The dark side of Honda's worst engine
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Just bought my 1st Honda not 2 weeks ago. Love it! Got the 2024 civic sedan lunar silver with HPD package and the basic reliable 2.0 motor in it. Its my wife's daily driver to work and back. Tried to get her to agree to the Hatch trim with 6 spd manual trans but no luck. Already have 2 jugs of 0w-20 quaker state full synthetic oil and a handful of Honda oil filters for my 3,500 mile oil changes. Plan on drain and refill on the cvt trans too at 30-35k miles. Looking for 200k miles of trouble free reliability. Really enjoying the ride on this car so far. Enjoy watching all you Hondas guys videos too as ive always been a Ford guy and decided to try something different.
Congrats and best of luck! Thanks for the support
Good evening 1.5 liter turbo, Glad I bought the 2 liter
One of the best decisions you’ve made 💯
Now you can just add an ebay turbo 😮😂😂😂
@@BCautosolutions lol honda hrv is better vehicle these days the new one 2024 one bigger one with 2 liter non turbo.
I think the people that have issues with the 1.5 are people with mods or doing other dumb shit with their cars. I have had 3 different 1.5s since 2022 and have had zero issues… this seems like a driver problem to me.
@@luism8130 3 since 2022. How many miles total did you put on all of them? You are a very small sample size. I see hundred a month.
Thanks for your informative videos. I saw your video about that rod knocking problem. So, if I understand this correctly, fixing it's a gamble because a bunch of other stuff could go wrong, right? Are we just screwed then? It seems like the engine might die due to the potential issue, and fixing it might still create other issues.
So glad I found this channel. I have currently 189,000 miles on my 2018 Honda Accord when I first bought the car. I was putting regular fuel in there and I had to get the injectors replaced because of carbon buildup. I’ve been using 93 octane since then and had zero problems. Also, I do maintenance work often or changes transmission fluid exchange brake fluid exchange haven’t had any issues so far by the grace of God I’m about to change out my spark plugs and serpentine belt for provisional maintenance.
Best of luck with it. If anything significant changes, lmk.
I wanted a 23 Accord EX last year. It has a 1.5 Turbo. The insurance was 445 more. I refused to pay that high insurance. The Civic was 440 more. The lowest insurance increase 235 was the 24 HRV EXL. I got that. Glad it has a basic 4 cylinder non turbo.
Honestly, you bought Hondas most reliable and versatile car. It’s somewhat boring but ultra reliable.
Those 1.5t Accord head gasket needs to be a class action lawsuit..
Absolutely. I just treaded mine in last week as soon as I heard about it. It had 44K on it and it was paid off. I now have a CR-H Hybrid and I love it. NO more turbo's for me.
Same engine in the CR-V, so same issues. Awful
@@jacobpetersen5662 you made the right decision 👍
@@jacobpetersen5662so you traded something in based on hear say and not personal experience? Seems smart…
@@luism8130It’s not “hear say” it’s a design flaw with these over-boosted 1.5 liter engines. They are almost guaranteed to fail before 150k miles. Yes they made the right choice trading in before the value tanked.
I got 23 CRV. Runs like a champ. Oil changes at every 5000 miles.
Nice!
It’s brand new lol.
@@zacharycropper5532 to be fair in the last gen some had dilution issues at a very early point.
All good info, Thanks!!
Thank you!
Great coverage as always! 🙌
I have an Accord Sport 1.5T, I really love the 10th gen Accord and the way it handles, so I plan to trade it in for a 2.0T before it gets too high milage (currently at 45k). I do the oil changes myself so I know it's done right every 4-5k miles. I admit I drive with a heavy foot so I try to stay on top of it and check it often.
Thanks for the words and thanks for being honest.
Accord might as well go full hybrid just like Toyota. The 1.5T ain't worth the problems.
@@johnnybravo5044 it’s definitely going in that direction.
@@johnnybravo5044...I'm sure they will later.. if not sooner . The 1.5 turbo is too much of a reliability issue and it's costing Honda a lot of money in warranty repair cost..
Are the injectors for the 2.0t in the accord still on back order?
And how do you feel about ruthenium spark plugs instead of iridium on the 2.0t accords?
Idk tbh we don’t change those. Just get/stay with iridium
Great content; thanks! As an owner of Civic 2009 manual (nearly perfect ride, except dead AC); was looking for Passport 2021-2023; but one of your videos listed bunch of recalls. Wondering, from your opinion, which one is more reliable - Passport 2023 or Highlander 2023 (turbo engine though). Wanna keep for 10-15 years to. Thanks
I would stick with the passport. They have been pretty solid tbh (recalls aside)
@@BCautosolutions thank you for the reply. What's the chance Honda adjusted the production and we should not expect any old recalls for 2024 model (Passport)?
@@vadel251 shouldn’t have any carryover issues.
I keep getting fuel smell from the engine bay and into the cabin through the HVAC vents from a 2024 civic sport 2.0 L. Took it to the dealer and of course nothing is wrong. Any advice you can share.Thanks
Personally haven’t seen any issues with those engines (not saying it can’t happen). Take a not of oil level and have an oil sample sent out for testing if you want confirmation on paper. If come backs excessive, bring it up to them but most likely there’s little the dealer can do about it at this point.
