2022 Land Rover Discovery Review - Off road test in the 4WD seven seater - this or a Defender?
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
01:01 Pricing and features
01:46 Design
02:11 Practicality
03:17 Under the bonnet
03:37 Driving on-road
05:16 Driving off-road
08:05 Safety
08:25 Efficiency
09:00 Ownership
09:31 Verdict
There's a bit of a question mark hanging over the head of the Land Rover Discovery, and it's there because one of its biggest competitors now comes from within. With the hugely impressive new Land Rover Defender offering so much to customers, does the brand really need a Discovery and a Defender in its range?
That's what Marcus Craft, AdventureGuide editor, has set out to establish in this review. Does the bigger Discovery 5 - in D300 spec, at just over a hundred grand - stand up against the Defender 110?
Does it have enough of a distinct personality? Is it more practical, luxurious and family friendly enough? And importantly, can it handle itself off road when it comes to serious 4x4 work? Crafty took it to his favourite 4WD track for this off-road review.
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Three points: 1. You missed the big advantage, a payload about 40% higher than an LC300. 2. You can get aftermarket 18” rims. 3. Rear load space considerably bigger than the Defender
Interior space probably 40% superior to the Lc300 as well!
Yes it does have a bigger load space but sadly not as big as a Disco4 , my previous car. So I had to go to an Audi Q7. To be honest I would not buy a disco 5 as it looks too tall for the width and like a jelly mould. A bigger Defender is what should have been the discovery.
Do you own one?
clearly he's too lazy. He'd rather sit back and knock a few beers then change out oem... idk
OWNED A "17 DISCO 5 HSE Si6 for 1.5 yrs, 60,000+ miles on it. I have modded it like a Trek Edition for extreme off-roading and it has easily handled everything I have thrown at it, with some minor nicks and bruises. My car has been reliable and I run LT285/55R20s Nitto Terra Grappler G2s on it, yes they rubbed slightly initially on the upper control arm, now have clearance except at extreme cornering. For me this is a great vehicle for what I what to do, a new Defender is not as spacious inside and not as comfortable IMHO. So it all comes down to what you want to do with your vehicle.
Nice.
Simple - if a 7-seater is required, this is the Defender to get. Otherwise, get a Defender. Especially if towing duties are required - the shorter rear overhang on the Defender makes it a bit more composed, as the tow hitch is much closer to the rear tyres than on the Discovery, which has more interior cargo space.
Much prefer the Discovery to the Defender!
I’ve had multiple land rovers over the past 35 years of all shapes and sizes. Just about to trade my D4 for a D5 HSE. I have driven the new Defender and while it drives well, I simply can’t reconcile the exterior. They should have kept the essence of the original Defender and let the Discovery and Range Rover models do the heavy lifting luxury end of the market.
That's an unbelievable fuel consumption considering what the vehicle went through. And pretty unusual from a JLR diesel engine. Awesome results from that TT 3.0.
The new generation Ingenium motors are brilliant.
@@StephenFogarty2023 Huge global return of inline-6s overall.
I have been a landrover owner for years and have had a very good run despite the negativety about which i can understand.thats ok Ill take the hits,
But about to update to another brand mainly due to the very very few service centres in Australia for these vehicles.Cost is not an issue for me service centre location definately.
My local Landrover service centre absolutely hates working on
them which is great for the confidence in Landies.
The king of crossover 4wd’s!
Give it a miss if you want to build a serious 4wd
great Review - thank you! The Disco is much more red-carpet ready than the Defy. Also, it is more comfortable and with this probably the nicer daily ride. However, the Defy wins on coolness and lifestyle.
Do a comparison between this and land cruiser and patrol
I don't think many SUV's can tow the line between luxury and off-road capability as well as the Discovery. I've got both the disco 3 with more than 400km's on the odometer (still going strong) and just ticked over 80k on the new 2017 Discovery. TBH, i'm still more at home with with the older Disco 3 (it seems more nimble and compact with superior visibility) but certainly less refined and much more thirsty. So conclusions... D3=post apocalyptic bug out vehicle now. D5=futuristic post apocalyptic bug out vehicle.
