The Real Reason Hasbro Fired Wizards Of The Cost And Magic Employees Despite Their Profitability
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Wizards Of The Cost and their products like Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons have been hit hard by the Hasbro layoffs. Seemingly illogically soo as they remain profitable but that short term profitability hides a far more sinister reality, namely that things like the lotr race swaps making white Haradrim and black Rohirrim are poisoning the entertainment market
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Turns out, the people they changed D&D and MTG for didn't actually end up buying either. Shocking ain't it.
Magic is doing fine enough to stay afloat, and D&D is on maintenance mode until 5.5E drops next year so we don't know what its sales are like. Hasbro is just taking out the collapse of the action figure market on WotC becuase WotC has overtly pissed away any good will it had left with the vocal fanbase.
The 10 people on Twitter who dont buy any products and only complain all day.
@@stevemanartmagic was already doing "fine" before this. It didn't improve Magics sales..did it.
@@stevemanart
Earlier this year someone dumped 6 PALLETS of new MTG cards into landfill...
@@sardonicspartan9343 Someone claimed it did?
This is what you get from a company that thinks D&D players want a Highschool Drama-Comedy for an adventure module.
I see the things they release and constantly catch myself asking: "WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?"
@@Optimusj1975Embrace Oblivion! 😉
They don't think that, they don't care about players.
They aren't capitalists, they don't do things for the players, stop thinking they are.
@@alfredosaint-jean9660 The Capitalists are doing the layoffs.
@@alfredosaint-jean9660 because they are cancel pig commies
As a great man once said : "Everything woke turns to shit"
Everything shit also turns woke
"Woke is bollocks innit bruv"
Mahatma Gandhi
@@Dezzasheep when did he say that? that is not english speak like a normal person edge lord...
Ah yes, which is why Gygax Jr.s system is just flying off the fucking shelves and Pathfinder is an awful footnote and bleeding players. Hasbrouck totally isn't just money hungry and killing its own systems by trying to suck as much cash out of it while attempting to stifle any creative input it can't monetize.
@@nukewaste I've been out of the loop. What is his system called?
To hell with Wizards they bullied my friend who is a small independent game designer. He had a card game called Spell Slingers and had the trademark on the name then wizards released their spell slinger pack or whatever and tried to take his game etc and told him in no uncertain terms they'd burry him until he was bankrupt
He should have kept all correspondence and went to the media.
@@Nic-xr1og No one would have listened, sadly bid corporations are smothering thousands of businesses every year i can promise you there wasn't a single word he could have leveraged in any way, they have lawyers specifically trained for this bullshit. What a great job right ? Hop in your suit, tighten your neck tie and go work everyday exploiting a system for the powerful so as to ruin the lives of small businesses, for profit, for money, for nothing else than having a nicer car than the guy next to you.
@@Nic-xr1og As if the media is worth a freakin F anymore, they're the cheerleaders of the woke regime and their corporate owners.
it didnt happen that's why he didnt@@Nic-xr1og
I dont know why they thought they'd sell toys for shows and movies that aren't targeted at children.
Also, the 40 year old man childs that would buy these toys as collectors because of nostalgia have been told they are no longer welcome and these franchises aren't for them.
It's like the movies where they tell you "this isn't made for you"...and then, ok, I won't go see it then... "Nobody us going to our movie! They're all just racist misogynistic bigoted...". Uh, wait, you told me it wasn't for me?
Plus if your spending big money for a collectors line they'd better be good quality. Hasbro isn't good quality there's a reason the masterpiece transformers lines are made by Takara and not them
Well, the typical thing is that children are seen as a very profitable market as parents and relatives can be very generous with them, and in many cases spend more money spoiling their children, than they do on themselves, beyond the whole issue of birthdays and christmas and so on. As a result when corporations get ahold of a property, one of their first impulses, especially with science fiction and fantasy with all of it's spectacular visuals, is to dumb it down for the youngest audience possible. Figuring more of whatever it is will sell if it's bought for kids instead. Likewise due to the political conditioning in schools and borked social media feedback, they figure "woke" is in with the youth in ways it is not. With a lot of these properties though they have been around a while, and the kids who are into them want them the way they are supposed to be if nothing else, which is why it fails.
Corporations hire Hasbro to kiddify IPs, and Hasbro buys IPs itself just to try and do the kiddification for more money schtick.... so it's not really surprising.
