LUMIX GH5 + Atomos Ninja V // With Atomos Ninja V, the GH5 is one step closer to a cinema camera.
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Here's why I went with the Atomos Ninja V paired with the Lumix GH5 in 2020, even with the Canon R5 and Sony A7Siii being released. I consistently get great images from the GH5 with the internal recording but paired with the Atomos Ninja V, I can shoot ProRES 4K60 in 10bit 422.
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Not only is the Atomos Ninja V a great monitor for the GH5, it allows you to record in ProRES which makes editing seamless. I know I'm late to the game when it comes to the Atomos Ninja V paired with the GH5 but here's why I chose this cinema setup over the new Canon R5 and Sony A7Siii.
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ninja FIVE, brah, FIVE (great video btw)
but v rolls off the tongue better. 😂
Dude! We dig your videos. Your clarity and tones are off the charts. Kudos!
I appreciate that!
GH5 user and i love this channel! Keep up the awesome work mate, much appreciated! :)
thanks so much!
Great combo! I just got mine a month ago. It is a great monitor for the price and it is probably the best out there. It has so many features to help you record. It is just insane when you pair them together! Great video!
Absolutely! i've just used the monitor part several times now and the recording a couple times but i'm really liking the results i'm getting
Caleb you are the best at making me love the gear I already have! Huge fan of this setup!!
seriously this is one of the greatest comments i could receive! comments like this keep me motivated! thank you!
Caleb Hoover anytime! Looking forwards to your next vid 👏👏
WOOP WOOP! Best informative GH5 videos on CZcams!!!!!!
dig it bro!
Just bought my gh5 as my A camera to back up my G7. Was gonna get the A73 but needed the 10bite, thanks for the videos great work🔥
awesome! enjoy!
Loved the video! about to purchase our Atomos Ninja V
awesome! i think you'll really like it!
We almost jumped ship as well. Actually pre-ordered the R6, but then backed out until they get things figured out a bit more with firmware updates. But, the main reason I think we stayed with the GH5 was because of you. Changing our color profile to natural almost eliminated 100% of our skintone issues and made grading a cinch. And exposing at 65% for skintones using zebra stripes has really improved our picture quality. It feels like we have a whole new camera!
this is great! i'm glad these videos have helped! yes i really do love the NAT profile but i've noticed with this ninja v i might actually try some v-log more. it'll be interesting. but NAT will always be my go to profile.
@@CalebHoover If you ever have time I would love to see the Ninja V-log graded vs straight out of camera v-log graded.
cool! i'll have to try that out!
GH5 + Ninja V is a Beast of a combo, nice!
🙌
Solid bro! Your killing it. Ninja V is a great tool....I don’t have one yet. Who knows I might be even later to the game??? Keep it up dude!
thanks man! it’s been fun having this ninja v so far. i finally just made the purchase! 😂 so far worth it
Welcome to the Ninja V club. The ProRes workflow is my favourite feature, it saves me upgrading my old MacBook Pro or constantly transcoding files. I would like to see Atomos give the Ninja V GH5 touch control of key camera operations like they did for Z Cam when their E2 camera systems were recently given ProRes Raw capabilities with the Ninja V!🙏🏾
Absolutely! i'd be all for this! some of that raw footage with the z cams looks amazing!
I've been sticking with the GH5 (~2Yrs)/Metabones/NinjaV(~1Yr). I do a lot of non-profit pro bono stuff. I can't see watering myself down with a better camera that won't be able to actually do better for me than what I have. I have a hard enough time mixing my Canon 6D and GH5. I probably would do well to get another GH5 and just use the 6D for photos. I'm sure I won't be upgrading for at least a year. I'm still going to dream about BMPCC's, A7SIII and GH6. Glad I found your channel!
thanks for hanging out over here on the channel! much appreciated! not a bad idea for using the 6D just for photos. i bought a 6D from a friend and had it for about a year and then sold it cuz i wasn't using it for video and i'm not a photographer but the full frame was nice.
