r/Maliciouscompliance Won't Pay Me? I'll Leave You with $100,000,000 Debt!
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:10 Getting my whole department new jobs
4:47 HR says only smart people can work here
6:37 Awful boss at a shipping job
12:08 You have to buy a whole new fan
14:02 I don't need your help
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
I spent over 200 hours of my life listening to all R/prorevenge and R/miscompliance non stop at work/driving and working while finding this channel 2.5 weeks ago
You listened to 12 hours of Rslash, daily, nonstop for the last 2.5 weeks?
@@MyLittlePonyTheater if they are something like a truck driver I could see how that's possible, I'm sure there are plenty of other jobs that have that much time
@@Jkb2002 I work night shift in manufacturing and I'm allowed to have an ear bud in while I work so I was listening to it
I love listening to the spooky reddit videos while working or driving
somebody do the math here please?
7:07 100% UPS. I worked for them before and my boss threatened to slit my throat. This was AFTER multiple HR complaints I had made on her. This one HR tried to say I was lying and threatened termination. However I live in a 1 party consent state and whipped out a recording of our interactions. They were quick to turn things around. Being young and dumb I didn't think on sueing but they gave me a contract to not sue and leave while giving me 3 months pay.
(Edit) I was a supervisor so no union to work with me on the matter.
My brother worked for UPS in the union, and they were no better to him. He got fired, sued, got a settlement.
That what I said, I worked for FedEx and noticed A LOT of similarities, but what gave it away was the fact the Vanlines were u shape instead of a line like at FedEx. Plus at Fedex my friend I worked with said he worked for UPS and how trucks would have an alarm at the back to detect missloads, where at FedEx you have to scan a barcode on the back of the truck
I was very happy to see someone else recognized the UPS Termanology. My experience with the union has been much better, but I’m a driver, so they tend to protect us a little bit better than the warehouse employees. It’s honestly almost impossible to get fired.
CEO: "If you found that "job", you better take it."
OP: "Okay!" *Takes a new job*
CEO: "You weren't supposed to do that."
OP:"BuT yOu ToLD mE ToO"
CEO: _surprised Pikachu face_
CEO: "No, that's not how you're supposed to play the game!"
@@Jivvi LITERALLY what happened during COVID. "You weren't supposed to find jobs that paid better or gave you a sign on bonus!! HOW DARE!!"
These people NEVER expect people to ACTUALLY take them up on their offer. Probably because they think EVERYONE is trying to pay their employees Bottom Tier Wages, and thus would NEVER find some place better.
"Except that i.....did....🤔"
Under no circumstances should anyone in any company ever speak the "if you can find a better job, take it" line.
Especially not the CEO
What if you're sabotaging a bad company?
Well if that is a friendly advice to some anxious co-worker..
My old manager actually gave me that line, but he was sincere about it. He knew it was his job to make my job the best that he could to keep people but if there was something he couldn't match he would wholeheartedly endorse you pursuing it instead.
i should have left my old job as soon as the owner hit me with that line. we had already had over half our staff quit that year and i was quite literally the only person ever willing to do overtime, and there was a ton of it. that conversation somehow ended with a pretty good raise for me though. i think he was just old and confused honestly lol.
Hearing “see ya” without the “wouldn’t wanna be ya” doesn’t feel right 😭
Ikr
Same
I was waiting for it as well lol
Yes it really doesn’t
So I'm in the minority here, who doesn't like the 2nd part? ;p
Story 3: Why even tell employees to break company policy, you know *THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!*
Because he's probably the type of person who thinks that his "laws" out rank company policy.
Following illegal orders absolves management and lands squarely on the employees. I was a group lead on a prosecutions team. The Supervisor, who was an idiot, told my team to violate the law on NCIS disclosure. I told them not to do that. He heard that and became angry. I went to bat for my team and the law. It was an angry exchange. In the end, the law was followed. Management be damned.
@@MrKingArthurhk I agree. When crap hits the fan, what is written on paper is what people are held to.
I would get "directions" to violate policy/law in writing.
I used to be an operations manager at Staples. Our check policy stated that we could not accept any checks that did not have a name and an address on it. One day a guy comes in to pay with a check with no name and address and I wouldn't accept it. He made a corporate complaint. My district manager comes to talk to me about it and tells me I should have accepted it because it was only for a small amount (it was like $35)
I said something mike, "I thought policies for payment options were set in stone." He told me (and I quote him exactly here) " no policy is set in stone"
I said "how can we expect our employees to know what to do and what not to do and more specifically, how can we fire them for not following policy (something that had happened very recently in a similar policy hypocrisy situation) he told me something to the effect of 'it was such a small amount it wouldn't have mattered." My argument was "ok sure I accept his check against policy and then grt fired for going against policy. How am I supposed to know, as an employee, what the line is when the policy specifically States X? More than that, what if the person right behind him had a larger amount and they saw I took his check but wouldn't take theirs. How amnI supposed to explain to that person?"
