r/Maliciouscompliance My Boss Didn't Pay Me, so I Ruined Her Life!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 3. 08. 2024
- r/Maliciouscompliance In today's episode, OP works for as a campaign manager for a local candidate. She is incredibly good at her job, so much so that the candidate's entire campaign depends on OP. The candidate does what all Karens do -- she pisses off the wrong person by firing OP and refusing to pay OP her last month's salary. OP gets her revenge by systematically destroying her campaign and exploiting Karen's own stupidity to get a copy of the contract forcing Karen to pay up.
0:00 Intro
0:08 Food swap
2:00 Campaign manager
12:32 Landlord holding my deposit
14:26 Mail sorting
đ r/Maliciouscompliance Mom: "DON'T DISCIPLINE MY CHILD!" Babysitter: "lol ok" âą r/Maliciouscompliance ...
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Best part of this channel is that He is human not a Robot voice
Yes, that makes it so much better!
I love it when he laughs unexpectedly & is all sorts of âwait, what?â
Amen to this
Yes
Amen
As a celiac, the first story enrages me. Those types of ppl make restaurant staff take ppl with actual celiac less seriously. Celiac is no joke.
One of my train-buddies, she was celiac, and the had called about being celiac, she had announced on entrance that she was 'the celiac', the complimentary bread which she "confirmed" was glutton free with the waitstaff as it was placed on the table..
She taken 1 bite.. Was rushed to Hospital in minutes..
Apparently all the "other" celiacs had never even noticed when they were accidentally given gluten bread, so the place just stopped getting it and just told people it was gluten free, since everyone was just doing the "celiac as a fad" thing..
She ended up getting tens of thousands of ÂŁÂŁ in compensation. The restaurant basically ended up paying so much, they could have purchased about 8 years worth of gluten bread, just because they wanted to save a few pennies each month.
It wasn't that they didn't offer gluten-free, it was that they lied about it
@@ColinRichardson thatâs horrible, I hope sheâs better now
Not just Celiac, any dietary restrictions. There are stories of diabetic people getting normal soda because they mentioned it, and waiters, cooks, and even family members deliberately mixing allergens into food because it's "Obvious they're just faking it for attention".
@@ColinRichardson I call cap. Thatâs not how cĂŠliac works. If it did my son would be dead by now lmao
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 I guess everyone is identical to your son. I can only reiterate how it was told to me.
If you disagree with her, you can track her down and tell her BS to her yourself.
My husband, a political scientist, has worked on a couple different campaigns. Screwing over your campaign manager is never a good idea. Checking out of your campaign, never a good idea. Not listening to the experts you hired because they know what they are doing, never a good idea.
Boss: *"I'm not gonna pay you, and I'll keep making up lies about you and there's nothing you can do to--"*
OP: **Ruins her life**
Boss: **Surprised Pikachu Face**
Real 0IQ move.
Boss: used talk no jutsu
Op: blocked it using lawyer
Boss: fainted
Well, it's not like you have anything to lose from fighting back dirty against them.
@@RiptoGakt unless u want to go the pure route (usually it ends up losing to the "villain" in reality lol) :p
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You don't prove the absence of the dog, you prove that the rug was bad from the start.
Renters, document EVERYTHING both BEFORE you move in AND BEFORE your final walkthrough.
My dad has worked as an apartment inspector for campus housing. He taught me that you document EVERY tiny flaw in detail ("two pinholes in bedroom wall about 1 foot from the ceiling" and "tape residue on the left side of the living room window", that kind of thing.) Nowadays, lots and lots of pictures with timestamps help too.
FYI for Wisconsin renters: you legally cannot be charged for carpet cleaning for "regular use/soil." Heavy cleaning due to heavy use/soil is different. If you get charged, check with the carpet cleaning company to verify if they did a regular cleaning.
This is why I always do a walkthrough with new tenants with a HD camera, so they know I can't mess with them but they also know they can't mess with me, because if they say 'it was already like that' I can refer to the video and vice versa. It just saves so much stress on both ends, I feel that it should become industry standard honestly. A lot of landlords are fools though. Treat your tenants right, don't charge the absolute max, fix problems promptly and you will generally have loyal tenants that don't cause a lot of issues. I still make decent money from it and I rarely have any problems, landlords as a group need to learn the concept of 'good enough'. I'd rather make a few hundred less a year in exchange for high quality tenants.
@@bararobberbaron859
Smart
Anytime i move into a rental unit (house, apt, etc), i take photos of any issues with timestamps and send them to the landlord/management. That way I have proof i sent it to them and the issues were there before I moved in.
@@azisles02
Also smart
Slander, threats, blackmail? Man, this woman was born to be in politics. Too bad she also sucks at it.