Just got my Gh5, I was wondering can you use the Gh5 in aninorphic mode at 6k and still shoot in prores with the atomos ninja or can you only shoot up to 60fps at 4K on the atomos while the Gh5 is in anamorphic mode?
Hi Caleb, I wanted to ask if the Lens IS will work with the Atomos Ninja V+ setup?
Caleb, hope all is well. Just did my first shoot with my Ninja V +, I had to abandoned using the Ninja and went straight with the GH5. I was getting a reddish tint with the Ninja V while the GH5 was clear. Not sure why, had none of the assisted focus software on. Any idea?
Caleb, I really need some insight on the Atomos Ninja V. Is it Only
4K from GH5 to 4K Atomos
Or
Since it’s a HDMI transfer can you go GH5 1080 to 4K Atomos?
Please anyone.
Thanks! I have the GH5 and was thinking of getting rid of it. Menus are too complex and hidden. But now i may get the Ninja for it. Subbed.
thanks for the sub!
Lighting looks great bro. I have the atomos ninja v as well, I definitely don't use it often enough
thanks! can't go wrong with aperture lights 🙌 i've been really happy with the ninja v results so far and i should have just gotten it a long time ago 🤷♂️
Hey Caleb,
I might be very late on this gh5 ninja v Thing though I finally bought one. But one Thing that grabbed my attention and makes me reconsidering this purchase. Is it Just me or does this combo have a non neglectable input lag (especially in 24p) of approximately 4-8 frames? Feels so sluggish even to pull Focus with that lag.
Would be nice to hear your experience about that lag.
Greeting from germany
great video dude, as a fellow GH5 shooter I might have to go out a pick up the atomos
awesome to meet another gh5 shooter!
Good job Caleb! how many minutes can you record with 1TB SSD in 10 bit 4.2.2 4K60 in ProRes light?
probably a silly question Caleb (and friends), forgiveness in advance. Here's my currently dilemma: I've been shooting V-log l on the GH5 but using longgop (I know I'm not getting the best out of it) so since the last two weeks, I've purchased a v90 card and playing around with the real potential of V-log for the gh5. But soon, as I am saving, I'll be going for this Ninja V and recording ProRes so that my laptop isn't "fanning" every 5 mins.
so the question is, is it better for me to keep this super expensive v90 card or should I wait for the Ninja V and your setup with the Samsung external recorder and "capture" vlog 400mbps all-i that way? (I guess a pre-question to that is, is the ninja v capable of recording vlog all i 400mbps )
thanks Caleb
Hello, Great comments for Atomos Ninja V and GH5. I have a Camera Panasonic GH5 and use a monitor Lilliput A7s but there is a lot of delay in audio and video. I am thinking about buying a Ninja V and want to know that there is delay in audio and video in this monitor. I record MP4 (LPCM), full HD, 28 M, in 50 pfs and use 8bits. Thanks for the answer.
The 10 bit 4.22 is something i want for my old trusty gh5 i shoot everything in 4k 50 open gate and it really is a pain in the ass its just 8 bit. The pro res output is useless for me as i am a davinci resolve user. Can the blackmagic video assist 10 bit 4.22 and braw with the gh5?
wise move, I'm using the Ninja V for over a year and it helped me a ton. I still never got the Sigma 18-35, cause I got my GH5 with the 12-35 ll, but I keep thinking about the Sigma, don't know why! Have fun and keep creating!
yeah the sigma is great but i've done a ton of work on the 12-35 and i get some great results. just doesn't have the same depth of field.
@@CalebHoover jup that juicy depth of field! Btw, u have to try these rich prores 422 files in davinci resolve, it edits and grades so well.
@@manuelauer sounds great bro!
