You Won't Believe the TOOL Cost to Fix Modern Cars!

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  • čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
  • The Modules and Electrical components in today's cars are killing them! It doesn't matter what make or model. ALL cars have them... American, European, or Asian. PLUS, a clarification from the last video about a domestic car mixup.
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  • @thejohnbeck
    @thejohnbeck Před 26 dny +981

    Who else suspects the complication is on purpose to pull repair work back to the dealerships?

    • @ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1
      @ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1 Před 26 dny +74

      simplicity works for us, complexity works against us

    • @ihavethedocuments2580
      @ihavethedocuments2580 Před 26 dny +35

      With the new vehicles?
      Mission accomplished

    • @The-JMartian
      @The-JMartian Před 26 dny +50

      We just need to stop buying it

    • @biggiefitz6275
      @biggiefitz6275 Před 26 dny +84

      It absolutely is by design. I worked with a tier 1 automotive supplier from 03-06 and watched materials quality drastically go bad ...from polypropylene pellets to wiring harnesses to fabrics used in upholstery. We had engineers engineering engineers if that makes sense. Then came the drastic decline in reliability around 07. When you have to remove a bumper to change a light bulb, it's to keep people from doing it themselves.

    • @Paul-sk2pc
      @Paul-sk2pc Před 26 dny +57

      Maybe the legislators should pass laws that require all manufactures make their service manual and programing software available to public FREE of charge.

  • @ml.2770
    @ml.2770 Před 26 dny +751

    So many good arguments for why "right to repair" legislation is urgently needed.

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika Před 26 dny

      Right to repair is socialism. Why do you hate US Murica?

    • @sarahstephens5966
      @sarahstephens5966 Před 26 dny +12

      No, now that EPA lost in federal court, you can just slap on a Holley carburetor.

    • @MK-bv6wn
      @MK-bv6wn Před 26 dny +8

      Luis Rossmann agree

    • @JR-cf3wh
      @JR-cf3wh Před 26 dny +12

      Right to repair is not only fought by Manufactures, but also shops.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 25 dny

      @@JR-cf3wh You mean the stealerships. Independent shops would welcome Right to repair (unless they're getting bribed to say otherwise).

  • @aarondrennan5650
    @aarondrennan5650 Před 26 dny +88

    I can tell you it’s not just cars, I work in building maintenance and everything from commercial dishwashers and ovens to climate control systems are full of proprietary software and unnecessary electronics.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Před 21 dnem +4

      Agree....totally invasive and WAY over-engineered. Replaced a (wireless) garage door unit. The new unit came with an APP, a forward facing camera, and of course WIFI. I chose to leave all of it disabled except the very base wireless (opener) function.

    • @homeistheearth
      @homeistheearth Před 15 dny

      Yes not we wantz to save zhe environment with you eating zhe bugz... Yeah fuck them all!! Nothing to day is made to help the environment!! Back in the day you fixed everything and trash and scrap was at a minimum because materials were expensive.

    • @matseriksson8177
      @matseriksson8177 Před 12 dny +2

      My mom's landlord had a new fancy programmable fridge installed in her apartment.
      She couldn't get it to work.
      Nor could the THREE janitors that spent FOUR hours (i.e. 3x4=12 working hours, that probably cost about as much as the fridge itself)
      trying to understand and execute the installation and setup procedure.
      After those hours they gave up and ordered a new fridge.
      Was the fridge broken? Or was the setup procedure just too complex? I don't know. I suspect they didn't either.
      COMPUTERS ARE KILLING OUR SOCIETY!

    • @basilwatson1
      @basilwatson1 Před 10 dny +2

      Mac donalds ice cream machine

    • @tomsmith6513
      @tomsmith6513 Před 7 dny

      @@matseriksson8177 Someone must have tried a DIY repair on some part or component inside the fridge

  • @douglaselliott8298
    @douglaselliott8298 Před 25 dny +93

    In 1980 I could get a new (spare) ignition key for less than $5.00 at any hardware store. Recently it cost me $200+ for a new computer 'chipped' key, and then $200+ more for the dealership to program it to my car. I am so sick and tired of computers and digital technology I can't tell you. I wanna go back to 1975 when telephones were wired to the wall, and driving beyond your own town required the basic ability to read a road map.

    • @VideoArchiveGuy
      @VideoArchiveGuy Před 23 dny +3

      That sounds good, BUT:
      Look at Hyundai and Kia being sued by customers and CITIES because they didn't have complicated computerized anti-theft key systems on their lower-priced models, making them easy to steal.
      They're being sued because their ignition systems WEREN'T computerized.

    • @Hedonistic0Frog
      @Hedonistic0Frog Před 22 dny +3

      @@VideoArchiveGuy Well it's because they had poorly implemented keyless entry that made it easier to steal than a car from the 80s. It's the electronics that made it vulnerable to begin with. Just having a well designed tumbler with hardened steel and wheel lock is all you should really need and that doesn't require a single computer. It's why people hate their life when they lose a Mercedes key from the 90s and have to painstakingly drill it out.

    • @sprockkets
      @sprockkets Před 21 dnem +1

      ​@@Hedonistic0Frogum, no, no car could withstand a simple tool designed to break the lock on your ignition, and for that matter, it could also be hot wired aka bypassed.
      And my local dealer only charged $45 to add my key to a 2020 Kia niro.

    • @Hedonistic0Frog
      @Hedonistic0Frog Před 21 dnem +3

      @@sprockketsI guess you don't know that steering locks exist. Unless you're taking the dash apart and cutting that off you're not going far. It's more secure than your key fob.

    • @GoldenCroc
      @GoldenCroc Před 21 dnem +1

      ​​​@@Hedonistic0FrogNot true,old steering locks are easily broken even without tools, it was thief 101 back in the day. Dont need to take anything apart.

  • @IndependenceCityMotoring
    @IndependenceCityMotoring Před 26 dny +460

    This is why it's so important to support "Right to Repair" laws in your state!

    • @FreeLovingAmerican
      @FreeLovingAmerican Před 26 dny

      More laws have been f'ing things up for 240 years. They haven't gotten better but worse. All the politicians are useless sociopaths and psychopaths.

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 Před 26 dny +7

      Unfortunately, the lobbies for both manufacturers and dealerships usually have loopholes written into that type of legislation, effectively defanging it.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 Před 25 dny +2

      All of the automotive stuff is available from manufactures. You do have to pay a fee to use stuff like programming, but its minimal. The stinky part is the push to lock down security functions such as key fobs.

    • @IndependenceCityMotoring
      @IndependenceCityMotoring Před 25 dny +6

      @@mph5896 The fees/costs are nowhere near "minimal".

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 Před 25 dny +1

      @@IndependenceCityMotoring I bought a 2 day subscription to Helm today to flash a module. It was $50. That is minimal😉

  • @Michael-yi4mc
    @Michael-yi4mc Před 26 dny +323

    Cars are adopting the John Deer model for repairs only at their shop.

    • @russelljacob7955
      @russelljacob7955 Před 26 dny +7

      Is why I am glad is no computer scan emissions testing here. I have an older car with wire throttle etc. If it gets to that point? I am going to just strip it out and put in all aftermarket controls.
      I can see that being the new business. Alpine car controls. Doing all the GPS and climate control for your car. Plug in replacements. Compatible with Holley EFI systems.
      My 09 Astra, I am tempted to do that. Strip out all the computers and go stand alone. Only part of contention is the car's security system and immobilizer.
      Take just one tech savvy entrepreneur to solve that however.

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika Před 26 dny +9

      Like John Deer they'll disable your car if you're late on the payment by 1 day.

    • @Unknown-pc9yq
      @Unknown-pc9yq Před 26 dny

      The whole right to repair debate is massively misunderstood buy the people in Washington voting on bills and allowing things to be the way they are. "You will own nothing and be happy." You don't own any of the electronics you buy now. You also have no privacy, because the powers that be can see everything you do 24/7.

    • @MLGPVP
      @MLGPVP Před 26 dny +8

      Best part is that dealerships are now refusing to work on cars older than 10yrs and manufactures like MOPAR are now stopping making parts for 5yr old cars.

    • @uncleremus3211
      @uncleremus3211 Před 26 dny +5

      I fix all the issues on my john deere myself and I have no mechanical training, youtube and the internet are a heck of a thing

  • @MrFastFox666
    @MrFastFox666 Před 25 dny +40

    One of the big innovations that came from the Model T and the assembly line as a whole was that parts were universal; you could get a part from one car and it would work on another one. It's so heartwarming to see manufacturers reversing this massive innovation in the pursuit of money.

  • @halon7476
    @halon7476 Před 22 dny +14

    Boycott all new cars.!!!

  • @Michael-yi4mc
    @Michael-yi4mc Před 26 dny +336

    Today’s cars are entering the point of being a disposable vehicle.

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks Před 26 dny +44

      And at that point they are not green, and shouldn't be marked as better for the environment. Longer a vehicle lasts the better for the environment it is. The less pollution and energy expended to maintain that vehicle.

