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It's hard for his team to ruin a one lap contests but when there are 70 laps then Ferrari will take every opportunity they can get
It's not just Ferrari there, I think Sharl is one of the best qualifiers, but clearly in race pace Max is ahead of him Sharl has good days but he's just also less consistant.
Brilliant driver but room for improvement on his end and a lot on his teams end.
Charles also likes to fock it into the wall once in a while. Imola and France alone costed him the entire lead he had over Max in Australia.
Ferrari is not the only part of the team doing silly mistakes.
@@gandalf_thegrey but those are the only two instances this season
@@Minifliek I think that charles is very much like senna tbh, very fast but can make mistakes, overall, at this moment, i think that max is a superior driver but down the line, we never know. Max might end up like vettel and charles might develop into a great driver, we dont know. Russel seems to be like prost but thats yet to be tested
@@gandalf_thegrey ferrari is definitely not the only one but they are 90% of the issues with Charles not winning races from 2019 to now. he's definitely improved not being as mistake prone or as aggressive as a whole, but he does need to know he can't do that in close title fights in the future.
his mistakes mean little this season when looking at the scope of things though. ferrari have been the ones who threw away the lead since spain.
The problem that has scandalously not been talked about enough, is the horrific leadership at Ferrari since the death of Sergio Marchionne. John Elkann has been dragging this team down a cliff since the former’s death, in the same way that Peter Ward dragged Lotus down after Colin Chapman’s death. The difference being that Lotus was struggling financially, and would collapse only a decade afterwards, so Warr couldn’t do much to salvage the team. Elkann, on the other hand, is only there because of nepotism and his relationship to Gianni Agnelli. In a world where ego has trumped logic at the Scuderia, I cannot see them winning any form of championship anytime soon, (10 years at least probably, lol) and that’s being generous. Leclerc should just say, fuck it, and leave this team to self-destruct. With how many top drivers this team has failed over the years, I would be genuinely shocked if any top driver will be willing to join this team. In the end, Ferrari wholeheartedly deserve it for their tradition of being such a tragic waste of money, resources, and talent. A crying shame, to say the least.
I cannot talk about Ferrari's inner struggles cause I'm not that aware of them. But the second part about Charles leaving, that was straight facts
Or he could grow a fucking set and make Ferrari realize they need him as much as he needs them. I find him to meek to be at Ferrari tbh. He needs to demand perfection from them.
Are the inside struggels not something that is ferrari in al ages, it is not really stŕeamlined
Well...damn. Could not have put it any better.
I’ve brought this topic up on multiple threads before and your exactly right!!!!!!
I think the phrase used is merchant. That aside excellent video as always. Can't help feel sorry for Charles. Not winning races on Sunday when you're the fastest on Saturday must hurt.
I put 'Merchand' on screen as a joke because that's merchant in French, clearly didn't make it obvious enough😂
@@Aldas001 It's "marchand" in French.
Juan Pablo Montoya says “hi!”
I think the thing everyone should be worrying about is when Ferrari is gonna stop playing around and actually look at their management with a logical mindset instead of living in a dream where they think everything they are doing is correct. Charles has been exceptional for Ferrari since 2019, and they’ve consistently robbed him of wins through a multitude of reliability failures, some bad strategies, and obviously sometimes his own mistakes.
I also think the Ferrari car is solely to blame for the tire wear issues. Sainz has a much smoother driving style and yet suffers from some of the same issues consistently. Silverstone was a prime example of this where they nearly (and should’ve) lost a race win to Mercedes because of how bad their tire wear is. Monza as well, I mean they couldn’t keep up with Max who had older tires and then they eventually were starting to lose a bit of time by the end of the race. It’s insane how they have this issue and cannot fix it still.
This year ferrari can thanks mercedez and totto for their tyres issues, since the floor changes ferrari was nerfed. Thanks to totto the title fight ended in spa
@@flyingberserker3965 toto was not the only one advocating for the floor change. there were multiple other teams/drivers also wanting this change for the sake of reducing the extreme porpoising people were having, and it's worked out massively.
you can thank ferrari for not being efficient enough to help be able to fix this issue. they've actually been one of the few teams who somehow has gone BACKWARDS in the second half.