He basically told me to let it go and send the items to the guy, for free. We never did lol.
The other situation. We had an employee that basically made a house call for a customer that customer was very happy with the help you received and called Staples corporate to do a customer compliment. Our district manager sent a note saying "this is how it's done" and an award for that employee. A couple months later, the employee did it again with a different customer. This time the customer insisted on a tip. Later a district loss prevention officer was in store and talking to customers and the 2nd customer brought the situation up to compliment said employee. The loss prevention officer took unbrage with the tip and the employee was fired. Both he and I argued with the district manager but to no use.
Later they tried to deny him unemployment for case due to broken policy. They lost as A)there was no written policy and B) hebhad that note from the district manager saying "this is how it's done" as well as the general manager and I'm written statements.
It was between thus employee being fired and the unemployment hearing the other conversation happened.
Well, it sounds like he was trying to get OP in to trouble, IMO.
Story 2: If HR scored less than half if the rest of the staff, should HR fire himself?
y e s
The story about the light panel from the ceiling fan, that's actually what you're supposed to do. That's not malicious compliance, that's complying while feeling malicious.
And the animosity towards the store employees is entirely misplaced. Home Depot isn't actually the manufacturer and if the store doesn't have the part they don't have the part. What's Rico supposed to do about it?
@@thrdeye7304 Free fan on rico's dime
Yeap… this guy is just a thief. Planned obsolescence is the price we pay for cheap goods made in foreign countries. If the parts were actually replaceable it would cost twice as much or more.
That guy is just an entitled thief.
you know college is going well when you manage to get to rSlash episodes in a day
Ha, good for you! Do good! 🙂
You know it! I got no work load today finally.
Hahahaha midterms amiright
Cheers mate, College is so much more tolerable with Rslash
So then it's not going well? I don't see a second video
It's kinda hilarious that HR got 4/10 in logic lol
That's because HR doesn't have any logic! They're logic is "Do as I say not as I do and what I say goes except for me because then I can just blame you for my mistake!"
Honestly it's better than I expected.
Checks out
Actually a lot of lightbulbs now are LED, yet another thing companies are doing is permanently fixing the light source into the light fixture itself. Which means when it eventually burns out, you have to replace the entire fixture, over a bulb instead. It's a really scummy tactic that is becoming all to common with how hard companies are fighting against the right to repair things. Given it forces you to replace a otherwise fine light fixture, all because you cannot replace the light source.
To be fair making the lights user replaceable and the parts available introduces considerable cost and complexity both from an engineering and logistics standpoint, all to introduce a feature that many buyers may never use given the greatly increased LED lifespan. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for right to repair and products that are built to last but there's a price to be paid for that. One that many potential buyers may not understand or be willing to pay for over the competitor's cheaper (but relatively disposable) alternative. Planned obsolescence isn't the only factor.
@@thrdeye7304 I mean I'm only concerned about the bulbs themselves. Given the ones that cannot be fixed use light strips for the intentional purpose of either being hard to replace or impossible to. For the reason of replacing the whole fixture which typically lasts much much longer than the actual light source.
Way late but if someone wants a real life point about this, look up Rachel and Jun! They built a house in Japan a while ago and they caught that ALL the lights were the 'replace the whole fixture' type. So they got to change them before building.
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The first story reminds me of that EA Marketing manager that was like "If you don't like your game, don't buy it!"
So, people didn't.
Except that just resulted in one product having below-average sales.
Hey, don't knock how hard that hit the company lol. Games are both expensive and labor intensive. Any cut to the bottom line on a AAA game hits a lot harder than people think. It means the company had to pay the developers out of their pocket, and not from the game's profits.
That's hilarious! Which game was it?
@@lwolfstar7618 Battlefield 5. It was a PR disaster.
@@transsnack Thing is, if company stock goes down, it isn't as bad as it seems because if the company is stable, more people will buy the stock which can actually result in it being worth more after a few months.
And looking at EA now, it doesn't seem to have hurt them that much in the long run.
Of course I don't know how the situation was right after that disaster went down.
@@Nerobyrne I guess this falls under a matter of perspective. I'm in school for game development, and a lot of us newbies have decided not to work for EA because of this and other reasons. EA might be fine for now, but they're want to start running into trouble getting new staff. No local staff means they're going to have to outsource, which means higher cost and lower quality, which will eventually catch up with them. It sucks, because I actually like some of EA's games, but I can't work for a company that disregards both their customers and their employees.
Story 2: hey, *yeah!* Most jobs won't necessarily have you always working alone, why *not* use the resources you have as a team to help each other?
“31 seconds ago” and it’s malicious compliance…my favorite besides pro revenge
Same!
When the HR scores only 4/10 for logic, that's when I'd start looking for new people to work in HR, because it's completely ridiculous that the people in charge of employee Logistics can't core higher then a 4/10 in Logic.
