the creepy lives of internet 'tradwives'
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- čas přidán 22. 11. 2023
- ‘i’m raising my daughter to be a submissive housewife, and to depend financially on a man’ - um… this sounds like a recipe for trouble? get your INTIMINA Kegel Smart 2 here: protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/PpX...
who cares about womens independence mumbo jumbo when you could just depend on a man financially and stay home all day cooking, cleaning and being submissive?
#tradwife is a growing movement where women are leaving the workforce, finding a man to marry, submitting to him, depending on him financially, and going back to traditional gender roles. the woman cooks, cleans, looks after her husband and children and the husband works. it’s almost like we’re heading back 100 years to a time where women actually didn’t work - not because they didn’t want to, but because their men didn’t let them. they weren’t allowed to. hence why the suffragette movement was so neccassary. it seems strange that women now, in 2023 are romanticising traditional gender roles, and being submissive to men. could there actually be a good reason these women feel called to revert to a time where things seemed simpler? lets explore. - Jak na to + styl
I saw this meme that was like, "I was definitely born in the right decade, I love being able to tell men to STFU without being lobotomized"
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Amen. I support any woman who chooses this life but hope they retain their value as individuals which sadly tends to disappear.
Also modern healthcare. You think healthcare especially for women is bad NOW? Imagine how bad it was just 30 years ago, let alone 50+ years??! I literally screamed hell no to this kind of question in class once 😂😂😂
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@@llkoolbean4935 personal values are pretty subjective you know not everyone have the same values as you, values are a bit different everywhere and change over time
The irony of these trad wives making money off content encouraging women and sometimes shaming them into financial dependance... great logic yall got there...
Bingo!
You nailed it!
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I was literally going to say that I'm assuming they have NOT monetised their social media, since they are "not allowed" to own their own income, but I bet that they have! As hypocritical as it is grosse! 🤮
Exactly! You’d think all accounts promoting the ‘trad’ lifestyle would be run by traditional husbands showing of their lives if women can’t be distracted by things outside of the home. Surely all the accounts are not monetised if women can’t be earning money. Considering men don’t really need to fight for us all that often anymore, that’s all they have left to bring to the table apparently! How emasculating 😂
My grandmother is 107 years old, and the advise she gave all of us and her daughters, is to not depend on any man. To be independent. Because she lived in a period where she had to tolerate a lot of shit.
Yep. Our grandmothers and mothers who had to live without feminism: never depend on a man to help you out, always make your own money and build your own stability. 2023 tradwife influencers: submit to men just because they're men and gamble on them not using it to their advantage in order to abuse you, that's totally normal.
And she is 107
I genuinely get that kind of advice from a lot of older women. Advice like put yourself first, dont be a slave for no men etc.
I truly wonder do these modern influencer trad wives give all the money that they make on social media to their men. Since they say they need to be fully submissive. 😂
Feminism is the equality between of rights between men and women… this is the definition…,very god video btw !
Do they really think that the world started in 1950s-1960s?
Traditionally people were agricultural or had home based businesses. Traditionally women worked just like men. Traditionally both parents parented their children.
So true! Thank u
Right? These influencers are just monetising the demographic of ignorant people that may have been advantaged in the 50s and romanticise it
They gained this mentality from the nuclear family propaganda in north america
Exactly. Traditional wives worked really hard at home and in the farm. They didn't wear skin tight dresses and didn't have expensive hair dos and nice nails. They WERE providers, just in a different aspect.
Women have always worked ,a lot of these people sound so stupid,I wonder if they think every woman lived like royalty
What is completely ironic is that they actually make money encouraging other women not to make any of their own. Tragic.
It's all just advocacy for slavery while making bank.
I thought that, too
They are literally influencers who will start selling stuff to their followers. Social media is literally their job. 🤦🏾♀️
The oxymoron and you see the women that speak like that look facially challenged
amen!
Wait, don’t they earn money by being creators? If they do, can they still call themselves “traditional” wives?
Shhhh. We're not supposed to say that part. 🤥
Just another fad 🤷🏻♀️
No, they are hypocritics.
Cos playing hypocrites.
That's part of the grift.
my mom was a trad wife who thought being a submissive wife is her duty and she will live like a princess except all what she got was no divorce, no allowance, inhuman treatment and awful abuse that caused her to go deaf in one ear and scoliosis, cheated on 12 times and never was happy..she took her own life when I was 16 I walked into the back yard where she usually sits and saw her hanging from the tree.
that is awful and traumatising. I hope you are better now and I wish your mom would have known peace in her life. In the village next to me an older woman hung herself. She was the grandma of a boy I went to school with, in a house full of people.. Unimaginable pain
Big hugs to you. 🥺
I am so sorry to hear that, may god bless her soul and hugs for you
Sorry.
Sorry...
This movement is so weird. Don’t they realize men were also violent cheaters in the 1950’s? Don’t they know about all the drugs housewives took to numb their stress and boredom? They’re chasing something that never was.
I honestly think they don't know and would ignore these facts anyway because they only want to see the romanticized and aesthetic version of this era with this stereotypical idea that this is the ideal model of a loving, happy family where they are supposed to love each other forever,
which obviously wasn't the reality at all
"That never was" so you're telling me that men being taught to protect, love, and provide for their wives wasn't a thing? What dystopian world do you live in to make up that delusion? I'm not saying there wasn't abuse, but to say the man who protected and provided for their wives never existed is bullshit.
Weird how they are so much happier, healthier and glowing in comparison then..but then again in an actual traditional marriage the husband cherishes and respects his wife.
So true. They're romanticizing something that they were never a part of and in most cases, was not at all how it appeared.
I think they are just watching too many movies from that time period and then cosplaying as those characters
This is nitpicking, but I don't get how the person who cleans, organizes everything, and takes care of food and basic necessities is somehow not the provider of the family. She or he is quite literally providing the basics of comfort and living to the rest of the family.
They are not providing any financial value. Which can be life threatening to them above anybody else. Not having a safety net and promoting to rely solely on your man is toxic and had women stuck in abusive marriages and children at the end of the day, are the victims. And btw, these women who make these videos to influence others, are making their bag with every video, telling others they shouldn't have to. Make it make sense.
@@Raneemityok? But they’re still providing. Providing is to give something useful and while money making is providing, house work is too. Personally I’d say housework is harder than a sit down office job but it defiantly depends on the job.
@@Raneemityalso “financial value”, they actually provide a lot. Daycare and nannies for children is VERY expensive on an hourly rate.
@@Raneemityethical values are far more important and impactful than financial. Might be a reason you think everyone is against this
@@Raneemity yes, but my point was that it's wrong to say the man is the "provider" in a traditional situation, when the woman is the one who is providing so much. It just goes to show that whatever role you assume as a woman, the insecure and misogynistic men (but not the normal ones) will find a way to discount and belittle what you contribute. The fault lies with them for that. It's their insecurity, a them issue.
I’m a stay at home mom but I’m not submitting to my husband and when he gets home he helps me cook clean and takes care of our kids with me unfortunately there are extremes in every group. I definitely don’t teach my girls to depend on a man and I don’t teach my boys to make a woman do everything
Well said!
Exactly - I’d say you’re the real life version & the people in this video arr cosplaying it up for social media clout.
So he's double working? You have housework and he has work AND housework? That seems unfair
@@liliss2259 She did. She said he comes home from work and helps her with the household. How is that not double work?
@@heinzelmadchen7896 perhaps you are forgetting that homemakers don't get to "clock out"?
