r/Maliciouscompliance I Dug Up My Dad's Corpse to Pay a Water Bill
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Company needs to speak to my dead dad
5:35 Sent my dads remains to the phone company
6:29 Don't tell anyone you're leaving
13:17 Company parking spot problems
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
OP: “My father is dead.”
Company: “We don’t care. His death certificate isn’t good enough. We still need to speak to him in person.”
OP: “Okay. (Gets out ouija board) Father, can you hear me? We need you to give them your signature!”
Company: “😱😱😱”
Do the people from the water company not know how death works?
Sounds like a way to continue bilking the family.
Unfortunately it's not uncommon. Here in the UK a grieving pregnant widower wanted to cancel the mobile phone of her late military husband. She provided his death certificate, letters from the british army without success. The mobile service provider said only the her husband can make change!
After raising further up, she was told to pay for the cancellation fee & the remaining months of the contract.
That created a whole public uproar !
That's not how you contact the dead but I can't hide hoe amused I am with it.
@@Kierawolf
I'm legitimately curious as to what you mean?
Well, the water company OBVIOUSLY think that watering the dead will bring them back - like a dead plant! 😂😂😂
Fun fact: I'm a USPS employee. Shipping human remains, at least in the case of cremated remains, is perfectly legal, but you do have to follow certain regulations. Yes, I've delivered peoples cremated relatives. And yes, it's a strange experience. It's fairly common when someone dies out of state or something for the cremated remains to be shipped home, and as far as I know the postal service is the only shipping company that'll deliver them.
That's very interesting to know
I just recently had to do this with a friend's cremated remains. He died in Indiana but his family lives in South Carolina, so I had to ship them. It had to be priority mail express and have bright orange stickers that said what was inside, but other than that they treated it like any other package being sent at the post office with just a few extra questions. He got there the next day.
@@reaghank8602 yeah, generally speaking they're just packages from the USPSs perspective, but I always try to show a little respect by having them ride up front with me instead of... In the back with a bag of dog food from Amazon stacked on top of them.
Wow! That is really interesting!
Yep! That's how we got my grandma! Unfortunately she's still in the bos
Anyone else desperately want to see the interpretive dance of "My dad is dead, please shut off the water"?
Yeah, that section amused me greatly.
Lmfaooo
Yes I do
*Pretends to shut off valve, while twerking.*
YESSSSS
Story 1: Imaging being this stubborn. Like, dead people can't pay, y'know. I would be surprised if they still held that policy after what OP did, because that's just foul.
Of course they do, what these weasels are trying to do (illegaly) is pass the debt on to the next of kin, "can't close the account because he can't come here to do it himself, YOU gotta pay the bill for him asshole" - is what these mongrels are all about.
It's like they were toddlers who didn't know what death was.
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Well, on the other hand, there still a lot of "milking" done with just the name of the deceased individuals, especially in form of "estates"
( E.G. "Tolkien Estate" ).
So, yeah, at least in this regard dead-people can still pay (the bills).
(( Aye, I got inspired, so this will be yet another topical long-post. ))
Alongside of course the name of the dead can especially used to hamper creativity / expressive freedom:
One good example was the copyright-holders (who-ever-they-are-I-do not-know) of "Samuel Beckett"-productions cancelling the play of "Waiting For Godot" barely just before the grand-opening:
Reason being that the actors were women.
The absurdity here is that the copyright-holders / "overseers" had already read through all the production-documentations,
therefore were already fully were of the casting!
"Naturally" these copyright-holders didn't agree on any compromises to allow women play the roles.
So the troupe decided to cash on this:
They turned this whole farse into the play itself!
Sure, they missed their original grand-opening-night.
But they for the most they could just use everything they already had:
Most geniously they retrofit(?) their advertisement-posters by smearing / crossing-over everything in relation Godot
( the names "Godot" and "Samuel Beckett" ).
And the name of the play was now just called "Waiting", in English that is:
Because this happened in March 2018 in Finland, the play was called "Odottaessa"
( in Finnish, this play is also originally known as "Huomenna hän tulee (Tomorrow He Comes)" which also was crossed-over on the poster ).
The theatre / troupe-group in question is "Turun Ylioppilasteatteri"
("The University Student Theatre of Turku / Turku Student Theatre", not official English-name).
Unfortunately there are no official English publications of this event either.
But the translation tools work quite well with Finnish-language nowadays.
So you can find various articles, and especially the blog / journal-entries of this event with this slogan:
"Vaihtakaa näyttelijät miehiin tai esitys perutaan."
( Change / Switch the actor into men or this play will be cancelled. )
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I don’t know if it’s illegal to send human remains in the mail because I sent my father’s ashes to his sister to be interred in Oregon (I’m in California) and they knew what I was sending. The FBI might’ve given the aunt a file because of the bank freaking out, but as a hippie, it’s probably one of her proudest moments and I respect her for that.
I dont kno if sending remans is illegal but it sure is illegal to send live ppl in the mail.
Of course things only become illegal bc too many ppl were doing it. Welp, if the mail is cheaper than a bus ticket...