    • @ihavethedocuments2580
      @ihavethedocuments2580 Před 26 dny +5

      The second law of thermodynamics is about to give the world a big 🖕

    • @zerochill1403
      @zerochill1403 Před 26 dny

      A direct result of shareholder influence on cost reduction. MBAs and shareholder agreements have ruined the entire world.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Před 26 dny +34

      But the prices don't reflect being disposable

    • @honchoryanc
      @honchoryanc Před 26 dny +8

      I can them appliances now

  • @patrailriders6284
    @patrailriders6284 Před 26 dny +182

    My brother is a flat rate tech at a dealership and he finally broke down and bought a really expensive scan tool last year. The dealership wouldn't buy one and he was tired of losing his ass chasing electrical gremlins. The other techs were constantly asking to borrow it, but he said no way. Eventually he got smart and worked a deal with the service manager to pay him an hour for every time he lets someone use it. He also drives a 15 year old POS because the money he might spend on a car payment goes to the tool companies every month just so he can keep up with the technology. Appreciate your local mechanics!

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 25 dny +14

      Your brother should either A) Charge way more money for the use of that scanner or B) Quit and move to a better dealership.

    • @ReadyFreddie5523
      @ReadyFreddie5523 Před 25 dny +3

      I'm kinda surprised as generally the faster turnaround would net the dealership more profits. One dealership I worked had a bonus plan where after X months/ years the dealer paid for new tools, tool boxes etc. So the mechanics stayed happy and stayed there.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 25 dny +2

      @@ReadyFreddie5523 Do you know how much the bonus was for the tools? All the shops and dealers I know offer between $250 and $750 per year... far short of a $3800 tool.

    • @lvsqcsl
      @lvsqcsl Před 25 dny +5

      Sounds like a pretty smart dude to drive a 15 year-old car. I'd be willing to bet he could raise his rates.

    • @TheBestblue486
      @TheBestblue486 Před 25 dny +4

      ​@@lvsqcsl
      Yeah but what fun is it to drive a 15 year old piece of crap

  • @jaycarter8687
    @jaycarter8687 Před 26 dny +34

    This concept sounds like as car buyers we no longer own the car we purchased. It's some sort of weird long term lease where we are forced to only go to dealerships for repairs or have a useless machine in your driveway.

    • @raygunsforronnie847
      @raygunsforronnie847 Před 25 dny +3

      That's basically the Tesla buyer agreement, you own the physical "car" but Tesla owns the software that makes it work.

    • @PrinceAlhorian
      @PrinceAlhorian Před 25 dny +8

      You'll own nothing and you WILL be happy.

    • @danielboughton3624
      @danielboughton3624 Před 13 dny

      With the cost of maintenance they are disposable items. There are issues now getting a mechanic to even work on them. The other issue is the integration includes spyware to track where you go, who else is in your car (cell phones), how you drive, etc. I have heard they can even check when you turn on accessories or use a turn signal.

    • @basilwatson1
      @basilwatson1 Před 10 dny

      didnt that mad german say ,," you will own nothing and be happy ?"

    • @PrinceAlhorian
      @PrinceAlhorian Před 10 dny

      @@basilwatson1 True, but he implied it as a command not a statement. Poor old Schwab, born to early to join the Nazi party and has had sour grapes ever since.

  • @aberobinson1
    @aberobinson1 Před 26 dny +27

    I bought an Autel MK808 off of Amazon. It does a lot of functions including bi directional. It was $400. It's probably the cheapest good tool out there.

  • @Gamesso1slO0l
    @Gamesso1slO0l Před 26 dny +119

    engineered obsolescence, its a feature not a flaw

  • @russelljacob7955
    @russelljacob7955 Před 26 dny +190

    The cost of the tool isnt the issue. The issue is the cost of licensing to be 'allowed' to use the tools. Or even have access to the service information to be able to.

    • @ChiefDLK
      @ChiefDLK Před 25 dny +4

      You can get service data for cheap and a $100 tool to do this.

    • @russelljacob7955
      @russelljacob7955 Před 25 dny +2

      @@ChiefDLK Cheap maybe if you only license for a single car. A 100 dollar tool wont do that much either.

    • @ChiefDLK
      @ChiefDLK Před 25 dny

      @@russelljacob7955 You are just wrong and don't know where to look.

    • @russelljacob7955
      @russelljacob7955 Před 25 dny +3

      @@ChiefDLK Well, if want to buy stolen tools or use illegal software. Good way to get your shop shut down.

    • @ChiefDLK
      @ChiefDLK Před 25 dny +2

      That is not even what I am talking about. I am talking about multiple tools that can do these calibrations on the market right now. They are not stolen they are from major aftermarket brands that have all these functions. I am sorry that you have not done your research. Just cause you don't know anything, doesn't mean that things aren't legit.

  • @Armored1867
    @Armored1867 Před 25 dny +15

    Completely agree My wife and me have a 2012 chrysler town and country, the automatic sliding doors don't want to close. Turns out, a parameter in the door module that counts how many times it open and closes is off and requires for the door module to be flashed and reprogram. For more money then im willing to pay

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 Před 25 dny

      That’s the dumbest shit

  • @WilliamPayneNZ
    @WilliamPayneNZ Před 25 dny +28

    I know a mechanic who is older than dirt. He ran his own shop for decades. He had all the scan tools because he believed in staying up to date in his business. He had some old equipment from the analogue days left over in the back of his shop. He told me once that the old diagnostic machinery cost the same if not more than the new stuff. He came up in the 60’s from a time when everything was done in house. He rebuilt engines, transmissions, brakes, everything. Because he was all about staying modern in his business he was better equipped than most shops and got a lot of the higher end customers because of that. He even went through auto electrical training when he saw that being a basic mechanic was not going to be enough as the technology increased.

    • @AutoAndChill
      @AutoAndChill Před 25 dny

      What old diagnostic machinery?? Old school diagnostic was the mechanic's eyes and ears.

    • @WilliamPayneNZ
      @WilliamPayneNZ Před 25 dny +3

      @@AutoAndChill various equipment manufactured by sun. Ways to test spark duration and dwell angles, early fuel injection testing equipment. Mostly really early distributer and spark testing equipment. This guy had a very well equipped shop. He would travel overseas and buy equipment from various manufacturers and bring it back for his shop.

    • @MDAdams72668
      @MDAdams72668 Před 23 dny +4

      The one big difference was that you bought the equipment ONCE The newer stuff is ONLY available VIA SUBSCRIPTION 2010 was the last year I could BUY the manuals and electrical diagrams even then I would have to get a short-term subscription to program the new various modules I still do work for myself, neighbors and friends I told them all don't buy post-2010 or I can't help you since having the subscriptions only makes sense if one fixes 5+ cars per day Glad to be retired

    • @richardspeakes2883
      @richardspeakes2883 Před 14 dny

      Pride monkey 🙉 😅😅😅😅

    • @danielboughton3624
      @danielboughton3624 Před 13 dny +1

      @@WilliamPayneNZ It depends on what you mean by old. In the late 70's and early 80's a tach/dwell/volt/ohm meter were not expensive nor were a vacuum gauge or a compression gauge. A distributor machine was and so was a scope but a distributor machine was a distributor shop specialty item. The scope was for high end shops and the new (then) electronic ignitions. Prior to electronic ignitions they didn't exist. Spark checking tools (still available today) were inexpensive little mechanical things though generally you could check spark by increasing gap to your ground which is all the spark checker did. My old shop auto teacher (ex ww2 aircraft mechanic) would check the traditional coil based ignition by feel. He would grab a wire and see how much of a jolt he got. He said the new higher voltage stuff was a little much for that method.

  • @schaliejohnson9085
    @schaliejohnson9085 Před 26 dny +114

    FWIW, the bootlegs from China, that come complete with a laptop, have been great for me. Usually around $400 for a Mercedes STAR/XENTRY clone or Volvo VIDA/DICE. The only downside is you're not gonna be getting updates, and frankly, you don't want that laptop ever connecting to the Internet.

    • @ihavethedocuments2580
      @ihavethedocuments2580 Před 26 dny +16

      A lap top to maintain a vehicle
      That is simply stupid
      Sorry

    • @ingresswizard9044
      @ingresswizard9044 Před 26 dny +17

      I 2nd this. I have owned 3 different modern Mercedes and the Star/Xentry tablets from China solve this problem just fine and well worth the $400 bucks.

    • @NSR747
      @NSR747 Před 26 dny +3

      Vida/Dice you cant program most of the modules, For example diesel injectors, you need vdash or other software what Is not Free.

    • @Hrossey
      @Hrossey Před 26 dny

      @@ihavethedocuments2580stupid you say? I just ran an ABS module through an old laptop. You ain’t doing that in a Ferrari 612 Speciale without a $6,000 factory tick ✅
      Or a laptop and some white hating. Looks like you’re a fool.

    • @Hrossey
      @Hrossey Před 26 dny

      @@NSR747wrong, so very very wrong. All you need is a laptop and some knowledge. Get your white hat on.
      I guess to those 4 new injectors yesterday in that G-wagon codes themselves without access to any scan tools.
      😉 enjoy flushing your money down the 🚽.
      Watch as your pride comes out and you reply like a fool.

  • @user-hm8wf8wv1m
    @user-hm8wf8wv1m Před 26 dny +161

    This is why I like cars before cup holders.