@@blaine319 totto was the loudest voice, he was who have the most to win, and forget about all teather spectacle around hamilton with bouncing
@@flyingberserker3965 toto was the loudest voice because it is toto. hes always at the center of media headlines. everyone else had equivalently equal input on it and there were a lot of other people wanting change. stop trying to make it something where "toto is crying" or "toto always gets his way" when he isn't always the only person wanting change.
and the thing around hamilton and bouncing also was applying to many other drivers who were having back issues with the porpoising. it wasn't just hamilton. im glad they changed it. its better for the safety of drivers.
@@blaine319 they are the loudest for some reason, dont give excuses others the same, because many times other do the same nothing changed at all in the past.
And the back of the drivers, even before the rule change teams already have solved the problem, mercedez included, safety was just an excuse to hurt their rivals.
Currently, Leclerc and Verstappen both have gotten 18 poles, which I think is an interesting statistic.
Max has 31 wins and Leclerc 5. 31+5=36. 18+18=36. Illuminati confirmed
@@LilGril10 lol Max had 32 wins when you posted this
In my opinion that statistic perfectly shows what's happening in Ferrari. In qualifying the perfect lap is entirely in the hands of the driver. Of course the driver depends on the team to setup the car well but there is no strategy for the perfect lap. The perfect lap comes entirely from the talent of said driver. But a race win is dependent on both. Both the talent of the driver and the ability of the team to make a race wining strategy. Charles shows his talent in qualifying when the lap depends on him but then when it comes to the race he's basically always let down because of his team and you can't win races simply on talent.
So Charles would also be on pole in a Williams?
This is nonsense of course, the car and its setup are also an important part of qualifying performance. The quick warm up of the tyres helps him over one lap to be quicker than the RB just as much as it hinders him with tyre deg. For Max it is the other way round. Since getting to grips with the car Sainz has actually often been quite close to Charles in qualifying, and no one would call Sainz a qualifying monster.
Charles is a great driver, and a great qualifier, but he will also have to improve if he wants to beat RB and Mercedes next year.
@@rulifaller8474 No, the point is Charles can’t be fucked over by Ferrari over 1 lap
@@rulifaller8474 its not that he is shot at managing his tyres bro. The ferrari was just often shit at keeping the tyres alife, it was like that sometimes this year but very often in 2019. And then ferrari fucked up his races on numerous occasions this season plus he had retirements while beeing first and winning easily.
@@rulifaller8474 its not always the driver that makes the car worse, its the philosophy of the car which creates things like high tyre wear cause the ferrari is too harsh on its tyres. compare to mercedes who struggle with tyre warmup not because of their drivers but because of the car itself, which is why it runs in the races a lot better because it doesnt overuse/overheat the tyres too much
@@richardhobbs7360 Actually they can #Q3Brazil2022😱
Another thing to consider is also the fact that this is probably Charles's first attempt at a proper title challenge. Sure he's made mistakes and at times the team lets him down with reliability issues, but that's a common thing when you consider title contenders at the past also had the same kind of problem he has right now
What Charles and Ferrari need right now is a proper reset and a refreshed championship contending mentality for next season. Regardless of how this season ends, it's pretty clear to say that the Scuderia still needs to keep their heads together and try to get more feedback from their drivers in order to build that momentum coming into 2023
bro last yer max was in his first actual championship fight nd yet ge didn't crumble any sort nd also did nt forget th charles has been in junior formulas nd had championship fight is the thing tht he can't handle pressure if ut was charles in place of max last yr tht merc team would hve eaten him alive
not an excuse for charles.. at all. all this time no championship car and ofcourse they were begging for it. now his excuse youre making for himi is that he cant handle it> then he must fuck and give it to someone that can if thats the case. im sure alonso would do justic for a year. he kept up with charles in a shit car
@@vrajpatel2763 Max literally gets full support from team and strategists while Leclerc can't trust anybody there because everybody there doesn't know what they are doing. Stop thinking Max is some sort of utter talent over anyone else, he is nothing better than Leclerc and Russell, he just got better cars, better team and more years of experience, plus 2021 might have been his first wdc fight, but after multiple years of race winning machine, while Leclerc only experienced that in 2019 ocasionally
@@vrajpatel2763 max also has a lot more experience fighting at the front the though..
