Field Monitors for Filming with the GH5 (and other Mirrorless Cameras)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 08. 2024
- There are many field monitors available for filming with the Panasonic GH5 or other mirrorless cameras. In this video, I explore a few of my favourites and talk about what to look for in a field monitor.
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Gear in this video:
Feelworld Master MA5 amzn.to/2UxmvNT
SmallHD Focus amzn.to/2HwAcch
Atomos Ninja V amzn.to/2UBZMjM
Smallrig Monitor Mount with Nato Clamp amzn.to/2TEc92o
Camera Gear:
Panasonic GH5 amzn.to/2UDirvp
Panasonic G85 amzn.to/2uaXBI8
Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8 amzn.to/2UExcOI
Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 amzn.to/2T3rm7P
Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 amzn.to/2TBN73H
Metabones Speedbooster M43 to EF Mount amzn.to/2TDKNsY
Atomos Ninja V amzn.to/2UBZMjM
Feelworld Master MA5 Field Monitor amzn.to/2UxmvNT
DJI Ronin-S Gimbal amzn.to/2u5PGMf
Lighting Gear:
Aputure 120d amzn.to/2O6CG2b
Aputure HR672s amzn.to/2TyJhIG
Audio Gear:
Sennheiser MKE 600 amzn.to/2u8eljB
Sennheiser EW G4 w/ ME2-II amzn.to/2CkfKrL
Rode Videomicro amzn.to/2O4oJ4V
Tascam DR-60D amzn.to/2UAQg0b
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Ooooo yes...I like this a lot! Thank you Scott. I got a GH5 the other month and I absolutely love it :) so happy. A field monitor is on my list for sure. Keep up the good work man
You're welcome, glad it was helpful to you. Appreciate you watching!
great info, thx for figureing out all the facts
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching.
Great vid! Just purchased the GH5s and am building up my rig. Have been looking into a monitor and seems like the Feelworld Ma5 might be just the right one for my needs!
Awesome, it's a great starting place and will likely make a big difference in your footage.
Great video. Helpfull. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
Thank you it was very good and helpful.
Cheers, thanks for watching!
I got the Feelworld for Christmas so it's nice to know it has some positives. I can live with the negatives for now at my current level. I agree that the middle one feels a little "should i just save up".
That Ninja5 seems to be the pups nuts for a full on client situation, although i'm very surprised about the lack of a dc out.
The Feelworld is definitely a solid piece of equipment and a big step up from any camera screen.
Good info. Thanks
Cheers, thanks for watching!
5:12 Feelworld F6 Plus ($170-225) offers the features you mentioned were lacking against the SmallHD ($600): touch screen, 180 rotate, though can set a touch screen button to H/V Flip. Still cheaper build quality and screen menus though.
Nice Vid,
Same GH5 User here, Nice Setting!!!
Keep Going!!
Thanks for watching!
wow. i had no idea that the monitor could actually ADD features and information. I thought they were just dumb monitors that replicated info from the camera. thanks for the upload.
Cheers Jeff, glad it was helpful. Monitors definitely change the game, the bigger screen alone is great for manual focusing.
Good stuff!
Cheers, thanks Adam.
Interesting. Thank you
You are welcome, hope it was helpful.
Great video, Scott! I have a questions about latency. Do you feel that any of the monitors have too much latency that would make actively focusing hard?
Thanks for watching. I don't find it a problem, it's very minimal.
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I went with the Shinbo for my GH5. The only thing I feel like I will miss is the 4k 10bit 60p. Otherwise, its lighter, uses less batteries and about half the price when factoring in the hard drive. I have a solid PC and can work with GH5 stuff for quite a while before it slows down. If that happens, Davinci Resolve has a wonderful trans-code option that solve that. I even have a dedicated SSD just for that purpose. With this workflow, I get to shoot in GOP, take up less long term storage, while saving weight and money. I just wont get to shoot HLG at 60p.
Nice, the shinobo looks good. Definitely quality monitors from Atomos.
@@martiniustollin Hello, while I don't claim to be an expert in the luminance level of the GH5, I shoot in 10-bit and have mine set to 64-940 and have not had any issues with this (that I've noticed), even when I shoot in VLOG.
