Is Meguiars Ultimate Compound REALLY THE ULTIMATE? 1500 Grit Sandpaper Test
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- Can Meguiars Ultimate Compound Remove 1500 Grit Sanding Marks?
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Great thought making this video this is a true test!!!
Never sanded anything....had My first outing with Ultimate Compound tonight. It rocks!!!
I've had ultimate compound in the arsenal for a while. Sometimes it works better than HD speed and sometimes speed works. It also depends on customers expectations and what they pay for. I've had ultimate compound work when others wouldn't and sometimes it doesn't work. That's when trying different compounds and pads in a troubleshooting scenario is beneficial. But for a novice this is more realistic. They would more than likely not have a good polisher, not be experienced enough to use a rotery, and probably only be using a foam cutting pad. Good job. Keep bringing good content.
Thanks for the video, very informative !
Thanks
Just bought and used. This stuff is awesome
nice comparison jimbo. try buff and shine uro pads work great.
Nicely done
Hey Jimbo. Do you know if that's hard or soft clear coat your working with in this video ?
I hear really good things about the Porter Cable XP7424
You should start a new series for compounds and name it "How low can you go!" 😉🤔
I just washed with a pH 10 soap, wiped it down w/ paint prep, clayed it, now I'm about to use ultimate compound with a chem guys orange pad on my DA. Should I use the ultimate polish after that step with a black pad? I guess in other words can I use these two products to do a two-step? Or is it not necessary
Good video, would have been good to follow up with ultimate polish to see the results of the full system rather than the D166
The ultimate polish is a GLAZE and will mask any swirls left and not remove them.
IMO the best test result is right after the compound and after an IPA wioe down.
@@TheCeki1982 actually the ultimate polish has a very light abrasive unlike its professional counterpart m210. You can do an ipa wipe down after you apply it
@@thenegus5469 what is an IPA wipe down??
@@PoppysGuitar isopropyl alcohol
When you clean it with ipa solution after does not look like it has fillers
Would you normally use a more aggressive pad, like a micro fiber, on scratches like that? I would think so. Question answered upon watching more.
if you want to remove scratches with four steps: clean, sanding, polishing, waxing. What sanding and polishing product you should use to get best result fastest?
What is Wash maring...and the difference between that and swirl marks from washing...and another thought..why would u ever need to use a wash mitt..espscially on your hood? And especialy if u wash atleast 1 time evey 2weeks with waxing??
What speed number did you used? Please lmk thanks!!
So what product you recommend for both sides for saving time and perfext cutting ?
You should really try out CarBrites Select series compound and polishes. It’s super slept on in the detailing work, doesn’t dust at all, water based and both can remove 1500 grit sanding marks. The polish and compound both are diminishing abrasive types and even the compound can finish out to a near coatable surface with the right foam pad.
I use them all the time 1 2 and 3 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Would this remove water spots?
Sir preciate this video I am stoked of what you just did there you sold me on this McGuire car wax I appreciate this video I hope I get a response back from you this was awesome
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your response sir I'm going to continue watching your videos hoping that you do a video on the Meguiars on the dashboard of the newer cars I have a 2015 Ford Escape and I need to keep dashboard shining like the brand new but I appreciate the video thank you very much for your response back thank you
This is not a wax. It's a compound.
Apex detail does something similar. From 2000 to 800 grit testing. He's tested many products
There speed pro compound is a great product followed by the diamond cut 2.0
Where's the 3D one to keep comparing it to ultimate compound?
I think it was a very worthy experiment. Not sure about your analysis, but... haha. No, it seems to me that what you showed, was that: Maroon Buff n Shine pad + Maguiars UC = approx 1700 grit. Doesn't sound right, but it cleaned up the 1500 nicely and made the 2000 worse. Maybe the shine difference between sanding and polishing at the same grit is the polish leaves it wetter looking. Idk, just thinkin
One thing I noticed you did differently to most is you didn't spread the compound on a slow speed before cranking it up. Being a diminishing compound, this could explain why the centre of the panel came up better than the front and back.
Wrong. they are smat. Meguiars products does not diminish
Yo! The mark up on this is crazy and it’s almost sold out! The mark up is crazy high rn because of the crazy demand. eBay is selling it for 32 bucks and Amazon is for 25-30 bucks. Thank god I bought mines when it was just 10 dollars
Add a squirt of detail spray to help dusting
have u used Wurth products?
2:38 That is the same sound I hear at the dentists office when they are drilling a cavity.
Can you take a depth gauge to the center section versus the sides of that panel. As much as you have worked it over in past videos, I am curious if it has lost a significant amount of microns?
Yes I would. If I had a paint depth gage
Enjoying the further testing of cheap product vids, I think it's interesting that a cheap consumer compound can get good results. I know it was no where near perfect but not bad for the price.