I think Tiktok also might be a factor, there are long standing rumors it's a Chinese tool of social terrorism and is designed to sort of manipulate the American public towards certain ideologies they know will hurt society, and provide bad data to companies in order to hurt the western economy. We don't know this is true, but some have been pointing to how Tiktok is one of the big things companies use to try and gather data on trends to market things to the youth in particular, and somehow they get it continually wrong. We don't know for sure there is a connection, but things like "Black Lord Of The Rings would sell really well" might be based on Tiktok data, with the feedback it generated being to tell them the worst thing they could do that the might actually believe.
The issue with older collectors is they expect higher quality figures. Aiming for kids is healthier for the industry in the long term. Especially because they grow up to be those collectors. The best outcome is if you can appeal to both. Although Hasbro is not appealing to anyone right now.
And the 40 year old man with children aren't buying it for thier kids.
Outside every other character alternating between an afro-caribbean hairstyle and half shaved mental illness haircut, and HR demanding that for every female cleavage there must be an equal representation of male cleavage (Wedding Announcement's flip side), there's issues with out-of-universe IP cash in sets and predatory "collectors" sets.
I highly recommend "Magic The Gathering's 30th Anniversary Edition Is Not For You" by Tolarian Community College for a good tip off of whats wrong with WOTC marketing side.
Just watched that video. Holy hell, it's even worse than I thought.
Eh I've been playing magic for decades, and I don't have a problem with the Universes Beyond, they are just fun side diversions that are aimed at introducing people from other fandoms to magic. While I don't care one way or another about the "collector" sets as they are just optional choices for those with fatter pocketbooks, I do agree with your other issues.
Honestly I think what they've done to D&D is far worse, they're systematically gutting it of all it's original flavor and things that made it interesting in the name of pandering to the easily offended. They're ripping out it's soul and leaving it as a generic boring fantasy shell of what it was.
@DeathsjesterKMNP
Eh I’ve been playing mtg for decades and absolutely stopped at that garbage. Just farming popular ip’s.
@@guyincognito1406 *shrug* Each to their own.
@@DeathsjesterKMNP So i've also being playing magic since Jr High, and i'm a Mythic level player in MTGA (i don't even netdeck, proudly) and I would say my main issues with universes beyond are the resources WTOC is devoting to products that not many long-term players like. Time and expertise aren't infinite so these titular sets of course lead to the degradation of the main sets.
A related issue is extra formats and power creep attached to these expansions:
Arena recently introduced "Timeless" as a means to make LOTR and other jank cards playable, which is more resources taken, and by most accounts it's unfun as it revolves around setting off insane turn 2 combos/counter spelling the combo. Arena also introduced "Alchemy" to sell more product through special alchemy packs and seemly as a way to use cards that were cut during play testing (speculation); again alchemy is not well received by most players.
I think it poisons the game at large too focus so much of the company on this stuff.
As for the collectors stuff there's two issues: one is the marketing specifically with the 30th anniversary was promoted as the community as a whole celebrating the anniversary of the game. The product they chose to roll out for this community wide celebration was a 1000$ box of 60 non-legal proxy cards, where they talked about the drop chances of potentially TWO (fake) black lotus in one pack(!) in order to lure gamblers in.
The people taken in by these crack-dealer tactics are going to include great amounts of people who really haven't thought things through. Generally I think most whales are just people who spend their pay-checks very poorly - not really richie-riches.
(Feel free to not respond, i'll assume we just agree to disagree. I know how long these "nerds with opinions" back and forths can drag on)
They have to face it. The people they want as customers don't give a shit about nerd things like fantasy, sci-fi, or maths.
It was always about using the nerd hobbies to advance more fucking communism and communists do not buy this stuff.
It's sad that that last part is increasingly true...
...or reading.
They didn't fire people who were responsible for these disasters. They fired people who were not part of that cult. These people are not rational in any way.
*Ding *Ding *Ding
I see no sources to back up that claim, but if they want to hasten their demise that badly, then so be it.
They fired quite a few of the people responsible
The idiots in charge at WOTC answer to Hasbro. And Hasbro sees their biggest moneymaker now losing money/prestige. Hasbro has already been losing money in every other department, in the past few years. They are desperate. And when rich people get desperate, it's the "activists" who suffer under their bootheel. Trust me, the activists are getting cleaned out right now, as we speak.
I skipped out on the LOTR edition of MTG specifically because of Blackagorn. Hardly anyone in my gaming circle bought the thing, except for one dude out of 10 of us, and he bought only the Hobbits deck. We're all big LOTR fans, went to see the movies in the movie theater ages ago, and we found the political signaling forced into the set to be atrocious.
Yep. Most only bought select cards for tournament decks, others because they were the strictly better cards for their commander decks, or offered too exclusive of an ability. Almost no one expressly bought any of it for the characters. The only thing selling BOXES was the One Ring serialized card. The moment it was found, the set lost half of its steam. The only other thing propping it up were the hyper-expensive modern staples that dominate tournament play. Namely The One Ring and Orcish Bowmasters.