Do you see a difference between the cvt and manual transmission cars? I have a 6spd 23 Integra and run 93, hopefully I'm good. I had a cvt Integra loaner and noticed the engine rpms were much higher in my manual vs the cvt car. Perhaps lugging is an issue similar to the way Porsche IMS bearing failures occur at a higher rate in automatic vehicles.
i would assume so
its a honda you need to redline the engine at least once per drive :)
can you also mention the typical mileage when issues you’re seeing are occurring? thank you.
The only issue that seems to sort of have a pattern are the head gaskets (most, not all fail between 40 and 80k). The injectors could be at any time tbh. Dilution is area driven along with the rodent damage.
I sure do hope they replace this engine with more of their hybrid plants. It's unfortunate, because pretty much all the other engines they have on their lineup are pretty solid right now apart from the 1.5 t, and that seems to be the most common engine they sell right now
Yes this is by far the worst engine (most issues) I ever worked on. They are definitely pushing the hybrids more which will ultimately be a good thing.
The new Accord’s sales last year were 54% hybrid models. It also helps that most of the trim levels for it and the CRV are hybrid only, and then we have Civic hybrid coming out at the end of the year for 2025 which people are excited about.
Had rodent damage twice! No gasket, fuel injector, oil dilution, or blown turbo yet..got the condensor and bcm recalls done, still waiting to do the fuel pump, 63k in...
Thanks for sharing. Best of luck!
Yeah I heard about the head gasket issues many times For the accord which is a shame cause I have a 2018 sport 1.5t. It has 45k and it’s been doing fine so far. I’ll make sure I flush the coolant soon though.
Thanks for sharing
@@BCautosolutions I have no idea if not flushing the coolant early enough has anything to do with it but I hope it helps a little at least. I’m not sure how what I could do to prevent the fuel injector issues though. Maybe premium fuel? cause I just use regular like Honda says.
@@michaelbanko9965 premium may help
I had the 2018 1.5T Touring with 44k on it. It never missed a service and it's been rock solid. BUT, last week I traded it in for the CR-V Hybrid 2.0L NON Turbo. I'm not taking any chances on that Accord. A friend of mine who's a Honda service manager told me the accords are now blowing head gaskets around 100K like clock work. High pressure from a turbo on a tine 1.5L engine was a bad move. The Civics are fine, as long as you're not in a cold climate, doing short trips. My wife's 1.5T Civic is a 84K and it's ROCKING.... but we live in Texas. Also, we always use the mid grade fuel. NEVER 87. That's bullshit gasoline in high compression ratio engines, NO MATTER what anyone says.
I test drove the Civic Sport Touring 6MT, the Mazda3 Premium 6MT and the Integra ASpec Tech 6MT. I ended up with the Integra and I love it. I was fully aware of the potential issues with the 1.5T engine but I'm 65 years old and retired and with two other vehicles, I won't be putting a lot of miles on the Integra so any engine issues should be years in the future. I also wanted to get a MT vehicle (since I've owned MTs since my first new '81 Accord hatchback) before Honda/Acura and any other automakers start discontinuing them. I also own an '18 Acura RDX with the V6 engine and 6spd trans. I've heard that's a good engine and trans combination. Is that right?
Thanks for sharing and best of luck.
I do like the v6 in the rdx although I’m not fond of the 6at. I would just get the trans serviced every 15-20k and should hold up.
What engine oil brand do you use in yours pilot and tlx? Thanks
Liquid moly
I used to have a 1.5T Civic before going with the 2.0T Accord. I was about to actually keep the 1.5T Civic but heard so much issues especially the gasket. Owned the 1.5T for like four years
Yup.
Im in NY with a 2020 1.5T at 25k miles while refueling with 87 octane (contemplating switching to 91) and always drive highway back and forth from Staten to Jersey. Back innovember of 2023 I bought this car at 17k miles from a private seller car was totaled before (only body damage to the side) leaving the engine and trans untouched. Manufactures warranty is void due to it being a total loss but only found that out after I bought the car and am now finding out about the head gasket issues. I keep the vehicle maintained fully and don't overlook that at all but not having a warranty really worries me when hearing about these 1.5T issues. What do you recommend I do in this scenario. @Hondamobilemechanic
I think unfortunately it’s a lose lose for you. I would keep it, use 93 and in the event the hg flows replace with oem gasket and get arp head studs.
102k miles trouble-free here on my 20’ Accord 1.5t. I only have a little over a year left on my loan so I’m hoping it lasts that long and I’m trading it for a Accord or CR-V (more likely) Hybrid!
That’s awesome! What’s your maintenance routine and fuel octane of use?
Trade it in right away! I just did mine. Accords are blowing head gaskets like clockwork just around 100K. It started in 2021 and now really getting bad. It's too much pressure from the turbo in those little 1.5T engines. They're worse than the Honda by far. Pay it off, trade it in while it's good. I just got a CR-V Hybrid Sport-L. 2.0L MUCH better engine.
I second, get the CRV. I just got the touring, I am getting around 38 miles per gallon and I drive on the autobahn. Best car I’ve owned.
@@BCautosolutions Sorry, I forgot to respond! I do oil changes every 6,500-7,000 miles (typically when maintenance minder reminds me,) air filters every 30k miles, changed tranny fluid at 75k and I use regular 87 octane. I’m even still on original brake pads. Average around 35 mpg on each tank driving in normal mode.
@@limitedreach4446 sounds like your mostly highway mileage which is most likely the reason since the engine is under minimal stress at most times. Thanks for sharing
I'm not sure if I asked this before, but would you still recommend purchasing AcuraCare for my 1.5T Integra if I already have the certified pre-owned extended warranty?
