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    Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer-Home Dragons battle against each other to try and secure a deal with two entrepreneurs and their revolutionary app building service that could potentially bypass the App Store and remove conventional tech distributing methods from the pipeline. One dragon calls it "One of my toughest negotiations in the den".
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  • @liamlennox3504
    @liamlennox3504 Pƙed 5 lety +3783

    Jenny's husband: Hunny are you home?
    Jenny: I'm out

    • @thedunyadoneya2628
      @thedunyadoneya2628 Pƙed 5 lety +26

      *jenny invests*
      *original entrepreneur sells their share of the business*

    • @adz754
      @adz754 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      Gold đŸ‘ŒđŸ»

    • @goonseb6456
      @goonseb6456 Pƙed 4 lety +15

      Be realistic as if that thing has a husband

    • @maryfiaola3686
      @maryfiaola3686 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      lol

    • @hilaryc3203
      @hilaryc3203 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @@goonseb6456 I googled; she does and has kids as well. However, she's not a person that someone would ever call "honey".

  • @tarcal87
    @tarcal87 Pƙed 4 lety +6723

    I felt bad for Tej, he's always a fair, decent, classy guy...

    • @chessworks5124
      @chessworks5124 Pƙed 4 lety +514

      Yh that's so peak. The way the prick did it to him aswell

    • @crymore331
      @crymore331 Pƙed 4 lety +130

      @@gpk3003 chill out lmao

    • @Bulskee
      @Bulskee Pƙed 4 lety +162

      Why don’t you make a deal with him if you fancy Taj so much

    • @tarcal87
      @tarcal87 Pƙed 4 lety +672

      @@Bulskee What half-assed comment is that?

    • @livinindubai
      @livinindubai Pƙed 4 lety +10

      WHat the bad rep abt Taj?

  • @adam_p99
    @adam_p99 Pƙed 4 lety +2399

    Jenny doesn’t have any money. She’s just got nectar points.

    • @majesthijmenii1976
      @majesthijmenii1976 Pƙed 4 lety +29

      And for that reason, I'm out

    • @johnb8956
      @johnb8956 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      3 million nectar points for 0.00000000000000000000001%

    • @user-jq3qt8no7h
      @user-jq3qt8no7h Pƙed 3 lety +7

      Adam P she’s so annoying

    • @fplfred
      @fplfred Pƙed 3 lety +9

      I howled at this comment hahaha

    • @mjjj-bk5ti
      @mjjj-bk5ti Pƙed 3 lety +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @josipcuric8767
    @josipcuric8767 Pƙed 4 lety +1246

    Tej: literally gives an offer they wanted
    Guest: Tej, I'm gonna decline your offer

    • @stinameaner
      @stinameaner Pƙed 4 lety +116

      I know it was so rude. I know he wanted Peter but he didn't have to be a dick about it

    • @selobaneboas1241
      @selobaneboas1241 Pƙed 3 lety +43

      It was a psychological tactic

    • @AHMED-ly2ml
      @AHMED-ly2ml Pƙed 3 lety +122

      By declining tej he just reassured peter they didn't just want the money but his help too and that made him stick

    • @TheM0EiN
      @TheM0EiN Pƙed 3 lety +13

      AHMED that’s exactly right

    • @vishy
      @vishy Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Yes it was just stupid and amateur time

  • @JakeFitnessLifestyle
    @JakeFitnessLifestyle Pƙed 5 lety +4479

    Jenny only appears for the free glass of water.

  • @kkaappoooorr
    @kkaappoooorr Pƙed 4 lety +4104

    Guest: “ Hi, my name is Out”
    Jenny: “ no I’m out”
    Guest: “ no, you’re Jenny”
    Jenny: “...and for that reason, I’m out”

  • @arberbraja
    @arberbraja Pƙed rokem +383

    Tej seems like a really down to earth person. These guys put him down and rejected him right away ... Yet when a deal was achieved he clapped for them.

    • @garybuttherissilent5896
      @garybuttherissilent5896 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +10

      cry me a river lmao, these guys are all wolves

    • @kennethpayne7729
      @kennethpayne7729 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +2

      Tej is a decent fella

    • @RAC345
      @RAC345 Pƙed 19 dny

      Met Tej he’s actually really down to earth and a decent guy

  • @roni2977
    @roni2977 Pƙed 4 lety +1978

    It was rude how he negotiated Tej down to 5% then rejected him, that was low.

    • @andrewstubbs822
      @andrewstubbs822 Pƙed 3 lety +240

      I agree with you there, Roni. For a businessman Tej has the strangest personality; like an understanding and empathic marriage guidance counsellor. A great guy without a shred of narcissism or aggression. Perhaps that's why he's the second richest Dragon in the den.

    • @reckszrka2396
      @reckszrka2396 Pƙed 2 lety +75

      Exactly that was disgusting

    • @DreTheChronic
      @DreTheChronic Pƙed 2 lety +42

      The dragons ask for ridiculous equity to steal away people's businesses, Peter asked for 15% because knows they'd want him... how is that not the same

    • @markdelej
      @markdelej Pƙed 2 lety +33

      Not really. He has a great business and tej wanted a piece of the pie. He made a mistake by saying will any dragons go down to 5%, but he actually only meant peter or deborah. Then tej got horny when he mentioned 18 million nett worth by end of the year and jumped in.

    • @bctiger7882
      @bctiger7882 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      People think the business world is some
      Sort of candy land with gum drops and teddy bears. The business world is more like a dog fighting pit.

  • @hahahaha-oi2jm
    @hahahaha-oi2jm Pƙed 5 lety +3427

    The way he rejected Tej was ruthless...bloody hell. I actually felt bad for Tej

    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii Pƙed 5 lety +284

      I think Deborah was strongly considering pulling out at that point

    • @miamiheatbaby87
      @miamiheatbaby87 Pƙed 5 lety +35

      I loved it

    • @abduldeay1580
      @abduldeay1580 Pƙed 5 lety +96

      business is akways ruthless, no mercy , i liked their approach

    • @DavidJJames
      @DavidJJames Pƙed 5 lety +76

      I hear there's gonna be a racial discrimination case over it.

    • @KristianH1986
      @KristianH1986 Pƙed 5 lety +36

      The words ‘taste’ and ‘medicine’ come to mind

  • @alanhoward4082
    @alanhoward4082 Pƙed 5 lety +1709

    guests: "hi, I'm..."
    Jenny: "...Out".

    • @giuseppebaidoo6538
      @giuseppebaidoo6538 Pƙed 5 lety +6

      ahahah...she finished the sentence

    • @oreo3351
      @oreo3351 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Adam H DEAD

    • @gina1emo
      @gina1emo Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Adam H Jenny’s an idiot & waste of time, waste of Dragon space!!!