Marcus,
IMO u were unfairly harsh regarding a few things.
Warranty
5 years / unlimited km & Roadside Assist
That’s excellent
BMW is still only a 3 year warranty
Audi only just went from 3 year to 5 year warranty as of January 1.
A BMW X5 is a more dynamic car on road, but useless off road.
Disco has huge off road capability, so the trade off is some on road dynamic ability.
The body roll is very predictable and well controlled.
The Disco won’t tip over.
20” wheels are for show, and silly.
Better ride on road ride with 19” tyres.
If u go off road a lot, then of course someone would fit appropriate wheels and tyres.
Visibility
Besides having BSM and RCTA,
the excellent surround view camera has many on road and off road and towing modes
And the “ clear sight front view camera “ allows u to c through the bonnet, and down onto the road / terrain ahead.
The clear sight rear view mirror gives u a totally unobstructed view behind the vehicle.
U can’t ask for more then that.
Disco or Defender
LR purposely pushed the Disco upmarket when Disco 5 was released.
It competes against
BMW X5 / X7
Benz GLE / GLS
Audi Q7
Volvo XC90
Defender is the replacement of the previous Disco 3 and Disco 4.
If u want a more chunky looking vehicle, that can be optioned more then Disco for more off road capability, buy the Defender.
Defender and Disco makes the all new LC 300 look very ordinary
Row 3 room in LC is very tight, and unlike the LR product, u can’t slide the Row 2 seats forward and back.
Interior packaging of new LC is very poor.
Disco has plenty of room in Row 3
Defender 110 Row 3 room is ok
Defender 130 will have a lot of room in Row 3.
Row 2 seats in Disco & Defender can slide forward and back, which allows u to have a lot of flexibility with how u carry 6 passengers.
Not the same in new LC.
LC 300 GXL is $ 110 k on road.
Plus options and accessories
No power tailgate !!
No surround view camera !!
No rain sensing wipers !!
No factory front or rear diff locks are available for it.
U must go aftermarket for that stuff…
Disco and Defender also have a lot more payload then the new LC 300.
U can load them up with more stuff, and the higher payload makes it much easier to tow over 3 tonne, and not be exceeding GVM or GCM.
LC 300 smaller payload means u r very easily exceeding GVM, once U r towing above 3 tonne, as u have to factor in the tow ball down weight, within the calculation of the LC GVM.
You can even describe the Lc300's 3rd row as "hilarious". The Disco has the best 3rd row I've seen in any Australian Suv review.
So, update on my disco 5, 2 months out of 3 year warranty, battery changed £320, as you say I will be careful with the stop start! Windscreen leaking, £1200! V annoying as it’s normally parked under cover and I only found out when I left it out l!! Engine warning light £670! Needs sensor changing! They say - Reference engine management light on, there is an error code set for the diesel particular matter sensor heater circuit. This is internal to the matter sensor assembly and a new part is required
They say the windscreen leaking. Is v unusual - not sure I believe them at all!
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Hi Chris,
I can’t find our recent previous comments here. 🤷🏻♂️
This is an Australian site.
Obviously LR are hugely popular in the UK.
During its 3 year factory warranty, if u serviced ur D5 with a proper LR dealer, u will have a lot more luck with getting LR to pay for repairs if the vehicle is recently out of its warranty, as a Goodwill situation.
There would be info on UK forums if D5 has a windscreen leak problem.
If it does, go back to the dealer / LR with this info.
If it’s a known issue, LR should pay for this repair, as a goodwill gesture, as u r just out of warranty.
Even if u serviced ur D5 with non LR dealers, this should not stop LR paying to rectify a windscreen leak, IF it is indeed a known problem that affects some D5 ??
Regarding the check engine light and the replacement sensor.