I personally only got a Hobbit food deck, months later, because I expressly wanted the food synergy cards!
I quitted Magic around Weatherlight. As I'm still a Tolkien fan, I was interested in buying a box of two of LotR MtG to rediscover the game and also help forget the disaster Rings of Power had been. As soon as I discovered it also was a vandalization of Tolkien's work, I changed my mind and never looked back.
Now I have rediscovered my old MECCG cards, built new decks, bought a couple cards I was missing, proxied another couple that coudn't find anywhere... That game is great. Classical illustrations, super respectful with the lore... buy yourselves a second hand lot, if you have the chance.
I have a friend who bought quite a bit of the LOTR cards. He's black. Thankfully he took it well that basically all of his white friends aren't very cool with the race swapping.
@@matrimcauthon8609 I've found that many who belong to minority groups that play magic were actually far more harsh towards what they did in the LotR set than many of the white players. Something-something White Leftist's Burden.
Same here, the newer sets have too few good cards and I despise how M:TG increasingly lacks its own identity.
Wokeness is doing what it is designed to do: destroy
zergs
Reminds me of that famous Bible verse declaring Satan's agenda is to steal, unalive, and destroy.
@@Optimusj1975 That's their plan.
Jesus did say they are of their father the devil…
That’s exactly right.
Going woke and going broke isn’t the win we think it is. They’ve already accomplished what they want. They are destroying the hobby. Destroying the characters and IPs that inspire us and excite us.
The people running the companies don’t care, they’re already rich and won’t suffer consequences.
This is why gatekeeping is important
Stand strong 40k fans, dont give an inch!
No, not just 40k. Warhammer in general.
I fear it's too late. As screwed up as the GW Directors are, they kept the hobby "pure" for the most part. Now, letting Amazon in the gate, get ready for trans Sisters and Commissar Counselors. 😒
@@ironbomb6753you really think that with one of the biggest Super Fans running the Warhammer universe ??
@@ironbomb6753 don’t be hopeful but also don’t be bitter or black pilled.
you think the evil is not there? it is .. just that 40k is soooo dark and gritty that willtakelonger for you to notice...
The people that insist on changing the race of well known characters should just try to create their own epic property and make the characters any race they want.
But that's hard work and they refuse to do actual work.
Because they’re talentless hacks or simply activists.
But they are being used for exactly this purpose: to destroy. They are the useful idiots. They’re the outer circle that actually drink the Kool-Aid and think it’s good.
when will minorities decide they're tired of the lazy pandering? As far as I can tell, most of them eat it up - like they're dunking on whitey or something.
They still don't buy the stuff though lol.
@tomb7942 that would require those assholes to actually *have* any talent or good ideas of their own.
Case in point: Payne & Makay from Rings of Power. In 10 years of working there, those two clowns couldn’t sell *1* script to Bad Robot, who will, frankly, produce damn near any piece of tripe and yet they wouldn’t buy anything from those two jokers. So instead, they grovel before Jar-Jar Abrams, who gets them a gig at Amazon and they stuff their garbage scripts/characters into a Tolkien skin suit and expect nobody to notice. And thus, RoP was vomited into the universe.
I think it has more to do with the fact that they lack the talent or skill to create anything compelling on their own and can only cannibalize the creative content of others.
@@captainpazuzu So pretty much exactly what I said. I attributed it to laziness while you claim incompetence.
They became wizards, but at what cost?
😂
Grand Wizards some might even say...
30 years.
The coast.
Only one Wizard did not stray and he was Grey.
I remember David Mcdarby from SCG and how wacky of a man he was. He dressed up for Magic tournaments, he built off the wall decks, and he made watching the live matches on the SCG channel actually entertaining. In comparison, the guys they replaced him with gave a Frost type talk, before Frost did. (One dude basically said I am a happily gay and married man, so suck it if you don't like it, and another said he supports another professional Magic player donating his winnings to Plan Parenthood. Yeah, not exactly the kinds of things to say to your audience.)
I didn't think David was tainted that much, since he seem to always be a comedian first and foremost, but who knows, he may have changed.
Imagine sitting down to play a game of cards and having the other person across from you scream at you about how gay he is and he doesn't care what you think of it.
Neat. Are we going to play cards, or should I just pack up?
@@MechbossBoogie The funniest example of a leftist screaming happened at a GW store. The dude wore a mask, was overweight, and very vocal. He screamed that everyone should still be locked down, right in front of the owner. It took a bit not to laugh at how he basically wished the owner's failure right in his face.
