CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE MEGUIARS ULTIMATE COMPOUND VS 3D ONE
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- CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE: MEGUIARS ULTIMATE COMPOUND VS 3D ONE
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I just used meguiars ultimate this weekend by hand and got great great results. I'm going to buy a polisher for Father's day
Get a polisher?
@@Evadingmoto yes sir. I bought a maxshine machine. Only used it a few times but it got my car looking great. And then I protected it. Still looks great.
I just picked up the old HF polisher with a 5” and 3” backing plates and the Chemical Guys Hexlogic pads. I’m new to paint correction and just did 2 of our cars with Maguire’s ultimate polish and the orange hexlogic pad. Actually got a ton of light scratches/swirls and 95% of the water spots on my wife’s car.
I love Meguirs Ultimate Compound , it works flawlessly and it is easily available just at my local retail even though I am a weekend warrior any vehicle I do comes out fantastic......
3d one and ACA 500 are my main 2 these days. 3d one works great in direct sunlight as well.
When you said you’ve seen the Meguiars “do some serious damage” against another product, I instantly thought it ruined a paint job. Probably not the best choice of words to describe a detailing product.
I’ll try to pick my words more carefully next time
@@autodetailingpodcast - I had no problem discerning the word in the context you were using.
Do your thing JB.
His name say it all
Dick Fitzinya same
@@autodetailingpodcast I gotta be honest, I thought the same thing, but within a couple of minutes of that I knew what you meant.
I just used the Meguiars Ultimate after exclusively using Menzerna and the result was brilliant and saved me a lot of time!
I use both. I’d say that if you get familiar with both, you really want to always have both available at your disposal.
3D to me is a better polish, and UC is a better compound IF you time the working time properly. If you get that right with a green pad, it works wonders.
That said, if there’s one to take to the grave, it’s 3D. So flexible, lasts forever, no dust, and beyond consistent. If you team 3D with a wool or microfiber pad, you’ll be amazed at what it can tackle.
Another product I really like for super-tough jobs is Xtreme Solutions LVR 321 Knockout. Yes, it will dust some, but it goes after 1,000-grit problems without hesitation. Great to have handy when you need to cut fast.
Tried both. I'll get the 3D One anytime of the day!
Just picked up UC and its counterpart UP. Awesome results on a black car for a shadetree guy. 👍
Nice job, Jimbo. Glad you address the negative comments, but don't waste a bunch of time on the negative stuff. Too much good information coming out of your channel to worry about that crap. Keep it up.
Thanks man!
I have used porter cable for over ten years as well. Works fine!
Love ultimate compound very underrated
Definitely is!
Which one is better Meguiars ultimate compound or Meguiars 105? Thanks in advance
Yup, people paying a lot more for less quality and performance.
Why TF does megs have 50 different compounds I’m just trying to get started and have minor spiderweb on a 2 year old truck. No clue what pads to run what buffer or compound. The only thing that makes sense is 3M’s 123 steps with 123 pads
I agree 100%! So underrated. I always get a class job using it! :)
DUDE. THANK YOU. Like seriously thank you. I’m what one would call an “amateur” detailer and your videos have helped me out alot. Especially this one
Juan Beltran I appreciate that man - people like you is why I do these so thank you!
Using Mequiars Ultimate Compound, Polish, and Wax with a Chicago Pneumatic Platinum DA polisher, Lake Country backing pad, and Hex-Logic Buffing Pad Kit. Paid for itself with the first detail of my personal vehicle. Very pleased with the results and I did not spend an arm and a leg. Have a couple more cars to do and with the confidence these products induce, remove all hesitation for a do it yourselfer.
MEGUIARS works great on model car finishes as well. Tried some on Tamiya LP40 lacquer (Metallic Black ) with nice results. Clear coat afterwards for some depth. Just manually do it with Novus cloth and a light touch. Practice on some spoons first.
Thanks for the video brother, I looooove my Porter Cable and I love the haters who's never even tried it.
Man I started on a rotary. I have Rupes duetto and mini, a flex 3401...
