Love the logic here. “Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear?” “Bear.” “Okay, but what if the man was black?” “Still bear.” “You’re racist against white men!”
Its been scrambling my brain really. Because to me, what that would prove, if that race isnt a factor, that the answer isn't racially motivated. But somehow, the answer not changing proves... that white men are discriminated... because they are being put at the same level as black men? Is that conclusion not, in itself, racist? Is this not textbook "when you're privileged, equality feels like opression"?
Either that or it assumes that feminists - some imagined blue haired college baby social justice chica - will change her answer in a paroxysm of white guilt and *ergo* the man - the default man, a white man, of course - is especially suspect. Which, love to unpack that too
@@Raccoon5 The question asks "alone in the woods with..." NOT about walking down a popular hiking trial where other people are coming and going at regular intervals. However, women end up assaulted by male strangers even in urban, city parks. So making a distinction about what the woman is doing misses the point. Hiking as a hobby is irrelevant.
Based on the additional parameters he added to his question, as well as the things he said afterwards, I'm going to say he probably thinks Black people are the most bigoted.
There are no time limits on the internet. 1 channel posting about it for 1 week and forgetting about it doesnt mean every1 else forgot. Also he is saying people (men) need to look inward cuz women are so scared they pick the bear. Looking inward when previously looking inward has been nonexistant is not a 1 week thing. If you want the man vs bear argument to do anything then it has to be talked about for more than a week or a month or a year (and it will be, because the internet doesnt forget just like that). This doesnt compare at all to a one week thing.
And many men that aren't just angry they are lash out, loose their shit, giving signs of physical aggression mad about it ... I have seen some videos of guys asking women in their life this question and acting like this and surprised none of the ones I have seen the women haven't been "and this is the beginning of the reason why right here and your someone I know imagine this same thing with a man with no emotional connection to give the guy another reason not to give into aggressive physical displays"
You mean one if the reasons you would pick a bear?!😂 I get it. I am team bear as well. Not that I would beat a man attacking me any less aggressive, than I would a bear. It's insane how they react to that and that they react! Feeling called out and instantly going nuts and show themselves to everyone. Not the outcome the people who started this bear/man questionaire expected I would say. Oh wow...I really had enough of that too
The original question never specified white men right? So why would you now specify the color of the man’s skin. The original question assumes all men no matter their skin color.
ALL RANDOM MEN are a potential threat including young ones that look like a man but still a teen and old ones with a cane they come with weapons. I study crime and ALL MEN are women and men's biggest threat. I'd love to pick a man I have more male friends then female and I'd ABSOLUTELY want to be with any of them vs a bear. But I could end up with no face man here and not speech prof soooo that's why we choose th bear that we can avoid and almost 100% live through without trauma.
I actually had someone ask me, "Well if you were walking down the street alone at night and a black man came along, wouldn't you cross the street." I explained "I'm a small middle-aged woman, I cross the street when ANYONE comes along."
I stopped watching him because of that. There are a few times where he hits the nail on the head, like when he criticizes those in power, but other times he misses the nail completely
My immediate reaction. Even before he (safe to assume?) opened his mouth (again, safe to assume?). My dude, you're not the Wizard. Or some sci-fi truth-teller in danger from the dystopian government. You're just a person who doesn't want their crappy opinions associated with their literal face.
Personally, as a black guy, I think the inclusion of race to the "man vs bear" question could have opened a conversation about the problematic racial stereotypes that people hold consciously or unconsciously. But unfortunately, like clockwork, these incel types have twisted that into some sort of gotcha.
@@Lamonticusi guess if some girIs chose the guy when it comes to some races and the bear when it comes to others it could have been enlightening but Im pretty sure most girIs who answered the bear would have done so regardIess of race. I think its not the most effective prompt to discuss racism
I always envisioned a white guy, maybe because I'm white. Now if I had to choose between a black man or a bear, I would choose the man because I know he's lost and needs help getting out of the woods.
@@tgardenchicken1780 Yeah cause you deserve such respect for dehumanizing men and showing nothing but complete apathy toward them. Only women could promote actual sexism and expect everyone to lick their taint for it.
His content is constant rage bait pretending to be a centrist skeptic. He doesn't take sides, not even with reality either, just saying inflammatory stuff to rile up engagement in the comments. I think he's pretty upfront about what he does if you listen.
I grew up with six brothers, I the only sister. My brothers cautioned me about which men they knew to avoid. My father and mother cautioned me about which men to avoid. Honestly it equates to all men even though society keeps telling me not all men.
@kyradreamer4769 Unsafe meaning "at risk from danger" not the unsafe used in "unsafe for work" (I.e. perpetrating). Just for those who might not immediately pick the nuance.
Funny. When the question was originally asked, I, a Black woman, originally thought Black man. Since the majority of men on the planet are Black, is he saying that 'man' means white man unless otherwise notified?
And thats the ironic thing cause why they’re trying to poke and prod the argument, they just exposed theirselves in the process Cause a lot of them do think like this and it’s one of those things that’s so hard to get evidence for unless they say it themselves, it’s kinda like a dog whistle
It 100% has never occurred to him that "men" doesn't just mean "white straight men". It's probably also never occurred to him that "people" doesn't just mean "straight white men". American ones, at that. Personally I say we let him keep thinking that way so he doesn't start trying to talk to the rest of us
According to 23andme I'm 99.9% European and 98.4% British and Irish, and yes I literally have roots in County Mayo, and I'm also straight and middle aged. I assure you with all the authority conferred by the previous sentence that we are NOT oppressed, and anyone who thinks so is a whiny little man baby
Now you wouldn't be a relation to John and Maggie Gilliland of the old sod now would ya? Fine upstanding family! Many's the story of Big John Gilliland married the most lovely flaming red head in all County Mayo.
@@BeautifulKittenOfLove Possibly but rather remote. My lot seem to migrate between Belfast and Glasgow every other generation. I'm told there was a family farm in County Tyrone around the time of the Easter rebellion.
@@PatGilliland I believe their eldest daughter Catherine married a man from Clanabogan...I think it's just outside Tyrone. But I believe they ran a livery company...beautiful land.
61 year old of German and Welsh ancestry here and yes, you are absolutely correct, we are most certainly not oppressed. Really, these guys just embarrass me.
Heh, if you are in white bear country, chances are the environment will kill you in either situation. Unless its escaped from the zoo, but the question seems to specify wilderness and polar bears only live at the polar regions where the average temperature if 50 degrees F. Unless you bundled up and have a quick way home, you aren't getting out alive.
I had this guy in my feed once. Immediately clicked "do not recommended channel" It is so insane to hear this question. We don't want to be alone with any man. And as a Black woman, this just made me laugh so hard.
I watched a handful of his earlier shorts back when he was a little more subtle about his bigotry/rage bait. I wanted to keep an open mind and listen to different prospectives so my feed didn’t become an echo chamber. But I couldn't take it lol. He's always said stuff with the most inflammatory phrasing. It reminded me of some high-school gossiper who misrepresents a story just to see drama. Also the bear vs man question feels similar to the "would you love me if I were a worm" thing that was going around.
@80nomads74 Omg, me too! I was so hopeful he'd be more vendetta type of dude, and I gritted my teeth through some not well phrased parts, and then he started just being outright bigoted and misogynistic. Dude seems like he has a decent head on his shoulders too if he wasn't so far into the incel rhetoric etc. What a sad sad waste.
I'm a man and I feel safer with the bear. Why? I've worked with wild animals and people. Guess who is far more predictable? I'd take my chances with the bear that I can scare off than a man who can reach a psychotic episode that not even bullets can stop. Plus, the question isn't about 'survival'. It's about treatment and social security in public.