    • @rippawallet
      @rippawallet Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Guest: "H-"
      Jenny "Im out"

    • @youfritter
      @youfritter Pƙed 4 lety

      @@rippawallet bell dings on the lift to announce arrival of guest
      Jenny: "I'm out"

  • @Jackson-pu7gd
    @Jackson-pu7gd Pƙed 2 lety +473

    Jenny was finally on the verge of making an offer, but when the guy mentioned the bet he had, spite got the better of her and she spoke her 2 favorite words.

    • @gideonMorrison
      @gideonMorrison Pƙed 2 lety +8

      3 words :)

    • @marchumphreys3865
      @marchumphreys3865 Pƙed rokem +17

      nope 2 words : 1 I'm 2 out.

    • @Sumithroul2000
      @Sumithroul2000 Pƙed rokem +11

      I have barely seen her make an offer. I wonder why she is even on the show. I like Touker throwing in several generous offers, but entrepreneurs prefer to stick to where the money is, with Peter or Deborah.

    • @legendarypo183
      @legendarypo183 Pƙed rokem +5

      Jenny=Barbara😂

    • @brentea65
      @brentea65 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

      She won her bet not to invest this episode 😂

  • @rcl8793
    @rcl8793 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +50

    They are such great negotiators, they sold 5-10% more of their company than they had to and insulted most of the others.

  • @purushottam2010
    @purushottam2010 Pƙed 4 lety +3520

    Tej: 5%
    Jenny: 2%
    Debry: -4.5%
    Peter: 40% and your Wife's Ass
    Guest: Peter we have a deal!

    • @Crypto-knight90s
      @Crypto-knight90s Pƙed 4 lety +29

      Lol

    • @magnusward9672
      @magnusward9672 Pƙed 4 lety +84

      Purushottam Hari it’s because Peter is a bigger and smarter dragon.

    • @emile8592
      @emile8592 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      hahhahahha

    • @Crackpot_Astronaut
      @Crackpot_Astronaut Pƙed 4 lety +35

      Don't call her "Debry."

    • @stinameaner
      @stinameaner Pƙed 4 lety +34

      @@magnusward9672 bigger but not nesscarily smarter he turned down businesses which turned out to be huge such as Tangle Teaser and Destination London

  • @xamurai00
    @xamurai00 Pƙed 4 lety +3554

    For every business added to peters portfolio he gains a cm in height

    • @evanrixon806
      @evanrixon806 Pƙed 4 lety +37

      xamurai00 underrated comment

    • @zh1568
      @zh1568 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      LMAO

    • @shaun3473
      @shaun3473 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @mattg8600
      @mattg8600 Pƙed 4 lety +56

      Shouldn’t Jennny be a dwarf then?

    • @crux33
      @crux33 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      @@mattg8600 LMAO

  • @AdamAlq
    @AdamAlq Pƙed 4 lety +525

    Peter’s their perfect investor. So perfectly connected to the tech world that he has to ask what Wix is Lmao 😂

    • @ophiolatreia93
      @ophiolatreia93 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      To be fair I thought it was a hardware store. I'm lysdexic tho

    • @WhatUrYaLookinAtMyGutFer
      @WhatUrYaLookinAtMyGutFer Pƙed 3 lety +31

      @@ophiolatreia93 Thats Wickes you're thinking of brother. Pronounced the same way, hence the confusion.

    • @lukemcinerny8220
      @lukemcinerny8220 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      It was for the viewers

    • @sazizuma7650
      @sazizuma7650 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      how venture capitalism works

    • @astapasta7119
      @astapasta7119 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      His question went waaaay over your head it seems!

  • @crayvd8229
    @crayvd8229 Pƙed 3 lety +378

    Tej: “I’ll give you my entire net worth, for 1%”
    Peter: “I’ll buy you a drink, in exchange for your entire company and the adoption paperwork for your children”
    Business owner: “Peter all the way!”

  • @simplysuperman6988
    @simplysuperman6988 Pƙed 5 lety +4684

    "If anyone drops to 5% we have a deal"
    "ok I'll drop to 5%"
    *declines deal*

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 Pƙed 5 lety +190

      Yeah like wtf?! EVERY other time the Dragons get that attitude about favouring which dragon some upstart wants or how they told Taj and Touka for sod off they'd be pushed down that lift shaft. These guys were VERY lucky they had something Debra and Peter really wanted.

    • @MrWeeRhys
      @MrWeeRhys Pƙed 5 lety +136

      racisttttt

    • @mawnyyy
      @mawnyyy Pƙed 5 lety +31

      simply superman69 it's called being Scottish 😂😂😂

    • @Greavesy
      @Greavesy Pƙed 5 lety +11

      MrWeeRhys keep virtue signalling

    • @Asaver001
      @Asaver001 Pƙed 5 lety +245

      They have a very promising business, and giving away 5% of it to someone with little expertise in that field for a relatively small amount of money wasn't something they were willing to do. They came with a clear goal in mind: get a dragon that can help in the business. They don't need the money, they need the connections.

  • @mirageinthedesert5448
    @mirageinthedesert5448 Pƙed 5 lety +2109

    Person: if anyone is willing to go down to 5% I'll accept today
    Tej: Ok, I'll do that deal
    Person: No thanks I don't want that offer

    • @jordanforbes2557
      @jordanforbes2557 Pƙed 4 lety +379

      Yeah it was pretty rude.

    • @RockGodMusic
      @RockGodMusic Pƙed 4 lety +38

      Because of peters stake lol.

    • @aaronh678
      @aaronh678 Pƙed 4 lety +11

      @Kasar Daily Vlogs for you Where does it say that?

    • @tomxixtus
      @tomxixtus Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @Kasar Daily Vlogs for you No it never.

    • @boom4301
      @boom4301 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Kasar Daily Vlogs for you it actually done really well mate

  • @Aatrixx
    @Aatrixx Pƙed 4 lety +525

    That was super disrespectful to Tej, only dragon willing to compromise but I wonder how Beezer app is doing ?

    • @andersonaldo1340
      @andersonaldo1340 Pƙed 4 lety +54

      He inherited all his money, the other dragons have better business skills

    • @SunshineRainbowWhitePony
      @SunshineRainbowWhitePony Pƙed 4 lety +10

      They got successful

    • @MusicalMemeology
      @MusicalMemeology Pƙed 4 lety +72

      their website is down right now

    • @user-wc5ff4xp5g
      @user-wc5ff4xp5g Pƙed 4 lety +18

      @@MusicalMemeology lol

    • @stinameaner
      @stinameaner Pƙed 4 lety +36

      @@andersonaldo1340 doesn't matter as he is still making it a success. If he was useless the company would have collapsed so he still has good business acumen

  • @jenniemcneil7821
    @jenniemcneil7821 Pƙed rokem +103

    An investment in knowledge pays the best interest."

    • @danielstephen6214
      @danielstephen6214 Pƙed rokem

      How is the forex investment done.

    • @adamcrown8664
      @adamcrown8664 Pƙed rokem

      Yes, fx and Stock investment, I heard it's very profitable

    • @lornagift6743
      @lornagift6743 Pƙed rokem

      Did i hear someone say forex ?

