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  • @MogulMail
    @MogulMail  Před rokem +4551

    To clarify- I don’t think I should feel bad when people who CHOOSE not to get the vaccine get sick from COVID
    I also labeled people against the vaccine as anti vaccine- I didn’t think that was contentious

    • @samdasamoza
      @samdasamoza Před rokem +444

      A lot of people are pro-vaccine but specifically skeptical of the covid vaccine
      Either way I don’t think what you said was a big deal 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @QuakeCorps
      @QuakeCorps Před rokem +179

      You also are disagreeing with the cdc. Kinda anti science no?

    • @deadboltzz5199
      @deadboltzz5199 Před rokem +71

      Heyy you wouldn't be saying that if Hank Pecker was standing right infront of you, you keyboard warrior!!!

    • @rynothepro
      @rynothepro Před rokem +29

      It just wasn’t worded like that in the video. But I mean that’s what this channel is all about. Sparking a bit of controversy. And I enjoy it 🙂 Good video.

    • @CarelessPlayed_U
      @CarelessPlayed_U Před rokem

      If your lifting your mask every 5 seconds are you really wearing a mask, your wearing an excuse on your face to explain away an actual non issue, did you know that even with your positive spin on a vaccine you can still catch covid spread it and die from it, I know allot more people who do have the vaccine who get sick substantially more compared to the latter being those who don't have the vaccine, those folks being old and young, huge L everyone wearing a mask your not helping and it isn't helping you and its literally helping nobody I live in a small town and all the people bringing there germs are maskers on vacation ... Why are you on vacation if you believe so heavily in this and are people who appear to genuinely be scared of the air, it's making you look like a bunch of scared unhinged idiots living out your own nightmare perpetuating the problem your so afraid of, your a stupid baseless bastard highhorseing on the stage of pandemic and altruism without the real life degree to justify your high horsing, your the problem. You need to stop talking your shit.

  • @davisgaming69
    @davisgaming69 Před rokem +4526

    But for real, CZcams needs to fix some of their streaming stuff so you can find streams easier

    • @mhx5071
      @mhx5071 Před rokem +133

      @@frosttaco3540 it wasn't a real response, there's similar comment in other comments. It's just a bot

    • @viniciuspiucco5966
      @viniciuspiucco5966 Před rokem

      True

    • @Sapreme
      @Sapreme Před rokem +31

      It's gotten better since the first mogul mail addressing it, but barely. I actually get live streams on my frontpage now

    • @seven313
      @seven313 Před rokem +3

      You can click on the live tab that is usually in the top near other keywords, makes it bit more easier

    • @Mike_Dubayou
      @Mike_Dubayou Před rokem +6

      @@frosttaco3540 don’t respond to bots please

  • @ingridr8366
    @ingridr8366 Před rokem +2327

    even though twitch did switch plans ,regarding covid restrictions, the tickets were originally non-refundable but when they changed the restrictions they did send an email and allowed ticket holders to get a refund from August 12th (announcement made) to August 19th which i think was a good course of action

    • @ghostlyexe
      @ghostlyexe Před rokem +23

      Agreed

    • @DuncTV
      @DuncTV Před rokem +66

      Nah it'd be funnier to make stupid people waste their money

    • @ultimateid5486
      @ultimateid5486 Před rokem +3

      It still ruins the commitments people made for their plans

    • @EstellarLu
      @EstellarLu Před rokem +37

      @@ultimateid5486 better safe than sorry, no?

    • @TheHauntedKiwi
      @TheHauntedKiwi Před rokem

      @@browner63 Who cares? They're not entitled to anything, bunch of snowflakes.
      They also probably ban knife throwing at Twitch Con, but nobody made the right to throw knives into crowds a right wing talking point

  • @defmonk0
    @defmonk0 Před rokem +9

    I'm on the board for a (much smaller, ~5k) convention on the east coast, and I think the change in requirement might have come from talent. They're the draw, and people show up to see them. If they weren't willing to come without a stricter policy, that's a major reason to do it. Generally, if people are upset, you weather the storm and let it blow over. Talent upset? That jeopardizes the whole event. The swap probably broke even on the number of people mad, but the hassle of handling refunds and attempting to enforce the policy are far more effort. I'd be surprised if a change-up like this didn't have an additional impetus.
    I assume there was something else because pre-order sales can seem pretty low. 15k doesn't seem unexpected or bad 2 months out if you're looking for 30k attending, since a lot of people buy last-minute or on-site if it's available. I don't think they'd be scared enough for those numbers to warrant something like this, since the trade-off can't be that big a difference.
    The final alternative is they're just banking on people not getting refunds.

  • @wiliwillow5555
    @wiliwillow5555 Před rokem +6

    I think it comes down to the area and how big the event is. In the US now, a lot of people are done with the pandemic and could care less about masking and other restrictions. But with an event like TwitchCon where not only cases are rising in the area but people from all over the states are flying in to the event, it could end up being a super spreader like you said. I think the part of the story where a lot of people are upset is how Twitch said one thing, but once a certain group of people got mad about the lack of restrictions, Twitch changed their guidelines to make that specific group happy (which made everyone else upset). I think Twitch was smart in requiring masks, but I really don’t like how a lot of events are changing their rules in order to please what seems like a few angry people on Twitter (bit of an exaggeration but you get the point).

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz Před rokem +833

    Conventions keep doing this "no requirements, oops people are mad, ok requirements" thing that just ends up making everyone upset

    • @Ggzerbe4
      @Ggzerbe4 Před rokem +38

      Yes It’s partly the constant goal post moving that pissing everyone off. The other part is that people are treating each other like 2nd class citizens over this. It’s disgusting

    • @RiseUpToYourAbility
      @RiseUpToYourAbility Před rokem +30

      Because the people that bought the tickets are the ones ok with whatever guidelines were set in place. Why are you trying to appease people who don't have money down. Corporations always make this mistake where they take their target demographic for granted, and chase after people outside of their target demographic. This in turn makes them lose their core audience, and then everything crashes and burns.