Story 4: LED light bulbs rarely burn out (the LED part itself). Its usually the AC to DC converters that "burnout." If they aren't cooled properly, their lifespan is greatly reduced. I saw one fail within a year.
He probably talked about the Phoebus cartel from 1925 :D It was about incandescent light bulbs. Nothing to do with LEDs.
You got it backwards, the LED's do not like heat, they are over driven and poorly cooled, which burns them out and once a single LED that goes short, that causes a cascade where the rest will be even hotter and eventually kill all of them, yes the power supply does also get hot and fail, but it highly depends on the bulb and wattage in question, but those common 10W+ bulbs in standard small packages will almost always kill the LEDs, the larger bulbs with some kind of heatsink will probably last until a capacitor dries out.
@@Narethian Probably, but this also affects LEDs, some people refuse to buy them now because sometimes they won't even last as long as an incandescent bulb while being advertised as 5x-10x the life, usually based on something like 1 or 2 hours of use.
@@vgamesx1 It is a sad reality that people use one bad experience as an example to condemn a technology thats actually not that bad.
My LED lights work fine and I don't think I had to change one since I moved in this apartment. I use these for at least 3 (almost 4) years without fail. Most of them look like bulbs. Only my bathroom got a different type. I don't know the terminology but it's not a bulb and it is certified for bathrooms. I expected to have some issues because its quite close to the shower.
I had an LED clip on desk lamp for five years. It only failed because I unclipped it to tranfer it to a new desk I had bought, and I accidentaly dropped it and stepped on it. RIP old faithful.
I would also like to point out that the longer you make an incandescent light bulb last, the less light it will produce.
HD light-panel: Shiite, I've done that with sellers on amazon and local stores alike. Something goes blooey within the touted warranty period (usually something like 2yrs or more), you get blown off time and again trying for a legit in-warranty replacement, so finally just buy as close to the exact item as went blooey, replace/swap/whatever the part, and return the new one as DOA for a full refund.
Story 3: words can't describe how much I hate companies who make work competitive, because it's something they use to find the lowest preforming employee so they can get rid of them (hi Amazon)
*coughs* FedEx
CEO: why are all of my employees quitting?
Me: we were following your instructions!
Just to be clear, Home Depot is a supply chain, not a manufacturer. Just because it was their brand, doesn't mean it came from a manufacturer owned by home depot, it just means they own the product rights.
I shop at home depot as a manager at an electrical company. Now don't get me wrong, I understand the guys frustration, but what he did was theft lol.
Not that I care, it's a multi-million dollar corporation. However, I feel sorry for the next customer to purchase the fan that will now have a faulty light, and has to go through the hassle of returning etc.
Rico was right, every product has a manufacturers warranty at Home Depot, usually in the manual or a warranty card, which clearly this guy didn't save, so this story actually should be on AITA because yeah, he kinda was one.
Just a story of a guy who has no clue what he's talking about. Home Depot is like Costco, they just buy in bulk to get killer pricing to incentivize customers. Minus the subscription.
Try going to an electrical supply house, like Platt, Stoneway, or whatever is in your state. Sure, they'll be a bit more expensive, but guess what? They'll probably have the replacement parts you want.
Not here to argue whether or not the guy was TA, just to lament how dumb that is on the consumer’s end. “It’s sold in our store with our brand name on it, but it’s not actually ours so we can’t help you if the product is faulty.”
I understand a lot of companies outsource a lot of product and labor because it’s cost/labor effective. But it also has the added “benefit” of only taking responsibility for a small fraction of what you provided, if that makes sense? (For instance, at my company we ship items to customers through UPS, so once it’s picked up it’s UPS’s issue to handle. Which makes perfect sense, we aren’t UPS, but it also makes sense for customers to want to call us to ask us where TF their stuff is and to get frustrated when we tell them we can’t help them and they have to call someone else)
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I've mentioned in the comments before I've drove FedEx before as a ground delivery person. I usually tried to show up early so I could just stand in the back of my truck so the package handlers could just toss the packages my way so I could load it, saving them time. Sometimes I miss that job, then I remember the bullshit they pulled. Funny enough I actually found rSlash looking for interesting things to listen to while driving my truck in the morning.
Story 2: Pre-employment tests are more defensible from lawsuits if they are benchmarked against current employees. I see that was what HR was trying to do here, but really the benchmarking should have come first, so they can see if the test is really an accurate predictor of on-job success
Dang, I work as a package handler too. That story really hit home. But I'm jealous that their belt loops back around. Our van belts just end, so fly by are an issue.