Do the trad-wives not understand that the trad-influencers posting these videos are spending hours a day prepping and producing them? Trad-influencers are fulltime working women. Does their audience actually believe that they just take a few minutes out between cooking and sewing to post an impromptu short? That would be funny, if it weren't so dishonest and damaging. Geeze, even in the '50s people understood that Lucille Ball and Donna Reed were businesswomen and not the housewives they played on TV. Sad.
Yeah, I think they are just glorified cosplayers
So taking care of the household and children is not also a full-time job? What are you a sexist?
@@d3r4g45it is a full time job. I think what they are trying to say is that these women who are saying they are trad wives really aren’t, because they are spending hours working on the content they post, instead of on their home, family, and husband. See the hypocrisy?
If these women were actually doing what they say they do every day they wouldn't have the time to spend 2 hours setting up to record tiktoks and youtube videos.@@d3r4g45
@@Jka507he's a troll
I can't not think about how these women say "be a traditional wife and submit to your husband and depend on him financially" while being content creators on platforms like TikTok 😅 what
Don't forget them centering the titties at optimum camera level to attract their incel following
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Its funny as hell. The implants on that blonde one too 😂 i get shes supposedly regrets it but wouldnt you get them removed if you did? Sure as hell has the money for it.
Shes just capitalising off of thirsty men and insecure women like every other person those people would consider "degen".
I’m from a feminist family because my great grandfather was disabled. My great grandmother had to provide for the family and raise 5 children. She didn’t want that for her kids, so her four daughters were all brought up as “career women” in the 1930s. I have one cousin who was a SAHM. She had a master’s degree and a great career, but gave it up when the family went abroad for a few years and she couldn’t work. She did maintain her professional license just in case. In contrast, I had one friend who wanted to go the tradwife route. She gave up her license and her husband (a banker) lost his job during the recession. They lost their home and had to survive on something like $9 an hour that she was able to make instead of the higher salary she could have made if she had kept her license. The dangers of being a tradwife and relying on men are real.
That I nice to read. My great-grandmother married my great-grandfather despite his disability (lost his foot due to a train accident), and she earned most of their income. They had 12 children together. My mother remembers them as still being very much in love, well in their 80s. All their daughters, had great educations and very nice careers just like their brothers. All their sons knew how to do the housework just as well as their sisters.
I think both men and women should get the same education possibilities. Inside and outside the house.
In which country do you live? What is a professional license? If you give it up, you can never get it back?? Just curious, because here in Brazil, regulated professions have Professional Counsels in which people have to register at. You can cancel your registry and get it back any time you want. You just to pay a fee.
9 an h must have been like 30 now
Only if the world was that simple babes. Many other things can happen to you, like health issues took my career away and I’m not get bash myself for it but accept my partners help and care instead
Those supporting trad wives often use out of context quates from the Bible. When I hear of trad wives, the first quate I think of is this: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man..." Jeremiah ch. 17.
These trad wives aren’t housewives, they are cosplaying housewives
Working class women have always worked. The idea of a stay at home wife is very middle class and really took off in the victorian age.
Thank you 👏🏻👏🏻these women want to be trad wives because economy went down hell recently 😖
EXACTLYYYYY
Not even middle class now lol prob rich class
I know a lot of people that make less than I do and they have they stay at home with their kids and they’re combined income for their houses less than 50 K a year they have like four kids
Women have always worked but it was largely in and around the HOME. So yes, women have always stayed home. It is only within the past decades that the popularity of women leaving their homes and children to work a job is exploding. That was never the case. You’re being disingenuous….And the FEW women who had to leave their homes to work were widows or had disabled husband or something….
I agree with an important point in this video - you have to ask yourself what kind of person intentionally seeks a partner who will be submissive and fully dependent on them. Personally, it's the perfect setup for an abusive relationship.
Religion
@@CordeliaWagner1999you're kinda right but not entirely I'm religious yet i don't want anyone to be submissive to me like it's weird we are equal human beings i can't imagine myself basically enslaving another human being
Yes. I feel like these tradwife accounts are just soft p0rn for the kind of dude who’s hung up on getting someone to “submit” to him.
Exactly, if a man is kind, generous, loyal, decent etc. why would he require a wife to submit and revoke speaking a single thought of her own? I have nothing against stay at home parents, but the idealization of this trope misguides.
here's the thing - i have zero problems with being a housewife, or whatever these women choose to do. I believe they're using their freedom of choice. I just know that a lot of husbands die or leave. You need to have a backup plan, because that's one long resume gap. But ultimately, i support whatever choice they make for themselves
I think that's called life insurance.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you can't live off of life insurance forever, and the person can just leave you, or could be abusive and you may want to leave
@@lalayastill610 if they're abusive then they're not a traditional man. Don't conflate different ideas.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh not all traditional men are abusive but the environment for traditional behaviors is indeed a breeding ground abuse
I have 0 problems with women who want to stay home and raise kids, as long as it's in a healthy stable household. It's the obnoxious preaching that all women SHOULD stay home and raise kids regardless of what they want and the "women should submit to their husbands" that makes my skin crawl, especially when it comes from women who are incredibly hypocritical about it.
Fun fact. The trad wife content creator Estee wanted to be an actress. It’s seems she’s found her role. Working on social media making trad wife content.
there is literally a video where she said she tried to be a fitness model but didn't succeed, moved to Vegas for a reality show but it didn't work out, and tried to study meteorology but dropped out... This feels like a massive cope. She is so young and getting the fame she's been wanted right now with social media content, but she'll grow bored of her life. It's all an act
That explains her giant implants...
@@HortenseLapasse Also she comes from a very rich background. So even if her marriage fails she has a place to fall back on.
@@HortenseLapasse or she was just trying to be what everyone else told her she should be, and instead decided she was happier being a housewife. Yall realize that none of these tradwives are pushing their liefstyle onto us, right?
@@sandygonsalves4646 oh no she is. look at her socials. They shame women who don't live this way it's a political movement
These people need to read "The Way We Never Were" by Stephanie Coontz, which explains how the "traditional nuclear family" was in actuality a historical fluke of the mid 20th century, and how "traditional household roles" drove many women to alcoholism and depression.
😂😂😂😂😂
Could never be me... I want an equal partner. Not someone controlling my entire life.
Ever noticed all the trad wives are young ? What happens when the men aren’t attracted to them anymore ? You know , the ones in charge of the trajectory of the relationship? Lol
Women in these situations have no social life , where the man gets a huge social life with who ever he pleases . You can’t even ask someone why they were late or gone all night in these scenarios.
once they hit +40 they will find another 20y old wives
Why does the husband have to lose interest when his wife gets older?
@@amandaglenn1612Sweetie men are so visual. Younger is always more beautiful, they are going to long for the more beautiful. And unfortunately most men are not sentimental and willing to betray their wife if they can get away with it. Or they just straight up discard their wife for a younger beauty. Meanwhile women are taught that they will always be there for us. That's made up BS to keep us demured
@@amandaglenn1612 of course this should not happen but unfortunately it can happen, it is not new that a lot of older men are too interested in very young women, if we are dependent on a man for 10, 20 years or more it's going to be very difficult to leave him and find a job after so much time without working and with little to no experience
@@tr4sh.doll_it happens to anyone. Anyone can look elsewhere for dating. Yes it does suck that infidelity happens, but if you really look into the content that these wives post, a lot of them give out advice when dating, they literally say when it comes to being a traditional wife, you have to be careful who you date, and you have to be very selective on the type of man that you're dating.