    • @baccajones5816
      @baccajones5816 Před rokem

      Hey Patterrz, you know what? You rock, thanks.

    • @VitiatusMors
      @VitiatusMors Před rokem +2

      Twitch just caved to the loud minority

    • @Sykokinetic
      @Sykokinetic Před rokem +5

      Seriously. Just pick one and stick to it. Flip flopping just makes everyone mad.

  • @DangerErin
    @DangerErin Před rokem +615

    I think more people would be outraged if showering a day before attending the event was a mandate

    • @criticaltipper7699
      @criticaltipper7699 Před rokem +50

      Well obviously! We all know that the mandate should be day of, have you seen some of these people

    • @danielled168
      @danielled168 Před rokem +39

      Leslie

    • @Tarxon
      @Tarxon Před rokem +5

      As someone who has spent a couple of weeks without a shower during 2020, I would argue that 3 back-to-back days are the bare minimum to actually have a somewhat decent level of hygiene.

    • @deadboltzz5199
      @deadboltzz5199 Před rokem +51

      @@Tarxon take that to the grave

    • @GobaGNon
      @GobaGNon Před rokem +41

      @@Tarxon why would you willingly admit this. You couldn’t torture this out of me

  • @danclarke6099
    @danclarke6099 Před rokem +3

    Large companies and events should be looking at local laws as a minimum guide and making best interest decisions to tighten those where needed. The only reason I can see to change those decisions is if for example an area went from none to very little cases to an alarming amount of cases (encouraging the event to tighten their rules)

  • @acs_99
    @acs_99 Před rokem +28

    Actively checking for signs of illness is the best course of action imo. People are gonna complain about vaccines and masks no matter what, but most people know that going into a crowded place with symptoms is a dick move and they shouldn’t be allowed in

    • @Senza_1
      @Senza_1 Před rokem +2

      So how would that work? If you hear a cough you kick them out? One sneeze is fine but two is ejection? Lmao

    • @ftniceberg874
      @ftniceberg874 Před rokem

      @@Senza_1 I have horrible sinuses making me sniffle and cough from drainage. Never caught the coof and never jabbed despite being stuck next to confirmed infected that were forced to stay at work because mental midgets trusted the fever BS and said they can leave once they have a fever which isn't a common synptom.

    • @ftniceberg874
      @ftniceberg874 Před rokem

      Hey doofus...you forget about asymptomatic carriers that can spread it which include the jabbed super spreaders.

  • @cosmo5217
    @cosmo5217 Před rokem +55

    This sounds like the next tanacon except Covid instead of heat stroke

    • @DaraxXxDevious
      @DaraxXxDevious Před rokem +4

      the beauty of that is everyone going will have signed up to possibly get covid, whereas the people going to tanacon did not sign up to possibly get heat stroke.

  • @reilly3327
    @reilly3327 Před rokem +1025

    I think it should be noted that Nick has been planning this event to run alongside Twitchcon for months.

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +815

      yeah presumably but he used this as the announcement and marketing for the event

    • @Mazzolium
      @Mazzolium Před rokem +46

      @@MogulMail except it’s a free event and if you watched 10 minutes of his intro in his stream yesterday you would understand he just wants everyone to be welcome. Pro choice!

    • @Broski2445
      @Broski2445 Před rokem +80

      @@reilly3327 I don't see how you are against safety and planning to do a event, this event will end the same way as tanacon

    • @ramiza.3rebeh955
      @ramiza.3rebeh955 Před rokem

      @@Mazzolium You're so brainwashed if you think not having a vaccine is progressive and welcoming. People used to look up to america now you're just a laughing stock

    • @chillindylan2696
      @chillindylan2696 Před rokem +6

      @@syrasmine bro i hope to god you aren't a pro-choice person when it comes to abortions

  • @shironikuma9731
    @shironikuma9731 Před rokem +5

    Otakon (Anime Convention on the East Coast) did Mask REQUIRED and Vaccination or PCR test to go in. While it was certainly impossible to control everyone to be wearing a mask, most people where actually complying. Even with the strict requirements, Otakon broke all forecasts and did record numbers.

  • @NovaPog37
    @NovaPog37 Před rokem +5

    Ludwig, over the past year you've grown to become one of my favorite creators, your deep understanding of the internet and simple honesty has yet to be matched by any other creator of your genre

    • @MassShrooms
      @MassShrooms Před rokem

      lol imagine thinking he is gonna read that.

    • @NovaPog37
      @NovaPog37 Před rokem +1

      @@MassShrooms lol imagine wasting your time telling me that, I really don't care if he reads it or not, I just wanted to say it

    • @MassShrooms
      @MassShrooms Před rokem

      @@NovaPog37 lol you got me champ. 🤣

  • @Jcod_
    @Jcod_ Před rokem +215

    I might be wrong about this, but if I were Twitch, I wouldn't look at twitch con like a money making event. I'd look at it as marketing. Twitch is developing a community around their platform and no matter what you do on the platform, they make money off of you being on it. Ideally, the event breaks even or is profitable, but it isn't a huge loss as long as it keeps people excited and staying on Twitch. The competing event basically fulfills the same function of TwitchCon without Twitch spending money on it and will be where people they've alienated by their change of policy will be able to go. I think it is likely a win for Twitch.