If you’re keeping long term, yes!
How can I get rid of speed governor on the pilot Max is 114 mph rn
You can’t without rewriting the software
Can you tell us more about the components in cr-v hybrids? How long should we expect the electric water pump, AC, etc. to last? Have you noticed these parts failing on the hybrid yet?
The hybrids have been solid with the exception of a few leaking injectors. Some older one with higher mileage are having head gasket issues. We have had only 1 in our shop.
Awesome, do you know if the car will give us warnings prior to a water pump failure? I know in the Toyota Hybrids people have been having head gaskets blown because of no warning to the water pump going until it’s too late. I think I may change mine around 100k miles just to be safe?
Good evening, I have 17 accordy hybrid touring...190k kms (canadian) while driving accelerator pedal stops working. Once you lift the foot off pedal and press it again it starts working again. Any idea what it could be?
Could be the pedal or the throttle body amongst other things no codes?
Here is the whole story....Bunch of warnings, break system ACC, collision mitigation etc. i replaced 12v batter a year back because of the same problem. I doubt that this is battery related issue now.
Two more interesting things happened yesterday
1. I could shift from P to R without depressing brake pedal (after I heard a lot of clicking noises from gear shif area i was sitting in my idling car talking to someone) similar noise like we get when we press the brake pedal to move shifter. For the record I still can shift without pressing brake.
2. While driving back home from work car started to lose acceleration- it behaved like i took my foot of the accelerator pedal however, releasing the accelerator and pressing agin solved the issue for a 20-30 seconds only. I pulled into a plaza parked the car. Turned off and turned on the car again all the code went away drove back home fine - but warning lights came back again within few minutes. 0:01
Keeping in mind the clicking sound of gear shift interlocking solenoid yesterday morning - could it be the brake switch? But then the question is, can a faulty brake switch make the car behave like i took my foot off the accelerator pedal as i explained earlier? Also, it is notable here that it happened when the ICE was on and also in EV mode.
I just now checked. There are no warning codes and now the shifter is also locked if I don't press the brake I can't shift.
Like everything went away magically.
Is the 1.5 T on the Acura Integra just as problematic ? I was thinking of one either new or used for my son
I have no reason to believe that it’s not. Still too early to see any real issues
What are common issues you see with the 2.0? I have the civic sport 6MT hatch. I’m fairly happy with it I really wanted the power of the 1.5T touring but didn’t want the issues with it and live in a cold climate.
We really don’t come across any on a consistent basis which is great. You got a great one
Hey, what do you think about the tlx type s engine being a direct injection system. Do you think it would be a problem over time because its not port injected?
Yeah, I anticipate some carbon building on the intake valves.
What do you do in a situation like that when the valves collect carbon. Is there a way to clean them? At what mileage do you think this will start to happen?
@@jromero925ify you can run seafoam. Probably a good idea every 15k or so
@@BCautosolutions I heard doing that can mess up your catalytic converters
This has been covered before im sure, but do head studs and a cometic gasket from new help abate this issue? Pre-100k mi failures are so disappointing to hear on an engine that gets great mpgs. Im debating buying an EX '24 or possibly waiting for the hybrid which would likely use the 2 liter Atkinson cycle engine that seems reliable.
ARP head studs oem gasket is the best combo for the L15
I almost pulled the trigger on a 1.5t Honda but I’m glad I spent hours researching. I’m thinking of buying a 2.0 non turbo possibly
Yes, great choice 💯
Same here, the time spent on research convinced me to get the 2.0L before I bought my new 2024 Civic two weeks ago.
@@Mr_Spock512 🙌
2019 accord sport 1.5T 152k miles with zero issues. Might be trading it in for a 2.0t very soon
That’s really good. Thanks for sharing!
What's your secret?? Do you drive it slow like accelerate slowly and hardly go above 2000 rpm? That's what I have been doing. I'm at 90k miles never had an issue
@@kurdi82 probably a combination of things. Whatever he’s doing is working
How did you have your head shine like that? I shaved bald recently but couldn't have it shine as yours. It looks cool not gonna lie!
Lmfao 😂. I have a light in front/on top of me. After watching a few recent videos I was actually thinking about filtering the light a bit (don’t want blind anyone) I don’t do anything special just soap and lotion ✅
I am closing in on my first year with my 10th Gen 2.0t Accord Touring. Love the power and ride quality of the Touring trim. Well worth the extra $$$ to avoid the 1.5t (L15) engine.
Keep up the good work and letting us Honda owners what to look out for.
Enjoy it 🙌
so the 2.o turbo engines dont cause any oil dilution or is it just the 1.5 turbo. I thought it was all the turbo versions that caused this problem
@@josegarza7719 the 2.0t can also suffer from oil dilution.
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Nobody makes it simple anymore
my 1.5 has been solid for me so far in the integra over 22k miles, but i don't see it lasting very long. I plan on upgrading to a type s/ctr anyways instead of upgrading this haha
The powertrain on the s/r is much more reliable 💯
Damn, so I have a 2020 1.5L T with 43K miles on it - what are some of the early issues I should be on the lookout for?
Nevermind I just watched your other video about this- thanks man! Great information
I buy Honda/AcuraCare for the longest term/mileage and put $100 a month in a sinking fund for routine maintenance. Takes a lot of the worry out of paying for unexpected repairs.
👏
Bought a 2l civic just because, not thrilled about the cvt but still
2.0 is a solid engine. Cvt is ok. I’m not thrilled but not as disappointed as I’d thought I’d be either.
