Here's why the Honda Accord Sales are PLUMMETING while Civic sales are SKYROCKETING
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
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The #hondaaccord and #acuraintegra are dropping in sales in 2024. In this video we dig into why: production snags, competition, and pricing
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The accord is just ugly. Civic is the new king
😂😂😂😂
Was exactly going to comment this. Civic looks way better and it isn't even close.
I had a civic sport touring for 10 months, I really enjoyed the car. I only got rid of it because I really wanted the integra Type S and got one for MSRP and came into a little money, otherwise I’d still be content with it, it actually had some bells and whistles absent on my Type S.
I agree 😆
“Ugly” is a little strong, its just bland/boring (mostly the front end). and they got rid of the 2.0T, not that that was a big seller but…
I’m a sales guy at a Honda dealer. People say interior is great but hard to get over how the outside looks, CR-V and the Civics are the best sellers here.
I liked the look of the accord. I liked the way the hybrid touring rode. I was ready to buy. But the dealer experience at the three local dealers in the Sarasota area was horrible. So I went back to Audi.
@@doxydoxdelamanca9902 Most Honda dealer still think that they are the only ones in the market, my local dealer hides over 150 cars around a blind corner and put about 20 new cars on the lot.
@@doxydoxdelamanca9902enjoy the unreliability ....😂
100%. Love the 10th gen. My Acura TLX lease was up and I wanted to look at a hybrid. I kept trying to talk myself into the Touring model of the Accord. I just couldn't get over the exterior look. You have to like walking up to your car or looking back at it. I just couldn't get there with the Accord Touring unless it was a specific color at the just the right angle. Any other model, color or angle.....
If I get a hybrid, it'll be a Camry XSE or Civic Touring. (car is just a daily driver for me. kids are grown and trips are in the wife's SUV)
@@diamondd2778 if he buys new, he will get bored of the car before any issues pop up
As an owner of a 10th gen 2.0t I feel the 11th gen is a step down.
Same. And I've had a total of 4x Honda Accords since 2011.
The 11th gen is a good car, don't get me wrong, but versus the 10th gen? It's a step backwards. I can't even go for the Sport because it's so much slower than my car. Besides gas mileage, there is nothing about it that I want. Honestly, I would sacrifice 6-7mpg if they released a hybrid with equal performance to my 2.0T.
I loved my 10th gen. The 11th gen is terrible. So many cutbacks and flaws, and materials have been cheaped out.
Bottom line: if a dealer does not give you 15-25% off on a new Accord or Integra walk out and find a different dealer.
I was looking at an Integra dealer, I was not interested in the version with the 1.5 motor but the S model was 51K, no discounts at all.
He will be walking out everytime 😂
Agreed! In canada the Integra is so over priced.. and Hondas financing is unreal.. 9.49% to buy an Integra
@@bohunk1344 VW are 25% cheaper in Canada than the US, I would be looking at the GTI.
Actually alot of people are talking and excited about is the debut of the kia K4.. great styling, price, no cvt, and loaded with tech and options
The Accord is SUFFERING from it’s looks. I am a Honda guy and want an Accord but I can’t look at it. The design team for the Accord should be looking for new jobs.
They are making all of the new generation Honda’s quite hideous. So bad that it seems to be on purpose, as it would actually take effort to make a modern vehicle look like it was made at least a decade ago. The worst one is the HR-V IMO.
The CR-V is the only one that has improved in terms of exterior looks lately. I expect they will demolish that as soon as they can.
EXACTLY
Same way I feel about the CRV…the previous gen looks way better than the current gen…but it’s a good car that’s why it still sells. But stylistically…no comparison.
The 2022 Accord's styling is very attractive! Then, the Accord designers lost their mind. How can you just such an attractive design and produce one the ugliest cars on the car market? For those who like the current design, I respect that. For most of the buying customers, we say "Nope!" Shame on you Honda.
@@harveyscott379 On the other hand, the Camry is looking absolutely fantastic, inside and out!
The mid-cycle refresh cannot come soon enough. The Camry has really taken a huge lead in terms of styling, economy, and performance
@@KC-lg8qf I concur occur.