The only living thing I’m willing to submit to is my cat 🤡
Same here haha!
Typical feminist cat lover... (🤣 jk, jk, I myself am a feminist cat lover).
SAME OMG 🤣
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😂fr 😂😂
What’s funny is so many of these influencers talk about staying home and not working… while literally working as an influencer! So they are bringing in money and building avenues to support themselves if need be, while telling other women not to.
Having a small business is not the same as working for a corporation. We all know this.
Then imagine the effect on that to young women who follow her content? She deserves to be called out because she literally influences younger women to enter a lifestyle that could be dangerous for them.
I want these Tik tok trad wives to talk to me in 10 years, especially those whose husbands leave them for a lady at the office who is intriguing because she doesn’t need him
I think the blonde girl of the video live a sad life and try to compensate it with the media she creates. If she is so busy, how can she be creating all that content? Ugh make me sick that they are trying to sell their decisions to other women
@@anaicamwhat is sick about staying home & taking care of your family?
“I don’t think a lot of women want to admit that they need men” oh goodness. 👁️👄👁️ I’ve been single for many years and enjoying my journey but I’m now being told by other women that I’m secretly sad because I need men. Sheesh. What a step backwards this is. Also, have lesbians taught us nothing about life happiness without a male partner?! Personally, I think it’s perfectly fine to live life however you feel. If you’re not hurting anyone then how you choose to live your life is your choice. What’s disturbing is that women on both extreme sides of the topic are throwing stones and hurting each other in the process.
I’m single and I absolutely do want a male partner, but I’m not going to throw myself into a relationship I’m not happy in just because someone else thinks I should. I think it’s important for anyone to be comfortable with themselves whether they are looking for a relationship or not.
@@christinepoppy3277 Exactly! I am open to having a relationship in the future, but I'm also happy single, so if I start dating I will be picky and take my time.
It’s all fun and games until you realize your ex husband is a narcissist abusive sociopath who holds you hostage via financial manipulation, DV, psychological abuse and threats of making you homeless during the pandemic when you unfortunately lost your job and many people were also victims of such situations because of lockdown. I’m still in treatment for all of this and no I was no tradwife by choice but I became one … 8:49
that’s who you chose to marry…
that is victim blaming. never married my guy, but spent 8 years taking care of mine financially, at home and our child. i couldn’t leave, and not by choice. every time i got the strength and did leave, manipulation and mental gymnastics put me right back to square one and back to the abuse. take your comment elsewhere.
I am so sorry to hear this. I've been there too, one too many times. Yours and my situation are common place for many many women, sadly. Too many actually. I work with DV women and there is a never ending stream of such situations. Please keep strong. The treatment will help a lot and you will thrive after all. I promise you that. Warm hugs to you. 🤗🤗
@@wobblykittens even if you didn't choose to marry that guy, you still chose to be in a relationship with him. Leaving an abusive relationship isn't easy, however making the choice to be in relationship, with an abusive person is still a choice, and you made that mistake and you learned from it, that's not victim blaming, that's the truth.
@@sindelscat9336yes people see abusive individuals and think “that’s what I want for myself”. Honestly y’all just need to be quiet if you have nothing good to add
“Some men are just wankers and they don’t deserve you”
Stephanie you need to have tshirts printed with this so we can all walk around and warn the other girlies. 💕
Imagine men wearing shirts that hate on women, why would you want a shirt that's so pathetic
Fuck, even the guys want that as a thing. Really, it's not hard to not be a fuckwit as a guy. The problem with this stuff isn't that some people chose to arrange their lives in a consensual way, fine, bake a cake in the afternoon. But you just need everyone to not be a fuckwit. But the core is, if a guy wants a woman who is his slave, he's a fuckwit.
It’s all well and good to be a stay at home wife and mother until your husband ends up in financial ruin, becomes ill or disabled himself, abuses you or leaves you when you are ill or become disabled and no longer serve “a purpose” 🙅🏼♀️
All of this tradwife thing only truly works if you find a nice, simple, kind and a decent man.
With a high paying, eternally secure job. Most modern families need 2 incomes.
@@dinahnicest6525not really. it’s possible to survive off of one average income. it’s hard but you can do it. that’s how my family and i lived and we grew up fine and happy
@@pouncebounce What is the average wage? The stats we often hear for the average household income are calculated with a lot of 2 income families. Something like 40% of American families rely on food assistance. You can't raise a family on one Walmart, Amazon or fast food paycheck.
@@pouncebounce dude, you are commenting under every single comment where people express their valid concerns just to validate your ways. It's like an opposit of growing up fine
Which is very hard, finding a kind and decent man is just as hard as findinf kind and decent woman 😢
This Pearl girl is the epitome of pick me girl
Absolutely. She thrives off the validation she gets from men when she spouts misogynistic drivel. The sad irony is nobody actually picks Pearl.
She’s so cringe. Honestly just comes across like she has no self esteem
That lady needs help
She is pick me and skip me 😂
I’m a stay at home mom at the moment, who raised my two kids. They are both in high school now. It’s terrifying having been out of the workforce for a decade. Terrifying. Now that my kids are old enough to not need daycare, I can’t wait to finally focus on my career. I never want to rely on a man, even though my husband is great. It’s just not healthy. The pressure to be forever be the sole provide isn’t health for him. The fear of not being independent isn’t healthy for me. These trad wives are delusional if they think the way they live is ideal. It’s only ideal in some fake, perfect, fantasy land, that doesn’t exist. A fantasy land where men never cheat. Where the man never gets sick. Never gets laid off. Never dies. Never leaves for a younger woman.
They have rich parents to fall back on all good for them
Not good for most
Lucky for you, I don't think any man will ever leave you assuming that's you in profile pic.
@@stephen-gi9uz You never know… I might be conventionally attractive but also a raging btch 😂
Theres an entire generation of women now in their 50s and 60s living under the poverty line because they were stay at home mums in the 70s and 80s, then went through a divorce, the kids grew up, inflation kicked in, and now they have no skills or money of their own. What happens when these career women who "gave up their jobs" end up poor and homeless because of their decisions?
There’s nothing traditional about having the financial and physical autonomy to choose to be submissive to a man lmfao. This is ironically, the most modern decision that they could’ve made, and underscores their own autonomy that they are able to choose to participate or not participate in this lifestyle.
Obeying your husband but being resentful is not submission. So even if a woman without means simply obeyed her husband without her heart and understanding being in it, it was not submission. Submission is an intentional and intelligent act. It also requires true understanding of the nature of man and true love for your husband.
Can you elaborate on the true nature of a man?@@AWellOrderedHome
I was a stay at home mom for 10 years. They were the happiest days of my life. My husband made good money, we had nice things nice vacations a peaceful life. Then one day he cheated on me and divorced me in 30 days. I am a model and my house was featured in a magazine, so it was not that. He turned out to be a garden variety narcissist. I asked for enough alimony to pay my bills for two year and started an interior design business. Now I’m a self made millionaire and retired at 55. Both lives had their advantages and set backs but I would definitely never depend on a man financially one hundred percent. It’s too scary
The "feminism is copium" concept causes a response in me that I don't have words for.
If you want to be a tradwife, go ahead, but be very careful about the partner you choose (and falling into the pickme trap).
The rise of this lifestyle seems to sharply correlate with the serious toxicity coming out of the manosphere, which worries me. I recently saw a video showing interviews with men who don't think women should be allowed to divorce them, and its red flags had red flags.
