How to SET UP Your NINJA V the RIGHT WAY (Atomos Setup Guide)
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2020
- Setup guide and tutorial for the Atomos Ninja V. Clearing up confusion regarding Log/HDR processing and audio capture over HDMI. Plus general settings tips.
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For clarity, when I said "processed into HDR", I mean that it converts the way you monitor the image into the HDR monitoring configuration of your choosing. As far as I know there is no way to "bake in" the HDR conversion into the file, even though the manual says "record, preview and review using HDR". You can bake in LUTs, and I also think you can convert the signal coming out of the HDMI output port to be HDR, but it shouldn't affect your log recordings on the SSD--other than the fact that it removes options like "Legalize". Happy shooting! 🤓👍
Appreciate the follow-up.
I don't think using the Input->Camera Output->Log/HDR setting is WRONG, it can be pretty useful to monitor in Rec709 (or PQ if that's where you're headed), especially if you don't have a Log to Rec709 LUT (which was the case for the Z6 until not long ago). It doesn't modify the recorded file in any way (as far as I can tell) and at least with the current firmware, it records the same levels as turning Legalize off (as one would expect), ie full/data.
That said, I understand the click appeal of the ... firmer... wording 😜
If it removes the "legalize" option, it must be illegal!
😂😂😂
THE MATT 222 Matt! I was thinking same! 😆
Man your videos are great thanks for the info. can you provide a video soon different ways to load luts or get your footage off your Ninja V ? thanks again
Gerald! Can you make a video about Color Space / Gamma / HDR / Rec709 etc? I kinda understand these things but they're also kinda mysterious.
Maybe you could too :)
Did Gerald ever do this?
We need this
We still need this
We still need this…
Dude, this is the most comprehensive guide to my brand new ninja V and I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you. I found you through camera conspiracies and you two have now become my two favorite channels!
You are a legend! Every atomos user should salute you for the knowledge you are sharing! This video answered so many questions for so many users!
I consider myself a professional as I have been doing video production work for about 13 years now...but then I watch your videos and I feel like a beginner again! Love your knowledge....I come to your site often for tips and your opinions on a wide range of things. Bravo! I just got the Ninja V for my Z cam e2-m4. Would love for you to do a review of the Z cam e2 series
I would love to see much more Atomos Ninja V updates from you. The content is so damn good. Cheers from Copenhagen, Denmark.
Me: enjoy watching the whole video
Also me: don't actually own any Atomos monitor
I came to write a similar reply. Currently trying to justify the purchase of a $250ish monitor. 🤑
XD
Andrew Stewart I suppose it comes down to your current and future needs.. I bought a Ninja V for the monitoring and perhaps recording with current or future camera. If only for monitoring the Atomos Shinobi is an obvious choice. HDR monitoring in PQ for instance to see all of the image as you will likely grade is a great thing. I record prores on the Atomos Ninja V. I think it’s marginally better to grade log than my internal 150 mbps codec. I might be imagining it, but I think it’s true.. but if I pick up a new Nikon Z6 or other new camera system in 2020/2021 that may have ProResRaw... then my purchase will fully utilized. Currently? I think it’s better though with my computer/codec comparison my laptop handles both formats easily, but I know the external is capable of handling more grading in post.. even from an 8 bit source...... But yes.. for 8 bit source it’s biggest benefit is monitoring in HDR/PQ log etc. and perhaps the grading is better in post?
@@alexshdvideo Interesting; I was looking at the AndyCine A6 Plus which seems like a great value, but the Shinobi isn't that much more and presumably better in some way. As a hobbyist I definitely can't justify $650+ for the Ninja everyone loves. Thanks for the idea!
DUUUUUUDE!! Thank you Thank you! Definitely answered my question perfectly. Again, I've learned so much about my gear from your vids! You're awesome. Stay safe and healthy, we definitely need people like you out here :-)
Finally!, some good instruction on how to use my N5. I've had it for about 2yrs and just got very confused on how to use the thing. So thanks heaps.