Look up stuff about this on UK forums.
If it’s a known issue, LR should also pay this as a Goodwill gesture, but, might be harder to get them to pay this, IF your last 3 years of servicing was not with official LR dealers…
Good luck…
JLR weakness for towing is their rear axle limits. Can’t upgrade that.
Excell, n the best
Defender for sure
Splashing through those clay filled mudholes will do wonders for the sensitive bits of this vehicle. That muddy water is good to use for lapping valves, it's so abrasive.
A great review, thanks. But defender 110, or 90. Might be a better option for me.
Absolute drip
I have the 2020 HSE disco sport so a few minor changes incl infotainment. One significant gripe is that I tend to always drive with android auto screen open but when you do this you cannot access features of the native landrover system, particularly park assist. Too many buttons and screens to traverse when you are getting close to a parking space. When you do get there, park assist works well though.
I own a disco 4 and would replace it with a new defender or another disco 4 over a disco 5.
If I wanted to settle for an always reliable but far inferior vehicle I'd buy a Toyota/Nissan.
I’d buy one… but… when we hit road for touring you cannot get these later models serviced outside the city limits , let alone someone that knows how to fix something on these cars……so until that changes it’s Japanese ( or Thailand / Korea) that is the better option
They are fine to own if you are prepared/capable of doing your own maintenance.
Try an off road test in a disco sport
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I am a uber driver in sydney australia and i wanted to know ,which according to u is best car and suv hybrid or electric best for an uber driver at best cost.
Toyota hybrids. Yaris cross or rav4.
Kia sporage new model or Mitsubishi outlander new model
Go for any hybrid toyota.
@@mysnapshotdiary for buying rav4 i heard this is a huge waiting
@@kunalsakhuja8685 call up all the dealers. I got mine within 3 months from Melbourne city Toyota. It was last year tho. So not sure if the situation is the same now.
Missed your evaluation regarding " relevant " other than " I reckon so..." Why is it relevant? or not?
Are there Hybrid plug-in versions or what ⁉️❗
Better than palisade 🙂🙂
whoa! it made it through the entire review without breaking down. Mark the moment people!
The crankshaft hasn't broken yet?
@@frankstobbart7942 Nore did the airbox leak or the starter motor and alternator fail but it did go into top gear at 100kph. Oh and have Toyota fixed the oil burning problem on the V8 yet? Yep they just walked away from it.
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Still a school run taxi, in real hard working enviroment its Toyota world.
Totally disagree. While Toyota are undoubtedly very good off-road, they lack the refinement of the LR and suffer from cheap build quality.
Wow, back end of the car looks like Toyota Fortuner, price tag $110k stick to Toyota I think.
You forgot to mention that all Defenders and Discoverys come with a check engine light. The 5 year roadside assist is undeniably essential. These always remind me of the Ford Territory; am I the only one?
No, you aren’t. My engine blow up at 75tk
After 3y. A Mj2020…and the frontshield is leaking. What a shame!
Is this vehicle made in Slovakia by the Indian company Tata ?
Slovakia. R&D still carried out in UK by the British. Tata just provided the investment.
@@GRcorolla-bt3mn Slovakia makes also Porsche Cayannes, KIAs, Peuegot& Citroens, VW.... quality should go up from previous
@@GRcorolla-bt3mn so as I said. Indian vehicle, Slovakian made.
Posing as a Land Rover.
My arse !
@@sidstevens9035 How are they even Indian when they are completely developed and engineered by the British? When JLR is itself run by the British? Tata gives no contribution other than providing investments.
Your logic is like saying that Lotus is a Chinese Company just because Geely owns it, even if the company headquarter is literally situated in Hethel, England and the cars are engineered by the British. Not to mention, their cars come with a British identity.
@@sidstevens9035
U r an idiot !!
BMW & Mbenz are German brands, that produce a lot of their cars in USA factories.
What does that mean ?