I’ve been kinda wondering this question, too. What would men choose? A random man or a bear. In every hypothetical situation I’ve heard men put themselves in as a protector, it’s another man who is the “assailant”. “If a guy broke into my house, I’d……..”
The randomly selected man could be anything, ranging from an empath to a psychopath, the most humane of humans to the most monstrous of monsters. The bear will always be a bear. It's not man vs wild animal. It's wild animal vs wild card.
Are we talking self proclaimed empath or an actual empath cause if their self proclaimed I think I'd take the psychopath lol. Mainly here to say please do not assume all bears are the same they vary just as much as people do.
My dad told me he hates it when people walk in on him in the bathroom. I asked him if he how he felt about black people walking in on him in the bathroom to prove that he's racist
My adult amab children immediately answered bear when I posed this question. My republican brother in law (not voting for Trump this time!!!) chose the damn bear! I don't understand children like this that can't learn why we women chose the damn bear. Is it really so very hard to learn why we have?
Everyone I've asked of every age and gender has said bear except someone who was already angry about this question and was under the illusion he could choose who he'd be lost with. He chose a specific person.
@@buradi90my thing is I can't think of a single person I'd want to be stuck in the forest with. If the person's stronger than me, then they're a threat that could torture me if they wanted. If the person's weaker, then I'd feel partially responsible for keeping them alive (and they could still stab me in my sleep). Finally, if the person is someone I know and trust, I would never wish for them to be in a bad situation (like being stuck in a forest). So all thats left is the bear 😅
> "Women are the most bigoted group in America" This is some "gamers are the most oppressed" logic Also, how easily an edited street interview can filter people is wild. Yes, people *would* probably change their opinion based on a specific qualifier, but he's not coming at this from a philosophical perspective, is he?
He's coming from his fragile white masculinity perspective, the one that teaches them “WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED THAT WE ARE TREATED EQUALLY” and these white dudes gobble them up 😭
Seemed pretty philosophical to me. What perspective do you think he is coming from? Misogynistic or? Also the qoutes you made literally have no logic, its the title, like the title of a chapter. The logic is inside the chapter.
@@iarmycombo5659 Doesn't need to be misogynistic. But it's an egotistical one for sure. Because instead of listening and reflecting on why women choose the bear and the hold the threat or trauma of s*xual violence has on women, he makes it about his pride. "Women might have become the most bigoted group in America" while any male-dominated field in the US still holds horrific numbers of harassment and s*xual assault that isn't met with any form of punishment towards the aggressor is delusional.
@@strawberryfox8819 the why is quite obvious. Because risk of SA ruining the life of women is worse than the risk of a bear mauling ending the life of women, to women. Its a statement. There are no reasons given to why that is stated. You are supposed to invent the angles they are trying to refer to with that statement that doesnt in and of itself point to any problem. Like calling some1 stupid. The person who got called stupid has no idea why they were called stupid but maybe they can guess by inventing new angles and perspective on how to look at the context. The statement is open ended. Its completely fair to look at different angles to process an open ended statement. Thats what you want anyways. You just want men to end the process in themselves at fault. When that doesnt happen, its on you because youre supporting and agreeing with an argument that is literally completely open ended and doesnt direct men into the right direction which would be inward. You have to give a direction, and you have to justify why its that direction, or you can have no expectation of people learning anything from your argument. And the reason is because its open ended. The same reason you cant expect any1 you calk stupid to learn from that. Because calling them stupid is way too open ended and youre not giving them any help. Would wonder if this problem is actually as big as many claim then you would help in the process of addressing who is at fault and why so that action can in agreement be taken.
Yes men, keep it up Keep proving to women that they were right to pick the bear by being still so upset about it, instead of asking yourself "Why do women pick the bear?"
Poor guy flunked kindergarten. How in the world did he leap to the conclusion that we are linking men to bears? He's gonna throw his back out; he's stretching so much.
I didn't realize the question was posed as "would you rather be stuck in the woods with a bear or a WHITE man?" Sorry bro, answer is the same, regardless of his skin tone. Interesting that he didn't propose changing, or even mentioning, the color of the bear.
I mean, if we're specifying grizzly or polar bear, I may need to think for a moment, as those bears are known to potentially be more aggressive. But I'd still probably choose bear to a random man.
There was a counter question I saw that asked men if they would rather pour their hearts out to a tree or a woman and why. Men were picking tree and the most common reasons was that women might use what men say against them in an argument or mock them for being unmanly. It's very telling if _that_ is the worst men can think of a woman doing to them, when the worst women thought of was r-pe and murder (not always in that order).
The quote still stands, "Men are afraid of women laughing at them. Women are afraid of men killing them." Man v bear was never about animalizing/dehumanizing men, it was illustrating women's fear of men (based on lived experiences).
Men star to fear women destroying their lives. Because they can. The funny thing is those men woman fear they dont chance they behavior. But a lot of those who women dont have nothing to fear going to no bother enymore. They going to star working les and les and only do the vare minimun. Good for them. And good for woman because those men never where men for women T
_Man v bear was never about animalizing/dehumanizing men, it was illustrating women's fear of men (based on lived experiences)_ And that's great. But it does seem to have the side effect of dehumanising men. The question is inherently bigoted. The video Speech Prof responds to is silly, the point that they failed to make though was that if you asked the question "Who would you rather meet in the woods, a black man or a white man", no amount of rationalising a fear of black people would be considered acceptable if someone were to answer that they would feel safer with a white man. No amount of crime statistics or explanations of the socio-economic factors that result in higher incarceration rates for black people would save you from being labeled a racist. Yet when we're comparing a man to a bear, all that stuff is being allowed in and we ignore the implication in the question that while a man might do bad things but a woman wouldn't. Now I'm all for pointing out and explaining the fear that women have of men. But The response of this community by and large has not a calm, measured explanation of your point. It's insults aimed at anyone who shows even the slightest signs of disagreement. Which contributes to the side effect I pointed out. Of course, the irony of this situation is that the entire issue could have been side-stepped had the question simply been the unbigoted "Would you rather meet a bear or a human"
@@nmelodic6391 _It's insults aimed at anyone who shows even the slightest signs of disagreement_ I was careful to point out twice that it was good that the question was showing the fear women have of men but that it was also having an (intended? unintended?) side effect. Thanks for volunteering to prove my point.
Funny fly-eye-anon-man used a color in his rant. He doesn't want to believe women are less safe with men of any color, so he qualified it with sparking racism.
Those are a lot of words from chiclet face that he doesn't speak to women often and when he tries, they suddenly have to go do something else. No one ever said anything about race...just A man. Any man. A stranger to us. There are billions of men in the world I don't know and wouldn't want to be stuck in the woods with them. He'll, there are men in real life I DO know and would try to find a ravenous, cub-missing polar bear than be in the woods with them. The fact he took this conversation there hints at his own or the people in his life's issues. Some people should really try irl therapy instead of using the internet as therapy.
I about died laughing at ravenous, cub-missing polar bear. I don't think I know any that bad but I always remember that the serial killer's neighbors talk about what a nice man he was.
I have never been Attacken by an animal but by men I don't know several times. I beated me up because I refused to give him my Phone number. Two tried to grape me, I endet up in a Hospital.
I hope you're doing ok. This so call "men" are nothing but petty losers who can take no for an answer. Sometimes stories like this makes me hate my gender, but I know that's not going to get me anywhere let alone help someone, I need to be better. Stay strong sister and I wish you the best for your future and all women around the globe.