They actually have boxes on the USPS website that are used for and labeled “Cremated Remains.” So it’s ok to send the remains through the mail you just have to use the correct packaging. They are actually shipped more than you think.
@@christineatchley7303 this is correct. Only usps can and it has to be in the labeled packaging
The comment chain for that commenter had an explanation as to why they flipped out. Essentially, the bank opened the mail, the bag fell out and they activated their Anthrax response, which calls in hazmat teams and the FBI to investigate. That all came in the wake of the Anthrax terrorist attacks where someone mailed Anthrax to several public officials and banks.
@@KibuFox Aha, that's what I suspected might be the case.
😂 This. Is. Epic. He wore a goth suit and brought a ouija board. Can't. Breathe.
same
I think Op is a she but yeah that was awesome
Old story but I’m glad he finally covered it.
When I was. A young boy. My father. Took me into the city. To see a marching band.
Needs to be re-enacted by Noel Fielding a la IT Crowd
So the first story kinda reminded me of a story about my mum.
My mum had schizophrenia, & had been on a drug furniture for over 20 years, she was in the hospital with a chest infection and her dr, without asking her, me or talking to a mental health professional of any kind decided to take her off her meds.
Now these are the kind of meds you can't just stop, like they have to be weened off and on to something else in a mental health setting.
So you can imagine the state she was in after 2 weeks, during this the gas company we had were badgering me over an overpayment, that's right, we'd over paid and they wanted to speak to the account holder, who they still had listed as my dad, who'd died the year prior.
I took in death certificates, and other legal papers no dice, then they said they could speak to the next of kin, which was my mum, who at the time... was mute, and in acute psychosis.
So I told them sure, if tou want to talk to her it will have to be in person, because she's mute, and can't come to the phone. (This was 10 years ago and zoom wasn't really a thing)
So I set up the meeting, and in walks the adviser, who takes one look at my mum, who's about 4 stone at this point ( about 50lbs)
Looks shocked and hands me a cheque and promptly leaves.
The cheque that couldn't be paid out, because it was so large it didn't fit the banks cheque machine had to be resent... this time... in my name.
Never got another phonecall from them.
Op enters the company office in full Shakespeare regalia, whips out their dad’s skull, and turns to the employees:
“Alas, poor Father. I wish to close his account!”
As much as I hope to never have to do that, at the same time I kind of wish I had the chance to do that! OP definitely had the right attitude there. Shame some companies are utterly ludicrious.
I don’t know why but the whole “bring someone’s remains to the office” type of stories are comedy of the macabre flavor, the favorite of my hot topic loving edge lord of a personality.
Water company: “Dad needs to be here.”
OP: “Holy spirit activate”
thankyou for the belly laugh of 5 mins....i really needed that! lol
More like "Daddy spirit activate!"
@@samidarkin in the name of the father...
Went through similar stuff with my mother-in-law!!! We were staying with her, to help out. After she passed, it was a constant shitshow! Call after call "We need to speak with her asap. I don't care she's dead, we still need to see her in person." We told them either buy a Quiji board, or we gave them the address to the cemetery.
I can totally see OP actually going in to do the interpretive dance, smoke signal, etc in person at the water company like the ouija board and I want this person in my life 😆
Me too
The aunt with the new fbi likely was given the equivalent of a slap on the wrist by the agent who was definitely laughing hysterically after the chemical composition showed it was wood ash
“You can’t close the account cuz your name isn’t on it.”
“Ok then who’s gonna pay it?”
“You…?”
“But you said my name isn’t on the account, so that’s not happening.”
Story 1 : same thing happened to my friends dad.. his mom passed in 1968 ..1988 the bank called him asking to speak to his mother he replies with :" well of course you can if you dig her up and talk to her" they never called again..
🤗
Story 1: I will never understand why some companies are sticklers for this particular policy when they're presented with proof of the account holder's death. They need to reevaluate that. It's just stupid.
They are likely had been scammed by people forging their death certificates before.
not just stupid but it feels like extortion.
If there's anything I've learned from malicious compliance it's the fact that people don't understand the end results of a situation will be worse than what they would be if they were a decent person to begin with
The fact that they would even bring up the fee after the ouija board thing is both hilarious and infuriating.
Story 1: I had the same problem with the gas company, both people on the bill have passed away but the only way to close the account is for them to give permission which obviously they can't do. It's been 10 years since I talked to somebody from the gas company last, if their policies are still the same then I might have to go digging~ see how they like them apples......