Guess which tool I use the most.
The original PC 7424, like Jimbo is using.
It's light, cheap, and reliable.
I just picked another used one on ebay for under $50.00.
I haven't tried the porter cable. But I do have a harbor freight and after I changed the grease it runs great. I have nicer models but nothing wrong with the "cheaper" models.
Porter Cable is tried and true. Been around for years and before the explosion of polishers it was the one to have. Technique trumps machine most times. Sure long throws may work faster sometimes, but you can get great work done with the "cheaper" machines too.
I’ve used both HF and PC side by side, and actually prefer the additional power of the HF. The PC is quieter, and likely higher quality, maybe last longer. But for the lower price??? HF for the win!
danlc95 thanks for sharing, I've never felt the need to ever buy something else when I get great results for my side job. I'm not a daily detailer but definitely a weekend one and at the end of the day, technique, pad choice, temperature, product, etc... All play a huge roll. I've always learned just pick one and master it. It does stall but not as much as my buddies Griots 6"
2010stoof u hit the nail on the head with technique. I feel sorry for detailers who get sucked into the marketing hype of certain products and polishers. 2 years and over 40 cars later I've never had a dissatisfied customer. Thanks for sharing
MUC is really a great product. I just had an aluminum car carrier with 188 feet of tree branch scratches. Client loves Meguiar's products and always wants me to use them. MUC teamed with the Rupes Wool Polishing pads took out the scratches efficiently while not being too aggressive on the thin enamel paint.
I love those dinosaur Porter Cables one of the best reliable machine in the market...I'm old school if its not broken why replace it...
Same here man! Somehow more torque than the xp version.
U just earned a loyal sub you speak detailing gospel and your mind set is normal consumer help not detailer of Bugatti chirons
Awesome video Jimbo. Being new to detailing I have had great results from the ultimate compound. After making a pass with my DA, I like being able to reference the pass markings from the compound and pad. I noticed that the 3D one creates less of a visual as the product is worked in. For me this visual reference helps me ensure I have good coverage and overlap. I am sure as I process with this passion, my opinions of products and how they apply may change. But for now…I have been satisfied with the results carried out from my basic 6” DA. Thanks for putting together this video that relates to the diy weekend warrior enthusiasts 🤙
Awesome! Glad you’re enjoying detailing it’s very rewarding.
Thank you for the awesome video, I'm a professional detailer and I religiously use 3D. I have never use Maguires, I will probably give it a shot.
Weekend warrior. FG400 and TLC. Thanks for all your videos brother.
Thanks for watching them!
I’ve been using UC and pair it with M205. Don’t underestimate the ultimate compound like he said, it can do serious damage lol I tried UC on 3000 grit before and I knew UC could take it out. Good stuff brotha 🤙🏻
UC and 205 is a phenomenal combination. I’ve even used it on brass instruments!
Love this vid and the commentary. Had to like and subscribe for that sign off. We appreciate you man
Thanks!
I love Ultimate Compound! Just found it at my local Menards for 8.98! I am well stocked!
Score!
I love these cheap vs expensive shootouts! Ultimate Compound is very easy and very effective compound to use. I have seen it do amazing stuff as well, when you throw it at certain applications . If you told me that all I could do is 1-step on a certain car, it would most likely be 1 of 5 compounds I choose. I know this compound probably better than I know any other. Very easy and forgiving, designed to just work for beginners. Great shootout! You picked two of my favorites!
I have it in my arsenal JB, one of my go too's is TLC by Jace Price. One of the reasons I love this product so much is one, It's very versatile, two finishes out very nice, three it was made by a detailer for detailer's. I gave it a slogan, smooth as butta, cuts like a knife.
OGDetailer.
Nice!
I've used the meguiares ultimate compound many times and it does a fantastic job and polishes out nice. I don't like that it breaks down quick, it dusts and has a tendency to cake up on the pad. Long working time not only saves time, but it also saves on product. I've never used the 3d one product but I'm about to get some. I want something that cleans up easy and doesn't break down as quickly, and also polishes out well.