My 2016 truck was repainted three years ago and the paint is in great shape with no swirls but just a couple of moderate scratches and no dents (knock wood). If I use compound to buff out those scratches, do I need to compound the entire vehicle before polishing and waxing? My challenge is the small time windows provided by Colorado's hot summer weather (with unforecasted light rain bursts in the afternoon), and the fact that my truck doesn't fit in my garage. Would greatly appreciate your advice!
You can definitely just do some spot correction without issues.
@@autodetailingpodcast - thank you!
Can I do this when my clear cote is faded due sun? Dealarship repainted my hood on mercedes and few years later isn't faded mat black , any dirt I try to whipped off leaving marks . Now a cat scratched my whole hood and roof .. any suggestion how to fix besides repainting? Thank you!
Depending on the scratches, I'd probably wet-sand them down with 3000 grit, then follow up with 5000 grit.
Then compound, and then polish.
You'll want to sand approximately an inch to each side, with each sanding step, to feather out your work.
If scratches are through the clear coat, it's a whole different ballgame.
Just got my m110 and m210 in the mail :-)
Can't wait to see you do a video on them :-)
How did you get them?
Ordered them...had pre-order that shipped Monday. Now ship date will be later I'm sure. Ordered day everyone did the sema videos. The dealers should all have it for order now. Well available on backorder but should all have it to buy and ship when they get more.
They shipped to the dealers last week or weekend before last
So you received it or you just put your order in?
Can't find your email to send you info :-/ usually in the about section
@@autodetailingpodcast received it yesterday. I pre-ordered and my order was in the first wave after receiving the order they got from meguiars I guess
I made this mistake today, tried to wet sand a scratch on my new truck with 1500 grit, used the meguires compound to try to buff it out and it’s not coming all the way out.
What would you recommend that I do to fix where I sanded?
I did same thing on my blazer. Tried removing old bird 💩 marks on my hood. But I used 2500 sandpaper. …did you get out your scratches?
Can I use this on new paint? I had some runs on my clear and I want to sand and buff
yes
If I have yet to go over a spot more than two times with MUC. Whatever it does not get, is not coming out!!!!
The problem was your pads you used weren't heavy grit pads, they are more polishing pads.
This brings back memories of Meguiar's performing corrections with UC, yellow foam polishing pads, and the G110v2.
There are a lot of internet detailers getting triggered by a readily available compound performing up to, and sometimes over the fashionable crap they paid too much money for.
Nice job, Jimbo. I've had that stuff remove 1000 grit using a green hex logic on a pc.
In my situation, it was utilizing the non diminishing abrasives like a sanding disc. The green pad though softer, is more aggressive than the orange. I find the stiffness of the uro tech pads works against cutting ability because they give up too much surface area, and resist conforming to surface irregularities. One of the reasons the Meguiar's Microfiber cutting disc is so successful is from it's ability to conform to surface irregularities, where the stiffer pads make you fight the process.
Ultimate Polish has been killing it lately for me as a one step with those green pads, and finishing with the blue. Old school stuff works. Just because it isn't fashionable doesn't mean anything. Just because something is fashionable doesn't mean it's better.
The 80/20 rule.
Hello, sorry what is 80/20 rule? Can you explain it, please?
@@alverropratamawidodo4569 80% of the outcome comes from 20% of the cause.
@@danlc95 get it, thank you 🙏
Orage cutting pad or a micro fiber
Jimbo lets have some fun!
I’m ready!
Have you had any experience with Croftgate products?
I haven’t
Whats the best way to remove residue from compound?
Polish
Hopefully it won't make dust again if you prime the pad with the same compound first, then add dots...of compound to the pad, etc.
If you use a Surbuff or microfiber cutting pad, you can cut 1500 grit with Ultimate Compound on a DA.
yes...and the better the DA the faster the job will go...but no da is faster than a good rotary with a wool pad in removing scratches imo....
*So* much of it depends on the paint hardness. All these testing videos should include *both* hard and soft panels for each area of testing.
can UC penetrate 3000 grit sand paper? nice video btw learned alot on your videos
I believe so
@@autodetailingpodcast i hope so men because i already bought one hahaha
I’d say 1500 on a DA with a interface pad it’ll probably easier to remove. #gofoampads👌
Breaking? Your using a 4-6 cut product on 1500 grit. Breaking would be using m105 (it takes out 1500 btw) break it on what an average consumer would do.
hit it with panel wipe and watch the scratches come back. ask me how I know.
Why??
How you know?
@@greezer9716 because it has fillers in it.
👍
Is that P1500 or just 1500, also is it P2000 or just 2000? That makes a huge difference trust me I learned the hard way.
What is the difference?
