Turtle Wax 1 & Done versus Meguiar's Ultimate Compound
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
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Turtle Wax have release the new Hybrid Solutions Pro range, including the all new 1 & Done compound.
The idea is that you only need the one compound and control the levels of cut and finish by changing the pad type.
Is this idea feasible? Does it work? And how does it compare to the age-old favourite Meguiar's Ultimate Compound?
Turtle Wax 1&Done (not yet available in the UK - link to follow)
Meguiars Ultimate Compound
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In future videos we will looks at Turtle Wax To The Max Wax (liquid), Flex Wax (spray), and the Ceramic and Graphene wax (paste). - Auta a dopravní prostředky
In the video I only had US$ prices so did basic conversion. I now see that this is well off as TW have put UK£ prices at £30!
My opinion on the prices is that it is too expensive, for the market, and the product. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but it just isnt worth £30.
Over here in Australia TW just come out its $80 it's crazy. I'll stick to the Meg's going for $30. TW way over priced.
Not worth that. Hate how companies that already have a global reach dont get their conversions right
I agree. What would you suggest as the next step or three up from meguiars ultimate compound? Something still forgiving but a bit more cutting? Only ever used meguiars compound
My next purchase is the Koch F06. The other compounds form them that I have are amazing!
But something as a one step, try Scholl S20 black. 👍
@@DetailingandtheBeast awesome thank you buddy. Just started a small detailing business and always looking for new user friendly products
For the average car today for showroom shine and most cost effective . Clay bar if needed Mothers brand . Then Meguiar's Ultimate Compound with a Lake Country Orange light cut pad . Followed by Meguiar's Polishing formula with a Lake Country Black polishing pad . When done , apply Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic Coating , let cure for 24 hours , then repeat . Fantastic results car looks great for about 6 months . For in between wash's spray on Turtle Wax Hybrid Detailer. For Compound and polish process once a year .
Hard to argue with that formula. All good stuff.
I was with you till the repeat after 24hrs, that's a bit much. But I like your method. 👍
You forgot Gyeon Cancoat. We're two years later at the moment so, product are getting better.
He meant repeat the ceramic spray, which directions say to apply second coat after 24 hours, not repeat the whole thing. This formula really works only behind using an actual ceramic seal. But for the every day guy that likes a clean shiny car it’s perfect.
Another Great comparison Dave, I’ve been interested to see what one and done can do. But looking at your results there no major difference so I’d just get what ever was cheapest when I next need some 👍🏼
My expectations of a one step paint correction does not exceed 70%. And those are the best of conditions. I will never expect three step results from Megs compound or the other. I will take my time, do it right, and use something great like Koch products and at least two steps. They are fantastic. Great video man!
Great review video! One thing I noticed is that the turtle wax's ad says it can be used with any aggressiveness of pad, but Meg's compound, I think, is meant to be used with a cutting pad rather than a finishing pad. I would switch to Ultimate Polish when using a finishing pad for the last step. Anyway I want to give 1 & Done a try!
Nice review. I’m glad you said your opinions on why you would choose one over the other at the end.
Very good review Dave, they always are! I actually use the Koch Chemie range myself for most polishing jobs but the TW and Meguiars products are ideal for people getting into machine polishing for the first time so great to see how they perform. Excellent job 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I really appreciate your video. Thank you for posting. My understanding is that Turtle Wax 1 and Done is designed as a single step paint correction product. Meguiars Compound on the other hand, is designed as part of a three step process and teamed up with their Ultimate Polish and Ultimate Wax. The hazing you noticed with the Meguiars Compound is removed later with application of the Ultimate Polish and the surface is finally finished with their Ultimate Wax. I was impressed to see how well Meguiars Compound performed against the Turtle Wax which contains ingredients to deliver that finished appearance that is advertised and we all enjoy. I walk away from your video believing that Turtle Wax One and Done is likely a time saver (and perhaps an overall cost saver) when compared to Meguiars and their three products needed for paint correction. We all know that time is money regardless if you are a pro detailer or DIY guy like me. Thanks again.
The turtle wax is also part of a 3 step process.