First of all, great content! Very useful and helpful! So right now I'm just using my phone as a monitor and as a next upgrade I'm considering an actual externalmonitor, but I also want to be able to do 4K60p in 10bit. That way I can have some nice slow motion to match the 4K24p in 10bit. That being said, I think my best bet would indeed be the Atomos Ninja V.
yeah i would agree that for the price it would be the best option as well
Hi, Caleb is it nesasary to buy vlog to be able to record to Ninja V prores and etc..?Thank's
Awesome content, keeps me tuned into your channel! I was wondering if there's a way to personally fix a loose HDMI port on my GH5? I also use an external recorder and now I can't, due to my port problem..any advice?
bummer! i'm not sure how to fix that other than a repair shop or send it into panny
I have the Sony A73 and A7r2 for most of my professional and personal projects the ninja v has unlocked much better quality even in 8 bit. I think its a future proof investment. Looking forward to the A74
good word! i agree with the future proofing
I’ve had the gh5 for a year now and I was always doubtful about using v-log because of the codecs but I just got the atomos v and even shooting in prores LT gives me so much courage to use v-log on jobs now knowing that I can get the best of colors out of it. And also that HDR on the atomos is amazing!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Absolutely agree! i do feel like i have more freedom with v-log with the ninja v. way more confident with it!
@@CalebHoover i actually got the atomos ninja v because i wanted to get the Zcam E2-M4 but upon trying it with the gh5 i now feel like the E2-M4 is not worth the upgrade. same m43 sensor except that it can do 4k 120p. and there's not much difference in the dynamic range
interesting! i've been interested in those z cams. my buddy shoots on the z cam with the ninja 5 and shoots prores raw and the images look amazing. so having a raw option intrigues me
Hi i watching you always thank for videos can i ask can i record both side in camera and ninja v
Just picked one up a couple weeks ago and it seems the colors are very warm. The colors don’t seem to match the output from the other hdmi out from the ninja
so far i’ve noticed that if i custom white balance in v-log i seem to get pretty good results. but it definitely feels warmer in NAT and Cine-D
I've been doing hybrid shooting for slightly over a year now, and I'm want to get serious about videos now. I'm thinking of picking up either a G9 or GH5 with the Ninja V. I quite like shooting stills too, nothing crazy like sports or wildlife.
I notice the G9 is slightly cheaper than the GH5, is the All-i codec really important? Since most of the important assist features are available on the Ninja V, is there a point in me getting the GH5 over the G9? Both are 10 bit 422 as of recent updates. The only thing the G9 would be lacking is All-i.
@IM HO I see! Thanks for the tips! Yeah I only do corporate videos, and indoor gym videos for now, so I don't think I will use the full potential of all-i.
I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a deal I saw last week, which is now sadly sold. A used G9+ 10-25 used was going for only $1800. Arghhhh
yeah for social media stuff i don't think you'll need to go over board with All-i. especially if you want to take stills, the g9 would probably be the better option anyway. the g9 is a great camera.
Awesome combo, going to have to try that out. Subbed from a fellow GH5 fanboy
Awesome! Thank you!
@@CalebHoover hey boss could you do me a favor (unless you know already). I'm thinking about grabbing the Ninja V, mainly because having a 1TB SSD would be nice to have. Can you record the All-i 400mb/s codec onto the card? Or can you only record ProRes and DnXHQ? I could just go with the DnX but I really like the All-i (I've been shooting with it alot more) but the files are huge. The main reason I want the Ninja is to record in that codec externally. Can you test that (or do you know if you can?) Thanks!
@@avsvisual6786 i can double check but i think the external is prores or dnx primarily.
@@CalebHoover awesome thanks man. I have a feeling that's what it is, but I just want to make sure before I drop that coin lol
Yo Caleb loving the channel dude! I've been sessioning your videos as GH5 and BMPCC4K user. Can I ask what backdrop you are using for your talking heads shots? It looks great. Keep up the quality MFT content!
thanks! it was my basement concrete wall but i've been finishing my basement so i don't have that anymore 😂
can i also use a recorder wich is capable of more than 10 bit ? is there a recorder for 12 oder 16 bit even ?
not totally sure about some of that. i'm sure there is but you'd probably be paying a price for that 🤷♂️
can you dual record gh5 SD card and atomos ninja?