    • @anonymousnothing9502
      @anonymousnothing9502 Před rokem +10

      That’s a pretty good way of thinking about it

    • @Chachixo
      @Chachixo Před rokem +6

      Yeah I think with most huge events like this the goal is mostly to break even including paying the staff. The trouble is that the investment is huge. Hopefully they budgeted with smaller attendance in mind.

    • @Senza_1
      @Senza_1 Před rokem

      A community of bikinis, hot tubs, far left favoritism, and sexism.

    • @_ZERO
      @_ZERO Před rokem

      The sole purpose of marketing is to make... Ah I forgot

    • @bored588
      @bored588 Před rokem

      if twitch cared about marketing they would have an 18+ section so advertisers wouldnt be wherry about they children's game ad appearing right after some chick showed her chevage while riding a banana floaty. all im saying is twitch would make much, much more money, keep advertisements separated to appease the companies, and the people streaming the content would end up making more money because it would bring people who would have never been to twitch to the site and they will donate to see a girl fart so trust me, revenue would go up. the only reason the people streaming the content dont want a 18+ section is A. 15%-25% of their audience are minors B. they dont want to be called sex workers which I mean, little late for that once your chocolate starfish is on onlyfans.

  • @iamjules23
    @iamjules23 Před rokem +7

    btw a lot of people did get sick after eu twitchcon so thank god they’re trying to do something this time

  • @CaiRobinson
    @CaiRobinson Před rokem +12

    Nick Mercs was seriously over paid, I still dont understand that one. Twitch is hurting for money, they dont need to give Nick Mercs a contract like that. Let him stay or if wants to leave let him.

    • @senatorarmstrong2100
      @senatorarmstrong2100 Před rokem

      Its owned by amazon so they have an unlimited cash cow

    • @303TAG303
      @303TAG303 Před rokem

      @@senatorarmstrong2100 yet they're scared of unions so workers can be paid a living wage

    • @senatorarmstrong2100
      @senatorarmstrong2100 Před rokem

      @@303TAG303 unions shouldnt exist.

    • @303TAG303
      @303TAG303 Před rokem

      @@senatorarmstrong2100 neither should you

    • @CaiRobinson
      @CaiRobinson Před rokem

      @@senatorarmstrong2100 yeah Amazon does but they ain't giving that kinda of budget. Hence why Twitch is changing things up to cut costs

  • @Sam78574
    @Sam78574 Před rokem +897

    I’m glad the mogul mails are coming back some of my favorite relaxing content also nice Bo Burnham merch

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +330

      I LOVE BO

    • @Terp0
      @Terp0 Před rokem +22

      @@MogulMail GIGACHAD Bo Burnham enjoyers

    • @eskra24
      @eskra24 Před rokem +1

      @@MogulMail Ludwig used to be one of my favorite streamers to watch. Especially during the subathon and jump king. I hope he wakes up and realizes the absolute non sense of the left-leaning or far left friends he has. There is a huge red wave coming and I want him to be on the Right side 😘🇺🇸

    • @shamaur6951
      @shamaur6951 Před rokem +20

      @@eskra24 “Trump is lord” lol ok

    • @MrUgleh
      @MrUgleh Před rokem

      Bro that shits Hitchhikers Guide merch /s

  • @collincolglazier
    @collincolglazier Před rokem +1937

    Hey Lud, I just wanted to say that your last 24 hour live stream was one of your best streams ever!

  • @YURI-OFFICIAL
    @YURI-OFFICIAL Před rokem +4

    “cant get pngs pregnant” from qt replying to chance has me dead

  • @m1lkt04st
    @m1lkt04st Před rokem +2

    It makes sense why twitch con would update their guidelines. SDCC returned earlier this year and it had harsh covid guidelines, so it’s just obvious that another con in the same area/building would take the same precautions. I hope twitch con has as good as staff as SDCC because guards there were super strict about the mask rules.

  • @gdaw8326
    @gdaw8326 Před rokem +68

    I think this is arguably the best “keep you up to date” show on CZcams

    • @iLL_WiLL_
      @iLL_WiLL_ Před rokem +5

      Agreed, most of this stuff I wouldn't have even known about considering how little time I spend on Twitter.

    • @gdaw8326
      @gdaw8326 Před rokem +4

      @@iLL_WiLL_ same here, I’d like to keep my sanity but news without bias is so rare nowadays

  • @anobsessedfan8140
    @anobsessedfan8140 Před rokem +52

    Nicks event is just going to be Tanacon all over again, I’m calling it right now.

    • @Mazzolium
      @Mazzolium Před rokem +5

      Nickmercs has run multiple events successfully. This event was already planned and Nick will still be at twitchcon.

    • @ImAddictionn
      @ImAddictionn Před rokem

      @@Mazzolium yeah no shit they will be successful, i've seen replies of people getting covid from the tailgate. its a success when the time is a good time and whatever happens after isnt cared about

    • @SevenZeroEleven
      @SevenZeroEleven Před rokem

      I fucking hope so, if people are so mad about keeping other people safe they deserve to be treated like shit in the burning sun

    • @froglifes6829
      @froglifes6829 Před rokem +3

      @@syrasmine Not same time. Very close to eachother tho.

  • @muhammadfahad4601
    @muhammadfahad4601 Před rokem

    Keep up the Mogul Mail, Lud. I appreciate it!
    And although it seems better to stick to the same policies for an event, they can be changed if the scenarios change ofc. And among other things, organizations such as Twitch should not be so reckless and make policies that end up changing. Restrictions and requirements for an event are primary in event organization and if the smart people at Twitch cannot come up with an elaborate policy, then it feels like they need a better event management team or stakeholders.