The turtle wax process is
1. One and done compound
2. Turtle wax graphene wax paste or Wax to the Max liquid wax
3. Finish off with Turtle wax graphene Flex spray Wax.
Yep, I agree with Rick. The tw is a one and done step ,doesn't need more steps thus making it a time saver and time is money
The TW one can be a 3 step with a cutting pad, polish pad, and their paste wax, liquid max wax, or graphene flex wax
Turtle Wax supplied the 1 and Done with all the pads you see in this video. Their tech session shows one compound multiple pads, to achieve multiple levels of cut. It is designed to be the same product but on multiple pads.
turtle wax 1 and done is also a 2 step process, it's a matter of what pad you use. If you need a more deeper cutting, then you use the cutting pad, then you also need to polish again using a polishing pad for the final polishing. Then you can finish with wax. The one and done is just that you ONLY need 1 bottle, instead of requiring Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish. So ultimately, it's cheaper for you since you're only buying 1 bottle of One and Done
Just caught up on the last 4. Fantastic as always. Good honest information.
The last four 😜 Are you mad? That's like 40 minutes of me, I wouldnt wish that on anyone! 😂
Cheers pal 🍻
Just subscribed to the channel Dave loving your work and loving the fairness and honesty of your comparisons 👍🏻
Thank you Steve! Welcome along. Hope you enjoy the back catalogue. That's my whole aim here, I aim to be fair and honest in everything I do. Sometimes some brands dont like that, but.... tough! 👍
Another great honest review ,I've unsubbed a few UK detailers now as you can see they contradict them selfs and you can see they get off with getting stuff from the company's for free and say yes it's the best stuff out there 🤘
I dont receive anywhere near as much as others do, and I'm pretty sure why that is. But I dont actually care! 😏🤣
thanks for the video, just subscribed.
Very good video and the first one I‘ve seen which doesn’t just rave about the Turtle Wax but just shows and tells how it is - which once again raises some question marks about other reviews out there and how „real“ or „honest“ they are.
What would have been extremely interesting would have been if you would have cut those two test sections in half with a tape, hit it with an IPA or similar to test whether those two products actually removed paint defects or also contain fillers of some sort.
And if you have a test spot left on that test panel it would be incredibly interesting to see how Sonax Cut&Finish does in comparison because I personally think that it will do better in the cut AND the finish department.
I always wipe with panel wipe after my cutting tests. You should be able to see the bottles hanging around in the vids. 👍
My reviews are ALWAYS as I find them! You should know that by know. 😏👍
I started using the random orbitals back in 2013.
I was using a rotary since 1998.
Because I started with Meguiar's in the 90's, I picked their Ultimate line, with the compound and polish.
The tool was a Porter Cable 7424xp, and the pads were green, blue, and red Hex Logic from Chemical Guys.
So, as I type this I got out all the old friends...
Yes, I've owned the Flex 3401, I have several Rupes Polishers. I have a TON of modern pads from Rupes, Buff and Shine, and Lake Country.. I've been through several polish lines - Menzerna, Sonax, Jescar, Optimum, Koch, CarPro, Poorboys, Rupes, and 3D.
Im sitting here considering going back to my original orbital set up. It was so effective and very easy to use.
The star of the show today?
Meguiar's Ultimate Polish.
That stuff has been a loyal friend since 2013. If I use it with the green Hex Logic it makes an excellent one step polish. It has always finished down beautifully on these blue Hex pads, or yelow Rupes pads, it smells fantastic, and it's very in expensive. It can even cut pretty good with a wool or microfiber pad. I think I'm going to order a couple cases as a Christmas gift to myself! 😂
Great video, and thank you for taking the time to do it.
PS - If Ultimate Polish is difficult to wipe off, shake it up very, VERY thoroughly. It might take a minute, but it will eventually sort itself out. Well worth the effort.
Greetings from Rochester NY. Excellent video. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on the 1 and Done to give it a try. 👍🏻
👋 Hi Bob.
