Setting Up Your Atomos NINJA V with the GH5 THINGS TO KNOW
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- In this video I go over how setup the Atomos Ninja V monitor/external recorder with your Panasonic GH5 so that it's ready to record in 4K 60fps in 10 bit 422. I go over how to set up the camera, how to use the monitor and most importantly how to load your own LUTs onto the ninja v. All of the accessories found in this video will be linked below.
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Please see below notes for guidance on setting up 4k60p on GH5. Let me know if you are still having issues after following these steps
--> For the GH5 to have access to 60p video, the camera must be in NTSC (59.94 frequency) mode.
--> To get the GH5 to output a 10bit 4:2:2 4KUHD60p signal, you must do the following:
----- INTERNAL "Rec Quality" is set to 8Bit 4K 150M 60p. This setting can be found under the "Motion Picture Menu."
----- "HDMI Rec Output" is set to 10Bit 4:2:2. This setting can also be found under the "Motion Picture Menu."
If either of these settings is not correct, the camera will not output the best quality 10Bit 4:2:2 4kUHD at 60p over HDMI. This is noted at the bottom of page 68 in the GH5 manual.
Another important item needed is a high quality HDMI cable that is capable of handling the bandwidth of a 10Bit 4K60p signal. These cables are generally labeled "2.0a" (though not every 2.0a cable is made well enough to work properly).
--> 4Kp60 compatible HDMI Cables are available from Atomos at retail partners, under item numbers ATOM4K60C5, and ATOM4K60C6.
--> If the HDMI cable that is being used is not good enough, you will experience signal dropouts and breaks in your recording. An Intermittent connection between the camera and recorder when using a 4K60p output, is almost always caused by using a cable that can not handle the full signal bandwidth.
You can find a setup video for the GH5 and an Atomos recorder at the following link: @t (Setup begins at @)
Note: To keep all of the 10Bit data, you can record in the following codec formats:
Apple ProRes HQ
Apple ProRes 422
Apple ProRes LT
Avid DNxHR HQX (4k)
Avid DNxHD 220x (HD)
* (All other available Avid DNx Codecs are 8Bit, DNxHD 36 is a Proxy codec)
Hope this helps.
Val Days dude this is everything I’ve been looking for. Thank you!!
Yes sir, this helps a ton! Thank you for taking the time to share!
Val Days What are the setting for 4K 10bit 422 at 24fps?
MAN! You just saved my ass with the HDMI cable talk! I forgot to check I had a correct one after upgrading camera. THANK YOU!!
Thanks. This was the second or third time I watched this. I just realized I was baking in my vlog L footage.
Finally someone gets it. CZcams is just littered with nonstop schilling but what do we do with it and how do we use it? Thanks man.
Informative context, well done.
Helped me a lot . Explained very well.
Hi. Many thanks for this. You're a brave man... I see you've a cage for the camera but not for the Ninja, and no cable locks. Both my G9 and Ninja Flame are 'caged' AND both cages have cable locks to protect the HDMI ports from being distorted/destroyed by the cable being inadvertently ripped out. Smallrig do a range of great value cages and HDMI cable locks, and no, I'm not affiliated in any way!
Also, as the Flame is heavier, especially with dual batteries, I find the magic arm isn't strong enough to immobilise the Flame during movement due to too much leverage. I use a Uni-loc ballhead which I had lying around which is more robust and brings the monitor much closer to the camera which suits my style of handheld shooting. When on a tripod, then the magic arm will suffice.
Definitely consider cages and cable locks! Keep up the good work!
Too damn heavy
Dude! Don’t look at the screen. Look in to the lense! Great vid by the way
Hello. I'm two years late to the party however I shall use this to help set up my Ninja V.
I was scratching my little brain on how to stop the stuff on my GH5 screen being recorded on the Ninja V.
Cheers
It’s in this video about 2 minutes in
HDMI recording control is grayed out! Now what?
Thank you so much I just uploaded personnel luts, and me and my co-workers are really excited!
HDMI Recording Control is greyed out for me?