Thank you G for your another awesome tutorial! I have officially upgraded my Ninja V and your videos are my first hand tips source for my workflow improvement. Many thanks 😊
Summed it all up in the last 20 seconds. Thanks again Gerald.
Enjoyed this immediate follow up video as well. 👊🏻😎
Thank you! Love that you display what you are doing on the Ninja at a nice pace so easy to follow! Your the best.
Happy New Year!
Now I have my Ninja V full operating! Great tips Gerald! Thanks
Hugely helpful clarification. Thanks so much Gerald. 💛😎🙏🏼
Just subscribed after watching the interview in B&H. I've viewed many of your posts but subscribed after seeing you in B&H because I liked that you opened up a little and I feel like I know you and understand your approach. My career started at IBM and I am a tech camera nerd too.
Another enlightening video for me as I own one of these. Thanks for all the hard work you do mate, greatly appreciated.
Thanks again for making it so easy for us to understand the settings on the Ninja V.
Thanks! this was such a great video!
Thanks, Gerald. As always, a very clear presentation of information.
Loved this video! I needed this some weeks ago but I'm greatful that I got it now. I'll feel much more confident on the next shoot 😁
Thanks so much for this. I'm really enjoying using this with my Fuji X-T3, there's a lot to learn in these unfamliar menus though and your breakdowns are invaluable. Keep up the great work... by far my favourite no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point, detailed guides out there!
Great job as always Jerald. Thanks for making this video for us amateurs.
Thanks for clarifying this.
Also, I love that table!
GREAT video, comprehensive, giving an overview on how to simplify things with the Ninja V. 👍🏻
Great tutorial thank you 🙏🏼
Hi Gerald, your videos are much appreciated.
Thank you. Great job Gerald!
Thank you! Was just wondering about the Log/HDR switch and found your video! Saved me so much time researching. Thank Thank you!
Solid gold content! Thanks Gerald!
You are my hero, you answered my questions in hours!!!!!!! Thank you.
Good one! Cleared up a lot of confusion about the audio settings.
Very helpful!!!! 🙏🏼
Thank you, super helpful!!!!
Thanks for the great video! This answered a lot of my questions.
You're changing my life Gerald...
Again, SUPER helpful. Much appreciated.
I actually wanted to know about this! Got here right when it posted!
Yet another solid, informative, and detailed video. I just got my Ninja V with the sale price leading up to the new firmware update for the Ninja and S1H.
Thanks for the video breakdown. My ninja v is shipping to me and these were questions I already had from an audio perspective. The menus look a little intimidating but this video helped bring down the anxiety a bit.
Thanks for doing this. Recently I was doing some live streaming and I was monkeying around with the Ninja, trying to take the audio from the audio mixer directly into the Ninja. Afterwards I was not getting my audio from the camera into the Ninja. This tutorial allowed me to reset the audio so it works again.
Just got my new Ninja v last Thursday. I was saving for a lens, when my church asked if I could film the Sunday service on Friday. I have an A7III, so I knew there was a thirty minute time limit, so... I didn’t get the lens that’s not shipping yet and bought the Ninja v instead. Falling in love with this thing. Friday’s recording ran this morning at 10:30 am AZ time. Without a hitch. I was originally nervous because when I tried playing the clip from the hard drive, I got a delay after 5 seconds of play. I set it to record prores lt. so after pulling into a fcpx project and compiling to mp4 it was completely in sync. So that was good. Why In this day and age that Atomos doesn’t have a forum on its site is beyond me. If I could have done a search, it would have put my brain at ease. Thanks for everything by the way. I don’t miss a one...;-)
The internet doesn't deserve you. You answered like 4 questions I had in this video.
Awesome channel!
Very helpful video. Most products we buy that are easy to use have huge booklets full of information we hardly read. But the lack of information manuals when buying Atomos products is just ridiculous.
Thanks a lot. Very helpful!