Just... be careful, ladies.
Yet they would wanna divorce the wife if SHE cheats.....
Most tradwives/traditional women advocate for women to be very intentional and conscious about who they marry. They aren't just saying submit to any and every man.
@@janicefinch3563It doesn't matter, they have no right to tell others what to do, and for me i believe both men and women should have a level of independency because we don't need burdens in society if the person you depend on dies or is gone, everything is okay either being a housewife, a working wife or both heck not all women want to be wives in the first place, why does society want to tell women what to do in everything, weird
@@janicefinch3563being careful will not save you if your husband gets tun over by a truck.
@@sisuguillam5109 Umm.. yes it will.
A man who is prudent and caring for his wife will ensure that their is a plan in place if he were to pass away. This is why life insurance policies exist.
Honestly, I don’t know how anyone can live comfortably on one income anymore.
We do.
you're right - these wives are looking for wealth and not traditions
I could never stay at home raising children all day everyday. I need to be able to make my own money n be independent. I left my ex bc he turned out to be controlling n abusive. He sabotaged every job n opportunity I pursued. I had to patiently wait for my chance to get away with our 6 yr old son n am in a domestic violence shelter now taking advantage of the opportunities to get back my independence. You don't have to stay in an abusive relationship, you aren't alone n there's help out there when ur ready to leave. Please just be safe and operate in secrecy while they are away from the home
Your so smart! You motivate me be like you because my dad literally says he loves dating mexican ladies because they have no money and are dependent. So he is able to easily control them.
Some men just love controlling people 😠
The main thing that causes me to not get on-board with being a full-on trad wife is that when you don't make your own money, *your husband is your boss.*
You better be getting paid a weekly salary as a trad wife because if he divorces you, you will have to return to the work force and you have ZERO work history for the past 10, 20 etc years.
You will not get a job.
So you better save up your money and get a GOOD alimony paycheck.
Also, he works 40-50hrs a week. YOU work 24/7. You are ALWAYS working. You never get a break unless he truly is one hell of a man and does some chores and cooks some meals. You, as a trad wife, are now an unpaid:
-nurse
-smex worker
-chef
-therapist
-maid
-administative assistant
Etc.
All unpaid.
If a woman is down for that, hey, who am I to argue? It's not my life. I just... Could never.
It's not unpaid, in terms of money the husband pays for both of you. Everything you mentioned comes naturally in a relationship. I don't see myself as somenurse when my boyfriend needs medical aid, I don't see myself as some type of chef when i cook for the both of us, and i definitely don't see myself as a sex worker whenever we have sex. That's such a discusting way to view it. Putting the things housewives do in such bulletpoints just make it seems like they are being taken advantage of, while it's a choice of hers, discussed by both parties
@@old_yeller4251You blew past all of my points entirely.
If your husband pays for everything, he controls the finances by definition and default. He is your "boss". Except if you're together for 25yrs and never got a college degree or had a career beforehand, and he divorces you, you have ZERO work experience or education and you are screwed. You better get a great divorce settlement.
You're definitely speaking from your own experience. You are a fool if you truly believe most SAHM/housewives are pampered and NOT expected by their husbands to do everything I outlined in my comment. Open. Your. Eyes.
When he comes home from work, does your husband take over caring for the kids?
Does he often do laundry, dishes, cook meals, and plan out how to budget the finances and grocery shopping?
If he does, *that is absolutely amazing and he SHOULD be doing that. And he is the EXCEPTION.* And that is an example of a great tradwife situation.
One that the majority of tradwives don't experience.
@@old_yeller4251 yeah I agree that we're not exactly like a nurse, chef, etc but I think what she means is that housework is a lot of work, and it is unpaid because your man can control all the expenses and even what he gives to you, which is probably not the equivalent of a salary and realistically it's just not our money even if our husband shares it with us
@@old_yeller4251 But that's the reality. As a stay at home mom, you ARE all of those things (perhaps not in as crude of terms), as in, you fulfill all of those duties. You cook, you clean, you raise the children (which is a CRAZY amount of work by itself), you schedule the appointments, you take the kids to all their activities, etc. And having your partner "pay" for both of you is still not the same as getting a salary. The money the husband pays goes towards their shared life and expenses, but none of it is something the wife can use for her own personal expenses, unlike getting paid a salary. You don't make the money, therefore none of it is really yours to spend freely. That limits your independence, freedom, and security, whether or not you choose to acknowledge it
Ummmmm, and women who work outside the home do all that on TOP of their 8-4 jobs…. People talk about splitting the chores but we all know most working women still end up doing most of the household chores anyway.
My biggest issue with trad wives specifically is the submit to husband garbage and the “this is your only job” because it severely devalues women and it’s incredibly mysogenistic. If they just wanted to be housewives treated fairly with equal rights living the way they wanted to, then go ahead and do it. The problem is they aren’t just content with keeping that choice to themselves and are trying to force every woman to live the way they do, regardless of whether those other women want to or not.
They are kind of pick mes. They like the hype they get from men as if they are better women. Unfortunately a lot of them feel like that.
It's because the bible tells them to submit and obey their husbands. The order according to the bible is literally god>husband>wife>kids. I would love to become a housewife, but without the 'husband is more important than the wife' part. I like Estee William's lifestyle, but then she says stuff like 'My husband makes all the decisions. When my husband says no in any situation it's a no' and I'm like oof
What about the Muslim religion…? Literally female genital mutilation… their sole purpose being to submit to their husband and get their genitals mutilated… what about that? Females forced into marriages as teenagers only to be cast aside when the husbands decide they want to trade their wife in for a newer younger model. That is happening NOW as I type this. Y’all are picking on the wrong community of women. Wake up.
@@old_yeller4251if you actually read the Bible, it also tells men to love and serve their wives. I am not a Christian, in fact I am far from it, however a lot of people love to take that out of context without reading what husbands must do with their wives.
And the funny thing is that these are actually influencers. Social media is their job. They get paid for it. They can start selling their followers stuff and merch if they wanted to. They are just selling a delulu fantasy to young girls and women who are tired of working at a shitty job.
Coming from a country where at least for my generation, a lot of women are housewives, I can promise you more than 90% women would not wish that way of life on anyone. Most of them werent allowed to work or study further so they had no way to leave their toxic husbands but they do raise THEIR own daughters to work and be able to support themselves so that we never have to be helpless and dependent on anyone. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be a homemaker but "submitting" to a man and ending up stuck in an abusive relationship is also very real! Whether you're a homemaker or a career woman, I feel like financial independence is extremely important for everyone.
Thank you Steph this was so well written. True feminism is about choice. It becomes a problem when one side or the other begins to tell women that this is how everyone should act and that how another woman is living their life is “wrong“. If you want to be a “trad wife“ and you are not pushing your ideals on anyone else, go fucking for it. Just let people do what they want.
they are entitled to promote their lifestyle
@@jamesright9009 promotion and condemnation are two different things.
"True feminism is about choice" LOUDER
True feminism, not modern feminism
@@Macee44Right. And they are only promoting.
My Mom told me to never depend solely on a man... to always be able to support myself and my children independently. That's what I've taught my daughter and every female in my family that I can catch. These women want this life and that's fine but it's likely to blow up in their face if not now, then in the future. Those are the stats...
Women are going to do what they want regardless. When you tell a woman who wants to be traditional to work instead, she’s already zoning out. Instead of approaching it with this mindset, teach women how to protect themselves if this is the path they choose. That’s true feminism.