Clear, simple and on point. Best info on the ninja so far, thanks.
Thanks for the video . This is a great video for the beginners which I could not find with other CZcams videos . Good work 👌👌
good stuff sir
Thanks for this video really useful information :)
Great job thank you.
dude awesome video seriously needed this!
Did you ever end up making a 2nd video on this Ninja V? Like a field test and how some of the functions work during a shoot? That would be great if you have any shoots coming up. Keep up the great work
That one is definitely coming soon! I took it on a couple shoots already.
STUCK IN LOVE FILMS oh wow great. Mine recently came in. I have a Sandisk 500GB on it which should be plenty. But I’d love to see how you operate through the system and how you’d mount it to a rig and all that. I appreciate the first video you did on it thank you
hi there i want to get the atomos ninji v but for use as a monitor only. not recording from the atomos it self just record from my panasonic hc x1 camcorder, you only need batteries not ssd is that correct, cheaper monitors dont do ultra hd at 50fps at 8bit.
You can get a monitor only version of the Ninja V (for cheaper) from Atomos called the Shinobi.
www.atomos.com/shinobi
Hai..I
Great Video..Although I have a question. I am using a SONY AX100E Prosumer camcorder. It doesn't have any LOG profiles. Only standard profile is given to shoot the videos. So If I get Atmos Ninja V , can I shoot the Log profile, Although my video cam ( internally ) don't have one. And , can I use ProRes, eventhough my camera doesnt provide one. The same goes with 4K 60 as my camera only gives an option of 4K 25fps.
Help to understand , you say that the camera is able to write 60 frames 10 bit 4 K but at 5:33 you have chosen the option 8 bit
in my camera there are no opportunities to choose 60:8 bits : 4K frames
how do you solve this problem ?
I am going through the same puzzle. Have you figured it out elsewhere? I still couldn't find the option for the 4k 60 fps 10 bit (422) even after using the right settings.
@@gthm777 same here
Any luck yet?
@@livesongs82 Hi there, Yes I found something - Noticed that even tough the GH5 does not display the 60fps in 4K 10 bit explicitly on its menu options, it actually recording the 60 fps 10 bit 4k externally when the HDMI output option is chosen to record externally to 10 bit. This was so weird , but finally able to figure it out. GH5 should update this its upcoming firmware (it wasted a lot of time for me). Hope it helps !
@@gthm777 And when you have chosen 4k 60 10 bit ....was it showing also on Ninja v as 60 fps?
@@gthm777 - The GH5 cannot record 10-bit externally and internally at the same time. So its the HDMI output settings that feed the recorder with the proper 422 10BIT 60 FPS signal. Internally, the file is stored as a 422 8-bit as far as I have understood the settings.
I'm wondering why you mentioned that you can shoot 4k 10bit 60/p when you are at 5:41 you did't choose that function? Just something that caught my eye.
Hi, can you tell me if atomos shinobi 5" monitor works fine with canon eos m5 and m6. Thanks alot 🙂
When turn on you ninja do you hear a fan blowing? Not sure if minds have a problem thats why i ask
Thanks so much for such a great video! I found it very useful!
Please, can you help me? HDMI Recording Control is greyed out for me. what should I do? Thank you for your time and attention.
When you record with the Atomos does the GH5 also record too? So basically you get to two recordings of said clip?
It will dual record in 24p but not in 60p. and I believe you have to have your HDMI trigger enabled so when you push the shutter button on the camera, it triggers the record on the Atomos as well as the GH5. Hope this helps.
Thank you.
Cheers for the video i found it useful. Can anyone tell me how to get the recording beep to work after the Ninja V is connected? The beep disables and ive been finding it very useful for run/gun shoots. Especially when im shooting low, cant pivot the GH5 screen up because the HDMI cable is in the way and im recording to the SD cards so theres no "recording" symbol displayed on the ninja v. Thanks. Atomos just said, "Ask Panasonic." Still waiting.
