SECRETS They DON’T Want You To Know - Ceramic Coatings & Waxes p. 1
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- What are the differences between traditional waxes, spray ceramic coatings and wipe on ceramic coatings? With some much confusion its easy to be led astray by lies and false claims by brands that think they have it all. Let's discuss the secrets they don't want you to know about ceramic coatings & waxes.
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I agree on the safety of products being so underrated. We’re working with these products all day and the accumulation of toxins over time is hazardous. This is why I love Sonax products as this is a main priority for them.
Jimbo, as I'm in my home cellar shop reconditioning my and the wife's summer wheels, I really enjoyed your tutorial here.
Very good points! Good reasons to have a varied selection of products in the quiver depending on needs and results. Keep up the good work. Shine on you crazy diamond!
100%. Thanks for watching and I’m glad these are helpful!
Phenomenal video backed with real world information. Thank you for taking the time to share.
Glad it was helpful!
LOVE THIS CHANNEL FOR THESE COMPARISONS!!!!
Thank you!
Thanks Jimbo, look forward to your updated cerakote ceramic video.
While it was unfortunate it was taken down I just wanted to tell you how helpful and important such a video was when such coatings performance determine whether we choose to use the coating professionally.
Currently the only media about Cerave ceramic is the ones praising it to be some revolutionary bulletproof coating which is clearly misrepresented.
Thanks for what you do.
Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it and plan to keep doing more of the same.
@@autodetailingpodcast Their response to your video really tells me everything I need to know about that company. Glad I learned who to not buy from.
Can you give me a synopsis of the Cerakote video, what product and what the results were? I never saw it
@@DanielReyes-hz1qk Basically, it got destroyed in the torture test by a few rounds of wheel cleaners.
@@chrisbradley3224 Not all that surprised. I use spray waxes and spray sealants on my powder coated wheels and none of them hold up very long when I use wheel cleaners. I try to rinseless wash my wheels when I can and always make sure to reapply protectant if I end up having to use something stronger
Great video thank you, and love your honesty. Although a good few years old now i really still rate Megs Ultimate Quik Wax, especially for the summer months. All the best from UK.
Nothing is easier and SHINES more than BEADMAKER!
Before you start washing your vehicle, park in a shaded area but not under a tree, make sure the car surface is not hot but cool to warm, don't use a Pressure Washer, use a garden hose, use the 2 bucket method. Spray and wet down the vehicle, foam your vehicle, rinse the car, foam again, microfiber mitts soaked and soap, wash from top to bottom, sectioning off each panel, keep the wash mitt fresh by rinsing in cold water, and reapply foam suds and continue cleaning, time to rinse the whole car. Dry the car with slightly damp microfiber towel not a dry one which could scratch, or use a leaf blower which works rather well. Some people like to De-ironize (Iron Remover) their vehicle this is the time to do it. Spray and let set for about 60 to 90 seconds and Do not allow the iron remover to dry, rinse the car, using a clean damp microfiber towel wipe down and dry the car as picking up the iron remover residue. Clay Bar or Decontamination can be done, use a lubricant and always keep the car panel moist and lube, never apply pressure, your clay bar mitt, sponge, towel, or clay should glide nice and easy. Detailing a vehicle is a slow and tedious task. Now the vehicle is ready to put a sealant over the clear coat, waxed and polished. Never allow the polishing pads to become hot and move quickly across the panel evenly, change pads often and reapply the polish. I prefer to do things by hand and not using power tools. Okay, there are numerous Detailing videos. If you apply a real Ceramic Coating, it has a long cure time and you do not want to polish a vehicle that has been Ceramic Coated. Cleaning and protecting your vehicle inside out takes time, Plan on spending 6 hours minimum up to 2 days. Visual inspection of the underbody/undercarriage is time consuming as most vehicle have covers. Look for rust and crevices where water collects, time to clean the underside and near the tires, suspension linkage. Some lubrication may be needed. The outer shell or top areas of the vehicle are easy to maintain, just don't forget the bottom takes a lot of punishment and often neglected.
I am just now learning about detailing. Do you not like the foam cannon with pressure washer?