Hello Caleb and big credit for the review, ita was very helpfull! I have just bought Ninja V and paired it with my GH5/GH5s as well , it workd perfect! I have a question, is it possible to record slow mo more than 5-60 frames ( 100-120 fps ) withthe Ninja V ? thank you .
i don't think it is. i think you need to rely on the VFR on the gh5.
@@CalebHoover ok thank you for ur reply ‘
Yeah this is a great option!
it's been fun using!
Great vid bro great combo as well I use my ninja with the GH4 but on another note the Atomos is the most versatile piece of tech I come across in a long time I don't just use it on my camera as it is a great game/video capture card as well.
totally agree!
hi caleb ..., i'm using ninja v , but i dont know when i use after 20 mnt ninja so hot and i cant put my finger in plate ninja bc hot , am i got bad copy device ? ,
i've noticed it gets hot yes. maybe i haven't had it running for long periods but i have not noticed it gets too hot to touch
Hey Caleb, I’ve been leaning heavily towards picking a Ninja up for my GH5, only problem is I’ve heard too many horror stories about lost footage. Do you have any tips to avoid that? Thank you!
i don't have my own horror stories but i'm not exactly sure what would be causing that or how to fix it. maybe if you format the drive everytime it would help 🤷♂️
@@CalebHoover how do you format it? How do I transfer it to my computer?
Is there any difference quality using gh4 with ninja v vs gh5 with ninja v ?
good question. actually never used the ninja on the gh4
Dang man the ninja seems to be like a great upgrade to a camera
yeah totally is a great addition to the lineup.
Atomos Pro Res 4K/10-bit recording to has extended the life of the GH5 by another five years. BTW, the BMPCC 4K shoots footage sharp enough for use as a B-cam to the GH5, and the colors match up quite well with Leeming Luts.
yeah i've seen some bmpcc 4k footage next to the gh5 and you're right, they do match up really well
I have been tempted for some time to get the Ninja V for my GH5S. Cinema 4k 4:2:2 10bit 60fps is tempting.
i really think it's a great addition. i've been really happy so far
Literally did the exact same thing. Had the money for an a7siii or r5 upgrade... got a ninja v instead. Love prores, love the external monitor, and brightness. 4K 60 422. Honestly the gh5 is just an MFT version of the R6... with better codecs. Will get a gh6 if it comes though. But the atomos has made my gh5 superb 👌🏾
Name is pronounced “I Am Legend” by the way 😂
awesome dood! yeah i get great results with the gh5 and now with prores its feels new
ABSOLUTELY! I've been playing around with using All-i more and love it. I'm copping the GH6 immediately, but if they don't announce it this year then I'm going to get the GH5s for a B camera + Ninja V and call it good for a while. It's amazing how well this camera holds up being 3 years old (and still doesn't overheat ; ) ) I'm hoping that the long wait for the GH6 will be worth it, maybe they are making the specs solid enough to stand out for the next 5+ years? I'm thinking it will be at least 6k 16:9 (I know no one talks about it, but the GH5 shoots 6k, it's just 3:2), I bet you it'll have RAW, recording over USB type C (hopefully), and idk what else, but that's my wish list lol
@@avsvisual6786 these things would be great for the gh6! i'm hoping! 🤞
I've been doing hybrid shooting for slightly over a year now, and I'm want to get serious about videos now. I'm thinking of picking up either a G9 or GH5 with the Ninja V. I quite like shooting stills too, nothing crazy like sports or wildlife.
I notice the G9 is slightly cheaper than the GH5, is the All-i codec really important? Since most of the important assist features are available on the Ninja V, is there a point in me getting the GH5 over the G9? Both are 10 bit 422 as of recent updates. The only thing the G9 would be lacking is All-i.
@@professionalpotato4764 if you’re getting a Ninja, ALL-I won’t matter as the Ninja V will record Prores. Essentially the same, if not better, than ALL-I Codec.