Thanks for making this video! So useful! I'm about to buy the Ninja 5 and I didn't want to buy their expensive HDMI cable. But today i just read (from a seller on Ebay) that if we want to record ProRes RAW, we need the latest expensive cable from Atomos. Is that true or can we record in that mode with a cheaper HDMI 2.0a?
Very informative. Thanks for sharing. Subbed!
Well explained! You got a subscribe from me ;)
Hello! great vids! Do you happen to know how I can use the Ninja V with my gh5s just as monitor and not the recorder function?( I want to record internally on the gh5s) but use it as a montor, just like you would use a small HD5 or a vitrox monitor. Is there a way to use it also for playback your internal footage? I cant seem to find a way :/ Thanks
hey did we ever get a answer to this question I'm curious to know just purchased the ninja v.
@@unspknkraftproductions5206 if I remember well from their own website they didn't give me a good answer. It was a no go 😑
Surely you can just take the SSD out of the monitor to achieve this?
@@MARZACpro you can view, sure but playback footage doesn't work
@@luez2 I see now, thanks.
What cable do you use to power the ninja v on a dtap battery? (not the overpriced atomos option 😂)
I just can't find any information on what type of HDMI Ninja have. Mini HDMI, Micro, or A Type?
Oh, it's Full HDMI.
Does it always record to both the atomos and gh5 in the non 4k 60p modes? Any way to avoid that?
I set up my Ninja and GH-5 following your instructions. However I cannot get the GH-5 to autofocus once I connect the HDMI cable to the Ninja. Was wondering if I had a setting that was wrong or is it really not possible to use the GH-5's autofocus with the Ninja?
Why cant I have the record control turned on while in FHD 60fps 10bit? It only works with 4k but not with FHD for some reason. Do you know why?
i own atomos ninja v since it's released, and i have an issue with HDMI output. I can't output to terdak Ace 500 when i record on 4k and outputting HD ! does anyone knows?
Hey have awesome wedding videos on vimeo brother! so great! congrats! God bless you!
Do you have the link to the 4k 60fps HDMI (AFFORDABLE) cord? There is no link there?
Andrew Blakeley I’ve bought one from Best Buy that advertises a 4K UHD capability & I purchased one from Walmart that advertises the same. Both different cables that work excellently with no glitches or issues. I don’t think it matters what specific kind you get
My gh5 display shuts off when I plug the ninja v hdmi in .... any advice?
Samsung EVO would do the job with ProRes?
I have seen your wedding videos and I have found a lot of slow motion those seem more than 50/60 fps. So because I have GH5 and Ninja V too I wish know if is possible recording 120/180 fps directly with ninja V or is only possible using GH5.
Only possible on the gh5. Atomos won’t support GH5’s slow motion.
The Lut recorded image is exactly darker?
I'm sorry, but I couldn't get over the sniffing
Thank you for the helpful video. I can't seem to use both the ninja v and the gh5s flip out screen at the same time? Any help would be greatly appreciated please
Are you sending display settings out to the ninja V?
Hi I hope you can help. I am trying to set up my ninja v as in your video but HDMI RECORDING CONTROL is greyed out and am not sure how to change it. Any help is appreciated.
Is the atomos ninja V works with Gh4?
This Ninja V recorder doesn`t record cine 4k, right? Or it does meanwhile? Does the Ninja V have HDR?
If anyone here buys a dock, I would steer clear from the toaster-style ones. While they do work, you'll have to remove your ssd from whatever caddy is holding them. Other wise your drive just won't fit. Pretty annoying to remove screws from your caddy each time you need to transfer footage.
Does your footage also have grain when recording on ninja v or am I doing something wrong?
Are you shooting in Vlog? If so, you need to overexpose 1 or 2 stops to protect your shadows and reduce in post. :D
Exactly, I researched not enough and bought me the Atomos Ninja V today and then it started.... no HDMI cable, no SDD, no cage, no docking station. it`s tooooooo expensive and now I think why I didn´t just buy a cheap screen and the 4k video is anyway in my Sony and edit on my laptop.