The Camry is just as ugly. Looks more like a refresh than redesign. Toyota’s design language is hideous
I hate them though. The interiors are pure garbage and they don't look interesting at all
@alexanderkennedy296910th gen production was just 4 years, so if it comes within 6 months that wouldn't be unreasonable imo. Especially with these sales numbers
The Camry is 🤢🤮 too
the Civic is now the size of what the Accord used to be. I had a 97 Accord that I put over 100k on with zero issues before getting t-boned at a stoplight. If I were to get a Honda 4 door now, I would choose the Civic
Consoul, I can attest to the Civic’s larger size as of late. I had a ‘16 Civic EX, and it was the same size as a mid-2000’s Accord I was looking at previously, body-wise, interior-wise. I would say that Civic’s interior is bordering on the mid-size segment. Sadly I don’t have the Civic anymore (collision with semi) 😢
@@carlovanrijk4039praying you get a new one 🙏🙏🙏
My God the same thing happened to me I had a 99 Camry solara V6 manual transmission vehicle. It ran flawlessly until someone t-boned it at 297000 miles.
@@TheLifetraveler1 why is it always the good ones that get t-boned? Makes you wanna cry. 😢
Funny enough, I actually had a 95 accord with 148k, ended up totalling it. I've driven both the civic, and accord.. They feel the exact same, so I went with the new Civic. A great upgrade in terms of everything, except the acceleration isn't too different 😂
Nobody wants the new Accord because it’s fucking ugly
Not ugly but bland
Yep i agree its not ugly, but the design is so boring nothing interesting exterior wise
Handsome/Boring car 🥱
i agree, change it back to the original gen
I swear a Honda representative is in these comments and takes these customer complaints back to the big bosses. Lol
I used to notice the Accord because it was so distinctive, so I purchased the last body style. I now noticed the Accord because it's usually the most boring car that's passing me by
1- they made the Accord ugly.2- Total disrespect to the gas engine no longer being a EXL. 3- The cloth upholstry in LX/EX is also cheap and ugly. Which leads to 4- Do a total refresh in 2025. I will keep my nicer 2014 EXL Accord.
Hit all points with this comment.
Hard to get rid of my 2013 EXL Accord. If only they made an OEM hitch for it, I wouldn't even consider getting a new car. Surprising for a first year model, I have experience zero issues other than the seat memory stop working right before warranty expired. It's a great car and probably the last well designed Accord. The door is lined with soft touch materials, which will be a hard find in even top trim these days.
The Accord looks great. Best looking sedan in years.
Team 2014 🎉
@@moonbeamskies3346literally idk why they wanna lie😂
Electrification is a major blunder everyone is making. No infrastructure, crazy depreciation for buyer, and everyone is ignoring how climate affects operation and performance. Government regulations will literally kill the industry. I back Toyota's hybrid strategy.
I think your spot on. The only thing I can think of is the design of the Accord. It no longer has that sporty appeal to it. It looks like something a retired person would drive.
Retired person here. I am not trying to re-live my youth lol. Bought a 2023 Accord EX-L and love it. Averaging over 47mpg with close to 600 mile range/tank of gas. It may look boring to some but looks great to me.
@@jwawker That car looks like it should be invisible. The fun stopped with the Accord in 2022.
Hey.....take it easy on us retired guys! I've been retired for 7 years and I think it is pretty boring too.
That’s always been the case with the accord.
Retired guy here. 65. I wouldn't consider the new Accord. It's ugly, BORING!
Why buy an Accord when you can just get the CRV for a few hundred bucks more? If you want a sedan, the Civic is better looking for a good amount less.
nailed it.
Or if you want a more reliable sedan with better looks and fuel economy, get a Camry. The Accord is just not doing it.
Yep your right because a accord touring is like 43k which is too much. The reason I'm seeing discounts now and I still wouldn't buy the accord.
@@rayvalero8580 I just thought the Camry interior looked weird. ( The dash area. )
The Civic has grown enough in size to make the Accord make less sense for people it appears as well
I feel like the sales really plummeted when they decided to give it a weaker powertrain than the previous person and make the styling so very anonymous.
Hopefully they can give it a more powerful engine option and more substantive updates during the refresh.