With her natural birth obsession etc. probably a trumpist
Ha! Knew I would find a Trump obsessed hater so quick in the comments. Still rent free it looks like.
@@tommoore2012 Aren't you the one that looked for the comment? You sure that he isn't living rent free in your mind?
@@tommoore2012 you don't pay rent when you are paying a mortgage...
@@vulcandor2573 yeah Biden is the best president ever !! Democrat cities are flourishing , low crime , low taxes just amazing am i right
A party failing to sign their part of a contract doesn't completely kill OPs chances (rules vary from country to country of course). It weakens the position but there is still a demonstrable intention to be bound by the terms of the contract. Particularly where both sides have been otherwise acting in accordance with the contract (I.e. OP was rendering services and the boss had previously paid her monthly salary). It also helps if OP signed and the boss was at fault for failing to sign. So OP could still have been successful, it's just another step to take to prove intention to be bound by a contract
Edit: to summarise...it's always best to make sure both parties properly sign and complete the contract. However, an unsigned one isn't the be all end all ....otherwise employers would never sing contracts haha. It's just annoying cause you need to go through the hassle of proving there was an intention to be bound (though on the facts OP would have had little problems in this regard)
Also she has emails and text so her case was already strong
Also if it was signed and OP just didn't have it, it would have been found in the discovery process anyway.
@@Cyberspark939 Very easy to kick something like the under the rug and just claim you never signed it, just took a copy to review. Now if that's found out you're fucked, but OP made a mistake not getting their own copy with both signatures
@@SendarSlayer you got me there
I was thinking that maybe there was like two copies of the same contract, one for the employer and one for the employee and OP had signed both but her boss had signed only the employer's copy..
The title sounds like a pro revenge title LOL
You seem to fan him as I see
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@@aaryadeshmukh8262 Iâm sure they do. I dislike the whole âall verified commenters are botsâ stereotype but I understand it cause I see so many of them. I guess itâs just important for people to know Iâm not one of those and just like being in communities of CZcamsrs I watch regularly
Sometimes they overlap.
That last story is another perfect example of " don't try to fix what isn't broken"
This is such a new manager thing. So annoying.
Yeah it's also a great example of why the postal service is billions in debt.
@@mikesch7672 It's not a for profit organisation. It's not in debt, it just costs money to run a service.
@@drakesilmore3760 it is absolutely in debt you uneducated slug. They are running nearly 10 billion dollars in the negative each year. You need to research the topic before opening your ignorant soup cooler.
As a true celiac, I donât claim those first two women!
They most likely don't have it and just said that
Celiac disease didnt claim them either lmao. They obviously aren't celiacs.
Unless celiacs can vary in severity ?? All the celiacs I've met havent been able to eat ANY gluten though.
@@someoneidk308 they vary in severity, but only in how hard it hits you. One of my friends gets moderately sick, but another eats one crumb and gets stuck in a wheelchair because her villi get shredded and she canât absorb enough nutrients to make her muscles work.
In no way would you be able to eat bread but not pie crust.
@@Ajehy holy crap. That's. Wow.
Thanks for informing me. I wasn't sure if it was like how some lactose intolerant people are (including me lol) where we'll usually avoid foods with dairy, but we'll still eat it bc it tastes good and we'll just deal with the consequences later. Or like how if I get coffee I'll make it with diary free creamers/milk but I'll still put in a bit of whipped cream because it tastes better that way and a bit of dairy won't make me want to die.
Does not sound like that's the case for people with celiac. Christ.
@@someoneidk308 I've been Celiac since I was 7 I can eat small amounts occasionally. Some things bother me more. For some reason beer has never made me sick.
Had an employer threaten to hold my paycheck after I quit a job once. Told them they had two weeks to get it to me somehow, or I'd be filing a wage theft report with the state workforce commission and left. Check shows up in my mailbox two days later and one of my friends still at the job tells me that the boss "is no longer with the company."
Story 1: "All we wanted to do was swap the deserts" Yes Karen, but when you use a disability (fake in your case) to just get your way, don't complain when they follow the rules associated to that disability....
Sigh... I hate people....
Story 2: I would really love to know who this was so I can look them up.
As someone with celiac disease stories like the first one can really make me angry. I think it is nice that more and more stores and restaurants go out of the their way to have gluten free options on the menu. And is always thankful to the staff for serving me gluten free food. Gluten free pasta and bread can be hard to work with so i think it is nice that the cooks tried to make a gluten free dish.
The only thing i can agree with them on is the fact gluten free foods can be expensive. But that is not something to complain about in an restaurant. Gluten free pasta and bread is just more expensive than normal pasta and bread. It is quite understandable a store or restaurant takes more for gluten free food when that is the case.
