Honda 1.5t head gasket issues continued…
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if someone 30 years ago found this future video in honda acura !!! they would think this is prank. im serious.
I believe that.
The people who say you're not an engineer should be glad you're not...they are the ones who came up with this faulty design and have done nothing to correct it. Thanks for being in the trenches and letting us know what is really going on!
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Just got my 2018 Honda Accord back yesterday from the dealer after 3 weeks. I had all of the signs mentioned in this video and my Honda dealer first said it was bad fuel injectors, I had told them I thought it was the head gasket. They replaced the injectors but the issue was still happening and they finally diagnosed the head gasket as being blown. I ordered the studs recommended here. The dealer felt back they got it wrong and contacted Honda who agreed to replace it for free. Given my car had just 5 years and 1 month with just under 59k miles. I now have a new head gasket and new injectors $0 cost. I just paid for the oil change (has oil dilution issue) and new rotors. Going forward will be putting in premium gas and going to change the oil every 3k miles. I like my car, I just wish Honda would have a recall and fix this issue once and for all. Take responsibility Honda, you can do it.
Sorry u went through this but it sounds like your dealership responded in the right way and admitted their misdiagnosis.
I have a 2020 1.5t sport that i like but and hate the 1.5t and cvt. Didnt know about the powertrain issues when i bought it so i am doing everything i can to baby it and be way aggressive about the maintenance.
Sorry for hearing about your experience and happy the dealer/honda are going to finally handle it.
@@WhereHasMySanityGone that’s about all you can do on your end. Wish you the best.
I agree with your comment. In other words make me a happy customer. Stand behind the product and fix it. How many customers will leave honda . Honda use to build the best engines in the world.
@@BCautosolutions Thank you. I appreciate the great and honest info you share on this channel. Keep it up!!!
Thanks! You are providing Honda owners great information and it is appreciated!
Thank you!
Thanks for keeping us up on all the issues to look for in these cars! About a year ago, I traded my VW on a Civic Sport 2.0 after 25 years of owning VWs. Wanted to give Honda a try, and so far I love it, although I sometimes wish I'd opted for the manual. Had the sticky steering issue since about 4K miles, and finally the service tech experienced it after about 3 visits to the dealer! 😀 The new steering rack should be installed around April. Just hope the new unit isn't the same one as the original one. And I'm keeping the oil changed every 4-5 K miles. Thanks again for all you do to help us informed! 💪🏻
@@ericmathis3479 congrats and best of luck. Thanks for the kind words
You're 110% qualified to be commenting on reliability! Stop with the "I'm not an engineer". The only engineers at Honda who would have a clue are the select few working this exact thing. And look what they did. Their only defense is that it was calculated cost saving and is expected. But somehow I doubt it was expected. And if it was, then Honda has changed for the worse.
Also think a lot of it has to due with epa regulations and Honda trying to meet them with small displacement engines so this debacle came to fruition 😅
The Honda service center near me gets 10-15 a week like this. And the price is about $6k.
Makes me love the k24 and j35 all the more
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As a master mechanic i can attest that Honda needs to address this major issue ASAP! We're getting loads of 1.5 accords with this problem. Some as low as 40k miles! 😡
Exactly what I’ve been preaching.
2.0 naturally aspirated port injected beauty for me. Gonna baby it for 20 years if I can
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Im glad i bought the extended warranty to 150,000 miles. Great content thank you!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for your updates to the Honda cars! Your information is very useful and helps us understand these common problems we have both the civic and crv with this 1.5t and I know what to expect… Cheers and thank you!
Thanks for watching and best of luck!
Really appreciate all the tips and advice. Watching my 2020 1.5t accord like a hawk 👀. 2.0s are tough to find and $$$ so doing the best i can to make the most of it.
Best of luck with it!
Keeping an eye on my 2018 as well!!!!! 125k miles and running strong. I’m so worried about this happening. I have 7 payments left!
@@obxguy1 best of luck!
I just got a 2024 1.5t,1k miles so far and I absolutely love it. It drives like butter(obviously a new car) I have pumped 91 since the day I got it (thanks for the heads up)
Thank you for sharing your findings. I will keep you posted
Congrats and best of luck
Thanks for all the years of good info!
Thank you sir!
Not sure what happened in 2018 but lord, I have owned seven Hondas over the years. Currently 2020 Accord Sport 2.0T 10 Speed Auto with 86K miles (80% highway on it). It runs as well now as it did the day I drove off the lot. It has never given me a problem and I have done all my maintenance early. I drive it responsibly (not like a sports car) I just liked the color and body style. I want it to last 200K as I paid it off in 3 years 🙂
EPA agenda big time
Paid cash for my 2012 civic Si hoping it will be in a museum someday. Have loved all my Honda’s.