Almost a great bank robbing car.
Witness I do not know what kind of car it is, maybe a 2002 Malibu
Honda designs a super ugly Accord, then wonders why sales are tanking
Honda better fix the Accord fast or else it will go away like all the other midsize sedans
Especially since the Camry is getting majority positive reviews for it's exterior AND interior.
@@rayvalero8580 yea Camry could be the only one left in the segment just like how the Crown is the only one in the full size segment but it would be smart of the Nissan chooses to keep the Versa as the only subcompact car left as some people still want cheap cars under 20k
honda better fix themselves because they're losing their customers due to unreliability!
@@j3558 it really hasn’t had a huge impact yet like Nissan
@@j3558Honda doesn't have major issues. No car is perfect.
Bring back the v6!
I think it’s Honda’s cost cutting is more evident in its recent offerings .
The value just is not there compared to the competition
The accord looks like a model from the early 90s- 2000s. Is officially now a gramma car
Both in appearance and driving dynamics!
@@ItsAlive111 not even my grampa bro.. Grandma. I'd rather get the civic hybrid than that Accord personally buy I'd get the Camry before either of them
The new accord is in it's own league 🤢. Because the 1998-2002 was one of the best designs baby boy will never die LOL!
Naw! The Accords of the early 90’s were way better looking!
Gramma!
I'm so incredibly sick of everything being truck, SUV, COV vehicles.... I guess the country has turned its back on better driving sedans...
Sad
The Accord's exterior styling sucks. It just looks boring. Plus two of the biggest selling points for prevous generation (manual transmission and the K20C 2.0t) are dead.
Not to mention, since the 2016 model year, the Civic has been a pretty large car. It's big enough to comfortably fit 4 6 foot+ aldults, plenty for most buyers. Combine that with the better styling and lower price of the Civic, and I bet a lot of potential Accord buyers are opting for the Civic instead. Especially now that the Civic hybrid is available.
I'm a 2018 Accord owner, but if I were to buy another Honda now, it would certainly be a Civic. The Accord really doesn't have much going for it now, and the differences are more cons than pros unless you really need the massive rear seat space the Accord offers.
I bought a 2018 Civic Hatchback, LX, 6 speed, 1.5 turbo brand new in Nov of 2017, just turned over 100k miles last week - it's a great car! I stealth camp in my hatchback when I go to Florida on vacation - there's that much room in my Civic Hatchback. I slide the passenger front seat forward and put in a wooden tray behind that seat then I can completely sleep in the back. It's fun to drive and I get 40 mpg at 70 mph on the highway, with tons of room. I'll probably keep it for a long time. Some guy on You Tube made of vid of his Civic with the 1.5 turbo showing he has 700k miles on his engine, no major problems! And guess what? I bought my Civic for $19, 200 from the dealer, out the door! I like it better than my old Z cars from the 1970's, in many ways, so look for a 10th gen Civic - great cars.
@@travelguy1564 The only reason I bought an Accord instead of a Civic is because when I was on the market for a car, they didn't sell a manual Civic hatchback with the options I wanted. Then like a year later with the midcycle refresh, they added the manual option for the Sport Touring. Awful timing.
I've enjoyed the Accord, but I think I'd have liked the Civic more. I really miss having a hatchback (I'm honestly not sure why sedans even exist. Even if you prefer the sedan aesthetic, a liftback can fulfill the look while greatly improving space and practicality). I should be rolling over 100k in my 2018 Accord Sport 6MT in a month or two, so I'm right behind you!
Accord….ugly ugly ugly! Accord looks for the older people like how Camry use to be.
The Accord is indeed Bland and Boring looking 🥱
But its not that ugly
News flash!! Older people don't like UGLY, BORING cars either!
why the Accord isn't selling: "omg i don't want a boring SEDAN i want a boring CROSSOVER"
Camry is selling, even during model change and ramp up.
Civic is selling like hot cake, so people are still buying sedans
Lol Anamnesis
Kia K5, Sonatas, Elantras and Civics are selling, so there’s clearly a market for sedans. It’s just the manufacturers rather you drive an uninspiring crossover.