The first story is very similar to what happened with my family 8 years ago. My great grandfather had passed, so my grandfather and grandaunts started taking care of cancelling every contract in his name. Most companies requested for a death certificate as a justification and that was that, except for the phone company. At that time, this phone company had many cases (from contract breaks on their behalf to scamming) showing up in the news and were going bankrupt sooner or later so the employees started acting very aggressive towards the remaining clients to prevent them from leaving and offering "good deals." Unfortunately this was our case, and no matter what proof we gave, they'd kept declining cancelling contract. So, much like OP, we stopped paying for that bill hoping that the service would be eventually cut off. NOPE. The phone company kept sending threatning letters saying that if we wouldn't pay then it would be taken to court. This went on for almost a year. Welp, my grandfather and aunts did just that and showed all the paper evidence plus phone records demanded by court. The company was sued for refusal of canceling contract, harassment AND also for the heavy emotional damage that we were having to deal with. The judge was 100% on our side and the company was ordered to terminate contract then and there, pay a compensation for emotional and moral damages (to my grandfather and each of my aunts) as well as pay for our lawyer's fees due to all the inconvenience they made us go through.
Overall, just a bunch of jerks who wasted time, resources and money for all involved parties for the marvelous outcome of nothing but more bad reputation for the company. Needless to say that a few months later it ceased to exist.
Why was the company sued for harassment?
@@donnyshields4450 they refused to cancel the contract when the requested evidence was given and kept on demading for the bills to be payed, aka not just through letters but also constantly calling my grandfather and aunts multiple times a week. Needless to say that said calls had very aggressive and rude people on the other side
I would totally bring the box with my dad's ashes in person in it with me if I'd encountered the same issues. I would probably put a "hi my name is _______" name tag on the box to go with the official paperwork side that's attached. I even went so far when I was preparing to close accounts as to ask his partner (who has him displayed on her mantle) if I could "borrow Dad" if there was an issue. She thought it was hilarious and was like sure.
That first story kind of reminded me off when (at that time) my recently decesed grandfather got a package and we tried to collect it at the post office. Problem was that they required him to be there to pick it up himself and when I pointed it out that he was recently decesed, their answer was "Then why would they send a package out if he is dead?" And I was a jerk 17 year old at the time so I replied with "What do you want? Dig up his corpse so we can get his stuff?" We never got to recive that package despite my dad trying to explain to the postal company that my grandfather was dead.
Wow.
So sorry they treated you that way! Absolutely no respect whatsoever.
People who stay in a job too long become corporate automatons and often lose the ability of critical thinking. This leads to them saying or doing things that would make them come off as apathetic at best or fired/sued at worst.
I need to add that the postal service in the country I live in is very notorious for being very tough with identification. I've half- joked that the banks have less security then the post but in a way it's true. My mom didn't get her package once because her signature didn't 100% match the one on her id-card. And I didn't get my stuff because the company who sent it misspelled my name.
If I were in such a similar situation, my uncle and mom would have to hold me back from jumping the counter and scrapping with them.
I don't think it was comedic timing, I think your dad's ghost legitimately decided to take a break from the afterlife help you out a bit.
As Legal Eagle says: The only thing better than doing the right thing is having a paper trail of doing the right thing.
My aunt got sick and tired of getting phone calls from creditors and scammers for her father/my grandfather and she started just putting the phone to his urn and left it until they hung up.
My great-aunt's widower has been dead over a year now and his land-line has been left off the hook continuously since then because they're ALWAYS calling and refuse to accept 'he's dead this well is dry.' Mom can't even hang the phone up and call out most of the time because it rings as soon as it's hung back up.
Story 1 reminds me of our current issue with my mums electricity supplier. I work for an electricity retailer in Australia and my father passed away back in March. 4 phone calls to their electricity supplier, my employer, and each time over an hour on the phone, sometimes close to 2, to change the account from my fathers name to my mother, and each and every time they wanted to "speak to the account holder to confirm the change". I am listed on the account to do changes, but no they wanted to talk to my deceased father to confirm the change.
Last time I called I asked if they had an Ouija board or did they want me to send them one so they could contact him directly.... Yep the account is still in his name, but is now sent to my mailing address so mum does not get upset each and every time an electricity bill is sent to her.
Man, I feel like this is something that would happen in New Orleans with the goth stuff, but that first story is pure gold!
I can't the first story has me rolling in laughter 🤣. I'm taking notes in case I ever find myself in a position like this!.
To be honest, just _owning_ that Ouija board is enough to cause supernatural shenanigans.
I'm not convinced of that.
And yet you can buy them in toy stores.
Fun story, actually. When I was 19 my sister and I both had Christmas seasonal jobs at Toys R Us. Someone actually came in, in the middle of Christmas shopping rush, asking where to find the ouija boards and while being shown to the board game section informed my sister and one of our coworkers that he wanted to contact H*tler to verify a few historical facts. Coworker's response was "Okay well we do ask that you please wait until you've left the property to do that..."
I just imagine the dude reviving the letter from the aunt like “oh what’s this?” *opens letter* “dear phone company blah blah blah take it up with him yourself” *looks at bag of ash* “what do they mea…..oh god”
Story 1 I had a similar thing happen with the gas company when my grandmother died. We sold the house and tried to get the gas turned off but they refused because "the account owner had to make the shutoff". Even after telling them she's dead they refused. So we just stopped paying it. 1 year later we keep getting collections notices but aren't gonna pay them. What are they gonna do garnish money from my grandmothers now deleted bank account? Just goes to show companies will do anything to keep sucking your wallet dry
Story 2: Why do bonuses cause trouble somewhere, like someone deserves a bonus, but someone higher up goes BS lengths to deny it. Like, if they deserve a bonus, give them it!