  • @real_evin
    @real_evin Před rokem +24

    Minor correction on Amsterdam - it was still a massive super spreader event. Loads of CCs even from the US, who travelled over, caught it. For a couple days after the event almost everyone I knew who went was testing positive

  • @dalayneejo
    @dalayneejo Před rokem +459

    i am amazed twitch is still the biggest livestreaming platform when they make the dumbest business decisions on a regular basis.

    • @perrystuart8035
      @perrystuart8035 Před rokem +43

      Owned by Amazon. You need to be amazed no longer.

    • @remcon559
      @remcon559 Před rokem +16

      I guess part of it is the community "keeping it alive" which still adds so much to twitch

    • @nagow_360
      @nagow_360 Před rokem +2

      @@perrystuart8035 amazon is one of the largest companies on earth lol. I dont think your point really stands

    • @Sopsy_Hallow
      @Sopsy_Hallow Před rokem +15

      @@nagow_360 i think that is their point. it's owned by one of the biggest companies which is why they havent fallen yet due to their bad business practise. kinda like the parent company, who also hasnt fallen yet despite horrendous business practises

    • @Elijah-ed5xk
      @Elijah-ed5xk Před rokem +1

      Twitch staff often behave like teenagers... It's weird

  • @BrennanHopkins
    @BrennanHopkins Před rokem +757

    It is really funny to spend money that Twitch gave you to host an event that will compete directly with Twitch's own event, too bad it's for this reason though

    • @nateb949
      @nateb949 Před rokem

      I think it’s funny how people still think being vax’d will stop transmission when the cdc said the opposite. Also, you should see how many masks are in the ocean and forest now.

    • @thalion3410
      @thalion3410 Před rokem

      and that its going to fail because of... you know. proof of vax and needing to wear a mask. we're done. no more.

    • @chumbue6537
      @chumbue6537 Před rokem +18

      For this reason? Why do you act as if Nick is just now throwing this event together? He's been working on this for months

    • @maksymilian4000
      @maksymilian4000 Před rokem +19

      @@chumbue6537 so did twitch

    • @chumbue6537
      @chumbue6537 Před rokem +8

      @@maksymilian4000 What is your point? And why should I care?

  • @rufiooo7
    @rufiooo7 Před rokem +2

    Following local government guidelines is probably the best way to go about it, if guidelines change then venue rules change as well

  • @Piercy0812
    @Piercy0812 Před rokem +5

    I'm with you and not even for covid or non covid / vaccine reasons. People paid for tickets with a certain scenario, then twitch flipped it. I'd say those people are entitled to refunds if they want them.

    • @gatebil132
      @gatebil132 Před rokem

      I know it's a rather late reply, but i ended up reading down here, so someone else might as well. According to other comments, they did send out an email to anyone who had bought tickets before the rule change that refunds would be avaliable to them from the 12th of august(day rule change happened) to the 19th.

  • @skyninja732
    @skyninja732 Před rokem +29

    So he’s running a twitch con competitor on the same day at the same place…nothings gone wrong doing that before

  • @BardicRJ
    @BardicRJ Před rokem +40

    Went nearly 3 years without covid, went to Twitch Con AMS and got BLASTED with that viral load

    • @Mynemislev
      @Mynemislev Před rokem +16

      maybe don’t word it like that lmao

    • @Hevvvyyy
      @Hevvvyyy Před rokem

      That large viral load huh

  • @HydroniteTB
    @HydroniteTB Před rokem +2

    CZcams just needs to add a “streaming” tab for ease of access to find streams, they have a video and shorts tab for the medium and short form fans so long form fans should also get something too

  • @I2dios8
    @I2dios8 Před rokem +3

    I'm getting flashbacks to Tanacon. Can't wait to see another hastily cobbled together creator event competing with an event planned out and hosted by a big corporation.

  • @Tepiig
    @Tepiig Před rokem +96

    ludwig i think its cool that you are interacting with everybody in this comment section, havent seen many large creators do that. keep up the good work!

  • @actualnotanewbie
    @actualnotanewbie Před rokem +56

    You're right about not changing rules. Everyone is pretty divided on this so any rule will upset a lot of people, but if you stick to your original guidelines, all your complaints will come when you announce them at first, not closer to when the event is supposed to be. If TwitchCon had instated these rules from the jump, we wouldn't even be talking about them right now.

    • @nic_aya
      @nic_aya Před rokem +2

      They allowed refunds though.

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem

      Right! If these were the rules from the start I’d have more time to sort myself out and decide if I can attend based on requirements and what I can do based on that. I wouldn’t be discussing this around with people if it was the same from the get go
      But the fact the literally changed rules after tickets had been bought and plans made was dumb and inconvenient, makes me anxious they will keep changing it on me. Not sure I’ll be able to scramble around and meet their changing desires on the fly just to make it to the event, but I’ve been looking forward to this for a few years so I guess I’ll have to.

    • @edledskal9147
      @edledskal9147 Před rokem +5

      @@nic_ayaMany people buy plane tickets, hotels, etc. It's not about the event ticket itself for many people.

  • @bernardwelsh1877
    @bernardwelsh1877 Před rokem +4

    Conventions pre-covid times were already incubators for getting sick easily. It isn't a bad idea to wear a mask to avoid con flu, much less covid. It's such a low barrier to deal with, I don't get how wearing a mask to not be sick became such a complicated concept.

  • @Vincent-dl9zv
    @Vincent-dl9zv Před rokem +158

    Regardless of why Twitch actually did it, cases ARE surging in the area where they're holding TwitchCon. Their reasons could be profit-motivated, but in this case, it aligns with trying to help keep cases down. Saying "don't change anything ever after it's announced" in a pandemic is an easy but ultimately reckless stance.