@@Lisa-ch4uf I don’t care what choices women make as long as they go into it with their eyes open. The statistics don’t lie. Divorce is a coin toss away. Be smart about your decisions and be able to protect and provide for yourself and your children if needed.
“That’s what I tell every female in my family that I can catch.” Again it’s not cool to force your ideology onto someone else’s child. Let them make their own decisions and teach your daughter whatever it is you want to teach her. Maybe you have good intentions, but if I was their mom I would feel very uncomfortable you telling my child what she should and should not do. Imagine someone telling your child to depend on a man. You would be very pissed. That’s just my opinion 🤷🏽♀️ Leave the parenting to the parents and teach you daughter whatever it is you want to teach her.
@@Lisa-ch4uf Idiotic argument lmao "Teach your children things, but don't teach your children things, but also, teach your children things".
Depending on anyone that isn't you is shite, objectively, statistically, no way around it, you may find 1 good man that supports these archaic values 1 in a million(or better, believe you found one and realize 10 years later you wasted yourself to a worthless man), but that's just luck, while knowing how to be independent will always give you the tools to survive, 100% of the time.
So yeah, you ideally want all your kids to survive and be happy, so you teach them to be independent and skilled in taking care of themselves, this is objectively good.
@@Lisa-ch4uf It's a pretty bad bet for women to rely solely on their partner financially. This is not an ideology, but a statistical fact. I can't understand why it would be better to lie to others.
When the woman doesn’t have any access to or say over the finances in the house, it is a recipe for DISASTER for her. I’ve heard too many stories of women trapped in abusive relationships or left with nothing after a divorce (even if she works and her husband handles the housejold finances) or left with nothing after the husband’s death because she doesn’t know where he kept everything or because his family swooped in and took it all from her.
Absolutely not.
Completely agree. I’ve known too many women who have stayed home even after the kids were much older and felt trapped because they’ve never worked and can’t fend for themselves. Never good to be so dependent on another person.
As a modest man I would want my wife to have a job of her own so that we both can work hard and provide the best childhood to our children.
Out of interest, who raises your children if you're both working?
@@fordlafemme They have parents, day care.
@@fordlafemme Day care, family members and obviously they don't work all day. This is how it's done in my country.
As a teen girl, this is honestly infuriating as impressionable young kids (like my classmates smh) look at this nonsense everyday because of such people. I wonder why we have to tie ourselves down to be loved... Is that really the kind of love you want? Is that person worthy of loving you? How can they see you shackling yourself, with joy?
Edit: i have a question. Would a non trad husband be viewed positively? I think not. But, what if they do not wanna work in corporate and instead raise kids? HUHHHHH! 😱
What you call nonsense might be another one's treasure and what you view as a treasure is what they call nonsense.
I'm happy that you make more sense than some of these older trad wives. It's tragic how young boys watch this nonsense, gives really bad vibes for the future. At the end of the day they only teach people to love submission and control but not to love a real person.
Young girls like you keep my faith in future 🫶
@@heinzelmadchen7896 The misogyny is absolutely nonsense
@@DragonicCherry what misogyny? Women choosing to be traditional isn't misogynistic.
I think a lot of this has to do with the job market and terrible economy. Along with tradwives, there has been a rise of people wanting to live more simple lives like cottagecore.
Covid and the rise of remote work really showed that people crave a work-life balance and don't want to dedicate all of their lives to a desk. I work from home now and not even a salary increase would get me back to the office.
Imagine "submitting" and doing everything for your husband and he still cheats.
As someone who is definitely NOT on TikTok, I didn’t know about this “TradWife” thing. I think the majority of us women are somewhere in the middle of “trad wife” and “feminist”. Both terms have been associated with toxic ideas, in my opinion. I was raised by a hard working woman who was the bread winner of our family. I did feel pressure to go down that same road (college, career) but in the end I married a wonderful man and once I began having kids, realized that my happy place is in the home with them and being in charge of traditional home making duties. I don’t think it’s right for every woman but for me, it’s fulfilled me more than anything I did before as a single independent woman. And as a side note because I didn’t hear it discussed in this video, when a woman “submits” to her husband he should in turn “submit” to his wife. It’s a partnership and both should bring something to the table that is beneficial to the family as a whole.
Great view point!
Thank you so much for this❤
Love it ❤ have the same life situation and cannot be happier
equally yoked
f the bible shit@@seabreeze4559
As someone who was manipulated into the trad wife life almost permanently, they’re all getting cheated on 10000%
Not everyone is you dear 🙃
I was a die hard trad wife from 20-30 when my ”ever right, leading husband” who promised to always care for me and share retirement funds decided to leave me with 6 kids, the youngest being 6 months. He was the driving force to have a lot of children and me staying home. I had no education, no job, no home and no income and no child support. I was basically f*ucked. He said no when I wanted to study from home when our 5th child was 1. Less than 18 months later I was left since he found the single life better. That was a wakeup call for me. If you want to stay home do it but make sure you have a plan and means to care for you and your children if he turns Batsh!t crazy on you… (I have now graduated and have a job I like and takes care of me and the four minor children still living with me).
That’s great that you were able to rise above it and become independent ❤
@@itsjustme7979 Thank you 🙏🏼 ❤️ It took a lot of hard work and still does but I always do my best. But it is my warning to anyone not to blindly trust anyone with your future.
@@Pinktoolbox you’re a smart lady. Be proud of yourself ❤️
@@itsjustme7979 I try my best and I hope I do more right choices than bad so that my children will be proud. I know the oldest four are and the youngest two hopefully will be too. They love my to my bones so I think they will once they understand the concept of being proud of anyone 🥰❤️
@@Pinktoolbox ❤️❤️
I love how she dresses up in pseudo-traditional dress, does her hair and makeup perfectly, and wear pearl. While her husband wears a graphic tshirt
I have been married 33 years and have done the stay at home, work and juggle and so on. I think you do you and whatever makes you happy BUT the trad wife does not exclude the possibility of being cheated on. The trad wife cheated on or the husband just leaves the marriage, what is she going to do? the wife will need money and be able to depend on herself, how to balance the bank account vs bills ! Interesting topic Steph
I love how none of these ninnies ponder what would happen should they become unexpectedly widowed. Learned helplessness is no way to survive such a possibility.
Or if the husband divorces, or becomes disabled.
How do you know they didn’t think of that?
You know there’s such a thing as a will? A bank account? A trust? Insurance?
@@SobieWarmate Because their thing, if you are familiar with them, is that things like this aren't necessary because they are salt of the earth and will be healthy and hopelessly in love forever. In the case of the affluent ones, perhaps a family lawyer advises what you suggest.
honestly, these women who uploads this, are just doing it to get attention. OF COURSE it's fine, wonderful, whatever - for women who wants to be stay home wives. but they are just happily married in silence. not uploading to tiktok and acting like she is beneath the man. i think it's just to get attention AND to to find a weird type of purpose. maybe trauma is involved sometimes.
I bet you are right about trauma
Is for the money, which is ironic since they claim they do not provide lmao
I definitely see it as a combo of a need for attention, any communication with people outside the home because they don’t seem to be getting any, and realizing this may not actually be what they want so in order to feel better about it, they try to bring others into their personal hell. Might not even be all of it, but I doubt they love every single aspect and have 0 complaints ever, it’s just unrealistic even if they did enjoy the life.
I really like that you looked at the arguments on both sides.
