How Red Bull have Exploited Ferrari's Main Weakness
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2022
- Red Bull have figured Ferrari out. Both cars have been really balanced on pace this season, but whenever there is an on-track battle - the Red Bull seems to have the balance of it.
So what are Red Bull doing to come out on top? And how are Ferrari not able to counter it?
Let me explain
Now the first thing to chat about is how different these cars are. And that’s not going over all the little aero bits that are different, or how the engine power compares - but in the general philosophy of the cars.
The Red Bull is a pretty high-drag, high-downforce concept. But then, to get the pace on the straights, they have been trimming the car out completely. Running it very low and having very low wing angles for the past few races.
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I'd like to hear a bit more about ho Russel did so many laps with medium tyres and recovered a lot of positions. That was insane
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You brits are emphasizing that is really about the car and not the talent of the driver lol Hamilton crybabies
I still remember a time when Vettel did pole at Interlagos without ever reaching 300kph top speed, his average speed was enough while Alonso did like 312 or 315 if am not mistaken, how things have changed
That red bull was a cornering beast!
It always has dominated the corners even against Mercedes. Interesting to see a total change of philosophy though.
Maybe Mercedes’ AND Ferrari are going for high downforce this year. And Redbull moving away from that concept.
Now that Red Bull is fast on the straight, Mercedes’ fans will jump up and down screaming ‘rocketship!’, ‘30kph’, ‘drives itself’ all over the damn comments.🤣
@@lekudos finally someone talk about it
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI that 2020 Mercedes was one of the best cars ever and Hamilton would have broken all the single season records had they had the full 23 race season they wanted.
The Red Bull of those days seemed like it’s minimum corner speed was 30kph higher than anyone else. That thing FLEW through the corners. High speed corners, low speed corners… it didn’t seem to matter. And Seb was a master at that. Webber too actually.
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Makes sense why you'd go for the straight line speed in this new era. The DRS zones are made far stronger by the fact you're able to follow through corners much closer. You get to stay in DRS for much longer and thus attack more often. This means that your speed on those straights is far more crucial to both attacking and defending, and it's very effortless defending that doesn't cause nearly as much tire wear and time loss as wheel to wheel battles.
Most of what you wrote is true ,but the DRS itself and especially the slip stream are much weaker.
DRS and slipstream is weaker though as the car ahead produces less dirty air
@@edenbh3609 DRS is still fine more or less. The slip stream is significantly weaker though.
@@edenbh3609 In isolation they are weaker, but I think what they're getting at is that it's easier to be in the drs range and therefore get it's advantage more often. (And it might even be stronger, as weak drs when you're 4 tenths back is probably better than strong drs 8 tenths back, and you wouldn't start a straight with such a small gap in the old cars)
@@ole7762 being 30m back with a 12mph advantage is better than being 80m back with a 17mph advantage for sure.
I still find it hard to believe that we are referring to the Red Bulls as the fastest on the straights and to the Ferraris as the fastest around the corners
remember 'aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines'? How things have changed.
@@bigpete7951 And then Honda happened.
@@horcruxes07 VTEC just kicked in yo
@@bigpete7951 Ferrari's engine is not much weaker t han Honda if at all... Look at the customer cars. the F1-75 is running very high downforce and drag which is why it struggles in the straight line comparatively vs the low drag RB18. VF-22 and C42 are pretty quick down the straights more often than not.
@@lukadzidic8211 never thought anyone would say the haas and Alfa Romeo were one of the quickest down the straights
For me, RB learned it's lesson in the last seasons, were they had problems to overtake Mercedes due to lower straight line speed, but were faster in the corners.
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It's 2021 reversed, Verstappen was slower on the straights and had to drive like a lunatic in the corners wheel to wheel or he had no chance. Now that role might be forced on Leclerc. He doesn't have to do it yet as he's got a points lead, maybe later we'll see some action.
Which makes Verstappen's performance last year just more astonishing, considering that with last year's cars it was way harder to follow close behind than it is this year.
Precisely
@@reinholdbeck7097 very fair point
@@div911X So if Lewis is considered GOAT, then Max is GOATer.
Yeah unless the next update help Ferrari charles will have to send it more often.
Ferrari's strength is cornering speed, but it diminishes as the tires wear. Red Bull's strength of straight line speed does not diminish as the tires wear.
Good argument.
Boring tracks with way to much straights
means straight line speed is the most significant
As long as Max can get that toe+drs on the straights he can keep up without having to overdrive the car.
Well said 👏 I'm not sure why this is not being made more of in the media. It seems pretty obvious to me but I am by no means an expert.
But don't they pretty much lose the same speed as the tires wear in the corners? For example, if the Ferrari is able to drive trough the corner with 250 km/h and the Red Bull with only 240 wouldn't they drive with the same tire wear with 245 respectively 235 through it? I don't know how much the speed changes in combination with aero. I would think that there is the mechanical grip and the aero grip comes on top of that and when the mechanical grip starts to fade the amount of aero grip should stay the same pretty much . It would make a bigger difference if the aero grip rises non-linear with speed so if the car drives 5 km/h slower from 250 to 245 it loses more aero grip than it would with 240 to 235, so the Ferrari would lose maybe 6 km/h instead of 5. On the other hand if you drive slower through the corner you spend more time in it and that would mean that if you drive 235 instead of 240 you lose more time than with 245 instead of 250. It seems that this might be not that simple. Probably it's just that the tire wear with the Ferrari is bigger than Red Bull's.
Max has been a corner attacker till 2021. This is the first time he's having a straight line speed car. I hope his corner attacks stay, adds spice to races.
I hope he doesn't loose his cornering skills like Lewis in McLaren when he switched to merc
@@0megalul309 can you elaborate
If you look at miami gp, you can see that max has taken the corners with higher speed (at least 5-10km/h faster) and wayyy risky than leclerc. He was always on the limits and managed it really well. I think max handles the corners realllllyyyy well even with less downforce than Lec
@@0megalul309 Lewis has never had any skills in wheel-to-weel-battles, so there was nothing he could have lost. He was always in a car in which he could easily cruise 20-30 seconds ahead of the rest of the field, getting waved through the backmarkers with blue flags, but as soon as he was in the midfield, he performed VERY poorly. Not even closely comparable to Alonso, Vettel, Leclerc or Verstappen.