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Appreciate the tips and info.
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Thanks for sharing. Very good informative information. Great getting info from a certified Honda mechanic. 👍
many thanks for the valuable information
Thanks for watching!
Keep up the great work
Thank you
Thanks for the update. 2023 Integra here. 24,000 miles
Best of luck! Lmk if anything comes up (hopefully not)
Thanks for continuing to post all your knowledge, as a result of working on these cars. Some of the below has already been discussed in previous shorts and vids, but this is what I'm seeing are contributing factors, some not previously mentioned:
1) 87 octane, in combination with owners using non-top tier gasoline. The low octane min requirement in Accord, CR-V results in more folks filling up 87 at the non-branded top tier stations, in an effort to save every penny, as those stations are cheaper and these owners are largely more sensitive to cost than say a Civic SI owner, willing to fill up 91 or higher. Lower quality fuels are not myth, fuels are not created equal, using them has consequences.
2) Extended oil change intervals or following the in-car oil life monitor. Because we know DI engines are more susceptible to LSPI, a factor in causing this is the oil leftover that the scraper rings on the pistons can't get all off. The older and dirtier the oil, the more it contributes to LSPI and other pre-ignition events.
3. NOT running a catch-can or oil separator. There are folks who can dismiss the usefulness of these till the cows come home. Bottom line, even if they don't get every drop, they work. And, frankly, especially in colder ambient temps like winter, much more fuel and blowby collects. Not to mention preventing the caking-on of all this on the backside of the intake valves due to the flaw of DI - the more unmetered fluids like dirty oil, products of combustion and fuel enter the combustion chamber, what happens? Reduced effective octane, thus leading to or promoting LSPI or pre-detonation.
Up here in Canada, we're running two 1.5T Accord Sports, one with 40k miles and another with 15k miles (converted from km for our friends stateside). We're changing oil every 3k miles, filling up at min 89 octane at all top tier stations, and running Mishimoto catch cans (which have to be emptied every week or every two weeks, in the winter. So far, so good.
You summed it up very nicely. I think your one of the few on the right track to having a long lasting 1.5t. Best of luck and would welcome updates from time to time. The more info the better. 🫡
@@BCautosolutions Thanks, keep up the great content it's MUCH appreciated!
@@errrky thank you and will do
Have you had any issues with your catch-can freezing up in winter? That's been my biggest concern and the reason why I haven't used one. Coming up on 100k and strictly use High octane/top tier fuel as well as keeping to 3k mile oil changes in the winter (3-5k in summer) and zero issues so far. My civic sport does state to use premium fuel. Unfortunately many people ignore it and the myth of high octane/top tier being a scam persists heavily.
@@johnnyolson258 I know what you mean regarding the misconception about fuels, folks that still have them, it will be at their detriment. Absolutely no issues with the catch cans freezing in the 4-5 years we've been running them. This is because they are collecting a lot of fuel and oil vapour mostly, not excessive amounts of condensation. FYI - we're in the GTA Toronto area for notes on climate.
Initially when I was shopping for an Accord a few years ago I was planning on a new 1.5T Sport, but I’m feeling fortunate that I found a used 2.0T Touring instead. And not just because of the extra features I got out of it 😬 saving money on gas would have been cool but I’ll gladly take the more reliable powertrain. Hoping I can get many more years and miles out of it 👍🏻
You most certainly made the right choice for multiple reasons. Retaining value is going to be one of those.
Even the dudes running 93, using the finest full synth oils and driving like grandmas in many of the accord groups are still having their head gaskets fail.
Yes, that’s true, just something to prolong the issues from occurring sooner/faster, some people even can go decent mileage.
I just bought a 2019 2.0 6 speed super rare with 23k on it been looking for two years finally found one and best thing it’s blue and local all stock 😎
You found yourself a unicorn 💯. Congrats
I have a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 1.5 and it's misfiring after changing the spark plugs, coil packs and replacing the Fuel Injectors @ $1200.00. I have 98,000 miles on it and always had it serviced, but unfortunately, I believe I'm dealing with a blown Head gasket now. Incredibly frustrating especially with Honda not taking care of the issues so many owners are having with these head gaskets. To top that off now there is a RECALL for the fuel pump, and they are saying it won't be until June here in NC were I'm from until they can get the parts in, but they have the parts in stock, but they are for the newer cars and the one for the RECALL haven't come in yet. INSANITY!!! What has happened to HONDA QUALITY and RELIABILITY!!! That's why I went with the ACCORD, and it has turned out to be the worst car I have ever purchased BRAND NEW!!! Dealer is wanting $4500.00 for Head gasket replacement. I'm definitely looking elsewhere for a better quote and trustworthiness.