I did a seasonal stint and agree: a loop around would have been great! We got dinged if we missed a package and the belt ended. They only sent the missed ones back around if there was an absurd amount and everyone got in trouble
Same lmao I worked at FedEx for quite some time and it just ends, thank God I left that place. I was one of the only package handlers that were cross trained throughout the whole facility
I had a supervisor that was a micro manager, and a complete A-hole. With that he was always riding me for doing my job my way. My way was faster, time efficient and a hell of a lot easier. He got upset all the time with me and 1 day told me he was going to write me up for disrespect for not listening to him. So I meet him in the office of his manager and an HR rep. As he runs his neck about disrespect. My turn to talk, I look him straight in the eye and ask " How can I disrespect you , if I've never had respect for you in the first place" . He turned purple as his blood pressure hit the roof. His boss and HR literally were laughing. Needless to say I didn't get written up.
About the light bulb manufacturer scam thing, I’m an electrician and though it is true you could get a kind of “ everlasting lightbulb “ the way you have to do it would leave the resulting light bulb very dim and very yellow as well as consuming more power because of the way you have to run the power to it so that’s why they run them hotter and as a result they burn out eventually.
But there’s an outside lightbulb that’s been going for over 100 years...
I was waiting for the "WOULDN'T WANNA BE YA!" and it never came. 😭
Great video as always!
You should have a podcast. Oh. Not only do you already have one.... but I was also already following it 🤦🏼😂
The home depot story reminds me of when i worked in retail. We sold office chairs and one of my managers in particular would pester us to get customers to buy warranties along with them. They were a rip off and a hassle when something did go wrong so I didn't like selling them to people. Sometimes I would tell the customers there's an annoying manager upfront that will bug the shit out of you to get this warranty. He's going to tell you that if you don't get the warranty and something happens to the chair you'll have to go through the manufacturer. Most of the chair we sold were store brand. There was one time in particular that when I told a customer about the manager and warranty hassle when i bring the chair to the register upfront. He brought up the fact that its a store brand chair so shouldn't he come back to the store? I said something like thats a good question. When my manager asks you and he will, we'll find out. That exact scenario plays out when I'm ringing him up at the register. Im guessing he's not been asked that question much but as soon as the customer goes, "well its a store brand chair so I'll come back to the store." The look on his face suggested his brain was short circuiting and i ended up just bringing it to his car and laughing about it with him outside.
Last Story: I enjoyed hearing this as a chronic pain patient, because many people in the medical insurance industry and even some doctors, have 0 empathy for people like me. Sometimes patients wish for those type of people to know what it’s like to be them, so they know how difficult it is. Medical bills are expensive if you have a chronic condition and we’re constantly made to jump through hoops. It is sad though, that her experience didn’t change her mind.
Ahhh yess. THIRD STORY is something I relate to cuz I have the same job. Had the same micromanaging supervisor who was just being annoying to be important and I was taking out packages in the trucks that needed to be put in another truck. And it was about 100 of packages. And he told me to stop doing that and go back to load the trucks and I refused because I do not like stopping midway in my work and having a stack of boxes in the way. Whenever they say they will have someone clear that for me I won't get help till like 15 minutes later when I could have already got it done. He later went "Do it or go home!" And I told him "your not sending me home only the GM can" and he went off and got him. Sadly it didn't end like this story because the gm is also a butthole and went off on my for nOt liStEnInG TO My SupErVisOr. Moral of the story that's why some people call him the stupidvisor.
If it's the same place I'm thinking of, never... EVER... talk with the GMs without a union rep present. Insist you won't talk until they return with one, but never stop working.
Trust me on this one.
Was shocked that HR scored that high in logic
About light bulbs, there are laws and industry standards regarding the lifespan of the light bulbs (you can find many interesting documentaries in YT)
If you make a permanent light bulbs, it's likely you get blacklisted from the industry and more consequence. It's sad we need to keep replacing our light bulbs but at the same time, we also get better lighting technology due to that. It's not a complete lose on our part.
Another fantastic video from the grand master of the Internet
Guess I'll get my day started. Good morning, Dabney and slashers!
Story 1: OP really said “No person left behind” and that’s amazing. Plus based off the new job, sounds like all three are going to have a much healthier environment
I don't understand why people see 40 hours and say "I remember my first part time job, come back when you pull at least 80 hours a week, then you can call yourself a man" dude, 80 hours is not a flex, it's just sad, sad that you don't see the free time and family time you don't have
Bad fact on light bulbs. The issue with incandescent bulbs is that they have to have a much thinner filament to get more resistances at the standard home power spec. The problem, that makes them hotter. The heating and cooling from regular use and turning off of a bulb creates stress in the filament metal and over time degrades it until it fails.
Want a bulb that lasts forever? Have one that uses nearly a much power, but is only as bright as a few candles.
story 3 sounds like my sister, she is a supervisor now for a UPS air hub where she's in charge of sorting belts but she started out on the ramp loading cans of packages on planes and later loading trucks, some of her supervisors were trash
edit for story 4: idk how old this fan is but if it's an integrated led panel then that's only been out for a few months, and If that's the case, home Depot doesn't manufacturer any of the fans currently. they may own specific brands they carry but they don't carry replacement pieces to said specific fans, like you can found online, they just carry generic off brands. only thing they could do was part out another fan depending on the timeline between purchase and the issue, there's no buying a replacement without contacting the customer service number you're given on the packaging or online
The Home Depot story: I had a florescent bulb that lasted me over ten years, and I only replaced it this year. It didn't burn out, I just wanted a brighter bulb for the cool new lamp I got, as the bulb had been slowly dimming that last few years or so.