@@reinholdbeck7097 yeah....no
They learned from Mercedes last year that the only way to defend these days with DRS is to have insane straight line speed without it.
exactly, we all recall HAM' car just completely swallowing VER's car in the straight at interlagos
After a very long 8 years, some of the teams have finally, able to make a better engine than Mercedes. Honda's engine development is just insane.
@@aimanazrie8944 i don't think Honda were even trying during their years with McLaren. But yea,they caught up with Merc real quick after partnering with RB
@@AnshidSalman Honda did trying, and they were well known to be fast-developing. Their partnership with Mclaren is what sets them back
@@TheJorgeSampaio that wasn't due to Mercedes being quicker on the straights at all races. It really was down Mercedes issuing a new engine for Hamilton in that race and turning it up. Bottas wasn't able to overtake Max on the straights with an existing engine whereas Lewis could with a new engine. Look at France for example, where both the Mercedes were right behind Max and were unable overtake. Later on when Max and Pere came from behind to overtake Bottas, they didn't even need the slipstream to overtake him.
Verstappen v. LeClerc is the F1 racing I’ve awaited for years. Disregarding the cars for a moment, they are each phenomenally skilled, young and hungry drivers and it is thrilling to watch them compete.
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@@asiasi1237 we’ll find the answer when the monaco gp happens.
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This tells me that not only does Charles have a great shot at finishing Monaco for once, but seems they have the best car for that track, he might win if he doesnt bin it again
Monaco might also be a slow enough track for Mercedes to be able to take the most out of their package.
@@antonkirilenko3116 oof.
HE has to finish, it's only HIM who can prevent it (again)
Monaco is a track where you rely more on mechanical grip. And RBR were much better in the last sector of Miami, where mechanical grip dominates the ultimate pace.
But that can also be setup related.
Yea but ferrari has a big problem which is RBs power. If RBs manage to be in front of ferraris, they will pull away easily everytime they go out of the corner. And since monaco is very tight circuit with many slow corners, i think ferrari cant utilize their advantage.
Let's take a moment and appreciate Honda for leaving Red Bull with a beast of a Power Unit.
They are still their, as Engineering.
Honda decided to stay, actually. Look it up, guess the results of the 2021 season was good enough to convince their bosses.
@boonie_MTB GP2 engine! GP2 engine! Eehhh!
Honda left Brawn GP with a winning chassis and "left" RB with a winning engine. So much respect for how they conduct themselves.
For me Ferrari's weakness right now is tire deg. Verstappen has a clearly advantage when the Ferrari starts graining. Once they get ahead it's nearly impossible overtaking them with that straight line speed, even with DRS
It was the same with Mercedes (or just Lewis? idk) last year. The Mercedes car ate its tyres as if there were infinitely many left, whereas Red Bull managed to go longer on the same set and still doing decent lap times.
@@reinholdbeck7097 Wrong
Plus the DRS effect now is less than last year generation car. So its important to have straighline speed advantage on this new gen car.
thats just not correct, rbr had more deg in australia and bahrain
@@iuvdisuhb-ld3ou exactly it's amazing how quickly people forget
Redbull learned from 2021 Mercedes and did it. Ferrari is being 2021 Redbull
If you're right, then this means Leclerc is going to be WDC and Red Bull will win the constructor's ;)
@Ashit Kotian I don't want to count on DNF. Ferrari clearly needs to get their top speed better for this year. The 2018 and 2019 Ferrari ironically Ferraris would of been ideal to counter they're just like this year RB but where DF deficit in 2019 and major issues with the team in 2018 meant that while best car majority that year the updates wasn't panning out. They mirror ironically. Ferrari need to take their mind lessons from 2018 into account for their concept this year.
@@reinholdbeck7097 That is presuming Leclerc vs Verstappen is similar to Verstappen vs Hamilton.
@@theonlylolking Yeah, but it won't be, as Leclerc isn't nearly as dirty as Hamilton, and Sainz won't be the side dog for Leclerc, as Bottas has been for Hamilton. But the error rate of Leclerc and Hamilton is almost equally high ....
@@reinholdbeck7097 You mean the same way Perez is for Verstappen lol. Hamilton put a great fight last year and things got heated a couple of times. I wouldn’t be surprised if Verstappen just wiped the floor with Leclerc in the second half the season.
The real difference between their performance is that Max uses Manscaped which gives him an aerodynamic advantage.
Noticed that sell out also. Just for a pair of silk boxers. What is the world coming to? What is next sellout for a Rolex or some round town grocery getter McClaren shopping car?
Shaving those nasty pubes gives you 0.0001 second advantage 🤣🤣
What surprised me most is that Charles wasn't able to stay close enough behind Max through the slow section before the back straight to have a better chance at overtaking with DRS. Max managed to pull away there which, together with his top speed, allowed him to stay ahead of Charles.
Yeah I think he was slightly wrong about the Ferrari being quicker overall at Miami. Max fluffed his quali run. In the Race Max pulled away quite easily, it wasn’t just straight line advantage.
The only time Leclerc hung in was when he was being pulled around for 4 laps under drs and slipstream
My take on the season so far is ...... what we have on track is each constructor's best interpretation of the 2022 rules. Now that they have been racing, the strengths and weaknesses of each package are becoming visible, and these will vary from track to track. So far the low drag characteristics of the RBR car are working for them (at the Miami race at least). At Melbourne and Bahrain, it was chaos. The SF package was better suited. I guess at high downforce tracks like Monaco and Hangaroring, our conversation could be very different. That said, each constructor is in the process of studying their package, bringing tweaks where they see fit. RBR were not satisfied with their initial attempt and they at the second test, they made huge changes to the car, SF on the other hand, were content and they haven't done anything major as yet. Hats-off to the folks at Maranello for such a fabulous job. Its a long season. Next up is Catalunya, and SF have indicated that we will see their major upgrade. May I please humbly request the jury from issuing their verdict until the next witness has given their testimony?