Greed
the stupidity of greed, where you will spend thousands of dollars to hold onto a penny
@@abiean222 1000% facts..
The water story reminds me of something that happened during my divorce. We were cordial and didn't fight, just wanted it over with, so in that aspect it was fine. But one thing that didn't get resolved was our formerly joint bank account. I had already gotten my own separate bank account and taken my name off the joint when we separated (there's a waiting period between filing divorce, and the court actually allowing it, in case you change your minds.) For some reason she opted to open a new account and clean out the old one, leaving it at a zero balance. But she never actually closed it for some reason, nor did she update her contact info. Now this bank penalized you for having a zero balance, something like $30 for every full month the account sat empty or something like that. I was no longer thinking about it, and it wasn't until I got a call from the bank's collections department that I realized the account was still open and had a negative balance of like -$300. I explained that we're no longer married, my name isn't on the account, she doesn't live here, and I don't know where she moved to. And to their credit, the bank stopped calling or mailing stuff to me. Not sure how that all panned out, but basically my ex wife got taken to collections over it because she didn't close the account, and refused to respond to my voice messages.
OP: "I would like you to tell the difference between these two pictures."
**Pictures shows a normal dude, and a corpse**
Water Company: "They are the same picture."
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There was an update for the last one - apparently the guy who said OP could park there didn't actually get permission for that and got repreimanded.
To be fair they asked to see the account holder and she brought the account holder.
well actually if the remains were in a bag, she brought the account holder holder...
That guy in the story was 100% fired lmao
Same thing happened with my uncles bank account. They couldn't close I without him there. My aunt (his sister) said, "so should I bring his ashes?" The worker had no anwser and just looked around to pass her off to a higher up. After being passed to higher up to higher up. The final higher up finally said a death certificate would suffice.
*plonks a skull down on a government official's desk* "Here's my dad, he's not the most talkative of people, but he'd like to cancel his account. Also he's authorized me to sign as POA since he's not up to much writing these days."
😂😂
If the absolutely have to talk to him remember a homeless necromancer may be willing to raise dead for food.
@@Kierawolf all I have is exposure, will that work?
@@itsybitsybosmer *chuckles* it might in their case xd
In that first story, we have a definite winner. I hope somebody filmed that. And another way he could have gone is two dress up as Paul Bearer from the road WWF days. Oh my undertaker.!
Update to last story: He was told that the security guard isn't allowed to give out parking spots. He lost his spot. A lie was told about the security guard being chewed out just to appease the higher ups.
We went through the same thing when my grandmother died. the water company and ADT security would NOT cancel her service and would not let my mom cancel in spite of being the executor of the estate, so they just didn't get paid and they turned my dead grandmother over to collections.
Collections was the goal. They can write off the amount, inflated with “fees” against profits to reduce their taxes.
Lol I do something similar to story 1 for people I know. Idk why these places like to pull this stunt, but asking for dead people to visit is apparently the norm. Anyways, I was at a flea market and a stall was selling junk from a storage unit. Including a pretty dark green urn. My aunt had recently lost her mother but couldnt afford anything other than the box the funeral home provided so I got the urn to put her in it. Unfortunately, when I popped it open it was already occupied. I thought it was just heavy, good quality porcelain. But nah, I bought human remains for $1. I tried using the tag to track down the family but it was a bust. Just dumping the ashes seemed mean. So now I have a random urn that I've named Terry and if someone has an issue where they're trying to mourn and a company's being unreasonable I bundle Terry up, put them in the little car seat I made for them, and we take a trip to someone's office to dramatically plop them on a desk and I wail about how cruel the company is for making me do this in a time of grief. Every time I've done it suddenly the bosses, who were always too busy to talk to the person I was doing this for, magically have the time to handle the situation and are willing to waive any postmortum fees. I've been doing this for the past 7 years and I worry someone's eventually going to recognize me so sometimes I just loan Terry out for a day. End result's the same 🤷♀️
You are a hero!
My grandma died about a year and a half ago and we’re still getting phone calls asking for her. I don’t answer the landline anymore. I’ve been tempted to give them the cemetery phone number
Same deal with my great-aunt's widower. He's been dead about the same amount of time and the land line is constantly being called so the phone is left off the hook. Often you can't even hang it up to call out because the people won't stop continuously redialing and you can't get it hung up and picked back up before it rings again before you can call out.
i gave the cemetery address and plot number to the gas company as mums new address
they squeaked "but thats a cemetery" i said yes that is where civalized people place the dead, what do you do to them?