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika Před 26 dny +18

      Honestly if I could find a simple 60s compact like a Falcon, Nova, Dart that wasn't rotted out, I'd buy it, rebuild the mechanicals and make it my daily driver.

    • @phillipsofthedriver
      @phillipsofthedriver Před 26 dny +11

      My '65 Dodge pckup had cup holders. That I mounted on the steel dash. They were "Bar Buoys" meant for boats with swivel mounts. Heh.

    • @jerrykorman7770
      @jerrykorman7770 Před 26 dny +7

      @@MrSloikaeven better is to restomod that old car. Although my dad taught me how to rebuild carbs and properly set points, I’d rather not deal with that for a daily driver.
      Just before the pandemic I helped a buddy do a restomod on a ‘69 Chevelle. Nothing outrageous it’s not a trailer queen show car, just a really fun and reliable cruiser.
      He got a 5.3 LS (Gen III) and 4L80E, and we debated what box to use with it. Went with the Holley Terminator X. The base maps worked fine, again nothing wild about this crate engine.
      The car has more than enough power to smoke the tires, will happily idle in rush hour traffic with the A/C blasting, and every cold start you just flick the ignition key and away you go.
      I wonder when the government will make cars older than xxxx illegal to drive?

    • @JAW1992
      @JAW1992 Před 26 dny +1

      Now everything is bmw to fix, their forcing me to only buy cars in manufacturers warranty

    • @texarkana3781
      @texarkana3781 Před 26 dny +4

      @@MrSloika I agree, a Falcon or late 60's Dart with a small block would be ideal. Not too shitty mileage and you can add electronic ignition to simplify tuneups and a Vintage Air A/C to be comfortable in hot weather. Say goodbye to "scanners"

  • @tommyvanpelt2408
    @tommyvanpelt2408 Před 24 dny +9

    I have one of my work trucks at the dealership for 3 months now waiting on a body control module... this is exactly to bring service back to dealers.

  • @kenc2386
    @kenc2386 Před 26 dny +13

    I’m glad you finally explained it. I’m one of those who will avoid the dealership because I’m not willing to spend $500-$1000 per visit I hope that Amazon power steering hose doesn’t need programming.

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 Před 12 dny +2

      It'll just need calibration LOL.

  • @SplosionMovies
    @SplosionMovies Před 26 dny +118

    Imagine if you had to pay Microsoft $10,000 a year to use /sfc scannow when you had a problem with the software they made. Right to repair is important for vehicles!!

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 25 dny +11

      Have you ever heard of Apple? They've already been doing these kind of tactics (impossible to repair without authorization code) for years.

    • @uncleremus3211
      @uncleremus3211 Před 25 dny

      @@noseboop4354 It all started when they stopped allowing you to just swap the cell phone battery out and glued it down. They want everything disposable so you have to keep upgrading and buying it again

    • @ardiberen
      @ardiberen Před 25 dny +7

      As someone who works IT sfc /scannow has not once fixed anything.

    • @Watcher3223
      @Watcher3223 Před 25 dny

      Imagine paying Microsoft a subscription fee just to use Windows. Of course, this hasn't happened yet ... and hopefully it won't. But you never know...

    • @Watcher3223
      @Watcher3223 Před 25 dny

      @@noseboop4354 My biggest gripe with Apple is how you can't upgrade the hardware unless you buy a Mac Pro that, honestly, isn't worth it at this time ... if ever.
      If you need a MacBook Pro and expect the system to grow with you, it can't unless you've already upgraded it to as far as you can anticipate your future needs ... which Apple will happily do for you at a highly inflated price compared to just buying your own parts and upgrading it yourself whenever it's necessary.
      It's that or you just replace the whole computer for a new one with the specs that you need when it's time to upgrade ... at substantial expense. If you want to stay with macOS and help mitigate the cost, you must sell your old system for as much as you can get for it or take it up the wazoo with a relatively paltry amount that Apple's trade-in program will contribute towards the purchase of a new Mac.

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před 26 dny +76

    I get what you mean with narrowing down the list. You need to pay 3 or 4 more manufacturer software subscriptions you don't have to pay for.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL Před 25 dny +13

    Someone told me to attach a battery tender to the negative and positive connectors when I change out a battery. Why? This keeps the car powered while the battery is gone. He tapes the connections so they do not fall off. Then he changes the battery and since the car's electrical system is powered by the tender during the short interval while there is no battery, the situation in this video does not occur.
    Great video!

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Před 21 dnem +1

      These newer battery developments tick me off as well. The control modules (in a perfect world) should be made to tolerate short period no-power scenarios w/o throwing a bunch of codes. But mfrs don't care.

    • @mhaskard6517
      @mhaskard6517 Před 19 dny +3

      A shop wanted to charge me $450 for the AGM start stop battery installed and $100 to program the new battery. I got a mobile battery guy who charged me $490 to come to my house and did this exact thing. Connected a battery the the charge terminals and swapped battery and no programming required and all done in 10 minutes at my house. The shop wanted more money and for me to drive there and leave my car there for a few hours.

  • @Rythsi300
    @Rythsi300 Před 26 dny +15

    There was a time when this made sense. Cars were being stolen and broken up for parts in the late 90s and it got to crazy levels. That all stopped when manufacturers started coding parts to VINs. Of course now they just steal, reprogram the whole car and ship it out .

  • @ihavethedocuments2580
    @ihavethedocuments2580 Před 26 dny +66

    These corporations and their stock holders only think about profits, and obviously the more complex the more expensive it becomes to maintain it.
    What they do not realize is the more complicated the system/society is, if a crash occures, it becomes infinitely more difficult to deal with.
    Many many people will suffer.
    Greed is destoying this country and the world

    • @steamboat75043
      @steamboat75043 Před 25 dny

      I am an investor and I vote AGAINST this kind of crap and the board too. They make they have enough votes to run the company like Putin runs Russia. Don't blame all the stock holders. We want to hold them to account. Everything in our society now has business managers who are trying to get every last nickel. We are in big inflation and we've been weakening anti-trust laws for years - time to do something about that. Vote for people who will put people, not business first. Judge them by their actions. Who lowered the price of inhalers? Why is it that the VA can negotiate drug prices but HHS/Medicare is having a problem and the companies are suing to prevent it! Our toothless dogs in congress want the donations so they don't do enough or often anything.

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 Před 25 dny +2

      Who do you think the stockholders are it's everybody and anybody around you so it's everybody's full

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Před 25 dny

      That’s the best part about the scam - like identity politics - it weaponizes the working class vs the working class in an animal farm like scenario
      All while
      The loser executives and Wall Street bros make all the $$$
      Which they blow on women they couldn’t get in high school 🤣

    • @mike-sk2li
      @mike-sk2li Před 25 dny +2

      Most of the technology is EPA mandated to meet fuel milage.

    • @steamboat75043
      @steamboat75043 Před 25 dny +1

      @@mike-sk2li and thank God for it. People don't realize the change unless they are old like me. I would walk down the street in the 70s by a 6 lane road and I could point to each car way out of tune dumping out stink a mile a minute. My eyes burned at times. Spark plugs went at 12K miles. Then there was servicing points. True that anyone could work on it. And a well maintained car could pass modern tests - a friend who is a diesel tech did it with his 1960 chevy 1/2 ton. Now walking down a busy street you have none of that. It was worth it for that alone. How often do we do plugs on a modern car? I have a 2010 audi I bought 4 years ago - nothing need for plugs. Then again, on the caddy 3.6L engine you have to take off the intake manifold to get to 2 of the plugs. Someone asked me if I wanted to do that job, and they would have paid me, and I said pass. There are many pluses and minuses. I had a full size ram 5.7 hemi and I monitored my driving. Even with occasional flooring it I still got 20 mpg. My only old truck I built that could match it was a 230 ci 6 I put in a 72 chevy 1/2 ton I paid very little for and rebuilt.

  • @MrJolly-lb9je
    @MrJolly-lb9je Před 26 dny +40

    Here in Europe new BMW Audi Merc models are the worst tech wise , i refuse working on them . 90's early 2000 where the best years for quality made cars and with just enough electronics not to be obsolete/outdated nor overly complex .

    • @chrishensley6745
      @chrishensley6745 Před 23 dny +3

      So True.....late 90,s on into early 2000,s on just about every make were the best looking back.

    • @RG-cz1tc
      @RG-cz1tc Před 23 dny +2

      My 94 SL500 takes OBD1, I bought a test kit for $35 and it finds me the codes. Works well so far!

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Před 21 dnem +3

      Audi are INSANE !
      They have the fuse box mounted underneath the leaky wiper fluid reservoir !!!

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 Před 15 dny

      Euro junk are throwaway. Pure garbage and they want you tied to the dealer. And after that are at best average vehicles. Older Benz are fairly tough and were at least interesting. Modern ones are shitboxes that are dumb and stupid to drive.

  • @arcticman700
    @arcticman700 Před 25 dny +9

    So glad you are still videoing Japanese and possibly some domestic vehicles. My favorite videos are the "buy this not that"! I hope you still continue do do those when you get time, including everything! They are really helpful to us normal people out there who can't afford and BMW! Love your channel! Keep up the videos!

  • @MrSubaru1387
    @MrSubaru1387 Před 24 dny +17

    $3000 Autel has to be used? Funny, just did this exact same procedure, in a Legacy, with a $600 Topdon scan tool.