RBR were not content with their first attempt? I dont think you understand testing. The car in the 2nd week isnt a reaction to the car in the 1st week or competitors cars. The car in the 2nd week is the result of, usually, months of design optimisation. The thing we can assume from testing is that Ferrari was many months ahead in design, which isnt a weird thing when you know they spend the entirety of 2021 focussing on 2022, or had their final update ready for week 1 of testing.
@@gistrobaguette7566 it's always risky to make certain assumptions about another person's thoughts ..... in any engineering system, testing and commissioning are part of the process to ensure the system meets the required specification. The purpose of the test is to ensure that there is correlation between design data and the operating environment .... the only reason why I would update a design that I have spent so much time working on is that I have placed it in the operating environment, correlated the performance with predictions from the model and either identified flaws that must be rectified, or I have simply spotted areas for improvement ..... else why fix it if it's working and waste precious resources?
@@wekanye2 i agree with this. But this is exactly what is happening. The car for the 1st test is the design that was finalised a long time before the actual testing itself. Lets say 6 months (but this differs per team and isnt exactly known of course). The team will obviously continue designing and upgrading the car from that point onwards and the car that they bring to the 2nd test is the car that they designed up until that point in time mostly. The 1st testing week is therefore indeed mostly used for correlation, and the 2nd test more for performance testing. This is also especially true this year with completely new regulations to not give competitors too much information. This style of testing was first used by Mercedes and copied by other teams after that.
That is what i meant when i said that the car in the 2nd week isnt a reaction to the car in the 1st week. The fact that Ferrari didnt update their car between tests is therefore not because they found the week 1 car to be ‘sufficient’, it is because they brought their week 2 car to week 1 already. Same with RB. The week 2 car was always scheduled to be the week 2 car. Not as a reaction to the week 1 car.
I remember at the Saudi Arabian GP
Leclerc was going 315km/h with other driver's tow
Meanwhile Pérez and Verstappen were gooing 335 or even 340km/h eithout tow. Guranteed win for them.
They never reached 330-340. They were around 320ish on the lower end. Ferrari’s were around 300-310. However at Miami Max managed 340 kmh.
@@kamata93 Actually... Pérez reached 335 km/h on his pole lap. But yeah, only in miami that they managed to break the 340km/h barrier.
I have always saw RBR as the team to look out for being good at corners, when there is a good combination of driver and car. (Seb & Max)
But now with the new 2022 season regulations, it seems like a new territory where RedBull has better topspeed than the rest, which used to be filled by Mercedes or Ferrari.
It's quite amazing consider how the "GP2 engine" comment still felt like not so long ago.
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The porpoising might actually be responsible for some of the tyre degradation, since that oscillation will compress the tyres and keep heat in them, which normally drops on straights, meaning the tyres have no chance to properly cool down, so they might be overheating? Just a theory.
Makes the most sense compared to other comments, I’m sure Ferrari will sort it out by Spain
Mercedes are porposing the most and in a more agressive way, while they aren't hard on tyres at all and actually have a hard time to warm them up
So the theory dosen't stand
Eden BH the porpoising is so bad on the merc they are lifting off at certain points, the lifting may minimise overheating, plus I clearly remember Lewis getting on the radio stating the tyres are overheating and him running wide
@@jasonmather3382 What if their new updates make the Ferrari bounce even more? There is only one team that can kind of simulate this from what I understood and it is Red Bull.
And Spain is the next race so... They really need to hurry because it wasn't quite sure if they would make it in time.
Red Bull is still on a diet so that straight line speed keeps going up. 20 km/h is a huge difference already, that is something Ferrari will not be able to close that easy without slimming down it's bulky design to reduce drag. Mercedes should be the car with the least amount of drag by their zero sidepods, Red Bull is somewhere close to Mercedes compared to other teams. Imagine Red Bull has brought it's weight down to Ferrari lvl, how much faster would that make them? They could choose to go with some more down force and also be quicker through the corners and still have that 20 km/h speed difference. At the end of the race when the tires of Max were switched on with extra power, Max did manage to pull away again and win with almost a 4 second lead.
What worries me more than this is the early engine change on Ferrari's side, I mean Saints only drove 3 race weekends with his first and Leclerc only 4. This does not look good, looks like Mercedes the past year to keep engine power high to be able to win races over Red Bull. What I want to point out is, both Ferrari drivers could not match Max in Miami with a brand new engine and neither Ferrari driver is driving with the updated spec of the PU. That gives them less a problem later on if Red Bull can use an upgraded package on their own or maybe even use this money on the feared upgrades aero wise and weight reduction on the car.
I'll go for this explanation
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But guys don't forget that Ferrari didn't bring any upgrade since the start of the season whereas Red Bull is constantly bringing upgrades so let's see upcoming update of Ferrari in Barcelona
They did in miami
1 update every 4 races will be slower than a smaller update every race. Teams need time to test each bit
@@HIYAharry that entirely depends on how much advantage each respective update gives
@@squeakybunny2776 they ended up not using the new wings, because of the track degradation
If upgrades have worked as intended, then it's a win in my book. Ferrari are focussed on bringing a major upgrade, whereas RBR does small incremental upgrades. If SF upgrades don't work then it'll be a huge bummer as they'd have lost out on time and money. I feel RBR's approach is much better.
This time Red Bull went for low downforce for speed on the straights and Ferrari when for high downforce for speed in the corners, but it cost them on the straights. Part of the tire problem was the heat of the track in Miami, the hottest track temp of the season so far.
For me it’s been fun going through the 2012 season and just seeing how the concepts of the cars are like 180 to what they are today lol. Speaking of course with the Red Bull straight line speed vs cornering
Corner speed is great in qualifying when you don’t have to attack or defend so you don’t have to worry about tyre wear or towing. In the actual race you have to worry about both so straight line speed is better
Red Bull is not a high drag high downforce concept at all, it’s the total opposite. The top speed doesn’t come from the PU, which Ferrari’s is more powerful. The low drag concept allows for greater end of straight top speed.
ok mate u definitely know more than scarbs then lol
Well, RB smoked Ferrari with 100% engine power in Miami. Even Binotto got furious and called RB is spending money on development.