My much loved mother died, my father was suffering badly with dementia. I had sent death certificates to all the relevant offices including the new poll tax, she had the misfortune to actually live for 2 weeks into it, the, shall we say, over enthusiastic new office phoned my dad and said he would be put into prison for none payment, I had paid for my dad so it was just my mums and she was adamant that she would not pay Thatchers anti family tax. I told as many members of my family as I could with the name and number of the person threatening a 75 year old man who had just lost his wife. We threatened them with law, police included, press and all the media we could think of. Dad deteriorated after the threat of prison, they were aware of his condition. The last one to get in touch with the designated moron was me. About an hour later, I did feel sorry for her but it only lasted a moment. I soon got over it. That tax was breaking up families, but it was policy to f people over as Thatcher sold our factories order books. She sold the working/ middle class down the river. I am sure and certain that when she died she was delivered straight into the arms of Satan, they deserve each other. ❤
That first post reminds me of two phones calls I had to deal with after my grandma's passing.
Person on phone: Can I speak to Mrs. Smith?
Me: I'm afraid you can't. She passed away recently.
Person on phone: I'm sorry for your loss. Would next week be a better time?
Me: She's dead, so no?
Person on phone: Oh okay, good bye.
About a week later.
Person on phone: I'm calling to talk to Mrs. Smith?
Me: Sorry, she passed away awhile ago.
Person on phone: I'm sorry to hear that. Could I try to talk to her next week?
Me: She'll still be dead, but you can try.
Person on phone: ... -hangs up-
Like I get being on autopilot, but yikes! How can you ask to talk to a dead person next week? I'm pretty sure the answer isn't going to change.
I had a slightly similar experience when I was in my early teens. I was the "accountant" for a small youth club. We did small jobs in our neighborhood, and I'd opened a bank account to deposit the money in. Then came the day when we wanted to withdraw some money to buy something(a tent, I believe). Went to the bank, who said "you're under 18, you're not allowed any money".
So I asked "Ok, so how do I get it?"
The bank replied "you need to get a signed certificate of permission from the one who opened the account".
Me, "Well, hand over the papers, I'm the one who opened the account".
Bank said "Um, you can't do that. You need to be over 18 to sign a certificate of permission".
So while not dead, I was equally unavailable to do anything with the account.
Me "so now what? is that money going to sit until I'm old enough? My club members will be really disappointed. Are you really allowed to keep customers from withdrawing money from their own accounts?"
(To clarify, when I opened the account, I'd clearly said it was for the club. It had the club name written into the account name. But I was the only person associated with it. So "my account" even if it wasn't my money.)
An uncomfortable silence followed, while I stayed like glued in front of the teller. After some whispered conversation, I was escorted into the bank, to see the Director.
He somehow made it feel like it was all my fault, but grudgingly allowed me access to the account from there on.
Obviously someone at the bank had messed up when it let a minor open an account, and was now trying to find the least embarrassing way to deal with it.
I looked at the history of the account years later when I closed it. and there's no mention of a certificate of permission. But several withdrawals of a minor. I wonder how they tweaked the system to alllow that?
Only USPS centers are allowed to send cremated remains. And it has to be clearly labeled as such. Found that out when I went to Fedex to mail my parents to my sister lol
Imagine, if somebody equally fed up with the situation caught on and decided that dropping a pen would be a good idea.
That would be awesome!!
@@robertheinrich2994 Would this be a Pyramid scheme, and if so, which pyramid? This whole situation Sphinx.
@@johannesnoneoftheabove9957 I don't know, but I get those scam-replies quite frequently, so no clue what this guy is about.
@@robertheinrich2994 Reference to tombs, the afterlife and ancient mysteries; and the water company's request for contact from beyond the grave.
@@johannesnoneoftheabove9957 they usually don't respond directly to requests. and I'm not interested in getting in contact with them 😀
why do companies even have a policy to speak with someone dead or alive??
Probably so they can keep charging the account
@@emmerzleigh5540 idk why they'd try to because you can't get money from a dead guy for very long
I had a similar event on my life. After my father died, we were repeatedly asked to have him sign a cancellation for something (I think his electricity bill). We sent them the death certificate repeatedly but kept getting standardized emails that he needs to sign or we need to prove that we are our father‘s legal custodian. At that time, my brother was doing all the post-death work, but since I have a PhD, I took over for the extra impact (sadly, this works). I wrote a very formally worded letter that by all scientific standards, a dead person in the state of decomposition does not have the muscle power and control to hold a pen and sign their own name and that this matter is further complicated by the fact that my father was cremated which leaves not even the required bone structure reasonably intact. I went into further detail about how bones are ground down if still intact and added to the ashes. I then asked them, how he was supposed to sign anything, but that they were free to take it up with the man himself. I gave them the cemetery address and grave location. Once i was done with the rant, I asked them whether they found it in any way ethically acceptable that they kept reminding us of our loss in such an extremely stupid manner and that I would demand compensation for emotional damage of this farce was to continue. I signed it with my full title (I’m a biologist) and sent them the letter.
They replied to me - not with an apology - but with the confirmation that the account was closed, adding that they did not see how they caused us any discomfort with their repeated letter (I’m sure to not have admitted anything legally). I hope they framed that fucking letter as a reminder that sending our standard letters can be very very awkward.
of = if… cellphone, autocorrect. You know the drill.