    • @lornagift6743
      @lornagift6743 Pƙed rokem

      Do you believe I invested ÂŁ4,000 and got paid ÂŁ51,070 in seven days?

    • @lornagift6743
      @lornagift6743 Pƙed rokem

      That's not even all, that was my first profit when I started.

  • @samuelodell
    @samuelodell Pƙed 5 lety +851

    Director: aaaaaaand action!
    Jenny: and for that reason I’m out

    • @masindi5969
      @masindi5969 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      😂😂😂

    • @ddonlee
      @ddonlee Pƙed 4 lety +1

      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @skywalkies77
      @skywalkies77 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Masindi 😂👌

    • @r3h4nullah
      @r3h4nullah Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Scodell
      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
      This is the best "im out" comment ive seen so far. Nice one 👍👍

  • @levi_sugar_hunting
    @levi_sugar_hunting Pƙed 5 lety +1423

    Guests: We have a cool product!
    Jenny: I dont like products and for that reason, I am out!

    • @bobski4800
      @bobski4800 Pƙed 5 lety +30

      Levi more like;
      Guests: I’m looking for investment.
      Jenny: I don’t invest, and for that reason I’m out.

    • @MrLiquidxIce
      @MrLiquidxIce Pƙed 5 lety +5

      i dont understand why you would invest in this product. you only have to pay a one time fee of 25$ to android to publish your apps. why go through the extra shady path of bypass the app store just to save 25 $

    • @SiriusXification
      @SiriusXification Pƙed 5 lety +5

      This is not a cool product at all, they just had a good presentation.
      It's investor bait. "I don't understand big data but it could be a revenue source in the future"-type statements in a pitch kindof give it away.
      It's basically a marketing service that puts app icons on your phone that lead to web sites. ( in this case, Single Page WebApps )
      Your grandmother would use that, not you.
      Then again, it's not really asking for an awful lot of money.

    • @SiriusXification
      @SiriusXification Pƙed 5 lety +1

      ​@@MrLiquidxIce It's 30% fees from Google Play afterwads, but the big thing here is that it's a side channel for convenience rather than rule breaking.
      Also google has restrictions on apps that are themselves marketplace apps, and has a variety of restriction on things like explicit content.

    • @Human1league
      @Human1league Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@SiriusXification Anything goes into the Play Store, they have almost no Quality Assurance in place. Unlike the App Store.
      Still, this Beezer thing is a pretty stupid product with no future, actually.

  • @mikewalsh68
    @mikewalsh68 Pƙed 2 lety +32

    Jenny: I'm a species of fish that's closely related to salmon, and for that reason I'm trout.

  • @glowingdawn9179
    @glowingdawn9179 Pƙed 4 lety +98

    Jenny: Everybody thinks this is a good idea, for that reason, I'm out.

    • @HarryHodgman
      @HarryHodgman Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I don't think she knows what an app is

  • @fionnbarrett1030
    @fionnbarrett1030 Pƙed 5 lety +3142

    Jenny never makes an offer ever why is she even a dragon

    • @DonnyStorm
      @DonnyStorm Pƙed 5 lety +477

      Because she has massive tits

    • @miikey_lol
      @miikey_lol Pƙed 5 lety +117

      she does, and when she does, she shares the offer with another dragon. she won multiple businesses

    • @DeAngelo77
      @DeAngelo77 Pƙed 5 lety +57

      Is she the Barbara of Shark Tank?

    • @infantry031
      @infantry031 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      STFU
      U UGLYFUCK

    • @gangustukuntz7419
      @gangustukuntz7419 Pƙed 5 lety +29

      Because she uses her head for thinking, unlike a man who often listens to the little head

  • @nadia1994ization
    @nadia1994ization Pƙed 5 lety +612

    What a disrespectful thing to do to Tej

    • @leongargan6024
      @leongargan6024 Pƙed 4 lety +61

      It's business. Nobody cares about feelings.

    • @DennGreenIII
      @DennGreenIII Pƙed 4 lety +48

      Sort of, but not really. Clever tactic actually, because they only had all 5 in mind, and as a backup, 2 specific dragons. Tej was not one of them. By blowing down his offer, it showed two things, that they were serious about their business, and that they we're going to stand firm on their negotiation. Of course Peter called the bluff in the end, it put a lot of pressure on the two dragons they wanted, and it could have just as easily went in their favor. If it were anyone else, the investor would have most likely budged as to not lose out on such a big opportunity. Peter has been playing the game for a very long time though, so he made a calculated decision, and it was the right one.

    • @guitarsolos89
      @guitarsolos89 Pƙed 4 lety +34

      @@DennGreenIII Peter knew from the start when they said "we're looking for 2 specific dragons" that he was one of them, the guy is specialized in this industry.. For that reason he could put the stake high and still get a deal. He's very experienced and clever.

    • @ThumbsHunter
      @ThumbsHunter Pƙed 4 lety +10

      dont worry, he got a couple millions to whipe his tears when he is crying in his lamborghini on the way home.

    • @romanempire8705
      @romanempire8705 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I don't think it was disrespectful at all, it was respectful. No pity, no name calling, mocks, etc

  • @samcarver1041
    @samcarver1041 Pƙed 4 lety +243

    Why did he waste Tej’s time like that?? What was the point??? I’m so confused. What an idiot. Got so cocky

    • @nourdaniel2437
      @nourdaniel2437 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Definitely he gave him the deal of his life but some guys prefer some certain names

    • @deancox1664
      @deancox1664 Pƙed 3 lety +20

      What a disrespectful tosser he was to tej, I hope he has no luck in business. One day he may have to ask tej for a job,, stacking shelves with vitamins and health foods......tej is only worth few hundred million dollars,, hope he gets over losing out on this deal,,đŸ˜€đŸ˜†đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚

    • @pedrooliveira2743
      @pedrooliveira2743 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      I'm not a businessman in any capacity, but I saw it as a matter of showing intent, his objective was to show how set he was into getting either deborah or peter

    • @accuriousgaming
      @accuriousgaming Pƙed 3 lety +10

      By getting Tej to come forward with his offer at the guest terms, he reassured that the valuation was a good deal.
      Peter and Deborah was asking for more, by refusing Tej who is a credible Dragon, the guest takes a stand that they are there for the opportunities the Peter and Deborah have. It was his way to negotiate their terms. They were now pressured to go lower or leave the deal.
      It was a ballsy move, we all could feel it. The rejection towards Tej indirectly became an insult against all Dragons, rather than a confirmation of the business's value.
      Peter's comment at the end confirms that this negotiation was one of his hardest, he was most likely debating with himself whether to go down or not.

    • @RoastLambShanks
      @RoastLambShanks Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@accuriousgaming He should of left Taj in the running to pressure peter to come down. He should also have been explicit in saying he would like Peter and Debs to come up with a joint deal. He didnt leave them time to come up with that themslves... unless the vid was badly cut.