I've tried both. 3D One is the way to go.
I've got some 3d on the way, and a chemical guys torq polisher. Got a deal on it, $109 for a kit with their 2 step compound and polish that I might use on my mom's car cause I'm using the 3d on my truck since I don't have a ton of clear coat to play with and don't want to compound the clear away lol
@@DownHillgamer The 3D one, one step compound and polish works really well. If you don't need heavy correction, the one step works really well and you can get a car done fairly quickly. It's probably my favorite for rapid results and excellent results on a daily driver.
Great comparison! UC is underrated.
Definitely is
..absolutely nothing wrong with Porter Cable still use mine good as' any of my other's, cool demo video..✨☕
you got a new subscriber man keep up the good work💪🏽
thanks
For me there is a BIG difference. The 3D one cost more than 4 times the price of a Meguiars bottle.
So for comparable results, I'll go with the Meguiar's.
I believe 3D one is better for mobile detailers as you CAN use this product in direct sunlight, ultimate compound you have to do it in the shade and a on a cool panel, so I believe 3D one is marketed more for the mobile detailers working outside
3D one hands down
Incidentally, you are using my two favorites..
I'm working on a black Lamborghini that the paint was trashed.
M105 worked well in removing the scratches but didn't finish down well as it normally does for me but the defects were gone.
Tried m205 which worked okay but not good enough.
Reached for my 3D One using a yellow Meguiars yellow polishing pad.
Results were close to perfect.
I always liked ultimate compound. I like the way it breaks down because it is a good indication when to quit.
I'm new in the ''da'' world but with my rotary tool (dewalt & yellow whool pad) i love using Ardex Product (alpha grit & 1500 plus) the alpha is a bit ''agressive'' but the grit melt by the time you polish with and work easy on 1000/1500/3000 sanding mark....
But here in Canada only the professional retailer can have those product 🤷🏻♂️
Great video bro . I think ether product would be a great cheap way to over deliver and give your clients a real wow factor.
Thanks for the great chan! did you find the Megs D300 good for cutting moderate defects? i`m finding it really gentle not cutting much using microfibre cutting pad. Thanks for your time !
Been using a PC 7424 for the last 12 years. Still works like a champ!
I use Meguiars m105 most of the time for toughjobs but I still reach for Ultimate Compound for those that's not too bad but where a polish doesnt give me what I'm after.
Little dusting
Easy wipe off
Easy to find. OTC
Would be nice to know if this panel had a hard or soft clear coat on it for referrence.
Nice vid! Thank you!
👍🏻 for the average look correction. Not easy to notice, UC may need a second polish finish step for extra shine.
Not really. I use ultimate compound and ultimate polish myself. Polished one panel twice and compared it to the panel i did once and there was no difference. Might not always be the case but haven't noticed any difference on the cars i do
Thx for the demo. I'm purchasing a new truck and want to know if I can just use the mcguires for routine polishing, is there anything else I can use to get the show room finish
Thx
Mike
Thnks. Very helpful
Hey Jimbo, great podcasts!! Thanks for doing product duels. I know meguiars is coming out with a new compound and polish. M110 & M210. Suppose to be incredible with even less dusting. Also I see they have a new spray coming out. Would love to see a video on these products, especially the ceramic spray. Thanks, keep the videos coming.
Yes sir! I saw them all at SEMA and did a podcast about them, they said they will be sending them to me, so as soon as I get them I will be doing some videos on them.
Great comparison
Screw the haters. Love the channel!
👍🏻
Good channel just found it. It good idea what your doing. Are people really hating on you for these tests. Detailing snobs are worse than craft beer snobs
Thanks man - glad to have you along. Yup the hate is getting a bit better but it’s still there. Lots of “internet detailers”
I had this old plastic orbital polisher that you fitted microfibre and wool bonnets to.
Taking my time and knowing my machine and product, I did an as good job on my car panels as my mate that took his car to a pro detailer. Might have taken me a little longer cost me about 10% of his cost.