I hardly ever comment but you did such a good job! I just wished I would have watched your video before I bought the turtle wax! I used it on a new vehicle because it’s marked as a compound that will finish perfect if you use a finishing pad! Well it doesn’t! It leaves hologram! I then bought kochchemie 302 so I’m hoping that finishes down better on a new car!!
Thanks for the comparison. The only thing I'm not sure of is because the one and done finished down better the scratch just may look worse compared to surrounding paint.
Good video and here I do this by hand lol. Not as fresh as a machine but still looks good and more therapeutic if you have the time.
is it possible to add a ceramic coating after the TW one and done?
Apologies I watched to the end & saw you're recommendation thanx Mike 🇦🇺
Excellent test. Try 3D One compared to these 2 products. It finishes down quite nicely, very low hazing, no holograms. Its an amazing product. Of course, a finish polish will certainly enhance the finish.
Your the only guy i know that can produce 2 identical scratches.
I've used the ultimate compound alot but always follow up with micro polishing glaze before finishing with Turtlewax Hybrid Ceramic (spray wax)
No argument on that combo. Have just received the 1&done - anxious to try it. TW is gettin' it done for sure but still hard to beat the Meguiar's long standing results! Hybrid Ceramic is solid 4 sure!
What if I combines both on a same pad??
Great video! Thanks !
Earned the subscribe!
I'm not overly big on the 1 and done. Nothing beats the meguiars uc. Always wins for me
Guys iam a newbe and used 2 bottles Maguires so far wanted to try something different so tried the tw
I really liked it ,longer working time and really easy to remove , iam sure I got better results
Very nice analysis. Thank you.
I've been trying to get a hold of TW's new compound for a while now (it's sold out in the US on their website and other sites are price hiking...) but so glad this came up on my youtube feed. I've been using Ultimate Compound for touchups and wetsanding individual scratches by hand, but I'm a TW guy so I figured try this one since it claims it can finish too. Think I'm better off buying a good finishing polish. The 1 and done is over double the price of UC with very similar results, plus I already have UC. As much as I love the hybrid solutions scent, can't justify it.
Anyway thanks for the vid, really appreciate your honesty. Liked and subscribed. What finishing polish do you recommend?
I love Koch Chemie m3.02 it is FANTASTIC, and produces clarity that I havent seen from elsewhere.
@@DetailingandtheBeast thanks, saw someone else suggest that one. Appreciate it!
Meguairs is a two step compound and polish… you should’ve used both against the all in one turtle wax…
At least in the US, in May 2023, the turtle wax 1 and done with those 4 pads is available for $33.60 (20% off code) with free shipping. I think that kills almost any other offering out there at the moment. It's hard to even go for Koch chemie, 3d one, etc with that pricing and pads.
Both performed great, the ultimate compound can be had for me about half the cost of turtle wax. That’s what I’ll be sticking with for now.
Hi from Aust. This was excellent. I think for my money I'll go with Meguiar's ultimate. You said you'd still want to hit both with a finishing pad & a finishing compound. What would you recommend. Thanx Mike 🇦🇺
Was the wax or compound applied for each pad or just the first pad? Could someone tell me?
Good video, I like the Meguiar’s Ultimate Compound and Polish myself. Pitty the Ultimate Wax’s have absolutely no detergent resistance at all.
Never tried the ultimate wax. And on this I'm guessing never will. Thanks for the heads up.
@@DetailingandtheBeast Goes on and off great, looks the bees knees and beads water very well. Meguiar’s APC diluted at 10:1 will strip it completely in just 2 hits.
Good video!
Thank you
I think the problem with these two products are they're pretty much modern versions of T-Cut that motor factors sell to people who want to remove light scratches or bring a bit of life back to the paint. On my last car I used some Megs Ultimate Compound with my Das6 Pro but it didn't really do much where as the Menzerna compound (I think it was their 3500) was brilliant and around the same price as the Megs.
Yeah for me these types are very much "consumer grade", and professionals and even us enthusiasts want pro grade products. We dont mind spending longer to get better results, even if that means using three or four products in replacement of the one.