  • @leeshetliffe
    @leeshetliffe Pƙed 4 lety +321

    "Ok Dragons, let's try my quiz business. Name 2 body parts, but miss a letter from one word."
    Jenny:
    "Eye, Mout"

  • @DVSS77
    @DVSS77 Pƙed 5 lety +2958

    This comment section is full of Jenny, and for that reason, I'm out

  • @B33fJ3rk33
    @B33fJ3rk33 Pƙed 4 lety +485

    Jenny: “your pitch has interrupted this sketch I’m drawing on my pad, and for that reason, I’m out.”

  • @MrsAsam2006
    @MrsAsam2006 Pƙed rokem +47

    Love how Deborah is so complimentary to her fellow dragons especially when the entrepreneur was so rude to Tej and Touker

    • @vikraal6974
      @vikraal6974 Pƙed rokem +3

      They were also rude to Peter after the show. They rejected his offer and went without Peter. They are sitting at 5 million valuation today in 2022 not even close to 18 million they thought they would cross in 2019

    • @TkrzTT
      @TkrzTT Pƙed rokem

      @@vikraal6974 how do you know they rejected Peter?

    • @susanwaugh9711
      @susanwaugh9711 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

      @@vikraal6974Hardly rude, it’s business. Peter has had his fair share of moments in the Den where he has been rude, and egotistical. During this pitch the entrepreneurs had total control and for the first time Peter was speechless and unsure of what to say.

  • @KhenpoDub
    @KhenpoDub Pƙed 4 lety +152

    2018: "This might be the end of the App Store".
    January 2020: Hmm where is Beezer?

    • @Garage35Racing
      @Garage35Racing Pƙed 3 lety

      can’t see Peter Jones on the list of current shareholders.

    • @lukemcinerny8220
      @lukemcinerny8220 Pƙed 3 lety

      Would he invest in his own name? I'd of thought he'd do it through a venture capital firm he owns for tax purposes lol

    • @IronM1ke1983
      @IronM1ke1983 Pƙed 3 lety

      500,000 of further investment in 2019 looking at the equity section of the balance sheet

    • @YOUNGEEZYDR
      @YOUNGEEZYDR Pƙed 2 lety +1

      He rejected peter’s offer after the show

  • @Nevexo287
    @Nevexo287 Pƙed 4 lety +1108

    That sounds like a great way to spread malware.

    • @ebonee9899
      @ebonee9899 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      Nevexo i agreeee

    • @wushuallan
      @wushuallan Pƙed 4 lety +114

      Took some scrolling (because of all the Jenny jokes) but finally found someone else who thought the same

    • @edwardqueen5791
      @edwardqueen5791 Pƙed 4 lety +25

      @@wushuallan And for that reason...

    • @redbeard3946
      @redbeard3946 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      I'm torn because, there's freedom in it too. But of course if you have no idea what you're installing then yeah, it's a one way trip to malware city.
      A rating system could give warnings but that would only do so much.
      Actually, the more I think about it, even with app stores I'm pretty sure I've installed crap that's practically malware.

    • @papaogen
      @papaogen Pƙed 4 lety +1

      My first thought too.

  • @KanielOutis147
    @KanielOutis147 Pƙed 4 lety +698

    Peters always so ballsy they’re all undercutting each other going down in percentages he just doubles all their equity requests đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @lajeandom
      @lajeandom Pƙed 4 lety +25

      he's a beast! And very classy as well.

    • @jeeroylenkins3081
      @jeeroylenkins3081 Pƙed 4 lety +52

      The man knows what he's worth, he's worth much more than most of the sharks so is actually entitled to request more equity.

    • @sirstriped5233
      @sirstriped5233 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Maybe it's because he isn't the lowest offer a firm at being slightly higher. If you are looking for house work and go for the lowest bid, chances are it will be a cheap job. Which may not be true about the dragons but maybe that subconciously is taken into account. They dont feel like they are getting a bad deal because they are willing to give up a little more for a little bit better of a job. Which may or may not be true.
      2nd guess is that in sales you want to give off the vibe of success. If you pull up to a meeting in a broken down 1990 rust bucket, you will have a worse chance then if you pulled up in a lambo. How people perceive you also matters.

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Cuz he knows that he's the one everyone wants.

    • @CallACAB93
      @CallACAB93 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Peter's a smart guy. The entrepreneurs had already revealed they were there for two dragons, although at that point they hadn't disclosed which ones. Now Peter was either going to be among those two or not. If he wasn't, there was no point making a comparable offer as the entrepreneurs would always choose the dragon they wanted. And if he was, that means he could ask for more equity. Plus, he must've suspected he was the dragon they wanted given his background. It was a safe bet, really

  • @Soniankitk95
    @Soniankitk95 Pƙed 2 lety +28

    The rejection of Tej's offer was ruthless. I felt bad for him 😔

  • @flywithusMSFS
    @flywithusMSFS Pƙed 4 lety +117

    Maaan Tej, even if i havent seen this part, hes my all time fauvorite, classy, intelligent, very good sense to great ideas. Shame

  • @shas581
    @shas581 Pƙed 5 lety +2780

    Tej got properly destroyed like nothing else in the entire series!!
    Offers 8% for all the money :Rejected
    Offers 8% then dropping down to 5% after money back: Rejected
    Offers 5% exactly the percentage entrepreneurs wanted: Rejected
    *Drinks water to stay relevant.

    • @LittleSumSum
      @LittleSumSum Pƙed 5 lety +118

      Lol I feel sorry for him

    • @amazon9982
      @amazon9982 Pƙed 5 lety +241

      How he should have handled it
      Tej "Oh right well I'm a millionare your not fuck off"

    • @jayrichardson7830
      @jayrichardson7830 Pƙed 5 lety +49

      I do feel sorry for him but Debara and Peter shit all over them. Don't know why Duncan don't come back he would get the same

    • @SuperTechno2012
      @SuperTechno2012 Pƙed 5 lety +58

      Jay Richardson Tej is richer than Deborah

    • @toysnplay7395
      @toysnplay7395 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      .

  • @natrono4372
    @natrono4372 Pƙed 5 lety +421

    Jenny popped out of the womb and said
    IM OUT

  • @ahmadsalmanmustafa5518
    @ahmadsalmanmustafa5518 Pƙed 2 lety +14

    Brutal rejection for Tej and somewhat brutal for Touker as well!

    • @PlayMoreGolf-RipOff
      @PlayMoreGolf-RipOff Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Touker i don't want your offer
      Touker: "i'm out"
      No touker you didn't need to say youre out.... I reject you!

  • @corcaighrebel
    @corcaighrebel Pƙed 4 lety +21

    Jenny: why wouldn't I be in because I'm out.

  • @will9603
    @will9603 Pƙed 5 lety +364

    Richard Branson: Hello Dragons
    Jenny: Let me stop you there, I'm out

  • @mattedmunds6649
    @mattedmunds6649 Pƙed 4 lety +1004

    Tej is richer than touka jenny and Deborah put together

    • @cellyszn20
      @cellyszn20 Pƙed 4 lety +33

      Matt Edmunds but if he doesn’t have the expertise with the product means zilch

    • @longstandingemperor5009
      @longstandingemperor5009 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Caleb Israel what expertise?