Ditto
How reliable is the 98 Honda prelude engine?
Great engines but huge oil leakers
I didn’t know about these issues before I bought my 2018 civic sport touring that has the 1.5 turbo 💀
Hopefully yours treats you well🙏🏻
My 2017 crv has 88k miles can I still buy a Honda care extended warranty?????
No, don’t think so
60k on my 1.5t, going strong…
Did ARP head studs and recently ran a can of seafoam through the fuel system.. idles MUCH smoother now
Hopefully it’ll hold, it’s sad bc I really love the car and don’t want to have to get rid of it!
I think your doing it all and should be fine. Nice job
Did you do head stud replacement without head gasket failure?
Would be interested to know if you have seen ANY success with chemical soaks on 3.5L VCM stuck rings vs ring job. I put a VCM muzzler on mine for 100000 km and then I pulled it and now I have oil consumption
Honda mobile likes VCM. I disabled mine on my old accord, he said I shouldn't on my type s
@@Mike-lt6sj fair enough but I have oil
Consumption problems now.
@@Watchman999 you can try 4 QTs oil 1 qt atf mixture to see if that helps but the damage is probably done.
@@Mike-lt6sj I wouldn’t say i like it but im indifferent. I would prefer Honda would not have it personally.
@@BCautosolutions whoa. As in just put that cocktail in the crankcase for my next oil change? I was hoping you would say seafoam or Berrymans through the spark plug holes for 48 hours and then drain but ATF?
2021 Accord 1.5 - 192K uber miles. So far ware/tare and 1 turbo.
Thanks for sharing. That’s amazing. Care to share what your maintenance procedures are?
@@BCautosolutions honestly I just do the maintenance minders that pop up on the dash. I just don't do trans fluid as often as they claim every 30k. I do about 90-100k.
@@Ri_PM gotcha
The main one that really blows me away is the wastegate actuator….how do the engineers at Honda sleep at night knowing such a really simple part can’t be replaced and needs a whole new turbo?! Bushido code for the guy big time shame to his family 😂
lol yeah that’s some serious facts. Why can’t that be sold separately from Honda. Just straight nonsense.
K is THE way
197,000 miles
200 PSI ish on all 4 cylinders.
2015 Civic SI Sedan
FB6
K24z7
What’s your maintenance practices?
Remember I commented you few weeks ago about my wife's 2023 CR-V has 0 oil dillution? My bad. I checked oil on her CR-V this morning and it's way over Max mark, oil black like from diesel engine, and! Total mileage on CR-V 5971 km now, and I already did change after break-in period at 2550 km. So oil lasted 3420 km (about 2k miles?), Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Fram XG7317 filter... I didn't really smell gas, but definitely some unusual stinky vapours in oil. Didn't see a point to fill expensive oil if I'm going to change it every 2k miles or 3k kms, went with Kirkland full synthetic from Costco and Denso filter. Yes, I'm from northern Canada, and lots short trips with some warm ups as you can see from low mileage 8 months old car with 3500 miles on it, grocery getter and pick kids from school, but car always parked every night in heated garage where temperature always +4 Celsius (39 F) and more. And what dissapointing it's second after base trim without leather seats costs almost $50k CAD after tax at 8% financing.... For this money I can get fully loaded Mazda CX-5 GT with NA 2.5 bulletproof engine and normal 6-speed automatic. Does Honda's 2.0 on Accord, TLX and RDX has same issue? My buddy who own Golf GTI and just got Tiguan for his wife laughing I should go with reliable brand VW instead of Honda =)))
Thanks for the update. Yeah it’s really a cold weather/short trip, design issue. The 2.0t and any direct injection engine can have oil dilution but ultimately seems to be those 3 factors. Whatever you decide to do lmk how it plays out and as the weather was up, see if it diminishes/goes away.
Just avoid turbo all together
Volkswagens... especially the Tiguan is not reliable...😫....🤣
Almost bought a used 1.5T 2020 civic touring. I couldnt sleep well at nights knowing i live in Canada and i aim to put atleast 350,000km before some looney crashes into me then its a total lost. I have a 22 Civic 2.0L. Only the CVT keeps me up at nights now. Not the 2.0L engine lol
shoulda gotten manual
I did my research and now I’m thinking of getting a 2022 Honda civic sport 2.0 non turbo but I’m wondering if I should entirely skip this earth dreams engine and try a Toyota.
Do you get any oil dilution issues on the 2.0L non turbo?
@josegarza7719 if I were you I'd just buy the 2022 toyota camry that doesn't have a CVT but a normal 8 speed automatic transmission. The honda earthdream/K20/2.0L engine has been around for awhile, the CVTs will be the weakest point on any car with this motor. Plus honda reliability has gone downhill bro. Go toyota.
@@H2O747 ive been researching the 2022 toyota camry and theres mainly issues with the trasmission. Every car brand has issues but I guess i have to find the issues worth struggling with 😂
I wonder why Honda doesn't change their CZcams commercial to something like this: "Excitement comes standard with Honda Accord, so is the blown head gasket"?
To be fair we do see a ton of hybrids in the shop now. I think they are most definitely trying to start steering away from the 1.5t due to whatever reason.
@@BCautosolutions Honda could have started moving to another engine design sooner. Hope my 2024 Integra won't be in the same boat as some Accords.