Like you've said at the end, modern women should be able to do whatever they want. Simple as that. If a woman wants to be a stay at home wife/mom, why not?
Most of us (at least I hope so) want to make the people we love happy. And acts of service are one of the five love languages after all. So I can understand why someone would want to do that.
Some parts of housework can even be fun in my opinion. I like cooking and baking (especially when people appreciate the things you make) and I like vacuming and cleaning windows for some reason. 😅
However, the "submit to the man" part of it makes me uncomfortable and I am saying this AS A MAN. I wouldn't want a woman to submit to me. I would constantly feel like the toxic one in an unhealthy relationship. And I want a partner that tells me when I'm acting stupid. How are you supposed to help each other improve when you don't allow yourself to say your honest opinion?
Great point I agree with your stance 💯
All these online trade wives are hypocrites because here there on TikTok making money more money there husbands a trade doesn't do that
I come from a "traditional" family and my upbringing has made me a feminist. I watched my mother try to be a trad wife except that my father didn't want one. He was brought up by a very strong independent woman and he didn't know how to find himself with a woman who was the opposite, who wanted to be a stay at home mother and a housewife. But he took advantage of the fact that my mum let him make all the decisions and cooked and cleaned, and took care of the kids while he would do next to nothing aside from going to work (my mum worked as well). He also had all the control over finances and was emotionally abusive, we lived how he wanted to, he used to say that since we lived under his roof we'd follow his rules. My mother spend her entire life praying he'd turn into the prince charming that she thought she deserved. He never did but my mother not once thought that she was partly responsible for her own misery - she spent the rest of her life feeling victimised because my father wouldn't give her what she wanted. "Trad wife" is a dream, it's an illusion, it rarely works out, most men don't actually want nor respect someone who refuses to look after themselves. The person who's paying the bills has the ultimate control. My mother never left her abusive marriage because she couldn't afford to - she was utterly miserable. But she didn't want to deal with life either - it was easier to make my father feel like a loser cause he wasn't a traditional man. It was a cycle of misery for both my parents - this so called "traditional" marriage. Anyone advocating this is either delusional or has an agenda, selling the dream to women who don't want to shoulder the live's burdens. And most common complaint that I hear from men is that they don't feel supported by their wives. It strokes their ego at first - to be the man. But this wears off rather quickly. No man wants a woman who's a burden. Do not force men to bear the sole responsibility for the life's troubles so that you can conveniently hide from the world at home. You're an adult - act like one, do your part, have some respect for both yourself and the man in his life. What if he'd like to be a stay at home dad?
I was just like your mom and couldn't agree more. And I don't know how to get out.
If you have children, someone has to take care of them. It doesnt make a woman a "burden" on her husband nor is she hiding from the world. Im sorry that your mom was foolish, but you are wrong about that last part.
@@mariesolal Start putting aside money for yourself in secret. Even if it's a few dollars a week. Get started today and make a plan. Even if it takes years to get away, you can start right now.
Fucked up for you to basically call stay at home spouses burdens. My husband is disabled and I am the sole provider. I would NEVER call my spouse a burden. I feel sorry for you that you were so traumatized by your childhood you have lost empathy.
@@nothanks9912you are a burden to people around you if your comments are any indication of your attitude problem
When I hear that a man wants a "trad wife", i hear "stepford wife".
I think if a woman wants this kind of lifestyle it’s fine and shouldn’t be looked down upon just like if a woman doesn’t want this it’s fine and shouldn’t be looked down upon. Woman should have the freedom to do what they please and choose the lifestyles they please without being shamed isn’t that what feminism is about? I think it’s pretty hypocritical that some trad wife’s shame the other side and vice versa with woman who don’t want to be traditional shaming trad wife’s. Just let woman be what they want to be.
exactly
no freedom for opponents of freedom
I don't understand why people have the idea that they have to be one thing or the other I am definitely a traditional wife but I'm also a family engagement coordinator for a school district. I love caring for my family but I definitely allow my partner to do the dishes and help me with laundry etc. because we're a team and we rise together. We all have days where we're less than 100% and that's when we allow our partners to do a little more and sometimes a little less.
Emily Davison was such a tragedy. It's thought she was actually trying to pin a flag to the bridle of the King's horse, and had no intention of throwing herself under the horse
ye its still debated what actually happened but this youtuber presented that she threw herself in the field as fact when that may be not the case
Omg, yes, you're probably right, of course. Sigh, just another government cover up. Make them look crazy and suicidal
I’m going to obviously get a lot of hate for this… but I recently left my position at an accounting firm because I absolutely hated it, to become a housewife full time. I am NOT “submissive” to my husband, we are a team and all decisions are made together. He supported my choice to get into accounting and pursue my career there and he supported me when my mental health was suffering and I needed a break. He doesn’t care if I work or don’t work… but he appreciates how happy I am now, and he loves the fresh baked goodies I make and the home cooked meals every night.
It’s not all about some “viral fad” about gender roles… it’s honestly just about being a team and supporting each other, whatever that looks like. I could choose to go back to work tomorrow, and my husband would support me. Not all husbands want their wives to be submissive and chained to the stove… mine just wants a happy life partner that enjoys what she does.
No one should hate your story or choices. If it works for you and your fella that’s all that matters, Darling. Good for you both to share a mutually supportive and loving union. 💕💫
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I think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with choosing to take on a “housewife” type of roll. Everyone is able to make their own decisions about their lives and how they want to live them. What I don’t like about the trad-wife “trend” I’ll call it, is them basically telling all women that it’s their place to be at home without a career, and to also be submissive. I also think these women teaching their daughters that is pretty messed up Lmao
I'm largely anti-trad wife, but your story is a great example of how it can work for some people. There are exceptions to every rule, and I see your story as great. You clearly already had your education and career in a row (a good backup plan), realized you hated it, and you seem to have an actual good man who doesn't do what some sh!tty men who want a SAHM/housewife would do. So I'm super happy for you and it seems like the right choice for your life 😊
Well said❤
Ya let me just say, I thought this was the life for me. Until I lived it and I was miserable. I couldn’t wait to get out and do my own thing and I was drowning in chores every day. I def need a balance and a break from my home life
I support you ❤️
I am a mother & homemaker, my husband is the provider. We support each other. It works amazingly. We are far less stressed than any other couple we know. I have my own opinions & access to all the money because it is equally mine and his. We make decisions together, but if necessary, I defer to his authority.
Same. I feel loved, valued, respected, and protected. I wouldn't change a thing.
Funny thing is - you can do all this for a man and he’ll still go out and cheat on you😅
When men convince women that tradwife is ok, you have the origins of Hand Maids Tale.
Boom!
I laughed when one of the commenters said “if your a feminist your going to be single.” Dude is the one who is most likely single 😂
Being a traditional wife isn’t bad, like make yourself happy. The ISSUE is forcing every woman into trad wife roles.
Real talk, and only My opinion for My life here, I truly appreciate the fact that women can choose to live in whichever way she so chooses in this day and time. I love voting, driving, painting and loud music, I also love my me time. However I also truly love homesteading, not working outside the home, raising gardens and food, making home made bread, cookies, candy, canning and preserving,making my own soaps, homeopathic medicines,dehydrating and storing the things I grow, raising my children, taking care of my home and my husband. I am personally fulfilled by my life in doing these things. My husband also respects me as an equal and supports me emotionally and physically and loves my Fiesty personality and my opinions. He is not my boss, we are partners in life and does help with household things, and the kids. I think women should be able to choose their path and live it happily
I’m just like you it seems. I totally agree. The reason I want to tell people about my life (although I’m not a tik tok trad poster lol) is because I have a really easy and creative beautiful supportive life and I want ALL women to know about it have the chance to have the same if they want it.