We are facing the same issues here. I did a fuel pump on Friday on the older batch of affected cars but cannot do them on the new batch as of yet. We don’t expected parts for most of them until late summer/early fall. I would definitely find a more affordable, reputable shop to replace that hg. Best of luck!
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Thanks for your info. I also watched your other video. Are you starting to see an increase in blown head gaskets in other models that use the 1.5T engine? I understand they are all "tuned" differently but are they all built the same? Thanks.
Accords have the most failures followed by civic and cr-v.
Thanks for all your videos and information! I have a 2018 1.5T with about 55,000 miles. I switched over to 93 octane after seeing your first video when I was around 48,000 miles. I try not to exceed 2000 rpm until the car is fully warmed up, use fuel injector cleaner / fuel system cleaner every oil change, and pop the hood to check my coolant levels in the reservoir every fill up. I assume the head gasket failure is gradual and that carbon buildup must be part of the problem, affecting the fuel injectors and then misfires / pre-ignition / detonations and then the gasket blows. So far, everything is fine. I have a CPO warranty until next year so at least I'm covered a little longer. Hopefully, driving light and running 93 will keep me out of trouble.
Yes for sure carbon buildup can cause that scenario and can most definitely be a contributing factor. Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
Thank you for the informative video. I have been using 93 octane on my 24 CRV
@@umairahmad6261 awesome!
Sounds like that car owns you, not the other way around😢
hey i appreciate this video as we've bought our lease on our 2020(considering that absurd prices honda dealership is charging for the new gen) so far, i haven't experienced any of the "symptoms" you mentioned on the previous video, aside from those is there a more tangible way of finding out the condition of the headgasket? also whileour crv is a very low milage car (around 15k rn, leased at 2020, middle of lockdown) its gonna be 5 years next year, is there any benefit on maybe replacing the headgasket by then as opposed to waiting for it to fail?
Do Honda dealerships perform headstand upgrade service with ARP studs or is that something I need to have done at a shop. I have a modified 22 Si that I track so I want to make the motor as bullet proof as I can. Also do they require a new gasket or can it be done without lifting the head. Thanks
I have a 18 Accord EXL 1.5t, havent had a injector or gasket problem yet..Had rodent damage and had to get the engine rewired. Got the condenser recall done, waiting to get the fuel pump recall done as well..I have been using regular fuel but getting oil changes every 3-4k miles
Thanks for sharing
Really appreciate the effort you put into these videos! One question for you, for those folks that take their car in and are told they need to replace the injectors when doing a faulty head gasket replacement, what is the purpose of the injectors being replaced? It is due to them being clogged, or some other actual failure?
Appreciate it! Yes the injectors typically have carbon buildup on the tips.
Thanks for continuing to highlight this. I am also a Honda fanboy but part of being a fanboy is wanting the best for the company you root for. They can do better on this.
Agreed, I can love the company although I can also admit when a product they have is sub par.
I have a 2018 1.5 accord, and this is actually keeping me up at night! I have 125k on mine. Change oil & filter every 3-4k with pennzoil platinum 0w20. Check and top off coolant reservoir as needed. I have 7 payments left and this repair would be terrible as I don’t have thousands of dollars laying around.
Hoping for the best for you! Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
I feel like if a cars making you lose sleep, get rid of it. I just had to do the same to my bmw, got it with 40k miles oil changed every 3k miles or less on the carfax, thought I was gonna have a nice second car for years to come. Well it got a timing chain lawsuit for the n20 engines even though mine had been perfectly maintained I couldn’t stop thinking about how it’s just gonna grenade itself, took a loss getting rid of it at 66k miles, but I sleep much better now, at least still have my Acura TSX 2.4 that has never let me down. Now I’m looking for a good second car that won’t give me a headache along with it.
Obviously a timing chain failure is much worse then a head gasket especially if you catch it before the car overheats badly so idk if that’s as much of a worry.
@@cartere9981 i agree, anything that keeps you up at night needs to go. Thanks for sharing your story and sorry to hear.
Get rid of it. My civic has 1.5t and the gasket just started going bad at 170k. Started skipping across the road. Also needs a new engine harness because the wires to the turbo “split and melted.”
The octane issue, totally agree 👍👍👍👏👏👏. No way regular fuel octane number, in a turbo charged engine with such compression ratio is safe!! Thanks Brian for sharing the comparison specially for the acura integra vs honda si with different recommendation! God bless!!
🙌 thanks for watching!