@@Charkatak I agree
Yuup 2021 crv 90k miles and cyl #2 leaking coolant into the cyl... misfire on cold start just start 3 weeks I put a horoscope in it and you can see the coolant FML.. I live in NYC and idk how all these Uber drivers gonna be able to keep these crv's on the road with such a major manufacturing defect..
Does Cel come on?
Sorry to hear and thanks for sharing
Traded my accord 1.5 for a 2020 ilx a spec for peace of mind. Thoughts??
Good choice 💯
Nice upgrade
@@lefthanded5473 💯
I had a 2014 tl with the 3.7 which was also a faulty engine. I also traded it in for a 2021 ilx with a tried and true engine.
@@flacko001 pitted cams?
Which fails first? The 1.5T or the CVT transmission?
1.5t without a doubt
Honda’s CVT is very good unlike Nissan’s or Subaru’s.
@@michaelbanko9965they won’t last the long
Any major issues on the 2.0 hybrids?
Injectors seem to be a thing. We have replaced a few sets. Also there is chatter of some pistons cracking although I have yet to see one. The older versions seem to be having some head gasket issues.
The older versions were that accord engine, 1.5L Turbo, right? So head gaskets issues makes sense here. I have not read anything about Injectors in the new 2023/24 CR-V hybrids. I just traded in my 2018 1.5 turbo Accord to the 2.0L Hybrid and I am VERY happy with the switch. @@BCautosolutions
@@jacobpetersen5662 yes same engines in older accord with some minor changes. The hybrids seem to be fairing better
@@BCautosolutions Fingers crossed. I'm using 89 octane still... not sure I feel 91 is important on the 2.0 non turbo in the hybrid CR-V. 89 males em feel it's a fair compromise. Thanks for the reply.
@@jacobpetersen5662 I would still to 91+ but 89 is better then the 87
What are your suggestions for prevention:
-change oil within 5k miles?
-use tier-1 gas, medium89 or premium91/93 ?
-fuel injector cleaner every 2 months?
-let car warm-up a little before driving?
Yes, that’s a great start for sure.
High octane will do nothing
@jasonwilliams6005 it will lower your knock control
@@jasonwilliams6005 yes it will. It’ll decrease the chances of pre detonation.
Is the 2L 2024 civic a good engine? Not the 1.5 turbo..
It’s a great engine and will be highly spoken of on a video either this week or the following.
So I was going to buy the civic with the 2L but the dealership offered me an accord with the 1.5 t but with a life time power train warranty. So I went with it. Hopefully the ac doesn’t go. Any other concerns I should have from your experience?
@@Blackpets I have a full video on common issues with the accords.
My cousins brand new subaru has just as bad fuel dilution. It's unavoidable on direct injection.
Yup, it’s definitely a thing although some engines/conditions/driving habits suffer from it more then others.
I bought a new Pilot last month and the dealership offered me a 3rd party extended warranty for $4900, after saying no, they immediately went down to $2600. I told them I already had a quote for Honda Care from other dealerships and if they would match it, then I would buy from them. They said they do not sell Honda Care. They must make too much money selling 3rd party at a highly inflated markup. I ended up buying Honda Care from Hyannis Honda (in Cape Cod, you can also buy this online), 8 years, 120k mile with zero deductible for $1400. Seems like a no brainer to me to purchase the manufacturer's extended warranty vs some random 3rd party for half the money.
I have owned 6 different Honda's and 4 of them I did the extended warranty. In the 20 years of owning Honda's I have never had to use the Extended warranty on the 4, or had any out of maintenance issue. So don't know if it's even worth doing a extended warranty with Honda, if you maintain your vehicle correctly. The Manufactures know the lifecycle of their vehicles and 120k could be within specs of things lasting past that mileage like engine, transmission or other warranty parts. But I know that feeling when you spend $40k on a vehicle and they say just add $1400 to it to extend the warranty, I have done that in the past but don't plan to do it with Honda in the future.
I buy Honda and Toyota so I don't have to worry about reliability. So far 20 years later, that has been a solid play.
It is a topic I struggled with, but in the end I looked at it as buying an insurance policy, similar to life insurance; hope you never need but... It's not that I think the engine or transmission will go bad (even though this is a newer untested engine), it's was more for all the newer electronics/safety systems on these cars that my previous cars did not have. @@sn4rl277
Smart, you absolutely dealt with it correctly
I have a 1.5 turbo 2019 accord sport and no oil dilution and no problems with my car. I read oil dilution happens in cold states. I live in Arizona and I haven’t heard of anyone having that problem here.
Yes, primarily a cold state issue although in some cases can happen in warm weather too.
First gen 1.5t is poor. But the latest one is ok
@@user-pl4op7zp5m recently made a video on how the head gasket issue will continue off my research. Unfortunate I have no faith they will fair better but I hope I’m wrong.
My question is how does the 1.5T compare to other horrible engines out in the market ?
Comparable to fords 4 cylinder ecoboost imo
People still are buying Hondas. Most people don’t know about the engine issues unless you do a CZcams search.
The hospital I work at the parking lot is full of Hondas. Including my Integra. And I love the CVT transmission. Smooth and quiet. The turbo makes that small engine have some nuts. I’m not sure I could go back to an annoying shifting transmission.
Yeah there’s plenty of reliable powertrain options and this is just really a bad case of the one. All vehicles will have issues and at the end of the day people still need to drive. Thanks for sharing.
LOL, non believers!! That's true!! Every time I mention this on any Civic video review, people get offended!!
Sometimes facts are hard to swallow. Not all of them will have all these issues or any of them, although too many are.