A lot of major manufacturers, such as Audi and VW etc etc build their cars in factories that are in Mexico and South Africa..
Volvo is owned by Geely
( Chinese company )
Volvo HO is in Sweden.
But they build some of their cars in USA.
It’s 2022, not 1980 anymore
Things change
It’s a global economy
Great vehicle just let down by 20 inch wheels… most Defenders have the same issue…. Why can’t they supply base vehicles with 18 inch wheels?
They are large heavy vehicles
Big GVM and GCM
So they need big brakes to handle stopping at GCM
18” wheels are too small to fit over the brakes.
U can however fit 18” wheels via a few mods…
They can be optioned with 18s. Off road buyers that can afford these, can afford the optioned 18s, or aftermarket ones. Plus, they usually spent another 20-50k in aftermarket gear.
@@StephenFogarty2023 a land cruiser has 18 inches and bigger in weight
@@stardustbilermam1736
Yes
And in road tests, some journalists are saying that even with only them in the vehicle, the brakes don’t seem to feel strong.
Must be shockingly bad once u load up the LC and tow something…
EXCELLENT 18 inch after market wheels especially designed for Land Rover are available from Tuffant Australia and their distributors around the world.
I have an AWD, it doesn't have Diff locks, HR, LR, nothing, I wouldn't call it a 4WD.
Land rover offroad capability is undeniable...they are great...but..but.....if you do constant offroading,trust me...its gonna break and let you down very soon quicker then you expected
Imagine how pissed off you would have been if you bought one of these, only to see Land Rover bring out the Defender which is entirely the same thing but newer. As if Land Rovers didn’t have a poor enough resale, now when you have the added threat of shiny new derivative models making your urban chariot look second rate.
U must be living under a rock…Everyone knew the new Defender was coming…
LR had a big long term publicity campaign from late 2018, as info about the vehicle, and pictures of Defenders in camouflage etc under going testing etc was being released by them.
The huge official Worldwide reveal event of new Defender was at Frankfurt motor show in
September 2019.
There are many differences between Defender and Disco.
The 2021 MY facelift of Disco was known since late 2019.
2021 MY facelifted Disco went on sale in the UK late 2020, and arrived in Australia back in February / March 2021.
This facelift of Disco updated the interior etc.
Disco is very up to date
It’s not an old vehicle
…and as far as resale values go, my 2021 D5 is currently worth the same as I paid 2 years ago
Why would you bother watching this guy!
I feel like the new discovery, the new defender, and Range Rover Autobiography are pretty much the same things with a little bit more or less space, different body styling and identical underneath. All with less articulation and big wheels. No kidding the four-wheel drive system and suspension on all of them seems the exact same it's just really what body do you want to drive and that's pretty pathetic for such expensive vehicles. I don't get how such a classic off-road company can make things with such thin tires now. I've never owned a Jeep and probably won't just because it's so cliche but the simple basic stuff you see on a Rubicon with front and rear solid axles, front and rear Factory diff locks and front and rear electric sway bar disconnect all so simple so basic and so effective. My disco 2 is pretty modified and I love it. It is so capable with the tires aired down even if I just leave it on traction control no CDL but I have followed a stock Rubicon somewhere one time and the guy stopped and I asked him why and he said I'm putting it into 4x4 and I said wow this whole time you weren't he said no just rear locker and it was pretty pathetic because I was proud for keeping up thinking we were doing some hard level 7 rock crawling Trail and he was barely doing anything. It wasn't Awakening and if I could choose I would take a 2000's Defender 110 Truck Body and put it on a long wheelbase Rubicon with 6.4 Hemi.
I'm so confused.🥴
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There is no new Defender. That badge doesn't belong on that car.
If anything the new Defender is the new Discovery and the new Discovery is a cheap Range Rover.
Pajero versus discovery 5
Pajero versus duscovery5
Would eat the pajero. Has 650 NM torque straight 6.
I dont fancy the exterior 😷
Very ugly car, especially the back.