@@benjamin1313 people use that excuse often in Savannah. Iâm not to judge but often depending on the situation which most of the time I know their bsâing I kindly tell them to screw of
I have mild gluten sensitivity, and I was pissed those women did that. There's a difference between buying something you can eat, and demanding special treatment. Stories like this make me reluctant to order gluten-free food.
Joanna Myers - Iâve also got a gluten sensitivity and I hate having to ask for gluten free options - I always feel so awkward about it. Iâd rather just not eat out at all. Those women in the story had me furious.
@@benjamin1313 If you have a food allergy you need to do research on what restaurants are safe to eat at.
That Celiac story at the start is one i've encountered countless times. Obviously there are celiacs out there but not very many. I'd say probably some time around 2010 (roughly when diet fads decided gluten was bad for you) suddenly every other woman was a celiac.
Now, while you can't call people out on it to their face what you can do is mark the menu for gluten free options. The number of times people would ask for something without gluten and you'd have to tell them it's already been prepped was never ending. Funnily enough almost always they'd change their tune and say "Oh it's probably not that much, i'm sure ill be fine". Occasionally you would get someone that would storm out but that didn't happen often. Fast forward a few years later and it's extremely rare now you get someone claiming to be a celiac.
Lesson is don't take the piss, resteraunt staff can smell BS a mile off and they don't have time for dumb punter 28432 of the year.
My aunt has celiac, and in the last few years I found I have a mild sensitivity, meaning I can eat a few bites of gluten, but not an entire order. I have quietly adjusted my diet, and don't tell most restaurants unless there's a gluten-free item. I would never do what these women did.
Don't worry, fashions are cyclic, so I'm sure self-diagnosed "gluten intolerance" will be back again someday.
As someone who has celiac, ppl like the women in the first story make it so much harder for actual celiacs to eat out at restaurant as staff are less likely to believe us now. I fuckinh hate it
@@anonmouse15 coeliac disease is an auto immune condition. Lifelong and not a fashion. These Karen's just used that as an excuse
Coeliac is more common than type one diabetes, so there's quite a lot of us. Ignorance is no excuse
I can't eat gluten either but that doesn't mean I make it everybody elses problem. Also it makes me so mad that they would lie about a condition that can kill you.
Indeed. Special diets are not someone else's problem. You order what you can, and you ask about the rest. They're only the restaurant's problem if someone lies or deliberately gives you something you said you were allergic to
I feel as though people who lie about it make it so much worse for people with these conditions.
I once had a property manager who kept giving excuses to not refund our deposit. After the mandatory 30 days required by law to refund the deposit or give an itemized list for all deductions, we still got nothing. Instead, their story became that their head office in another state had to mail it, but they'll send it ASAP. Yep, they were literally trying to pull the "your check is in the mail" scam. LOL After weeks of that nonsense, I politely told them that at that point, I'd have no choice but to sue for late payment. It took the lady a few seconds to process what I just said and her voice noticeably changed. She quickly put me on hold to talk to the manager, who said we could pick up the check first thing tomorrow. Weird...it's has if they had it the whole time and was just making excuses to stop us from claiming it. That's hardly the scummiest thing they'd done... Sure enough though, we went in the next morning, had our check, and cashed it without issue.
I had that, but for college meant to be monthly payments but they kept claiming the cheque got "lost in the post" I had to wait a month after each cheque was due, and then 2 months for a replacement each time I went in I was basically told to go to my parents for a meal which even if I could they were on low income as sickness so barely made ends meet and they basically scoffed at me and treated me as I was "slow" Eventually I admitted what was happening to my dad who has done lecturers at universities and big events so used to standing up for himself and he went down to the college for me, they tried the same tactics with him silly grins and telling him he didn't know what he was talking about, but he didn't back down, a few minutes later I had all 3 cheques!
The 30 day requirement gives no fucks if someone has to mail it from another state or not. If you can afford to work parts of the business in different states, then you can afford quick and efficient systems and the cost of overnight mail to ensure it is there within those 30 days.
@@OmniscientWarrior Their silly little game was predicated on their tenants' ignorance of the law. They lost.
They were probably hoping you'd forget. I imagine it's happened a few times before. That, or they misappropriated the funds.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 They knew quite well we weren't forgetting, as we called them regularly enough. Rather, they were trying to drown us in BS till we gave up, figuring that we didn't know we had the right to sue for late payment and massive penalties. When I made it clear I wasn't messing around, they paid up.
I absolutely love the malicious compliance because these could have been avoided and the only person they can blame is themselves
(Last story)Why would you punish good work? I bet he was also thinking about not giving raises and even getting experienced staff fired for replacement minimum wage workers.