@@upbeattvraw-hiphop8242manufacturers aren't making that decision. The masses are, and manufacturers are responding accordingly (no pun intened).
I bet the 10th gen Honda Accord is selling on the used car market like hotcakes now!
I get an email every week from The Honda dealership wanting to buy back my 21' sport 2.0T
No 2.0t no v6 no manual and it the ugliest accord ever
Compared to the Camry, the Accord used to attract a slightly younger and performance-oriented demographic. For this generation, however, the Accord just looks too bland (old?) and without the 2.0t engine, the performance is just ok. As it is, the Accord lacks any special features to stand apart from the Camry.
They’re both sedans that aren’t too far off each other size wise, and the Civic cost less. It’s a no brainer why it’s chosen more
The Civic is not far off the previous Accord. But the new Accord is much larger.
The new Accord is the size of a Yacht. Not sure what you are talking about. But yes, the Civic is now big enough to skip the Accord.
@@jpizel1070 all you did was agree with me. Why buy an Accord when the Civic exists and is already pretty large and costs less
@@jpizel1070 they should have made it a wagon (just add a hatchback). I want the length and cargo of an SUV without the height so I can add a cargo box and enter garages. that's way more utility than any SUV/crossover. I can keep my gear in the cargo box without sacrificing backseats. SUV's are very limiting once garages are in the equation, parking outside 24/7 is not practical.
The CVT transmission is a deal breaker on any car, plus they got rid of the 2.0T
The Integra isn't different enough from a Civic. Just more expensive. For me, the TLX is outdated with the trackpad. The Accord used to be great with the exterior and 2.0T. Not so much anymore. I went with a 25 Camry.
They went backwards instead of forward with that design smh
I have heard many describe this as a "Japanese Buick", which I think is spot-on. For the age 30-50 demographic (likely buyers), remembering your grandpa's Buick is not a positive association. I'm a Honda guy, too. Had a 2018 Accord Sport 2.0T for a while. My favorite car ever.
It's all just design imo. For most people, both these cars get the job done. But the current Civic (especially the sedan version) looks significantly better than the previous Civic. The current Accord looks considerably worse than the previous Accord.
I really like the last edition of the Accord, the current model looks like a Jetta.
Correct!😊
The Accord is being stomped by the Camry. The new Camry is so much nicer looking. Also, the pricing of the Accord is too high. The Civic grew in size, and because they are so close in size, but is cheaper, smart consumers will just buy the Civic. Sure wish we could have an Accord wagon again.
Civic hatch looks great
There’s still an 11inch difference between Accord and Civic
@@chezzyperson3339 the civic has 37inches of rear leg room. one inch less than the new camry.
The Camry looks like a 50's Studebaker.
How much for a brand new Camry?
I feel like the Accord always went this way in the past. One generation a bit sporty then the next gen more plain looking. This time they went too bland with it and it's showing in the sales. If they make it to next gen, it has no choice but to look better by comparison. So we'll see how they survive this gen.
There's no 2.0 liter turbo, there's no excitement!
I’m glad I got a Civic hatchback. My family has always kept some form of an Accord since 2002. Now we all agree the current generation is not hitting.
The accord makes the lumina look cool, conversely, the civic si, is the new cool kid
Well, the Chevy Lumina in the Middle East and other markets had a crazy exhaust note, rear-wheel drive and a 6.0 liter V8 with over 400 horsepower, sooo….
😂😂😂
To bad si engine weak. I drove it as hard as it could go not impressed. Accord 2.0t more better.
That’s what it looked like to me a Chevy lumina!!! I just couldn’t put my finger on!
Sedans can make a comeback. Honda needs to make an emergency refresh like they did with the Civic in 2012 I think?
Agree
I personally don't see myself ever buying a sedan again. So lackluster.
if they built a wagon, sedan's will be dead. If Audi's or Mercedes were reliable, I'd get a wagon from them instantly.
@@baronvonjo1929 don't make me come down there you punk
@@baronvonjo1929 I'm still a sedan guy. There are many of us out here. I don't like the way SUVs and crossovers drive. I think you get a much better driving experience with the lower center of gravity in sedans.
The design of the accord is very ugly and they stopped the 2.0 turbo engine and the price is too high that for just a little more you can get a Lexus or Acura.