The Home Depot story reminds me of a problem that I had buying a pressure washer. When I got it home, I noticed that I had obviously been previously purchased and returned. I don't care about a few scratches so I decide to keep it and try it out. I soon discovered why it had been returned; water leaked everywhere. I tried to return it to the store but I was greeted with "Sorry, we don't take returns on used pressure washers. You'll need to return it to a factory repair facility". Well, that would be 2 hours driving way....so nope. I went home, neatly repackaged it and sealed it up with tape and the next day returned it as a new unwanted gift. For some reason that was OK. I suspect that the person before me had done the same thing.
When rSlash said we have the technology to make light bulbs last forever, he's mistaken. The technology he's referring to is a light bulb that has been running in a fire station since 1901, and it is used in a lot of articles on planned obsolescence. "This light has burned for over a century, but we have to change all of ours every 5 years??" well, yes, that is a thing lightbulb companies have designed for, but it's also important that the eternal light bulb is kept just barely on with minimal power at all times. It's super dim. It's not being a light, it's being a statement. Also, the lights that we have now days, with LED technology, are ridiculously long lasting and efficient, and way better than that eternal light bulb.
He's wrong about a lot of things a lot of the time.
@@avashnea you won't hear any arguments from me. My favourite videos are the ones where he just reads the stories with no commentary
Story 2: Imagine sucking at the test that you made yourself while everyone else almost passed flawlessly.
The idea of a standardized test sounds dumb
It reminds me of public school standardized tests. My son scored a 4.0 (4th grade) while in 7th grade. It would be horrifying if I hadn't spent two years doing homeschool because he can now read at a 10th grade level according to every other metric except public school 🙄
Standardized testing in general is dumb. It's actively harmful to some kids too. You can't put kids on a conveyer belt and expect them all to fit the mold you made.
And it's for this sort of thing that I'll forever think IQ tests do more harm than good
That light bulb fact isn't true. The bulbs of yesteryear didn't carry nearly as much current as modern ones do. Yes, there was a conspiracy to make them last less, but that was busted and the one bulb that's been glowing for a hundred years is dim as hell.
The HR story. Where and how can an HR dept have that kind of power over already established workers? Any changes to policy have to come from management, and HR are not directly managers, and I am pretty sure those kinds of changes are not within their remit. Tbh though, the solution OP and his colleagues used was just perfect.
the home depot story: this isnt really malicious compliance lmao op is proud of themself bc they got one up on the /retail/ store. Ive worked custome services there for 4 years. the home depot /store/ isnt a manufacturer its just the point of sale for those products. THD the company owns brand name manufacturers that procure product for retail and online stores-- so youd actually have to contact the brand name to get a specific part. what the customer service person did is what we tell everyone that comes in with that kind of problem- but what i would've done was just grab a new one off the shelf and gave the new piece to that customer, stuck the old one back in and slap a Return To Vendor tag on it. i know some stores dont do this so dont get on my ass abt it, but what the op is complaining about is what every entitled customer complains about, nothing special.
don't you love malice in moderation? like drinking. if you do it too much its harmful but just the right amount is extremely effective and strongly suggested by many..
I never drink. drinking is also never "recommended" but this was a good example, right?
Depends on who you ask. There's people that swear they lived to 100+ by drinking a scotch or wine a day.
@@falcie7743 I do not trust whoever says that. they were probably born through necromancy.
That package handler job thing feels so unreal as a package handler to hear a malicious compliance story about my current job. Will say, my facility works differently than op's, but people at shipping facilities tend to be so conterintuitive and dumb...
I used to work at FedEx as a package handler, thank GOD I left. It was so miserable. I am now sitting in my truck at Swissport Fueling at an airport, listening to rshlash on the job having the time of my life. The final straw was when they tried to take my phone away even though the phone made me work so much better at FedEx. They were indeed counterintuitive and dumb, horrible place to work.
He 100% works at UPS. I was a PT supe there for 3 years.
That supervisor is an idiot.
@@angkarbasil yeah, lol, can confirm I'm currently employed there 😅
@@Jay-ei4cr leave man, there is so much better opportunities. Try working for a nearby airport
@@angkarbasil there's no airports nearby :/ plus I like my coworkers and a couple of my direct bosses. Though I am planning on reducing hours and getting a different job
HR scores 4/10 for Logic? Makes more sense than it should.