If I was working I could never have the rest and creative freedom I have now. When I was young I became a lawyer and even did jury trials. I drove the nicest car and bought designer clothes to go to art gallery openings etc.
I said I would NEVER be a mother or need a man.
Now I can just rest. Good grief 😅 what was I thinking 🤣🤣🤣
Don’t miss out ladies. It’s better to rest with your babies. I’ve done both 💕🫶
No these women rather work 40 hours a week for corporations and let the TV raise their kids and hire maids on Groupon to do their housework lol 😂
@@valarmorghulis4801 I have compassion for those who have been convinced that’s a better way to do things because I was one myself 🤪
But honestly not a lot of women truly get to see both sides of this coin so I chime in sometimes in case there are young women reading who need to hear it.
FIND A MAN WHO WILL LET YOU STAY HOME! By the time you’re 35 you’ll be so tired of working!
I also had this advantage: I got married at 19. If you become a career woman and are not married men don’t want you for marriage. I’m sorry 😭 these are hard truths. Women can listen to other women all day long but it won’t help them in the long run.
Nearly every single last man who my husband works with has a stay at home wife. Working wives are for poor men. Again- IM SORRY to break it to everyone but these are the facts.
I love hearing stories of where it works for women! And I really wish it could be like that for more women. It seems you’ve found a good partner. My only concern is that these women won’t understand that not all women can have their trad wife life - for many reasons, whether it be the men they end up with, or pa see traumas they can’t ever break through and they need their level of independence
So the issue isn’t the trade wife life and telling people about it - it’s about forcing it onto all women. Shaming them and blaming them for not choosing the same life. Not taking into account some women can’t have that lifestyle or don’t want it.
@@valarmorghulis4801 Using that logic men do the same thing.
you pointed out everything except how unsustainable this lifestyle is in 2023. the two income household has become the norm so much that surviving on one paycheck is impossible unless your twenty and childless or living in the country side with your own garden. have you seen rent? the price of groceries? these women may say they 'dont' work but they are 'working', they are influencers. this lifestyle is a dream for other people, no one can afford to not work these days, and ironically, it was white high born ladies in the past who did not work as well, because only rich husbands can afford that, all the common women have always and will always work.
I think these "traditional wives" just want wealth: they don’t want to work and they would like to have maids,
they don’t want to give birth to 10 children and plow 24/7 in the garden and at home
At age 41, i switched to a super easy WFH job and basically kinda fell into a "housewife with a paycheck" role. It's awesome. Many work days, i only have a few hours of work at my job. I love cooking, cleaning, and running a house. I'd happily quit my current job to have a side gig and housewife it up (something my husband is in favor of when we can afford it). But ive also got a Master's degree and years of work experience. Heck, i was a single woman with her own home for 15 years. Im perfectly capable of taking care of myself if my husband dropped dead or left me. I love that i can kinda housewife things but also have the security of a job.
What's your job?
My husband and I split household chores and I have been told multiple times by women that is so weird and not normal. Excuse me I work full time too so why should I be responsible for the household chores.
I love that you made a video on this!!! I was a trad wife and it sent me into such deep depression.
Wtf is wrong with society? I'm so tired of these anti-feminism movements, especially among women. Like if feminism would be doing any harm to them. It’s okay if they want to be a homemaker; that's the point of feminism for me - to have the freedom to choose what to do with your own life. But they don't need to spread negativity over the internet or to teach their daughters to be useless without a man🥲
100% 🙏
I think women want to live simple lives and not be slaves to capitalism. Some also disagree with the sexual liberation movement which is basically just women sleeping around or s3x work and getting trauma and pretending that it's empowering. There are many valid reasons to criticize the feminism movement.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhit's true that some forms of "feminism" deserve to be criticized, but definitely not by men.
@@tokki5585 I don't understand your logic. Modern feminism is anti-men. So why wouldn't men criticize feminism? Men are also 50% of the relationship. Your logic doesn't make any sense.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh feminism is about female liberation. I don't think our oppressors should be criticizing any form of it. criticize your own.
Pearl is NOT a representative of the conservative/traditional lifestyle. With that being said, I would LOVE to watch a video from you with your take on Pearl.
Totally agree! She's really hypocritical and way off the mark sometimes lol.
No words can describe the amount of rage I feel when i hear the word "trad wife". Unfortunately, I come from a family where the mother is a trad wife. I am witnessing what it's like to be a trad wife with my own eyes. When my parents married, my dad reassured that he's gonna provide her and us with everything that we need (spoiler alert: he didn't lol). Now, my parents are in a toxic relationship but aren't divorced. My mom is being abused by my dad. And because she is a trad-wife, she has nowhere to go now - not even her family due to other personal reasons. So, if she decided to divorce, she'll end up being homeless. She never had a job and can't even get a job now. She is stuck. Being a trad-wife is a trap, unless the man is perfect and stays true to his words, which doesn't really happen often.
that’s awful and i can see why the trad wife option left a bad taste in your mouth however most men aren’t abusing their wives luckily
@@pouncebounce how do you know this? I want proof that the majority of men are not abusing their wives.
@@julieb2398how do you have proof that most men are? You can’t, period. There’s a difference between qualitative vs quantitative data in BOTH arguments.
@@julieb2398 how do you know most women aren't abusing their husbands? How do you know most women aren't killing their children?
So basically it wasn't an actual traditional marriage then.
What happens when you get divorced, the man dies or develops an illness, cheats, becomes addicted to a substance, etc.. then what’s your backup plan without an advanced career or education? Are you 100% sure this won’t happen?
70% of Divorce is initiated by the women and women make up the largest percentage of those receiving government assistance and still remain financially dependent on tax funds or through some form of the husband. Women live in a protected society and if they didn’t they would not divorce and or act the way they do towards men. If banks failed and you laid off your job and killers/robbers coming for you can you as women survive without men? Can you building and operate sewage, cars, etc technology created and maintained by men? The answer is no.
@@7384ok incel ☕️
@@7384What?
If you want to be a tradwife, be a tradwife. If you want to be the CEO of your own company, go for it.
But the Tradwifes Make me feel embarrased for them 😅
@@Pam.uki.pathetic
@@Pam.uki. Why?
@Pame.Pamuki in other words you're jealous.
I would loveeee to be a trad wife
Errr no. Feminism isn’t simply about ‘choice’ and that’s the issue with pop feminism of the 2010s. Feminism is a political movement to dismantle patriarchy- it’s about not simply equality but EQUITY.
Choices are not made in a vacuum and if all of our choices ‘coincidentally’ align with some of the vilest strains of a patriarchal system then that’s a huge problem, and yes- maybe not judgement but critique and scrutiny should happen and that dialogue needs to take place.
Perfectly said Steph! It is absolutely NOT for me and makes me quite concerned for the mental health and safety of women and children. BUT I think it’s so important that if a woman wants this life they have the choice to do so. And in an ideal world with selfless and loving men, this could be a fulfilling way to live for many. I truly hope the women are respected, loved, and living happy lives because I’ll be at my dream job on Monday living the life I chose and love. We all deserve happiness 💕
It’s not for me, but I completely understand why it appeals to a different kind of woman. It could only be fulfilling if her husband doesn’t take advantage of her chosen role, and instead continues to encourage her to thrive as an individual.