@@Monstermatt001 it's nt abt experience as Charles also had experience fighting for championship na in junior formulas nd it's nt always abt experience it's also abt handling pressure
There's always next year. Will they be title contenders till the end of the season or not? I can't take anymore disappointment Ferrari!
how many "next year is our year" we had before
I can take all the bumbling and stumbling they can dish up. 😂 Go Bulls Go
Sure you can (take more.) You've been taking it for untold years.
It took ferrari 3 years to become champion after they become a contender in 1997 and win it in 2000
But it could also go nowhere like when alonso become contender in 2010 and 2012 and vettel in 2017-2018
It’s not a problem with Leclerc at all, I wouldn’t even say that poor strategy has done them in this season, the fact of the matter is the RB18 is just a better car. Max can get better race pace out of it without sacrificing tyre wear, Leclerc has to choose between tyre wear or performance. Hopefully Ferrari can make a good car and slow it down on the horrible strategy calls Next Year™
Up until Spa, Red Bull wasn't a better car.
@Kapitan bro the team bosses themselves (this includes Ferrari) have acknowledged that the Ferrari is faster than the RB18. Only since Spa has the RB18 been a bit more dominant. Before that trying to make the argument the RB18 is better is simply, objectively false.
@Kapitan Not gonna waste a lot of time on you, so just a quick overview since Miami:
Spain (Ferrari faster)
Monaco (Ferrari faster)
Azerbaijan (50/50)
Canada (50/50)
British (RB faster)
Austrian (Ferrari faster)
French (50/50)
Hungarian (Ferrari faster)
Belgian (RB way faster)
Dutch (RB faster)
Italian (RB faster)
Singapore (RB faster)
Japan (RB faster)
So up until Spa, RB wasn't faster.
Genius
I think the problem is very much Leclerc and I’m tired of people not seeing it. He’s incapable of reading the race and does nothing but making mistakes. If Ferrari ever want to be WDC they need to get behind Carlos as he’s a far better driver
@@chasingthesunrise4139 ur right about Charles. That shyt will grow on u if u have it. Carlos might read it better but when u look at Ferrari and both drivers they are not championship material
There's also the problem of Ferrari being too focused on quali speed instead of race pace. Max always sets his car up for race pace, even if it means not getting pole. I recall him once saying something along the lines of "There's no point in having the fastest car over 1 lap when it's not the fastest over a race distance.". Being the fastest over a race distance also includes managing tire wear.
The problem with Ferrari is the same problem that brought down big name teams like Toyota, stubbornness. Their management and work culture clearly aren't compatible with being a competitive F1 team, which can be seen this season and in others where Ferrari start with a strong car but fall off by the end of the season. Also considering how Seb did at Ferrari and you get the picture that they can't manage their drivers or mid-season development. Hopefully something changes but they need to rip up however they're doing things now and start over.
The main problem is management. When your team principal says they are not looking to win the championship you can’t expect your team to give it their all
Indeed... Ayrton Senna statistics regarding pole positions 'ratio' versus Grand Prix victories up to 1987 were quite similar... 1985 and 1986... Ayrton got many pole positions... but only 4 victories...
I'm not ready to draw comparisons to Ayrton Senna. LeClerc isn't on the same level and he's in what should be a/the premier team. Senna was driving lesser machinery.
Yep... I agree... comparisons are never fair... indeed...
... different times... a different level of technology...
... Anyway... there's the obvious coincidence regarding those figures and statistics as Ayrton Senna achieved many pole positions in 1985, 1986 with the super quick Lotus-Renault... but... in that case... because of a lack of reliability or too much fuel consumption... only got 4 victories... 2 per year... 1985... 1986...
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I know it's a different situation and different circumstances... but I couldn't help mentioning this coincidence... the only case of someone with so many pole positions after those 1985 and 1986 seasons... and only 4 victories in total... Just that... a remarkable coincidence...
I still think he's ready for a title fight, any criticism went away after JAPAN GP, looking at Ferrari tyres. Sadly can't say the same for Ferrari itself
Our race pace is poor due to how the car is configured. This year being able to warm the tyres is more important than ever since the tyre blankets are limited to 60 C. Ferrari warms tyres better than any other car meaning we have that more grip than others in qualy. This has the downside that in the race we have an extreme degradation. Compare the mercedes where the car struggles to warm the tyres but we´ve seen hamilton or russel go on long stints without having a massive pace dropoff.