The fact that this guy just assumes the original question, which just said "man", specifically meant white men... It tells you a lot about how he sees non-white people. There's someone here who sees some people as animals and it ain't the women who prefer the bear.
Oh my god. They are so stuck about the bear. We can't escape it anymore, can we? They just can't understand. I feel like the exercise was pointless, cause they just cannot understand it.
they think our answer becomes racist if our answer is the same as before..... but its not racist that they made it a racist question as the person actually comparing the black man to an animal???
@@sorreldislikespotatoes9882 Becuase Men Rape, assail, kidnap, torture, deface, and mutilate women literally 1/6 women in the US has been the victim of a complete or attempted rape! thats 28 million women!!!!!! & its not even bringing into consideration those who havent been attempted to be physically raped, but have been abused in countless other ways.... changing the conversation from (any man -> (black man)... is racist BC of the intent of why it was changed.... Just like it wasant magically racist when Sunm changed the script for black men to look at the question and changed it to (a white Karen) because the intent wasnt racist it was to implore empathy and get men to understand the fear women feel The initial prompt comparing men to bears isnt sexist becasue the bear is quite literally the better option. Youve been compared to a monster, sure. but that monster is still safer than most of yall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If i offered you 100,000$ but there was a 1/6 chance that your life would be ruined, youd get PTSD, stop feeling comfortable in your own skin.... how likely are you to choose that risk... Now think about how women: 1- dont get to choose whether they play the game & are just thrust into it 2- theres no prize money regardless 3- win or lose you'll be on edge forever, because you dont know what the dice rolled until you die, as it can happen anytime anywhere
A bear also would not go online and post a video of himself comparing women to n @ z i s for not wanting to be stuck in the woods with him. Bears don't gaslight, so yes, I remain Team Bear all the way, baybee!
If a bear would attack me, then it's most likely because it was I was the one who just showed up basically "in her living room", so she'll do what it takes to protect her cubs.
Well, I tend to agree that "women are the second most bigoted group", because I can only think of 1 equally large demographic, and that other one is indeed more bigoted. But I honestly can't figure out what he tried to imply...
That masked guy's spin reminds me of that old Sovjet joke, a news report about Sasha Popov who won a car in the lottery. Which was *almost* true, except that it wasn't Sasha Popov but Alexij Ivanov. And he didn't win a car, but a bicycle. And he didn't win it, it got stolen from him at the train station. But in principle, the story was reported accurately.
Mayo dude would do well to consult a dictionary on the meanings of preference and bigotry. They are not the same. He is a No Nuance Norton who needs to sit in the front of the class.
It's funny these days when literal Nazis are supporting right wing candidates when someone tries to invoke Godwin's Law against victims of violence and/or groups specifically targeted for violence. That guy sometimes has points to make but stuff like this makes me stay far away from following him.
My favorite bear species is the black bear. If he gets to specify the skin color of the man, do I get to specify the fur color of the bear? Because now I'm actively EXCITED to choose the bear. Holy shit, my favorite bear!
We actually have black bears around here (though I've never actually seen one personally). I'd choose black bear also. I actually talked about the odds of survival and methods of survival with each when I first hashed out this question and chose bear.
I just can't take anything chiclet head says seriously. but I worry that he's a terrible influence on kids. thank you for speaking up for women and good men.
" okay i can make this analogy mean women are the bad ones if i just change the analogy and fill in the women's answer myself. Nothing bad faith about that... " It's pathetic how much they keep choosing to not get it. Or more likely they do get it but need to convince the idiots so they watch their channel.
It's not about race, it's about gender. The weird guy with whatever tf that is over his face is attempting and failing to make the demographic with the most power who has done the most harm to everyone else the "true" victim. It is absurd, and would be laughable if not for the menacing tone. All he accomplished is to make my exile to the woods with a bear sound even more appealing.
Here's a thought, just maybe if more men (and some women) would actually use common sense, decency, and had the thought of how would I like to be treated this way, in a society that some have been taught that might is right, and that they're privileged to take whatever they want. Women would feel more comfortable around them, more so then a "wild" animal that often will follow a set pattern, that we can have strategies to counter. And most animals don't play mind games ( some cats do though).
I think it was on Cyzor's channel that it was said that isn't it interesting that the question posed is whether you want to BE in the woods with bear or man but the guys that are outraged women choose bear automatically act like the question is asking about being attacked. Like coexisting isn't even possible. Regardless of the phrasing, I choose bear. A quick death is an easy choice. And if I survive? I have a great story.
Oh, that mask guy. He used to pop up in my feed quite frequently after I watched one of his shorts. I ended up doing a "Don't Recommend This Channel" on him because he had just soooo many bad takes on sooo many things.
Man vs Bear. Which one is statistically FAR MORE LIKELY to: Rape? Torture? Sexually Assault? Kill/Murder? California just had the first death by bear in the state's history. (A Black bear, if it matters.) In the first 3 months of this year alone, Los Angeles, CA - just one city in CA - had 147 murders. Approximately 81% of murders are commited by men, so that's 119 murders committed by men just in LA, just this year, vs. 1 killer bear in 174 years of California statehood. Yeah, I'ma gonna trust random bears, even if they're - *gasp* - Black bears, on average more than random guys in the middle of the forest.
Woah! Backupbackupbackup...woah...stop. Sorry, I have to speak louder, because I am a woman. Sorry, I have to compose myself, because I am a woman. Sorry, I have to speak in a way that will not offend anyone, because I am a woman. WTFudge, now I have to be sorry because the "bear question" is racist? Have I not apologised enough for being a woman?
If someone says they're afraid of me or upset in some way, my first reaction isn't, "Why are you trying to undermine my place in society?!" What I'm thinking is, "hmm, that doesn't sound like me..." and I say, "I'm sorry if I gave off that impression. I didn't mean to. Can you tell me more so we can clear the air?" That usually lets the other person know that it's a misunderstanding, and I learn more about where they're coming from so I can be clearer next time. 😊
I’m still choosing the bear. Ethnicity of the man is irrelevant. That doesn’t mean I think straight men of European descent are “subhuman” - what a wild take. It just means that - in my experience growing up in a farming family in rural Australia - animals are easier to read and more predictable. 🤷🏻♀️
What if it’s a black bear or a black man, but the black man has his most recent demo tape and he really wants you to listen to it? Note: the black bear also has a demo tape, but it’s a CD and so you aren’t sure if the black bear was totally clear on the instructions but that’s okay because the stereo has both a tape and a CD player.
The bear easily! Both because of the random man in the woods or a bear question and because I'd be genuinely interested in how a bear made a demo tape with a CD. I see it as a valuable chance to learn about bear music!
*Stranger Danger.* Since at least the 1980s there was a huge omnipresent campaign to warn children about strangers. It was strangers, not strange men, but the icon was a masculine silhouette in a hat and trench coat. And part of it was usually that kids were advised if they were lost or in trouble to try to find a police officer, store clerk, a mom, or a woman to help, so the vibe was definitely that male strangers were the real threat. Strange men are hunting you, and actively want to catch you and hurt you in vague unspecified ways. If you grew up or camped in bear country you may also have seen an educational program about avoiding the danger of bears and other animals when camping or in the woods. Things like be noisy so the bears hear you coming and avoid you. Never approach a bear, especially a cub. Safe storage of food and whatnot. The vibe here is that bears live in the woods, so be Bear Aware. But also that bears are working on the "don't start no trouble won't be no trouble" principle. At some point the socialization of boys shifts and they are considered cowards if they are too cautious of strangers as adults. But the socialization of women never refutes the Stranger Danger we learned as kids. We are warned that strange men are dangerous. Stories of Ted Bundy faking an injury or disability to get women to let their guard down, warning us that even the most harmless seeming man could be a predator. I bet if you give a LLM the Stranger Danger educational material and the Bear Aware educational material, and then ask it "is it safer to be in the woods with a bear or a strange man" even the computer would pick the man.