    • @Vincent-dl9zv
      @Vincent-dl9zv Před rokem +31

      Also this whole "oh don't change anything after you've done it" is such an dumb stance. You react and change according to circumstances. This video was kinda weird, sorry man.

    • @senatorarmstrong2100
      @senatorarmstrong2100 Před rokem +9

      @@Vincent-dl9zv yep, you learn that ''planning'' is not successfull all the time and should be changed according to circumstances in eco

    • @imgonnakate
      @imgonnakate Před rokem +16

      @@Vincent-dl9zv Agreed. They also made the tickets refundable for (I think?) over a week after it was announced. I don't get the hesitancy to criticize covid deniers or anti-vaxxers either (by that I mean faze and the people who support him lol). Probably just the editing but it felt like lud didn't want to "take sides"--normally I'd understand staying neutral on political stuff but at this point it's just science vs straight denial.

    • @rtx-kk2xq
      @rtx-kk2xq Před rokem +2

      What would you define as 'surging'

    • @ryangaire950
      @ryangaire950 Před rokem +2

      agreed, i think lud had the right intentions here but his stance should not be an absolute rule

  • @reanbowlerd5988
    @reanbowlerd5988 Před rokem +29

    Lud this is probably my favorite channel out of all the ones you have, i love how much you look into the things you talk about it really reflects the amount of research you do on your topics.

    • @sub4uwu723
      @sub4uwu723 Před rokem

      UwU !! You saw the post, you need to sub !!

    • @chase6943
      @chase6943 Před rokem +1

      His team does research for him lol

  • @whoahanant
    @whoahanant Před rokem +178

    Outside of all the covid stuff and whatnot I do find it funny because the last time someone made an event to spite a larger con, it ended in disaster.
    So at minimum I hope they actually care for their attendees unlike Tanacon. Well, aside from not caring about masks and vaccinations.

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +100

      His event will almost assuredly be a success... unless iDubbz goes LOL

    • @noamchemla
      @noamchemla Před rokem +1

      @@MogulMail lmao

    • @sucker4sub8o8s
      @sucker4sub8o8s Před rokem +2

      @Kurtis bruh is that a ip grabber. 😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @detters8849
      @detters8849 Před rokem +2

      @@sucker4sub8o8s its literally a youtube link💀💀

    • @dimitrisdimitriou4747
      @dimitrisdimitriou4747 Před rokem

      Tanacon 2.0

  • @Sayori393
    @Sayori393 Před rokem

    My ideas for what is best to do for an event completely line up with yours here. I respect the way you do things and how you handle them. ✊

  • @a.w_.
    @a.w_. Před rokem

    Every time someone runs a competing event to a creator meetup like twitchcon or vidcon I can’t help but chuckle at the memories of tanacon and fouseycon

  • @kr1spness
    @kr1spness Před rokem +40

    Tanacon 2.0, about the same level of intelligence there but maybe more funding thanks to twitch lmao

    • @Jrk585
      @Jrk585 Před rokem

      Nick has ran several events successfully and has planned the whole thing out.

    • @_congrats
      @_congrats Před rokem +2

      @@Jrk585 is there somewhere he’s talked in more detail about the plans for the event soon?

  • @unchartedchartz
    @unchartedchartz Před rokem +13

    People who know about Tanacon: hey I've seen this one before
    Nickmercs: what do you mean you've seen it it's brand new!

  • @chris_vp
    @chris_vp Před rokem

    i didnt think ludwig could explain something in a reasonable time

  • @victor-oh
    @victor-oh Před rokem

    I just realized, Ludwig prepares tabs as if they were slides in a slideshow

  • @AceRasputin
    @AceRasputin Před rokem +6

    I’d imagine being a direct competitor violates most contracts.

  • @Thewallace7347
    @Thewallace7347 Před rokem +75

    They should probably just pick a rule set and stick with it. You know there is gonna be at least one guy who read the rule when he bought the ticket, didn't know that it changed, and will try to get into the event without a negative test result because he didn't know. Changing the rules after ticket sales is like changing the user agreement after signing, isn't fair to the customer.

    • @_congrats
      @_congrats Před rokem +2

      Or at least offer refunds or some sort of bonus to people who already bought tickets before the policy changed

    • @cats1970
      @cats1970 Před rokem +2

      @@_congrats they do offer refunds for tickets bought up until Aug 19th

    • @_congrats
      @_congrats Před rokem +1

      @@cats1970 oh, I didn’t know that! Ty for clarifying :D

    • @Bated.
      @Bated. Před rokem

      @@_congrats but its not just the event ticket. Its plane tickets, hotel tickets, etc.

  • @adharastar
    @adharastar Před rokem +4

    i’m glad twitch changed the guideline, no matter the reason.

  • @aimingstarlight
    @aimingstarlight Před rokem

    this competing event against twitch reminds me of tanacon, the competing against vidcon a few years back. and god did that end in a disaster

  • @zyro_gaming845
    @zyro_gaming845 Před rokem +24

    I agree with everything you’ve said but the reason why twitch didn’t feel the need to put that you need to be Vaxxed for the Amsterdam twitch con is because the Netherlands is the strictest country in EU and you need to have all the jabs + the booster to even fly there ( from England that is) but should be the same from everywhere

    • @sub4uwu723
      @sub4uwu723 Před rokem

      UwU !! You saw the post, you need to sub!!!

  • @adondesimpson6958
    @adondesimpson6958 Před rokem +6

    so he's doing tanacon 2.0.... I bet it'll go great

  • @chalooby3403
    @chalooby3403 Před rokem +1

    Man I love this channel, so entertaining

  • @PureChaos20
    @PureChaos20 Před rokem +1

    Personally I think the best course of action is to go off what the local guidelines are. If the local guidelines dont require much, then the event shouldn't, and vice versa. That way if people are upset they can take it to their local government.