The HR at my Software company made us do a personality test to ensure we were suited to our roles - they scrapped it when the head of marketing tested as “best suited for nursing” 😂
Just gotta love the idiotic ideas some people come up with! 🤣
We also have the ability to run vehicles on water and release harmless vapor into the atmosphere. However, the auto makers including the electric ones that require electricity from conventional sources won’t allow it. The patents have been around for decades.
Show me the patent
@@balorth I probably existed before you were born. The man who designed it was subsequently murdered. The big money and DC power brokers were doing great on conventional means through subsidies and the usual insider trading. The corrupt power brokers change their minds all the time. For instance, flying private jets all over the world to tell average people they are the greatest problem and to just eat bugs.
About the ceiling fan story: A customer bought a fan from home depot for us to install and when we opened it parts were missing. He took out more parts of it that he wanted as spares and returned it saying it was missing parts (and wrote in marker on every side of the box that it was missing parts). A couple days later it was back on the shelf still missing parts.
I always wondered how these executives keep their companies afloat... All the executives I know are always swamped with work and even at home they aren't free from work calls and their free time is their networking time.
Some clarification/additional info on the lightbulb thing:
The so called Phoebus cartel was a group of light bulb manufacturers (incl. GE, Osram, Phillips, etc.) who, from January 1925 until at least 1942, set limits on the life expectancy of light bulbs, about 1000hrs. (one of the earliest cases of documented planned obsolescence)
These days, incandescent light bulbs (ones with a glowing filament inside), still have about that same life expectancy, though they are quite a bit brighter (which is a direct trade off).
LEDs (which are the direct successor, especially on europe where most kinds of glowing light bulbs are banned at this point due to their hilarious inefficiency), will, if properly manufactured and installed, last nearly indefinetly. Hovever, many fixtures designed for older bulbs will lead to the electronics in an LED bulb cooking itself, vastly reducing it's lifespan. Some newer LED bulbs are better at dealing with this by dimming themselfes to reduce the heat output of their controlling electronics to circumvent this problem, but the actual solution are newer fixtures with proper ventilation. If properly built and installed, LEDs can last between 20k and 30k hours.
For illustration: White LEDs convert between 40% and 60% of the energy put into them to visible light, the rest being lost to heat. By contrast, incandescent bulbs only convert between 2% and 5%, the rest, again, being lost to heat (basically, they are rather expensive space heaters who happen to give off some light^^)
Also, props to OP in that fourth story for standing up for his rights and insiting on reapiring his fan
So he screwed over the next home depot customer by giving them a faulty ceiling fan. That's really shitty. We once got a water heater that ended up being defective and we had no water pressure for 6 years because we didn't want the Hassle of un installing and returning. Pretty sure someone returned it without explaining there was something wrong with it and we were the suckers that ended up with it. Not OK.
Very conveniently shifting the burden of quality control from the company making money of it to a customer who wasn't willing to keep a malfunctioning product.
@@OneEyeShadow I get that. And home depot is definitely garbage for that but knowingly passing that on to an innocent customer is just as shitty. It's not shifting the burden, it's unnecessarily ruining someone else's day when they didn't have to.
It seems pretty clear with the packaging thing that Alan never cared about the scanning but the higher ups do. I imagine he didn't come up with the scanner counting thing on his own and some of those announcements were messages he got from his boss. The micromanaging and bad packing advice was probably all him though
fun fact about my family home. we recently realized that one of the ligutbulbs in our house has lasted almost 30 years. The light is only on for about 30 seconds to 1 minute at a time because we use it to light the basement steps when we go up and down them at night and most times we dont even use them (unless we have a laundry basket). we realized this because my mom never cleaned out the glass protector around the light buld until like 2 days ago. usually if we had to change a light and it has the glass protector over it she has my dad take it down and then she cleans it so the light can be bright when the new bulb is in. The basement stairs light was reallytdingy and yellow and she said "huh i never cleaned that. i usually clean those when we change the bulb".
tldr: theres a light bulb in my house that that stilll works thats older than me.
That light bulb thing is only oartially true. Making everlasting lightbulbs would make them very expensive and inefficient. We now use LEDs anyway.
“4/10 for logic” wow that seems high for an HR department. Give this HR department an Guinness world record for the smartest HR in the world
LED manufacturers don’t make light bulbs that burn out after a certain time. LEDs can last DECADES if used right. The other components on the PCB however, don’t. They crap out after a few years. What we should have are LEDs that are separate from the circuitry that runs them. LED goes out? Probably the PCB, just replace it. But that isn’t going to happen, because that would cost money!
The lightbulb comment is referring to planned obsolescence. And it applies to all manufactured items. Thus you have electronics that have a warranty of 2-3 years because manufacturers know those devices will start breaking down after the warranty expires. They want you to pay more for the duration the devices are still working and then they want the warranty to end by the time they know their devices will start breaking down. They planned for the devices to breakdown by the time the warranty ends.