    • @mikes-wv3em
      @mikes-wv3em Před 23 dny +2

      my $250 topdon would probably do it too.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Před 21 dnem

      Topdon tools are great and bargain priced.
      But the Autel he's using does have more features.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387 Před 21 dnem +2

      @@edwardfletcher7790 it really doesn’t. I have an AUTEL Ultra and Topdon Phoenix MAX. The Topdon runs circles around the Autel. Only thing his Autel does that neither of these do, is key programming. I have an OTOFIX(AUTEL) IM2 that does the key programming aspect.

    • @willmarx8649
      @willmarx8649 Před 7 dny

      ​@MrSubaru1387 you are the most annoying automotive youtuber. Let the know it all attitude go man. Also subarus are junk cars I worked for a dealership here in MN and you are the only Subaru tech that advocates for them for some odd reason

    • @johndavid3598
      @johndavid3598 Před 6 dny

      My $80 Topdon had bidirectional

  • @Barbarapape
    @Barbarapape Před 26 dny +46

    Having spent a lifetime repairing electronics since the early 70's the one thing
    that causes a lot of faults is moisture, and the harsh condtions that cars are expected
    to work through makes these faults even more likely.
    Sealing the modules just keeps some of the damp out, but extremes of temperature
    causes moisture and then corrosion in time, wrecking the pcb's, components such as
    capactors fail often going short circuit which then takes out the i/c's.
    Car repair techs now require fault finding skills way beyond what they used to ,
    scan tool codes only point you in a certain direction, it might be nothing to do with
    the cause of the fault.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 Před 25 dny +8

      Yup i quit being a ase tech in 09 i saw it coming as a PC builder since mid 90s. And i was the ideal tech, mechanical and advanced electronics knowledge, but was NEVER paid for my value. Now a commercial carpenter, happier, healthier, MUCH weathier

    • @Barbarapape
      @Barbarapape Před 25 dny +3

      @@captaintoyota3171 Not many will want the headaches of fault finding as cars become ever more complex
      full of modules just waiting to fail.
      Little wonder that cars are now written off with only minor damage.
      I have just retired and my soldering iron is staying cold.

    • @steamboat75043
      @steamboat75043 Před 25 dny +3

      but electronics have been going that way for years. I have a how to video on my channel for replacing a cheap relay to get the a/c to come back on with a 1997 town car. How often do we toss a whole board for a few components? On a 2000 LS400 the instruments died. Well the car was still great. I bought a 'supergauge' odb2 perm display and put that on the dash in front of my gauges. No parts available, and anything else was at the end of its operational lifetime. Even with one of the best cars ever made you can still find an acheilia's heel. (that and strut rods - other than that pretty bullet proof)

    • @watchmanonthewall14
      @watchmanonthewall14 Před 25 dny +4

      One of them could just bring their wife into the dealership to do all of the fault finding.

    • @Barbarapape
      @Barbarapape Před 25 dny

      @@steamboat75043 Most of the early electronic modules used off the shelf components
      and anyone with the right skills could repair them, i have done my share for the local car repair shops.
      Today with ever more complex systems that are all controlled by variations of the can bus system as the
      wizard has said, you can no longer plug and pray, the investment in the tools required to enable new modules to
      work is not cheap.
      Repairing these modules requires even more investment, the only ones that i attempt are the various actuators
      that control the HVAC systems, these suffer from split gears, sometimes it is cheaper to fit a new actuator.
      As the technology increases in complexity the more skills and equipment will be required to repair them, many shops
      just can't afford to invest in all of this.

  • @Michael-yi4mc
    @Michael-yi4mc Před 26 dny +226

    The complexity of today’s cars are discouraging the younger generation from being an automotive technician.

    • @leivabernie
      @leivabernie Před 26 dny +1

      That’s the whole point.
      They want to nickel and dime us to death.

    • @22lbsboost
      @22lbsboost Před 26 dny +48

      I don't think that's the reason, I think the industry doesn't pay enough and expects you to work your ass off. Doesn't make sense to become a mechanic for the most part in this day in age. I make far more than a dealership tech replacing auto glass.

    • @Unknown-pc9yq
      @Unknown-pc9yq Před 26 dny +50

      Making $20hr while the shop charges $150-350/hr is why no one wants to do it. I don't blame them. You simply cannot live on that. This isn't 1980.

    • @luisgonzalez8423
      @luisgonzalez8423 Před 26 dny +6

      It does make sense if your entrepreneurial I sell cars on the side and use the lifts at the shop I work at to make repairs on my flip cars way faster and better plus free oil and coolant , use your head and it will pay off be a dumbass waiting.for a just a check at the end of the week then mechanic ain't for you

    • @alanmartins6349
      @alanmartins6349 Před 26 dny +5

      Yes, because now you need brains to do it

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 Před 25 dny +12

    Euro Diesel Cars are programed to run 'clean' on the dyno. and spew unlimited pollution on the road. that is some innovative technology

    • @steamboat75043
      @steamboat75043 Před 25 dny +2

      VW got caught and that's how I got a nice 2011 touareg during the worst of the settlement for 10K. And it was in warranty up until 2/2024 and they had to provide a free loaner car. Everyone went ape and I said hey - it was a good car before the case broke - a good car now. Mine did go through a number of adblue repairs but on the dealer's nickel and after 12 years and 120K miles. So as much as I drive now - it should be good for a while. (I hope) very powerful, sure footed off road, and heavily built - still gets 26.5 combined for 5000 lbs and good performance.

  • @hunterprowsemrereviews9141

    What’s happening in a nut shell is manufacturers are trying to push you out of a vehicle in a year from the purchase date, and push you in a new vehicle, so they make more money, and you keep either a car payment or a loan payment. Gone are the days of buying new paying it off to own it, and keeping the same vehicle for 30 or 40 years, and expecting it to last, and hold up.

    • @MDAdams72668
      @MDAdams72668 Před 23 dny

      Funny thing I still have my 1973 box truck and my 1989 Deisel pick-up I also have a 1999 Saturn(daily driver) All three will be mine till I die I even have a spare ECM for the Saturn (just in case the old one fails)

    • @hunterprowsemrereviews9141
      @hunterprowsemrereviews9141 Před 23 dny

      @@MDAdams72668 oh nice! Yeah 50 years from now, I wouldn’t be surprised if vehicles from the 70’s and 80’s are still going. As long as parts are available to keep them going.

  • @ingresswizard9044
    @ingresswizard9044 Před 26 dny +28

    Not only is the maintenance discourging but no cars sold today will still be on the road and running 50 years from now.
    None of the parts like batteries or screens will be available as replacements. This is terrible as most cars prior to the 80’s could be put back on the road with many off the shelf parts and don’t need specialized parts.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 25 dny +4

      Exactly, pretty much all cars from the 50s and before you can either 3D print the part or have a metalworker fabricate it. Good luck doing that with proprietary computer chips that have millions of transistors.

    • @PiotrusNazwiskowy
      @PiotrusNazwiskowy Před 16 dny

      @@noseboop4354 cars are getting more and more expensive and technology is still developing. According to this it will be no suprise If after 50 years today´s cars will be still on the road. So maybe people will have to find the way to keep still using 2020's cars If future cars will be expensive as hell.

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Před 16 dny

      @@PiotrusNazwiskowy Good luck with that when 2020 cars use so many custom computer chips that will become very hard to replace, not to mention you'll need the programming codes from the manufacturer to make the car accept the replacement parts. Some cars have even locked the 12V battery this way. Only cars that don't have these 'features' have hope to survive until 2050, ie most cars from 2015 and before.

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 Před 12 dny +1

      @@noseboop4354 Probably a good 15 years from now, you won't be able to find the right scan tool to program the modules supposing you were able to find the modules in the first place.

  • @bobweber4180
    @bobweber4180 Před 26 dny +51

    Soon you won't be able to start your car if a bulb is out!!!!!!

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika Před 26 dny +12

      More importantly for the bank, you won't be able to start your car if you are a day late on the payment.

    • @RealGreyGhost
      @RealGreyGhost Před 26 dny +5

      GM is already doing that.
      Your AWD switch is broken? We're disabling A/C to make sure you get that fixed asap.

    • @gm-zz8so
      @gm-zz8so Před 25 dny +2

      already happening many cars won't accept LED bulbs...CAN BUS system shuts down the car and it won't start.

    • @evelynsahoe8896
      @evelynsahoe8896 Před 25 dny +3

      @@MrSloika that is already a thing mainly at "buy here pay here" used car lots, they install a GPS tracker and a kill switch in the car that the lender can trigger remotely if you miss payments and or they're gonna repo it.

    • @StishFicks
      @StishFicks Před 25 dny

      Stop giving them ideas, Bob!!

  • @big6316
    @big6316 Před 25 dny +9

    This right here is why I didn't swap an LS into my 1981 Chevy C20 pickup. When I put the new small block 350 in, I used a Holley carb and a one wire HEI to eliminate the Electronic Spark Control/advance module that the truck came with new. I also left it as a manual transmission. I can almost fix anything on it with a hammer and a screwdriver : ).