@@arapaimagold8088 not 100% power mate the hybrid system wish has 10hp is not yet on and they wer 10k faster then the Ferrari but the Ferrari was running more downforce
@@darkghost4890 all engine manufacturers will bring a new ers system before September deadline
@@arapaimagold8088 It's the Aerodynamic efficiency of Redbull that is doing magical things, courtesy of Adrian Newey and his team (The very reason why Redbull are very strong at higher altitudes). That and Honda ofcourse have done a terrific job this year as well.
Mattia has already mentioned that Aero efficiency of Redbull is incredible and to counter that Ferrari had to unleash additional BHP which didn't have any effect in Miami and Imola.
Unless Ferrari reduce their drag without reducing the downforce levels they won't be able to challenge Redbull from now on.
This Ferrari is the exact car Vettel needed as his Redbull 2010-13 was infact a copy as it was not fast on straights but a monster in corners.
Vettel was unlucky that he got the 2018-19 drag race high top speed Ferrari which was a dog in the corners, if he had this Ferrari he would walk away with the title as he's a guy who can rattle everyone if got a car with high downforce like he did in his prime(2010-13)
And it seems that AMR22 still has wrong concept to be suitable to Seb
Good thing is, he's able to make most of the situation, as long as he's not under any pressure
Seb needs a stable rear, which ferrari didn't give him in 2019, and also a bit in 2018 too, because they wanted to challenged for the wcc, so needed both cars to be fast. Kimi wasn't a good fit, as he prefers an oversteery car, meanwhile seb prefers an understeery one
So it really depends on the balacing of the car, and i suspect it's more towards oversteer, as leclerc is their no1 driver and ferrari designed the car according to him
One of your best vids yet. Just the right length also.
The one piece of the puzzle that helps Redbull... Adrian Newey. The man has dealt with many of these same problems back in the 80's
so did rory byrne
Don't forget Honda, going from GP2 Engine to now being best in class
feels like we also saw this where hamilton was stuck behind gasly in imola, the rbpt had more straight line speed
But the Ferrari engine is more powerful. It isn't just the engine, it's also the aero.
No, the aero package plays a considerable role. That same race, Pierre was held up behind Alex running a Merc engine and no DRS and was actually losing out to Alex on the straights too. Arguably, the Mercedes engine is the one that lacks power most compared to RBPT and Ferrari
Leclerc made a comment a few weeks ago, I think after qualifying, where he said Red Bull were faster than they were showing. I don't know if that was a team or personal thought, but it seems true, especially as they dial everything in and the cars stop falling apart. Ferrari has a challenge ahead. I hope they can pick up some speed. The car seems great. I got a taste of that battle and I want much more.
Look, I am also a big Ferrari fan .... since 2001. Its a long season. Ferrari hasn't upgraded their car as yet .... hats-off to them for making such a quick car out of the box. They have stayed in front so far .... this is race 05. With this new Formula, there is no quick-fix else you will blow your budget very quickly .... no wonder Mercedes has been taking it easy. They need to fully understand the impact of an upgrade before going for one. Correlation between track and factory (wind-tunnel, CFD and simulator) is good ..... so we have been told. So they should have a clear direction of where they are going. I actually don't believe that its a lot they need to do. My thoughts are that they need to trim their downforce ... the very reason why their racer porpoises so much and RBR less so ..... then they will have more efficient aero, and they could then drop ride height and benefit more from their powerful PU. I think the SF PU is much more superior to the Honda .... with all that drag, Charl was not so far away .... The next high speed races are about to be exciting. People quickly forget in 2019, Ferrari was stronger in the straights and weaker in the slow and medium speed corners. All that knowledge they still have and we will see in 2 weeks time in Spain ....
@@wekanye2 Also Mattia said they might be bringing some small upgrades in the next race. And that Redbull have been developing their car and they haven't touched it.
@@wekanye2 In my opinion Ferrari should have been further ahead afther Red Bull and Mercedes pushing development of the 2021 car until the end of the season. Ferrari gave it up from the start. The upgrades Ferrari have will work? From what I have heard there is only one team that can simulate the bouncing sort of and that is not Ferrari, the only way to know is to stick those upgrades on the car and see if they bring what they need to bring. But top speed I doubt. Then there is another issue Ferrari seems to have... Their power units were changed very very early in the season Saints after only 3 race weekends and Leclerc after 4, that does not look good. With a lot fresher engine they can't even come close to Red Bull that was still sparing their engine.
@@chequeredflag05 Ferrari did bring small updates every race too, Mattia said they would bring a significant upgrade for Barcelona but it was not 100% sure if they would make that deadline. The real question is, how many extra engines Ferrari will need after changing both car engines just? And these aren't even the upgraded packages. These extra PU's are going to influence how much they can spend too, remember the budgetcap... and these engines are the most expensive component. This is why I think Mattia was so nervous about Red Bull and that he hoped they would soon reach the budgetcap. But if they need to change every 3 to 5 races an engine they will reach that budgetcap before Red Bull does.
@@Dorfus2323 Engines are not part of the budget cap, it wasn't last year either. Unless they have changed that during this winter, which i doubt
Max in Miami in the first 10 laps was pushing really hard because he new that Charles tyres wear out much faster than his car and then overtook him and lap by lap was slowly pulling away from him.
Strangely enough verstappen was gaining about 1.5 tenths on the super twisty section of Miami (at lest from what I saw in the race), can't explain that one though...lets see how it unravels
Max wasn't pushing at all the first laps. He took his time, like he did in SA.
@@bigpete7951 After the safety car and both on new tyres the Ferrari was much quicker . Max was driving like he was doing qualifying laps with in 6 laps Charles tyres started to wear out and max started to pull away again.
@@S2KG The Ferrari was quicker because it kept getting DRS from Max, and still couldn't overtake. As soon as Leclerc was out of DRS range, Max pulled away easily. Hell, he increased his lead to 3.5 seconds in the last 3-4 laps of the race...
Adrian Newey designed a great car. A few reliability glitches have prevented them from running away with the title. Ferrari has thankfully built a very competitive car but if their engine upgrades aren’t sufficient to leapfrog the RedBulls it will be a cakewalk to another Verstapen championship
Miami win tells the story. One lap pace is Ferrari, but raw speed is on red bull. Max is the difference between those two, Vettel is really miss this Ferrari.
red bull was slightly faster on one lap pace too. max just messed his lap up.
maybe if carlos didn't get overtaken in turn 1 charles would have get that pace advantage but yeah redbull destroys them on the straights
@@pornhubmante max would’ve passed Carlos in the first lap either way. Carlos was just trying to finish the race, max was trying to win.