Price is too high like low 30s is cheap my guy get with the times
I agree with the price being too high just to get rear AC vents you have to go all the way up to the touring model. Thats unacceptable when the Camry gives you that across the board
@@marissabrewer7692 Honda imo has always been a penny pincher in that regards while Toyota has always been more generous. Annoying by Honda.
@@tyhyhhIt's not that the price is too high in isolation. It's too high compared to other options in Honda's own lineup.
As a recent Honda buyer I’m happy to share the rationale behind my decision to purchase 2 Civic’s Vs a Civic for my wife and an Accord for me. The 2024 Civic is a better value and way better looking than the Accord. I think the Accord is now Honda’s ugly ducking of their whole lineup. Lastly, the Civic hatchback with the rear seats down provides a large amount of useful space.
honestly i feel like Honda phoned in the current Accord. It's not anywhere near the car it used to be.
The 10th generation Accord is still way better than the new 🤷🏻♂️
Also who's idea was it to put a cvt in the accord?? Did honda hire some nissan engineers?
I was thinking that too
This is pretty funny considering most dealers tried marking up the Integra at launch.
mid-size sedan buyers are moving to the Camry and the 2025 Camry will crush it.
YES! The 2025 camry xse red leather interior looks amazing especially with the panoramic moonroof.
Camry is ugly as well. All they changed on the exterior was the front. Now it looks like a Mishmash.
@@jpizel1070 I like the new look, but it's the great CVT engine that really appeals to me. This is coming from a current Honda owner, but the Camry seems like a more obvious choice for a midsize at this point.
This comment will be unpopular but to me the Camry is highly overrated. Yes better looking than the new accord, it still looks more like the previous generation than a full redesign. And all the hype on its handling, it really doesn't handle better. But I get it, no one wants competition.
The only accord I would buy would be the one with leather interior, meaning the highest tier. Paying $43,000 plus tax for an accord seems absurd to me
EX-L and Sport-L also have leather interiors
@@j3ff1017 You are right. The EX-L comes down to $34,000 MSRP.
The real problem is the Accord is identically priced as the CR-V.
Crv is more spacious and opt for awd
I haven’t driven either, but surely the Accord rides/drives better than the CR-V???
@@gigglybeast The accord absolutely drives better than a CR-V.
I don't think the new Accord is ugly like many do, I just think it's bland looking which makes it a tough sell. Aand with the 2.0T gone it lost its sleeper buying crowd aswell.
The last gen Accords had to grow on me
Last month I was looking to replace my 2016 Accord, so I looked at the EX and EX-L Hybrid. The EX's has cloth interior, an awful stereo and anemic 1.5 T CVT. The hybrid trims are almost $40K and they don't even give you a spare tire and a jack. They give you roadside assistance and a tire inflator with a can of slime. No thanks. I bought a Ridgeline instead and I don't regret it one bit!
90’s Buicks look the same and are a lot cheaper.
Yuck
I think the 11th gen accord design was intentional because Honda wants to kill off the accord eventually
More will dig on the 2025 Camry than the Accord
Get your act together Honda
Ford Taurus is back everyone... just has a Honda badge on it.
Beetle is back too as a Porsche 911
The accord doesn't have as much hp lol
The Taurus had an SHO option at least. Can’t say that the Accord has a Type R.
😂
It was a better looking car
The Accord Coupe discontinuation was personal. 😆2:51
The Honda Civic accomplishes 90% of what traditional Accord buyers want. Now that there are no compelling powertrains to justify getting an Accord over a Civic, and the Accord's styling has received less approval... Honda needs to get it in gear or the Accord is finished.
Thank you Kirk for doing this. You're the only guy in the industry that does this analysis which separates yourself from the rest of your YT peers. This is very valuable information.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought how ugly the new accord is. The last generation looked much nicer.
The accord sales suck because the dealers that sell them suck.
Not sure what the Honda Accord design team were all smoking but this thing looks hideous from the front end. It reminds me of a Ford Taurus from the mid 90’s. The 10th generation Honda 1.5T’s have had issues with head gasket failures. The 2.0T’s in the previous generation are fine so far. I have a ninth generation Accord sport with the 6 speed tranny. I’m tickled to death every time I drive it. It looks great and drives really well. The 10th generation has finally grown on me after seeing this hideous piece of ***** masquarading as the 11 generation Accord.