Is it ok to apply a ceramic spray after a hand-waxing? Does this add anything or is it redundant? Good video.
Hey man appreciate the honesty in your videos. Something I’ve had a hard time getting an answer for is if you have a base layer whether it’s sealant or ceramic coating how does using a topper “enhance” the underlying costs properties rather than masking them?
If you think of it in layers, putting anything on top of something else would in theory protect what’s under it. Whether it actually happens like that or not could be up for debate.
Ah gotcha. So you’re essentially masking the coating. All the properties whether it’s hydrophobics or whatever will be coming from top layer
IMO most likely. Sometimes the hydrophobic will go away from a coating but you can tell the coating is still there so to get the water to bead again you would add a “topper”. Does that make sense?
@@autodetailingpodcast yes totally thank you.
On the far-right panel after the ceramic spray you did something called "levelling." And you did it by hand. What is this procedure? Good video and good idea about just using the hood.
Thank you yes confused. Are these still considered a sealant? I looked at reviews and saw mcquires fast was good spray and wipe on.
i like the griots ceramic spray wax. makes shine a bit and makes water bead/ shedding water off very nice. I wash the car, spray while wet and towel dry. then apply a dry wipe on/wipe off.
Nothing is easier and SHINES more thatn BEADMAKER!
I mix 2/3 spray wax with 1/3 spray ceramic. Seems to work well for me.
Great video
Thank you.
The thing I hate about waterbeads is they tend to dry with dirt in them and I'm left with a white car with a thousand little dirt dots. A flat panel kinda drys it self as the water falls off leaving less water spots
I agree, we need more sheeting effect products vs beading
@@kirkwilson5900 Some 800 grit all over will do that for you, frost the glass as well
Hello Jimbo, do you have a video of leather seating conditioning and the recommended products to restore leather seats damaged by water? Thanks
I don’t currently. It would be a good idea tho.
@@autodetailingpodcast Please do, if I may something that will restore and treat the leather from normal wear and tear. Thanks
What is your opinion of turtle wax paste wax with carnauba wax and Si02 in it. I think it's their effort to give you both water beading and glow at the same time.
ya it could be..i dont have much experience with it personally, i think sprays are the way to go.
Smart move applying everything except the one thst needed water. I was thinking yoy mist save that for last.
Hey Jimbo, got one for you to do and test
Traditional rinse of a prewash snowfoam suggests to blast from the top to bottom
I personally for the prewash phase i do not wait for foam to dwell for 5 minutes. Instead i go through as soon as possible am done foaming and blasting the periphery lowest sections ie side skirts and lowest points of front and rear bumper.
The logic behind it is those spots will have typically the most dirt by blasting 1st you a) remove a significant amount and b) the gravity introduces additional foam to duel in to the dirt that may have remain. Naturally i move up from down repeating the process. The flats you allow the soaps suggested time to work. And c) my rationale to this is to eliminate as much as possible for the contact step of washing and of course why waste the action potential of the foam to go down the drain literally
Good idea. I’ll try it out. Thanks for sharing
@@autodetailingpodcast You welcome, My Name is Hercules by the way.
Next up i have is to eliminate the 2 buckets method when you have a pressure washer and a foam lance.
Most soaps can generate a ton of creamy foam on a lance is fact.
Fact 2 more foam equals to more slickness
Fact 3 the solution in the lance remains intact from elements or transferring anything from the mitt to the bucket.
The rinse bucket works against us. Yes the heavy particles will go down to bottom. However we neglect that some will float and the phenomenon of liquids to become homogeneous. The additional dips will cause a stir hence a currents similar that to a spoon in side a mug with a dose of instant coffee. The funny part is the counter measure is to simple rinse it with a hose or the lowest setting of the PW with clear fresh water out of them
What happened to the Ceracote torcher video? I can't find it?
I took it down. I will be redoing it.
@autodetailingpodcast ok, thanks for replying. I'll look out for it.
Why does everyone want water beading? All it does it create an opportunity for hard water spots. I want everything to sheet off as fast as it can.
