Stock Brakes vs $1000 Track Brakes
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🔴 Ep1 - Buying a $5000 Project Car to BEAT a Supercar
• Buying a $5000 Project...
🔴 Ep 2 - Can a $5000 Subaru BEAT a $200,000 Supercar?
• Can a $5000 Subaru BEA...
🔴 Ep 3 - Will $1000 Coilovers Help Beat a Supercar?
• Will $1000 Coilovers H...
🔴 Ep 4 - How Much Faster are Track Tyres?
• How Much FASTER are Tr...
🔴 Ep 5 - How Much Faster Is a Lighter Car?
• How Much FASTER is a L...
🔴 Ep 6 - Stock Brakes vs $1000 Track Brakes
• Stock Brakes vs $1000 ...
🔴 Ep 7 - Stock Power vs $2000 Engine Mods
• Stock Power vs $2000 E...
We’re upgrading the brakes on our car so that they stop doing this
We’re modifying this Subaru to make it faster than a Lamborghini for £15,000. So far we’ve fitted a new clutch, a set of coilovers, some semi-slick tyres and we’ve also completely stripped the interior to save weight.
Before we did anything, we went to the track to get a benchmark lap on the standard brakes
So 1:22.4 is a second and a half quicker than before (1:23.92) and leaves us with just under 6 seconds to find to beat the Lambo.
For science, we did that same braking test 5 times over to see how consistent it would be with the completely shot stock discs and pads.
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Please, after you finish the 1500 challenge, continue this series by making it as crazy as possible, and have it join UK's TimeAttack series.
Would be awesome to see and a great idea
I have a wrx wagon and I want to eventually make it into a time attack car so I am in full support of this
Oh yeah...see how long it takes for an everyday joe to catch up to a "professional race driver" with lessons and track time.
Definitely want to see this
that would be epic :D
I like how this channel shows how much faster you can make a car go WITHOUT touching the engine.
i need like a weekly update on this series. I cant wait weeks in-between videos. I'm to invested in this series.
well you obviously don't watch project binky now do you? haha
Even for a team of editors and engineers that’s a heavy task.
I want all my paychecks now. I promise I'll be back to work for a year.
@@Jonbob836 😅😅
@@Jonbob836 I was a baby when the project started now I have a year until I go to college🗿
Can't help but wonder if they actually serviced the calipers and flushed the fluid. A slab job is expensive if the calipers don't work evenly you don't get full potential.
Agreed, that fluid has to be cooked and likely old. Racing fluid and regreasing the calipers would be very helpful.
WRX 4 piston brakes are rubbish anyway.
Yes, also I would invest the little extra money in braided brake hoses and some sort of cooling for the front discs. Even if you just route some 2,5" hose it'll help a lot.
@@Gigges85 100% - rebuilding calipers, fresh high spec fluid and braided lines makes a whole world of difference
I fitted 2 piece 356mm discs and 8 pot calipers to my WRX, the best place for WRX brakes is the bin 🤣 although they did use them in gravel spec rally imprezas
I'm assuming y'all replaced the fluid. After those brakes were on fire the fluid probably isn't in good condition. Motul RBF600 is a relatively affordable upgrade.
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This needs to be a reoccurring series with different match ups. See how far you can get within budget then try to figure out how much it would actually take if you miss or how much faster you can go if you have left over budget. Either way, I love it so far!!! Also, I'd love to see what it would take to build a regular budget ICE car that could take on a performance model electric car in a full battery (pun intended) of tests, straight line, road course, slalom, braking etc...
Yeah they should just buy a clapped out 90's civic and demolish a highest spec Tesla Model S Plaid on the track 😂
Wouldn't be hard but definitely entertaining
I'm almost sad the old brakes weren't tested to failure...
but also glad the WRX chassis is still in good shape to keep doing this awesome stuff.
didnt you see the sparks coming off like all the time lol. That means theyre at their maximum. Testing it to failure doesnt give us much extra info and is stupid and dangerous.
Would've potentially needed new calipers if they did that.
@@silasmayes7954 Id say atleast new brake fluid is needed they absolutely cooked the brakes.
The okd brakes wernet tested to failure ?