Gerald. I want to thank you for these vids and explaining in precise understandable language how to use this equipment. I have to learn how to shoot video for my day job and this has helped out in understanding why some one would need an atamos ninja 5. Especially since it can save us boatloads on memory costs. This with the battery kit and two 1tb ssd's is cheaper than buying memory cards totaling 2 TB. With that knowledge and the knowledge you've presented here i can convince my boss to buy one of these puppies lol. Thanks again sir.
A clear explanation of a crazy confusing situation, thanks. Reminds me of they story I heard when I worked at Lockheed that the printed proposal/specification for th C5 aircraft would completely fill the hold of the C130 (it's smaller cousin). Tech is complicated, and only Apple ties to make it simple.
I've recently bought a Ninja V+ and it works with my Sony A-Mount A99II. Recorded a friend's 3hr gig (4 Rock bands) and the record quality is perfect, had no worries about the outdated 30min recording time of the camera. So far I'm loving it
thank you Gerald. Great vid as always, this is invaluable info!
You’re the best dude! Seriously, the best at what you do!
really good explanations
love your videos, thank you
Thank you!! I kept wondering why my Ninja V was drifting out of synch by two frames with my Sony A7RIV. You explain my problem and gave me the fix -THANK YOU!
You are the man! I went to the garage to find where I did throw my ninja v because it was really so bad with log files, you explained it better than the Atomos's CEO on his video, I was getting a 709 file out of the Ninja and I didn't understand why.... Yes because we have been told to toggle that freaki*** HDR/Log button and select camera brand and gamma bla bla bla but at the end no more log flexibility in post at all! Yes because we were getting a 709 signal instead, I can't believe that! Many thanks, greeting from France and you all stay safe by staying home
Well helpful thank you 👍🏼
What a legend!
Hey brother! You did save my new Ninja V a return to B&H Photo. I don't care much about anything but record a while longer and improve the audio by not routing the mics through the camera, which in itself is a vast improvement and worth the Ninja V price. Thank you, I will follow you now, indeed!👍👍
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
This was so helpful.. New Ninja user. Subbed. Thank you. Audio issue solved.
Extremely useful thank you
I saw this video so many times and you so good that sometime i thought what would be if you not making these great videos
Love your channel bro
love your into jingle.... watched a few of your videos and got it stuck in my head lol.
Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏🏻
thanks you was very helpful with the mic settings Im new to this
Thanks heaps for this! Clarified some things for me 😃
love this guy.. smart and helpfull!
Luv it....tnx...helpfull always
This was awesome thank yoy
Thank You...
what an intense thumbnail 😂 you scared me right into clicking on it...
This was a huge help.
Not that ill ever use the hdr feature but just incase i get inspired too could you do another video on how to use it and what you would use this feature for....?
Love your content so usefull
Thank you..
I was literally looking for this exact video this morning 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Damn, this is absolute perfect Timing! I actually used my Ninja V for the first time today, but got something about the SLog 2 recording wrong. (Colors look weird in post)
Gonna try new settings out soon, thank you!
Thanks,
I'm a little late to the Ninja Game as I been using other branded monitors, but this is great as I will be purchasing a Ninja V for the firs time. Thanks for the info...
great stuff..
Thanks
Excellent video thank you. First topic was exactly what I was looking for! Was shooting in VLog recently and wasn't sure if that should be on or off. I was advised to put it on by the editor. Ill keep it off for myself though in the future. Cheers!
After seeing the price of the CFexpress Type A Memory Card for the Sony a7sIII(which I am hoping to pickup I instantly thought about an exterior recorder that will last a lot long than a card. I started looking around and narrowed down to the NINJA V but, I had no idea if that was going to work together with the Sony and how to operate it. My next move was to type " NINJA V Gerald Undone" in Google and there you were with more info that I could hoped fr anywhere on the net. Thanks Gerald, truly appreciate your time and efforts creating this video. Cheers Al Squamish, BC
Awesome! Please make a video on IRE sort of cheat sheet-ish. Thank you.
brilliant....
Danke!
Thank you! It seems I got lost with the HDR/Log toggle and assumed I needed it turned on so the Ninja could properly interpret the signal. Now I can hopefully use my monitoring LUTs with some semblance of confidence while shooting log. Thanks again!