Using a Rupes/Flex barely makes no diff if you're doing it for yourself
in your opinion for a airbrusher guy on a budget is the ultimate compound a good go to product and what would you recommend as a final polish
Thanks for the videos.
Jimbo, nice test. To be more fair to the Ultimate compound, you said it gave just as good of results as the 3D one but since 3D one is a Hybrid Cutting Compound & Finishing Polish, and Ultimate is just a compound, wouldn't you need to finish off the Ultimate side with their Ultimate polish too for more apples to apples comparison? I bet with the Ultimate Polish added, it probably looks better than the 3D one!
In fact the UP is a glaze. But you're right.
I was very surprised using ult compound, along with ult polish, I don’t really buy any other compounds or polishes, I do send a little more on quality pads though 😎
its to entertain us!!! great video...!
Hey Jimbo!!!
Hope you are keeping well.
Whats the deal with forced rotation Flex machine 8 mm through, or 5.5 mm Makita ?
Will it finnish perfectly fine with one step compound and no holograms every time / black / dark colours paintwork / both german and japanese paints or at least germans ? In hands of intermediate to advanced skilled da polisher person ?
How much slower if at all forced rotation than 15 mm through da please ?
Will forced rotation be safe working under sun paired up with scholl s 20 one step ?
Just finished with Mequiars Ultra cut 105. Removed swirls very well. However micro scratches are still there. Comments,suggestions. Oh,I used an orbital with orange pad. Thanks
Ultimate compound 7$ and some change in my local Target
Cost me 20$ at Indonesia'e Ace Hardware.
Cost me 37.. im in Australia.. figures..
$10 at walmart and advance auto in kentucky usa
Porter Cable 7424xp and the pre XP model are my all time favorite tools.
Tried and true machines!
i just bought a DA 6inch and meguire 105 and 210. what kind of padding should i use for the compound and polishing step...i plan to sand with 1000grit then wet sand 1500grit. ill do a test panel to see if i need to sand to 2000 before the buffing. any suggestion on the cutting pad i need for the buff?
Great video!! Sorry I'm a little late to this party, but do you think this process would work on older Imron paint? Thanks for your comments
What would you recommend for apparent sun fading on a motorcycle, that i assume has color through ABS body work ?
Turth be told, eliminated 1000 grit scratches using 3D-ONE and a Lake Country yellow pad, all by hand. Granted, it took about 8 applications to get it done. Since then, I generally go as low as 3000 grit for the common swirls. It takes 1-2 applications to do the work.
I'm a professional detailer. At work, I use strictly Meguiar's compound and polish, paired with the MT300 DA and it does wonders. I also use Meguiar's at home alongside with Adam's Polishes products and Mother's. We call these "AutoZone" products because you can get them all there for pretty cheap. But as I could tell by your video, the quality of Meguiar's is just the same as a professional compound. I should say that some products do make a drastic difference when it's cheap vs expensive because that's how it works, but it's all about testing and finding what's good
So I just purchased a blk Chevy impala that has a lot of swirling Mark's, watermarks, and some imperfections. I took it to a shop who wants $700 to correct it. Do you think I can do the job myself or leave it to the professionals??
3d one is also the polish in one though. So you could leave to product on and chase it with the polishing pad.
Have you tried the Milwaukee polisher? I like it a lot personally
Great video! I’m hoping you can help me. I’m debating between applying Adam’s graphene kit to Ceramic Pro 9h + Top Coat (there is a $300 price difference).
those are two very different products...depending on whats most important to you the 9h is going to give you much more durability.
I don't own 3D one, but my understanding about the product is that it is an all in one. What this means is that, if you want to do a 2 step, first you team 3D one with a cutting pad and cut. Then, you change pads to a finishing pad, and do another pass with 3D one and finish. Never done it, but it is my understanding that this is the big deal with this product.
Also, it is supposed to be a great One Step. Just combine it with a medium pad and go at it.
Anyway, my 2 cents based on what I have heard of the product.
I personally use D300 and D302, with Meguiar's microfiber pads. They work well. May get 3D one for a One step at some point.