Nah mate, u kinda got it wrong. Ferrari has never been good this year at warming up the tires, that’s why u would often see them on dampy tracks doing two or three consecutive flying laps, whereas RB didn’t need to. They’ve always struggled to get the heat into the tires, another example was Hungary with very low temps, look at how they struggled to even compete with Merc. So yeah that’s the conclusion I got outta this cursed season🥲😣😊
@@Franceee___ So, if they're struggling to put heat into the tyres, how come that the Ferrari tyre management is so horrible compared to Redbull. Like in Japan, Leclerc tyres were absolutely destroyed at the end of the race, while Max could've easily do another 10 laps or so before they got in the same shape as Leclerc's. You would think tyre degradation would be related to overheating, no?
@@m.r.2718 what about singapore? that was a prime showcase of ferrari's tire deg fucking them over, and rb knew this, all you had to do was tell checo "yo, drive defensively", decimate leclerc's tires by doing absolutely nothing, and boom, 8s gap.
you mitigated the lone mistake you've made all season, and max has better chances to become champion in japan.
@@m.r.2718 lack of downforce, apparently they can't run as much wing as Red Bull without becoming a brick in terms of airflow, this means that the car slides more, tyres overheat by this additional friction, and tarmac grinds down their tyres much more easily
@@CannibalSoggoth actually no. RB runs less wing most of the time but they have a fantastic floor that works great even at higher ride heights. If anything, the car doesn't have a good enough floor to run less wing most of the time. It isn't all bad though since in peak downforce they probably make the most, especially through low speed corners because they're relying more on overbody aero
Some people talk about Leclerc as if he was a multiple worldchampion when he only has 5 wins..
A lot to prove. A lot to improve.
If Ferrari were a competent organization, Leclerc would have a lot more than 5 wins. You know this.
@@quigglyz if I had wings I could fly
@@quigglyz Yeah maybe 3 or 4 more but not that many. Leclerc has binned it himself on multiple occasions as well. Almost as many times as Ferrari has done for him.
@@quigglyz Oh and stopping to focking it into the barriers would be awesome too.
I really, really like Charles, but his fans are Grade A delusional.
Everyone was there at some point in their career, it's called the start of it. Don't forget that Leclerc has only had 2 seasons where wins were even possible.
It’s very easy. Leclerc overachieves on a saturday which makes him look bad on a sunday. While on a sunday, Leclerc finishes where he should finish in that car. Whitout Leclerc Ferrari would have had 1 pole and 1 win this season.
I don't know why more people have this view point
@@mikeyamissah7968 Or on a saturday he finishes where he should be because Ferrari is the fastest over one lap. Sainz is always within 2 or 3 tenths in qualli,
Great edit! 👍
I think Ferrari is a team that crashes the spirit of its drivers. Vettel in German GP 2018. Leclerc in French GP this year. 😭
😂 how is that Ferrari fault those are driver mistakes
So if Ferrari drivers put in the wall it's the team's mistake?
If Ferrari had not made the strategic mistake in the first place, the drivers would not have been under so much mental pressure. Both Leclerc and Vettel are arguably the best drivers. Unless there is a toxic atmosphere in the team, you don't usually see that much screaming and tears of frustration after a crash. It's like a good child being raised by toxic parents and having his spirit dampened. I don't think crashing into a wall is solely the driver's fault.
@@kanan1361 Your argument is the exact reason why Ferrari and there drivers will never improve. You begin by admitting when you´ve made a mistake. And then you learn and improve instead of coming up with excuses. Saying those crashes a the result of team pressure is just a load of BS.
@@norbertjanssen814 OK. I acknowledge your opinion.
Honestly no matter who’s driving the Ferrari, they will always bottle it. Many years of repeating the same mistakes with the same people, no chance.
And the sutborness to not change the most blatant causes of mistakes is atrocious
This guy is a champion. He will fix this. Look at Max. He developed to be a champion because he is a champion
more like developing with the pain for leclerc
What exactly will he fix? Ferrari's Italian culture and concomitant organizational incompetence? No, I don't think he'll be able to fix that. Ross Brawn did it, but Charles is merely a driver.
I concur 💯, Charles will bounce back. He's the one who'll bring back Ferraris' glory days.
Aside from the tyre deg issue, if Charles had faith in the Ferrari team, like how Max does with RB or Lewis did with Merc, then he wouldn't need to keep over-driving the car. An unfortunate consequence of being in that team. I think he's been very unfortunate with circumstances that he lost so many "shoulda been" wins. Probably had at least 5 lost due to reliability. Also, in Austria, Ferrari were the ones with better tyre deg than RB, so they can do it.