When time constraint is part of the job, incentive to finishing early is key.
So many managers see "people not working" as "costing money". They forget that the focus is supposed to be on "Did the job get done?" and instead think it's "Are the peons toiling?"
@@TyphinHoofbun they tend to forget about stress on the workers, and motivation for better than minimum effort, and efficiency (why grab a calculator and finish a task in seconds when you can do it with pen and paper and spend over an hour on the clock).
I'm sorry, but if you're paid for X amount of hours, you should work (or at least be at work) for X amount of hours. I don't know how things are in the US, but in Europe, companies have insurance that pay up for workers having an accident on their way to or from work. If one of those employees got into a car accident coming from work, the insurance wouldn't pay out since officially they should be at work.
The third story also qualifies as an a--hole tax story.
Obviously rslash doesnât know the name, but anyone running for public office is a public figure and I wish OP would have given the name so we all know to never vote for her
Any identifying information on these subreddits gets the post deleted. Lots of them even require euphemisms to talk about businesses: âI worked for a store with a bullseye logo.â
I keep thinking that this could be something Boebert or MTG would do but OP said it was a local election.
@@kpopninja they both also won the election while OP lost hers
@@Ajehy I think thatâs bs. Maybe for a small mom and pop, but if itâs a big chain, we deserve to know how shitty they are
@@justicedunham4088 - Well, in that example, itâs obvious that they mean âTargetâ.
As for this story, itâs also a way to protect OP-she could get in serious trouble if people knew she was airing this dirty laundry on the internet, especially with real names. She could lose potential jobs, or her old bossâs party could retaliate. Besides, sheâs a 25-year-old woman on the internet-on REDDIT. You keep your identity secret if you value your privacy and safety.
I think that what happened with the contract is that OP didnât have a signed copy of the contract, so her boss could simply hide or destroy the signed version and there wouldnât be any proof that it was ever signed.
That would only help in part. If there is no contract presented from one party but it is understood that there is to be a contract, the one presented will be considered a real contract unless something can disprove it. But if she provided a copy of the same contract with only her signature, the judge will consider the contract as agreed upon since they both have a partially signed of the same contact showing that they agreed to the terms but never got the other party to sign their own copy. (It also works against if you have a copy unsigned, but not completely as it shows the terms offered but never given proof of agreement to the terms.)
Now, if she had a different contract to present with only her signature, then there is a contestation that needs to be resolved.
The Karenâs in the first story are a kind that I particularly hate because restaurants that experience them often then stop offering options or stop checking for cross contamination for the people that ACTUALLY NEED IT because they think theyâre faking. So I end up eating a âgluten freeâ pizza and end up on bed rest for a week because the place thought I was a faker.
That scares me a lot.
Yikes, did you sue?
@@guybrush20X6 Not everything needs to end in a lawsuit. You'd be amazed what can be accomplished with picking up the phone, calling the location, asking for a manager, and explaining to them that because of their intentional *or accidental* mis-labeling of an item as gluten-free, you've now been on bed rest for a week and will not be returning, as well as informing other individuals to avoid potential issues there. Make sure you're heard as "I want this to be a teaching moment to staff" not "I intend to sue the business for every penny they can give me" and things happen. If the manager refuses to believe you or attempt to educate their staff in any way about the very real existence of celiac disease, then it's time to leave a bad review, strike them out of the "possible places" list, and move on.
Especially because, unless that lost week lost them a *siginificant* amount of money, either it'd be more expensive to bring the suit than they'd earn in winnings, or it'd be effectively small claims, which don't tend to have the same effect on a business.
Hey Rslash, most likely what happened with the contract in the contract in the campaign manager story. Most likely what happened was at first OP probably was given a copy of the contract to be able to review and to keep. And she probably signed a copy in the politician's office when she accepted the job. Thus she had a copy she was given that was never signed. Only the copy the politician had was signed.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, was a weird leap to assume she would find the contract unsigned and decide "oh, I better sign this" before sending it over
The first one really made my blood boil, my mum actually has coeliac disease and has to be so careful to avoid all gluten and arseholes like that are the reason people either don't believe her or think she should just suck it up... đĄ
I'm assuming the boss had already signed her own copy of the contract and assumed she had given a signed copy to OP already
I assume that OP had signed the contract and email/faxed it over to the boss who then signed their part, not giving OP a final copy.
@@myopinion69420 that's what I said?
@@5210smile no, not really.
@@myopinion69420 OP signing and sending to her boss is a given, didn't feel the need to say it...