  • @Supersayan999
    @Supersayan999 Před rokem +45

    Will we ever get Ludwig doing a mogul mail video on an actual email question?
    Also if a faze guy and the sonii guy agree on some thing, you should probably move in the opposite direction .

    • @Sets.
      @Sets. Před rokem

      @@Chkprofilename *no*
      Emotional Damageee

  • @windowplant2650
    @windowplant2650 Před rokem +4

    Honestly, restrictions should change depending on the place the convention is hosted, like if covid’s a big issue, more restrictions, if it’s not, then less restrictions

    • @edledskal9147
      @edledskal9147 Před rokem

      I wear a mask nearly all day every day cause I am auto-immune with a neuromuscular disease called Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating polyneuropathy. I have have Covid 4 times now the last 2 years. I am still getting Covid and still surviving it despite being on immune suppressants. I simply do not believe that many people are actually dying from it now. I don't know anyone personally who has died from it in the last year. I am sure some people do, but some people die from a lot of things. We have put our lives on hold for 2 years, I would wear a mask regardless because of my disease but I think it's a joke people don't have a choice. Here in Texas no one wears a mask anymore (except me practically ) and again I don't know anyone who has had Covid in the last 6 months. Maybe it's cause of the hot weather, but either way people are so fearful of this weak cold.

    • @thomasphillips9954
      @thomasphillips9954 Před rokem

      Covid is a big deal tho. It’s bigger and worse than it’s ever been before but people have just got bored with it and don’t think it’s a problem anymore

  • @KillerSam13
    @KillerSam13 Před rokem +2

    I do think we should go by the CDC/local government guidelines, since they would have the most information about if precautions are needed or not. The switching halfway through due to backlash is bad. I think it just gives twitter a bigger platform for people to brigade to get what they want.

    • @knightraithwall8924
      @knightraithwall8924 Před rokem

      Follow the CDC? They have lost all respect after pushing lockdowns, masks, experimental mRNA, no respect for human rights.

  • @talia1770
    @talia1770 Před rokem

    ive been to 2 events since covid: a declan mckenna concert in bristol september last year and a rugby game in cardiff (wales v fiji) in november of last year and at both events all you had to do was show proof of either a negative lat flow test (conformation email) or proof of vaccination on the nhs app. it takes 2 seconds to do this when event tickets are being checked

  • @gar7787
    @gar7787 Před rokem +45

    I think Twitch regrets paying this streamer $30,000,000

    • @Sets.
      @Sets. Před rokem +4

      They should of given me

    • @hei7846
      @hei7846 Před rokem +2

      @@Sets. Fr Fr

  • @eggs8818
    @eggs8818 Před rokem +26

    Thank god nickmercs took all the sweaty warzone players to another building, thank god

    • @thewenzday
      @thewenzday Před rokem +1

      *apex nice try bud

    • @FBZOMBlES
      @FBZOMBlES Před rokem +2

      says the stinky ludwig subscriber

    • @eggs8818
      @eggs8818 Před rokem +3

      @@FBZOMBlES jokes on you i'm not subscribed to ludwig

  • @garretttomasek3435
    @garretttomasek3435 Před rokem +1

    In Texas its been over 2 years since I have been required to where a mask.

  • @carsynagen3525
    @carsynagen3525 Před rokem +1

    AX definitely messed up there. By at first requiring heavy guidelines, they scared away people who didn't feel like going through the hassle. Once they relaxed them, they angered all the people who bought tickets feeling safer that way. You have to just hold the L, pick one and stick with it.

  • @nknight5072
    @nknight5072 Před rokem +3

    Hey Lud, could you disable links to get rid of the bots, or are they exploiting something?

    • @chloemezza6972
      @chloemezza6972 Před rokem +2

      I presume he DOES have links disabled but the bots are exploiting a loophole somehow. Most channels do have links disabled but that doesn’t stop the bots.

  • @dakzzy3557
    @dakzzy3557 Před rokem +18

    If you use the CDC as your authority for health and safety and got two rounds of vaccines, a booster, and wore a mask when mandated. Then you should use that same authority when masks are lifted.

    • @donth8letussk8t
      @donth8letussk8t Před rokem +8

      “Trust the science” lol

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +8

      So we should check for vaccine and booster and do no mask only? I’d be down for that

    • @QuakeCorps
      @QuakeCorps Před rokem +13

      @@MogulMail that's not what the chief of the cdc said?
      End of July no more vaccine national mandates and the August 11th eased requirements even more so especially for events. You keep mentioning the cdc but don't know the current recommendations?

    • @bringabong4648
      @bringabong4648 Před rokem +9

      @@QuakeCorps only when it agrees with them

    • @eyesee5413
      @eyesee5413 Před rokem +10

      @@MogulMail No, both the vaccinated and non vaccinated now have same guidelines. Both vaccinated and non vaccinated people can spread covid. Having a requirement for a negative test is the only logical solution but then the tests are not that effective against the current omnicron strains 0.5+. This is just a thing that is endemic now that people need to judge for themselves how much they want to put themselves at risk. Twitch can have any rules they want for their con, they are a private business and that is their right. But to slander Nick for anything related to Covid when he is following up to date guidelines for both California and CDC is stupid. Just make fun of him/Twitch for using his contract money to be a direct competitor.
      Also just in case anyone wants to say I am an antivaxxer, I am not. I got both doses and a booster and complied with masking for the full duration of the guidelines in the correct areas.

  • @dustyfox6511
    @dustyfox6511 Před rokem +1

    Masks and temp checks honestly seem like the bare minimum to waive concerns.