Thanks for the video man - super helpful info! I have a cheap monitor now similar to your Feelworld - cheap and does the job when you need a screen to check focus and for when I use it when I want to shoot top-down shots and I can't see the back of the camera. I also use it for a screen to see when I'm filming myself. I had been tempted to get the Ninja 5, but it seems with my Sony a7iii, it doesn't really unlock anything else - it still shoots 4k24 8bit even through the Ninja, so not that much benefit for me in that area.
Thanks for watching Dylan. Yeah not as much of a benefit for Sony I guess. Getting ProRes is pretty nice still but might not be worth the extra gear.
Thanks for your video. Can you record video on the camera (eg panasonic gh5, canon 90d) memory and view a clean hdmi out to a hd tv at the same time.?
Cheers, thanks for watching. You can do this with the GH5, not sure about Canon though.
Just came across this vid, really helpful. May I ask, what external battery do you use to keep it charged ? Thanks
Thanks for watching. Any NPF battery will work. Something like this amzn.to/3tz2ltu
Hiii man can i playback shooted videos with audio from GH5 with atomos or just mute videos and its not possible hear sound from GH5 while playbacking videos on monitor....Thank you for respond ! :)
Hello, when you playback on the monitor you will not hear audio unless you have something plugged into the headphone jack on the monitor. The monitors don't have built in speakers. Hope that helps!
Question. Because I do know the gh5 u cant display the LCD and the monitor vi a hdmi at the same exact time. Is there a way to fix this problem?
Hello, you can display to both at the same time. However, if you plug in the USB-c port for a gimbal or something you will lose the HDMI display and only have the camera screen.
Thank you so much,l for your help.
Another question, I bought the 4K camera monitor for my Panasonic gh5 but have unboxed and the cables canât be used on Panasonic. Anywhere you recommend to get the right hdmi for a Panasonic?
Thanks for watching. I use these cables amzn.to/48AuZcK
Thoughts on the Sigma FP? I need a monitor for one badly but also don't want to go too overboard.
I haven't looked into it much. I would assume any of these monitors (or the Shinobi) would serve you well.
What hdmi cord are you using for the fellworld master?
I've used a variety of cords. Most recently the Amazon High Speed HDMI cables have been working well for me and are low cost. I've tried some of the super slim cable cords but they break so frequently that I'm moving away from them.
Love this video! Im using a lumix g85 & when i try play back my recorded video in the monitor the quality drops to 480.. is there any way I can keep it 1080? Thank you.
Thanks for watching. I'm not sure what would cause your problem. Maybe it's the HDMI cable not being fast enough?
Great video! I also use GH5 and Atomos Ninja V with my cage/rig. Great combination. So much better than my old Aputure monitor. And codecs are much better then internal GH5 for editing and color grading in Davinci Resolve 16 Studio.
Thanks for watching, and yes totally agree. Love this monitor (with the exception of its noisy fan!)
but how to connect this?? :) Do you need to switch something on GH5 settings?? I just plugged in monitor to my GH5s and there is no image on monitor screen yet
It should just work. You can adjust your hdmi output settings on the gh5 to force 1080p if your monitor doesn't accept 4k.
Hey Scott, does the Feelworld has input lag on the GH5?
Hello, only a slight one, I haven't encountered any that don't have a slight lag though.
i have the MA5 for those reading this, it has a "flip screen" option if you want to vlog with it.
Yup, handy feature for sure!
Can you also record 10bit 60fps at feelworld monitor?
No, the feelworld isn't a recorder, only a monitor.
Scott - I notice you have a few Moza Air videos but a link to the Ronin S - which gimbal is your favourite.
I used to use the Moza for everything but then I started wanting to use the sigma 18-35 so I moved to the Ronin s. Still own both as the Moza can be nice when I want a lighter rig.
What colour profile do you use for your talking head clips man?
I use natural with contrast -5, sharpness -5, saturation -2
Hey Scott, I've been looking at getting a Feelworld monitor, the description says it supports 4k 30fps. I was wondering, does it show 60fps footage and just downsamples it to 30 or does it just not respond. Also if you're filming in 120/180fps at 1080?
I played with a monitor ages ago that only had 1080p input and as soon as you ran out 4k or a higher frame rate, it didn't like it and wouldn't respond.
I want the Feelworld as a reference monitor but have no way of testing what I'm curious about, out (nor can I find anyone who has a gh5+monitor online).
Cheers for any help.
Hey Jake. It will accept at 4k60p signal in 8-bit. If you set it to 10-bit (with the GH5 for example) the monitor won't turn on. I also believe it works fine in 120/180 fps as this is processed internally on the GH5 not sent over HDMI. Hope that helps.