I agree. The problem is current products don’t really do that
Like 303 graphene..very slick,very hard to apply..after 2-3 months no protection!!! (4 time wash per month,ph neutral shampoo) trash!
The market needs durable fillers, have Walter get on it! Think Poorboy’s Blackhole level filling combined (or stackable) with a 12 month sealant without the fillers dying. Perfect for people trading in cars, shady dealerships, people who hate correcting, people who love tunnel washes, etc.
Collinite 845 Liquid or their 476 Paste is what you need as a durable layer / base. Poorboys will not last, the BH is a glaze by the way.
@@laurapalmerTDGE - They want something that is a durable glaze.
The Collinite products typically won't conceal like a true glaze will.
The issue with most glazes is their longevity.
@@danlc95 - Indeed, an auto paint glaze primarily aims to quickly provide a glossy finish and conceal surface imperfections. Durability is typically not the main focus of these products. For a clean paint surface, Collinite 845 can indeed mask minor imperfections due to its filling properties.
As an alternative to a pure glaze, products like 3D or Meguiar's AIO (All-In-One) can be considered. These products often combine polishing, glossing, and protective features, offering a more versatile approach than traditional glazes.
Another option is to polish the paint and then maintain it regularly. However, this requires more effort and time, but the results can be more durable.
There are indeed numerous options and approaches available, each with its own pros and cons, depending on budget constraints and the specific needs of the car owner. It's essential to consider personal preferences, available time, and the desired outcome when choosing the right product or approach for paint care.
Can you put a ceramic coating for durability and put a wax on top for the glow?
yes
What's on the right side of the panel I don't think you said in either video
I’m releasing it soon. Head to JimbosDetailing.com to get notified about it.
what was the ceramic coat you used here?
jimbosdetailing.com/products/hard-as-shell
Am I missing where part 2 is?
I just purchased the Hard as Shell for my jet ski, lets see if it really work as I have every dang thing on the market.
Thanks for the support!!
Is there a follow up to this?
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Have you used Rupes Uno Advance as a sealant?
I haven’t.
I just did a full refresh on my Ceramic Pro Gold and polished it with that at end and it came out amazing while adding a great layer of protection for the next 12 months. From what they state.
nice! sounds pretty good to me.
What do you mean by, "Leveling it down" please?
wiping off any residue
2 coats of Griots 3 in 1 ceramic carnuba I f8nd definately brings out glow .. and lasts 5 months. personally though I don't like beading I like and x think sheeting is way more important
LOL looks like you can type real fast.....and make lots of mistakes too......NOTHING will make your car shine better than BEADMAKER and nothing will protect your paint better than COLLINITE WAX....this was true 50 years ago and it is true today.....
@JEFFQUICKLE9 Beadmaker absolutely provides high gloss, but it does not even beat Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer or Xtreme Solutions topper or last as long either. It's a good quality product, though. As far as Colonite wax goes, it has to be applied again after a couple washes. That's not great protection. Turtle Wax Seal n Shine or Graphene Flex Wax is a more durable protection. Colonite wax can't hold up to 3 acidic or alkaline washes. that's why I use Griots 3 in 1 because it balances durable with chemical resistance, all while still providing gloss and hydrophobics. plus, it can be diluted as a detail spray. It's nice to have products that do many things well and not just do one thing great but use what you like... there's tons of great products that work 👍
Shoutout to Walter 🎉
Haha!
new subscriber here, i’m confused why don’t we know what brand products they are
I work as a private label consultant so these products don’t have a brand. But because there has been so much interest I’ll be branding them this year. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to get notified.
@@autodetailingpodcastnew sub here aswell from Sydney Australis. I’d be keen at looking at the ceramic coating. And a couple others you have there.
Ill have the ceramic spray coating available by Feb 1. @@vinsdragons8021
so what was the wipe on ceramic coating with the long open time?
coming soon...
@@autodetailingpodcast how soon? I have a car show in 2 weeks 😂
@@jlr3482 won’t be that soon. But this is your best option right now - jimbosdetailing.com/products/hard-as-shell-ceramic-spray
Jimbo, have you done a test on ceramic spray wax with infused graphine. Is it a product that is going to stay around or disappear? Thanks 🇨🇦👍👍
It’s definitely fluttering right now. It didn’t make the splash ceramic did a few years ago. But it has some benefits, it’s just about figuring out how to communicate those. I think it’s gonna stay. It might just not be the main call out in a product but rather have a supporting role.