Absolutely incredible that a great company, like Honda, would put out such a glaring design flaw. We are living in different times…
Agreed
@@BCautosolutions I just bought a very low mileage 2021 Turbo Hatch. I’m an “old school” Mustang nut. Never liked the idea of boosted, small displacement, engines. But, I love Hondas (that little hatch, in particular). I really like the purely Japanese look of that body style (the latest ones look more like a BMW:(. I’m going to enjoy that little car, maintain it well, and hope for the best. Appreciate the info…
@@68orangecrate26 congrats and best of luck with it
I Know Over In Europe and Australia (Not Sure About Japan), Their Regular Fuel Starts At 100 Octane. So I Think Your Assessment About The Pre-Detonation Is Absolutely Correct and The Easiest and Most Cost Effective Way to Prevent It Is Simply to Put At Least 91 Octane Fuel In These 1.5ts Or Any DI Car! Good, Quality Fuel and Oil Will Always Be Cheaper Than Replacing The Head Gasket Or Motor!
Europe and North America have a different octane rating scale. In North America regular starts at 87. In Europe, when I've been there, it typically starts at 95. 100 octane in Europe with be either premium or super.
@@schifoso I Apologize For Being Wrong, My Bad!
@@artisanwolf2068 Not really wrong - more like close.
I was surprised when I first saw their pumps octane ratings and thought "no wonder their has prices are so high - they all run premium gas".
Sometimes other countries use Research Octane Number, whereas the USA uses RM/2. The RM/2 scale often had 3 points lower than RON. However, that still means there is lower octane here. In addition, California 91 has a bunch of stuff that isn't gasoline. It is supposed to reduce smog. The gasoline is absolute garbage. My dad lived there in the 1980s, and said that every car ran badly on it. It didn't matter if you had the best computerized engine, or could fool around with carbs and mechanical advance distributors.
Us octane reading and other countries are different although good practice is to use highest available octane in whatever country or state is available to you. Thanks for sharing.
Also to touch on the discrepancy on the octane use, my cars manual, a 2020 Civic EX shows two recommendations based on having a sport mode or not. It says with a sport mode on the 1.5T, use 91.
Didn’t even pick that up, I’ll have to look for myself. Thanks 🙌
Does the 2.0 have the same issues? I have 2021 touring 2.0
I asked the question below on the first thread and I guess this one answers it. Even with a replacement of the head gasket and injectors I can expect it to happen again in time unless I replace with better head bolts. "Just got diagnosed with the injector and head gasket problems on a 2017 Honda CRV with 129,000 miles. Too bad I am $9K out of the Honda Care extended warranty and about a year out of the Extended Exhaust Warranty of 6 years/unlimited miles. I will get the work done and see if Honda would support any Goodwill on the repair $'s. I have owned many Honda's in a 60 years of driving and the most important need for us is reliability. My question is after the repair can I expect that the same problems could come up again or do the replacement parts only get the car back in operation but not address the root cause such that higher reliability might be expected?"
Yes, unfortunately we have seen repeat customers come back. Hopefully Honda can pick up some of the tab for you since you have been extremely loyal.
Honestly, my ‘18 Si has 65,000 miles every scheduled maintenance has been performed by the dealer on time and I change the oil every 3,500 miles and use only 91 to 93 octane. A vehicle is an investment and I keep them forever once they’re paid off, if you take maintenance serious as a heart attack you can avoid a lot of headaches. I’ve been keeping a close eye on my head gasket and if and when it goes I’ll be ready to fix it.
Absolutely agreed
01 civics are notorious for blown head gaskets, I've decided to avoid anything less than 2.0s
Yep, they sure are.
Does that groove actually provide any function, or can you potentially weld into that and sand/file it flat or fill/sand it with extreme temp JB weld?
Thank you for your videos. I’m super upset this 2022 1.5 Honda accord is the 4th accord I’ve owned and it will be the last unfortunately. I’m so disappointed with Honda now.
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2017 honda accord with the 2.4 I run that thing 100+ mph never uses or burns a drop of oil. ❤
Great engines
What do you think would the preventative steps cost approximately at a dealer? for example replacing studs
Replacing the bolts with studs would run 2k+
Thank you for your honesty. That's why I've given up on Honda vehicles.
What have you moved on to?
@@BCautosolutions Toyota Camry and Toyota Land Cruiser
@@BIGHAMZA nice, congrats and hope they are treating you well 🙌
Best advertisment for a Toyota Corolla I've ever seen..:).. 2L naturally aspirated engine.. but then there is that CVT which is a big "no go" for me.
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Makes me miss my almost bulletproof Dodge Neon with a great manual transmission!@@BCautosolutions
@@frankish5314 yeah the simple days are long gone
mazda 3
New Corolla uses a belt-less CVT with electric motors. Way more reliable.
I am so glad I passed on a 2018 1.5T Accord and went with the 2013 RDX when I was shopping for wife’s car a year ago! (P.S. Keyboard warriors! Lmao! )
That was a great call. 🙌
Totally random question man but how often should I change my 07 ridgeline transfer case fluid ? And also the VTM fluid ?