@@ScottBell so 10 bit 4k 25p, it doesn't like?
This helps so much and you got another subscriber!
I wasn't 100% sure so I just hooked it up and tried it in all modes. It will shoot in 4k24p 10-bit (not sure about 25p, I shoot NTSC) and 4k60p 10-bit. You just need to have down convert over HDMI set to auto for the 60p. It also will display when shooting in 120/180 fps. So basically it works in all modes the GH5 can throw at it. Thanks for the sub, glad to have you along!
@@ScottBell Awesome! Now comes the time to consider the leap to buying my first monitor!
I've been watching some of your videos. Definitely be using you as a guide as I too have a metabones/sigma lens/ronin set up. Definitely need to get out shooting more than I do so appreciate the videos you have about just, well being creative.
You definitely will love having a monitor. No more missing focus! Glad my videos are helpful and inspiring for you. Getting out there just for the fun of it is the best way to grow and learn so I just keep doing it!
Hey there, my apologies if I missed this but can you tap to focus on the touch screen monitors? Is that's something they do or you always has to focus from the camera? Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this for me.
You'll have to focus from the camera. HDMI cables can't send information back to the camera to do this.
@@ScottBell Thanks for clarifying this! Great content!
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
Hi Scott, my shooting style is run&gun filming 90% Outdoors . Which monitor would you recommend. I am filming with the GH5. Thanks.
I'd go with the SmallHD Focus or the Atomos Shinobi (I haven't used the Shinobi but it's basically a trimmed down version of the Ninja V, without the loud fan. It does still have vent ports on it). The Feelworld is great if you are on a budget. Having touch functionality makes all the difference for me when it comes to using the advanced functions a field monitor provides. The Ninja V is great but is probably the least durable of the monitors due to the fan vent and SSD port.
Scott Bell thanks Scott.
@@ScottBell can you please help me, i want to buy the shinobi for my gh5 but idk if it supports 4k 60fps? Is there a way to do it help pls
@@user-dh5fp4gw1b Hello, yes it will work when in 4k60p mode. The Shinobi doesn't record though, so only works for monitoring.
Can the feelworld recieve 4k 60 signal from the gh5? some 4k monitors only output 4k at 24
Howdy, yes it will receive the 4k60p signal.
@@ScottBell thanks a lot
Hi, what's the part number to the power cable please?
Hey Bob, I don't know the part number. It came with my Power Junkie NPF baseplate. It's just a basic GH5 dummy battery though which are easy to find.
Hi, I got a Feelworld Monitor - but with the GH5 I failed to playback a recorded file while the monitor is attached. Also the GH5 speaker seems to be disabled. Did you have the same issues? best, Karsten
Hello Karsten, not sure why you would have issues with file playback, that works fine for me. The GH5 speaker is disabled anytime you have an HDMI cable plugged in - you need to plug headphones into the monitor to hear the audio.
@@ScottBell So then this behaviour normal- I was just surprised that even the confirmation bell sound is not present anymore when HDMI is used (e.g. when you start the record usually my GH5 makes a bing sound)
@@karsten24 I can't confirm that as I have all my operation sound muted, but I can say for sure that it is normal for playback audio to pass through the HDMI.
@@ScottBell Thanks :-)
Scott, I bought a monitor for my GH5 but when I want to see what I shot I need to unplug the HDMI otherwise I can't use the playback function. I am doing something wrong?
Hi, that is odd. My only suggestion is to check the HDMI Rec Output settings in the menu. Try changing the Down Convert setting and see if that helps. I've never experienced this issue, maybe your HDMI cable isn't high speed enough.
@@ScottBell Thank you so much! I'll give it try when I have the monitor back again.... I brought it back to the shop since they thought it might be the monitor that was broken ;-) I'll keep you updated.
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Yeah would be keen to know how to resolve this as I've heard of other folks having this issue but never experienced it.
Did you ever figure this out? Iâm having problems with this as well
hey scott i just got a neewer f100 and with my gh4 it will tell me there is no display even when connected with the HDMI, it does work however when i switch to 96 fps at 1080p.. any help?
Hello, The monitor probably doesn't accept a 4k signal. You can force the GH5 to 1080p by going into HDMI Record Output>Down Convert. I'm not sure if the GH4 has this option but assume it probably does. Hope that helps!