Yeah RSlash's leap here, that, upon finding the contract for a problem employee was actually unsigned, would take the time to sign and scan it, rather than leap for joy and gloat that she didn't have a contract, seems bizarre
Politician put it in writing. What a gaurentee to win prize for the theft of wages lawsuit. The email saying OP wasn't going to get paid is pure gold.
How to lose out on alot of money:
A. Fire someone cause their pregnant
B. Lower pay over bs excuse
C. Wait months to pay everyone
D. Knit pick everything
E. Refuse to pay
In the Campaign Manager story, it sounds like the OP helped the constituents dodged a bullet with that nutty candidate.
I love hearing these in the morning. I see the notification about half way into my shifts and it gives me the energy to keep going
Iâm the same way. The notification wakes me up! đ
@Tommy Gaming đ „ Dude, that cake is a lie.
I'm about 30 min into my shift when it pops up! And then like 16-20 minutes pass by quickly listening to him! I work as a school crossing guard, so my shifts are short, but when there's no kids, I'm just listening to RSlash!
The election story sounded more to me, like a revenge story.
Yeah. That story belongs in prorevenge, maybe even Nuclear Revenge since part of the story involved an employee Exodus.
"All we wanted was to swap the desserts on the menu!"
By lying, don't forget that part.
As someone who has Celiac, these people in the first post are terrible! I don't know about others with it, but I'm grateful to just manage to eat out! When a place has safe foods I don't complain, I just take what I can get
About the landlord story: Ok just try to find a single dog hair in the carpet
I've worked on many campaigns over the years, and I can confirm that there are indeed candidates this unhinged.
Good morning from the school crossing guard hope you guys are staying warm and always enjoying listening to Rslash!!
"...because were Celiacs..." Isn't this the part where Dr. Who shows up to get rid of the evil aliens?
Every time i see "good morning" i am reminded if time zones because it is afternoon here in the UK đ
For me, he uploads at 8AM
To throw two-cents into that landlord story, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who smuggle animals into apartments that don't allow them. Landlords get so sick of people lying about pets that it doesn't surprise that they'd be point-blank accusatory.
It's a situation where entitled Karens who sneak their pets in end up ruining it for everyone. It puts the landlords on edge, and then the landlords have a hard time trusting others, because their trust gets violated so many times.
For the love of Pete, if you have animals, do not rent a place that prohibits them. Just keep looking for another place to rent. And if you're young living at your parents house, don't impulsively buy a dog that insurance doesn't cover. Pets are a lot of responsibility, and having a good forever home for them is part of that. Don't buy a pet until you have a good place to live.
The problem with that "if you have animals" idea is there are what are known as "support animals". Here in the US they are required to have proper documentation but their use is protected under Titles II and III of the ADA and forbidding had get you into a *lot* of trouble as "If your lease or rental agreement includes a "no pets" provision, it does *not* apply to your service animal."
OOOO The landlord story reminds me of something that happened to me and my fiance! When we moved out we scrubbed the walls and everything, but there was a little pen stain in the carpet. So when we moved out we kinda knew we wouldn't get our deposit back like 99 dollars for it. The apartment complex then said they had to rip up the entire carpet because our 'cat' (we never owned a cat) peed all over the floor and damaged the carpet so they wanted another 1,000 for replacing the carpet. We told them we didn't own a cat they said we did so I said 'how come the maintenance guy never said anything until now because he has came into our apartment with NO NOTICE a few times which I know is illegal and it is kinda impossible to had a cat and all the stuff the cat needs when we get no notice about you guys coming into our apartment' they went VERY quiet after that because they realized they fucked up đ€Ł
I also had an experience with a couple landlords making up animals that didn't exist. At one apartment I was living in I had 2 gerbils and a frog, and the frog passed away about a month after I moved in (she was a very old frog that I'd had since I was a kid), but I buried her the day that she passed. My roommate later mentioned while chatting with our landlords that the frog had died. Shortly after that the landlords ordered an inspection, and after the inspection they decided to evict us claiming we had "rats" which "weren't allowed" even though they knew when we moved in that we had gerbils, and that we had "a dead frog just sitting in the tank" when the tank was fucking empty and the frog was buried the day she died. They made up shit that literally didn't happen because they wanted to evict us and had no cause.
The amount that that terrible politician lost by was too little. This is scary, but for some reason, I feel like this is not uncommon.
Remember to take video and photo evidence of your apartment when you move in, taking notes of any and all damage that was there before you moved in, any repairs you've made during your residency, and the condition of the apartment when you move out. This way, your lawyer can't withhold your deposit because you have evidence to present in a court of law. Know your rights.
story 1: here is a stellar, albeit novel idea, pay people what you owe them. I heard paying people the money for work they have done for you is legally required and makes them happy :).