Those that complained about this 2 decades ago were told it is insignificant and just coincidence, or they were just straight up called racists. Think hard if you were one of those people, most likely you were and you are just starting to realize this is ongoing the last 2-5 years at max.
I know the Guy personally he just wants to be fun. He isn't toxic. He just got caught in the crossfire.
If I was a big collector of lotr stuff I wouldn't even consider buying those cards.
You would be surprised by the amount of new players that told me they got into Magic because of the Lord of the Rings set.
@@alfredosaint-jean9660
If you don't mind, what are their thoughts on the "artistic interpretations" on / of the various LOTR characters and factions?
@@TheMaleRei They just laugh at it when it was bring up.
@@TheMaleRei yeah, a lot of people simply ignore it. Know a few who outright proxy it. My lgs’ owner even commented that he really didn’t like how the handled the art, both personally and because of how it affected sales.
What should have been a product to sell out the first day it came in, only the usual guys that buy everything + the subset of super diehard LotR fans that decided to buy it, regardless of the issues. From there they had moderate sales as the more normie crowd bought into it, but what should have been the store’s doors torn down, ended up with a decent crowd.
I personally refused to buy any of it until I caved on the food preconstricted deck because food is my favorite edh archetype (along with treasures lol). But most people ONLY bought any of it for the tournament legal singles, the one ring and orcish bowmasters the chief offenders. Only one or two guys actively play any LotR commander, and one of them is expressly super rightwing and basically just wanted the card effect, not the character. Which is pretty much THE universal sentiment for this whole debacle outside of twitter. Twitter just simps for anything DEI, damn the consequences for the brand and product.
@@TheMaleReimost of the people in my circles also gave joined because of the UB stuff. But they're only interested tangentially. They don't ask to learn or play.
I grew up on OG Kamigawa, I sold my stuff when I heard about godzilla cards. Since then I've made a 1000 card edh cube. I don't buy products anymore.
How many reprints of Lord of the Rings do you think we have until Gandalf the Gray becomes Gandalf the Black instead of Gandalf the White?
After all, a hero being associated with the color white is 'problematic', and 'not suited to modern audiences'...
"Black cloth may show dust easily, the Black Page can be performed very badly, the black light can reveal.... certain bad habits."
"If you have difficulty understanding whether you should vote for me or for Sauron, then you are no longer black, and he that busts a rhyme to understand it has left the ghetto."
He will have his name changed to "Gandalf the Ally" and his robe will be colored like the trans flag.
Well, considering that Saruman of Many Colours was peak *villain* Saruman…
@@Muljinn Oh yeah, that will have to go too. Rainbow wizards could only possibly be good.
Blech. >_
Actually they made Gandalf an asian man.
The “going broke” part of the equation isn’t the win we think it is. They’ve already accomplished what they want. They are destroying all the IPs. Destroying the hobby. Destroying the characters and the worlds that inspire and excite us. They want us demoralized.
The comunist and globalist agenda
stop tying your morality to generic pop culture shit.
So, where is the profit? What's the endgame?
Cultural Revolution 2.0
@@biggumstevens1784 politics is down stream from culture.
The well will remain poisoned until the kick Justice Geddes, yes, that's "her" name
Im suprised that nobody had a mental breakdown when they turned a brown haradrim into a white one
@dejannincic9671, because they didn’t. The corsairs of Umbar were not native haradrim. They were gondorians. White peoples. They broke away from Gondor and now act as hostile pirates. They’re aligned with the haradrim and Sauron.
These anti-white companies would never face-swap in the reverse. It is exclusively a one way street. They wouldn’t even tolerate an employee THINKING about race-swapping a black character into a white one. Not unless he was a uniquely evil villain, MAYBE.
Because the Haradrim are allied with Mordor, they had no issue changing a minion of the villain from brown to white.
No one cares about a random foot soldier, a single one at that, as they care more about a named character.
What hasn’t been tainted by the Chaos cult of woke?
I thought the woke culture was gene stealers. Either way HARESY.
They seem to have problem infecting 40k. Probably because woke=chaos, and they have problem pretending the good guys.
The woke have own the black library the last 10-20 years, deciding what books is produced, but they are still having a hard time making the lore woke.
You mean the Tau cult. Chaos just wants to be awesome, Tau will sacrifice anything to the "greater good."
@@bug5654 Incorrect
Khorne might be having a nap; but this is definitely the other 3 working together. Change/Inversion, Corruption/Rot and Perversion/Degeneration all working together.@@bug5654
They’re robbing Peter to pay the Pinkertons
The point isnt to make money, the point is cultural vandalism and promoting "the message"
Exactly, Iger from Disney also said in his weasel word salad his interest was in pushing Disney's political ideology not making it profitable.