My personal takeaway from most of this (as someone who got the "be bear aware" stuff taught to me) is that people underestimate how fucking scary bears can be.
@@a_worldly_man Heck yeah. We had a wood heater, with a small stack of firewood right outside the front door for easy access. One night my mom opened the door to grab more wood . . . and there was a black bear sitting on the woodpile. Slammed the door. We're looking out through the big glass picture window and there are SIX black bears of various sizes in the yard. Must have been a family reunion or something. The only thing keeping them on the other side of the glass is that they are okay staying on their side. They are big, muscular and scary. OTOH, if she'd opened the door and there had been a strange man sitting on the woodpile that would have been pretty scary too. And then if we'd looked out the window and there were six strangers just hanging out in our yard for no apparent reason? Nope. Though I guess we could have called the police then. Or not, because we'd probably be in a horror movie.
Those kind of men never prove their point. What they do prove is that their response is about entitlement from day 1. Thank you Speech Prof for sharing what should be common sense yet again. 😌
This risk distribution between men and bears is different. 100 percent of bears pose a certain danger, but if you know how, you can usually avoid them. 99 percent of men are harmless, but the dangerous 1 percent is significantly more dangerous than a bear, because you can't just scare them away with loud noises.
Someone or someTHING is making these videos visible and I don't think it's just an algorithm. I follow hundreds of art accounts that make engaging and fascinating content, lots of comedians with thousands of followers and NONE of them get the engagement or eyes on them that these accounts do. The idiots that make and follow this stuff are a loud, scary, and often violent chunk of men, but they aren't a majority, not by far, not even in conservative circles. But if something doesn't change soon, they will look like the majority and everyone who is pushing back will be part of a group that is made to look like they're fighting against equality. But I wonder if giving them screen time as a reaction is part of the plan?
If none of us hunt down fly-eye-anon-man's channel, instead satisfying our funny bone laughing at him here, it's all good. We should be aware it's happening, but don't need to engage the insanity.
That's exactly what happens, people who post outrageous and offensive things get a lot of engagement because people click on it and watch it and comment on it because they want to rebut it or say how stupid it is, but that just drives the algorithm to recommend it to more people. Better option is to engage here on SpeechProf's channel, and if you get recommended any of the originals, don't engage, and tell CZcams to stop recommending them.
I read a post online written by a transperson who was a bit uncomfortable with the bear man thing, and they brought up the black man thing. They also talked about how fear has been weaponized against black men by white woman.
Love the logic here.
“Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear?”
“Bear.”
“Okay, but what if the man was black?”
“Still bear.”
“You’re racist against white men!”
Its been scrambling my brain really. Because to me, what that would prove, if that race isnt a factor, that the answer isn't racially motivated. But somehow, the answer not changing proves... that white men are discriminated... because they are being put at the same level as black men? Is that conclusion not, in itself, racist? Is this not textbook "when you're privileged, equality feels like opression"?
@@moniquita720 The line of thinking just makes my brain hurt. But the conclusion itself isn’t flattering regardless of the thought process.
@@animeotaku307 it gives me strong 'it cant be ME mummy told me I'm perfect!' vibes
Either that or it assumes that feminists - some imagined blue haired college baby social justice chica - will change her answer in a paroxysm of white guilt and *ergo* the man - the default man, a white man, of course - is especially suspect. Which, love to unpack that too
That just means you're racist against Black men, though. It's still a problem, albeit for different reasons
As a man, I'd also rather encounter a bear in the woods than a random dude I don't know. Bears are more consistent in their behavior.
Bears aint drunk and packing heat. Just my experience living in the country during hunting season.
Right? It's literally safer for all humans, statistically since some will have a bad time, to run into a random bear.
So if you go hiking and meet another hiker in the woods, you are more scared than meeting a bear? Sure....
@@Raccoon5That's not the question, my dude. You're asking a different question.
@@Raccoon5 The question asks "alone in the woods with..." NOT about walking down a popular hiking trial where other people are coming and going at regular intervals.
However, women end up assaulted by male strangers even in urban, city parks. So making a distinction about what the woman is doing misses the point. Hiking as a hobby is irrelevant.
If women are the second most bigoted, who’s the first? 🥴
Men?
Right? The dumbest statement 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Based on the additional parameters he added to his question, as well as the things he said afterwards, I'm going to say he probably thinks Black people are the most bigoted.
me.
Not men, just me.
I feel like he'll say gay people or something along those lines.
These guys really be like: "You're more afraid of men? Well, let me show you how right you are to feel that way!"
Nailed it!
lol, justifying the response of women. And the point is lost on the guy in the mask.
Yup that is exactly what he is doing.
He must be really flexible with all that reaching
The mental gymnastics keep him fit
They call him Mr Fantastic, but not for the reasons he believes.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looking for love, spewing hate
The meat riding keeps him fit
The fact we talked about man vs bear for like one week and they’re still angry about it is why I pick the bear 🤷♀️
There are no time limits on the internet. 1 channel posting about it for 1 week and forgetting about it doesnt mean every1 else forgot.
Also he is saying people (men) need to look inward cuz women are so scared they pick the bear. Looking inward when previously looking inward has been nonexistant is not a 1 week thing. If you want the man vs bear argument to do anything then it has to be talked about for more than a week or a month or a year (and it will be, because the internet doesnt forget just like that).
This doesnt compare at all to a one week thing.
And many men that aren't just angry they are lash out, loose their shit, giving signs of physical aggression mad about it ... I have seen some videos of guys asking women in their life this question and acting like this and surprised none of the ones I have seen the women haven't been "and this is the beginning of the reason why right here and your someone I know imagine this same thing with a man with no emotional connection to give the guy another reason not to give into aggressive physical displays"
@@iarmycombo5659women have been telling us for, at the very minimum, 100 years.
Yeah, I forgot about that last week
You mean one if the reasons you would pick a bear?!😂 I get it.
I am team bear as well. Not that I would beat a man attacking me any less aggressive, than I would a bear.
It's insane how they react to that and that they react! Feeling called out and instantly going nuts and show themselves to everyone. Not the outcome the people who started this bear/man questionaire expected I would say.
Oh wow...I really had enough of that too
The original question never specified white men right? So why would you now specify the color of the man’s skin. The original question assumes all men no matter their skin color.
I'd be more concerned about the color of the bear. Team Panda! ☮️🌈 💙
@@rwedereyet yeah definetly not choosing a polar bear
@@rwedereyetDefinitely! A white bear (though not typically found in the woods), is 100% the worst kind of bear to run into other than a mom with cubs
ALL RANDOM MEN are a potential threat including young ones that look like a man but still a teen and old ones with a cane they come with weapons. I study crime and ALL MEN are women and men's biggest threat. I'd love to pick a man I have more male friends then female and I'd ABSOLUTELY want to be with any of them vs a bear. But I could end up with no face man here and not speech prof soooo that's why we choose th bear that we can avoid and almost 100% live through without trauma.
@@rwedereyetA panda is more than capable of murder.
I actually had someone ask me, "Well if you were walking down the street alone at night and a black man came along, wouldn't you cross the street."
I explained "I'm a small middle-aged woman, I cross the street when ANYONE comes along."
If I'm walking alone at night and anything resembling a human male comes along, I won't stick around long enough to see what race he is.
It's still racist, regardless of how you might try to justify it.
I'm sad to say this, but you got a messed up society...