I doubt the boss signed the contract before sending it. More likely she signed it when she first received it but just never bothered to send a copy of the signed version to OP. This happens a lot in my workplace.
It's likely she has already countersigned the contract and just hadn't sent it back, so she could screw OP but still have a signed copy herself if OP tried to screw her. Always get a countersigned copy!
The first story is just embarrassing.
Iâm celiac and know full well that there are things that I just canât eat when going out to eat and so prepare accordingly
Iâll pack gluten free bread in case people want to get starters. Itâs simple, itâs your condition so you accommodate it, donât make it someone elseâs problem
R/slash, in the election story I think what happened is there were 2 copies of the contract. One was OP's copy and one was the client's. I think the client only signed her own version and not OP's copy. This actually happens a lot where I'm from, especially with low-level employees
I had the same situation in the first story happen to me and to a celiac friend (we were the customers), except the menu cost 12âŹ, and when she explained that she was celiac and the waiter told her they couldn't add the dessert (there were all home-made ice-cream) to the prefixed menu, she brushed it off and said she didn't want dessert. The cook came later and asked her what flavor did she like, and he went to a store nearby and bought the ingredients she was missing to prep a gluten-free ice-cream for her. I guess that if you are nice instead of a bitchy Karen you get kindness in return.
Just because the boss didn't sign the contract that Op signed. That doesn't mean anything. When it comes to contracts the important part is to get the person you're trying to get under contract to sign it.
If I wrote down a contract personally and want one of my roommate to sign it, it's more important for me to get my roommate signature than it is to get mine on there.
And plus it's actually the obligation of the person writing up the contract to make sure that not only all signatures are there but that it is approved and drafted by a professional.
The lady could have sent over the contract without her signature and she still would have been told to pay because that's a form of tricking somebody.
The only time not having your signature on a contract helps you is if you are signing somebody else's contract that they put forward to you. As far as the op new she had signed the contract and so had her boss. And since the other lady never signed it that means she was actually committing fraud. So since the contract was over a payment of money and she never signed it, it could be looked at that the lady was trying to commit fraud against OP.
What's sad is that political Karen sounds like she'd be a perfect example of most politicians
She is proof that politicians need to also be smart to succeed.
@@OmniscientWarrior I don't think that proves that at all. It proves they need to be better at handling people because she specifically forgot that sinc she wasnt already famous or super rich then she needed others to actually help her
I mean I'd love to think all politicians are smart .... but there are plenty of examples of super dumb politicians that get by with charisma alone
@@iggyboo Many politicians may seem dumb, and they could well be lacking in a department or two, but the successful ones always have a good degree above average IQ. Even Joe Biden, which one can argue that he is showing signs the his brain is failing, however, when it is working, it is working pretty well (and I don't even like the guy).
Happy to hear that the lady running for office lost. I really donât think sheâd have been a good government official.
That 2nd story is outstanding đ why are politicians such scumbags??
As a chef, head chef, and chef manager, I know the coeliac story all too well. I seen it first-hand a dozen times or more.
Just swap the dessert.
Then, put an addendum on the menu that states that anyone can swap their dessert for a surcharge.
Desserts are nowhere near as expensive or time-consuming as mains, and a lot of people are more picky about sweets than they are about savouries.
It isn't worth the time, mental stress, or negative press these kinds of people will inflict on your staff and business.
Just swap the dessert.
As someone who is a Celliac, itâs very much expected that we have to pay extra for most every product as they are specialty products made for a rare few who have said condition. The products also have to meet certain qualifications and be made with more expensive product.
I expect a gluten free salad to cost the same as a normal one, but gluten free pasta, cookies, pizza, etc are more expensive.
Understand these facts are different than being âforcedâ to order something they canât eat, but it goes to show that people with Celliacs end up paying extra for their meals regardless
For the contract, I think the boss kept the only complete copy and didn't send it back, essentially hiding the only valid copy that OP needed.
Not just "Know your tennant rights" but also take photo's the DAY you move in, with dates of the day you take the photo and without your furniture. That way when you leave if a landlord claims damages you didn't do you have photo evidence that the place you move into was like that when you moved in. No phantom dog, no accusation of ruining a carpet.
"Campaign Manager" - What probably happened was that the contract was drafted, OP signed it, sent it to Boss, Boss signed it and put it away, but never actually gave a signed copy to OP. I don't think she'd have been dumb enough to sign the contract in the process of giving it to the consultant. But if she had known OP didn't have a signed copy, she could have tried hiding it and claiming it was a verbal agreement, or that the contract was lost, or tried to draft a fake contract, or something else underhanded.
i would NEVER work for a campaign that doesnt align with my ethical or moral standards..
why would i help someone gain power over me, my family, my neighbors and their families that would use it to harm us??