Fortunately we are living in capitalist society where one need to make money in order to push those messages.
And “running out of other people’s money” thing applies in capitalism as well.
Oh wait you are telling me the hobbies i had as a child/teenager changed so much that I would not buy any of the new stuff these days for my son.... yeah sounds about right... My Stormtrooper in the corner agrees he - members...
Im a 25 years MTG player and i can say from the bottom of my heart: if WotC fails i rejoice.
Another woke company bites the dust. It will be your turn soon Disney. Soon.
Unless Nelson Peltz wins the hostile takeover and boots Iger out.
@@CommanderBohn Booting Iger wont delete their massive loses and pissed of fanbase.
@@GaroslolTrue, nor will it delete the thousands of ideologically captured activists working at every level of the company. They will fight Peltz in both overt and subtle ways unless he purges every last one of them.
Tell me, which "woke" companies have gone bankrupt?
@@nukewaste Ever heard of tragic fate of Bud - Light brother ?
"1 in 10 products can't be defective."
Um, Arch, it wasn't that long ago that WotC sold D&D rule books with a much higher 1/3 defect rate; missing covers, missing bindings, missing page cuts, missing pages, missing art.
like 3 of my 5e books already have bindings falling apart when they've just been chilling on a shelf lol.
Nevermind the multiple sets of MtG cards that were such low quality they felt like fakes.
I had pathfinder core book with no page 95 to 121 just pages 59-95 twice.....
7:14 12% returns doesn't sound like a lot on its own, but consider that that 12% is also being refunded, AND Amazon has to pay for the shipment back on top of that.
That amount is probably well within expected margins.. so I don't know what this guy is talking about
@@Big_Dai Really? You think 1 in 10 people hating a product they bought so much they return it is normal?
"You're a jobless, Harry"
Insert Darth Vader noooo here
Blackagorn got me.
Theoden might be even worse. The Rohirrim are, I believe, supposed to evoke a Germanic tribe allied to a Roman Empire in decline. Making the King black is just wrong for the culture Tolkien was going for
@@mjbull5156Close, Rohon is directly drawn from/inspired by Anglo-Saxon England
@@mjbull5156 It's nothing less than cultural appropriation.
I used to be a huge MTG fan. Used to be. I've spent easily thousands of dollars on Magic. Including on Arena just so I could play it more. I uninstalled when I heard about this set. I had enough. I've been annoyed that almost every angel in the last sets have been black. But I put up with it. But the moment they did this. The moment they decided to damage LotR. And yes this is damage. I am done with them. My bank account is happier now and I won't be back. More than likely the small pull of LotR fans that decided to try magic won't keep playing it, but I know a few long time players that gave up because of this.
Actually, according to a couple of ex-Hasbro employees, management there are NOT paying attention to the fan base or what customers want -- they really don't care, because people buy many of the products anyway because they are nostalgic and are enthusiastic about the brands.
Hasbro should be selling miniatures instead of board games no one wants to play.
So we need to spread the message
From "Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" to "Lord of the Rings: The King of Returns".
Underrated comment :D
I would make one suggestion: The Kangz of returns. Play into the 'we wuz kangz' meme.
Ah yes, Wizards of the Panderverse
Food>Toys.
I left behind wizards of the Coast and I don't plan on ever buying another one of their products again
Expectation: I'm ordering LOTR merch
Result: I get some kind of black nationalist LOTR fanfiction merch
"We wuz awways New-Men-Ore-Eans, yo!"
Return of the KANG@@TheMaleRei
We wuz Gondor!!!!!
Haha!
We wuz heirs of Gondor n' shiiiiet
How could this possibility happen ?
I'm going to guess that that woke political extremists and disrespectful behaviour towards the genuine fans might have something to do with it...
Star Wars: Visions would've been perfect as a possible avenue to sell toys. New characters, new vehicles, new stories that could've branched off as their own little bit based on viewership. Disney had to go and ruin that within 2 seasons, so that's a no go. All the new Star Wars content you can "technically" make toys for, but not the kind kids want and not the kind collectors really want either. Who's going to go out of their way to buy a little Leia? No one, that's who.
The Great Chain moves slowly but with wisdom.
I never wanted any kind of crossover in my MTG, nevermind a race-swapped crossover. Hell, I stopped playing when like 8th or 9th edition came out because I didnt like the move away from the old esoteric/occultic appearance of the cards. They began to look too clean, too modern - like pokemon cards >: (
Revised
Get wrecked
@@evilestmonkeey that's very OG of you lol. I thought the cards looked great through 5th edition. However, even back then I found the older cards more attractive than the current offering. What they've done to the once beautiful Serra angel is sheer blasphemy.