Remember the prores 4k 60fps. I also bought a ninja v, todo expensive , but now my gh5 is almost a cinema camera just for 1000€(gh5)+900€(ninja v)+500€ sigma 18-35
You said 10bit but selected 8bit recording. Did I miss something? Also, you said to plugin one end into the output of you camera but you showed the ninja? The view and what you say don't match.
TheChosenOne that’s because there is no 10bit option in the actual record quality menu. You select 4K 60 and since you selected 10bit in the other settings menu it will record in 10bit.
Nice video but please look at camera when your recording
he's looking at the screen which is the camera
@Warren j i was just being petty with Jony's written details. Watching the monitor is technically watching "the camera" as Jony was complaining about :P
Hi man the for your help. I need to update my shogun 7 but I don't have any SSD yet, do you think I stil can update it?
Your description shows how to get 4k 60p 10bit pur of the camera, but after that, your ninja shows for input format 4k 23,98?
That was my mess up on filming this video, but I assure you that it works in person. Thanks for letting me know.
Nice Video. Is there a way to disable GH5 internal recording if a SD card is in the camera and i record lower than 422 10bit 4k60?
ArctisTheMonk Simply disable hdmi control on the camera and press the record button on just the recorder.
Thanks for you explanation, but i can't activate "HDMI Recoring control" an and the other section down it---
do you have an explanation for this?
I tried that over the weekend myself, so no sorry, I don't have an explanation for this. But, stay tuned...
vitaly-sokol.livejournal.com/609218.html
See this tutorial to help. I was having the same problem. czcams.com/video/1FRaBCkfihs/video.html
Can i use the ninja v on the sony a7s mark i??
hello, i have a question for you. i want to record c4k 24p from my gh5 to the ninja v. But i 've seen that the atomos don't show me the entire image on the screen. It seems the format is stuck un 4k uhd. I'm in 10.1 firmware. Did you notice that ?
the link to the HDMI cable isn't working, can you post a new one?
Hey sorry about that! For some reason there aren't a lot of links to the exact cord I got on amazon or anywhere online. I updated it, but there is a limited supply. If you go to walmart or target, the brand is called BlackWeb HDMI Cable. It's labeled as Premium Certified 4K HDR. It's super affordable and works with 4K up to 60fps. Sorry for the confusion. This is the link to it online though - amzn.to/2JTV51J
that cable DID NOT WORK for 4K 10BIT 422...IT DROPPED FRAMES
Some people have been having trouble with that cable. I'm going to update the link to a better cable. I found one that works best for cheap.
Use what Atomos recommend, which is their premium cable.
Hi need your help. When camera is set on 8bit it displays on ninja v but when I change to 10 bit it shows no signal.. Could this be that my hdmi cable is not compatible with 10bit?
Ooh, that might be the issue. Have you tried changing the resolution and frame rate? Mine did something similar at first but only when I was set to 4K 60fps.
Hi thanks for your reply. Yes I’ve tried everything so my only conclusion is the hdmi cable. Will def have to get the right one. Thanks for your video and taking the time to assist.
The Hive Entertainment most likely your hdmi cable.
Can you record 180fps ProRes from the GH5, or only 120fps? There see to be conflicting reports on that and I'd like to know before buying one.
You cannot from the Atomos, but you can from the GH5 internally. There is not a option to record above 60P on the Ninja V.
Thanks. I actually found out from Atomos that you can record up to 120fps in 1080p. and up to 60p in 4k. That's fine though. At least I can record internally and playback on the ninja to see what we have. Thanks! @@STUCKINLOVEFILMS
@@SheldonCharron you can't though do 120p either with the GH5 as it doesn't output a 120p signal, it outputs the selected overcrank base frame-rate.
@@TheTechnoPilot Thanks. I already purchased and have been using a Ninja Inferno so got it figured. I have to make sure to record slow motion beyond 60p on the card and not the recorder. There are a few times I forgot and used the recorder and then wondered where my slow motion went. I kind of wish that the Atomos would autodetect that and trigger not allow you to use the onscreen record button when in higher frame rates.