@@askeladden450 Do you have some proof for that or is it just a trust me bro situation?
Really ?
do you even correlate the 3 sentences you just written. first two are correct but how is " Max the difference " ?
is it Max or is it the redbull technical team because of which Redbull have less drag + low downforce + high straightline speed + less tyreware ?
some times max fans try to give him credit for everything, sky is bule yah...max is the reason.
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RB from being corner masters to straight line beasts!
Very nice explanation again... clarifying things thanks a lot
Red Bull: looks after its tyres like a boss.
Also Red Bull: has Checo as a driver.
So let me get this straight, eighteen months after hiring a driver known for tyre management you become really good at tyre management.
because of perez red bull lost wcc last year perez is super ovverrated driver
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Nice tech info, thanks, much appreciated 👍
Redbull are the bad boys of f1.
Love their smart and risky approach!
Not at all. This time we don't have dirty Mercedes games with Toto complaining about flexible wings, pitstops, and all they could to hamper competition. This year we have clean racing cause Mercedes is not there to spoil the show.
@@givemeabreak8784 You mean like how RB tried? Please none of em are angels considering DAS and engine modes complains. Also Merc didn't complain about pit stops, that was Ferrari, Aston Martin and Mclaren.
@@givemeabreak8784 RB is just the same tbh, don't act like they've never complained like Mercedes.
RB is first to complain about Ferrari engine speed back in 2019.
@@aimanazrie8944 but ferrari did had an illegal engine
@@givemeabreak8784 in 2012 rb ran an illegal floor at monaco and the fia did nothing. Rb is as sketchy as merc is
Rb had a flexi wing last year, so toto was right, like how rb was right in 2019 when accused ferrari of cheating
Ironic how you forget how mercedes has been hampered in these years
No team in f1 is a saint when it comes to winning, they always look for ways to put pressure on the rival team and gain an advantage. Ferrari was very controversial in the early 2000s.
Redbull this year immediately complained about mercedes podsless design being illegal, but then stopped because they saw it didn't work for them. Had it worked, we would have been calling horner
christian "mercedes podless design is illegal" horner
well I think its also about max's driving skills because he still put up fastest lap times despite running on low downforce..i mean he carried serious speed in the corners and he understands the car
I think the RB car still has great DF in terms of cornering they're maginally simliar. Ferrari need to be better honesty. The car just plainly back to their 2017 theme.
I don't also buy it's more of Max skill I more attributed that Max RB has not that much less df while being much faster on the straights to the Ferrari. Ferrari definitely needs to update faster and more efficiently to close the gap significantly and then be head.
Mechanical downforce is still there with RBR just not aero downforce with low downforce setup. Max pulling 2 tenths consistently in narrow part of Miami proved that. In contrast Ferrari had 0 mechanical grip there and was sliding even with high downforce setup.
FYI Max was faster than Leclerc in the corners in sector 2 in Miami on the medium stint. It did not just come down to straight line speed.
In the race it was a Mercedes that set the fastest time in sector 2, btw.
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Great video Scott!
But Max made an error his last quali lap which you ignored. We don’t know if he would have had pole or not
So did leclerc
@@canismajoris6733 Max went completely off track, even if he finished the lap that would have deleted it
Great video, I wonder why you didn't address Checo not being able to pass Sainz on fresh tires. I thought Miami needed a bigger drs activation zone if there's only going to be 1 (maybe 2) place(s) to pass
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Checo had an engine issue which caused him to lose about 30 horsepower, that's why he couldn't.
@@Lands33R appreciate the info buddy! Was wondering what happened there
@@alunesh12345 time and a place buddy
the camera looks a lot better now, still a little off but better. great vdeo though interesting analysis
I'd say there are two DRS eras, the single DRS zone era, and the multi-DRS zone era which we are in now. And Red Bull seem to have solved it. Trim the car to nullify the DRS advantage for others and still keep the advantage for yourself. Clever. These huge cars can follow but they make it hard to make any move in a corner without going off track. In the single DRS era cars with good cornering could open a +1 second gap because they had most of the track to do it. Now there's no time. Every straight is a DRS zone.
I am not sure if you are watching the same season as us. But clearly redbull have the low drag low downforce car
No, what he said is right. The main part that is responsible for the drag are the rear tyres. Ferrari with it's big wide bathtub-shaped sidepods can direct the air over and around the rear tyres, but to do this they have to sacrifice some downforce. They make up for this loss using bigger front and rear wings. I am really not an expert but I guess they didn't expect that some other team (like redbull apparently) can build a car with smaller sidepods which do not have the mentioned purpose but can create a ton of downforce with some additional drag. If you look at the cars without their wings the redbull has more downforce and more drag. It is a trade-off scenario. Ferrari might have miscalculated the effect of the big wings on straight line speed. It will be fascinating to see which concept will prevail in the long run.
Low drag doesn't necessarily mean low downforce. It's aerodynamic efficiency that ultimately matters. From Imola Redbull are matching Ferrari in slow corners and are destroying them on the straights while being kinder on tyres.
Unless Ferrari reduce drag without affecting the downforce levels, they won't be able challenge Redbull from now on.
Love you’re videos mate, thank you
Surprised you didn’t sneak in an aero reference in the manscaped promo
Redbull is a high drag high DWF concept? What did u smoke mate?😭
So Redbull is Mercedes now and Ferrari Redbull? (fast on straight vs strong in corners)
Not really. Merc speed was coming from their superior PU. RB speed coming from their efficient aero whereas Ferrari have the best engine, not so good aero
The slippery track surface is different in Miami and with the heat maybe the downforce pushing the tyres into the hot track overheats them a bit. Could the extra bouncing cause faster wear on tyres? Red Bull is a clever team car setups.