He knows he's wrong. He's too ashamed to show his face.
He has a point. You just can't see it because the mask covers the top of his head.
They never know they're wrong. He hides his face because he thinks he's going to be persecuted for his opinion.
@@dragonreborn56789 Him probably: "Why do all these women hate me because I am a man doing man things? Don't they know I'm superior?"
I stopped watching him because of that. There are a few times where he hits the nail on the head, like when he criticizes those in power, but other times he misses the nail completely
My immediate reaction. Even before he (safe to assume?) opened his mouth (again, safe to assume?). My dude, you're not the Wizard. Or some sci-fi truth-teller in danger from the dystopian government. You're just a person who doesn't want their crappy opinions associated with their literal face.
Really cool how the guy you're responding to decided to add race to the racially agnostic question.
Personally, as a black guy, I think the inclusion of race to the "man vs bear" question could have opened a conversation about the problematic racial stereotypes that people hold consciously or unconsciously.
But unfortunately, like clockwork, these incel types have twisted that into some sort of gotcha.
@@Lamonticus I do agree
@@Lamonticusi guess if some girIs chose the guy when it comes to some races and the bear when it comes to others it could have been enlightening but Im pretty sure most girIs who answered the bear would have done so regardIess of race. I think its not the most effective prompt to discuss racism
I always envisioned a white guy, maybe because I'm white. Now if I had to choose between a black man or a bear, I would choose the man because I know he's lost and needs help getting out of the woods.
@@shelbyonehalfkind of a problematic answer within itself.
Demonstrating why women preferring the bear.
And the bear doesn't talk down to them or skew their response.
Yep, you are so right.😊
When I told my dad about the man vs bear interviews, he _immediately_ guessed that everyone picked the bear. No contest.
@@tgardenchicken1780 Yeah cause you deserve such respect for dehumanizing men and showing nothing but complete apathy toward them.
Only women could promote actual sexism and expect everyone to lick their taint for it.
@@atlander4204your dad is a wise man
He's just cashing in on outrage-porn.
rage bait gets the clicks
His content is constant rage bait pretending to be a centrist skeptic. He doesn't take sides, not even with reality either, just saying inflammatory stuff to rile up engagement in the comments.
I think he's pretty upfront about what he does if you listen.
"Stop it. Get some help."
I grew up with six brothers, I the only sister. My brothers cautioned me about which men they knew to avoid. My father and mother cautioned me about which men to avoid. Honestly it equates to all men even though society keeps telling me not all men.
Legit. I've made a similar experience with my father. It's the unfortunate thing of "it might not be all, but it can be any".
@@strawberryfox8819The phrase I personally use is that not every man is dangerous but every woman is unsafe.
@kyradreamer4769 Unsafe meaning "at risk from danger" not the unsafe used in "unsafe for work" (I.e. perpetrating). Just for those who might not immediately pick the nuance.
@@kathydurow6814 Thank you, I didn't even think to clarify :)
Same with me but i have two older brothers
Funny. When the question was originally asked, I, a Black woman, originally thought Black man. Since the majority of men on the planet are Black, is he saying that 'man' means white man unless otherwise notified?
And thats the ironic thing cause why they’re trying to poke and prod the argument, they just exposed theirselves in the process
Cause a lot of them do think like this and it’s one of those things that’s so hard to get evidence for unless they say it themselves, it’s kinda like a dog whistle
It 100% has never occurred to him that "men" doesn't just mean "white straight men". It's probably also never occurred to him that "people" doesn't just mean "straight white men". American ones, at that.
Personally I say we let him keep thinking that way so he doesn't start trying to talk to the rest of us
Hold up, the majority of men on the planet are black?? I thought it would be Asian/yellow. Mind genuinely blown 🤯
@outdoorscholar6016 ...white men are the minority on the world stage but are overrepresented in history and media.
No, you're right. It would be asian. Asian people are about 60% of the world's population @outdoorscholar6016
"How can I make this all about how I'm the victim." - That guy
Omg I didn’t think the male response to this question could get worse, then….
According to 23andme I'm 99.9% European and 98.4% British and Irish, and yes I literally have roots in County Mayo, and I'm also straight and middle aged. I assure you with all the authority conferred by the previous sentence that we are NOT oppressed, and anyone who thinks so is a whiny little man baby
Thank you!!❤️🤗🐝
Now you wouldn't be a relation to John and Maggie Gilliland of the old sod now would ya? Fine upstanding family! Many's the story of Big John Gilliland married the most lovely flaming red head in all County Mayo.
@@BeautifulKittenOfLove Possibly but rather remote. My lot seem to migrate between Belfast and Glasgow every other generation. I'm told there was a family farm in County Tyrone around the time of the Easter rebellion.
@@PatGilliland I believe their eldest daughter Catherine married a man from Clanabogan...I think it's just outside Tyrone. But I believe they ran a livery company...beautiful land.
61 year old of German and Welsh ancestry here and yes, you are absolutely correct, we are most certainly not oppressed. Really, these guys just embarrass me.
The color of the man makes little difference. The color of the bear makes the difference! If it’s a white bear, I’m 100% choosing the man.
Heh, if you are in white bear country, chances are the environment will kill you in either situation. Unless its escaped from the zoo, but the question seems to specify wilderness and polar bears only live at the polar regions where the average temperature if 50 degrees F. Unless you bundled up and have a quick way home, you aren't getting out alive.
Exactly! As a woman, my prefrences are misc bear > random dude of any particular race > polar bear. That would probably be safest
I had this guy in my feed once. Immediately clicked "do not recommended channel"
It is so insane to hear this question. We don't want to be alone with any man. And as a Black woman, this just made me laugh so hard.
I watched a handful of his earlier shorts back when he was a little more subtle about his bigotry/rage bait. I wanted to keep an open mind and listen to different prospectives so my feed didn’t become an echo chamber. But I couldn't take it lol. He's always said stuff with the most inflammatory phrasing. It reminded me of some high-school gossiper who misrepresents a story just to see drama.
Also the bear vs man question feels similar to the "would you love me if I were a worm" thing that was going around.
@80nomads74 Omg, me too! I was so hopeful he'd be more vendetta type of dude, and I gritted my teeth through some not well phrased parts, and then he started just being outright bigoted and misogynistic. Dude seems like he has a decent head on his shoulders too if he wasn't so far into the incel rhetoric etc. What a sad sad waste.
Honestly, I feel enthused that he is so afraid of women responding he's making these statements anonymously. We're making them quake 😎
I'm a man and I feel safer with the bear. Why? I've worked with wild animals and people. Guess who is far more predictable? I'd take my chances with the bear that I can scare off than a man who can reach a psychotic episode that not even bullets can stop. Plus, the question isn't about 'survival'. It's about treatment and social security in public.
The worst a bear will do is kill me.
@@miss_shigatsu Yeah, and most of the time. If you don't bother them, they won't bother you.
I’ve been kinda wondering this question, too. What would men choose? A random man or a bear. In every hypothetical situation I’ve heard men put themselves in as a protector, it’s another man who is the “assailant”.
“If a guy broke into my house, I’d……..”
i love you
@@dragletsofmakara1120depends for me day hike I'd much prefer a random dude. Staying in place for a week, probably a bear.
PLEASE I DIED WHEN HE PULLED OUT THE NAZIS, HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SUCH A CLOWN
It's so fucking stupid especially since as far as I know it was some white guys who started asking the question.
The randomly selected man could be anything, ranging from an empath to a psychopath, the most humane of humans to the most monstrous of monsters. The bear will always be a bear. It's not man vs wild animal. It's wild animal vs wild card.
