Adding a Scupper to my Plastic Boat
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2018
- This is not meant to be an exact method for you to copy. More as a proof of concept. There are definitely much better ways to plastic weld then I demonstrate in this video. And you WILL void your warranty if you do this. Many Pelican boats are guaranteed for life, so it is something to consider. But if you are tired of bailing out your boat and are a courageous do-it-yourselfer, this might be exactly the inspiration you're looking for.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who hates having to remove the plastic from the hole saw!
I save the plastic, in case I need to use it for repairs.
Fearlessly modding your toys. The very reason I subscribed. Bravo.
I love your videos. Always so peaceful and relaxing.
Good video Marty. Still the King of DIY!
Nice video Marty . Wishing you the best on your new business.
your videos are very helpful. I appreciate the commentary.
Very nicely done truly enjoy these diy parts to the channel.
Thanks for the great idea. Wish I did something like that years ago. I will be doing this to mine real soon. Keep the great videos coming !
You're awesome bro. You push through 'boundries' 👍🙌
You are a brave man Marty.. good job
Good test and great idea to try out. I hope that Pelican is watching some of our videos to make these improvements to new models in the future. I have been out in my Raider almost everyday and its so fun to see what you can do on these little boats.
well hopefully Pelican Boats watch your videos, so they can see this issue. and maybe they will add that to all of the newer Bass Raiders.
this was my thought as well. Marty is a one man think tank for Pelican.
They don't give a fuck. They know ppl use rhem one year and get tired of the shit
@@noway57 tired of being on the water? Poor folks
The 2013 model had one in that spot.
Nice video and I watch all the way from Australia
Nice video Marty ! You always seem to have a good idea 💡 when it comes to DIY ! Big risk great reward. No more rain 🌧 holding in the boat!
Great video! Watching you and this bass raider makes me want one so bad for the pond fishing that I do.
One of the best . Thanks Zoff ...
Nice! Can't wait to visit!
Nice Idea. Enjoyed the video. I normally just put my Raider up on it's side to store it. But good to see what others are doing. Fish on!
The humor in this video is just my favorite.
Great Video.... Love the idea. I will definitely do this to mine. Keep up the good work.
Marty i have the same boat and when the water fills to the height of where the power wires go through the hull this is where the water gets in the inside hull . I have thought about doing something like that but i couldn`t stand to cut that big of hole in mine so my next alternative was to put a Bilge pump with a automatic float switch but also my boat doesn`t sit in the water everyday . Thanks Marty for putting my mind at ease about drilling a big hole.
Hi Marty, long time subscriber and fan. Here’s a video I found that might work next time you install a scupper. It’s a self draining self sealing diy scupper. Keep up the good videos, love watching them.
Hey that is pretty ingenious! I was thinking about it for a while and thought of a little bit more of a modification. If you could install a check valve and add a 90° fitting to the bottom it would actually suck the water out when you are underway and not let water flow in when stationary. I love how you do modifications on things.
Scroll up and look at my loooong comment same concept.
Worked well. Marty I'm ready for a kon-Tiki trip with the pups ,but we all can't have everything lol .Hope you and the pups are well take care.
Very smart Marty! I store my bass raider upside down. And when it's in the truck ready to go out in the morning and it fills up with water from sitting out all night I take a long rubber hose and syphon it out and let gravity do the work
How is it that you being such a smart and modest guy with so much good content in your videos only has 140K subs?
Been following you for a minute now and just love your channel. Keep following your dreams and don't change your content. I live in Pompano Beach, Fla, but someday I'd like to visit Zoffingers
Awesome Marty ! Good Diy Video ! Really like the new place man . Hopefully I will get by there to show you how to use the lures I sent ! Happy trails ,,,,,,, Tight lines ! The Brotha from a different Mutha !!!!!!
Me and all the other hardcore Zoffinger fans pick up our tablet or phone after getting home and see this notification and immediately have an aneurysm. Great video Marty, great diy to!!!!!🚤🚤🚤
Classic Zoffinger. This is why I sub!