I wonder how will Baku look like? Last years Max and Checo made all time in 1st and 2nd sector and Mercedes played catch up in 3rd.Wonder if it is going to be similar this year
The fact is RB hasn't done any major upgrades unlike Binatto said, RB out playing Ferrari by their setups which is clearly aero, that old man Legend Newey can pull anything from the car so it's bang on...Ferrari needs to extract some hp from their engines otherwise MAX will once again the champion of the world.
RB literally changed their sidepods after Bahrein tests.
@@willywonka5459 yess..that is what iam saying, RB's strength is aero...so it's going to be difficult for Ferrari.
I don't think Ferrari was quickest in qualifying. Max fd up a corner on his last shot.
However, Carlos was faster than Checo. Plus, all of the drivers did plenty of mistakes, Charles included, due to them not knowing the track perfectly
The cars are basically equally fast. The tiny differences in the laptimes in quali are due to the drivers. THAT'S what we've been waiting for for SO LONG: two drivers in different teams, but equally fast cars fighting for the title. I can't remember when this was the case the last time ..... must have been 2010 or even 2008 ....
He fucked up because he was pushing the car over it's capabilities
I think Max could also have taken pole in Miami. It was just 2 tenths and Max only set a banker lap. But then again, Ferrari could have probably also done a bit more. It's quite tight in qualifying though.
I feel it more comes down to the track profile. If you have a lot of straights or full throttle corners it favors the Red Bulls. Saudi, Miami and Imola which Max won, were all tracks with long straights or full throttle cornering. The next two races will have a very different track layout though.
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Horner is a trick master. Forced FIA into an engine freeze when they knew they had a 🚀. Honda power.
Yeah, but binotto made a good point after the Miami race saying Ferrari haven’t made any upgrade really since first race meanwhile Red Bull has
Are gearbox gears and final drive free to change to suit to each track ???
Usually I find these videos helpful but watching this video actually made me more confused... How could a high drag high downforce set up be faster on the straights than a low drag set up?
I agree it is a bit unclear, I think the high downforce aero allows them to run less wing angle therefore less drag but I may be incorrect
Car is high downforce, which allows for less wing.
i think he was not talking about faster on jst straights, he was talking about faster over all, on how ferrari was 1-2 in miami qualifing as their car was high downforce high drag but also a powerfull PU for a decent straight speed!
but RBR was massive in straights so during race when ferrari tyres degraded a lot, RBR just deleted them in straights!
this is my understanding!
This are only guesses. Maybe the video is completely wrong. Only way to find out wich car has less drag is to let them run with the exact same sized rear wing (or level of downforce). Also we need to know wich engine has more bhp.
RBR is very low drag but high downforce from the floor.
as a Lec fan ...i am pretty sure if anyone its only leclerc that can show max some starts in daylight .
but only if ....ferrari can fooking match RB. everything RB does sply the match strategy stuff is spot on, everything looks synchronized. on the spot, insted at Ferrari they dont react to situations like pitting Lec under safty car ( if that was opposite Max would have pitted 101% ). pitstops are crap 3.5 - 5.4 etc almost 2 second down on RB. Max has best wingman in f1 at the mo. at imola parez didnt let Charles through while sainz couldn't even hold til first corner.
bit worried , i dont think Ferrari are a match for RB strategically. looks like reminiscent of 2018 season.
They didn't have any new medium tyres left. Was no point changing the hards cause they were almost new and take 3-5 laps for hards to get in optimum temperature window.
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got that medium tyre thing but ..for me thats again lack of strategy. Safety Car stopage is important incident in every race specially if its a street circuit. Every possibility should be well prepared including having options on tyres . As i said RB would have definitely pitted max if we reverse the situation. ffs that's how they won title last year. RB are too sharp. if Ferrari will keep on having such excuses they should forget both titles. Whoever is their head of race strategy is a passive P*ssy guy who is only reactive not some one who thinks 1 step ahead.
@@cult_personality Agree. They should be prepared for everything.
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Different drivingstyles between Max and Charles also influence the way the tyres behave. Charles and Carlos have a much more aggressive style, hence the tyre degradation
Let's see Ferrari bring those upgrades in Spain. mguh turning the engines up and new floor.. I'm starting to think Ferrari is playing the long game with there upgrades were r.b is hitting the ground running with the imola upgrades.. this may turn around if r.b aren't careful with there early season upgrades
I think rb are showing off with the new upgrades. When Ferrari come with there’s I think rb will be like why we blow it all out early n
What are you talking about? Red Bull has built more efficient, low drag car, not Ferrari. That’s why they could keep up with Ferrari in the slow sections and not giving up their top speed advantage while having better tyre deg than Ferrari despite running lower wing and despite Ferrari having more powerful engine.
Is that based on anything but pure speculation? Ferrari has the stronger engine ?
Where did that conclusion come from
Yeah I wonder if they got mixed up
True it's a low drag car, but I don't think Ferrari has the more powerful engine, not yet.
@@edenbh3609 GPS Figures
Does anyone listen? High downforce car means ability to run less wing. Hence faster on the straights.
Nice video the competition between Redbull and Ferrari is refreshing to see! Bit of feedback - maybe don't start the video with an ad for Manscaped, it's quite irritating to start a video with an ad.
Yup but RB's only weakness is reliability. After i watched the last gp, I feel like they are running on thin line and they look like they are sacrificing a bit on qualifying so that the engine would survive through the race.
I love red bull as a team. They quite often don't have the outright quickest car in terms of lap time but always manage to compete with clever strategies.
They definitely have the quickest car in important areas. So overall they have the fastest car. Fastest top speed.
I’m a merc fan but let’s not forget who is driving the bull. He’s the X factor
Verstappen is so overrated it's baffling, he's great, but people act like his career has been incredible when it's been a bit poor to start with and then decent. Edit: he's in F1 that's talented already, just he's not the X factor for an F1 driver he's above average for an F1 driver, which is obviously amazing in general.
@@Alex-cw3rz true
@@Alex-cw3rz You're kidding right. Either that or just very poor at spotting talent.
@@Alex-cw3rz very true, he only one when he had the best car by miles and with only one team who was competitive for only half the season. His career before 2018 is pretty middle of the road and we have to remember although the Merc was the best the red bull was never far behind and in 2021 was better.