Transfer case 30-60k
Rear diff 15-30k
Both depends on driving conditions and habits
Looks like the same design-problem that FORD is having with its ECOBOOST engines.
Ford also cut a small grove between cylinders that is causing head gaskets to leak and then blow.
The 4 cylinder Ecoboost failures became so commonplace that Ford was forced to redesign the block and eliminate the coolant groove.
Honda may have to do the same.
Yep, this has been said over and over again. Same message I’m relaying here.
@@0HOON0let’s see how this plays out but it’s a possibility imo. Would not be fun for us on the repair end that’s for sure.
hey, do all these problems aligned with the 2018 2.0t accord as well? my car is AC and heat is all out of whack. My coolant gets killed so quickly and I’m having crazy misfires with my car for the past few months now my car won’t even start now it’s getting warmer out. I’m not sure whether it’s my injectors or the head gasket or maybe bothI have many modifications on the car
So we are seeing an uptick in blown head gaskets on the 2.0t, so it’s very possible you have something going on there.
I just did one on Monday, and if I had to guess, I'd say it's that slit that they have in between the cylinders.
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I have a 2023 civic touring with this engine. I was wondering if there was a specific mode to help prolong the life for this engine. For example would eco be the best mode to use because the turbo doesn't get up to the full 16.5 PSI of boost?
No, just do the things mentioned in your video and that gives your the best chances at getting the least issues out of it. Best of luck.
When replacing the head gaskets on these 1.5t engines are you having to have the surfaces machined or do they typically stay flat/ straight? Preparing to replace the head gasket in my accord after 65,000 miles of easy driving and careful maintenance.
Haven’t found any warped yet although I check them every time.
Also, where are you in New Jersey? I am probably going to need some assistance on my 2018 accord ASAP.
I’m in union county. for bigger jobs, I’m currently booked into the late summer/early fall. 😬
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Thanks for all of the 1.5T content! I bought a '22 Si new in Dec. of '21 and absolutely love the car. I do have a TSP tune which I run only on map 1 or 2 and don't drive it like an Ogre but occasionally do spirited drives (Tail of the Dragon, etc.) I work on and maintain all of my vehicles and always put 93 octane in the Civic. It now has 19k miles and I've had zero issues with it. I'm seriously considering putting in the TSP/ARP head studs but have a question: Do you NEED to pull the head or can you replace one at a time. I've seen a few YT videos of people doing the one at a time method without issues. Thoughts? Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. I suppose one can do a bolt one by one and that would be better then nothing imo. The right way would to be pull the head, replace gasket all in one shot.
I would worry about how you would clean the threads on the block before putting the new studs in. You might introduce more problems for the block and damage it or cause the torque to be incorrect when tightening.
My 2012 Civic EX has 299,300 miles on it. I should be passing 300,000 in a few weeks. My previous car, a 2002 CRV, had 203,000 miles when it was totaled. I buy Honda for the peace of mind, and there's no way I will get that with these new 1.5Ts, nevermind the CVTs as well. Next car will be a Toyota - Camry or RAV4. What a shame because I've LOVED my Hondas.
Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
I have a 2014 2.4 L, no frills but total functionality been a good car for 8 years. Never had a turbo and i think ill avoid them
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My 2013 SI the 2.4L has 179,000 mi and runs like an animal every single day.
What is the tightening torque for the cylinder head bolts if I use old bolts? Please tell me, now I will change the gasket for si 2018
Never re-use the stock head bolts. They are one tines use only.
Thank you for the video. Great info as always! So if you are out of warranty, what is the approximate cost of replacing a head gasket on a 23 Si? I only have 6k miles but just curious
Probably 2-3k ish
@@BCautosolutions thanks for the info! Pricey but wouldn’t be worth trading it in for something else.
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just finishing replacing the head gasket on a 2016 civic and according to the dealership there is no head gasket issue. They said " don't believe everything on CZcams" Was quoted $3600 part and labor to replace and suggested to buy a used engine and swap $2240 CAD.
Seems like they don’t know what they are doing. Recommending a used engine with a possible partially blown head gasket is a horrible approach. Find yourself a new dealer. Did you end up doing it yourself?
Yes my father (80) tackled the job. The car did have 190,000km on it, so not low mileage.
@@675clipper oh wow, good for him and lucky for you!
I have a 2020 Accord LX that I bought new. So far, I've had no problems, although I've only driven about 36,000 miles and always use premium gas.
Do you think driving on Econ mode would help me avoid the head gasket issue? Thanks.