  • @Cassini-jr7oo
    @Cassini-jr7oo Před 22 dny +2

    Once these vehicles got too complicated and a ton of modules. After 2014 I gave up this profession people in my area started complaining about the cost of diagnosis. They just don't understand the cost and the knowledge you need to fix these complicated vehicles. Always enjoy your videos.

  • @jnljnl8485
    @jnljnl8485 Před 26 dny +26

    That's ok. My cutoff for vehicles is 1995. I've had newer and they just don't last in our 110f degree summer heat. I like wheel bearings that are greasable and replaceable easily. As long as I can get the ac to blow cold I will drive it. Someone needs to come up with a new take on Jerry Reed's dear mister ford song and they will have a hit song.😂

    • @tngtacticalmiata1219
      @tngtacticalmiata1219 Před 26 dny +3

      I've found 95 to 2000 to be my sweet spot.... I like OBD2 but, I hate canbus....

    • @obsoleteprofessor2034
      @obsoleteprofessor2034 Před 26 dny +3

      I had an 89 Accord that would blow fog out of the vents at idle in a 110f parking lot. Wrecked that car and bought a 94 Accord with their first year R-134. On the road going to big town for supplies was ok, but once we slowed in town and parked it for only a few minutes for pickups, it would never catch up until we got back on the road for home. Dealer looked at it under warranty and said "All OK". Sold it later and went to a 03 Camry...better, but no fog like before. Neighbor had an 86 Sentra with 350K miles. A/C had never been serviced (R-12) and it was ice cold.

    • @HoustonRoad
      @HoustonRoad Před 26 dny +3

      What happens when you can no longer get parts?

    • @rabidsminions2079
      @rabidsminions2079 Před 26 dny +3

      I have an 06 Ford Falcon here in Australia they used them as taxis very reliable. Has modern safety like 2 airbags, traction control etc. Look for something about 8 years old that is reliable if you update, an 8 year old car will have plenty of info online regarding reliability. Stick to Toyota, Mazda, Lexus stay away from CVT, DSG transmissions.

    • @Land_Raver
      @Land_Raver Před 26 dny

      ​@@HoustonRoad Continue sticking your head in the ground.

  • @vee4410
    @vee4410 Před 26 dny +54

    Workshops that specialise in specific brands usually do better.

    • @user-hi3pt3mv2i
      @user-hi3pt3mv2i Před 25 dny +2

      ive been saying it for years, lawyers may be good for dui, next one criminal. doctors same heart lung etc, they pic a specialty. now we are going to do the same, its just the way it is.

    • @murraymadness4674
      @murraymadness4674 Před 9 dny

      Everything has become like that, you need a tree specialist, a bush specialist, a grass specialist, the sprinkler tech, just to keep your yard nice.

  • @ericl452
    @ericl452 Před 26 dny +6

    I bought myself an Autel 906Pro-TS for Christmas. It was my favorite gift. I tinker enough with cars that it was worth it to me. It retails for $1999, but I got it on sale. You are correct about paying an annual software update fee. Still cheaper than taking my vehicles to the dealership.

    • @evelynsahoe8896
      @evelynsahoe8896 Před 25 dny +2

      if you're working on a car that has been out of production for a while you don't really need the latest updates, I've diagnosed plenty of older cars with my Autel scanner running 2021 software.

    • @ericl452
      @ericl452 Před 25 dny

      @@evelynsahoe8896 My newest vehicle is a 2012, so I'm good.

  • @kurtbennett1164
    @kurtbennett1164 Před 24 dny +7

    And don't forget the dealers love to obsolete or discontinue these modules pretty darn quickly

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 Před 15 dny

      Manufacturers actually. And even then they tender out the service parts for older models so NOT the same quality as OEM

  • @fboomerang
    @fboomerang Před 26 dny +18

    This is the reason we need an Open Source project Wizard!

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 Před 12 dny

      We don't need open source. We need legislation to prevent automakers from doing this.

  • @Vicstruction
    @Vicstruction Před 26 dny +36

    That explanation for the ECM vin verification was hilarious. "We don't talk anymore" 😂

    • @charlesallanstewart-kl2op
      @charlesallanstewart-kl2op Před 25 dny +3

      @Vicstruction :
      Sounds like a
      'Cliff Richard ' song ?

    • @MikeBMW
      @MikeBMW Před 25 dny +3

      @@charlesallanstewart-kl2op Now that is an obscure reference I totally love! :)

    • @raygunsforronnie847
      @raygunsforronnie847 Před 25 dny +1

      "It's not me, it's you! You and your non-matching VIN! Ima put my fingers in the CANbus and ignore you now."

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 Před 25 dny

      “Yea bye girl 💅🏻” -ECM

    • @kwilliams1958
      @kwilliams1958 Před 24 dny

      Sounds like an old Neil Diamond song!

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 Před 11 dny +4

    It’s not just a car, it’s a rolling computer. 🤖

  • @angrycatowner
    @angrycatowner Před 24 dny +4

    Wizard should mention that SAM modules are the achilles heel of cars too. The VIN matching and programming is a "right to repair" feature that prevents DIYer's from fixing their own cars. All of this is done to force owners to scrap old cars and buy new ones when they break. Car manufacturers are learning something from Apple Computer.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Před 21 dnem

      They can all go to h3ll in a Hyundai.

  • @emospodermen2525
    @emospodermen2525 Před 26 dny +28

    This is why i refuse to buy any new car. Ridiculous. ill stick to my 70s Beetle thank you very much

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 Před 25 dny +4

      90s japanese cars are where its at. Yes efi BUT its simple 12volt signals and sensors etc. Its easy. Granted i can build a computer and program it, yet i only drive 90s japanese cars. Period. Only manual transmissions. That way i can always repair them

    • @kingdomfor1
      @kingdomfor1 Před 25 dny

      I wish I still had my 62 beetle, my very first car.

    • @JamesKarne
      @JamesKarne Před 24 dny +1

      Me too I still drive a 1990 Lexus ls400 and 1985 Toyota pickup are so good and both engine are bulletproof. Im alway get to stay away from 2010s or above modern computers is nightmare for DIY. Also im remove emission control in my 22r engine make better gas economy and keep clean engine bay without nonsense emission protection. I will work on my Lexus ls400 to remove emission system too. I can’t imagine if you try to remove a emission system on modern vehicle. they will tell you not able to drive anymore of check engine light on lol 😂

    • @nobodymporta
      @nobodymporta Před 22 dny

      Punch buggy 🤜🤜..👍

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 Před 12 dny

      I can understand getting an older car, but that thing is a death trap.

  • @JamesHawkeYouTube
    @JamesHawkeYouTube Před 26 dny +31

    What percentage of cars are driving around with permanent engine warning lights on I wonder. Back in my day we never had that stress.

    • @lordchaa1598
      @lordchaa1598 Před 26 dny +10

      I have driven around with a “faulty tire pressure sensor”, for 5 years now. I’ve replaced the sensor twice, before I realized I needed the dealer to recode it. They wanted $250 bucks to hit 3 buttons on a tablet. I’ll just check my tires every now and then, instead.

    • @kenc2386
      @kenc2386 Před 26 dny +6

      Car wizard recently talked about that. Toyota and maybe Subaru will turn on every light on the dash over a charcoal canister or something else minor. They want to make you panic and go to the dealership.

    • @tngtacticalmiata1219
      @tngtacticalmiata1219 Před 26 dny +3

      Several of mine.....

    • @sarahstephens5966
      @sarahstephens5966 Před 26 dny +5

      Count me in. '99 Suburban, 282K miles, runs like new, check engine light on forever.

    • @InternetUser._
      @InternetUser._ Před 26 dny +4

      My beater car developed a CEL transmission code shortly after I changed out the trans fluid.
      Figured “we’ll, transmission is on its way out. Guess I’ll drive it until it dies”
      About 15k miles later, the light went off and has never returned. Delayed maintenance worked out that time. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @DK-sc4gn
    @DK-sc4gn Před 25 dny +5

    Not only do microprocessor controlled cars require complex scan tools, any and all personal data is transmitted over the air to the manufacturers site.

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 Před 25 dny +8

    Aftermarket EFI controllers (MegaSquirt, Holley Sniper, Speeduino) will be the future of many cars. open source software, with multiple part options.

    • @robertbell525
      @robertbell525 Před 24 dny +2

      These will only be allowed in non emissions areas or the cars are old enough that emissions no longer get inspected. But I can definitely see using them

    • @ProctorsGamble
      @ProctorsGamble Před 24 dny

      What is emissions inspection? 🤔

    • @MDAdams72668
      @MDAdams72668 Před 23 dny

      Illegal to modify emissions I was fined 50k for tuning a diesel truck to run MORE efficiently
      I wish it wasn't so but I haven't found anyway around that law

    • @robertbell525
      @robertbell525 Před 23 dny

      Where we are at, after 20 years they don't do emissions, but I think they still check for a cat. But that's only a few counties out of the entire state. Back in Illinois they checked emissions forever but that was also only a few counties. If I ever move, no emissions will be a requirement.

    • @robertbell525
      @robertbell525 Před 23 dny

      @@MDAdams72668 how did they know? On my cars, two have tunes and always pass.