The big issue for Ferrrari is that they can’t develop a car during the season. This season i very similar to the 2017& and especially the 2018 season were they start the season strong but can’t keep up in the development race. And on top there inability to develop a car they make a lot o mistakes at the track. You should make a video comparing Ferraris titele bids in 2017 & 18 to 2022 they would look pretty similar. Just as they learned nothing from those years typically ferrari
leclerc is very, very good on sundays. the fact that even sainz, who's know for being easy on the tyres, has struggled with them in multiple races this season, shows you that the car is far more responsible for these tyre problems than leclerc
Sharl’s more a Saturday man than the Saturday man himself these days
It’s not hm,it’s the team sadly
@@fqeagles21 not saying it’s his fault,just pointing out the facts
@@fqeagles21 he had his moments too
@@kidnamedfinger420 he had his moment too, who doesn't, even Max and Hamilton made a lot of mistakes in their carreer, but at least they have a team that covers their mistakes...Ferrari can't even change 4 tires in less than 12seconds, and fighting against max with a team that could fuck up your race at literally every pit stop, puts A LOT of pressure on you.
@@kidnamedfinger420 true but only a bit
I think its a car related issue. In 2019 seb also struggled from deg. And in the first part of 2022 deg wasnt really an issue
I think the problem is very much Leclerc and I’m tired of people not seeing it. He’s incapable of reading the race and does nothing but making mistakes. If Ferrari ever want to be WDC they need to get behind Carlos as he’s a far better driver
@@chasingthesunrise4139 yeah sure, Leclerc is the reason his inters looked like they were trying to be Lewis’ from Turkey while Max’s looked brand new
@@chasingthesunrise4139 how?
@@chasingthesunrise4139 incapable of Reading the race? I mean, do you remember Bahrain? Verstappen overtook him two times at turn 1, and then Leclerc reovertook him three corners later. I wouldn't Say he can't read races, beacuse he knows how to battlle on the track. The thing is tyre degradation, and it's thing that Leclerc should work at. On the other hand Sainz also had problems with tyres, so that also might be a car, But anyway Charles should work at tyre degradation to be as competetive as Max
@@chasingthesunrise4139 yeah, and does max have to read races? he doesnt. he has a competent strategy team and leclerc does not. how is it fair that leclerc needs to double duty as strategist and driver? does he win a world strategist championship aswell?
JPM's Pole-Win statistic is a testament to how many times his BMW engine exploded
Whats interesting tho is that the way the Ferrari is described as pointy, makes me wonder how Max would perform in the Ferrari as we know he loves a pointy car!
12wins a season atleast
he'll be able to find the limit...but then again tyre wear will be a big issue! saturday's will be good but sundays will be more difficult
@@farhanrahman7119 Wouldn't have more than 6. Ferrari has tyre issues, is less reliable than Red Bull and team management is horrible.
Valterri’s issue is not a mental one, he just lacked the race pace. Few drivers can drive very quickly whilst managing the tires well - look at how many times verstappen has qualified poorly but has such immense race pace that he just breezes past everyone
I think people place too much emphasis on what they think is the mental aspect of the sport. In reality, drivers with “poor mentality” are there because they’re not performing, which affects their confidence. Performance affects mentality, not the other way round. Look at lando Norris - he openly admits to having mental health struggles but his performances has boosted his mental strength, because he has confidence in himself
It's both. When you have a bad weekend you can either pick yourself up or let it demotivate you. And when you are on cloud nine with your performance you can still get overconfident and make the odd mistake, and that will demotivate you. The difference between letting a bad performance demotivate you for the rest of the season and make you perform poorly for the rest of the season is your mental fortitude.