Econ mode might help, I would just try to avoid full throttling it as much as possible plus practicing the other things I mentioned. Best of luck
A stock 1.5L turbocharged engine can run boosts of up to 20psi in order to generate upwards of 200HP in a HONDA seems ridiculous. Soichiro Honda envisioned efficient, reliable vehicles; complicated and higher performance inducted engines (as well as gas guzzling V6s) weren't in his vision.
As to the L15, It can't be that hard to figure out that lowering boost a few PSI could help with the blown head gasket issue (and maybe even the oil dilution issue) without losing that much power. Does a Civic really need to have 175HP and max torque at 1500RPM? They could also make the a minor change to the block that you pointed out, use the stronger head bolts you also pointed out, and if they want to be running the long stroke they are then maybe use better connecting rods and connecting rod bolts.
But I suppose they are still pushing hard to hybrids and EVs, so maybe they don't want to allocate the resources for changes to the L15.
Agreed on every point. Thanks for sharing
I vote they will continue to have issues.
Only time will truly tell. Let’s see what happens next few years.
Thanks for being honest.
Honda dealers are corrupt when they are selling their vehicles. Honda engineers probably the same that worked at Hyundai or KIA.
There’s plenty of good Honda dealers and I’m sure plenty not so good ones as well. Just have to find the correct one with a good advisor and tech.
Hi there , is oil dilution a thing with the 1.5 T ?
In some cases yes
After watching your videos and also looking at other links, it seems pretty clear we have to use 91 octane fuel if need to avoid head gasket issues.
However, since 91 fuel is expensive, I would obviously try to save the maximum of it. In this regard, what are your thoughts on auto idle start stop system in 2024 Honda accord 1.5T? I’ve been trying to avoid its use so far but if we have to use idle start stop system, would that be safe to do without having any similar engine issues?
I don’t like auto stop, I find it annoying and puts extra unnecessary wear on battery and starter.
I think you said 91/93 is "cleaner" If your engine can't take advantage of the higher octane, from what I've read, it'll leave more deposits, thus it'll run less clean.
Why isn't Honda coming up with a redesign? If they don't think it's worth the money to make a change to the block, why not at least use better head bolts!? Isn't that a cheap fix for them that could prevent permanent bad PR? And maybe a better gasket. Perhaps they should have used a slightly larger engine (even a 1.6L).
Also I appreciate what you're doing, although this video is basically a repeat of the first one on this.
Cleaner meaning it’ll be less prone to detonation especially in the hotter months.
I can’t answer why they didn’t make any changes, that’s way above my pay grade lol.
It’s a video going over what I initially said and confirming that there have been no significant changes made (unlike many stating otherwise).
Thanks for watching.
@@BCautosolutionsYes, less prone to detonation, but I wouldn't say cleaner.
As for the changes, I was kind of speaking rhetorically, or for anyone who knows. Just a discussion. :)
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I have accord 1.5 2023 being using 91 grade gasoline hope it stays this way
No issues
Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
Sir did forget d17 head-gaskets 2001-2005 civic every single one of them on fb market place had head gasket issues done tons of those aswell as the k20z3 from 07-11 civic si and including the base models had head gasket issues
This is happening way earlier then the d17 and on a much bigger scale. I’ve never done a head gasket on a k20z3 and I’ve been with Honda for 16 years.
👍🏻👍🏻. I have heard some massive understatements in my life. But you hoping your Honda & Acura information is helpful to a owner takes the cake.
Well maybe that's a bit of an overstatement. But you get the point.
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Ford also has a similar issue with the 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, and 2.3 four cylinder EcoBoost with their engine blocks. Also VW is having the same issue with their 1.5 TSI.
Amazing who engineers keep making same
Mistakes lol
I just picked up a 2024 touring 1.5T, I only have a little over 400 miles and when I'm stopped at idle, the motor is a little rough. my first fill-up was with 91, hope it gets better, I'm hearing of a lot of 1.5 issues....😔
We haven’t seen any blown head gaskets yet… still a little premature although will update as needed
What are the part # for the head gasket
New Head bolt s
8:46 your mentioning of premium fuel vs regular, you got me curious as from a mechanic perspective what are the benefits of running premium? You mentioned cat and mine is shot (car burns 1 quart per 400 miles so I'm not surprised) but what parts does the gas effect?
He mentioned it before that it will lessen the chance of pre detonation
@futile21 well yes I'm aware of the compression and firing of different gas qualities. I more meant no one ever mentions that gas also effects the cat. So what else does it wear out prematurely by running regular. Here in canada it's over $8/gal for premium gas so I want to know if it's worth the cost
You must be pretty good at changing them out by now :)
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Have a 24 crv. Using top teir 89 gas & usung econ mode. Hope this helps some in this honda fiasco. They need to do better, or i will eventually trade for another manufacturer. Probably Mazda.
Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
I have a 2.0t with one of your symptoms.when at cold start i feel a slight miss fire but goes away quickly any suggestions
The 2.0t isn’t immune to head gaskets blowing although usually happens at much higher mileage typically.
I have an RDX with this engine and had minor cold start misfires when on 87 octane. Switching to 91 fixed the issue. I figured 87 was fine since my fuel cap sticker stated 91 recommended. Now I know better.
@@hauseofraf any turbo engine I’m doing 91+ for sure. Thanks for sharing
I just got a new head gasket done on my 2018 crv at 150000 miles. I installed the aftermarket apc headbolts. Should i still run 91 octane? Would it be OK to run 87 with the aftermarket headbolts?
I would still prefer the 91 especially in the hotter months but those studs should do their job even on 87.
When I saw a guy disassemble the 1.5T, I was absolutely disgusted. It looked like all they did was put a snail on the most marginal NA engine. The tiny bearings and lightweight parts are great for a high fuel economy NA engine. However, that is not how you build a turbo engine that lasts.
Successful turbo engines had much larger parts than NA engines. Although big heavy parts aren't good for fuel economy, sometimes you have to have them. It why people would get away with turning up the boost on a 300ZX or Volvo brick.
Also, I hate that they have an open deck block. Successful aluminum turbo engines are either closed deck or semi open deck. It is how an unmodified Evo X or Subaru STI is constantly on boost and gets away with it. The Evo X final edition has 303 horsepower out of a 2.0L engine, and it doesn't even have the advantage of GDI. Cheap reprogramming and lame mods are often what kills them. I also think about what people do to their Silvia SR20DET.
My dad's 2017 Fit did not have the 1.5T. However, it hasn't been a good car. Also, the dealers were an absolute rip off. My mom is considering a new car soon, so I told her to absolutely never buy a new CRV. I am glad you mentioned octane rating. My mom will not buy any car that need more than 87 octane. She talks about not wanting to change a thing after decades of driving. Some GDI-T engines permit 87 or even call for it. Well, hopefully the manual actually means it. One thing she is willing to do is ignore the long oil change interval and change it more often. What some manuals permit is absolutely insane and does not work.
This is why I won't buy an Accord. Camry V6 here I come
@@milfordcivic6755 Several companies decided to replace a 6 with a turbo 4. Toyota tends to let other companies screw up, and only sell things when the bugs have been worked out.
I think that is why Nissans have been so hit or miss. They often have to be the first Japanese company to have something. It was probably why in my mom's 1985 Nissan Maxima, everything that was not the engine or robot voice was junk. Nissan managed to pull off the first V6 of any Japanese company and they did it well, that's their hit or miss ways for you.
Yeah nothing about the 1.5t on paper or on the field screams longevity and reliability. While some may have some good luck and also some aggressive maintenance practices, the writing is on the wall for most to fail imo.
Can we install a copper O ring cut into the same grove between each cylinder to fix this issue?
I’m not sure how that would fare long term tbh.
What was the newest model you’ve seen with this? Also with the changes Honda did on the 1.5, do you think they secretly fixed it?
21-22 accord and I don’t but hope I’m wrong
It’s wild to hear that Honda is having these issues. I’m sure these engines are wonderful to use, as was my turbo Volkswagen, but there’s a certain point where it becomes more trouble than it’s worth. Maybe the turbo experiment needs to end for the sake of the brand.
I mean really, how much horsepower does a Civic actually need? I just bought a Corolla and the 169 hp 2.0 is just right and it gets 40 mpg, and Honda has proven its ability to make that kind of horsepower out of a similarly sized engine that’ll last forever… so why with the turbos?
I really, truly wanted a Civic rather than a Corolla but it seems like Honda has lost its way here.
Luckily the civic still comes in a 2.0 na as well as a hybrid version soon. There’s some hope and those engines are great.
@@BCautosolutions true. I guess it'd just be nice if they focused on that as the primary bread and butter engine across the Civic line. Honda definitely has the knowledge to at least match Toyota's 2.0 for efficiency and horsepower... as it stands the Toyota engine is better in both measures and it comes in a less expensive car. The turbo makes sense as a replacement for the V-6 though.
My mom had her Crank Shaft seal replaced on her 04 Civic but she still has leaking. I’m curious to see what you would think is still the problem? Are there known other parts that should have been changed?
It’s probably the oil pump seal leaking.
@@BCautosolutions You know your Honda’s! That was the problem and she ended up paying double to fix the problem. You should probably own your own shop.
@@teslamr7333 some day 💯
I scrolled through your videos and didn’t see anything on either…the last good automatic transmission by Honda, before they went to the CVT or on the Accord 2021 - 2023 10 speed transmission on the 2.0 L turbo.