  • @Unknown-pc9yq
    @Unknown-pc9yq Před 26 dny +33

    This is why I am looking at 25 year old cars. I don't want to be stuck dealing with all of this nonsense. Not to mention, what about all this connected cars that could be turned off remotely should you not what your told by daddy government. Miss something on your taxes? Car is locked. Sorry about your luck!

    • @steamboat75043
      @steamboat75043 Před 25 dny

      ain't the government doing this. its the people who profit by it - the makers. the government should be regulating against it. Although reading through 'Project 2025' I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to bring that in. I highly suggesting looking that document over before you just hit 'accept' at the ballot box like a cell phone agreement.

    • @richardspeakes2883
      @richardspeakes2883 Před 14 dny

      Pride monkey 🙉 😅😅😅😅

    • @robertwhite9898
      @robertwhite9898 Před 2 dny

      Totally agree! I don’t want a newer vehicle with all that nonsense garbage. I perfer a older vehicle vs all that unnecessary stuff

  • @AH-bm4ts
    @AH-bm4ts Před 26 dny +19

    that's why there are specialty shops like my mechanic only fixes VW/Audi & Honda/Acura -- only need VW & Honda tools. And I think fixing Hondas keeps them from going totally bananas from dealing with VWs.

  • @shemways8466
    @shemways8466 Před 25 dny +4

    Boycott companies that act like a mafia, don't support them in any way & call out this despicable behaviour. Always good information from the Wiz

  • @tomeauburn
    @tomeauburn Před 24 dny +5

    GM was reporting driving data to the insurance companies.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Před 21 dnem +3

      reporting = "selling"

  • @goodtimejohnny8972
    @goodtimejohnny8972 Před 26 dny +12

    The 900 dollar special from harbor freight will do that procedure. Next time I am in a Subaru I will see if my cell phone app will do it. The funny thing is my cell phone app can retrieve the pin code and program keys in under five minutes for my Ram truck. The harbor freight wouldn't pull the pin. It's a crazy mixed up world especially in the diagnostic equipment market. There are massive problems even with the dealer level laptop diagnostics. Anyone who has ever used a computer has experienced issues. It all boils down to compatibility. Hardware, software, firmware, operating systems, the server your tool is connecting to and on and on it goes. I had to update a tpms tool on an old windows 7 machine because an up to date computer did not install the file properly. It's an older tpms that you don't have to pay for updates, but you do need a computer from it's same era to actually update the damn thing.😅

    • @pablopicaro7649
      @pablopicaro7649 Před 25 dny

      not sold anymore, only can get software updates for it, thats like $500 each time

    • @goodtimejohnny8972
      @goodtimejohnny8972 Před 25 dny

      It was 600 dollars to up date it and it bricked it. It took me 2 weeks worth of emails from tech support, which if I remember correctly was affiliated with launch, ​to get the master software and updates. All is good now but what a fiasco.@@pablopicaro7649

    • @nealwllliams3198
      @nealwllliams3198 Před 25 dny

      I have a $100 amazon dongle that I have used to program a new key starting with no key at all and all SRS functions so far on a 2011 Honda. The app i am using is Ediag

    • @robertanna9964
      @robertanna9964 Před 25 dny +1

      And no updates or support on older Os' like windows 95 etc.
      You could just run an old OS virtually in sandbox but then the issue is the legacy peripheral ports.

  • @jynxclover2996
    @jynxclover2996 Před 26 dny +13

    You handled that professionally and yeah it kinda cleared things up, but it just proves I just heard what I wanted to hear the other day. I don't know why I was so upset anyway, Jesus Christ like I take anything to the shop anyway, I do my own work and know what I'm doing, thats why I love your channel, you know what you're doing. Relax wizards, I'm not going anywhere. Still love the content and look forward to more for years to come.

    • @AbeIsLincoln
      @AbeIsLincoln Před 26 dny +4

      He probably never shouldve mentioned it in the first place if he's still going to occasionally have domestics. No one would've even noticed. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I know I wouldn't have noticed, I just watch the channel for his knowledge on all cars, not a specific brand. Unless he's trying to deter people from trying to bring in domestics for repairs, but briefly mentioning it in a couple videos isn't going to deter much...

    • @namemcnamerton4249
      @namemcnamerton4249 Před 4 dny

      @@AbeIsLincoln no he said Hoovie and Euro bob, he aint working on anybodys shit.

    • @AbeIsLincoln
      @AbeIsLincoln Před 4 dny

      @@namemcnamerton4249 I know....

  • @RetroCaptain
    @RetroCaptain Před 2 dny +1

    This stuff began in the mid 1970s.
    I remember my uncle gave my cousin his old Lincoln Town Car (1989/90 I think).
    It was working great just had peeling clear coat in a few spots.
    Well it was "radio cassette only" and he tore it out to put his CD player system from the stereo shop in its place.
    Because the cars Security Module didn't recognize the pioneer stereo, it began shutting down features every couple days and eventually became un drivable. First the power locks stopped, then the AC quit. Then the power windows stopped.
    This was end of July, the year we had the Big Blackout
    Maroon colour car sitting outside all day on hot asphalt at work. He said it was so incredibly hot inside he was drenched in sweat after 30 seconds and had a half hour ride home (mostly stuck in traffic).
    I have this module stupidity hitting me now. The car was much more expensive to be repaired initially when I bought it now it's acting up and my mechanic says it's likely the ECU which is hard to find and harder to program.
    I junked so many old design cars that I wish I had a time machine go back and get them.
    Everything is this way now.
    The serial number coded in at the factory.
    Might as well weld the hood shut at the factory as it rolls out.

  • @fersaccon
    @fersaccon Před 26 dny +4

    It's getting to the point where some modules don't even allow you to reprogram them to a new vehicle. You have to buy a new one from the dealer and [then] get it programmed. Earlier you could take the module apart and find an eeprom that could be rewritten by specialized people, but as modules get more complex and integrated, that chip is no longer there and the VIN info lives inside the main processor without access. Think every module from every manufacturer has different specs, so one solution only applies to a single module from a single manufacturer.

  • @BavariaWerks
    @BavariaWerks Před 26 dny +4

    Your technicians are probably very happy you’ve narrowed the list of cars you will allow in the shop now. Working on everything isn’t easy

  • @squangan
    @squangan Před 25 dny +4

    Another online car mechanic recently featured a 2018 Buick. It had a long list of broken, leaking and failed items that left me I shaking my head, after all it is a 2018 m.y. not some 20 year old clunker. Conceivably a 2018 could still be under financing and the thing was a broken heap needing thousand of dollars in multiple repairs.

    • @oregonwinger64
      @oregonwinger64 Před 25 dny +2

      yes, Eric O. showed us how GM really took a dump in quality.

    • @robertanna9964
      @robertanna9964 Před 25 dny +3

      @@oregonwinger64SMA-
      The man's a legend.

    • @ProctorsGamble
      @ProctorsGamble Před 24 dny

      Many Buick models are Chinese imports now

  • @MarcoRodriguez
    @MarcoRodriguez Před 24 dny +1

    This was the best video ever to understand how and why vehicle maintenance became so more expensive these days. And the ludic approach of how the components interact ("hey, we're done. I'm not talking to you anymore") was awesome.😅 Thanks so much, Wiz!

  • @richard_honer
    @richard_honer Před 25 dny +2

    I like how resetting the VSC zero point on my 2004 4runner is done by jumping two points on the obd2 port with a paperclip and turning the key.

  • @JamesAllen300
    @JamesAllen300 Před 26 dny +5

    As an ex mechanic myself in the UK, I'm going to have to disagree with your comment that you need a high end tool to do this procedure on a Subaru. Foxwell NT 530 for Subaru which costs $160, will do this procedure.

    • @RealGreyGhost
      @RealGreyGhost Před 26 dny +5

      Right, but he runs a shop that services multiple brands, so an expensive Autel is generally the better option to address every car it can connect to, rather than buying a dedicated device for a single make on the cheap.
      $3800 is on the top-end of Autel's units. They have ones that are under $1000 that can do similar stuff but certain features will be locked out unless you buy the more expensive unit, or you're paying for their subscription service for the pleasure.
      The message of the video is to explain why its getting more expensive to fix a car for the most trivial of things and why they're no longer going to service some brands moving forward.
      Autel on its own is an expensive company to buy scan tools from - but they work. There are definitely much cheaper scan tools that can ready any car, but to code them requires a monthly subscription - but theres no telling if it can actually do the same level of programming as more expensive tools are usually known to do.

  • @taylorwarwick1001
    @taylorwarwick1001 Před 26 dny +8

    Family had a 2014 Outback from brand-new. Absolute pile of junk. Ate wheel bearings for breakfast, CVT went bad at 60k. Eventually got rid of that nightmare at 72k.
    I will say it did fantastic in the snow.

    • @thecman26
      @thecman26 Před 25 dny

      You must have bad luck, my mom drives the crap out of her Outback and at 245,000 it still looks new! Regular maintenance does wonders! It's a Subaru and should run forever!

    • @joetz1
      @joetz1 Před 24 dny

      @@thecman26does she have a continuously variable transmission?

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 Před 22 dny

      Subaru’s are very hit or miss. Toyota or Lexus for me thanks.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Před 17 dny +1

    I tip my hat to you for being able to choose your path in the auto repair shop.
    YOU DID WELL FELLA FOR SURE.