@@weliftnation2418 P1500 is the equivalent of 750 and 1500 is the equivalent of P3000 so its a pretty big difference especially if you use 1000grit then progress to P1500 you could be putting 750grit scratches back into your finish. Standard paper is like half of what a P-grade sandpaper is roughly speaking on anything above like 400 or 600grit I believe is where it changes.
@@Fazman81 wow thank you for the knowledge
What is the best orbital machine?
kinda depends on how often you will use it and what your budget is
Red or orange sponge for compound ? How much rpms?? My car has swirls and small scratches
Do Not use red or yellow foam pad, Use a Cutting pad, cutting pads have like little diamond shapes with grove, he is using the wrong pads, Ask me how I know
@@redbaron2448 meguiars suggests the red for cutting and yellow for polishing :/
@@g1an_nis Not Professional. Look on CZcams videos best cutting pads.
best to have 1500,2000 marks compounded with a a few passes with a good rotary and wool pad...then use DA and good meg polish a a couple of times than wax... if you want less compounding start with 3000 sand marks... not rocket science just use all your steps on a test spot first so you do not remove anymore clear coat than is necessary... it protects car... once you get your car as good as you want keep it under cover as much as possible to protect from the sun damage...black especially...
Micro fiber would've knocked it out! A product doesnt have to be expensive to be good. You can get any job done with a cheap da and cheap product it's just on your skill. Im not knocking you cause you do good videos but I'm just giving my opinion. Been doing this for years and still use my trusty rotary over my da's. I only use da's on new vehicles.
Would you rather use this or m105?
combat veteran07 this
@@autodetailingpodcast thanks, there so many products, it gets expensive and confusing
I'm interested in the 3D One because it could be like Sonax Perfect Finish with more cut. So even better for a soft Subaru paint or something similar.
You will get a far better distribution of your compound if you apply it to your da and then press it on the surface, lift of, press on, lift of (6 to 9 times) over the whole surface you want to polish. Instead of appling a big circle in the middle and wiping it all over the place. You have to much compound in the middle and not enough on the sides. You will have much better results if you apply it evenly on different spots.
Daniel S. Good tip.
Amateur move.
For me the Meg UC, by hand,, fits perfectly into my routine. Warm water wash, dry, Meg UC, sealant and two coats of carnauba. Hasn't missed yet.
The lighting is terrible. Instead of just an overhead light, try a light from the sides of the panel. I don't think you're see what we're seeing.
when did you change the channel name?
It’s been Auto Detailing Podcast for a while, Jimbo’s detailing for a bit and back to Auto Detailing Podcast
Ultimate compound fixes car paint fade ?
It can for sure
@@autodetailingpodcast thanks, talking to paint car man, said to me it must be painted.... lol sucking my money
@@playstation2bigs
it's temporary , the fade will come back eventually.
You would also finish with 3000 then compound / polish so this product is perfectly fine
so after the 1500 , go straight to the 3000.. I tried to comp/polish after 1500 grit and there is a good amount of scratches left.
@@reza_dc2 did u go to 3000?
I really don’t by the hole consumer versus professional grade . I can go to most parts store and purchase m 105 which is supposed to be a professional product. But I’m not a pro but i can still buy it and have the same results as you would have. And personally I think that Ultimate compound is better than 105. It has a longer working time and doesn’t dust as much not even close and wipes off easier
Both the ULTIMATE and 105 cover-up the real situation.
Soak the area with Megs APC 1:3 for 3mins, agitate with mitt, rinse, blow dry…and you will immediately see that BOTH have great “cover-up” abilities.
But thats unavoidable because most Americans are obsessed with low-dusting and long workability. Hence, more oils need to be incorporated to “hold” the abrasives together while providing prolonged lubrication for longer work times.
And those oils are unintentionally covering up the marring.
meguiars diamond cut vs meguiars ultimate compound
I thought the passes were supposed to go both ways up and down and side to side. You only went side to side.
It doesn’t matter
"Hi Jimbo " I Have A Question Which DA Polisher Do You Recommend For A Beginner Who Wants To Do A Paint Correction On Oxidized Paint?..
Raymond perez porter cable
@@garretrocha8 Thank You!!
why you sanded with bay hand you have to sand machine
I am sure that using a microfiber cutting pad with Ultimate Compound would make a huge difference. In my experience, the difference in cut from foam to microfiber is like night and day. The porter cable is a very weak polisher, so if you are gonna use a consumer grade compound with it, it will need all the help it can get. In terms of cut, UC is more like a one step polish than a true cutting compound. I don't know if it can remove 1500 scratches with a porter cable but I am sure you would get a much better result with microfiber. Especially good ones like the ones from Meguiars.