I think a lot of people are buying the Civic instead of the Accord now. My mom did. The Civic is so much cheaper than the Accord and the Civic is so big now that you can just buy the Civic touring for cheaper than a base Accord hybrid without taking a significant hit in fuel economy.
IMO, here are the 3 reasons the Accord is not selling.
1. It is ugly
2. The L15 motor has pre mature head gasket issues. The manufacturer did not solve the problem.
3. It is no longer a good value compared to other models and manufacturers
True
They need to recall millions of them to get a new block
I say 40% of the consumers doesn't likes the styling of the new Accord.. they should've just updated the previous model. Average age who bought the previous model was late 20s and early 30s
I agree. Last two gens looked far better.
Literally me (30) , bought a 2.0T Accord because I wanted something responsible but with some spirit.
To be fair people didn't like the last gen either and it grew on everyone.
@EchoAccord that 10th gen sentiment changed very fast though. Many rank it very highly now. Response to the 2023+ has ranged from resignation to strong disgust and will no doubt continue. If I were buying today I'd buy either a Civic, Camry, Elantra, or K5 for styling. The appearance of the 11th gen saps joy and makes me feel like I've paid top dollar for the worst product.
2.0T Turbo Accord was a legit sports sedan that probably poached Acura sales. However, charging more for the new Accord upper level trims with the same boring 200 hp is not going to cut it.
Removing the chrome from CRV improved looks 100%. Chrome is for old timers still driving Mercury Grand Marquis.
I don't mind the exterior styling, as I tend to like conservative and understated, but two of the reasons I bought a Mazda 3 were a conventional automatic transmission and available AWD. Honda could've added AWD and made the Accord a world beater, but instead they killed the 2 liter turbo and 10 speed auto, two of the most compelling things about the Accord!
No sedan automatic needs more than six speeds. The other gears are all overdrive to boost mpg a fraction. I already had to service my wife's RDX tranny at less than 50k miles. My Camry's 8 spd tranny is constantly hunting gears. Never had these issues with Mazda and Hyundai six speeds.
Honda isn’t helping the Accord by cutting the trims with any sportiness. The Civic is also now larger than the Accord from 15 years ago. It's a very niche buyer who wants a sedan as large as the new Accord. The TLX sells almost entirely on aesthetics, so it reaches a point where everyone who wants one already has one. It's a full-size on the outside and a compact on the inside. I like every vehicle Honda makes, but it's hard to recommend their sedans other than the ITS or a low trim Civic. Maybe the Prelude will breathe some life back in next year.
I think it's the same for everyone, they LOVE the interior but HATE the exterior. I went to honda dealer with my mother to buy a car for me and the second she looked at the accord, she said it was ugly as hell lol
The new Camry is going to put the nail in the ⚰️ 😢.
Funny thing is i went to one of my local Honda dealers i saw a white civic si and a burgundy Accord touring hybrid and i found myself gravitating to the civic si it just looks much better.🤷🏽
As a previous accord owner it was no question that the new one is ugly. No turbo option just hybrids. I see alot of people driving the base model that's not hybrid.
The look of the Accord interior and exterior is fine. The dealership side stickers are a no-stater for me. I will not pay for over MSRP on any car. I owned a 2006 Accord V6, and it was great! Fast forward to today: 1) No V6, with a turbo 1.5 mini sized engine = yuk. 2) All sorts of costly items I do not want, from auto-braking to auto stop/start are now the norm. 3) Windshields cost more to replace and take-up more of your time. 4) CVT transmissions replaced 6 sp automatics which are repairable. 5) I always expect to see the monitor to retract into the dash, considering it is just a stick on look -- buy not too bad in this case. ;) 6) Higher prices for more plastic on modern cars. The local dealerships wanting an extra $7K in add-on crap on a CVT is beyond the pale. I will either keep what I have now, buy a fine used real car, and not a plastic fantastic, or buy new from Subaru. Yea, I know here comes the CVT again, and the motorboat or lawnmower sounds :)) I am done with Honda and Toyota. Let their greed be their end. I will say the new Camry Hybrid is a fair priced car, but the dealerships are adding on, and on. No matter which new car you go for, you are venturing into the great unknown for repairability, and longevity. Loads of tech to make it go means a load of cash come repair time.