I heard the recorder can only go up to 60pfs so if you want to do 120fps it won't work or record? I use a GH5s in VFR obviously.
yeah the 120fps would need to be in camera
Caleb Hoover can you set it so the VFR slow-motion goes to the internal SD. Then regular 4K 60fps is SSD ninja?
@@StellerJayFilms not sure off the top of my head. i might need to play around with it a bit more.
With the ninja you can shot in v-log and prores?
totally!
can you change the lut intensity/strength with the atomos ninja v ?
i haven't used the luts on it yet but i hope to get a review up testing some of that stuff out more soon.
Same setup. Great pair. I can easily see the progression with my skills. No need to get new SD-cards. I can edit straight from SSD. I think I will get the SDI module some day?
awesome! yes, I'm loving this workflow!
Which ninja would you recommend for the gh5s
Atomos Ninja V all the way
Congrats on ninja v .
🙌 thank you!
Does the gh5 do 4k 60 hlg external
i never shoot hlg but as far as i know you can
I think Panasonic will release the Gh6 and the Gh6s at the same time. Being a Panasonic user for a few years, i believe it’s worth the wait for the new release. Until then, let’s continue to create awesome content using our Gh5/Gh5s! That being said, Caleb, thanks for the amazing content man, keep it up! 🙌👌
i appreciate it! yes! i'm still loving the gh5 but i am interested in what lumix will do with a possible gh6
Caleb Hoover 🙌
just sell the GH5, and get the GH6 when it comes out. Or heck be a ballet and get the GH6 and keep the GH5 as a backup B roll camera as its a workhorse
yeah i plan on holding on to the gh5 no matter what
So, is it V as in FIVE or is it VEE? I guess both makes sense.
🤷♂️ i’ve called it both but for this video i used Vee
Never used the Atomos Ninja V good to see you having it now, we hope to have an in-depth review soon, waiting.
yeah i'll definitely be putting it to use and getting some vids out there with it.
Hey Caleb love the combo. I too Rock the GH5 & Ninja v combo. But next year I plan to add the Zcam E2 M4 and plan to record ProRes HQ on the z cam E2 M4 internally and ProRes HQ on the GH5 /Ninja V . So I can keep both cameras on ProRes and the Z cam can be my low light camera without dual iso. The gh5 has been a solid and reliable work horse so am happy to keep it as my A cam . I love the micro four thirds and have a great set of lenses so don't plant jump ship.
those z cams look amazing. my buddy dan ludeman from ludeman productions uses the z cam and shoots prores raw and gets incredible footage.
@@CalebHoover yep I also follow Dan's channel and he is one reason why i am getting the Zcam .the colours are amazing. I plan to match the z cam and the GH5. I can't bear to sell it as the gh5/ Ninja V combo gives such good footage I ha e gotten stick with it regardless what happens with the Gh6. Love your channel dude you're the place to go and get GH5 content. Thank you .
@@MyJeanf awesome! love dan's stuff! we live in the same city. thanks for the kind words!
It’s a time for GH6 :D
agree!
I'm an Atomos fan boy. I bought two of the original Ninja Ones many years ago. I have a Ninja V and there is something I don't like, powering it. It has only one battery slot, although one giant NPF will power the unit for 3 hours, it not an elegant solution. With a large NPF battery it throws the balance of the camera off so it needs to be on a tripod. I am working on a solution where I have a dummy battery in the Ninja and a large USB power bank in my pocket.
yeah that's the thing that gets me too. one slot, drains it but too heavy with a bigger battery. you're right on.
Lol do you have the ability to do the 2:1 zoom while in 4k60? On my unit I can only do a 1:1 zoom
i'll check it out to see!
Figure anything out I have some ideas I need to put in front of the camera
hopefully this week i can try it out.
Just bought a second hand one for my GH5 and BMPCC4K
nice!