Are we talking self proclaimed empath or an actual empath cause if their self proclaimed I think I'd take the psychopath lol. Mainly here to say please do not assume all bears are the same they vary just as much as people do.
YES EXACTLY, very well phrased, I thought wild-card the whole time but couldn't put a name to it.
My dad told me he hates it when people walk in on him in the bathroom.
I asked him if he how he felt about black people walking in on him in the bathroom to prove that he's racist
😂
My adult amab children immediately answered bear when I posed this question. My republican brother in law (not voting for Trump this time!!!) chose the damn bear! I don't understand children like this that can't learn why we women chose the damn bear. Is it really so very hard to learn why we have?
Everyone I've asked of every age and gender has said bear except someone who was already angry about this question and was under the illusion he could choose who he'd be lost with. He chose a specific person.
@@buradi90my thing is I can't think of a single person I'd want to be stuck in the forest with. If the person's stronger than me, then they're a threat that could torture me if they wanted. If the person's weaker, then I'd feel partially responsible for keeping them alive (and they could still stab me in my sleep). Finally, if the person is someone I know and trust, I would never wish for them to be in a bad situation (like being stuck in a forest). So all thats left is the bear 😅
> "Women are the most bigoted group in America"
This is some "gamers are the most oppressed" logic
Also, how easily an edited street interview can filter people is wild. Yes, people *would* probably change their opinion based on a specific qualifier, but he's not coming at this from a philosophical perspective, is he?
He's coming from his fragile white masculinity perspective, the one that teaches them “WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED THAT WE ARE TREATED EQUALLY” and these white dudes gobble them up 😭
Seemed pretty philosophical to me. What perspective do you think he is coming from? Misogynistic or?
Also the qoutes you made literally have no logic, its the title, like the title of a chapter. The logic is inside the chapter.
I thought he said women are the second most bigoted group, and I was like, are men the first? 😂😂
@@iarmycombo5659 Doesn't need to be misogynistic. But it's an egotistical one for sure. Because instead of listening and reflecting on why women choose the bear and the hold the threat or trauma of s*xual violence has on women, he makes it about his pride. "Women might have become the most bigoted group in America" while any male-dominated field in the US still holds horrific numbers of harassment and s*xual assault that isn't met with any form of punishment towards the aggressor is delusional.
@@strawberryfox8819 the why is quite obvious. Because risk of SA ruining the life of women is worse than the risk of a bear mauling ending the life of women, to women. Its a statement. There are no reasons given to why that is stated. You are supposed to invent the angles they are trying to refer to with that statement that doesnt in and of itself point to any problem. Like calling some1 stupid. The person who got called stupid has no idea why they were called stupid but maybe they can guess by inventing new angles and perspective on how to look at the context. The statement is open ended. Its completely fair to look at different angles to process an open ended statement. Thats what you want anyways. You just want men to end the process in themselves at fault. When that doesnt happen, its on you because youre supporting and agreeing with an argument that is literally completely open ended and doesnt direct men into the right direction which would be inward. You have to give a direction, and you have to justify why its that direction, or you can have no expectation of people learning anything from your argument. And the reason is because its open ended. The same reason you cant expect any1 you calk stupid to learn from that. Because calling them stupid is way too open ended and youre not giving them any help. Would wonder if this problem is actually as big as many claim then you would help in the process of addressing who is at fault and why so that action can in agreement be taken.
Yes men, keep it up
Keep proving to women that they were right to pick the bear by being still so upset about it, instead of asking yourself "Why do women pick the bear?"
Poor guy flunked kindergarten. How in the world did he leap to the conclusion that we are linking men to bears? He's gonna throw his back out; he's stretching so much.
I didn't realize the question was posed as "would you rather be stuck in the woods with a bear or a WHITE man?" Sorry bro, answer is the same, regardless of his skin tone. Interesting that he didn't propose changing, or even mentioning, the color of the bear.
I mean, if we're specifying grizzly or polar bear, I may need to think for a moment, as those bears are known to potentially be more aggressive. But I'd still probably choose bear to a random man.
@@Tashishi0 Exactly! As a woman, my prefrences are misc bear > random dude of any particular race > polar bear
Thank you for the simple words of "stop".
There was a counter question I saw that asked men if they would rather pour their hearts out to a tree or a woman and why. Men were picking tree and the most common reasons was that women might use what men say against them in an argument or mock them for being unmanly.
It's very telling if _that_ is the worst men can think of a woman doing to them, when the worst women thought of was r-pe and murder (not always in that order).
A had a man tell me it's as bad as r-pe. We got in a huge argument over it. I don't feel as close to him as I did before he said that.
The real question is would you feel safer in a forest with a bear, or with a guy wearing that mask
The quote still stands, "Men are afraid of women laughing at them. Women are afraid of men killing them."
Man v bear was never about animalizing/dehumanizing men, it was illustrating women's fear of men (based on lived experiences).
Men star to fear women destroying their lives.
Because they can.
The funny thing is those men woman fear they dont chance they behavior. But a lot of those who women dont have nothing to fear going to no bother enymore.
They going to star working les and les and only do the vare minimun.
Good for them. And good for woman because those men never where men for women
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A thousand times YES!
_Man v bear was never about animalizing/dehumanizing men, it was illustrating women's fear of men (based on lived experiences)_
And that's great. But it does seem to have the side effect of dehumanising men. The question is inherently bigoted. The video Speech Prof responds to is silly, the point that they failed to make though was that if you asked the question "Who would you rather meet in the woods, a black man or a white man", no amount of rationalising a fear of black people would be considered acceptable if someone were to answer that they would feel safer with a white man. No amount of crime statistics or explanations of the socio-economic factors that result in higher incarceration rates for black people would save you from being labeled a racist. Yet when we're comparing a man to a bear, all that stuff is being allowed in and we ignore the implication in the question that while a man might do bad things but a woman wouldn't.
Now I'm all for pointing out and explaining the fear that women have of men. But The response of this community by and large has not a calm, measured explanation of your point. It's insults aimed at anyone who shows even the slightest signs of disagreement. Which contributes to the side effect I pointed out.
Of course, the irony of this situation is that the entire issue could have been side-stepped had the question simply been the unbigoted "Would you rather meet a bear or a human"
@@StillNotCancelled Have fun with your missing-the-point and not-listening-to-women!
@@nmelodic6391 _It's insults aimed at anyone who shows even the slightest signs of disagreement_
I was careful to point out twice that it was good that the question was showing the fear women have of men but that it was also having an (intended? unintended?) side effect.
Thanks for volunteering to prove my point.
You are correct, the most oppressed group isn't white men, it's gamers 🥺
😂 Well done
We live in a society where gamers don’t rule the world 😭
As a female gamer, I love this joke so much.
Buncha nerds
Oh I don't realize the question was bear or white man
Funny fly-eye-anon-man used a color in his rant. He doesn't want to believe women are less safe with men of any color, so he qualified it with sparking racism.
I know. I might have to recons.. Bear. Still bear
I know, right? I thought about it as a randomized man out of all the men in the world, all races.
Facemask Dude really thought he did somethin' here 🤣
So they stopped wearing those white pillowcase hoods, and changed it to chewing gum masks now..?
Those are a lot of words from chiclet face that he doesn't speak to women often and when he tries, they suddenly have to go do something else.
No one ever said anything about race...just A man. Any man. A stranger to us. There are billions of men in the world I don't know and wouldn't want to be stuck in the woods with them. He'll, there are men in real life I DO know and would try to find a ravenous, cub-missing polar bear than be in the woods with them.
The fact he took this conversation there hints at his own or the people in his life's issues. Some people should really try irl therapy instead of using the internet as therapy.