That last story is an epic example of worker organizing. This is praxis. I love it
The saddest part about the campaign manager story is that people like that are allowed to run for the office.
Second time listening to this, after a couple of months to think about it. OP sort of deserves this trouble because she was willing to work for a candidate she KNEW was not worthy of her support. That is how bad people get elected.
I have been politically active for fifty five years, working my first actual paid job as a canvass organizer at fifteen. Later in life my union would book me off to manage the E day organization for various candidates, but I always worked for people whose morals and ethics were compatible with my own, with one exception I detailed in my other post. OP seems to be willing to sell her principles, and this should serve as a lesson to her what happens when you do that.
Just to clarify about the contract, what likely happened is that op signed it and sent it to her boss who then signed it. BUT the boss didn't send the signed copy to op so the boss had the only version with both signatures. Op realized she didn't have the copy she needed but the boss sent the double signed copy to the lawyer.
I used to know a woman whose entire family really had Celiac disorder, and let me tell you, I feel like people with real Celiac should have access to a special certification card, so they can prove they're not just being Karens. Because when you ask for gluten-free these days, people now *assume* you're like the customers in the first story. Or they think you're one of the countless trendy UMCers who affect a gluten-free diet because "gluten=evil" quackery is trendy this decade.
Moral 1: Don't fuck with the one person who keeps your operation running smoothly.
Moral 2: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Even an unsigned contract can be valid if the parties are acting as it was in place (which it appears that both were in the story) but it does help avoid an extra issue that she signed it after the fact.
The story about op who worked as a campaign manager for someone else is that when the husband in this story went over seas for his military career and then his wife dropped everything because he was out of the country is that op should have dropped this client like a bad check and walked away and never looked back and went to work for someone else
It amazes me how the boss shoots herself in the foot only for it to hurt and choose to keep shooting herself in the foot to expect a different result.
Have you ever seen someone shoot themselves in the foot? I have, and it wasn't pretty. It was a supply Sargent at Ft. Knox, during Basic at Ft. Knox in the '70s. He was trying to act like a fast draw gunslinger, and didn't have the safety on. He was in all kinds of trouble, on top of spending a lot of time in the base hospital before he was arrested.
First post shows that Karens are willing to lie through their teeth just to save a few bucks, but doesn't have the spine to admit being wrong when called out on it. And worst of all is that they're willing to smear the reputation of people who actually live in unfortunate circumstances, contrary to what they claim to suffer from themselves. They have no shame.
11:50 I think the contract was signed but she lost her copy. She didn't have a copy until the politician emailed it (because OP had access to emails still)
Nope, I'm wrong. It may have been signed on the politicians copy but not in OPs 7:50
As someone who has worked as both volunteer and professional political organizer I am impressed by any 24 year old campaign manager, but that is awfully young to be harnessed to a weak candidate who is actually unfit for office. I had a candidate for parliament who left midcampaign on a vacation because they had booked it before the election was called, while all our volunteers worked anyway!
Comfort yourself that your candidate was unworthy of office anyway. I learned a long time ago never to work for someone I wouldn't vote for myself.
Karen 1 is the kind of person who would blow on a pizza still in an oven to cool it down.
I feel bad for the OP in the second story, I hope she never had to work a campaign for someone so hateful again.
On the other hand why would you be surprised someone like that would try to stiff you on your pay?
I love jobs that allow you to leave early or come in late as long as you get your work done, if only all jobs could do that. I am also a big fan of an office dog.
i hate ppl that pretend to have celiac being obnoxious make it so much harder for us that ACTUALLY HAVE IT
I hate people that feign allergies in a restaurant like that.
My guess is that she signed the contract but never gave her a copy? I donât think she would have signed it after wanting to break it, she just didnât know that she didnât have a copy of the signed contract or that she had access to the communications.
As someone legitimately with Ciliac, people who try to pull that shit really annoys me. I feel like such a douche asking for the gluten free options, not holier than thou.
For the campaign manager story, even if the candidate didnât sign the contract they it would work against her as OP would have no obligation to provide the finished work. But I also saw in a Legal Eagle video on the film Big Fat Liar that in court performing actions to show intent to honour the contract can be considered binding in lieu of signature, so OP likely would be able to prove that she was still owed her pay anyway.
For the campaign story, why didnât op send all that info to her bossâ political adversary. The other campaign for the opposition would have put ops boss on blast in the media. Nobody would vote for ops boss if they knew she discriminated against pregnant employees.
Author: Depending on the stateâŠ.not likely. The email confirmed the contract existed, work was performed, secondary evidence existed to show the contract was in force and effect.