    • @3musketeersclesh
      @3musketeersclesh Pƙed 4 lety

      man like jurgen and pickford

    • @kodiw202
      @kodiw202 Pƙed 4 lety +72

      Tej Lalvani is an amazing businessman no doubt but unfortunately it's just not that simple. They'll make more money with Peter Jones owning 15% than they would Tej's 5% purely off contacts alone.

    • @akkiadkins6136
      @akkiadkins6136 Pƙed 4 lety +109

      @@cashewpistachio1826 well his parents,coming from a foreign land, worked hard and achieved to create a brand name worth millions Which requires lot of brains and balls to achieve this kinda feat , establish themselves as one of the richest in the country unlike yours who produced a waste product like you, who talks smack about entrepreneurs and is so ashamed of his own name , comes up with the names of two great Presidents.đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž

  • @flick22601
    @flick22601 Pƙed 4 lety +50

    The way they were acting toward the end of the negotiation, I'd have withdrawn any offer I had previously made. Guess that's why I'm not rich.

  • @DellaWatson-cz3mq
    @DellaWatson-cz3mq Pƙed 4 lety +44

    Narrator: jenny Campbell is confused about why the euntrapenuers are in the den today
    NO, jenny is confused about why she's in the den period

  • @bobbobnz
    @bobbobnz Pƙed 5 lety +484

    I'm out, and for that reason, I'm Jenny.

    • @halfvolley11
      @halfvolley11 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      There is rampant racism even in the business world.

    • @SuperScottForbes
      @SuperScottForbes Pƙed 4 lety

      Hilarious!! So funny......**vomiting**

  • @kennethnsb2423
    @kennethnsb2423 Pƙed 5 lety +1379

    Taj got disrespected

    • @BuckWasyaat
      @BuckWasyaat Pƙed 5 lety +128

      Yes i feel bad for him, the way he was looking at them after getting rejected

    • @TheBigKing0
      @TheBigKing0 Pƙed 5 lety +254

      He even lowered to meet their offer and they still said no lmao. Savage

    • @kenb6928
      @kenb6928 Pƙed 5 lety

      😁

    • @tuts351
      @tuts351 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      @@TheBigKing0 not Savage, pretty stupid. I can make whatever they are making for 200€ per app lol.

    • @numbo655
      @numbo655 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      Why didn't they accept Taj's offer?

  • @tizzy397
    @tizzy397 Pƙed 4 lety +29

    Jenny: why wouldn't I make an offer? Here's why, I'm out.

  • @felixfox5806
    @felixfox5806 Pƙed 4 lety

    Love you all with love peace and a gentle touch of compassion towards you and your loved ones

  • @elixandervild9553
    @elixandervild9553 Pƙed 5 lety +1410

    I haven't watched this show in about 5 years and I honestly thought Theo Pathetis had been in a traffic accident for a second.

    • @minners71
      @minners71 Pƙed 5 lety

      Why?

    • @jaicoxki
      @jaicoxki Pƙed 5 lety +29

      I believe this is a sarcastic comment.. That isn't Theo Pathetis.

    • @applebee6455
      @applebee6455 Pƙed 5 lety +59

      +minners71
      How did you not get the joke!? They guy there looks like Theo, but messed up and overweight.

    • @woodworkingphoto8083
      @woodworkingphoto8083 Pƙed 5 lety +21

      Howling

    • @gregg800
      @gregg800 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Very good

  • @MikoyAvenue
    @MikoyAvenue Pƙed 5 lety +766

    The way he rejected the other dragons was so rude ...

  • @No1SlapFIGHTFan
    @No1SlapFIGHTFan Pƙed 4 lety +10

    Touker saying he’s out after being rejected is hilarious đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł they didn’t want you in the first place.

    • @221b-Maker-Street
      @221b-Maker-Street Pƙed rokem +1

      Your schadenfreude is unbecoming.
      Let’s hope no-one ever laughs at you being rejected, eh? đŸ€”

  • @maurice9660
    @maurice9660 Pƙed 4 lety +56

    Hahaha I almost watched 50 episodes and haven‘t seen Jennifer offering an investment once 😂

    • @221b-Maker-Street
      @221b-Maker-Street Pƙed rokem

      The show isn’t really about investment. The pitchers are the product. It’s cheap telly.

  • @BalwinderSingh-gd2xu
    @BalwinderSingh-gd2xu Pƙed 5 lety +2273

    wait ... did they just sell the ability to create a shortcut to a website lol

    • @otoolepw
      @otoolepw Pƙed 5 lety +113

      Balwinder Singh yeah basically đŸ”„ÂŁ125kđŸ”„

    • @ChrisLaw84
      @ChrisLaw84 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @shutupyoutalktoomuch22
      @shutupyoutalktoomuch22 Pƙed 5 lety +303

      Yup. That was embarrassing. Don't forget to use the big datas and the block chains to make everything amazing!

    • @MrFruitgum
      @MrFruitgum Pƙed 5 lety +99

      Oh they forgot to say crypto currency as well to go along with the block chains because that sounds impressive as well:>)

    • @BalwinderSingh-gd2xu
      @BalwinderSingh-gd2xu Pƙed 5 lety +108

      Wrong. I don't think you actually know what it is. It's just PWA, using manifest.json they're able to get the phone browser (chrome/safari) prompt the user to save the link to the homescreen of the phone. This has nothing to do with bypassing anything nor is it a way to deploy malware to your phone. It's simply a shortcut to a mobile friendly website.

  • @anyexpat
    @anyexpat Pƙed 5 lety +590

    The Tough negotiation was from Peter, he got a deal at DOUBLE the equity Tej was knocked down to and the entrepreneur gave away a lot more than he wanted. Had he kept Tej in play, he would have got Peter lower. That was a good start but a poor finish and negotiations are about how you finish!

    • @rhyspaul6525
      @rhyspaul6525 Pƙed 5 lety +45

      What if he low balled from the beginning and 10% was the max not 4% đŸ€”đŸ€”

    • @JonasHamill
      @JonasHamill Pƙed 4 lety +7

      There was manipulation from both sides both trying to get involved at lowest risk to themselves. Peter didn't care about being alienated he just said that as leverage because the other guys were winning and out manipulating.

    • @gentianbrija8122
      @gentianbrija8122 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Yeah 100% with you on that
      Just keep Tej on the game and Peter would of lowert he’s offer because he wanted it a piece of Beezer
      The guys might of had a plan to give up to 10% but if they played the game properly they could of given less then 10%

    • @richkavanagh2778
      @richkavanagh2778 Pƙed 4 lety

      @TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND sales Brian is a sales man plain an simple, he went in with a goal Debra or Peter. He lost his way walking from 1-20 but still standing tall at 20

    • @richkavanagh2778
      @richkavanagh2778 Pƙed 4 lety

      @TIGERWOODSBOYFRIEND that's a shame half of them don't

  • @uwerlmi6120
    @uwerlmi6120 Pƙed 3 lety +10

    Taj: 1%
    Touka :3%
    Peter: 82% and Ill lower it to 100% after I get my money back.
    Guest: peter we have a deal.