@@DetailingandtheBeast Yes, when I did my last car with the Menzerna compound I then had to do the whole car again with their finishing polish so a bit time consuming. With my current car I used the Megs as I couldn't be bothered spending all day compounding & polishing. It looked OK afterwards but nothing special. It obviously gives good results though as seen in this video. 😎
Nice. Try megs with finishing/ mid pad. I was ok with the finnish even on soft paints.
They both had a full set of pads, from microfibre, to a finishing pad (the black one). All pads had a 2 pass working time each, and fresh product at each pad.
I didnt think it was a "bad" finish, but being very picky, it wasnt good enough for me. I've got Koch F06 to try too, and S20 black is actually a decent one step too.
Thanks for the video, I have a query, I have a 5 year old car, never done any paint protection or detailing, so can I use meguiar's ultimate compound to remove swirls and scratches and then turtlewax ceramic spray as a sealant?
100% yes!
Did you use the To The Max Wax on the Turtle Wax square and the Meguiar’s Ultimate Polish on the Meguiar’s square? Because if I’m not mistaken, compounds do tend to leave hazing till they are finished up with a polish. From what I understand about both products is that they are the first step in their respective processes. Or was it just a comparison between the effectiveness of a compound?
The Turtle wax one and done compound claims to be "all you need", compound and finishing polish in one bottle. That's the point, it's not that good at what it claims and you do still need another finishing product
What do you think of menzerna cut force?
Thanks
Great video
Thanks!
Scholl S17 with the purple spider pad is far better. I own a scratch repair business and I’ve been using that for the last 4 years, top it up with the Turtlewax Flex Graphene or the Seal n shine.
Good comparison Dave,looking at the results I agree the One and Done just takes it
Another great video Dave. It's like listening to your mate giving you some really good advice. Not like listening to some County Fair snake oil salesman confusing the hell out of you 👍
👍 I try an be as casual as possible whilst getting across the notes I have made. Even the notes are only jotted down quickly on the chalk board. 🤣
@@DetailingandtheBeast it certainly works for me. Good luck with the figures 👍😊👍
Turtle wax very underrated. , I do miss the turtle.ice. That has now been discontinued.
Turtle is at $29 to $33 great video ..thanks
How are you supposed to tell how each pad does if you just do them all one after another without seeing how each one does by itself?
I checked them between passes, obviously I panel wiped after each set to see what was there. But that's ultimately not the point here, I was checking out the ability to offer differing levels of cut by keeping the same product and only varying the pad. That's why initially multiple different defects were added, to see what did, and didnt get removed. The finish at the end should have been highly refined regardless (given I used the whole array of pads), which for my liking it wasnt (on either section!)
I prefer to use a pad and compound combo, rather than just using various pads on the same compound.
Did you get the camera wrong Dave? It looks a little cropped. Good test but it will probably be a long time before that turtle one arrives with us.
Haha yeah I set it up with the panel in shot and though "yeah I'll fit in there" 🤣🤣🙈
TW stuff is in the UK in a few weeks I reckon, no firm date.
What am I missing? How are these "entry level" when it does the job? Beyond a certain amount of paint correction, it's not the polish that matters. But please tell me, what is the high end "pro" level paint polish that we should be using.
So, if you use one of these "one cut" compounds like the 1&Done, then they claim you dont need any more than one product. This is fast and relatively decent.
If you use a set of compounds and complete more sets, so like a 3 different levels of compound, you will get a much better level of correction, with more defect removal, with a more better finish in terms of clarity and colour depth. But ultimately this will take much longer.
The compounds I choose to use at the minute are Koch Chemie.
What rotation speeds for each pad type?
On my DAS 6 pro, I use speed 5 for the more aggressive pads, and a speed 4 for the finishing pad.
Do you think if you had of followed the Meguires ultimate compound with their ultimate polish as recommended (eg. Cut & polish…) it may have out-performed the Turtle 2 in 1?
Possibly, but then you're buying two bottles. Is that then unfair on the TW? (Where do you stop?)
Are you going to a review of the new EZ Car Care Evo range??? Wonder if it's either amazing or like their graphene wax....