Again, not for me but I get it. It’s a kind of rebellion against modernity.
Every woman has a right to be what they want to be, if someone wants to be a trad wife that’s okay, if someone doesn’t want to be a trad wife that’s okay, I don’t get the ppl who hate on others for choosing to be a grad wife, as long as they don’t force it on others that’s their right. And not everyone enjoys working tbh.
the problem is only men that want to take advantage of a woman would like this tradwife thing
finally someone who gets it lol. not everyone craves to be a slave to a corporate job for a boss who doesn’t give a shit about them
Homesteading is a rebellion against modernity. Homemaking with modern appliances and high materialism like most “trad” creators is as modern as it gets, it’s a modern luxury lifestyle.
@@soft-spunThe rebellion I suggested is against being a modern woman, ya know, who does it all with family roles and chooses to also have a career-it wasn’t so much about their appliances.
Completely aside of the traditional wives discussion, homesteading a true rebellion, I agree.
Honestly, if tradwife content exists, trad husband content needs to go alongside - that shows men respecting their wives, not cheating, spending more time with family vs at work. Why doesn’t that exist?
Because tradwife content is just porn, it is porn for 40 year old men in unhappy marriages or those who are still single
Love how you looked at things from both perspectives, Stephanie.
I don’t know why society tries to make it seem like people have to be one thing or the other. I mean why can’t people choose to pick and see the good in both sides?
At the end of the day it boils down to choice and whatever works best for people and their families
I come from a place where such tradwife values are forcibly pinned on all women. Seeing this reemerge in places where I tend to think are more progressive makes me cringe a bit
me too, I live in the thick of mormon country.
You sound miserable 😂❤
I'm actually really glad you brought up that last part bc that's how i feel sometimes! I have a full time job as a woman and yet im still expected to keep the house tidy and cook. While yes, we do divide the chores and finances somewhat equally, as a woman, I still feel the need to keep everything tidy anyways (so when he goes to clean his areas, they are already 90 percent done), he also doesn't know how to cook as well as me. As well as working as a women in the workforce i am, for a fact, working more time in the office for less money than my partner makes doing his job. So im working harder and longer hours for less money as well as dividing everything "equally". I could see how it would be appealing to quit my job and stay home.
but in the modern world this is impossible.
therefore, what traditional wives preach is wealth, not tradition
Calling aging your “wise woman years” is so lovely! I adore that 🥰
THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD! Stephanie, you are a legend! You went through both sides of the argument so well.
Are those women serious? Or it is ironic? That is horrible 🙈 there is never okey if one is submissive to the other one, partnership should be equal.
I'm a Christian and want to be a SAHM + housewife and I'm very willing to be submissive to my husband, but this is extreme😭Never in a million years will I let my husband tell me what to think, thats degrading as heck and I'm a human to. Not only that but it's perfectly fine to depend on someone, but its also important to have some sort of backup plan just in case things go south or if your spouse becomes hurt and is unable to provide. Like I wanna be a SAHM but I'm also going to college for a degreee.
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Apostle Paul told men to love their wifes like Jesus loves his ecclesia. Now that is commitment ❤️ I don't think someone can love his woman and see her as a slave or house maid at the same time.
And the advice is to remember how hard and distracting starting your own family is and we don't have to have that if we don't want to.
Same!! I'm also planning on becoming a house wife, but am first getting my degree in teaching. If my husband get ill for a long period, losses his job or the economy just gets way more out of hand I can step in and enter the work force again. I told my boyfriend I don't want to move in together unless he's lived by himself for at least a year (he's 23 and just moved into his new place. Housing market is unltra bad rn) i haven't told him, but my main reason is so he independently learns how to cook, clean, manage money and other 'wifely duties' so if i would get sick he would take on my tasks. Ain't no way I'll let myself hear 'i don't know how to do that' while I'm severly sick. Luckily my bf is amazing and just understands when i request something
@@old_yeller4251 That's super smart! Sounds like you got everything planned out girl, I'm happy 4 you! ❤
Christian marital standards and values rub people the wrong way because when done right, it exposes they're faulty and failed attempts at doing it they're way vs. Gods original design. Feminism will have you thinking you're a slave if you work to take care of your husband and kids, but not a slave if u spend your life working for a corporation lol 😂 let the I-pads and TV raise your kids instead. Leave your house a mess. Forget your husband. Get that bag girl! 💰 smh. Big daddy corporations deserve your utmost loyalty first and foremost!
This is just reverse psychology. A new style of ”trad wife” is really the one in control 😂 she’s sending her boy out to work. lol. Frankly this trad wife trend is probably more rooted in fetishism. I was a lucky wife, I did work but in creative pursuits like belly dance and martial arts instruction. I raised the kids stayed home, cleaned it…the late husband made bank, and loved to grocery shop. 👍🏻
I've heard tradwives described as BDSM master/slave relationships with no safe words.
Seems fairly accurate.
I just finished reading For the Love of Men by Liz Plank and it made so much sense as to why women seek simpler lives where they are homemakers and mothers and that’s it, and why men, especially ones that are so hands-off in child rearing overcommit to work and making money and hardly know their kids or help raise them or clean house without instructions from their partners. When men get paid paternal leave, the partnerships become more equal and less abusive.
They can take care of their kids while they work,women do it all the time, I thought men were logical and stronger than women, but it's sounding like they are just adult children
@@purplelove3666 if you would read the book for the love of men, you’d understand how the lack of paternal leave after having a child affects how much men actually participate in parenting
The editing on this video is excellent, you’re getting so good! ❤
Is this not the same video that was put up last week?
glad someone noticed too because I was thinking I was having déjà vu
Being a tiktoker or youtuber isn't traditional at all 😅
Heck, I don't even like treating my dog this way. Dogs don't have to be raised as beaten drones for their owners to be seen as good "pets". My dog is my friend and I will treat them as such. I can't even imagine ever treating a person the same way people tend to badly treat dogs.
I dont know what to think. It seems like these women dont want responsibilities of adult life. Its like still being dependant on your parents. The husband makes money, decides all the important stuff, gives her allowance…when the husband gets seriously ill, bankrupt, divorces her or dies, the reality will hit her hard - and unfortunately the kids too. I also dont like the difference between men and women working - men are “providing for the family” while women “pursue a career”. Like guys where do you think working women put their money, we got bills to pay😅
Years ago my car pool discussed an Ann Landers advice column. There was a letter from a husband who was disappointed in his wife’s slacking off in the domestic department. She had one or two toddlers and a set of four month old twins. She was behind on sewing buttons back on his shirts. She also didn’t bake as much homemade bread as she used to. The whole car pool thought the husband was nuts. Guess what? The other two car pool members were men!😊
Well Idk about those content creating “trad wives” but I’m simply a stay at home mom because daycare is crazy expensive in my city. I would just be working a mediocre paying job and seeing very little of my child if I wasn’t. I love being with my baby and getting to see all of her milestones. I guess I just don’t get the obsession with posting this tradwife way of life or their kids all over social. Shouldn’t they be enjoying their lives and not just trying to convince the world that they are?…
The dumbest thing about this movement is that they don’t even know what it really means and that them being “influencers” is a direct violation of the entire out dated ideas they are pushing 😅. They are still able to express themselves and have an online career. A voice. Something to keep them busy outside of the housework. Cause guess what. Times have changed and there’s no way you are still ok with doing actually nothing but be a housewive 😂. The ignorance and hypocracy is real on this one 😂