This is the difference between the one piece Bass Hunter and everyone else. You can't beat one solid piece construction.
I have owned my Pelican Bassraider 10e for 2 years and have never had such a problem. Got mine set up with a casting deck up front, a foot controlled bow mount trolling motor, an adjustable swivel deck seat, quick deploy anchor/winch set up, and many other extras. Pelican should not change a single thing about this boat.
except the price
Marty love these video's
You can make your Scupper self bailing by putting a reverse scoop on it (underneath)
To describe it... imagine if you were to cut off the bottom of a toy plastic boat and then cut the stern off of that and then glue it around the Scupper hole bow forward. As water flows by it will create suction and any water that's in the boat will actually get sucked out.
I had that type of drain on my 66 lone star aluminum boat and if you forgot to put in the drain plug. You simply start the boat and take off and all the water got sucked out the bottom and you then put the plug back in. I learned that half way across the lake when I stopped and water came rushing in... I took off back to the dock and it was empty less than half way back. I put the plug in while moving and headed back out to the lake. Someone in the 60's was a smart SOB!
I found a link... 20 seconds in it shows the drain bottom.
czcams.com/video/yNwipVmfC7M/video.html
I had an older bass raider 10e and it came with the through hull scupper. I find it wierd they stopped putting them in them. But hey you fixed your problem in true Marty fashion I like it
Thanks. My pelican odysee 10x needs a scupper for the storage bay. I love pelicans because you can buy them used ,super cheap, and then diy modify them like crazy. Theyre the "model T" of kayaks.
It’s always scary drilling holes in the boat! Lol
I catch so many bass in this little Bass Raider boat in the canals of South Florida.
The Happy Gilmore reference @ 4:57 😂😂
3:08 omg that just made my day
Way to throw caution to the wind... I remember my guts turning when I drilled ports for my electronics... ATAK 140 lights up nice... keep rocking the DYI! Thanks
Love your vid
two paths diverge in the woods....me : i took the one less traveled by....and that has made all the difference. welcome to our club my friend.
Very interesting 🤙
love the videos i just got one of these boats for Christmas and i wanted to add bro craft launch wheels to it i thought i could add a piece of plywood on back of transom to reinforce it but worry that i dont know exactly where the plywood transom is in the boat and dont want to miss it and damage my transom any thoughts as to its size or postion
thanks loved the 3 engine build
tim
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY!! And here is a brand new video about it... *plays x-files theme*
I work on hot tubs. We use a plastic welder in some applications. The product we use is devcon. Works really well to bond plastic pic.
Pvc
Looks like the transom is kinked???
Also by drilling the hole, doesn’t u run the risk of the floor n subfloor to flex? If so are u not concerned of the weld to crack upon the flexing?
I got a cheap wood burning kit from harbor freight. works perfect for your plastic welding jobs. more direct. I used mine to plastic weld a part in my truck.
3:10 lol That was a good fix. A tarp over it would have just filled up with water. My mooring cover is useless that way, unless I add some kind of tent frame to hold it up. Even my Hobie gets water in the hull, and it HAS scuppers. Condensation, and rain seeps in. The irritating thing about it is that the drain plug is on the back end instead of the front, so you can't put it on end to drain because the rudder is in the way. Maybe I'll drill a hole in the front...
A bulkhead with rubber gasket on both sides may have done well since the surface was so flat. Would look "clean" at least on to top side. Definitely needed anyway you went about it. Pelican should add to future boat.
Hey Marty first I wanna say Thanks for your videos they're really cool! Second in this "Scupper hole" video I noticed in the back ground on the dock there are a couple round looking things with chairs on them. What are they and do you have videos about them? If not Can you do a video about them? Thanks and keep doin you!
Z-Man from P-Town
Bawahaha! A "That's what she said" and a "Not Today". Thanks for the laugh, Marty.