@@ScottBell thank you!
@@gotjesse Did that resolve the issue?
Hi đ, can I use external monitor atomos shinobi 5" with my Canon eos m5 camera. Thanks
Yup, it should work fine with any camera that has an HDMI output. Good luck!
@@ScottBell thanks Scott ... Canon eos m5 does have micro hdmi port. đ
hi ... đ thank you, I bought shinobi 5" sadly there are no connecting cables or mount included however they added power adapter for not much use đ, I am happy with quality overall, it works fine but I don't have access to my camera screen and 'Q'uick option đ€. Thanks again đ€
@@israrhussainaquarius Yeah, you'll have to buy those accessories yourself. The power cable is great when working in studio. The limitations of the camera screen and Q menu is a Canon issue that you'll experience with any monitor. I have the same problem with my Canon R6. Hope it works out for you.
Does this include the G9 as well? Do you have a recommendation?
I haven't used the G9, but everything here should apply to it as well. Since making this video I have sold my Ninja V (due to the fan being too noisy) and am now using an Atomos Shinobi. I think it's the best all around monitor for the price point.
Scott Bell Thank you for your quick response Scott.
@@MrFirstdance2000 No prob, good luck with whatever you decide to purchase.
@@ScottBell How does the Atomos Shinobi compare to the Small HD Focus? Can you power the GH5 via the Shinobi? I am between those 2 monitors for my GH5. Thanks! :)
I prefer the Shinobi to the Focus for its interface. Love Atomos's OS. It also feels a bit more solid from a build quality point of view. However it does not allow you to power the camera.
thx for the video, im seeing my self using one of this, but too greedy to pay for it :D
Thanks for watching. They are definitely an investment but after using one you'll never go back!
@@ScottBell for sure, specially outside in the bright sun, will consider when my clients base will grow)
I have a problem with 6k anamorphic on the GH5, It basically shows the image but when I hit the record button the screen goes black until I stop the recording, do you have the same problem with those monitors?
Hi Dave, thanks for watching. I haven't done any 6k anamorphic shooting with the GH5 or these monitors so I'm not 100% sure. My only suggestions are to ensure your HDMI cable is fast enough to handle the data rate and ensure the monitors are compatible with 6k anamorphic. Good luck!
@@ScottBell That's the hard part đ
I've tried with a certified 8k 2.1 HDMI cable, so it's the monitor's fault, but it seems like all monitors I find can show a maximum of 4096x2160
So I can only buy an External recorder i guess đ
Thanks anyways đ
@@davelonghi8229 Have you tried forcing the single over HDMI to 1080p (unless you are recording) to see if that helps? I've found some monitors don't properly detect the signal resolution and as a result can't display the image correctly.
@@ScottBell I've tried also that but I got the same results đ
@@davelonghi8229 Hmmm very odd, not sure I have any other ideas.
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Cheers, thanks for watching!
One feature that Iâd like to see implemented in these monitors is a quick way to have them go dark. I shoot a lot of concerts, live theatre and dance shows. After setting up the camera and starting the recording, I donât need to see the monitor, and depending where itâs placed, it can be very distracting for the audience. These are monitors that are also recording, so I canât turn them off. I have to cover them or point them so that the audience canât see.
Thanks for watching. With Atomos products you can set it to turn the screen off when you lock the screen. Super handy feature as it quickly turns back on when you press the power button again without requiring a full bootup cycle.
@@ScottBell Iâm embarrassed that I didnât know this. Iâve been using these recorders since the first Ninja 1 came out. These are essential parts of my work flow.
@@gcprost We are always learning. Someone showed it to me a month ago and it blew my mind haha! It's in the display settings somewhere. Little icon with a light bulb.
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Haha be careful, you guys might come off sounding like a spam bot :P
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I prefer not to buy the FEELWORLD monitor as I do not want to support the Chinese Communist party freedom-suppression in Hong Kong, and their limiting American and other foreign businesses free speech in speaking out against these and other forms of aggressions . There are plenty of high quality and non-expensive alternatives to FEELWORLD products.
Thanks for sharing your perspective Wayne.
Great vid! Just purchased the GH5s and am building up my rig. Have been looking into a monitor and seems like the Feelworld Ma5 might be just the right one for my needs!
Cheers Kevin, missed this comment when you made it, but thanks for watching. Hope you are enjoying your GH5s!