Calendyr the PC is definitely one of the weaker 8mm throw machines, even the harbor freight DA has more torque, but the griots is the best 8mm throw DA in my opinion. I agree on the pads, I don’t even bother with foam cutting pads, I just go microfiber at that point, I still use foam polishing and foam finishing pads though.
@@STILLNIGHTPEARL GG has a good 8mm machine, and the warranty on it can't be beat. In terms of use, I would argue that the Torx is a better short throw machine, feels like a Rupes when you use it in terms of smoothness of operation and hand grip.
And few more passes would help a lot
And a better polisher,use my with a brush for upholstery now
Has anyone tried Turtle Wax Ice Speed Compound? How does it compare to Meguiar's Ultimate Compound?
I haven’t tried it
do you all go to junk yards and buy door panels and hoods for these demonstrations?
Yes
I honestly think the dual action was invented just to make a new source of revenue for the detailing world, the things garbage and takes forever, time is money.
95% of vehicles I color sand or polish can be done with a 1 step using rupes medium pad and 3d-one
u wudnt do just one pass tho...
excactly
You are not doing a true comparison....you are going over what you have already done. So you don't know if you would have went a longer time with the Mequiars would have given better results. You need 3 or 4 sections to compare. This is now right what you are doing.
I know it doesn't do 1500 or 2000grit I tried this last week went back to 3m
Least your vid isn't a lie lol
You can definitely level 1500-2000 grit sanding marks with ultimate compound, it’s not my first choice, but it can be done. It levels 1500-2000 grit when paired with a twisted wool cutting pad and a rotary polisher or using a 15mm or 21 mm throw machine paired with a wool or microfiber cutting pad, also with a forced rotation machine. It’s not going to do much when paired with an 8mm throw DA like in this video. You’ll have a hard time leveling 1500 grit using an 8mm throw DA with any compound, that machine isn’t designed for leveling 1500 grit sanding marks, you’re wasting time. Check out this video, proof that ultimate compound can level 1500-2000 grit sanding marks. czcams.com/video/7tAX9rtoNpE/video.htmlsi=4DtglHSHj-o60mSD
8 use it with a ritary and was amazing
That seems like a lot to ask of a very mild compound don't cha think, at least to me it seems like it is
It’s a great “mild” compound in my book. I love it
It’s just dust I thought we were men 🤔
Haha i bade in thay stuff when i'm done with my cars😄 no big deal it's just dust.
Mosquitos
Meguiars M105 works way better
Unscipable adds are unscipable
LMFAO
It will do even worse with 3000 grid
Bmw door?
Sand paper on paint? Not good. Most modern paint/clear coat finishes, you hopefully will never touch paint. Clear coat scratches only. Try compound, polish, wax. Sand paper will always have that ugly haze which will show up again as wax/sealeant wears off. Unless extreme scratches/swirling skip sand paper. My experience.
I usually don’t have an issue with sanding if I make sure to remove all the sanding scratches while buffing
Hahaha... Stupid comparison 😄. If you did ultimate compound second time on the same panel, you would have gotten the same results as with that other one. You don't compare products by polishing over already polished section. Rediculous
God this guy is confused,... he talks a lot and doesn't really say anything. Good example of trying to teach something that is not clear to you to begin with.
1st off Wrong pads, those Are Not Cutting pads, Cutting pads have little diamond shapes People, look it up, Would Not let this guy touch my car, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you have a detail shop or channel to link and show how it's done?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cougtime Look up Chemical guys cutting pads on Amazon, or CZcams Chemical Guys
It is the firmness of the pad, not designs
I seriously wonder how you’ve got to where you are. Most of your videos are flawed. You’re using a a first generation porter cable and a foam pad to remove sanding marks? Are you kidding me? At least use a MF cutting pad with the poor little porter cable. This test is irrelevant.
He is using the Porter Cable to show if a cheap machine can generate good results, then when you have a quality machine you can get even better results. He understands the Porter Cable scenario, but its been explained in numerous videos why he uses it in his demonstrations.
QwikSS fr lmao. He’s explained this exact scenario a number of times. Watch more of his videos and pay attention
RenzoSpeed3 His words, “can we push this compound to the limit”. He sure as hell didn’t do that with a PC and a MEDIUM cut FOAM pad. This video is not accurate. Period.
@@qwikss7522 He is trying to make it an all around non ideal situation. Once again, you do not understand the point behind the methods, but to each their own.
I’m not sure how I got here either. But here I am.
Good video, would have been good to follow up with ultimate polish to see the results of the full system rather than the D166
agreed. I hadnt planned on adding a polish until I started the video and d166 was all I had on hand.
Auto Detailing Podcast keep up the good work. Enjoy the videos. Cheap vs expensive is a great concept, I’m from the uk though so your cheap is sometimes my expensive!