Harbor freight sells a plastic welding kit that works awsome.2 styles one hot air and one soldering iron style.they also sell the rods to weld with
Could of sworn you said "Standard size butt-plug" hahaha!!Great content as always
I was looking at a bass raider but being 308 pounds do you think id have to sit up front with a long motor arm extension? anyway love your DIY way to solve problems im currently looking into building pontoons for my kayak out of HDPE Bollard covers
When you put the batteries in the back and it started filling with water I was hoping you'd fire the motor up because I think if you were moving it would have sucked the water back out but I could be wrong. I know on the back of a lot of boats, example aluminum jon boats have plugs that you can access from inside the boat while you're actually moving and if you fill your boat up with rainwater for example you simply run the motor with the plug out and it will suck the water right out of it. Now I realize those are in the back of the boat which is better for suction but I think there would be still suction on the bottom of the boat possibly somewhat dependent on the angle of the boat.
Very good mod mate
Maybe to keep even the smallest bit of water from coming in while you’re driving and sitting in it put a plug in the hole and when you are done with it pulled the plug out so the water can drain
nice job
Have a set on Kayak and I have about ten oles like that built in when I bought it. I never run plugs.
Cool Marty
On your bass raider... I noticed u have a Coleman motor . What is the HP rating of that motor? Do you notice transom flex when you open it up? If you had reduce that flex how would you go about doing it??
When you put a trolling motor box hold down brackets. Did you use the screws that came in box and rtv under brackets to eliminate water entering. Or did you use longer screws? I believe there's a plywood reinforcement that longer screws will screw into. Love your videos. Would love to come down and visit you soon.
very informative
lojo.fishing hey lojo cool to see you here i watch all your vids
Yea informative in what not to do? Or how to ruin a perfectly good boat?? He should of just drilled the hole and sealed it with a plug the right way. Non of that melting crap that looks horrible and didn’t even work.
Looks pretty sharp Marty... Good work for DIY project... Make sure you silicone water seal the bond around the inside layer for extra protection...
Salt Water / Nature Intrusion is very unforgiving as you well know...🌊💦💧
I don't think silicone will stick to the weird plastic these boats use. I would try using flanged pipe.
How fast does that go you think, Marty? Ive got a 5 hp on my solo skiff
and i get about 16 mph
Time to purchase a plastic welder Marty!!
got to get one of them Sawhorses ??? nice job Like it .
In Canada we use scupper holes in boats for ice fishing.
We don't waste holes in boats.
Just need bigger scuppers for bigger fish
Wow! So the water actually gets into the seals and into the pontoons? I thought this boat was all one piece but I guess not. Now, when you’re out on the water, will the water come through the seals and fill up the pontoons with water? I was thinking about buying a pelican. Thanks.
I wish you’d trick out the Raider like you did your first kayak and do videos of the process.
Marty, I see it's been several years since you added the scupper drain. Has there been any issues, and, did the Polyethylene pipe actually stick to the RAM-X material and stay bonded with no leaks? If so, that same pipe material might work well for hot patching holes if the materials bond to one another.
My Bass Raider is sitting on it's side out back just because of the water. Can you id where the water gets from out and in between the clam shell, inside by foamed area? That is what irritates me with the boat. Thanks for DIY, as I have the stuff to do this and make the boat sea worthy again. I have found that an inch of rain will put more than an inch inside the boat when laying flat (like on the trailer). This will definitely help. tnx- Bill in WTx
Your outboard motor is it a 5 horses power have you seen any good used ones anywhere I have same kinda of boat.
Very cool! Did you test by filling with water from a hose to see if it drains (on land and in the water)? In our old Boston Whaler, we could have six inches of water ("Hey, who forgot to put the plug in?!") in the boat and as soon as we fired up and started forward it would drain fairly quickly. Greetings from NYC!
That would be a good test!
Kayakers, especially with a Hobie Pro Angler are well familiar with scupper plugs.
Great idea.
Instead of welding with heat, is there an adhesive or epoxy designed for plastic that would work?