Thank you; yes. The older card art was just better.
@@ldl1477 *looks at Stasis* ...Yeah, no.
WOTC: We hate you!
Customers: Fine, Fuck off then, you aren't getting my money.
Hasbro: You idiots cost us customers, you're fired.
WOTC: Surprised Pikachu Face.
they made it very clear they didn't need or want my White man money anymore. far be it from me not to oblige them.
Heard that Warner Bros and also Disney are doing badly. All 3 are 100 years old this year.
I can feel tolkein turning in his grave
They got him hooked up to local grid he powers all of the near by hamlets.
wrapped him in copper and now the city of london is powered by the spin@@rayclawicefire2503
I still can't believe they ruined Asohka, there used to be SO MUCH _"fan art"_ of her back when toonami introduced her
bruh, that is really unabashed coomerism right there
@@poyloos4834 still, a measure of popularity. Back in the 20-s, I think, if somebody made a porn-parody of your movie it meant your movie is successful. Nothing new under these skies.
Just shows you how bad the show was if they could drive away all oh Ahsoka’s “fans”.
@@poyloos4834 To his credit, it's echelons better than being a fake "fan".
@@BloodwyrmWildheart is it though? is it really? being like, unreasonably horny and porn-addicted 24/7 is better than being a poser?
⚫️ theoden .. lord of rohan... Father of white sons and a white daughter.. leader of a white race of horse warriors... error what..
The great derpression started because large companies decided that profit was no longer an important motive.
The great depression started because the president at the time signed control of our money over to and created a federal reserve bank, which was a privately owned entity neither federal nor government that it used to enslave us all and control our money. Americans have been made legal fiction through their birth certificate classifying them as chattel freight with an identification number, their social security number and used to exploit their labor through taxation and theft of property as they also devalue our currency through inflation. The dollar today only has 4% of the purchasing power it had even 50 years ago. There was a reason the constitution said our nations currency was to be of gold and silver and any who tried to change that were to be 'neck roped'. They created a world where the slaves think they're free so they go along with the system blissfully unaware it even exists or that they're considered property of those who own the federal reserve banks around the world.. as for who owns those specific banks. I'll let you research that.
11% return rate seems kinda low for race-swapped LOTR
Most people dont bother to Return
I bet around another 11-20 % ended up being dumped right into trash or dosed with gasoline and set on fire. Tolkien fans seriously don't like people messing with their stuff as we saw when the Amazon tried to peddle their fanfiction TV series Rings of Power to them.
It's wintertime so most will just be thrown on to the fire, with the disappointed buyer imagining the civilization that did this to them going the same way.
They could just be using them as proxy backs or burning them.
Imagine all the people loosing their livelihood because an ideology bankrupted your company.
We waz kangs of Rohan and shiiiiet
I like how you put "Wizards Of The Cost" instead of Coast in the name of the video. At this point, it's probably a more fitting name.
Companies should gatekeep too. Because you can't sell your wares to people who are not interested in buying the product, but only in bitching about how product needs to be changed.
So they still haven't found the new modern audience that they keep telling us is totally real and not made up at all? Huh.
By "brain-drain" I absolutely hope they mean the galaxy-brains that decided MtG would be a little more profitable if it revolved around current-year politics. Those ulcers need to be drained.
The worst part to me is that the art, in a vacuum, is quite good. It's a shame it's wasted on this travesty.
The Haradrim one was very... basic
Mtg used to be my favorite hobby as I was a nerd in the 90s 😢
I hear that the Ahsoka Tano figure has a special Arm Folding feature.
I said this EXACT same thing in my own video. Its exactly why GW hasnt pushed "Female Space Marines" and likely wont.
I mean GW knows that they all ready have a female faction that attracts both women and male players, Sisters of Battle, which the people outside the 40k don't know jack shit about and guess where all the demands for Female Space Marines come from.
@@pyorre2441 considering there’s about 4 major Twitter accounts that push them every other day to their followers across social media I have a pretty good idea
Whether the far left likes it or not, wokeness is on its way out. Anyone that jumps on the bandwagon now is going over the cliff with it.
GW uses "woke" German (yes, that's a thing, this cancer is not just in English speaking countries) in their translated manuals so I don't buy it anymore.
I work at a local shop, I'll just add to this that the Dr. Who sets we have. Two decks have been sold out consistently but there is one, Paradox Power, the one with the female doctor. We'll NEVER get rid of and have piles and piles of them. Better off just putting them in a landfill. I don't really need to point out why that is the case.