@@Alex-cw3rz I’m not a huge fan of the guy to say the least but I have to recognise is talent 🤷🏾♂️
If any of you guys watch Motogp, you would know why the Ferrari uses up more Tyre despite a high downforce setup. You see, with a high downforce, there is more grip produced by loading up the tyres. This increased load heats up the carcass of tyre. However, with lesser downforce but more slip, the carcass never overheats but only the surface of the tyre increases in temperature. It is however the overheated carcass that reduces tyre life and grip and not the hotter surface.
The tyre companies learnt this in Motogp back when Gary Mccoy changed his style and started sliding and smoking the rear tyre excessively and was beating the smooth measured riders. This went totally against the common knowledge at that time. With a little research, this is what the tyre companies concluded. This not only changed the way tyres were constructed in Motogp, but also the way the bikes were ridden in race conditions.
I remember seeing the onboard telemetry showing max reach 335kph in the long straight last weekend. I think that was the fastest a 2022 car has been in a straight line yet.
RBR has done a better job adapting their car at each track and the differing conditions. It also helps to have the best driver on the grid. But as the cost cap comes into play later in the season, Ferrari will start winning.
Just wait for the high downforce tracks. Such as the RedBull ring. There will be a fisty fight there. Funnily Ferrari will have the upper hand there in RB home. After they were humiliated in Imola
Red bull ring is not a high downforcr track…
Redbull Ring is pretty much all straights.
Red Bull ring is a power track with low/medium downforce requirements. Ferrari should do well at Catalunya and Monaco but get destroyed at Baku and Montreal.
@@ver3316 hey wait a minute. RB dominated there historically because they are cornering beasts. Why are they good there if Mercs always had better straight line speed
RB is good in corners because of their small nimble car (compared to Mercedes).
Mercedes have a high downforce for fast corners (High downforce don't really helped them in tight corners like Baku or Monaco)
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Great insight! Great analysis. Waiting for memes to top up the cake :)
Ferrari is higher downforce because they’re trying to maximise their advantage around corners. Red Bull is low drag, and to maximise the top speed advantage, they run lower downforce.
Ferrari is a lower drag concept that they are running in a high downforce configuration, Redbull are the opposite.
You're confusing how the teams have been setting their cars up for the races so far with their fundamental design concept.
Just think it through a bit, if Redbull were the lower drag design they would never be able to stay competitive against Ferrari with such a low downforce wing configuration, they would be so slow through the corners and would enter the straights at a lower speed so wouldn't get the top speed at the other end, but because their car has a fundamental downforce advantage they can run lower wings whilst still being fast enough through the corners to be able to get to the higher speeds at the end of the straights.
Your corner speed is directly related to your top speed down the following straight, if your too slow in the corner you won't make it up down the straight.
@@launchsquid I see what you’re saying. Maybe I was wrong lol.
Leclerc made an error at the last corner of lap 8 that cost him 6 tenths. And that was after several minor mistakes in the previous couple of laps that brought Verstappen into DRS range. That's why Leclerc was "easily" overtaken. When the roles were reversed Verstappen didn't make these mistakes.
If you look at top speed there is only a 2.1 kph difference between Leclerc and Verstappen.
Verstappen is like Senna & Schumi.
@@delusion2987 I would argue your comment is even more misleading. and that's not really an argument, more a statement of fact.
The top speed in qualifying is much more about where different drivers deploy their energy during the lap. For instance Leclerc was quicker on the speed trap in sector 1 and sector 2. Furthermore it wasn't even 10 kph, it was 8.7 kph in only one speed trap.
The race gives a much better indication because drivers aren't draining the entire battery on a straight and the differences average out.
"Of course, if max didn't use his battery correctly and was only 2.1 kph faster on that straight, that's on him"
Oh and if Leclerc was 8.7 kph slower in qualifying then it is not on him, then suddenly it is all on the car? Can you at least try to be logically consistent? I have enough patience for silly arguments, not so much for dishonest ones.
Wait im confused, ferrari high downforce setup how? I thought they had low downforce as binotto said they are getting low downforce wings for those straights also the race in their artical said theyv got low downforce wings
I saw an analysis of the race data and the RB is also quicker on the slow corners.
My theory is that with higher top speed, they can afford to push less in the low speed sections and as long as they get a good exit onto the straights, they’ll make up their lap times there.
Ferrari is getting its lap time from the corners which means they’re having to push to maintain lower lap times, punishing the tires more.
It does look like it, the Red Bulls lose out quite a lot in these slower corners. It is quite interresting to see how two concepts are nearly identically fast during qualifying.
@@Dorfus2323 agreed!
The most important aspect of coming out on top, is to have Verstappen driving for you.
Bro, Mazepin could have pulled that off easily...
Is this a joke? Why are you hyping him up so much, he's great but come on 10 seconds faster than perez who will have been told to not fight Verstappen when they were next to each other on the grid is not the best performance ever. It shows he's a little above average for now, earlier on his career pretty bog standard.
What is this obsession with Verstappen that you rate him as the greatest driver ever, he didn't even do better than expected he did better than standard for a driver in the top car, but that's it.
But I thought it was all car and no driver all these years with Merc on top?
@@Alex-cw3rz The same can apply for Hamilton at Mercedes which obviously isn't true. Just appreciate the battle man. No need to disrespect the drivers.
I think because of the power unit development freeze for the upcoming years, Red Bull decided to max their power units out even at the expense of reliability and have a decisive advantage there for now and the upcoming three seasons as well (because: development freeze). As for driveability, reliability and traction, those are things where they can catch up, relying on their impressive R&D experience. So Red Bull is ahead in a field where it's virtually impossible to catch up, while they may improve on things they aren't very much behind in to begin with. If the thing holds together it is looking very well for the Max/Red Bull combination.
Did anyone notice that the fact Checo is a Tyre Whisperer and Max is just phenomenal with his Overtaking skills..
It means Redbull technically didn't need to be so worried about their tyres as long as they can easing up the overtaking possibilities.. Leave the tyres to their skilled driver..
What a genius solution.. The question though, how long their reliability could hold on
To quote max… “its all the driver mate!”😂
And Michel Massi
@@edenbh3609 that salt get stuck in ur eyes? Max flat out out drove lewis by every metric in 2021’. Look up the stats, i dont care about ur what if’s or should have been’s.