Thanks and it was a nice way to put it.🇨🇦@@autodetailingpodcast
Nice plant 😁
Its been a while since ive been into the sceen (meaning not had a car ive cared enought for to wax),
But i use ti like magires spay wax and cerimic stuff. I think at thf time it was the first of its type to market. I had to ship it from the us to the uk to first try it.
It’s good stuff. I like the megs ceramic detailer better then the blue bottle stuff
You should have (taped off the top portion of the 'wipe on' and 'right' panels) and used the 'spray and rinse ' on that top portion of them both!!! [you said the spray and rinse can be used as a topper' for ceramic coatings for that extra gloss; maybe you didn't because they had not 'cured' enough yet?].
Not sure I understand. Everything cured. But it was just an example for base layers of paint protection.
Are these products from “Walter” coming to market?
Yes, I’m working on 2024 being the year. I’m working towards trying to figure out which product or products would best to bring out first.
To this day nothing is better than COLLINITE WAX for protection and also BEADMAKER for the best Shine you will ever see on a car!
Ehhh. I think there’s better stuff tbh
Another tried NuFinish ceramic?
That right side of the panel haunts my dreams...
Hahaha
whats on the right side of the panel? I seem to have missed that piece of lore
I have a video coming out this weekend that talks about the right side@@janielmoreira
@@autodetailingpodcast Can't wait for the "jokes on you guys its seal n shine." XD
LOL that would be so funny, I should have done that. @@janielmoreira
I've tried the Maguari's ceramic spay and even put two coats on but i found when it come up for a wash the product is weak and didn't last at all , and this spay on a car then rinse off ceramic spay doesn't really do it for me as i believe that all the panels on the car do not get covered fully and its a bit of a gimmick . I see that there are ceramic spays that you just spay on the car and rinse off but it don't seem right in my opinion.
I will soon try the cerakote ceramic coating and see how that performs under normal washing and how that stands up and if it lasts .
Unfortunately, I’ve found the same thing you were talking about to be true. So I’m on a quest to make products better and push our industry forward.
I just wanted the longest lasting thing for my boat so I don't have to keep wet sanding it
Is it oxidation that you’re having to wet sand off?
@@autodetailingpodcast yea
Are you confident that your testing is accurate this time? It might end up like one of your previous videos that you removed just because you heard rumors that they wanted it taken down. If your testing is fair and without any manipulation, you shouldn't be afraid of companies you've given negative reviews to.
Ya I’ve done tons of torture test it wasn’t about the test itself but that I had an unbranded product next to it that they felt I was comparing it to. They were mad because it was doing much better than their coating. That’s where the problem came in.
@@autodetailingpodcast i don't see any reason to remove it.
My torture test have been done on a ton of products that have survived way longer than the Cerakote product did. I also decided that I will not talk or even show a brand that conducts business the way they do. Good or bad results on a product that’s not a brand I want to showcase on my channel. There are too many reputable brands out there to talk about it.
The amount of cross contamination between the product application in this video was noticeable to say the least.
I'm not confused, I'm ignat😎
Level it? It’s microscopic. It’s not wax. Wipe on wipe off don’t try and get fancy .
Plus telling certain massive corps to “Phuck Off” would show us “normal guys” a massive amount of integrity. I tell all candy asses to read The Bill of Rights, heck, memorize them so you know who can recite them to certain corporations and their law group
Coming soon…
Where is the torture test video?
czcams.com/video/OmE-1XArSwA/video.htmlsi=XPYWTsItH2Y-HCLI
Where’s the secrets and who’s “they”?
You talk way too much and it's not constructive just time filler.
Thank you.
Don't con me Biff. Two coats.
Just for you.
McFly!!!
I just want to know who the chick is in your profile pic lol lol lol
What works for me best is a shop-vac filled with 20 dollar bills with the hose connected on the blow side. Best plutophobic coating ever.