THEY DO LOOK LIKE CHICLETS. 🤣
Glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought this guy glued some chiclets to a pair of pantyhose and put it over his head.
Here’s some nicknames for him:
Mr. Chiclets
Chiclet Man
Chiclet McChicface
Chiclet Thunder
Chiclet Face
Dr. Chicletstein
@@kenyasmith2652 I vote for Chiclet McChicface.
I about died laughing at ravenous, cub-missing polar bear. I don't think I know any that bad but I always remember that the serial killer's neighbors talk about what a nice man he was.
I have never been Attacken by an animal but by men I don't know several times.
I beated me up because I refused to give him my Phone number. Two tried to grape me, I endet up in a Hospital.
I hope you're doing ok. This so call "men" are nothing but petty losers who can take no for an answer. Sometimes stories like this makes me hate my gender, but I know that's not going to get me anywhere let alone help someone, I need to be better. Stay strong sister and I wish you the best for your future and all women around the globe.
Thank you speech prof. You give me peace of mind in this crazy internet world
The fact that this guy just assumes the original question, which just said "man", specifically meant white men...
It tells you a lot about how he sees non-white people.
There's someone here who sees some people as animals and it ain't the women who prefer the bear.
Oh my god. They are so stuck about the bear. We can't escape it anymore, can we? They just can't understand. I feel like the exercise was pointless, cause they just cannot understand it.
they think our answer becomes racist if our answer is the same as before..... but its not racist that they made it a racist question as the person actually comparing the black man to an animal???
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So if it's racist to compare a black man to an animal, why is it not sexist to compare a man to an animal?
@@sorreldislikespotatoes9882 Becuase Men Rape, assail, kidnap, torture, deface, and mutilate women
literally 1/6 women in the US has been the victim of a complete or attempted rape!
thats 28 million women!!!!!!
& its not even bringing into consideration those who havent been attempted to be physically raped, but have been abused in countless other ways....
changing the conversation from (any man -> (black man)... is racist BC of the intent of why it was changed....
Just like it wasant magically racist when Sunm changed the script for black men to look at the question and changed it to (a white Karen)
because the intent wasnt racist
it was to implore empathy and get men to understand the fear women feel
The initial prompt comparing men to bears isnt sexist becasue the bear is quite literally the better option.
Youve been compared to a monster, sure. but that monster is still safer than most of yall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If i offered you 100,000$ but there was a 1/6 chance that your life would be ruined, youd get PTSD, stop feeling comfortable in your own skin....
how likely are you to choose that risk...
Now think about how women:
1- dont get to choose whether they play the game & are just thrust into it
2- theres no prize money regardless
3- win or lose you'll be on edge forever, because you dont know what the dice rolled until you die, as it can happen anytime anywhere
A bear also would not go online and post a video of himself comparing women to n @ z i s for not wanting to be stuck in the woods with him. Bears don't gaslight, so yes, I remain Team Bear all the way, baybee!
If a bear would attack me, then it's most likely because it was I was the one who just showed up basically "in her living room", so she'll do what it takes to protect her cubs.
...oh. oh gods. He somehow managed to make it worse. Discoball head made it worse.
"Discoball head". Yaaas! 😂
Oh damn, that guy is turning into a corncob.
Well, I tend to agree that "women are the second most bigoted group", because I can only think of 1 equally large demographic, and that other one is indeed more bigoted.
But I honestly can't figure out what he tried to imply...
Yeah, maybe the rest of the video he cut off wouldve give us a clue or a summary where he states what he is implying more clearly.
@@iarmycombo5659 I just checked the original, the only part cut off is at the end (the n*zi stuff)
Watched his video in the wild, that's basically the entire argument unfortunately.
@@lazyguardoutsideoftown Thank you for your sacrifice.
Some of these people really do take the "6 degrees of separation" approach a bit too seriously
That masked guy's spin reminds me of that old Sovjet joke, a news report about Sasha Popov who won a car in the lottery. Which was *almost* true, except that it wasn't Sasha Popov but Alexij Ivanov. And he didn't win a car, but a bicycle. And he didn't win it, it got stolen from him at the train station.
But in principle, the story was reported accurately.
That bear in the woods gets better looking as time goes by.
Whenever this question reappears, I want to tell these guys to go watch Deliverance and then we'll talk.
Mayo dude would do well to consult a dictionary on the meanings of preference and bigotry. They are not the same. He is a No Nuance Norton who needs to sit in the front of the class.
It doesn't even make sense. I'm saying "still the bear" bc it doesn't matter what man (as logm as he's a stranger)
It's funny these days when literal Nazis are supporting right wing candidates when someone tries to invoke Godwin's Law against victims of violence and/or groups specifically targeted for violence. That guy sometimes has points to make but stuff like this makes me stay far away from following him.
My favorite bear species is the black bear. If he gets to specify the skin color of the man, do I get to specify the fur color of the bear? Because now I'm actively EXCITED to choose the bear. Holy shit, my favorite bear!
We actually have black bears around here (though I've never actually seen one personally). I'd choose black bear also. I actually talked about the odds of survival and methods of survival with each when I first hashed out this question and chose bear.
I just can't take anything chiclet head says seriously. but I worry that he's a terrible influence on kids. thank you for speaking up for women and good men.
Is that Ben Shapiro under that mask?
Nah, the voice doesn't sound like a squeaky toy.
I’m thinking it could wither be Blair White, Matt Walsh, or Noah Shnapp
" okay i can make this analogy mean women are the bad ones if i just change the analogy and fill in the women's answer myself. Nothing bad faith about that... "
It's pathetic how much they keep choosing to not get it. Or more likely they do get it but need to convince the idiots so they watch their channel.
We could add "man with a weird mask" to the equation. Looks like a serial killer to me.
THANK GOD!!!! Was praying you'd call that guy out for his BS
It's not about race, it's about gender. The weird guy with whatever tf that is over his face is attempting and failing to make the demographic with the most power who has done the most harm to everyone else the "true" victim. It is absurd, and would be laughable if not for the menacing tone. All he accomplished is to make my exile to the woods with a bear sound even more appealing.
Should probably read up on Eastern history. While at one point whites were on top we really won't learn who's still on top until after ww3.
Here's a thought, just maybe if more men (and some women) would actually use common sense, decency, and had the thought of how would I like to be treated this way, in a society that some have been taught that might is right, and that they're privileged to take whatever they want. Women would feel more comfortable around them, more so then a "wild" animal that often will follow a set pattern, that we can have strategies to counter. And most animals don't play mind games ( some cats do though).
The title is actually wild lol 😭☠️
I think it was on Cyzor's channel that it was said that isn't it interesting that the question posed is whether you want to BE in the woods with bear or man but the guys that are outraged women choose bear automatically act like the question is asking about being attacked. Like coexisting isn't even possible.
Regardless of the phrasing, I choose bear. A quick death is an easy choice. And if I survive? I have a great story.
Oh, that mask guy. He used to pop up in my feed quite frequently after I watched one of his shorts. I ended up doing a "Don't Recommend This Channel" on him because he had just soooo many bad takes on sooo many things.
Ben Shapiro wearing a disco ball over his head 😒
This guy looks like he'd be really good for teflon pots and pans.
Now everyone thank the internet for letting women see the crazy crap that is running around in some men's brain. Thanks internet.
Just stop! Absolutely the right response to this terrible video. Men like that are absolutely the ones we want to avoid in the woods!
Wow. Just wow.
Maybe if so many of us didn't behave comparable to matting male otter all the time, we wouldn't be getting compared to animals (and losing) so much
Man vs Bear. Which one is statistically FAR MORE LIKELY to:
Rape?