Accord sales will worsen when the new Camry comes out. They're going to have to refresh the styling dramatically to stop the tide.
It's bad enough that Honda put a weak engine in the new Accord, but the new Accord looks boring af.
I've purchased many Accords, that's my go to car when I need car. Currently I'm need a new car, but the new Accord is ugly compared to prior 2 generations.
We don’t have the Accord nor the Camry in Europe. Just Civic and Corollas. But people mostly buy SUV versions of those cars… 🤦🏼
Looks like an old cop car
It’s ugly! Whoever allowed that design should be fired
The Accord front end suffers from major RBF :I
I regret not getting a new 2023 Accord Touring. The new one is nice but the previous one with the 2 liter turbo was cool.
As a former 9.5 gen 6-6 Accord coupe owner. The current gen isn't selling because it's exterior is......... An acquired taste and for the better part of 20 years now, the top trim level Accords while not performance cars, always punched above their weight in that realm. No, they wernt Sportscar fast, but they had above avg performance. This gen... Very little performance to be had. Sure it has an impressive hybrid system, but it misses the mark in terms of what the Accords recent history had become. Roll that into higher interest rates, and MSRPs and well... Not a shock that it's not selling.
its because the 2025 camry is a way better package. hybrid is standard, panoramic sunroof optional with rear vents standard too
Civic over Corolla.
Camry over Accord, personally.
The Corolla gives a better ride and seats are more comfortable and will last longer than the Civic.
The Civic engine and tranny is sooo smooth and quiet. Civic 1.5 has head gasket issues.
Affordability and looks! I think Honda took a step back in the looks of their vehicles!!
Nice coverage!
How are the sonata and Camry doing relative to last year? That information would give additional insight.
Honda is doing it to themselves, yes the previous generation had to grow on us but it didn’t take long. But this generation doesn’t have the looks to be appealing to consumers and lacks excitement.
the first thing I thought when I saw this accord redesign was: "wow, what an uninspired inferior tasteless design". Here in canada, a 2024 accord hybrid cost $47,000. So no body bought one, I can't recall ever seeing one on the road and it's mid June now.
I have a 2015 9th Generation Accord EX and I was in the dealership for service and test drove an Accord Hybrid; car has an AMAZING ride, however it just doesn’t look nearly as good as my 2015 even 9yrs later and the fact that there were no rear seat vents kinda bothered me as I have them now. I also still average 35-38 MPG on the highway so it was an easy no for me.
I hear you I have a 13 Honda Accord Sport manual with 485,000 km. I have it in the dark blue and still looks really good. The new one is too big and boring.
TLX has poor rear seating, Acura almost daring the consumer to buy an SUV if they need the room!! Amazed such a large company like Honda/Acura is so off at times on their marketing!!
For such a large sedan you'd think the TLX would have much more leg room lol. You feel crammed in it even moreso than the new corollas since the rear leg room area has a large middle bump.
Honda: WAKE UP
One day, when you get older, you will hand down your Civic to your kid and enjoy the comfy of the Accord.
Thank you for this insight on the models with dropped sales. I follow Honda sales closely as someone who used to work at the Honda Marysville plant. I believe the 66% drop in Ridgeline sales is due to a stop sale on Ridgelines due to the defective wiring harness that affects the rear camera. Honda is slow to get replacement parts and i have a 2023 Ridgeline awaiting the recalled harness.
I said it when I first saw it .
It's plain , square and has no chrome accents .
The prior generation Accord was rounder , sportier looking.
The Accord as far as I remember came out in the 1980s and all generations were good till this one.
They finally dropped the ball.
Honda need to Postpone their ev goals.
Still research invest but don't forget what's making you money.
Hybrids are their immediate focus .
I love the Honda Civic. It looks so good. I don’t know why anyone would want the more expensive Accord.