The fanboys can't handle the truth lol, Honda's quality being not as good as it used to be is probably too difficult for some to accept.
@@aaronbryan5095 🤐
Chose K20 or K24, wouldn't let u down
Can’t hold onto those forever unfortunately
@@BCautosolutions yap
How do you know if your car has a 20 k24 motor
Have a 2011 crv 4 cylinder
@@tomtripptree5079 check your car codes
@@tomtripptree5079 you have a k24
Too bad about these 1.5L. I kinda like the look of the Civic Hatcback sport.
💯
Luckily the lower trims of Hatchback now come with the 2.0L, and the upcoming hybrid powertrain will be in the Civic Hatch
@@Blank00 civic hybrid should be great (I hate that I’m even saying this btw)
I'm still struggling with why Honda continues to produce these engines even in their latest '24 lineup. Why would they knowingly keep producing an unreliable engine and risk their entire reputation of being the epitome of reliability. I am having a hard time understanding why Honda continues to proceed forward with this engine package. It is not logical and is a form of self sabotage.
Subaru did have the well known head gasket issues with their EJ25 (non turbo), yet they continued to use it for years. They did work on the problem over the years. They did improve it, but didn't completely eliminate the issue on the EJ25. It might not have hurt Subaru as the gaskets didn't go bad until higher mileage generally
@@niuhuskieguy This still makes no sense. Perhaps I put Honda too high on a pedestal. I would expect superior engineering from such a company. Not one who is ok with continuing to use a problematic engine as long as it only has problems at higher mileage ranges or in colder climates. Maybe the past generations are no longer running things and the newer generation simply doesn't care about quality. It wouldn't surprise me since this is the way of the world these days. No pride in craftsmanship as much anymore. Only praise in the almighty dollar, yen etc. I am going to look elsewhere for a car. I was targeting the Honda Accord 2.0 but why pay the extra money for one if the company is only going to rest on its previous reputation instead of building on one. If I want a standard less expensive car I can buy a lesser brand. That is my point...eventually people will leave Honda for other manufactures. The only reason people pay a premium is for their reputation of reliability. When that is damaged so is the future of Honda.
Im not sure honestly.
Happy to own a D16! lol
💯
I received a fuel pump recall notice on my 19 Ridgeline, I make an appointment and bring it in for repair, and they say "Sorry we don't have the parts to fix it".
Yes, parts are expected in the fall unfortunately
Same in Virginia Beach for my accord!
@@obxguy1 yeah there’s no parts I’m not sure why they are making appointments.
@@BCautosolutions six more payments and I’m done lol
@@BCautosolutions does the 2.0 engine have the same problems as the 1.5? As far as the fuel injectors, misfiring, causing the cluster to light up with check, engine lights and messages
The 1.5t isn’t a bad engine it just requires proper maintenance, you can not prolong oil changes if you want this engine to last you have to change your oil frequently personally I own a 2023 civic si and change my oil every 3k miles
Agreed it can be “ok” although requires the up most care maintenance which unfortunately most people simply just don’t do.
@Hondamobilemechanic well, that free maintenance for the 1st 2 years is not good for me because my dealer said the " maintenance minder" has to com on before they honor that. So to try to change oil more frequently ( 3000-5000 miles) won't work !!! I don't put many miles on my car so it would take me about 2 - 3 YEARS before I got to 10,000 miles. So I paid for something I will Never get. And have to pay out of pocket for ALL my oil changes !!! I will never buy another Honda !!! Very poor customer service 😢
It is not a good engine for long-term ownership..👎 I switch to Toyota and couldn't be happier..
@@JanetVaughn-cm3et A LOT of the carmakers are "recommending" oil changes at 10K -- not just Honda. My '23 Tacoma comes with two years of free maintenance as well and the free oil changes are at 10K and 20K miles. I paid for my own oil change at 5K miles, got the free one from Toyota at 10K miles and will pay for my next one at 15K miles.
I'm pretty fed up with many issues honda now seems to have. I will probably trade my 1.5 crv in as soon as i can afford to take a loss. Will definitely get some other manufacturers vehicle, after being a dedicated honda owner since 1985. I think i can no longer trust their vehicle's to be dependable even with strict maintenance and care. It doesn't seem to make much difference anyway. 😢
Sorry to hear and I feel your pain. To be fair I’m going to follow up with a video on Hondas best engine.
Overall, Hondas are still great cars. Their decision to use turbocharged engines like any many other manufacturers like Ford and Audi arose from EPA CAFÉ mandates. In order to provide greater fuel mileage while improving strict emission standards, they began introducing these turbocharged engines. Similarly, they’ve also suffered issues with their head gaskets as well as other related issues. We service some a turbocharged Hondas in our shop, but we emphasize strict maintenance and the use of high end fluids and coolants like Honda or other named brands like AmsOil or BG Automotive. However, we advise our customers to stay away from turbocharged engines regardless of manufacturer due to the issues you’ve encountered.
In Canada the Toyota rav is cheaper than the honda crv. Toyota rav hybrid gets better gas milage than the crv hybrid. With all the problems with 1.5 why buy a honda.
I had a ‘17 crv 2.4L lx. Besides being basic it was a great car, unfortunately it was rear ended and wasn’t right after it was fixed. I traded it for a CPO ‘20 Pilot exl, lemon. Currently in a ‘23 Pilot, how are they? I know they changed the engine from the previous generation.
@@BCautosolutionsThe K24!!