  • @AB-jk7tw
    @AB-jk7tw Před 25 dny +2

    It’s funny to watch you talking about limiting future domestic repairs with an old Chevy, which has been there forever, sitting on the rack behind your head! 😂. Love your channel!

  • @emtpayislow
    @emtpayislow Před 26 dny +19

    Every car has a screen. Every car should have this software in it standard. 100% anti consumer.

    • @amarsta
      @amarsta Před 25 dny +2

      In 1989 Buick and Oldsmobile did just that-- put the diagnostic tool in the screen, easily accessible by pushing two buttons simultaneously. That's why I always look for Trofeos and Reattas for my own personal vehicle, because I know I can fix any problem on my own

    • @schizophrenicgaming365
      @schizophrenicgaming365 Před 15 dny

      ​@@amarstaI have a 1994 Buick Roadmaster wagon. It is too big for what I need it for and am looking for a Reatta. I'm located in Ontario, long shot but if you are too i'll trade you lol

  • @nicolasfrankboehmer2240
    @nicolasfrankboehmer2240 Před 25 dny +7

    Had a litte laugh: You said "newer cars" when talking about vehicles being a quarter of a century old. Thus, I feel "as new" with my six centuries of age 😁

  • @davidboyden9099
    @davidboyden9099 Před 25 dny +2

    In 2007 I attended a presentation from Ford. They suggested a 20000 dollar scan tool. I estimate 30000 dollar annual maintenance fee to have all the scan tools you would need. This is partly why I am no longer working on cars.

  • @southerner66
    @southerner66 Před 13 dny +2

    Anyone who understands how cars work could see this coming. I know an Electrical Engineer who said he thinks cars peaked in electronic reliability around 2003. Every time I see someone with a car with all these new "features," I think, "Yes, but what are you going to do when that stops working?" One friend had his doors mysteriously start randomly unlocking themselves, and it took two trips to the dealership to get it fixed. It's insane. All the heat and vibration inherent in driving kills electronics, and the more complicated you make them, the more ways there are for them to fail. I don't want a new car at all with all this crap onboard. I own a 39 year-old truck, and it all works. None of this fancy computer-controlled gear is going to last that long. It will quickly become non-repairable, and you'll have a car-sized doorstop.

    • @johnbrooks9523
      @johnbrooks9523 Před 9 dny +1

      You nailed it.
      I own a 1984 V8 4 speed Holden ute here in Aust. Muppets are concerned about my fuel economy. The same muppets spend $6000.oo on a transmission rebuild for their 10 year old car, have clown electric windows that don't work, battery failure through faulty electronics, permanently lit ABS & Engine Warning lights, brown lensed plastic headlights, blistering paint, dead air conditioning & no heat emitting from the alleged heater.
      The paint on my 40 year old ute is still healthy & everything works exactly as it was designed to do. The V8 has travelled 220,000 kilometres & the tappet covers have never been off.
      Yep, I spend a little extra on fuel... About 10 bucks a week. My muppet friends have spent over $200,000.oo over the last 20 years alone on constantly trying to upgrade their junk before the junk suffers a massively expensive catastrophic failure.
      Modern cars are for spoilt brats & fools who just get robbed REPEATEDLY.

  • @weldingjunkie
    @weldingjunkie Před 26 dny +3

    Keep in mind in order to use the IM 608 mobilizer and key functions. You will now need to have a VSP security access you need to be registered to get it.

  • @joezanella8949
    @joezanella8949 Před 24 dny +3

    Exactly why I love my old car.

  • @megamort698
    @megamort698 Před 25 dny +1

    I’ve got a 2012 G37
    Its been mechanically good to me, DIYing some maintenance I’ve noticed many of the calibrations are in-car button dances with no hardware/software required.
    I’ve clean and relearned both throttle bodies, done the throttle pedal calibration too.
    After it got broke into I did the window drop-down relearn (goes down half way on door close when out of calibration).
    I worked at a Nissan dealer, and the only time the car saw Consult scan tool was when I was checking it out as a trade-in I wanted to buy.
    It feels like a solid mix between modern performance, and yesterdays right of repair standards

  • @tomeauburn
    @tomeauburn Před 24 dny +1

    My dad had an 80 Audi 4000. The starter went bad and they replaced it with a new one. Only problem for then was dad did a lot work on his car. They had put in a used starter.
    So my dad that worked for TVA found out about an engineer who had retired from TVA who had a shop out in the country. We went there for service and it was fascinating. The Engineer had gone to live in Germany and got factory trained for VW, Audi and Porsche. He was factory certified to do welding on the company race car. So in his parking lot he had Le Mans racing cars that have been wrecked. He was fixing them all some were well over a million. He charged 25 dollars an hr in the mid 80's.
    He also bought railroad service cars regular track and narrow. He would get permission to travel out west on closed or lightly traveled tracks. He of course restored the service cars.

  • @privateer0561
    @privateer0561 Před 26 dny +4

    The question of why modules/CANBUS systems were instituted in the first place has never been addressed. The popular answer used to be that it simplified wiring, but that obviously has been superseded by the enormous complexity and sheer number of computer modules used in modern cars. It is my impression that many of these are related to the vast number of options made available these days beyond what is really necessary to run and drive a car in reasonable comfort. Beyond A/C, cruise control, and a stereo, I'm at a loss as to why you need anything more. As well, the necessary systems that remain have also been made overly complex and unreasonably inaccessible (heater cores and HVAC components hidden behind the dashboard come to mind) I believe that there is some deliberate effort of the manufacturers to make this so in order to generate profits for dealers, but customers also apparently demand these heavily optioned and overly complicated cars, which, when out of warranty become nightmares. I will never buy another new car because they are just too complicated and expensive, costing 6 months to a year's salary for the average Joe and making people like the Car Wizard millionaires just for being a competent repair shop.

    • @MDAdams72668
      @MDAdams72668 Před 23 dny

      Yeah CRAZY I paid less for my home AND 4 bay shop in 2000 than the average car costs today

  • @R3TR0R4V3
    @R3TR0R4V3 Před 26 dny +8

    Well It's time to get good at hacking then. You're a fool if you put up with any of this "subscription based services" bullshit, ie. Heated Seats, etc. We can't allow that to be the norm, and we _will_ find workarounds eventually.

  • @MikeLyons2011
    @MikeLyons2011 Před 9 dny +2

    We need "Right to Repair" legislation to address this growing problem. It's not just cars, appliances are fitted with ECM's on their fans which often die and will kill the entire appliance if you don't notice the fan isn't running and the compressor cooks itself. The real irony is many of these things were added for environmental reasons, to save tiny amounts of electricity, but end up in a landfill far sooner than older appliances. Very Green I'd say.

  • @bsfisher
    @bsfisher Před 25 dny +1

    JSYK I will never be watching a foreign exotic porche,jag,Maserati etc. I don't care I will only be watching YOUR Toyota, Honda, silverado (my 2006 silverado WT) etc what me and my family own but you do you YOU ARE THE TOP 3 MECHANICS ON THE INTERWEB CZcams❤

  • @sayaben
    @sayaben Před 26 dny +4

    manufactures constantly walk the line for right to repair. it wont be long before independent shops suffer from WORSE computer programming locks and emissions

  • @DigiMannen
    @DigiMannen Před 26 dny +7

    My Ancel FX8000 can perform calibration for the steering angle sensor, it cost about $250.
    it can also do ABS bleed, BMS register, SAS, EPB, TPMS, IMMO, Throttle, Oil resets on top of diagnose for Engine, Transmission, ABS, SRS..
    Perfect DIY tool.
    I only do Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Isuzu and Subaru. and no older than m.y 2000.

  • @mattcollinson9959
    @mattcollinson9959 Před 26 dny +2

    Canadian here - Regarding the mileage reading on your cluster. Yes it's illegal to misrepresent the mileage as something that isn't accurate. You cant toss a cluster in that has 50,000 less miles on it and call it genuine. In Canada, you are able to toss whatever you want in the car for a new cluster if the mileage is off, then so be it. However, you must be upfront about the true mileage when selling or requested the information. Misrepresenting the true milage is the issue.

    • @ProctorsGamble
      @ProctorsGamble Před 24 dny

      There is a line on my state’s transfer paperwork to declare actual mileage and reason it’s not correct

  • @franknedobity2757
    @franknedobity2757 Před 25 dny

    Love your channel @Car Wizard. With all these car connections we need to replace our battery more often if not driven for long enough to recharge the battery and weaken it. I ran into many problems, understanding CAN obd2 and added networking was tough. I used to have to stop by a local Saab garage with the Saab tech 2 to enter the vin on the abs module or srs reset, which I often set when replacing the heater core in a few Saab convertibles.

  • @MrApplesaucestuff
    @MrApplesaucestuff Před 26 dny +8

    are there any tools to connect to terminals while you switch out the battery? this is an absolute scam by the manufacturers.

    • @k9under
      @k9under Před 26 dny +4

      Yes.

    • @tommyhawks856
      @tommyhawks856 Před 26 dny +2

      Yes, but follow all the directions for use when using the tool.