@@pranc236 Max was arguably ahead in stats throughout the season but all it boiled down to was Abu Dhabi, idk whether it was a biased decision or decision under pressure, Masi messed up really bad with the safety car restart. If rules were properly followed, Lewis would have won but the race was manipulated for the sake of an entertaining last-lap showdown, idk about you but it was unfair no matter how you put it. Hamilton fans have every right to be angry about the situation.
@@xenonentity713 stop acting like that was the 1st controversial ending to a race. Or season… many mistakes were made by massi, all year. Most helped lewis more. None of that takes away max out drove lewis.
@@pranc236 I am not questioning Max's ability, he did his absolute best in the car he was given. The topic of discussion here is the controversial finale, you can probably turn a blind eye to such incidents but what transpired during the last laps was embarassing. As for favouring Hamilton in decisions is not totally true. If you see throughout the season, Hamilton was aptly punished for his offences. Do tell me the "favours" you are talking about...
Max is the greatest ... Lewis is a prune pudding
Yeah sure. Sadly he needed a human error in the championship to win the title. Sad.
@@aimanazrie8944 You're right and that human error was Lewis trying to kill him at Silverstone 👍👍 Without that and Bottas smashing into red bulls max would have been champion 3 races earlier 👍👍
without honda red bull would have no option but to go with a renault engine
so
honda deserves some appreciation on that front
If Ferrari concentrate on improving what they are good at - cornering -it might be a better tactic .
It worked for RB back in the Vettel days. Just a few KPH higher exit speed might keep the RBs behind or at least allow Ferrari to take advantage of DRS.
Ferrari is slower car and was slower car since Imola. Charles had no chance. It was a miracle for Charles to even get pole. I hope Ferrari can respond to RB’s upgrades soon.
not sure if you actually watched the video, Ferrari's car has pace. But they cannot maintain it with the tyre deg they currently have, you will see them be quick in qualy as its only one lap. But the speed of the red bull on the straights nullify any chance Ferrari has of them trying to overtake.
Funny how we are all now talking about the car and not the driver. When Lulu was winning all his races no mentio9n of the car ???? Now it seems the car is everything
how strange ?? Sadly Lulu still does not seem to have what it takes to beat his team mate ?? Over the years he has had many team mates and beaten them but this new team
mate is a part and has been a part of the team for some time hence he does not need a seteling in time as the others did Hence Lulu always came out on top Be very interesting
to see where Lulu comes out against the new boy will it not ???????? Only make these comments due to the media making a big thing of Lulu when in true terms it was the car
was it not ?????? Whatever its going to be a great season !!!!!!!!!!!
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Max fan here and when Lewis is off track I rather dislike him, but that is utter rubbish. A) Lewis has gotten some bad luck with safetycars but his laptime/pace is as good or maybe a bit better than Russell. B) Plenty of people give Max the credit he deserves and plenty of people were bitching about the OP Mercedes.
@@suckieduckie what a load of nonsens do we want to talk about his good fortunes as well ???????????
@@allanhughes7859 Every driver has good and bad fortunes. Max got unlucky in Hungary last year and in Baku, but he got the lucky break he needed in the end. Those things usually even out over a season.
@@suckieduckie ok fair comment !!!!!!
Redbull are doing a Ferrari 2018.
That speed is absolutely crazy
What’s got me excited for Barcelona is the development battle that we know we’ll see. Barça is Rnd. 1 imo because i’m pretty sure both RB and Ferrari will bring big upgrades, it’ll be interesting to see who wins the development battle throughout the season and hopefully Ferrari don’t drop the ball with this one
I’m getting tired of seeing cars with front wings whose wing elements essentially lay down at high speed. Merc for instance has front wing elements that lay down even at moderate speeds. And at Miami their front wing end plates had half of the ‘corner’ (where main plane joins the end plate) which has to allow MASSIVE outwash - which was one of the MAIN purposes of the new regulations which were to allow closer following & overtaking. If that car passed scrutineering, then F1 and the FIA regulations are simply put - a joke.
Outwash being a large part of the “dirty air” everyone complained about.
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Literally no one in the paddock cares about this. I'm pretty sure that all teams are doing this.
@@aimanazrie8944 They are. Hence the problem. If there ARE regulations - follow them. Otherwise - who are we kidding? It’s not a sport anymore.
I see in Leclerc a modern David Coulthard. He was a fucking fast, good driver but not on all tracks. There are a lot of them. Max has the "killer feeling" on all track, he is the ultimate driver.
No... He has been performing really well on all tracks. It's the car. He did put Max under tremendous pressure after safety car but when your car isn't as fast as the opponent. There is only so much you can do.
Max is much more experienced than Charles at this point. He knows how to handle the pressure. But that's because he has been in those situations unlike Charles.
"Ultimate driver" he couldn't even win an F1 season without the FIA (under their own admission) messing up the rules, did you see his career pre 2018. He's above average for an F1 driver (which is amazing for a general driver) this is why he always comes in at what is expected of the car the Red Bull is the best car on the grid this year and last and what positions is he coming oh yeah exactly where expected. This ludicrous worship of him is getting out of hand, he's great but how in the world could you call him the Ultimate driver.
@@Alex-cw3rz What's ludicrous to me is that people are still sleeping on how good he is. If you think he's just above average you're either going to be really surprised the coming years or really dissapointed because he's doing better than you hoped for.
@@Alex-cw3rz leave max and look at ur idol Lapmilton. Dude cant even beat his newbie teammate who started wayy back in the grid😭😭
@@suckieduckie show me how he isn't just above average as his record and the way he is in races shows exactly what I say that's why you didn't address it. I find it fascinating that you think people are sleeping on him, when he's being called the "ultimate driver" for barely winning a race that it would have been more of a suprise for the car he was in to lose.
It all comes down to whether Ferrari can lower the car closer to the ground and with the new floor eliminate porpoising plus increase downforce. That will allow usage of low downforce wings which will improve their straight line speed. Their performance in the first 5 races given their porpoising, low downforce level produced by their floor and not having a single upgrade until now is impressive.
IMPOSSIBLE...I think we need IN-SPECT-OR SEB on the case!