@@hondamanvtec2894 They absolutely were, the two circles in the disk are iron not brakepad material lel
You need either the 06-07 WRX gearbox with the final 4.11 drive or the Forester XT gearbox with the 4.44 final drive. Right now, you have the 3.90 gearbox
For a twisty small track like that acceleration helps out alot so a higher final drive ratio is needed
@@mhamadzrar1744 that's the idea ;)
"Need" lmao
This series is so entertaining… Keep it up ☝️
This series is the best, it’s like a crossover between old Top Gear and A Car Is Born
Uploading on Driver61 then on Driven Media. What am I supposed to watch first?
Both simultaneously, maybe a phone and tablet, PC and TV? Then you just need to train your eyes like the Apache gunship pilots/gunners to be able to look at and focus on 2 things at the same time! Good luck mate!
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@@davekennedy6315 is that for real?
Do braided brake lines + high temp fluid. Makes a big difference for track driving, you get better feeling through the pedal, and less fade with repeated laps.
Yes
You are absolutely correct, but they do a single lap at a time anyway.
Even after you guys finish this series, I really hope you keep incrementally-modding the subie and seeing how much faster it gets! Id love to see several seasons of this, and bolt-on power mods etc. Like starting with a Cobb up-pipe, turbo-back exhaust & Acessport tuner etc. Also Im curious if front and rear strut-tower braces would make any noticeable difference. (Ive heard they do, especially when youve already done coilovers, sways bars, tires etc)
At some point you can't keep bolting on/off, you have to make a build design and change a bunch of things for that power level, so for example if they targeted 400hp, the transmission would have to be swapped with an STI, which requires a new drive-line, wheel hubs, and thus brakes/rotors, so everything they just bought goes in the bin. I also like the idea you have, but in reality it's difficult to chain more than 4 episodes together like this for CZcams. I wanted to make a CZcams series like this but for MPG, and the best i could chain together was 8 episodes
Common guys. You should have done the anti-roll bars in a seperate video. They make a massive difference to handling.
I can hardly wait for this series to go on. Make it fast cmon
I'm loving this series, and actually learning. Even if we never do these mods ourselves, i think it will improve our knowledge and understanding of track racing, and increase our enjoyment when watching track racing. I have been surprised by some of the results and even even the mods the guys are making. The anti roll bars being a case in point. You want the cae to stay flat, but you also want weight transfer to the outside tires through corners. There's a real science to it.
12min front toe in?
Wouldn't a little toe out front and maybe teeny bit in or 0 rear not be more applicable?
No appropriate brake fluid changed?
0:48 that's why they have to use the bright flashing colours or they wouldn't understand
I just loveeee this series! Thank you, thank you. 😊
Great content! Been waiting for this series!
Love this series! Keep it going! More of this please 👍👍
God knows how many times I've checked your channel for this video in the last week!!! I love you guys. Keep it up! All the way from Nigeria.
This is bonkers! Keep this style of content coming, please! I've been watching every episode on the day of and loving every second of it.
Love you guys!
we need a T-shirt that says "smells like danger"
And another one that says "smells like fear"
Just don't wear it in an airport... xD
The roll center kit actually increases camber gain under bump. By lowering the control arm relative to the wheel center the ball joint will move more vertically as the wheel travels up while the upper part of the knuckle travels along the angle of the strut. So the top of the knuckle moves inboard as it travels up while the bottom of the knuckle stays more nuetral with the net difference being an increase in camber. This is good because the body roll directly decreases tire camber relative to the ground. In a typical mcpherson strut application peak camber gain in the front relative to the body will be 0.25 to 0.3 degrees of camber gain per 1 degree of body roll. This translates to 0.75-0.7 degrees of camber loss relative to the road. So both of the changes made suspension wise will improve the steady state cornering tire contact patch as the amount of body roll and thus bump travel while cornering is reduced as well as the camber loss relative to the ground is reduced.
Love this. Subscribed !
Just found this channel, and binged this series. Keep up the great work. You definitely have 1 more subscriber in me
loving this series!
Love this series so much, please do more:)
this is great! love watching this channel
This is an absolute brilliant series one of the best I’ve seen on CZcams (maybe bias as I am a massive Subaru fan) 😂 can’t wait to see more keep it up please lads
My new fav YT series....well done guys!