  • @ChandanKumar962091
    @ChandanKumar962091 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I loved this guy's attitude!!! He has true entrepreneurship.

  • @Irtikus
    @Irtikus Pƙed 4 lety +384

    Don Corleone: "I'm gonna make her an offer she can't refuse."
    Jenny: I'm out

  • @user-lw8ff7fc7p
    @user-lw8ff7fc7p Pƙed 4 lety +377

    So rude.
    Tej: I’ll go from 10% to 8%, dropping to 5% in future
    Them: only wanting to give away 5%. ANYBODY willing to do 5%?
    Tej: fine I’ll do 5%
    Them: ok. I reject your offer
    Peter shouldn’t have made a deal out of principle and stuck up for tej 😐
    (But this is why I’m not a millionaire)

    • @shade5554
      @shade5554 Pƙed 3 lety +42

      Yeah, giving up ethics is the first thing you do when getting in business

    • @soulman2603
      @soulman2603 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Agreed he was totally senseless there

    • @Marsalien100
      @Marsalien100 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      @@shade5554 Ethis has nothing to do with respect. He totally disrespected the dragons. Especially Tej.

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@shade5554 Disagree with that, reputation is pretty important.

    • @originalunoriginal4055
      @originalunoriginal4055 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      You make new enemies everyday!
      It's called business!
      This isn't, wasn't and won't be the last/only time Tej experienced getting mugged off!
      I'm sure there have been many occasions been potential clients opted to open an account with Tej's competitors rather than with his company.
      So despite the sucker-punch, Peter knows it wasn't Tej's first experience and knows it won't be the last.

  • @antaylor222
    @antaylor222 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +1

    Lift doors start to open...
    Jenny, "I'm out"

  • @NassifKazan
    @NassifKazan Pƙed 4 lety +11

    Jenny: You said Wix and for that reason, I am out.

  • @charliemctruth
    @charliemctruth Pƙed 5 lety +561

    I miss Duncan Bannatyne. Every investment he said "i'm oot" to went on to make fortunes.
    The skirting board one was a classic.

    • @unique7988
      @unique7988 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      I include Theo Pathitis in that as well.

    • @djpauliegee6571
      @djpauliegee6571 Pƙed 5 lety +5

      Charlie McTruth And this would be good as it was a Scottish Glaswegian pitch đŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸœ

    • @vonteflon
      @vonteflon Pƙed 5 lety +29

      If he'd been on this panel, I've no doubt he'd have told them "your valuation of your business is ridiculous".

    • @lce_Poseidon
      @lce_Poseidon Pƙed 5 lety +11

      dragons den is no way near as good without all the other people

    • @muhammadallahs.snackbar9110
      @muhammadallahs.snackbar9110 Pƙed 5 lety

      Yes when he brought out the skirting board ladder that was a bi big hit

  • @prestonbangify
    @prestonbangify Pƙed 5 lety +530

    A room full of people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, with the possible exception of the quiet techy person who secretly knows what a complete bag of shite it all is.

    • @goetheubermensch4732
      @goetheubermensch4732 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      Or perhaps he doesn't know - he is supposed to be the brain behind it!

    • @amando96
      @amando96 Pƙed 5 lety +21

      They don't need to know, a good salesman is always in business.

    • @tonyjlorns1727
      @tonyjlorns1727 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Of course not not one knows what there talking about what bollocks

    • @prestonbangify
      @prestonbangify Pƙed 5 lety +8

      www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html

    • @musicsmithnz
      @musicsmithnz Pƙed 5 lety +4

      I am usually that guy. I sit back, usually trying to hold my tongue. I wanna set myself loose.

  • @EverthingsApple
    @EverthingsApple Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I've seen the pitch a few times before, so fast-forwarded to see the "toughest negotiation", and quite literally landed on 10:41.

  • @mar__k
    @mar__k Pƙed 3 lety +30

    *Coronavirus Lockdown*
    News: "stay home"
    Jenny: "I'm out"

  • @colmcq
    @colmcq Pƙed 5 lety +835

    isn't the point of the app store to safeguard quality of the app?

    • @ScottishRebel
      @ScottishRebel Pƙed 5 lety +126

      Have you seen the quality of some of the apps in the store there so bad and made by 10 year olds

    • @colmcq
      @colmcq Pƙed 5 lety +55

      some are, for sure, but that still means there is a degree of control. Can you imagine going straight to customer with no review? would apps be worse or better? I produce apps BTW. I wish there was a better system

    • @matthewg7835
      @matthewg7835 Pƙed 5 lety +18

      Good luck guys. You can’t do that on an iPhone. All apps what to be approved by Apple.

    • @eightbo
      @eightbo Pƙed 5 lety +13

      it's a web application. So no, apple don't need to approve it.

    • @astronemir
      @astronemir Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Except you can it runs on your browser.

  • @WiseEyes313
    @WiseEyes313 Pƙed 5 lety +576

    Tej got destroyed. That guy didn’t deserve an offer from anyone for behaving like that

    • @bluesclues132
      @bluesclues132 Pƙed 5 lety +5

      i'm lmao at that...

    • @couchgaming7879
      @couchgaming7879 Pƙed 5 lety +24

      No User 123. Power move maybe, but there's a way of pulling that move off. He did not pull it off.

    • @AC-pk4ut
      @AC-pk4ut Pƙed 5 lety +31

      @Couch Gaming, he did pull it off - he walked away with the dragon he came in for. You need that kind of ruthlessness to succeed in business, Peter Jones knew that and that's why he still made him an offer.

    • @couchgaming7879
      @couchgaming7879 Pƙed 5 lety +9

      You may be right. I still feel he could have handled it better. he didn't exactly look calm about it did he?

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial Pƙed 5 lety +9

      andrew charlton no he failed, he didn't get Peter down to 5% which was the goal of the whole thing

  • @bubbly6379
    @bubbly6379 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    I can't say I would personally invest in this. The way many 3rd party apps or app stores work is by asking you to allow unsigned apps to be installed via your device's settings menu. This opens your phone up to a multitude of risks if you're not carefully aware of everything you download. Not a lot of people are going to trust that.

  • @matthewbryant958
    @matthewbryant958 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    I’m glad Debora stuck up for Tej in a way, I’m sure Tej won’t be to upset sitting on hundreds of millions 😂

  • @madn
    @madn Pƙed 5 lety +488

    It's not even an app. It's a shortcut on your homescreen that links to a mobile responsive webpage.
    It's like a shortcut to open a mobile-friendly website.
    I can't believe non of the dragons asked them about how they got to the ridiculous amount of money that they think their company is worth.