This is some next level info only a pro using this every day would figure out, so thank you! You mention recording a PlayStation - that's actually one of the use cases on the official Atomos website LOL. I picked up a Ninja V yesterday for just over US$500, they are on special for lock down / Atomos 10 year anniversary celebrations. (It makes me wonder if they have a new 5" recorder/monitor coming soon.....)
¡Gracias!
Kinda over my head, but very interesting and great info, thanks.
Bravo. It's great to have a basic overview to direct our clients to. You just saved us some work, thanks!
Interesting, I'll have to do some testing now, though I'm already configured with the PQ monitoring and my FCPX effects preset that it's just easy now.
Would love to see a Sony Raw video with Atomos Shogun Inferno/7 and any of the compatible Sony SDI raw cams, FS700r/FS5/FS7/
The audio point at 10:00 regarding the delay is probably connected to the “live” vs. “lip sync” setting of the sony cameras as that changes the synchronization of the audio that comes out of the hdmi port
Your videos are very polished so hats off. A few comments about the settings as I have recently got the Ninja V and had to go an build fixes for all the bugs it has. First your Atomos range fix is not a good idea to monitor with that. The Ninja works fine and so do the exposure tools (except zebras that are off in all modes). The range fix is only necessary in FCP and must be the first effect applied or the whole editing is compromised. The legal option is not good as it flattens the signal also for your monitoring LUTs which may already perform a legal range conversion. So actually with the Panasonic it is more effective to activate the standard V709 in monitoring so that the false colour and other tools work correctly. Applying this LUT is also essential in HDR or ProRes RAW because AtomHDR just scales the display brightness, the display itself is just a plain rec709 gamut 10 bits screen with 10.5 stops vs the 9.97 of a rec709 editing monitor so nothing special. When you try and monitor log in PQ because the monitor lacks the dynamic range and wants to scale it pushes the middle grey really low and the display becomes dim which is exactly the opposite of what you want when you are shooting a landscape scene that has a lot of DR. So AtomosHDR is best skipped altogether and so is the legalise option as long as you use resolve or your LUT as step 1 of your edit. As you said the best option is to leave the monitor in rec709 if you are shooting log or rec709 and adjust the legal levels in your camera. For cameras that output HLG obviously set it like that and you will that the screen is bright because in that case the camera puts middle grey where it needs to be and also adjusts the white point
Yes!
I have no idea what you're doing or talking about but I'm sure I'll re-watch the video again once my Ninja arrives.
I’m Gerald Undone and I see videos first, because I see everything first.
I did find a difference when importing clips into Final Cut, depending what settings I dial on the Atomos. With matching setting to my Sony A6600, HLG3 and BT2020, the clips correctly show as BT 2020 in the Inspector. Otherwise they show as 1-1-1... and they do look different in the timeline depending what settings I choose in the Camera Output page in the Ninja.
Part of the problem with reviewing tech is people constantly getting angry in the comments. I'm going to say in the beginning of all my videos, look I'm not Gerald undone. Fantastic channel and video. You are a mench
finding your channel has been one of the best things for me on youtube, your delivery is understandable for a non techy like me, yet packed with so much useful info, i end up going down the rabbit hole for deeper understanding. im really getting a lot out of your content, thanks a ton! please don't stop! haha... im running an a7iii with the ninja v, until i can really grasp all the nuances that arise with the camera and certain accessories, I've opted to shoot XAVC S HD. one thing i have noticed is that while in the RECORD options of the ninja v menu, my RECORD FORMAT states im shooting at HDp59.94 although the a7iii is set to 24p50. while experimenting, i noticed that if i switch the a7iii to XAVC S 4K the ninja v recognizes the change in format and its represented in the menu. is this normal? i tried searching for content related to this, if i overlooked it i apologize. your input would be highly valued. thanks again!
i also wanted to mention that the INPUT menu also states that the signal from the HDMI input is HD59.94 while the a7iii is set to 24p50. so its consistent across the ninja v that the incoming signal is recognized as 60p.