Once you've done the £15,000 of upgrades, I'd like to see if you could find a £15k car that was faster or could equal it.
Currently my favourite series on CZcams, Great job!
Never seen this channel, but love this kind of content! Miss pottering about with a car since going EV.
Love this series!
Been waiting for this!
great video as always!
As the owner of a 3-pedal, 05 Saab 92x aero (Saabaru), that I want to make great for autoX & spirited driving.. This has literally been my favorite 'build series' ever. I cannot wait for new episodes to come out. There isnt anyone else I know of doing the mods i plan on, and comparing lap times after each step🙌. So far my car only has a Cobb stg2 turbo-back exhaust & tune, but desperately needs coilovers (BC or Pedders), bigger brakes (from a v1 CTSV), sway bars/end links, 17" rims (rota titans), tires, & improved cooling & oiling systems.. along with some homemade strut-tower/chassis braces. Only after all that Ill look at getting an up-pipe, header, & other minor mods for better low-end power & response. Only if I had moneys😂
As another Saabaru owner, I’d look into getting that up pipe replaced first. They’re catalyzed on 02-05 wrxs (and our cars) and are known to fail and send bits into the turbo. After that though it’s whatever you want to do.
@@Fhwgads11 I wonder if thats what killed the turbo on my 04, lol
Looks really good, one of the best video series I've ever seen, make sure you don't blow the engine though next time.
I was so looking forward to the new episode!
This is one of the best series on CZcams. Please keep it up!
This Is something Just wonderful. The more i see of You, the more i absolutely love You guys, especially this days when i cannot drive my car. Thank You and i really Hope to see another episodi of this ahahah
this series is elite give us more!!!!
im really enjoying this build, its really cool that youre doing this with an estate, im also amazed how light it is too, it almost weighs as little as an ND MX-5!
This series is so much fun! Can't wait for the next one :)
You didn’t say why you picked budget brakes, but it’s always rotational inertia. Bigger brakes means more mass to spin up and slow down.
not always, after market BBK's have bigger discs, but in most cases they are lighter than the stock discs, because they have aluminium center ;)
Just discovered your channel. Great stuff guys.
Love these episodes guys.
As others have said, very surprised you didn't change to braided steel brake lines and flush/replace the brake fluid with something like a Motul RBF or similar. The lines and fluid can be had for ~£125 and make a huge difference to brake feel and responsiveness.
Enjoying the series though, looking forward to more!
I’m really enjoying this series. Very interesting.
Absolutely thrilled when I saw the new episode! Can’t wait for more!
So excited when I saw this new video!
I never was so early, I'm excited :D
good stuff you'll grow quickly
This is just too good. Makes me want to buy that car after the series is done! Haha 😂
I'm calling it now: they aren't going to beat the Lambo time if they keep it road legal. There's no reasonable amount of power gain that is going to make those six seconds, SPECIALLY in a twisty little track like that.
But it's Ok. Because this vid series is being absolutely phenomenal!
I agree. They would have to add a considerable amount of power to start. I also think a different transmission is necessary to have all that power useable for the track they're using. If their budget was 50 grand, I think they could put a smack down on the Lamborghini
@@AndromedatheBasshead Fair enough, but if the budget was 50 grand they surely will have chosen a much quicker base car as well.
Idk man, that subaru awd really hooks.
It’s not the car, it’s the driver.
@@DreamcastSoup The lap on the Murcielago was set by Scott. It's the same driver.
awesome video series
Awesome channel! Finally YT recommended coming in ‘clutch’ :)
Good work guys :)
Fun series. I've literally just finished doing almost exactly the same on my bugeye wagon with sway bar and brakes
Hell yeah! I have a 5spd 05 Saab 92x aero (saabaru) that i want to mod for great handling/ autox. So far it only has a Cobb stg2 turbo-back exhaust & tune. But it desperately needs full suspension, bigger brakes, rims/tires, & cooling/oiling upgrades.
@@flexinclouds I also just got extremely light volk wheels and they changed the feel of the car tremendously. The stiff suspension and stiff sway bar also made a huge difference!