@@SheldonCharron yeah I wish the trigger would go reverse through to the GH5 as well!
As far as I am aware currently the HDMI spec is limited to 60Hz which is why none of the Atomos units can shoot high-frame rate that aren't SDI and while the new overclocked out of spec HDMI standard they are developing for RAW allows this, that wouldn't help with what you describe since the GH5 doesn't give any indication over HDMI that it's in a overcrank mode.
HELP PLEASE! im confused with the audio. i just got mine and I made same test recordings. when I checked footage in my computer there were no audio at all
Hey! Okay, before you go on any important shoot, so another test. Set up audio coming into the GH5, be sure to check the audio levels. Instead of plugging headphones into the GH5 to monitor the audio, definitely plug them into the recorder. Mess with the audio until you are getting a clean signal out of the Ninja headphone jack.
Audio Channels 1&2 are set to record Audio in from the Ninja V's Audio in jack. You need to change the settings in the Ninja V to set Audio tracks 1&2 to record camera. It isn't automatic.
J B figured it out, thanks for the reply
hey how long is the cheap 4k 60 capable hdmi cable you have on 3:23 ??
It's 1 and a half feet. But there are definitely cheap longer ones you can even find on amazon or walmart.
STUCK IN LOVE FILMS thanks a lot that size would be perfect for my setup
I was reading the reviews on that cable and saw this one-star review: "It didn't support my signal from my Panasonic GH5S to Atomos Shogun Inferno monitor in 4K 60p, like a 2.0 cable should. The signal would constantly drop out, causing an interruption in recording, and becoming unusable. It was no better than an older standard cable."
Can you touch focus on the monitor?
No. It can’t send that type of control back to a camera over hdmi
@@jonathanmasters2178 Thanks for the info.
for some reason I can't find an option to select 4k60p anybody no why?
DreamySauceKing look in the output section on the monitor
vid starts at 3:30
#Gameover
That fucking cord I swear went to 4 stores and nothings available except online
How can I record 4K 60fps on the atomos ninja v
are you using a gh5?
@@STUCKINLOVEFILMS I'm having this issue. please help
@@TDHowitt Hey man. if you go to the HDMI settings in the GH5 menu, and if you successfully get the settings switched to output a 4k 60p 10Bit signal, that should transfer to the Atomos. There shouldn't be anything to set on the Atomos in terms of frame rate.
@@STUCKINLOVEFILMS Yeah, I've done that but still doesn't work. I'm wondering if it might be be the HDMI. I've got a 2.0 HDMI cable
@@TDHowitt Can you describe what is happening instead of it working? Is the image not showing up on the monitor or is the frame rate on the atomos settings not saying UHD 60fps?
Is ninja V triggered by the GH5 when reccord button is pressed?
No, you actually have to press the record button on the ninja to record. Not the button on the GH5
After your reply I sent an email to ATOMOS support. I asked them if Panasonic GH5 can trigger Ninja V (Start/STOP) and they replied: "Yes, it does trigger". Can you test this?
@@jurijblazin7835 It does. You need to go into timecode on the GH5 to enable it. Then allow the Ninja V to be triggered by HDMI.
@@SWOOP1R Thanks for this test.
He just didn’t have it set up correctly. You can record on the ninja v by pressing the record button on the gh5
Great video. Now go blow your nose! That sniffing was brutal to listen to! Feel better.
Oh God please not another wedding photographer.
.".so you'll need this * clank*, you'll need this *clank* and this * clank* * clank*."
Seriously dood?? And this is a good example why I don't buy used stuff smh
you say 4k60 and your ninja say 23.98. I doubt you're even in 10 bit.
Sorry for the inconsistency in the image I was showing. I have definitely got 10bit 60p to work on the ninja through the gh5. I got to use it on a doc recently. I will let you know the results!
@@STUCKINLOVEFILMS I have it working now but this video is misleading. I would suggest making one that is accurate as to keep credibility. peace!
Boo! Not a hands-on review, but an op-ed piece, and not very coherent.