Finally, if you want something that can really cut, you need 3D ACA500... also known as the ultimate cutter.
Sure newer fancier machines are nice but, If you know what you are doing you don't need them. But I have got to say the Meguiars does a great job for how inexpensive it is.
What is that stuff you spray after the buff and what happens if you dont do that?
Do you prime your pads? I don't know wtf I am doing wrong but I have tried some Chemical guys v32/v34 with a hexo yellow pad which is supposed to be for deeeeeeep defects and oxidation. I washed it with dish soap to remove all the wax clayed it and then started and all I can do is get the paint shiny but the scratches are still there and that v32 is gritty like whoa.I tried v34/v36 with a hexo orange pad same results. Tried foam pads they don't seem to do crap I mean literally nothing. Tried VSS from Chemical guys same results nada. I tried turtle wax heavy duty compound doesn't do a thing but leave my pad brown. I tried polish scratch remover and nothing. I tried spraying the pad with detail spray and that just seems to fling compound everywhere and I'm literally barely putting any spray on. When I do a new pad it just seems to dry so I add more compound but then it starts to fling and I look at the pad and it's still not all covered in compound. Im doing the correct pass technique but my compound never seems so smooth and white like what you are showing. I am using a harbor freight DA could that be it? I'm using 6" pads. I did my black caddy last week and I spent hours for it to just look shiny with all the scratches still on it. It's like I did all that work for nothing. I'm doing small areas. I am running out of patience and not to mention a lot of compound. I seem to be doing everything correctly but something is off. I also seem to have residue I can't wipe off after. I mean it comes off but the residue just moves from one area to another. If I put to little it doesn't but then the paint seems the same so I put more and it just gets shiny but residue and scratches everywhere still. I have tried it on 3 of my cars 07 DTS, 04 Jeep wrangler and 2001 Corvette. I was able to get the swirls out of the corvette but spent literally 1 hour on a door. 1 hr!!!!! And still had some slight scratches. None are really that deep in the clear coat. I could go on but you get the point. Sorry for the book. I'm just frustrated. I knew something was wrong when I was using a V32 that feels like sand and a pretty firm hexo yellow pad meant for oxidation and deep cuts and all I get is shiny paint still with scratches in it.
I have both and l don't remember how much the Meguiar's cost but l recently bought a 16oz bottle of 3D One for $17 at my 3D retailer. Cheaper than Amazon.
Great comparison! Why did you sanded the hood with 3000 first?
Should you always wet sand the car before polishing?
The sanding was to ‘create a problem’ safely that demonstrated the compound’s performance. You could probably wet-sand clear with 2500-3000 a lot of times (if done uniformly) without real concern. Even with modern clearcoats that are thin.
If you really wanna go down the rabbit hole, research clearcoat leveling and ‘orange peel’ removal. Some use denim pads to do this. Not for the faint of heart, but an everyday affair at paint shops in the early stages of paint correction.
Just practice on a junk hood before tackling your daily driver. Trust me.
did you pre-load the file? seemed like very little product to do 4-5 passes on an area that size.
I have a new car i just got. I dont have a da nor do i know how to use one yet. Is their a polish you can recomend to remove wax the dealer may have put on ?
I plan to thoroughly wash. Decontaminate, then polish by hand to remove any wax, and swirls i may have added in the wash process. Then polish by habd to remove , and i have a bottle of prep to remove oils and residue from the polish, then after apply the Neguieres past wax graphene / ceramic coat.
Any oroduct you can recomend. I guess i dont needvto compound, and since the car us bew dont want to remove ckear ciat. Just clean and enhance shin. Leave paint vurgin to accept my wax.
Ultimate compound beats everything at the store
Seemed like there was a lot more product on the side of the meguiars when you worked it in but I presume that’s not the case , but it just spreads and breaks down different compared to 3D one but according to other reviews , the 3D one can finish down a lot better as the 3D one is a one step compound and polish but the meguiars is just a compound for the first step of 2-3 step process so comparing these two is not fair as they are both different products
I'm looking for a good wax for my car, I'm going to clay bar it and wax, what is a good wax to use, not wanting to "cut" at all, just wanting a great shine and protect my paint
It’s hard to beat the price and durability of meguiars fast finish
I use a gg6 da with a yellow foam pad and 3m perfect it compound. This is my “go-to”for most daily drivers. I’m interested in trying out 3D one.