I’d also like to know what to look for, before buying a used 21-23 Accord 2.0t .
Would have to be the 5at. The 4at is weak, 6at has juddering issues. 10at seems pretty solid this far.
2.0t accord I would look for abuse and prior modifications as it’s a highly modified and abused cars by enthusiasts
Hola amigo,sería bueno que los videos tuvieran la posibilidad de subtítulos.Gracias 👍!
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Hello, wonder if you could comment on Honda 3l turbo 6 cyl . on the Type S Acuras ( turbo lubrication, cooling, plastic water pump impellers , housings etc)Considering one of these as a replacement to a money pit BMW 6 cyl. ( is there anything not made of plastic?).
Im also considering a 2liter normally aspirated civic Hatch manual for my son ( trying to keep his car under 160hp as he’s a young driver ) , Given he’s a Formula 1 fan , a Honda is an easier “ sell” .. RedBull Honda etc etc ..
Hey, I have a ton of tlx type s content. Honda never used plastic impellers on water pumps on their j series so I don’t think this will be any different. There haven’t been any turbo issues or engine issues, some trans issues tho.
Good choice on car for your son while he learns to drive 👏
From all the head gaskets replacements you or the dealership did, have they all been using only 87 fuel?? I noticed that fuel recommendation discrepancy on the '23 accord awhile back. It's just weird they recommended it across all accord powertrain including 2.0 hybrids.
I try to ask and every single one I’ve asked did.
I was at my dealer to have the oil changed inmy wife's new CR-V and the advisor has s customer with a 18 Accord with 350k on it. No hg issues but has a issue with the turbo. Lift driver. Oil changes every 5k
That’s amazing not going to lie. Not everyone will be affected by this but too many will.
When coolant is low in the 1.5accord is that due to a head gasket issue or does the coolant deplete in every car ?
It's something you should address immediately. Look for any leaks. If there is a significant leak (more than a seep) then don't drive the car. If not, then refill the coolant reservoir to the fill line with the correct premixed Honda coolant.
Some small amount of evaporation is normal but if the coolant level is very low, making an appointment with your mechanic would be a good idea.
Some consumption/evaporation is to be expected although when happening a high rate the coolant is seeping into the cylinder and causing a cold start misfire while disappearing from the system at the same time.
I have a 2018 Accord 1.5t with 70k miles with misfire codes. I have changed OEM plugs and coils. I have injectors on order. What are the symptoms you are seeing for the head gaskets?
Cold start misfires usually cylinders 2-3, low coolant levels, poor heat.
Do you think these problems are happening in colder states ??? I’m in Cali with my 2020 1.5 accord and your scaring my with these vids 😂😂
Question; I have a new 2024 Honda Accord EX Turbo, should the head gasket bolts be replaced to head off problems?
Would be ideal For long term Purposes
@@BCautosolutions Do you have any suggestions as to what type, brand off head gasket bolts?
@@southeasternservices1683 arp head studs from two step performance
For a 2.0T, could you please elaborate a lil more as to why you'd recommend 91+ Octane? Very interested to hear your reasoning.
Well for starters your going to get the most out of the engine for performance and secondly your going to reduce the chances of pre detonation which can cause a variety of issues.
2.4l is the only way to go because these new turbo engines are not built to last
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Not the Same old Honda
Tesla looking Better & Better every day...
I’m not convinced of the EV movement either 😅
Teslas are awesome, but sorta mid in reliability. Consumer Reports says buy a Camry if that's your highest priority. (Who could have guessed)
Would an oil analysis detect coolant before it blows?
No. Coolant goes into combustion chamber not oil
If coolant showed up in the oil you already have a problem, something has definitely already blown.
@@michaelw6277 the analysis can detect extremely minute amounts which may buy you enough time to trade it in for something else before it starts tripping codes
Video idea: best and worst used hondas to buy and why
Consider it done ✅
Nah, i don't belive this fuel quality blame for this problem, this is just marketing, exactly like vw is saying that 1L of oil in 800 mile is normal...
Bad design is bad design, that 1.5 has too much pressure with the turbo and the direct injection and the fact that it's an open deck, doesn't help also...
It's not normal to have a car and in constant need to baby the thing so that the most expensive part of it (engine) doesn't leave the chat... A serious law suit should be made and force Honda to figure it out (either a different type of headgasket or change the engines for the customers with problems)...
People on high octane fuel and head bolts combined don’t have head gasket failures on stock power levels. There’s been hundreds of these situations recorded
Do you recommend trading in 1.5 for 2.0/hybrid ?
I will say the 2.0 hybrid has it advantages over the 1.5t.