Its a great day for Maliciouscompliance
I enjoyed the last story a lot but I’m not sure how it’s malicious compliance, since OP verbally and through emails warned the guy about not parking there
The water bill case reminds me of a case where a man ignored a gas bill for $0.00 and was getting bill reminders, he tried calling and talking to someone at the gas company but they didn't fix the problem. The bill reminders started getting increasingly angry and threatened legal action. In exasperation the guy wrote a check for $0.00 and it crashed the bank. It went to court and he explained it all to to he judge that he was just trying to get to he has company off his back and the gas company got hauled in and had to explain themselves and got be a pretty hefty fine.
I hope that I never have to go full necromancer in order to deal with a bill.
My grandfather died five years ago. He had bought an apartment in France (we're Italian and about 2 hour drive away from the place) in the '90s and had hired a local agency to manage renting on that property whenever the family wasn't using it. After he died, my grandmother, whose mind had already begun deteriorating before he passed away, was relocated so that the rest of the family could take better care of her (some took that task more seriously than others, but that's another matter entirely).
The agency continued sending mail to my grandfather's address, the place where nobody lived anymore because he died and my grandmother was relocated, summoning him to meetings and stuff like that, no matter how many times and how many ways we notified them 1) of his death and 2) of the fact that, as a result of 1, the property had been passed down to his sons and daughters. It took literal years and speaking in person with the regional manager or something like that before we even came close to solving the matter. The fact that this was still happening when the pandemic hit did not help at all.
In the first story's comments, I believe I was part of that chain myself, and it was explained further to the person about why the bank reacted why they did. First off, it is not a crime to send human remains through the mail, so long as they are in a sealed container. A baggie would suffice. With corpses, it's not done that often, but it does happen from time to time, and there's a declaration that has to take place prior to the body being moved. Cremains generally don't require that.
Whatever the case, the reason that commenter's aunt ended up with an FBI file, is because they mailed an 'unknown substance' (that's the legal term for it) to a bank. After the incidents some years back where people mailed anthrax powder and other contaminants to public officials, banks, and so on; the response has been to always treat unknown powdered substances as terrorist acts. What happened with the aunt, is the FBI investigated her to see if it was Anthrax, tested the 'substance' and opened a file in regards to her threatening behavior.
This water story is one of the best reddit stories I've EVER heard. Her dad is so proud of her hahaha
We had a couple of relatives that when they passed certain companies insisted on continuing to send their junk mail, (they thought maybe someone else would be interested in their junk), we finally started stamping “return to sender” on everything.
i said next time you will get a 25Kg concrete post attached to your reply paid envelope
About that account, you would think that if the person who's name is on it is deceased they could use a death certificate to end it but it seems like they were just plain bent on trapping the person in paying fees. We need him here in person even though he is dead reminds me a little bit of the prank call scene to Principle Rooney. If you like funny classic movies that is a must watch for those who did not already see it yet. Anyhow I can just imagine how frustrating that was trying to get utility company to help them. I wonder how many other people they were giving that run around. That is when to hire an attorney and have a class action lawsuit brought against the phone company. Make them regret in the most sincere way imaginable not only messing with you but *all* other people too. It is right to also point out that denying you your title as executor to hold you hostage to pay fees even when you have the proper document (death certificate and your ID to prove your relation to the deceased) is grossly illegal and that unless they stop doing this a class action lawsuit with all other affected parties will be initiated. All that phone company was doing is trampling on your fundamental, irrevocable rights and that is absolutely positively 100% *unacceptable* !! Those are basic rights you have as a human being with or without The Constitution, I don't care what anyone tells you!!
1st story: I can relate to the first story. When my grandma died, the water service still was sending the bill, even when NOBODY lived there. Even the water service stopped providing water, we call them numerous times, and they still wanted us to pay.
And we cannot stop paying, because it is supposed by the government, and if we have pending bills, se cannot sell the place, at all.
3rd story: A co-worker had a similar deal, but he choose to stay, back in 2018. Guess what happened in 2019?, no promotion, only got a 2 k (pesos, not dollars) raise, and that was it.
Yeah, you can bet he wasn't happy. Like, man, what do they expect?, that people work their butt off, making the boss richer because "L0yAlty"?, bruh
The human remains thing is to stop organ trafficking to protect people and ensure that the organs are not contaminated. Also prevents people who have not donated their bodies from being sold but there are a few out there that gain the rights to move organs but don't even verify if the recipient is qualified to receive them.
Story 1 - I can't count how many times I've told telemarketers demanding to speak to my father to hold a séance to talk to him. Also, OP should have asked the father to stick around the office in case they had any more issues with his account.
I took an environmental law class. Turned out there was no statute of limitations on prosecuting a person or company for environmental law violations. A few years earlier I had built a structure to prevent our house from being undermined by erosion. No permits, no impact statement, etc. In the class I learned that even after several hundred years, the Environmental Protection agency could dig me up, stand my dead ass up in court and convict me of environmental crimes.
That last one isn't even malicious compliance, that's just someone fucking around, and finding out.