Upper management can be suuuuuper myopic about finances. Our old IT director wouldn't let anyone have a second monitor, let alone a third, even when they were only $100 each. He insisted that it was for financial reasons, but eventually someone did the math and counted how much time people spent switching windows and found that they lost $100 due to lost productivity from just hitting Alt-Tab a lot, that one of those monitors would've paid for itself by the end of January, and a third monitor by February. So basically the IT director was losing roughly $900 per employee per year, in order to save $300 as a one-time expense.
Due to that and a bunch of other things, he got the boot, and the new director basically upgraded everyone's shit to modern laptops, three-monitor docking stations (so 4 plus your laptop screen), and everyone's workstation looked like a goddamn command center.
Hi, big box store employee here. Just because it's the store brand doesn't mean you go to the store. If it's a manufacturer issue call the number on the paperwork in the box. If not, politely ask customer service to call them while you're in store. The stores don't always have replacement parts.
Yeah....HD doesn't manufacture anything. They contract out to other manufacturers, often the same ones that make the regular name brands, for their store-branded stuff. To give a non-HD example, at least some (if not all) of Walmart's "Hart" branded tools are made by TTI, which is the same company that makes Milwaukee, Ryobi, and a bunch of other brands.
Home Depot doesn't actually manufacture the products that are branded with their name. They just pay a company that makes the products already and brands them whatever their client wishes.
GO AWAY SCAMMER!
Regarding the whole lightbulb shit
i know it'd pay less to them in the long run, but I would gladly pay $100 for a lightbulb if I knew it was gonna reliably outlive whatever I put it in twice over.
I’ve heard something similar to that lightbulb fact from rSlash. My dad and a friend’s dad once told me about a company that did in fact make light bulbs that take like 100 years to burn out. But they went out of business.
If these are current stories, I'm glad some businesses are realizing if you make a better work environment you get more money too
14:01 In fact yes bulbs are made to break down but that is also to our advantage. To make a light bulb last longer you have to make its light weaker so you have to connect it to a potentiator, now go to the store and take 2 more light bulbs because the one you made to last forever has a dim light and for the same light one bulb made you now need 3 and now you have 3 bulbs that need electricity not just one, and think what are you gonna do if you already need 3 light bulbs. Economically is not worth it, like the bill that will come after connecting 3 bulbs more just in a room is going to show but in at least 4 others? They all need power and you have at least 3 now consumers in every room. You made them live forever but for what? The price of a light bulb is infim compared to what you would have to pay for this set up and bills. Now looking in this perspective is more beneficial for both parties, the manufacturer for selling light bulbs and for the customers for having the needed light at an affordable price.
And for the ones the say about some Edison's light bulbs to still make light they are keeped light up all the time they don't go through electric shocks like the fallow ones do (for a reason you are told to not switch off and on the light rapidly)
The thing about LED lightbulbs? They are Super easy to repair. No joke.
The Alen story. Ask him to put his instructions in writing. See how fast he finds you a new scanner.
A few things on the ceiling fan story. Number one. Home depot doesn't make the fan it is made for them and they brand it. 2 assuming it's an LED light you don't just replace the bulb it is a circuit panel because an LED is a light immediate diode and they don't burn out they just grow dim and something in their circuitry usually goes out if it just goes bad.
First story must have happened a while ago, since I'm currently a call centre rep, and I get paid more (even factoring in currency conversion) and get benefits.
"If you find that job, you should take it!"
So you've chosen... death.
If the fact about light bulbs surprises you, it shouldn't. All companies do that. The glass on your phone, any electronics, cars, which they also make impossible to work on yourself. Just compare old products with new. You'll see how much cheaper they're made, and die much quicker.
Fun fact: long lasting lightbulbs have very low lighting levels and are very poor in terms of energy efficiency. This is the reason they aren't made, except for specific applications where the waste heat or low light levels are acceptable
I would sabotage the company more by making other employees want to quit their job.
The light bulb thing is actually not as clear-cut as you made it out to be. There are very good reasons why it's better to have light bulbs that don't last as long, and disadvantages to the trade-offs you have to make to make the light bulb last forever.
They banned the old fashioned lightbulbs here, so you have either old stock or the led ones that last way longer with far less power usage.
The lightbulb designed not to last long is true. Back when incandescent light bulbs were first coming out, the "Phoebus cartel" was formed to regulate them. Companies could be fined for making too good of a light bulb.
People always say that executives don't do anything, and it might just be their companies, but most executives I see and know have a ton of work.
The Home Depot story is a very common issue these days. Many companies are making it as difficult as possible to replace parts in order to force people to buy new stuff instead. Thankfully, the pushback against this (known as the Right to Repair movement) has made a lot of headway.