I’ve got a 2020 Civic Si
Fun to drive
Ditching the 2.4L for this 🤦♂️
Epa…
@@BCautosolutions 🤧🤧 💔
@@hitbyGROSJEAN I hear ya
ALL companies have done this. Blame the government.
@@jacobpetersen5662 yup
Getting ready to dump my 2017 CRV because it just passed 100k miles. Getting rid of it before turbo failure.
What are you thinking about replacing it with ?
@@BCautosolutions 2024 Honda CRV because its a more basic engine without turbo or DGI injection
@@rickslick I like it. Looking good thus far.
Could the fact the Accord is heavier than the Civic have anything to do with head gaskets? More likely to lug the engine on a heavier car.
More like the turbo psi output and the more aggressive map imo.
@@BCautosolutions That would make sense for a heavier car that you're trying to make as sporty as a lighter civic.
@@rolandotillit2867 yep
What’s the worst 3 engines?
Going to make a video on that soon.
2017 1.5t with 192,000 miles.
Cold start rough idle until it starts to warm up.
North central Ohio climate.
Drive the hell out of it.
Do you plan on addressing the issue? 😅
@@BCautosolutions If allowing it to warm up all the time and taking it on long drives os considered addressing it, then yes.
If not, then no. 😂
It’s paid off. We’ve let our sons borrow it, and we got a Tacoma that we mostly drive now.
But I have always admired how Hondas will still run even when they’re broken.
@@user-zy5zw7bl4v well I appreciate your honesty 😅
Honda now offering rat trap accessories for under the hood.
That’s been available for decades now.
As a c27 owner, this motor is probably the BEST in comparison.
Oldie but a goodie 💯
J series is supreme🥳
J series also have their problems but much better option then the 1.5t
Small Turbos are never a good idea.
Especially with reckless maintenance
Well the GR Corolla and Yaris 1.6 is pretty good but they overbuilt that one.
Mine runs great !!!! Still better than more than most cars ou there.
That’s good to hear 💯
The only time to buy an L15 is in a Fit where it is N/A. Legit the only good L15 engine lol
Literally just made a short on that 😅
The L series was born to be a family of cheap to build and efficient naturally aspirated engines for subcompacts anyways, originally was never meant to be turbocharged and installed in Honda's larger cars, but Honda these days is such a cheapskate that instead of designing a new engine they just keep hacking up their old engines and pushing them beyond their original intended usage.
@@aaronbryan5095 🤐
What’s Honda’s top 3 engines?
1.8, 2.0, 3.5 (non-VCM)
k20, k24
I’m making a video on the best engine followed by best/worst 5 engines imo. There’s going to be some surprises 😅
Current production in my opinion is 2.0t, 3.5 SOHC (VCM issues fixed from previous gens, haven't seen failures of revised injectors yet), 2.0 NA. Too early to tell on the DOHC 3.5 but we haven't seen any serious issues in the shop. Have heard of some though.
Previous gens, probably the old k24 and pre VCM J series beat out the 2.0NA and J35Y6. I'm not a fan of the 1.8... still see them roll in with cracked blocks to this day.
K20, K24
I still have a 2003 Honda Odyssey with 140,000 miles how are the engines in that.. I am the original owner
Engines are solid, the transmissions are not.
@@BCautosolutions I do a tranny fluid change every 30,000 been doing it since it was brand new at this stage of the game. I think I’ll be all right with the transmission I’ve heard the horror stories also mine is fine.
I own a 19o5 honda odyssey ex with 415,000 miles very reliable. Timing belt let go on hwy valves bent pulled head and repaired all
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh Wow…mine is a exl.. everything still works on DVD player CD player cassette player and seat. Warm is still work. These things are built crazy tough mines 21 years old. Crazy. Good luck with yours. Keep it going.
@@PeterHernandez-lg2eh uff that’s awesome! (Except the bent valves part)
In my opinion, stay away from small turbo direct injection and EVs. The problems will cost more than the gas you save.
I agree
whats wrong with evs?
Bring back the 2.4.
Not gonna happen
Honda ditched the K24, CRV used to be great, super reliable, bring back the K24
EPA regulations 😬
@@BCautosolutions please it’s only 2.4L…. I drive a 3.5 V6 and I still want more displacement, V8, V10, bring out the big boys
@@jtomtl shoot Honda an email and voice your concerns 😅 I would love a Honda v8 as well.
@@BCautosolutions I actually wondered why Honda didn’t build a V8, they definitely could have built one, probably because Honda’s goal is always reducing C02
@@jtomtl yet some people still dare to call Honda as the best engine manufacturer in the world lmao, a company that has never even produced V8s, V10s and V12s for production cars, unlike a certain other Japanese car manufacturer that starts with the letter T.
How do you work for Honda and trash them?
I also praise them when there’s a reason to. I don’t work for Honda. I work for a Honda dealer which is independently owned. Have to be honest with what I see on the field or you rather I cherry coat the issues?
@@BCautosolutionsyou are the saving grace for people considering Hondas and the truth always comes out. I like what he says and always true to his word
@@alvinsimba734 all manufacturers have issues. Some people talk about them some don’t. I call him how I see it both when it’s good and bad news.
@@BCautosolutionsHonda used to make bulletproof cars. Not so much now. I had a 1991 ex hatch that was a SOLDIER. I was a teen and treated it like garbage and it never failed on me. I ended up crashing it like a dumbass.
I know that Honda hasn’t been as reliable in the last 8 years. I’m was considering buying a 2022 Honda civic sport, 2.0L, non turbo but now I’m considering if I should avoid the earth dreams engine overall. What Honda is worth it? Should I just go to Toyota?