I actually work somewhere that sends cremated remains through the mail, including jewlery and special urns. The USPS is the only legal way to send cremated remains, no other couriers will. The snag is that the box must be clearly labeled on all sides, top and bottom as containing cremated remains.
The first story. I would love to hear the perspective from all the water company people who were present that day.
Yeah. After my husband passed away, I kept getting collection letters and bills in his name as well having to change utilities to my name. I had the box with his cremaines and copies of the death certificate in my car so every time I had to deal with stupidity, I pulled both out. Got many strange looks. Also offered to send ashes to telemarters and collections who kept calling after his death.
Committing wage theft should honestly be a misdemeanor crime if it isn't already, including not paying out promised bonuses and lying about promotions for the sake of employee retention.
First story: Now, that was malicious compliance was truly epic. 🤣
I mean, yes, sending human remains through the mail is a crime in many places.
However law can be really tricky. Over here it's also illegal to send human remains through the mail unless you're a service that has to somehow get those to the owner (like a cremation company that sends you the urn through mail, that is allowed)
HOWEVER, it has to be prooven that, without a doubt, what you recieved was human remains. So if you were to gather some ashes from a fire place that are, say, of you burning multiple sheets of paper and send that, it wouldn't be a crime, EVEN if you suggested it was human ashes, simply due to a technicality.
The crime isn't suggesting it's human remains, the crime is actually doing it. So if they find out that the only corpse you sent was that of a Tree, it's not a crime anymore. You might still get in trouble because the Authorities had to be involved over you being a bit special about your way of handling things, but that specific crime wouldn't be what's on your record.
The parking spot story has a follow-up and it's not all rosy. The security guard didn't have the authority to give OP that spot and got in trouble, and OP had to go back to parking far away.
Ok so the first one is hands down my favorite story so far!! From every r/slash!! I delt with something similar when my grandfather passed away and American Express wouldn't close his account/card even though there was nothing owed. I wish we would have though of doing something like that 😂
*First Story:* I dealt with something similar with AT&T years ago when my dad died, a death certificate wasn’t enough to shut down his phone so I took his cremated ashes, slammed the box on the counter & said “he’s here, now we need his phone turned off” the woman look mortified.
Did they turn it off?
Years ago my mom called the doctor's office that her sister went to and spoke to the receptionist.
Mom: Hi, I got this letter saying that my sister owes a fee for missing an appointment.
Receptionist: Yes ma'am, we have a fee if you don't call in advance to let us know that you won't be coming in.
Mom: She didn't call because she died the day before.
My mom said she'd never heard someone backpedal so quick in her life. Profuse apologies and the fee immediately waived. THAT'S how you're supposed to deal with these situations.
In my home, Denmark, a grave is normally for some years, and then the actual body stays in the ground till it eventually has disappeared in the ground! But I know of a rather famous, early Danish Bike Producer in England, an early type bike made in the town of Dursley ("Dursley Pedersen"), became reburied in this town after having originally been buried in his native home of Copenhagen. But his grave had expired long ago! And then the remains of his bones became taken up and brought to England in a box formerly containing cognac. But his bikes, with their very special and expensive type frames, are now still being produced in Denmark!!!
As someone that was contracted with the US Postal Service, Ashes get shipped thought the mail all the time. they just have to be labeled as such. there was a small town I took a load of mail too every day and the local Funeral Home there didn't have a way to cremate anyone so they would send bodies (not using mail) to a place to get it done and they would come back to them in the mail. I had a Semi that had lots of Ashes on it over the years.
When my grandfather passed away, my mom and grandmother were trying to get things put into grandma's name and they pulled a stunt like this.
My mom finally had enough, called them and said:
"I have the address to his new place. It's *address*, lot *so-and-so*."
"Oh, is it a trailer park?"
"No, it's a cemetery. He's DEAD."
There wasn't any trouble after that.
As a funeral director, I can confirm that cremated remains can ONLY be mailed through the Postal Service, not FedEx or UPS.
My mother had to close many accounts when my grandfather died. Amazon was the worst. It took a dozen calls and the response; "He is no longer with us" was met with "Well, we need to speak to him." My mother was grief stricken, my grandmothers mental health was in decline and 17 year old me eventually snapped. The next time Amazon called and I gave them the response that my grandfather was no longer with us and they insisted to speak with him, I asked the represenative; "Do you have a Ouija board?"
"Excuse me?"
"Do. You. Have. A Ouija board?"
"No sir, I just need to..."
"The only way you will be able to communicate with my grandfather is with a Ouija board. And if you can reach (Grandfather's name), make sure it's the right one and pass it to me. I can think of (Quick maths) 12 other people who would love to talk to him. HE IS NO LONGER WITH US. PLEASE CLOSE HIS ACCOUNT."
It took a few more sarcastic replies like this one. But eventually we got notice that Amazon was closing his account due to inactivity.
Don't die with an active Amazon account. They'll insist to speak with you from the grave.
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There was one where a someone kept trying to get in touch with a dead guy and his daughter kept telling them he was dead, so she brought his urn and death certificate to their office. Girl at the desk was a moron and decided this was a threat to her life.