It's important to remember that Planned Obsolescence (aka: "light bulb theory") was invented in the 1890s by economists (not capitalists) to stimulate economic and technological growth. There's a light bulb outside a fire station in America (Seattle I think( that has been in operation since Edison's time. If all light bulbs were made to last a lifetime, instead of a few years, most of the places making and selling light bulbs would close down. The remaining light bulb companies would be making fewer light bulbs but still need to make enough profit to stay in business, and they wouldn't be mass produced, so would be very expensive. In other words, higher inflation and unemployment. The technological side of it is that if phones were made to last about fifteen or twenty years, and televisions thirty to forty years, we still probably wouldn't have smart phones and smart TVs. A lot of people still might not even have a colour TV. And imagine how expensive they would be.
There's quite a lot of information about on the internet about Planned Obsolescence (aka "light bulb theory") and is quite interesting reading, and, I think, learning about things and having a greater understanding of them makes you fear, or mistrust, them a lot less. 🙂
The first light bulb ever made is still lit.
The "they can build light up s that last forever" thing isn't really true. First it's kind of irrelevant now that we have moved on to mainly LEDs. Second because the filament will degrade over time when you use it, generally the more light it produces the quicker this happens. So the "forever" lights are about as bright as the ember left behind after blowing out a candle
Bud, there's no conspiracy with light bulb manufacturers. LEDs have electronic components that failed due to heat damage from the LEDs they are attached to. The life expectancy is for the components rather than the LEDs.
It's kind of a half truth. If the LEDs are driven at a lower power level, the other components do not heat up quite as much and last much longer. Of course, then the LEDs also do not put out nearly as much light, so there are tradeoffs involved.
There's one middle eastern country, I forget which one, that requires light bulb manufacturers to sell LEDs that aren't over-driven. IIRC, Philips makes a special bulb just for that one country that has a much longer lifespan than their regular ones. It also has more LED diodes in each bulb, and still doesn't output quite as many lumens as other LED bulbs.
I hope that everyone is having a good Wednesday!
Every business should have the salary, bonus, etc of ALL employeea be public record. So we know how much disparity there is between the staff, especially the higher ups declining raises.
In the late 80's a Michelin tyre called the XZX was so good that a lot of cars were doing 60k+miles on these tyres. Needless to say Michelin stopped producing the tyre, I'm sure that they could make a tyre that that does 100k today.
That infinite lightbulb story is false. Lightbulb manufactures can make a bulb that lasts so much longer, but they are not efficient and not even bright. It's the department of energy that mandates certain efficiency standards which disallows companies from doing this.
To add to the light bulb fact...
It is the light bulb manufacturers all agreeing on the lifespan of light bulbs to ensure they all get a reoccurring market share. This agreed design is called planned obsolescence, and thanks to the light bulb company you now see this in everything from the shirt on your back to the car you drive to the phone in your hands. Before the creation of planned obsolescence, companies actually made products that lasted to cut down on waste production.
The Centennial Light is the world's longest-lasting light bulb, burning since 1901, and almost never turned off. It is located at 4550 East Avenue, Livermore, California, and maintained by the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Department
The lightbulb thing is largely a myth. 1) LEDs will last an extremely long time if the power supplies are sufficient. 2) while yes, there is a incandescent light bulb that’s been running for like 100 years, it’s a full size bulb with less light output than an average night light. The reason old incandescent bulbs were all set to last 1000 hours is because that’s a balance of efficiency and longevity. “Long life” bulbs rated for 2500 hours consumed similar wattage with half the light output. It’s also worth noting that electric companies were largely the ones buying bulbs back in the day of the cartel, and they just gave them away for free to most customers.
Story 4: that's not malicious compliance that is an entitled idiot, when was the last time anyone walked into a Homedepot and saw employees build homdepot brand anything? They don't because they hire factories to do that, so of course they are not going to sell specific parts to a product they sell at the store. That's why Rico told him to call the manufacturer AKA factory the product was built, they have tons of spare parts they can send you and most times warranty cover them (that piece of paper in the box everyone throws out), no need to pay. Also he returned the new fan and kept the old one? You know how many ppl are calling him an idiot for that? So many fellow store employees know what I mean.
Did you know the first lightbulb, like the original one, is still working to this day?
But you can't make money on a product people only buy once, so they're made to break.
Haven't watched video yet but I already suspect some bad bosses.
Ya light bulbs are annoying but I bought some random LED bulbs that I've had for year and i even have my lights on pretty much constantly. They've gotten noticeably dimmer lately but I can't even tell you how many years they've been in there.
Nitpick on the lightbulb thing: yes, that's true, but longer lasting bulbs barely light up a room.
Good afternoon rslash. Thanks for the stories. Bosses like that should be fired. They're not good for the company. Have a good day
13:50 Not really tbh. 1'000 light hours was just set as a standard to compare performances between bulbs and manufacturers. You can still buy bulbs that last 2'500 light hours (so-called "appliance" bulbs), but they either A) don't shine as bright for the same wattage, or B) consume more power to achieve the same brightness. That means longer lasting bulbs are less energy efficient, cost you more in electrical bills, and put more strain on electrical grids.
Technology Connections recently made an excellent video on this topic.