  • @itsCatte
    @itsCatte Před rokem +2

    A creator running their own convention alongside their platform’s? This sounds oddly familiar to a shane dawson video

  • @juliano345
    @juliano345 Před rokem +12

    I see that Lud is replying to a lot of comments which is unusual. Either he truly believes we are friends now or he hired someone to reply to some comments

    • @bacontheuber2499
      @bacontheuber2499 Před rokem +5

      Imagine being paid to roleplay Ludwig in CZcams Comments

    • @sub4uwu723
      @sub4uwu723 Před rokem

      UwU !! You saw the post, you need to sub :D

    • @bornanagaming3329
      @bornanagaming3329 Před rokem

      @@sub4uwu723 weebs already disgust me you really think this would make anything better?

    • @tokebak4291
      @tokebak4291 Před rokem +1

      Naw He just did a L take and try to fight it in the comments

  • @HandleToBeDetermined
    @HandleToBeDetermined Před rokem +8

    The lineup is gonna be hell for Twitch Con, I presume. Went to a local con and they had a mandatory covid passport system in place. It was a fantastic 3hr queue to get in for pre-purchased ticket holders on a balmy 85ºF sunny day. The first day was even worse, the lineup was so slow that people that waited all day couldn't even get in before the venue closed. If the con organizer doesn't have the resources to do it properly when it's not legally necessary to do so in the first place, they shouldn't even bother.

  • @TheCosmicUprise
    @TheCosmicUprise Před rokem

    The fact that you just get into the topic instead of beating around it is so nice

  • @anaslasri4439
    @anaslasri4439 Před rokem

    watching this vid after watching the bretford vs man u game and seeing it here trending just reminds me of how shit they played and it hurts

  • @Ser--
    @Ser-- Před rokem +5

    Lud is overstating the amount of maskless people at AX.
    I was there the 4 days, indoors you would struggle to find a maskless person in sea of hundreds of people in your vision

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +6

      From My perspective there were a bunch of maskless attendees. But most were masked

  • @rickodonnell2243
    @rickodonnell2243 Před rokem +6

    I wish people could just police themselves. It's sad you need someone with a thermometer standing at a door telling you to go home.

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem

      Literally like visiting my dentist two years ago. You can’t walk in the door, someone has to go out to you in 100F weather and touch you with a temperature gun in the parking lot, then go inside and stand at another temperature taking screen thing as well. The dentist tried to turn my mom away once a few years ago with my younger siblings for having a high temperature (they weren’t supposed to do that) after she jogged across a sunny California summer parking lot to make it to the appointment. She was mad lol. It will be awkward if it’s like that again at this event when it’s been 2 years since it was like that

    • @PinkMonkeyBird
      @PinkMonkeyBird Před rokem

      That works in fantasy land, but in reality, it's too much of an investment.
      You spend months of your hard earned money on a flight, hotel, and ticket to the event. You feel sick the day of the event, but well enough to go out. Everyone is still going to go out in that situation. They spent all that time and money already, no refunds for the sniffles. Unless they are literally bedridden, they're going to go.

  • @vaals1942
    @vaals1942 Před rokem +1

    This is just the watered down twitch version of the tana-con disaster

  • @minecraftguyhampus
    @minecraftguyhampus Před rokem +1

    I attended Twitchcon Amsterdam this year and there were A LOT of people that got COVID because there wasn't any requirements on vaccines and tests etc.

  • @jarkson6075
    @jarkson6075 Před rokem +3

    I love your mogul mails, it's nice to have different types of Ludwig content it keeps it refreshing.

  • @chronomoss
    @chronomoss Před rokem +5

    I'm not anti vax. I just haven't gotten the vaccine. Guess that makes me anti vax

  • @headstand8974
    @headstand8974 Před rokem

    This is like the Michael Scott Paper Company arc of the office

  • @AlphaSeagull
    @AlphaSeagull Před rokem

    "You wanna meet Poki, not catch Covi"

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Před rokem +4

    As long as you are healthy you do you basically if you get sick it’ll be a week off then that’s it they should’ve been clear from the get go as of rn people not wearing masks is pretty normal and frequently done it’s not like this is like 8-14 months ago

    • @drcatboy9278
      @drcatboy9278 Před rokem

      it's just a week off? you wanna tell that to the people disabled by long COVID and the hundreds of people who still die every day in the US from COVID? lol

    • @TheIronSnowMan8D
      @TheIronSnowMan8D Před rokem

      @@drcatboy9278 Source your claims, Chn is referring to the majority of people

    • @TheIronSnowMan8D
      @TheIronSnowMan8D Před rokem

      @@drcatboy9278 If your immune system is weak enough to get that affected, why are you going to large enclosed events anyway?

  • @LGDOTEXE
    @LGDOTEXE Před rokem +3

    hey lud very small and very miniscule chance you'll see / respond but i want to thank you for helping me reach affiliate you and your community gave me so much help and advice. btw i was late wig creator from your 24 stream. i loved that stream as i met so many nice people originally the design was supposed to say short king as funnily enough your reddit helped me get through some bullying about my height. i liked seeing you deal with it so thanks man take care.

    • @cats1970
      @cats1970 Před rokem

      yo congrats dude!!

    • @LGDOTEXE
      @LGDOTEXE Před rokem

      @@cats1970 im not trying to be rude but can you explain what ur congratulateing

    • @cats1970
      @cats1970 Před rokem

      @@LGDOTEXE reaching affiliate

    • @LGDOTEXE
      @LGDOTEXE Před rokem

      @@cats1970 thanks!