    • @arrowstheorem1881
      @arrowstheorem1881 Pƙed 5 lety +32

      Poor Debra. She said it's Disruptive. She may have knowledge doing business but is not a tech expert.

    • @khi195
      @khi195 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      They're called progressive web apps - google it.

    • @Showmetheevidence-
      @Showmetheevidence- Pƙed 5 lety +6

      And can you imagine how f*** off users will be when they realise companies are just pushing any random shyte onto their phones.

    • @prestonbangify
      @prestonbangify Pƙed 5 lety +21

      5:16 What's a Wix website..? From the technology specialist đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @goetheubermensch4732
      @goetheubermensch4732 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      These dragons are not intellectuals or great thinkers they are only interested in making money. Average Dragon IQ 110

  • @fais6964
    @fais6964 Pƙed 5 lety +143

    He declined Tej too soon. Cards were in his hands until then to get that percentage right down.

    • @camol121
      @camol121 Pƙed 4 lety +20

      Tastor the point was that having the offer from tej gave them leverage to get better offer from Peter

    • @TomOfAllTrades91
      @TomOfAllTrades91 Pƙed 4 lety

      @Tastor Lmao calm down, no need for insults. Did his comment offend you or....?

    • @guineapig55555
      @guineapig55555 Pƙed 4 lety

      "He declined Tej too soon."
      that's just how it was edited, we don't really know how much of the negotiation was not shown

  • @AviatrixPakistan
    @AviatrixPakistan Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Peter Jones : ill make you an offer but i am greedy as hell!

  • @10secondreviews48
    @10secondreviews48 Pƙed 4 lety +18

    Jenny: no free snacks I’m out

  • @cherylbrown6447
    @cherylbrown6447 Pƙed 4 lety +126

    Producers: leaving Jenny’s decision til last thinking it adds suspense
    Jenny: I’m out
    Me: :O

    • @oo-mu1cu
      @oo-mu1cu Pƙed 2 lety

      😂😂😂😂

  • @marcomarkproductions
    @marcomarkproductions Pƙed 4 lety +244

    "Tej, i'm going to decline your offer"
    *Cold blooded*

  • @ibr3674
    @ibr3674 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    The guy won his bet.
    His bet was :
    4 dragons make offer.
    Jenny out.

  • @arijitsaha170
    @arijitsaha170 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Tej: tell me your back ground? Every episode

  • @MemerMan
    @MemerMan Pƙed 5 lety +165

    9:23 guy on the left smiling intensely
    _Narrator: Brian and Yuon are remaining poker faced_

  • @rattusnorvegicus4380
    @rattusnorvegicus4380 Pƙed 5 lety +72

    What the hell was that all about?!
    "We need to protect our shareholder`s interests at 4 or 5%......so we`ll go for Peter`s 15-down-to-10%"

    • @jammydodger1449
      @jammydodger1449 Pƙed 5 lety

      Leveraging the profits from big data at a reduced percentage of shares still enables larger profits than without big data and with more shares. At least, that's what I assume his logic was. Only time will tell for certain.

    • @andipandi5641
      @andipandi5641 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      brinkmanship..
      big part of most negotiation - altho much more usually - ruthlessly employed by the dragon's themselves..

  • @XlogicXX
    @XlogicXX Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

    That was amazing. Intense!

  • @melvyns1975
    @melvyns1975 Pƙed 4 lety +40

    Jenny.."I smell something fishy and for that reason I'm trout!"

    • @3musketeersclesh
      @3musketeersclesh Pƙed 4 lety +1

      i haddock invested but i imagined salmon like a billionaire pitchman not a broke boy

    • @jlistergaming7880
      @jlistergaming7880 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      melvyns1975 Cod you stop with all the fish puns? They’re all over the plaice!

  • @desrondick2792
    @desrondick2792 Pƙed 4 lety +76

    Jenny: I'll make you an offer
    Entrepreneur: whoaa, I'm out!!!

  • @johnintheuk00
    @johnintheuk00 Pƙed 5 lety +221

    The first picosecond (10x-12) of cosmic time. There is the emergence in stages of the four known fundamental interactions or forces - first gravity, and later the strong, weak and electromagnetic interactions; and the expansion of space itself and supercooling of the still immensely hot universe due to cosmic inflation.
    But before all that, Jenny is out.

    • @1969reverend
      @1969reverend Pƙed 5 lety +1

      john clough 😂😂😂 thanks mate ... made me Smile 😃

    • @dyrgtyggg6927
      @dyrgtyggg6927 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Wow you know GCSE level shit. Absolute genius

    • @tiketokeman9345
      @tiketokeman9345 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      dygrt yggg that was far beyond gcse

    • @lordPix3lUK
      @lordPix3lUK Pƙed 4 lety

      That's deep and for that reason, in out

    • @johnintheuk00
      @johnintheuk00 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Lewis it’s on 72 now so can you like it again please 😂😉

  • @netweed09
    @netweed09 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    3:33 Wow, Jenny's mind is literally being blown out by Touker's business talk

  • @innovativeinnovation6629
    @innovativeinnovation6629 Pƙed 2 lety

    Love the way Peter picked him off of the floor at the end.

  • @joshblack7117
    @joshblack7117 Pƙed 4 lety +230

    that was the worst display of negotiations I have ever seen...

    • @remirms2239
      @remirms2239 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      It wasn't. They actually knew they wanted Peter from the beginning.
      With putting on the pressure like that, they tried to get Peter to negotiate for a lower percentage.
      By using Tej as a bargaining chip, they tried to outplay Peter.

    • @greaser7765
      @greaser7765 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Couldnt have been that bad.

    • @tylerpifer5966
      @tylerpifer5966 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      @@remirms2239Except they immediately rejected Tej.

  • @CAFCmatt55
    @CAFCmatt55 Pƙed 5 lety +920

    None of them understanding a thing about what ‘big data’ is, just throwing buzzwords around the mix

    • @MrGavinore
      @MrGavinore Pƙed 5 lety +18

      Matt Barrie exactly they can’t just be analysing their customers data 😂😂

    • @iphoneemail9404
      @iphoneemail9404 Pƙed 5 lety +92

      Matt Barrie Exactly. why is Peter considered a tech entrepreneur- this guy obviously doesn’t know anything about technology post 2001

    • @CAFCmatt55
      @CAFCmatt55 Pƙed 5 lety +14

      Sinjin Smyth hahaha rate the sarcasm 👌

    • @golfcodeweekly2158
      @golfcodeweekly2158 Pƙed 5 lety +61

      Fuck Big Data, Talk to me about humungous data

    • @Onelife2go
      @Onelife2go Pƙed 5 lety +18

      magnificent data we're talking about. The HBRI isn't really capable of handling Big Data lol! That's so 2001! Humongous data is laughable too as it does not sit well with the market's FYI expectations. I'd say we should look into Super-Duper Data that can move businesses up the ladder swiftly.