Was there room in the urn for the receptionist?
@@johannesnoneoftheabove9957 I mean, probably, but that’d be rude to the dead guy 🤣
@@someonebored0100 You're probably right. After her initial shock, bla, bla, bla for eternity. You're right; he wouldn't deserve that. But we hope the next receptionist would be more mindful.
I'd just like to remind everyone that "meh it's not worth it" is exactly what they count on to screw you
1st Story. I never went as far as bringing in remains but after my mum passed her internet provider at the time was a nightmare. Wouldn't close the account cos she was on contract. Said she had to give permission. I even offered to pay out the contract, at first but even after death certificates, letter from the corona all types still nothing i had to go to consumer affairs. They stepped in and dsmn they were quick then to close her account and funnily enough I wasn't charged for breaking the contract, even tho mum died and didn't mean to break contract. Took me 8 months of drama before it was sorted. Losing family is hard enough, companies that do that are ridiculous.
Not sure what phone company in the US they were with, but when I worked at VZW, we weren't even allowed to ask for a death certificate. If they brought one, which most people did, great, if not, we wouldn't question is. How can you be so insensitive to someone's family?
I totally get the first story. My husband passed 5 years ago. His name was on the electric bill, water/utilities, etc. I was able to just change them to my name EXCEPT the water bill. They insisted that I would have to start a new account, which would include a deposit, since "I didn't have an account". We had lived in the house for 30 years by that point. So, 5 years later my water bill still comes in my late husband's name...🤦♀️
A coworker had a client on the phone who had a heart attack while she was taking to him-he died right then. Her 'Buddies' sent her a bag of ashes and suggested her to contact a 'Medium' so he could finish his 'statement to her'. She had to be taken home she was so rattled.
Another good day because of RSlash
Sending ashes in the mail is not a federal crime in United States. You just have to send it through the quickest way and pay more. I did it with my dad's ashes recently to give to my aunt
I was the executor of my dad's estate. All of his billers received the death certificate and closed accounts, EXCEPT the hospital. No matter that I sent them multiple copies of the death certificate, made numerous phone calls and even emailed the billing department, my mom just kept getting the bills, with the threat that they would take my dad to court and ruin his credit. So on the next bill, I wrote across the bill in black marker (of course) "If you want so badly for my deceased dad to pay his bill, you need to go to xxx lake, dive in, and ask the first fish you see where he's at, so you can be sure to get your money". I sprinkled a bit of water on the bill, just for effect, so the marker words would run a little. Never heard from those idiots again.
Not illegal, in the US, to mail (by USPS ONLY) cremated remains, they just have to be packaged and marked in a super specific way. Planning on doing this? Do yourself a favor and get a funeral director to do it, because it's (a pain in the butt) complicated & time consuming.
The powers that be get rather unhappy if they catch you trying otherwise. Kind of an interesting case of "F around an find out," as it were.
I'm assuming the first story takes place in Germany. Because a lot of companies and government offices here are bureaucratic like that. The only thing that makes me think it's not is that usually after the rent time is up the bones are reburied not delivered to the family.
If only were possible to have the puppetry from Halloween town with Benny, the skeleton, LOL. I can imagine having that and trying to sign the document and the hand come off and be like whoops! I guess you won’t be needing that anymore.
Sending human remains through the mail is legal if they are properly packaged and labeled as such. You used to be able to "mail" live humans (usually children) through the postal service but that hasn't been allowed for a long time. Probably when they stopped using horses lol.
Maybe the laws differed in OP's country, but I'm pretty sure that most if not all of the bill the Water company tried to collect from a dead person was almost certainly illegal. Debt expires after so many years of inactivity, usually much less than 20. And that's not even getting into the legality of refusing to recognize a death certificate and continuing to bill a dead person for 20 years being repeatedly notified to cancel the service.
Actually you can mail cremated remains through the US Postal Service! I'm a carrier and have delivered 19 of them in my small NJ town. They have a special black sticker declaring what they are and they are ALWAYS sent express and signature required.
Story 1 I'd encountered in a cpl.other vids. And on one of them I suggested that just the bag of bones wasn't enough; op should have placed the skull opposite herself at the ouija board.
I laughed so hard at the first story I almost ran a red light home from work. Don't worry, I stopped in time. 👍
My mom lives in Ohio and she had a similar problem with the water company when my stepfather passed. they refused to change the water bill over into her name until my stepfather closed the account himself even after she faxed them a copy of his death certificate. My mom didn't need this BS while dealing with the unexpected loss of her husband. Long story short, it took her over a year to get this handled.
Something similar happened after my girlfriend grandma died.
She had an account in a bank with significant sum, that she was saving for her granddaughter(never got around to transferring it), but when they went to the bank with the dead certificate and the next of kin documentation(she had only one son - my girlfriend father) the bank would tell them that the grandma had to come in person to transfer the account, regardless of the death certificate... After the bank was quoted the law regarding this they still would say "it is the banks policy" and that it overrules the law... Bad move, as the both my girlfriend and her father are lawyers.