Poor old Jodie Whittaker was and is anathema to merch in general. It’s why her action figures didn’t sell and they barely bothered releasing any in the first place. Yet a recolour of Colin Baker’s Doctor sells out and now goes for stupid sums online.
@@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs. Colin or Tom? Because Colin's doctor was kind of a jerk, pretty much the opposite of Tom's beloved doctor.
@@blshouse Collin. The Doctor who is supposedly the “unpopular one”.
WOTC has already shown they dont give a piss about my money. Why would I start giving it to them even if they've purged themselves of Woke?
Woke - how many DEI scores can we get if we make a black Chinese wizard based off a white wizard making it seem.like a cheap book leg version of what should be the real versions.
*bootleg
The term is from the Prohibition Era when smugglers would hide a flask of alcohol in their boots. It has come to mean cheap knock off goods.
"You are not welcome here racist"
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"Pls buy our shit"
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"Its time for layoffs"
I wish starvation and unemployment to every corpo on this planet.
I use to pick up some magic cards once in awhile. Was all hyped for Lord of the Rings cards, then saw some of the "changes" Will never by magic cards again, instead switched to a different card game
Wich one?
Yugioh has been shit for 8 years now
And pokemon is just meh
@@gewuerzwanze5627 I've been enjoying Android Netrunner, love the theme and mechanics. WoT owned the mechanics and Fantasy Flight for some reason was unable to renew the license, so it stopped printing. 2012 - 2018 RIP. The community (Null) started to run events and make new cards, but they are woke as fuck, and started to change the game length and difficulty, pissing off tons of players. There is a second project: Netrunner Reboot Project, they seem to be focused on the android netrunner experience, and seem to stay away from identity politics. Hope it stays like that.
The secondary travesty is that I like the art itself, but it's not going to go anywhere. It was made for subversion but not creation. Black Theoden looks badass, and I'd like to see more of him, but that isn't Theoden and has nothing to do with Tolkien's world.
Is the Haradrim guy's name "Chuck"?
oh yeah, they call him chcuk because he chucks the javelins
But I'm sure if they sold toys of properties from Japan they would be flying off the shelves. But no. Instead we get rows and rows of Shuricopters.
GO WOKE! GO BROKE!!!
People probably returned boxes after the singular copy of "The One Ring" was found. What a gimmick lol
That's absolutely going to have been the case, yeah. Every quick cash-in the marketing heads try in order to get a win attached to their name leads to horrible long term repercussions.
But the long-term repercussions are much harder to pin down to one person so for them it's personally worth it to sink the company.
That makes sense. Reselling is a big business.
LGS owner here stuck with a copy of said product, and yes it did in fact come off the line damaged, but it's not just the Gandalf one
The entire holiday box set for LOTR came with foil cards so warped they look like a stack of pringles
Also, you have the wrong box art for the product, that's the image for the collector boosters
Playstion are starting to do this behind the scences are the Japanese return to being the boss in March.
For disgrace no, japan is asking for "foreign" money, aka "Black corpo" of your choice.
Also, there are news about how they are cutting things in anime/manga industries to pamper the west.
And, in my humble opinion, both decisions are a mistake.
Everybody kinda do this subtly. Even non-entertainment sectors
Something: Its not about what you want, its about what the customer wants.
23 out of 200 people washed their hands of WOKEoftheCoast.
It's a start but not enough.
I remember last year I wanted to play some MTG after a long hiatus. But after I have seen the arts, the agenda they try to squeze in I realised that art is not a salepoint of mtg anymore, It screams for me that they do not need my money and broke any immersion for me.
11% return rate isn't every 10th product. It's every 9th product. A small nitpick but it shows that it's even worse.
Wow! This is the best summary of “what might actually be happening “ - but it sounds very possible- excellent video!
“It can’t be damages”
I mean it’s wotc… the company that double sided printed some commander decks, put the wrong card in one of the decks, sent out a set of 4 all the same commander decks instead one of each, put the wrong set of cards in packs and I’m sure there’s more I’m missing.
I mean you’re probably right but it’s 50/50 at this point
Go broke, get woke and ultimately CROAK! God f***ing speed!
Netflix sponsoring the next Magic set
They are still waiting for the modern and wider audience to materialize, I guess...
Another example of "mirage chasers"
Chasing after a phantom audience that won't buy you stuff, no matter how much you change it
I'm still bitter that the GI Joe 40th anniversary is... 6" scale.
For some reason.
Ok ill be honest i adore the collecters classified run and uh mind you there also doing the classic toys so on this point im kinda wondering whats wrong wirh the joes? Ita like one of the only runs they havent screwed up
@@DustinComeaux-zo5wp 6" scaling, that's the problem.