Torture?
Sexually Assault?
Kill/Murder?
California just had the first death by bear in the state's history. (A Black bear, if it matters.) In the first 3 months of this year alone, Los Angeles, CA - just one city in CA - had 147 murders. Approximately 81% of murders are commited by men, so that's 119 murders committed by men just in LA, just this year, vs. 1 killer bear in 174 years of California statehood.
Yeah, I'ma gonna trust random bears, even if they're - *gasp* - Black bears, on average more than random guys in the middle of the forest.
Ooh, dude just lost the discussion according to Godwin's Law. 😂
In every video, I see the hope for humanity draining more and more from your eyes.
0:18 One of the "women" he shows answering the question is actually a trans man.
So... A Woman. Weird that you feel the need to post this as a comment. Please educate yourself.
I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT!!!
@@duz_machines_8429 He just ended up showing that it's not only women who pick the bear.
Woah! Backupbackupbackup...woah...stop. Sorry, I have to speak louder, because I am a woman. Sorry, I have to compose myself, because I am a woman. Sorry, I have to speak in a way that will not offend anyone, because I am a woman. WTFudge, now I have to be sorry because the "bear question" is racist? Have I not apologised enough for being a woman?
If someone says they're afraid of me or upset in some way, my first reaction isn't, "Why are you trying to undermine my place in society?!" What I'm thinking is, "hmm, that doesn't sound like me..." and I say, "I'm sorry if I gave off that impression. I didn't mean to. Can you tell me more so we can clear the air?"
That usually lets the other person know that it's a misunderstanding, and I learn more about where they're coming from so I can be clearer next time. 😊
This coming from a man(?) that covers his face at the thought of saying this to women. Would he also feel the need to do that with the bear?
I heard it phrased as “You can’t even take a no in a HYPOTHETICAL situation.”
It makes being alone with you in real life very unattractive.
Again, thank you. You are awesome!❤
As a women I honestly think men would be safer with the bear as well. Man vs bear everyone would be safer with the bear.
Thanks, Prof. Thank you so much!
I’m still choosing the bear. Ethnicity of the man is irrelevant. That doesn’t mean I think straight men of European descent are “subhuman” - what a wild take. It just means that - in my experience growing up in a farming family in rural Australia - animals are easier to read and more predictable. 🤷🏻♀️
What if it’s a black bear or a black man, but the black man has his most recent demo tape and he really wants you to listen to it?
Note: the black bear also has a demo tape, but it’s a CD and so you aren’t sure if the black bear was totally clear on the instructions but that’s okay because the stereo has both a tape and a CD player.
The bear easily! Both because of the random man in the woods or a bear question and because I'd be genuinely interested in how a bear made a demo tape with a CD. I see it as a valuable chance to learn about bear music!
Wait, you forgot to tell us how much the black bear wanted us to listen to the demo CD. Is it more than the black man, less, or the same?
The only way this could be more comical is if Bo Burnham's "Straight White Male" song was playing in the background.
The logical fallacies the men* keep coming up with really have them thinking they’ve cracked the code on Thinking 😂😭
*Stranger Danger.* Since at least the 1980s there was a huge omnipresent campaign to warn children about strangers. It was strangers, not strange men, but the icon was a masculine silhouette in a hat and trench coat. And part of it was usually that kids were advised if they were lost or in trouble to try to find a police officer, store clerk, a mom, or a woman to help, so the vibe was definitely that male strangers were the real threat. Strange men are hunting you, and actively want to catch you and hurt you in vague unspecified ways.
If you grew up or camped in bear country you may also have seen an educational program about avoiding the danger of bears and other animals when camping or in the woods. Things like be noisy so the bears hear you coming and avoid you. Never approach a bear, especially a cub. Safe storage of food and whatnot. The vibe here is that bears live in the woods, so be Bear Aware. But also that bears are working on the "don't start no trouble won't be no trouble" principle.
At some point the socialization of boys shifts and they are considered cowards if they are too cautious of strangers as adults. But the socialization of women never refutes the Stranger Danger we learned as kids. We are warned that strange men are dangerous. Stories of Ted Bundy faking an injury or disability to get women to let their guard down, warning us that even the most harmless seeming man could be a predator.
I bet if you give a LLM the Stranger Danger educational material and the Bear Aware educational material, and then ask it "is it safer to be in the woods with a bear or a strange man" even the computer would pick the man.
My personal takeaway from most of this (as someone who got the "be bear aware" stuff taught to me) is that people underestimate how fucking scary bears can be.
I think you misstated your final sentence about the computer selection given your excellent summary of the messages men and women receive growing up.
@@wartgin Yep, lol. I edited for clarity and ended up saying the opposite to what I meant.
@@a_worldly_man Heck yeah. We had a wood heater, with a small stack of firewood right outside the front door for easy access. One night my mom opened the door to grab more wood . . . and there was a black bear sitting on the woodpile. Slammed the door. We're looking out through the big glass picture window and there are SIX black bears of various sizes in the yard. Must have been a family reunion or something. The only thing keeping them on the other side of the glass is that they are okay staying on their side. They are big, muscular and scary.
OTOH, if she'd opened the door and there had been a strange man sitting on the woodpile that would have been pretty scary too. And then if we'd looked out the window and there were six strangers just hanging out in our yard for no apparent reason? Nope. Though I guess we could have called the police then. Or not, because we'd probably be in a horror movie.
Those kind of men never prove their point. What they do prove is that their response is about entitlement from day 1. Thank you Speech Prof for sharing what should be common sense yet again. 😌
I thought the title of this video referred to men from Co. Mayo, Ireland.
Apparently it means white guys in general.
This risk distribution between men and bears is different. 100 percent of bears pose a certain danger, but if you know how, you can usually avoid them. 99 percent of men are harmless, but the dangerous 1 percent is significantly more dangerous than a bear, because you can't just scare them away with loud noises.
I ( thankfully ) missed this whole bear vs man question in the first place. The internet really loves to piss people off and then manipulate ig.
Well said. I’ll take a bear any day
Someone should go to Chiclet McChicface’s comment section and type, “Take it off! Take it off!” like they do on The Masked Singer.
Has anyone started bringing up the "race" of bear yet, because I'd feel a lot safer with a Black or Brown bear than a White one. 🤷
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Someone or someTHING is making these videos visible and I don't think it's just an algorithm. I follow hundreds of art accounts that make engaging and fascinating content, lots of comedians with thousands of followers and NONE of them get the engagement or eyes on them that these accounts do. The idiots that make and follow this stuff are a loud, scary, and often violent chunk of men, but they aren't a majority, not by far, not even in conservative circles.
But if something doesn't change soon, they will look like the majority and everyone who is pushing back will be part of a group that is made to look like they're fighting against equality.
But I wonder if giving them screen time as a reaction is part of the plan?
If none of us hunt down fly-eye-anon-man's channel, instead satisfying our funny bone laughing at him here, it's all good. We should be aware it's happening, but don't need to engage the insanity.
That's exactly what happens, people who post outrageous and offensive things get a lot of engagement because people click on it and watch it and comment on it because they want to rebut it or say how stupid it is, but that just drives the algorithm to recommend it to more people. Better option is to engage here on SpeechProf's channel, and if you get recommended any of the originals, don't engage, and tell CZcams to stop recommending them.
Funny thing about Nazis is that they always claim they're the ones being victimized by Nazis lol.
I read a post online written by a transperson who was a bit uncomfortable with the bear man thing, and they brought up the black man thing. They also talked about how fear has been weaponized against black men by white woman.
I have never heard anyone try to bring race into the "man or bear" debate before!