Maybe. Not too sure yet one full brand review. Might just pick a select few.
@@DetailingandtheBeast they only sell all 5 as a kit currently, so couldn’t get it individually anyway.
That rings alarm bells straight away for me. No doubt theyll be made separate at some point.
@@DetailingandtheBeast I feel the same, that’s why I was hoping you would do a review :D then we either know it’s amazing and worth it or not.
I suppose it’s a lot of money. Appreciate your reviews!
I know I am a little late to this party... I would like to know what would you use to finish this. I have One and Done, now to get rid of the halograming, what compound and pad. I assume the Kochchem M302 will do, with what pad?
M302 on black pad. 👌
@@DetailingandtheBeast Thank you for replying. Many CZcamsrs don’t!!
So let’s say A new 2022 Ford Escape, my wife’s, kept clean from day one, 303 grapheme coated, not garage kept, minimal correction needed but want that percent shine?? M302 and black pad also??
@@coreybell6398 depends on the correction. But Ford paint is very easy to correct. If its got light swirls only and it's just a gloss up you need, then yes.
If there are any other defects then medium pad on 5.01 and then 3.02 on black.
@@DetailingandtheBeast thank you again. I’ll be following!!
I’ll stick with Scholl concepts until it runs out.
What is the throw of your DA?
The machine is this video is a DAS6 Pro, so 8mm throw.
Will this make a red car fender red again...from turning Orange😂
Turtle wax work perfect
Just got some of this to try , recently did my wife's car with Sonax perfect finish and was very impressed , it'll be interesting to see how they compare .
Me too. Just running out of SPF, and intrigued to here how they compare. I like SPF, so TW has hill to climb, especially given prices difference in Europe, where Sonax is good value.
6.66k Subs.... Nice.
😎 Getting there now. Trying for 10k before the new year but its gonna be unlikely I think. Good target though.
LMAO CHUCKIE! 😂
😂 Glad someone finally noticed it!
The 1 and done is now available on their UK website but its £30!
Ridiculous price frankly.
Agreed, and in my opinion not worth that price tag.
@@DetailingandtheBeast I would have to agree too.
Granted Brian at Apex Detailing seemed to get some damn good results with it, but im just not convinced it's worth getting over Sonax PF or the Koch Chemie range.
You should have used a non cutting pad and let both products do there thing , that would have been a real test
A real test is to use the product as the bottle and manufacturer states.
One in done best rezats as a detailing pro
3 fucking pads + 1 more for holograms
How long will entire car take?
A week ?
Uncle Turtle 🐢
30 smackers on TW site! That's a tad steep.
Too steep in my opinion
This wasn't fair, the one and done wasn't a 1 and done, was it? Comparing apples to oranges, .
🤣 Read that back and tell me how silly that sounds.....
I don’t understand how your showcase to product used for pads for one tough spot that kinda didn’t make sense
I don't understand your English.
Pls use havy cut compound far beter corection
how about this ......use meguires twice
I don't believe you are comparing apples to apples. The Megs is marketed as an entry level compound, while the TW is marketed as a professional grade. The Megs cost about $15.00 (US) & the TW is about $30.00 (US). Megs is available almost anywhere in a retail store, but TW is not available retail in the US. These are my thoughts, excellent job.
There are a lot of American detail channels that have tested TW products so they must be generally available there. Often the same product gets different names but that is just crafty marketing. They are made in the USA and cost a lot less there than in the UK for example. This difference is becoming wider as the products get more high tech. Personally I don't go for the hype type of selling. The gullible end up with shelves full of part used bottles and a thin wallet.
Megs is way better
Yeahoo 😂😂😂😂
Turtle Wax is better than Mequiars
In what sense?
Bro you got hazing because they’re not intended to be used with several pads without adding more fluid each time
Each pad was primed and used correctly my friend. If I show you priming and loading each pad, that would be 8 times the footage!
Sometimes things have to be taken as implied.
It is clear to see in the shots that an amount of compound gets added.
I got hazing because the product didnt finish down sufficiently.
No way you can compare Meguiars with the turtle wax I used both of them
Turtle is better?