They didn't get famous off making that, and the previous 3.75 scale Joes proved they could do articulated, detailed figures at the classic scale.
Yeah. My father finally gave up Magic after years of lightly pestering him about it, given his financial situation being unstable.
At long last, those at his gaming store just largely stopped caring, and so he did as well. Thank god. He might finally get on top of his credit card debt.
Games and any hobby are supposed to be fun but when it takes thousands or even 10's of thousands to get into a game then they are just running a scam trying to victimize a hobby. You can play free phone apps better than PC games I used to pay for
Never forgive , Never forget
I distinctly remember a Star Wars phenomenon where a stormtrooper had a flame decal on his helmet. I audibly groaned when I saw the movie and realized they'd taken a shot of Finn with a bloody handprint and made it A flame... I almost call it false advertising.
I haven’t bought magic cards since the pyramid sets.
I got rid of my entire collection.
Buy singles, never whole boxes
Knowing the recent quality control of the premium products of WotC I would be ready to believe that 1/11 of every products is either damaged or missing parts.
We are talking about cards that arrive curled like pringles or have pressure marks from the printing/sorting machinery while still in the pachage here.
I hope Hasbro collapses due to their own stupidity and making terrible choices. You rely on woke movie studios savaging their franchises and this is what you get.
The flavor text on the theoden card tho lmfao "dark have been my dreams of late"
I played a lot of 5e, and even helped run and DM multiple discord servers fo West Marches play. At least a hundred games across the entire level range for different builds. I bought all the 5e content on DnD Beyond to share with people on the server. And then they started to go crazy. First, the de-link of Stat bonuses to Race, then retcon of the flying monkey history (they were enslaved by wizards who used magic to make them sentient, and the american progressives lost their mind). Then the retcon of some evil races to no longer be evil. And all this time I've been furstrated with their Rules and Balance decisions because it seemed to cater to casuals who hate making strong characters.
I have stopped buying their products for at least 2 years now, and have been turned off of DnD entirely.
Hasbros version of the King of Rohan looks slick as fuck, clearly that guy was the side character jack sparrow never got, a badass thru n thru.
Makes no fucking sense for LOTR tho, even casuals that saw the movie 20 years ago will just be confused😂
It's almost as if wizard say the ME Andromeda memes and said "Hold my soy drink."
I cant even be bothered to get annoyed at this, it has become entertaining.
We sure the Haradrim Spearmaster's not just wearing white padding under his armor?
We are. Look at the card art, and it's clear. About half the face is showing as well, and it is equally pale as the arms.
That's what I thought as well initially, as YT's compression absolutely butchers the image, but if you look it up independently, you'll see that yes; That's their skin.
After what they did to D&D and Magic f them!.
It's a shame too because the Theoden, King of Rohan is good art. It's just not Theoden, King of Rohan. Make your own stuff divorced from politics and it could be amazing.
This is happening to all of western civilization at this point. Culture, societal trust, trust in institutions, gender relations, morality of any kind, etc. Just like brands and IPs, these things are being burned for cold, hard, short term cash, and they will golden parachute out with bags full of money when it's about to collapse. And when everything has collapsed, those who have even thought that far plan to either be dead, or secure in mighty castles ready to institute some sort of mix of feudalism and company towns, with soviet style (plus modern tech) control over people. But either way, society is being gutted in every social way (and economic, and material to some degree, etc) so the people with the power to do it can make a quick buck.
Grand Wizards of the Coast can't help but continue to destroy themselves.
As a former M:TG player I can verify the games losing fans. It's gone from a game for the masses to a game for whales who drop $2,000 on a new set.
They can start with the CEO that they put in place at WotC. You know, the one who openly stated to the public within her first month of being there, that she wanted to turn the brands of MTG and D&D into the profitability of gambling cash shop, pay to win phone games. You know, the one who bought out Roll20 so they could turn D&D into a VTT to do the afor mentioned cash shop. You know, the one who decided to try and close the Open Gaming License, which pretty much tanked D&D overnight. You know, the one who decided to reprint older MTG cards that where legendarily worth a lot of money, making the original cards worth less money, while making WotC more money, and then saying it was for the fans, increased availability and all that. Plus all the things stated in this video.
Yeah. Maybe start with her.
All they had to do was make the cards look like the Peter Jackson movies instead of this black washing an most people would've eaten it up, but sh*tl ike this tells me that they *DESERVE* to lose billions at the very least.
Im not convinced Hasbro has learned his lesson yet. We will see what happen, if they become Hasbeen or not.
"Hasbeen" Lol, love it. I'm defnitely stealing that.🤣