I could watch these videos all day! Please make another series of this with another car!
This is my favorite series on CZcams right now!
I love this series
Welp. Tomorrow I have an important exam and I was studying till late. It was nice that you posted, i can enjoy my break time. Thanks
You guys should have done a brake cooling kit, they have kits that direct cool air to the rotors by using air intakes under the car or from the front bumper im sure it would help with the fading
appreciate the effort to make some great top gear style entertainment
racing set up subarus usually go for more camber, also flush the brakes or show it if you did so
YEEES I'm always excited when a new episode comes out!!
So happy with your brake choice, and using the extra cash for suspension. Literally best way to use the money. Who knows, with what’s left maybe you can do a used LS swap if you can sell the old engine XD
Best show on YT I can't get enough, PS get Scotts dad to loan you a motor 😂😂
In a lot of cars, I've found that the limit for braking is more the tyres than the brakes themselves. For sure better brakes will work better under repeated use though.
Front suspension geometry is critical to get the tyres planted on the road for best traction to stop quickly.
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"You're a racing driver....deal with it!" 😁🤣👍💪💯
Really great video... best of "garagistas" (and we all know the real story of the garagistas) 💪👍
FINALLY!!! Another video!
After the grand finale race, it'd be interesting to see what it would look like with an actual interior. As in, actually turn it into a van (remove sharp edges, put in some very lightweight carpet/flooring, a passenger seat...).
Been daily-driving some Godspeed discs on my i30N for nearly 2 years now, their quality is amazing for the price and with some good pads the best budget-upgrade you can get IMO
Still 8s to find...Gonna be difficult boys ! Keep the great work !
Would it help if the car was converted into an RWD configuration, removing unwanted central diff & related parts?
Down the road, maybe consider some polymere bushings. They won't give you a second (i believe) but make the car feel much better. And good feeling is an advantage
If you've taken a significant amount of weight out of the car it's always going to feel significantly stiffer because the springs and dampers are dealing with less mass and less energy. It's basically the opposite of how a car feels more wallowy when you've got a bunch of heavy junk in the boot.
They run into bad weather to make it a cliff hanger every episode
Maaaate! These titles though!!!!! I don't have time, but I cannot not click this! I simply cannot! Brilliant work as always chaps!
You'd go even faster if your suspension had any droop travel 👍
you might need to add the metal plate inside back where the ECU management is on the passenger seat
as well as maybe 2 bucket seats with straps as who knows you might fall off the seat
loving the series but seriously can you switch to 60fps??
I'll only ever watch these kind of videos, because if I ever get into tinkering with my own car, there'll be no end to it. I'll spend more time fiddling with it than ever driving it. So thanks for filling that void.
Did you replace the brake fluid with high temperature fluid?
Saying it now this Channel is going to be big
Now that its handling is improved, will you try to reenact the coin trick Sly Stallone and cgi did in the movie “Driven” (2001)?
Common for those front calipers to get sticky at higher mileage, but surprised you didn't change the brake lines for braided ones and change the fluid.
in the wet you can just disconnect or remove the front anti roll bar. it will help turn in, reduce understeer, improve traction out of the corner and possibly even induce a bit of oversteer.
AWD and FWD cars do not like big fat anti roll bars.
Make sure to add a heavy duty brake fluid. Motul RBF 660 is really stiff. Has my race 4 pots feeling like a rock under my foot. 0-100% brake force is like 10cm of travel.
need to add a mini cage to stiffen the body up a bit, she'll have plenty of flex. maybe some upper sway bars
This is awesome! I love fast and go fast! I just hate stopping once im moving! I have a E63 AMG but I keep my speed on Project Cars with my sims because I don’t want to track this car. Soon tho! I’ll find a flickable toy for the track.
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I WANT THIS SERIES VIDEO EVERY DAY
More active camber=more high speed grip and it helps you run lower camber values in low speed whilst keeping the high camber in high speed, that's why we usually run high rollcenters at least in single seater (helps to get some rotation on power too)
i would slap on 2012 ish sti brakes on, they are pretty cheap used and the break really really well, got me from 260 kmh to 0 kmh real quick a couple of times
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