Good video and an interesting issue. I think Charles is the real deal. I think he has two problems that he is fighting - the first is the speed of Max in that Red Bull. That combo really is too quick and Charles has to push and push to give himself the sniff of a chance. The second issue is Sainz as his team mate. Charles is quicker and a better racer than Carlos but Carlos is trying to prove otherwise and Ferrari haven’t quite got the message yet that Carlos is Number 2 and Charles is Number 1 and doesn’t need all the aggro of having constantly to prove he is the quicker driver. Once that is sorted out Charles will be in a similar position to Max and Lewis of having all the support for him. Charles will be up to it but will Ferrari? By the way the phrase would be Pole Merchant not Pole Merchand as Merchand doesn’t mean anything. Thanks again for a video that needed making.
tbh sainz was presented all opportunities to be on level with Charles but the man is simply not on theirs (+Max) level. He should've handled GB to Charles to keep championship hopes alive
This year's Ferrari seems a bit like the Mercedes W04 from 2013 which was really quick in qualifying but was too rough with the tyres and couldn't keep up in the race. I can't really see a logical reason why someone would be fast over one lap consistently but somehow slow on multiple laps.
It’s pretty logical. Tire deg.
Well, Ferrari can't do an illegal tyre test either so...
@@berkhanogulcanakcay7336 😆
Two problems could be identified in the first half of the season: strategy and reliability which both prevented Charles from winning more than once. In the second half, tire wear was added. I think it's mostly the car here because wear and tear wasn't that big of a problem in the first half. In Australia, the car has even had much less degradation than the Red Bull. The TD39 seems to have changed something here and narrowed the operation window for the Ferrari. If Ferrari knows about the problems, it can be fixed for 2023. Charles can only make sure that he doesn't always just push and also allows the tires a slow introduction. The new Pirelli 2023 tires could help with that too, as they're supposed to be sturdier, that could help the tire eaters. When this is solved, Charles ratio should get better, it is not that he can't win, he showed that 5x already but most of the time the Ferrari is slower on the long run while faster over one lap. Taking this into account, and also looking at Charles' extraordinary strength on one lap, the bad ratio is explainable.
Ferrari also screwed Leclerc when they choose to not tell Sainz that he is the #2 driver (Sainz took away point from Leclerc when his teammate was chasing Max in the Driver's title race); Ferrari also had reliability issues which cost Leclerc in the Title chase with Max; Leclerc is too nice of a driver who always is a nice person
Realistically, Max was gonna be a champion anyways. I think Ferrari knew this already after the big point deficit Leclerc had to Max. Telling Sainz that he is a number 2 driver is not a good move. Forcing him to move aside when Leclerc was not even fighting for championship is stupid. Remember, Sainz is not that far off to Leclerc. He has been very close to Leclerc this year in quali, and last year in races. He just needs to combine the 2 and he will be right up there with Leclerc fighting for the championship
@@LilGril10 Sainz took away points when he shouldn't have (although Ferrari reliability screw Leclerc even more TBH); Ferrari is the creator of their problem..
hes a very fast qualifier not a bad racer...add to that a team that builds cars im the hybrid era for one lap pace only
Charles being a self critical driver will definitely be worried and make adjustments, but Ferrari is the one that really needs to put their heads down under the microscope. IMO*
I'm a Ferrari fan, but Leclerc has to go, he's just wasting his talent with the 🤡 in our team.
He has nowhere to go my guy. He‘d never join RB and dare to fight Max in the same car and the Merc seats aren‘t free either. Everything else is a downgrade.
You had me in the first half lol
@@Reaz399 nah he he's ready to fight with Max and even beat him, Ferrari isn't.
Everything else is a downgrade, so let's hope Ferrari improves (pff), otherwhise Max won't have competition for the next 4 years.
Maybe when Lewis will retire he will join Mercedes, but after Hamilton vs Rosberg i don't think it will happen
@@jongcena2555 he is not ready man. Charles will find a way to crack under pressure, while Max won’t
@@syndicategaming1668 France was a rookie mistake i know but man: with 20sec gap behind him i can bet Max doesn't feel the pressure...he could literally drive with one hand.
The fact is that at least Max have a team that covers him if he does a mistake, Ferrari on the other hand can't even change 4 tires in less than 12seconds, and i think that you can agree with me that fighting against max, with a team that could fuck up your race at literally every pit stop, puts A LOT of pressure on you.
And yes, because at this point it's a fact, Redbull is simply a better car than Ferrari, that ate the tires in 3 laps.