Are the 2.0L, non turbo engines having any problems with oil dilution or are they good?
@@josegarza77192.0L is a solid engine. We don’t see many issues at all with them. Buy with confidence.
Hi wao 1,5 turbo
2.0t much better. 🙌
You know, I don't really think Honda is doing this on purpose. Their hands are tied due to strict emissions regulations these days. Honda knows that their previous engines were better.
I agree 💯.
Don't understand why the same engine behaves differently in different models.
Different turbos and maps.
@@BCautosolutions oh, so not exactly the same engine.
@@AR-rs2dy same family, slightly different variable
So it's still better than GM's...all of them?
Probably lol. My 17 Silverado was a POS
My 2018 Accord with 128k miles… just now started with the fuel injector misfires. I did everything right from day 1. Pennzoil platinum 0w-20, purolater oil filter, top tier gas, injector cleaner every oil change (3-4K), cvt oil change every 30k. I’m gonna milk this car along another 6 months until it’s paid off. Not gonna pass it off to another unsuspecting bastard. #lasthonda
Is this the 1.5 turbo?
@@Blackpets yes it is… I’m still nursing it along, I hit the turbo the other day and she got up! We’ll see how it goes
Honda is sad now. I’ve owned 10, I’d never buy anything past 2011.
I have always said the 2011 Accords and below are the best.. no direct injection and no CVT transmissions.. however the 2013 to 2017 Accord V6 and 6 speed Transmissions are pretty good .👍
There’s still good ones.
Maybe honda doesnt care about the 1.5. They are probably concentrating their R&D for hybrids and future EV vehicles. I know of alot of long term honda owners not going back because of the 1.5. How could the best engine builder in the world blow their reputation on this one engine. How will they get these customers back in the future. I will be getting rid of my 2019 crv with the 1.5. The only honda ill keep is my snowblower.
Im not sure what’s going on tbh but its disappointing to say the least. Hopefully Honda can regain consumer confidence moving forward.
That is what I think to be honest. I think they are ditching the 1.5T after this generation. Most likely during the initial development they just saw the amazing cooling it had and emissions they glossed over it and assumed that since it’s built on the L series that is in the fit it shouldn’t have major issues. They are replacing all their top trim models with 2.0. Just they need to make up the R&D and will just take the losses. Admitting there is an issue could harm them worse. They know it’s a problem. We will soon find out in 2-3 more years when the 16-18 year models begin to show their age. They we could potentially see an extension if needed.
@@theholt2ic219 could all very well happen and I think also the 1.5t will be done after this generation and the big push for hybrid/ev is on everyone’s agenda.
I think the 1.5 will be phased out. With the 2.0 Atkinson cycle engine hybrid to be there main power plant . No way that the 1.5 will be a high milage engine in any cold climate.
@@m109r agreed
Had a rodent damage on 2017 Civic three times, called Honda customer service and asked if I can buy a non soya harness, or how to protect it, and answer was: I DONT KNOW - WE CANNOT HELP YOU ! Wrote everything down and sent to CEO in Japan. Our Honda # 8 - and last one. 👎
Sorry to hear. They could have recommended rodent tape which has a high success rate. It’s also not an Honda only issue. Thanks for sharing
@@BCautosolutions They devoured this Honda rodent tape first night. Then I found electric wire animal protection 12mm sleeve, that is made of the Extra Tough fibers, and looks like this solved the problem. I just hate how Honda ignored when I asked them for help.
@@tomc.2808 can you provide a link to what you used? Typically I use 3-4 layers of rodent tape and it works for me.
@@BCautosolutions I did two thinks: I removed cover under engine and sprayed top side with two layers of the black acoustical paint that created base for the next mix of the clear paint mixed with concentrated hot pepper liquid that then covered entire surface and dried. Next I wrapped wire with Honda rodent tape and covered with ZhiYo 1/2 inch Cable Sleeve, Cord Wrap Wire Protector Tubing for Pets - from amazon....
@@tomc.2808 thanks for sharing, possible that approach can help others out there. 🙌
FUD
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21 civic sport hatch, 13k miles just bought out lease & about to flip it to Carmax, had rodent chew wires, very bad business by Honda, also notice some small electrical issues. I was surprised that carmax is offering 23.6 for 3 yr old car, but can’t complain, gotta sell before rodents chew the rest of wires lol never gonna consider Honda again.
Sorry to hear but rodents is not isolated to Honda. Our Toyota sister store across the street has rodent damage as well. Best of luck on what you decide either way 👍🏻
@@BCautosolutionsI know you mentioned this before but an engine cover is the answer to most of these issues. I don’t understand why they don’t use engine covers but the only saving grace on my Toyota Corolla is that underneath the vehicle where the engine is, it’s covered and rodents will have a hard time getting to the wires.
2021 4Runner and I’m in North Texas . Had rodent damage on my Toyota 4Runner.
@@alvinsimba734 yes a cover can help
@@4Runner21 yup, it’s definitely an automotive thing in general unfortunately
click bait . ..........................
How? It’s a horrible engine and I listed the reasons why….
@@BCautosolutionssome people are blinded by brand loyalty lol.
Some people are blinded by personal bias@@alvinsimba734
Car worship
Sorry but you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Ok
So I’m safe in my 2016 Honda Fit 1.5L I’m guessing this is a Turbo issue.
Yes, you’d be correct.