Just an idea.
Epoxy doesn't have UV rating, meaning it won't last a long time in the sun.
Welding is still the best method because polyethylene is hard to adhere to. Here is some more good info: www.permabond.com/2015/03/31/prepare-bond-polyethylene/
Have you tried heating the screwdriver rather than aiming the torch at what you are working on , it has worked well for me in the past , i have also had two on the go , one heating while i use the other , basically you have a constant flow . hope you don't mind me mentioning that , great vid as always , Thanks , Baz :)
I put swim noodles in mine the way I did it was to cut up the noodles and push them into the hull though the holes for my rod holders
I have a pond prowler and it has a drain in the back and I don't even have a plug. It drains out good
Good idea. Just a little sloppy. You do everything with perfection, I was surprised. I have a paddle boat similar to your other one that I put a two car battery electric minkota on. I bottom painted it to leave it in the salt water. Put a fish finder and Bimini on it. Trouble is it fills up every rain. I have to hook up a temporary bilge pump to empty it. I am looking for another solution. Wish I could send photos. Many people ask me to make them one, but it's a labor of love ❤.....
Awesome idea but a bluck head fitting with a plug woulf work too :)
I have a video you can try doing. I have a 8.6 pelican kayak. It's a sit on and not really meant for fishing but that's how I'm setting it up. I've been looking at motors. I still need to test to make sure my kayak can handle the weight on the back because the kayak is to short for a side mount and doesn't trec straight. But this video gave me an idea. What if I was to get a pipe large enough for the motor shaft to fit through and do a center mounted motor like Hobie yaks . Same concept as you scupper hole but bigger . Hey hit me up and let me know what you think.
Hey Marty or anyone they may own one of these. Incase of mechanical failure how difficult is the bass raider to paddle?
My cousin has this very same boat and he has to store it upside down but he made a trail with 4x4 post to keep it off the ground
Great idea, what has Pelican said about inhaling the melted Bass Raider?
That's what she said.... 🤣😅😂 I see. Good one. 🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿
Do some Pelicans of that model come with a scupper or drain hole in that spot? It looks like the plastic may be molded in that area to accept one. Either way, it's sure a great upgrade!
are you against using any adhesive or epoxy? you make me wanna build a kayak
Use a soldering iron with a flat tip to plastic weld, much easier to control where the heat will be and eliminates the need for the screwdriver.
I'm surprised that boat isn't foam filled from the factory. You could probably drill a few holes and fill it with A/B foam to prevent it from filling up to begin with.
Another thought you might wanna look into plastic welding solvents like the SCIGRIP line. No heat required. Takes some practice but it's amazing stuff.
3:09 hahahaha
Great Idea..Why not use Epoxy ???
Threaded thru hull adaptor. 2 gaskets and one plastic nut.
Its nice to not have a gas tank taking up room in the boat. that's a sweet set up
Hopefully those batteries weren’t charged 😬. Excellent video though as always Marty!
You could put an bottom half duck bill peice to weld on the bottom too.
Well what was a question to me is now answered. I'm big guy and I wanted well want one of them boat. Being disabled can't take bog boats out anymore. I lovey Jon boat but don't like the middle seat rather have walk thru. Being my knees are bad bad. So I want to roundabout bad love the way there made roll to the water lol. But way out my budget. A kayak can't use due to my knees and back and I'm big guy. So wanted boat like that. But being big guy 365 or so didn't no if I could use one. Well yeah that went way down but if I add my gear to the front that will help. But I'm not useing motor be trolen motor on the front or back maybe I can sit in the middle and will work even better. Just want small boat easy to load unload and pull if have to pull on shore. So thanks for the plug idea and adding so much weight. Awesome vidoe. Now to find one I can afford but man really love to have a roundabout boat be a dream come true. Have a good weekend sir. God bless
I want a tight fit……that’s what she said 😂🤣🤪😅 best part of the vid!
I'm liking this video purely for the transition shot at 4:53