Power heated seats with leather rear ac and usb ports that's why
Hmmmm minus the rear air vents, we have all those options in Canada. Add a heated steering wheel
The accord is an amazing car especially the hybrid touring. My issue with it was the audio was lacking for upgraded audio. The audio in the civic type r is what it should’ve been. Other than that it was an amazing car. It rode really well it was incredible on gas and was spacious.
My mom last yearwanted to trade in her 2018 Nissan Altima. She knows i love Honda and Acura and asked me about the Accord. I told no, not good, and steered her towards the new Toyota Camry. My reasoning came down to styling and reliability. The Altima has a CVT transmission that was starting to show signs of it going out. I told my mom that the new Accord in her price range also has a CVT, and im not very fond of that type of transmission. The 1.5t in the Accord is also problematic with premature failure. The camry has a traditional automatic 6 speed transmission. Compared to a CVT, a traditional transmission is much more reliable. The engine in the Camry is a 2.5 litre N/A engine that is extremely reliable and puts out decent power. Lastly, the camry just looks much better. Accord is just ugly. My mom got a decently equipped Camry with plenty of options like lane keep assist, dynamic cruise control, and Apple Car Play/ Android Auto. She also got a great deal. $21k after trade in and only paying $280.00 a month.
Accord design looks lazy. Honda should go back to 2016, 2017 gen and refresh design upon it. Get rid of the 1.5 turbo engine.
So, Honda has a complete reliability disaster with turbocharging its passenger car engines. And apparently their solution is to keep on trying to sell them by putting them into one of the ugliest cars currently on the road. That's the whole story here.
In my area, it’s nearly impossible to get an Accord Hybrid. The only Accords on dealer lots are the 1.5 LX and EX.
Insane markups on the its still
Reason why I chose the Camry over the Accord a few years ago. Camry had a n/a engine paired with an 8-speed auto. Accord had an engine with a turbo paired with a cvt. So i chose the one that would be more reliable long term. Plus the Accord styling had that already old look.
My sister and I did the same thing . I know you are glad you did as well.
I bought the 21' Accord sport 2.0T over the Camry. To me the 10th gen Accord looked better, I loved the feel of the 10 SPD auto and the 2.0T has a nice aftermarket
@@jcallen21 I had a new 2019 Accord EXL 2.0 auto Pearl white . I kept it 8 months. I didn't like it. I never liked how it looked.. I was hoping it would grow on me and it didn't..Poor gas milage in town . It didn't ride all that good.. My Camry rides so much better.. It has beautiful ambient lighting inside.. The Honda body had to many body gaps.. Honda takes a lot of cheap shortcuts.. Those turbo Honda Accords will never last like play previous generations.. until about this Camry I always bought Accords .
The accord isn't selling because its very MID. It feels way more civic than it does accord. The Civic hybrid is essentially going to butcher the accord and I bet money it won't be for sale in a year.
The Acura's don't sell because the preowned one's are like 10 grand cheaper YoY. Saving 10 grand on a one year old 10k mile acura is great value. Acura's are over priced when for that money you can get a lexus. Anyone who wants real sportyness that acura advertises, they go buy a BMW.
For perspective, I have had honda dealers BEG for my 2.0T and were willing to pay me almost what I paid for it a year and a half ago, just to get me to buy a discounted EXL hybrid. I would need 1000$ in cash to trade up from a 2022 to a 2024. That is sad.
The fact that 290k camry's sold in 2023, is INSANE. Those are the great numbers, and that isn't even the new 2025 model. Camry is better value in every metric.
Great information. Now do the Ridgeline. The dealerships seem to be willing to deal on the Honda truck
Sad how a boring looking front end is a dealbreaker to many. To be fair, the Accord has a pretty good interior, rear end, and side profile. As for discontinuing the 2.0T, Toyota did the same thing by discontinuing the Camry V6 without replacing that with their 2.4T. People that skip the Accord in favor of the Camry because they don’t like the idea of hybrids being pushed down the throats of consumers are hypocrites because the Camry is all hybrid now.
The accord is 360 degrees of blandness to me. No good angles. It makes me sad.
@@cgatito3528 on the front, yes. I disagree when it comes to the side, rear, and inside.