Sometimes you sign the company copy of a contract and and send it back. Legally, they are suppose to provide you with a signed copy of that contract. Not all places will sign more than one copy, but rather make a copy of the signed contract. It varies a lot. There are plenty of places that try not to give you a signed copy, but always make sure you have one!
Second Story: If the boss didn't sign the contract, OP would have no reason to turn over the work the boss wanted to have so badly.
As someone born with Celiac Disease I hate when someone else who has it doesnât get the fact that no matter what you have to pay extra for gluten-free crap, it costs more to make so itâs more expensive. I hate people.
My mom works at the post office and it's best described as a clusterfuck, I'm glad this OP has a way better experience, it's so bad
There is a legal concept called 'Promissory Estoppel' - basically if you make a promise to me, and I act on it such that I lose something of value (called ' consideration') based on that good-faith and reasonable agreement - I can still collect as long as I can show the promise was made and my part was kept.
I suspect a decent lawyer would have a good shot at that campaign manager getting something back rather than simply out of luck.
the second story is sadly the state of affairs for politicians
Look, some people just aren't cut out for certain jobs. If she couldn't function when her husband was deployed (not injured, not sick, just deployed), she's not cut out for elected office. End of story. You can't just check out as a governor or senator when your home life gets stressful.
For the first story, the Karens aren't wrong that refusing to swap a gluten dessert with an available non-gluten dessert would be inappropriate *IF* they were actual celiacs, but when they asked for the bread, I'd have called them on it. "You can have bread and the original desserts, or gluten-free desserts without extra cost, and *NO* bread, pick one." I can't stand people who use real disabilities just to get their way.
I was (and still am) a total d-bag. But throughout my lifelong d-baggery, I have hewed quite consistently to two rules:
1. Never be a problem for the people who solve problems for you.
2. Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.
I can't recall the last time I violated rule 1, and I only rarely violate the latter half of rule 2.
It's made my life simpler in the extreme.
I sure would love to know who that candidate was.. I feel like some mocking with the na na na boo boo stick your head in doo doo! đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Every time to move in and move out of something, TAKE PICTURES.
That first story is disgusting. Using a medical condition as an excuse to get a more expensive dessert for no extra cost... Those ladies are the worst.
regarding the contract: even if Karen hadn't signed it, if both parties abide as though they had (and usually, if at least one did, and there's work to prove it was done etc.), it's still valid. harder to enforce (as in, you would probably need a lawyer if enforcement is required) but still valid. This may not be 100% accurate/there may be nuances I don't know about/it depends by your district, as usual for law. at the very least, I think there was a legal eagle episode on it...
In my case, I had a contract that had "DRAFT" written on it. both parties signed it. it was valid. Not precisely the same thing, but we all abided by it.
God I hate people that pretend to have an food allergy. It makes it so much harder for people like myself that actually have a food allergy.
( dairy in my case. That means no dairy based butter, no dairy based cream, no dairy based cheese, no dairy based ranch, no dairy based sour cream, no dairy based salad dressings, no dairy based whipped cream, no whey, and no casein. There are dairy free substitutes for each of those, and I always disclose my food allergy to the manager when I go out and figure out with them what things are safe for me and see if they have any of those substitutes. Some restaurants actually have dairy free cheese and other dairy free substitutes as an option, and I am so happy and feel so appreciated as a customer whenever a restaurant has done that. I hate having to involve the manager like that, but it's the safest option. Also, while eggs are placed in the dairy section at the grocery store, they aren't actually dairy. ) Oh, and researchers have found some similarities between opioids and cheese; they activate similar receptors. It's part of what makes it so hard when someone finds out that they're allergic to dairy; they're literally going through a form of withdrawal. It can take people a few months to fully go through the withdrawal from dairy.
As someone who has a real Coeliac Disease sufferer in the family it really pisses me off how people (who don't have it) treat it as a BS medical complaint to use when they want to try and get out of something or get treated better, if you'd ever seen a loved one suffer intense gastric pain to the point where they're doubled over and can't do anything about it but hope the meds work soon and free them, then you wouldn't dare claim to have it when you really don't.
If I ever go back to the postal service then I would never be a mail carrier again. Only a clerk!
In my area, the person running for mayor was actually door knocking going door to door. He won.
R/slash where I work we only sign the official contract, the copy that is given to you normally isnât signed, as itâs mostly a formality saying we gave you a copy so you couldnât claim you didnât read the contract (since you were given a copy).
Interesting question, would it be fair to have a policy that if you finished early you could leave early, but if you hadn't finished, you had unpaid overtime until you finished?
I would love to know who that candidate was so I know to make sure never to vote for them
I'm depressed that politician only lost by 15 points.