  • @Imtimmahler
    @Imtimmahler Před rokem

    Emma and Soda’s responses are the best 😂

  • @trumtrum5510
    @trumtrum5510 Před rokem

    That amount of English Classes for school definitely helped, these videos are wonderfully crafted, presented, and narrated. Thanks for the mail.

  • @Abdullah_the_slave_of_Allah

    We all make mistakes, not $30,000,000 mistakes mind you, but mistakes none the less

  • @hackerling
    @hackerling Před rokem +3

    mask stuff aside, historically content creators hosting conventions as a competition/protest to a bigger event has always gone sooooo well....

  • @Kyoshouku
    @Kyoshouku Před rokem +1

    Where did you get that shirt 👀

  • @susmit7080
    @susmit7080 Před rokem +1

    0:09 Lud, you are a genius.

  • @ThatOneDude7
    @ThatOneDude7 Před rokem +34

    Their event, their rules.
    That being said, those who already bought the tickets should be entitled to a full refund.

    • @fullmana4211
      @fullmana4211 Před rokem +7

      They can get one

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem

      Yup, imagine if someone who literally couldn’t get the vaccine, maybe for health reasons, bought a ticket thinking it would be fine but got the rules changed up midway on them without a refund. Glad it sounds like they are giving some refunds, pretty ridiculous to state what seems like concrete rules so clearly, so people can dictate wether can/want to attend the event but then switch it up after the favt

    • @fullmana4211
      @fullmana4211 Před rokem

      @@Evie0h they don’t need a vaccine though. Just a negative test.

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem

      @@fullmana4211 I think you replied to me ages ago but I can’t find the reply, it’s entirely disappeared and I can see there is a reply from my notifications? But I can’t find it ;-; been having so many problems with yt comments all day, wonder if it’s just me

    • @fullmana4211
      @fullmana4211 Před rokem +1

      @@Evie0h that’s weird. CZcams does weird things with notifications sometimes

  • @nickkarp4044
    @nickkarp4044 Před rokem +3

    I think all events should be open with masks recommended . And that’s about it. The tools are there to protect yourself if you choose to do so .

    • @zachary6701
      @zachary6701 Před rokem

      Yeah, someone saying no requirements is a bit off putting, recommendations seems like the best way to go about covid. nowadays most people are informed and know about the precautions.

  • @saintceres
    @saintceres Před rokem

    I'm just having flashbacks to the headlines from Tanacon

  • @briangarrick9693
    @briangarrick9693 Před rokem

    Nick is literally pulling a Tanacon LMAO

  • @sabiadylan
    @sabiadylan Před rokem +15

    I don't think it's unreasonable to think that this is a response to a couple major streamers who got Covid at Twitchon-Europe. You can make a good business decision and do the right thing all in one swoop.

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Před rokem +19

      agreed but it is important to look at the business reason IMO

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate Před rokem +2

      Oh no not Covid where you have to rigorously test to see if you have it

    • @omensoffate
      @omensoffate Před rokem

      @@Avendesora lol do you know how natural immunity works. I swear it’s like we have never been sick before. It’s been 2 fucking years

  • @AesirMO2
    @AesirMO2 Před rokem +6

    A company I worked at did an internal study and found the temperature gun didn't help at all in preventing COVID from spreading, so they removed the daily check at the front gate.
    It's kind of similar to security theater at this point, more psychological than actually effective.
    Mainly because nobody has a fever for the entire time they're symptomatic and not everyone even gets a fever as part of their symptoms. So you're only filtering out a smallish portion of the symptomatic carriers of COVID, unfortunately.

  • @hooman2459
    @hooman2459 Před rokem

    Lud rocking the Bo Burnham merch.

  • @amber9269
    @amber9269 Před rokem +1

    abt the amsterdam tickets, NL had as of july around 10k cases of corona, so we have a no mask requirment because its mostly gone, but in the US it had around 100k in july so....
    edit: our masks requirment went away in march!

  • @cheesyfacechase4998
    @cheesyfacechase4998 Před rokem +6

    My experience at PAX East this past April was pretty good. Vaccination required, mask required + enforced. And I mean enforced. Didn't hear a thing about people getting sick afterwards. They wanted a safe event and didn't ever back down from that.

    • @drcatboy9278
      @drcatboy9278 Před rokem +2

      A PAX East enforcer died from getting COVID at the con. People did get sick.

    • @cheesyfacechase4998
      @cheesyfacechase4998 Před rokem +1

      @@drcatboy9278 I didn't claim it didn't happen, only that I didn't hear anything. Of course some people giy sick. And, wouldn't you know it, someone died! Well, you see, it happens to be a deadly disease! That's how that works :)

  • @maxwu9954
    @maxwu9954 Před rokem +31

    Why is Lud all of a sudden responding to people. I thought he wasn’t our friend. Parasocial relationship alert

    • @sub4uwu723
      @sub4uwu723 Před rokem

      UwU !! You saw the post, you need to sub!!

    • @deadboltzz5199
      @deadboltzz5199 Před rokem

      He's just paying someone to message you guys, like onlyfan girls he's such a thot.

  • @pagel.6480
    @pagel.6480 Před rokem +1

    lol bro those thermometer guns don’t work at all

  • @azmilog
    @azmilog Před rokem

    great video as always love the mogul mails:)

  • @owenschock1609
    @owenschock1609 Před rokem +6

    People are still worried about covid?

  • @BigGhouseDrip
    @BigGhouseDrip Před rokem +3

    Such an idiotic point of view towards the unvacced

  • @rngQ
    @rngQ Před rokem

    Thermal guns to check for a fever on entry are actually wildly ineffective for checking if someone has the vid

  • @Gamekillaz
    @Gamekillaz Před rokem

    The fuck it baby it's done part was funny af 🤣