I have the GH5 & GH5s and x2 Ninja V's. Unfortunately I have moved to europe with just my GH5. Missing my GH5s and Ninja V's big time! I record PRO-RES 422 HQ for filmmaking only. So I will be filming back to memory cards again, which I don't really like compared to SSD's.
it's so nice recording on the ssd you're right. at least you have a gh5 with you!!
That is so true Caleb!
Hi Caleb, I share your love for the GH5, like you I think it's a great camera, still kicking it in 2020. My only problem is unlike you I can't really use my GH5. I concentrate on the Producer/Director role and I have a cameraman who I direct. I would love to be able to use my GH5 but I have a small mental block that prevents me from doing so. I am trying hard to overcome it, Maybe you can teach me?
just shoot some short home movie films or go on a hike and film or something along those lines. just little things maybe for now
@@CalebHoover Hi Caleb, thanks for responding. I Will try, keep you informed. Can you do something on the accessaries you have, not the gear?
What a great idea! With so much time and money invest in the GH5, I was really conflicted over "upgrading". This will extend my investment in skills and equipment by a couple of years. Thanks for this video!!
glad it was helpful! i'm getting such great results with the gh5, i'm still loving it and now with the ninja v it feels like a new camera
I started researching the Ninja V and so far the only think discouraging I've heard is the fan is noisy. Are you having issues with fan noise?
yes the fan is definitely noisy. but if you can have audio separate from the monitor, you'd be fine.
Is it Ninja ‘V’ or Ninja 5? I’m thinking 5
😂 v slips off the tongue easier for me
I have a g9 there are no good comparisons with image quality with the gh5
i have a g9 and gh5 comparison coming out in a couple weeks
@@CalebHoover yesss I will def be watching that man
@@CalebHoover Is it?
I don’t like the fan within the Atomos Ninja V, I find that it disrupts my audio
The features of the monitor are absolutely brilliant though
yeah that's the thing, the fan is super loud. almost louder than the aperture 120d light 😂 i'm usually doing audio separate but man it's a loud fan!
Apparently a firmware update solved/helped that issue?
Unfortunately not mine
Gh6 is the key
that'd be nice
great video caleb! don't waste your money on a a7siii guys. buy a gh5, viltrox adapter, sigma 18-35 Art, nifty 50, ninja v and then learn how to color grade! that's it! ;)
great call on this!
@@CalebHoover thanks 😎
The Ninja V is a great piece of kit but, be aware, by the time you've purchased all the extra bit and pieces, not included with it but needed to use it effectively, you will need to almost double your budget !
Not really
you have a lot of hdmi delay if you see
yeah that's the bad thing about monitors
Yes i Agree The GH5 Is Still a Good Camera i Was Going To Buy The Canon R5 But Canon is Playing To Many Games With People Saying That They Possibly Crippled The Camera On Purpose So It Has a Overheating Timer So They Would Not Cannibalizing Their Cinema Line Of Cameras With The Camera Being $4000 Thats Bull Crap
i hear ya! i really think, unless you're a photographer as well, but getting a canon cinema line camera for video is the way to go. i'm not interested in their mirrorless. i don't do photography either tho
I am late to the NINJA V, technology moves so fast hard to keep up and I am not blessed with riches haha!
it's a nice addition but totally not necessary if you know what i mean
GH5 > A7SIII. If you look at price, weight, resolution, bit depth, IBIS and features i still think the GH5 still stands strong in 2020
totally agree!
I think the GH5 is fine. Folks want cinematic looks, but they don't want to do the cinematic work that comes with a cinematic cam. They want they non existing perfect do it all cam. I'll get the gh5 and rig it out. Plus it looks better and my hands are huge. *cue hulk voice* Puny sony 😪
😂 yeah the GH5 is great for what I need at this point
The V is a Roman 5. So it’s a Ninja 5 not Ninja Veeee 😁
u mad bro
Gh5 non lavora con il focus peaking di Atomos V! È un vero disastro. SONO DELUSO.