I also keep the rotary on standby for those demanding situations.
I think the major advantage Meguiars Ultimate products is the access and price. I have used 3D hd cut plus and matching polish, end result was great. i don't think anyone can be a bigger hack than Ziebart.
I am just an all around auto/ semi truck enthusiast. To me, there is nothing better than doing a project while listening to Metallica or Megadeth.
3D/HD Cut +, and Polish + are excellent products.
I been using a port a cable for14 years , and I do a lot of the top of the line cars , like Porsche. iT'S not always the buffer , It's the one using it.
I always thought you was supposed to move slowly when u used a cutting compound.. Otherwise it doesn't worked very well?
Í love ultime compound
About to do my first polish, just wondering which will be better, 3d one or meguiars ultimate compound + ultimate polish? If i choose 3d one, can i achieve same results as traditional two steps by using both cutting and finishing pads?
Yes. That’s why I love 3D one
@@autodetailingpodcast so I should go for the 3d one over meguiars. Thank you for the answer!!
I would go 3D over meguiars
I actually hand-polished my ‘17, black Camry with Ultimate Compound. It took a long time, but it came out looking really good. Total cost for correction: $14!
Seems like the ultimate compound breaks down into a finer polish. Is this prediction accurate and could be used as a one step like 3d one?
You can use it as a one step on some paints, you need to adjust pad and technique, less downward pressure if you’re polishing.
Meguiar's I am impressed.
I am going put a coating on my almost new car that has really no scratches. Should I just polish the paint instead of compound?
yup
I own a body shop and am looking for something better than the 3m options they don't seem to get the scratches out I usually 2000 then go over with 3 and always have to rebuff
There are a lot of better options than the 3M body shop stuff.
Will this work on wet sanding marks?
Do I still need to use ultimate polish if ultimate compound can make the panel glossy after sanding?
nope...if you are happy with the results of the compound no need to polish.
You can see in the reflection of the bigger scan grip light that there was a huge difference when you moved it from the meguires side to the 3D. Meguires had a nice finish but a bit hazy. The reflection of the scan grip on the 3D side was very clear and had a lot of depth, no haze.
thank goodness for that i just got some ultimate..
What's your beef with m105? I find it it's pretty versatile and more cost-effective than most other products. Is it the dusting?
Joseph Connolly tries out to fast and dust to much. It’s also almost double the price of the much better m100
@@autodetailingpodcast
Hopefully m110 will be better
Agreed!
Joseph Connolly I have a whole bottle that I haven't used yet. I was thinking of mixing some with my m205 just for less dusting and used as a one step but not to sure. How do you like using 105? My other plan was just having distilled water in a spray bottle to help the dusting.
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I tried to blend the two (homebrew M155) it gave me a longer working time and less dusting but came out streaky.
Does anybody know is the ultimate compound remove 1500grit sanding? As the hybrid one 3d
I have a black decker polisher but I can’t use those fancy pads only bonets
I may have missed it, but could you tell me what speed setting you're using?
usually 4-5
Plz let me know whether the Ultimate Compound is temporary or its a permanent solution for light swirls and paint defects
it is a permanent fix as long as you keep up the right kind of washing @Indrajit Karmakar
Out of the Meguires Ultimate compound vs Angel wax equivalent what would people say is better?......anyone care to share there thoughts 🤔?
ive seen the meguiars ultimate do things that the angel wax couldnt.
Can you use the 3D to polish as well using a polish pad?
And 3D 1 on say a used 3 year old paint. Littler tougher than swirls. Used chemical guys VSS and did t get it done. Was super thick. I'm usednto the Ole 3m white top.
yes you can.
Okay thanks.
Try presta ultra compound
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