    • @ProctorsGamble
      @ProctorsGamble Před 24 dny +2

      Use jumper cables connected to another battery to keep power on while swapping

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic

    You need a scan tool to do rear brakes on a lot of cars. Shops charge a good bit of money for this service. Me, as a mobile mechanic, just seperate the parking brake from the caliper and push the piston back. 😅🤣😂

    • @jeremybirdwell2623
      @jeremybirdwell2623 Před 26 dny

      It is actually because of the auto-braking features on some cars.

    • @aaronkoivu
      @aaronkoivu Před 26 dny +1

      Never try that in Canada with the salt, I always go with the launch or Autel scan tool to reset the caliper motor/actators

    • @computerwiz4
      @computerwiz4 Před 26 dny +1

      Which is completely unnecessary and automakers have absolutely no excuse for this.
      Both my 03 and 06 Jags have an electronic parking brake, but to disengage it for service, you just hold the button down while turning the ignition off. No complication or dealer-level tools required.

    • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic
      @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic Před 26 dny +1

      @@aaronkoivu, pays to live in...SAN DIEGO 🥰

    • @danielkearns3600
      @danielkearns3600 Před 26 dny

      Try now if you don't have NASTF and unlock features with new requirements. You can't go in to epc service mode on a 2020 hyundai because the security key need to access any module because of security lock out on all scan tools as on to-date

  • @XXGunzNClipzXx
    @XXGunzNClipzXx Před 24 dny

    Also learning all the wire repairs, the common issues on each brand or model, each little thing that is normal operation per model, it can get over whelming, I work for a manufacturer and it's way easier just dealing with the same cars everyday and on side jobs I stay with Honda's and Vws which is what I'm used to aswell

  • @johnmatthews1768
    @johnmatthews1768 Před 25 dny +1

    I had a bucket list entry that at some point in the future I would find myself driving through Kansas and my 2006 Ford Crown Victoria would break down and require service at Omega Auto Clinic (I live in Long Beach, CA). Looks like that item will sadly never be scratched off now.

  • @johnboynb
    @johnboynb Před 26 dny +6

    So you are telling me, if I want to change the battery in a newer Subaru, I have to pay a couple of hundred bucks to recalibrate the car? No need of that.

    • @jaunteraudi817
      @jaunteraudi817 Před 26 dny +2

      thats the way she goes 😁

    • @Winner3ty
      @Winner3ty Před 26 dny +4

      Well, you can get a memory saver to plug in to the obd2 port too avoid the hastle...

    • @michelle-lz8tg
      @michelle-lz8tg Před 26 dny

      hehe..you wish that was all you had to pay...since you have no real ability to confirm the problem...you have to trust that dealers are honest.

    • @HarleySLA
      @HarleySLA Před 25 dny +2

      Not just Subaru, I've seen it on a 2018 Ford F150 recently (battery life reset with a bidirectional scan tool). Most cars are getting that way, if they aren't already.

    • @hotpuppy1
      @hotpuppy1 Před 25 dny +2

      Buy a jumper pack and connect it across the battery terminals BEFORE disconnecting the old battery. As long as the computer still sees 12 volts, it won't need to be reset.

  • @John-yf4ie
    @John-yf4ie Před 26 dny +6

    I lived next to a older Gentleman who grew up and worked for Rolls Royce for 20 years. He came to the US in 1996 and with wife he owned a Land Rover and finally traded for a Ford Tarrus. He knocked on my door saying his Ford would start. I was working for a local Chrysler Dealership and had several Ford Dealership friends so I called one of them. One of the Mechanics brought over a Ford Scan tool and connected . Within a second it found the problem. My Snap-On Scan tool did nothing, yet the Ford Scanner found it in a second. It was only a $20.00 part. The Englishman said he had spent 2 days with a multimeter trying to locate the problem. He called one of his old friends in England and told them the story and their answer is with todays so many computers Rolls Royce spends thousands of dollars in diagnostic equipment in each dealership to repair their vehicles!! My Snap-on cost over $8,000 and did nothing!!! So I ended up selling it. I'm retired now and I also spent had spent 9 years in the Military as a Military Police at Fort Gordon Georgia!

  • @danpinsonsax
    @danpinsonsax Před 25 dny

    I take care of my Mom’s 1992 Lexus LS400. I can read the codes on the dash by using a jumper on the special round OBD 1 port, but only the dealer can properly diagnose problems. I haven’t found an independent shop yet that has a code reader, and the dealer here in Phoenix is outrageously expensive.

  • @VolvoLaplanderCamper
    @VolvoLaplanderCamper Před 25 dny +1

    Very interesting and informative. Good selection of car brands.

  • @stevestrickland454
    @stevestrickland454 Před 25 dny +3

    Congratulations on achieving your dream of having a foreign service center Wizard! A well deserved reward to the time and training you (and your guys) have put in.

  • @notbanksy8294
    @notbanksy8294 Před 26 dny +4

    A local shop, where I live, offered to clean/restore the headlights of a friend's subaru recently. They said the shop wanted almost $200 for the job lmao. Chit is ridiculous these days.

    • @dickeyseamus
      @dickeyseamus Před 26 dny +5

      Sound about right with labor costs. It's not ridiculous comparatively.

    • @Capitanvolume
      @Capitanvolume Před 26 dny +1

      Doing that job correctly could easily take 2 hours, plus sandpaper and materials, that's not outrageous

    • @SkylineFTW97
      @SkylineFTW97 Před 25 dny +1

      Headlight restorations are just a scaled down version of paintwork. 90% of the job's outcome is in how good you do the prepwork. And that's a very tedious affair. $200 is a fair price for what it entails.

  • @Rundark-
    @Rundark- Před 24 dny

    I had to replace the ECM in a 1999 Hyundai Accent. I went to the wrecking yard and not only did I find one, I found one that rolled off the assembly line the same exact day mine did. Plugged it in and worked and still works to this day.

  • @HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq
    @HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq Před 11 dny +1

    My ABS light came on about ten years ago, I put electrical tape over it. Been driving fine ever since

  • @ChiEKKUsama
    @ChiEKKUsama Před 26 dny +3

    Even turn of the century cars ('98-'02) are difficult to reprogram. I've had to replace the central timing module on my Mopar twice, and you need a dealership tool to reprogram the key fob and vin number! So frustrating.

    • @michelle-lz8tg
      @michelle-lz8tg Před 26 dny

      eventually you will not be able to do it at all.

  • @rickc303
    @rickc303 Před 26 dny +6

    We're not concerned about Hoovie's fake "dumb" decisions, nor Flipper Bob who just buys creampuffs from estates to resell for profit

    • @Chubbycat747
      @Chubbycat747 Před 24 dny

      More dumb equals more views equals more CZcams ad revenue. Yes, very fake.

  • @Shauma_llama
    @Shauma_llama Před 25 dny +2

    I wish I still had my 2001 Mitsubsihi that I sold after 20 years. Sure, it needed a lot of work, but it wasn't burdened with too much computer crap, and you could still get your hands on things in the engine bay.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 Před 25 dny

      I ONLY drive 90s japanese cars, granted im ex ASE toyota/honda tech so i fix everything myself. But these cars LAST unlike new stuff

  • @tylerward6723
    @tylerward6723 Před 25 dny +1

    We've went from a repair your own vehicle that lasts 30 years on the road to throwaway cars that won't last ten years and need specially trained mechanics to work on them. Sadly Right to Repair has been fought tooth and nail by the corporations and governments.

  • @OutsideGroove
    @OutsideGroove Před 25 dny +4

    My Xtool D8S scan tool does all that $3800 tool does and cost me just $600.

    • @joecostantino3684
      @joecostantino3684 Před 24 dny +1

      My D7 can too, I believe it was $400 but I got it on sale. These so called fancy scan tools are becoming more affordable for the DIY'er.

  • @philb707
    @philb707 Před 26 dny +11

    An its only getting worse with electric cars, only the dealer will be able to service them.

    • @mikeross111
      @mikeross111 Před 26 dny +6

      Don't forget the 20k battery replacement costs...

    • @andersnilsson973
      @andersnilsson973 Před 24 dny

      Actually not. Teslas for example has tons of info in its own system. Another example, iD cars gives heaps of info with a simple OBD reader including battery info.

    • @CheapCheerful
      @CheapCheerful Před 24 dny

      Not sure about other electric car companies, but Tesla is doing it very differently. Their full in-house repair manual is available free on their website, and you don't need to buy their scan tool, it's just software you can download and pay to use for a few hours, a day, etc. They also have no scheduled service interval, and are actively targeting a "No Service" vehicle design as much as possible. You can also pull up the full service menu in any Tesla to read off all the codes, detailed system diagnostics and live diagrams, configuration and calibration for various things. It's quite impressive, no tool needed.

    • @sprockkets
      @sprockkets Před 21 dnem +1

      What's there to service in the first place lol

  • @johnfritz2944
    @johnfritz2944 Před 26 dny

    Great video Wizard! Thank you for the heads up!😊

  • @d0gZpAw
    @d0gZpAw Před 25 dny

    One neat feature that covers many Subaru vehicles is the ability to self-calibrate throttle position and re-learn idle control by using a simple key on/off procedure when timed correctly in the right sequence, with no need for any scan tool other than the ease of which to clear ECU memory prior to the procedure.