  • @SteveGillham
    @SteveGillham Pƙed 4 lety +180

    So let me get this straight, they have built a system to by pass all the security and safety measures that a AppStores offers đŸ€” to allow you to put Apps on your mobile which haven't been security tested.

    • @mnbvcxzlkjhgfdsam90
      @mnbvcxzlkjhgfdsam90 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      You have it very clear my friend

    • @shadmansudipto7287
      @shadmansudipto7287 Pƙed 3 lety +15

      Appstore takes a huge amount of your revenue. These apps are not native so they can't do much harmful things to your device, altho the potential of getting scammed, yeah that's upto you.

    • @shadmansudipto7287
      @shadmansudipto7287 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@SteveGillham "quick buck" 30% of your revenue is not a quick buck. Altho thankfully apple recently created a program where devs who earn less than 1 million a year have to pay I think 15%. I think that was a very good move. While most devs make less than 1m, apparently 96% if I remember correctly, since they are small devs, they only make about 5% of the appstore revenue. So yeah apple isn't losing much but for small devs it's a lot.

    • @SteveGillham
      @SteveGillham Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@shadmansudipto7287
      I am not saying that Apple pricing model is fair for Devs, however that is just how Business functions and it is their Business strategy for making money; Design a secure phone, Spend large money advertising to customers, make it easy for customers to download Apps for their phone, make their AppStore easy to reach world wide and be trusted, lock people into their walled garden to keep control of the security of the phone.
      If some Dev wants more money,
      They can charge more for their Apps, but there is any number of other Devs who are happy to uncut them.
      Or switch from making Phone Apps which are low valued per unit sold, instead change to other software products with higher margins. That is the arena they have chosen to play in but they don't want to play under the same rules.
      If you suggest that by passing Applies Security to make more money demonstrates the "fast buck" approach.
      Its Apples walled Garden, you shouldn't moan about the garden that Apple created after all, they put all that money up front for everyone else to use, they should try and get their money back.

    • @shadmansudipto7287
      @shadmansudipto7287 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@SteveGillham bruh you sound like an apple fanboy. Go and read about the time they suddenly made it so that unreal engine couldn't be used in Mac for 2 weeks for some other issue, screwing over many game studios.

  • @xxmyyoursxx123
    @xxmyyoursxx123 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    This is one of the more intense episodes I’ve seen

  • @trife9602
    @trife9602 Pƙed 5 lety +141

    Dragons Den is a great marketing platform, even if they didn't get an offer it would have been a successful move

    • @operator6471
      @operator6471 Pƙed 5 lety +7

      Deborah Meaden wrote a while back about the success of the people pitching. There is a lag between filming and when the programme goes out. She described once the programme goes out the oxygen of publicity means they don't need the dragons and better offers come in.

  • @TheR3negadeMaster
    @TheR3negadeMaster Pƙed 5 lety +592

    Beezer didn’t reach anywhere since this episode. Not to mention Google already offer this. The concept is also flawed since the “app” is in fact just a home screen shortcut to a mobile friendly website. Anyone investing in this is a fool.

    • @ZelenoJabko
      @ZelenoJabko Pƙed 5 lety +4

      when was the episode aired?

    • @allmyfriendsarempegs
      @allmyfriendsarempegs Pƙed 5 lety +56

      2 days ago lol

    • @thadavid
      @thadavid Pƙed 5 lety +6

      lol i thought this was an old episode

    • @spy96
      @spy96 Pƙed 5 lety +39

      Apple does not allow any applications outside of the appstore period. iOS bypassing the appstore is breaching terms of use. Can't be done without hacking your phone or paying for a development toolkit with a monthly subscription.
      Android does not allow any applications outside of the preinstalled appstores either by default. They do allow you to go to the settings and click through 10 warnings not to do it to allow a one-time install of an app that's not on one of the app stores. So you do that again for every app.
      Why did this fail? Because their idea requires persuading the user to go to their user settings, under "advanced" go to "developer" and click "enable developer mode" and then "allow sideloading apps" and then confirming a few times that this opens you to viruses and is very unsafe each time someone wants to install an app outside the appstore.

    • @TheR3negadeMaster
      @TheR3negadeMaster Pƙed 5 lety +49

      Ze Spy Muffin Man You have got it wrong mate. It’s not an “app” which they were advertising. It’s a home screen shortcut widget which they sent to people. Once you click on the home screen widget, it takes you to a safari browser with a mobile friendly website which looks like an app but it’s not. You can do this yourself with any website now by clicking the share button (at bottom of Safari browser in middle), then clicking on “add to home screen”. Do you understand now?

  • @Ron.S.
    @Ron.S. Pƙed rokem +2

    I’d NEVER work with that guy.

  • @darashikoh8688
    @darashikoh8688 Pƙed rokem +2

    The idea is not new, however it raises a big question of security and trust. Apps downloaded through app stores are vetted and are less susceptible for malware or breach of data.

  • @EdwardMandellHouse
    @EdwardMandellHouse Pƙed 5 lety +239

    "big data" nice buzz word guy.

    • @learnsomethingneweveryday1539
      @learnsomethingneweveryday1539 Pƙed 5 lety

      @@clubclick.online2057 food on you for preserving

    • @bluesclues132
      @bluesclues132 Pƙed 5 lety

      you can copyright a hashtag? interesting...

    • @Sugabullets
      @Sugabullets Pƙed 5 lety

      Did you just use the term buzzword to sound smart? you know big data is the soil growing your digital fingerprint and your predictive behavior everytime you buy or search anything?

    • @bluesclues132
      @bluesclues132 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      this thread is some matrix sh*t..

    • @Uryendel
      @Uryendel Pƙed 5 lety

      Stellar Fervour
      That have nothing to do with the app who is destined to enterprise to design their own app and distribute to their already known customer...

  • @donalcarthy4709
    @donalcarthy4709 Pƙed 5 lety +41

    13:35 he didn't have to say he was out they already declined him lmao

    • @kkahin3557
      @kkahin3557 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Actually when you say you're out they CAN'T come back to you and say actually we'll accept your offer (as a last resort bid)

  • @threeloins6794
    @threeloins6794 Pƙed rokem

    I think he handled it brilliantly. Fair play.

  • @medhathobo
    @medhathobo Pƙed 4 lety +2

    THE POWER PLAY by the one dude.

  • @AcerDyan
    @AcerDyan Pƙed 5 lety +13

    Wow, Peter nearly lifted him up lol.

  • @TheBigKing0
    @TheBigKing0 Pƙed 5 lety +73

    LOL is this a first? They told the dragons THEYRE out.

    • @kryptoniteee
      @kryptoniteee Pƙed 5 lety +4

      TheBigKing0 no. It’s not a first. But they are scam artists.

  • @chrishatherley3531
    @chrishatherley3531 Pƙed 3 lety

    Lol, every dragons chomping at the bit and Jenny's still out :D

  • @marty9404
    @marty9404 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    From what I gather from all previous episodes, Peter seems very protective about Tej.