I don't understand why you disregarded 2019 it's a good sample size with a competitive car, I don't think if it was legal or not matters to the question you're asking
The word Merchant has being 1 of the funniest words in the F1 meme community for some while
If you think Charles race pace is bad go watch F2 Bahrain 2017 it is an absolutely perfect drive and one of the best ever imo
Oh thanks, I was always curious about the wins from pole position stat... To be fair, this year's cars are different, as in, track position isn't as important because following a car is much easier now, and since cars are more draggy than they were last year, the combination of slip stream + DRS is much better than any year before. If you think about it, the car who is in front theoretically should have a slower pace than the car behind, that's why Red Bull aren't hitting over themselves for not winning more poles.
I just don't see where people are coming from when they go around claiming that Leclerc just has no race pace, looking at this season alone, his race pace has never been lacking against his main marker, which is Carlos in the same car. Charles has always had the pace this season to fight for the top 3, it's just different events prevented him from finishing there such as reliability, strategy etc.
Reminds me of 2002 when Montoya was winning all those poles, yet Schumacher was winning all the races. Williams BMW had great 1 lap pace, but the Ferraris had better race pace.
This is the new "Kimi can't drive the car without blowing up his engine".
Exactly.
I think this more of a Ferrari problem rather than a Leclerc problem. As you mentioned, Leclerc drives phenomenal, correcting mid-corner, letting the car slide across the track to gain time and improve his (mini)sectors. His style very much reminds me of how Verstappen handles his car. However, in contrast to the Ferrari, the RedBull is very loose and fickle and therefore reliant on a driver that knows how to correct it. Just like Leclerc does. I think he would fit better at RedBull than at Ferrari.
Max is just head and shoulder above the rest this season.. No one comes close.
Going to watch later but the answer is yes but because of Ferrari's incompetence.
😂😂😂😂😂
And leclerc errors
@@farhanrahman7119 he made two costly mistakes and lost 37 points for himself in total (Imola 12 and France 25). How about the rest?
@@mertcanhacfazloglu4862 this. Charles should be able to afford ~2 mistakes if it weren't for his team
Leclerc reminds me Mika Hakkinen in 1999. Many pole positions, but reliability and a couple of mistakes just like Imola kill his season.
If Lewis don't stay in Mercedes after 2023, Charles would like to replace him.
But Hakkinen won 1999 season.
I just don't get it Hakkinen won the 1999 title but Leclerc was like 110 points away from it. These seasons are completely different
Charles at Mercedes would be amazing.
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 mika became champion because he was the one who did the fewest mistakes. what if Schumi was not injured?
I actually see the comparison. Given how Irvine pushed Hakkinen down to the wire (similar to the Leclerc vs. Perez battle this year), Schumacher would have dominated that season without the brake failure and subsequent injury at Silverstone. The Ferrari of 99 was clearly the superior car over the season (hence why they won the constructors, just as the Red Bull is the superior car this year).
Having watched the Singapore GP live at turn 13, I can see Ferrari's problem with their tyres. Charles just struggled to put down power on the exit of slower corner. Fast and medium corners aren't so much of a problem.
I used to think my life is miserable most of the time, then I remember Scuderia Ferrari still exists
i think the valtteri comparison was a bit harsh as he was the second driver for Mercedes and charles is ferraris current number 1
Actually, the situation at Ferrari is very ambiguous, and it is part of the problem. They don't officially a first and second driver. Sainz is actually the favorite driver because he brings i.portant sponsors, but Charles is clearly much better driver. Ferrari should make it clear and officially promote Carlos, but they wait for him to take the lead in points.
high downforce means more wear the tyres; tyre wear also depends on the drivers TBH....
11:17 I think you totally missed the point.
They know what's causing tyre ware.
DT39 killed their performance, but the real problem is the brake cooling system: at the beginning of the championship they didn't suffer so much from it because temperatures were lower. Both of these problems couldn't be fixed because of budget cap, while RedBull kept bringing updates every race (pretty suspicious if you ask me). That's why it's just wrong and insulting that RedBull could breach the budget cap last year (and this year too?) and FIA is acting like this is not a big deal.
The biggest reason for the 18/5 ratio is probably the fault of Ferrari, wrong calculations and bad pitstops aswell.
But Leclerc also sometimes makes his own mistakes under high pressure, something you wouldnt see that much with Hamilton or Verstappen.
i think leclerc is unbelievably fast on a single lap, the best of all the actual grid... but in races he struggle for the limits of his car (tyres degradation is too high compared to mercedes and red bull, and reliability) and the limits of his box (montecarlo, silverstone, hungary just this year)... cause in terms of driver he did the same number of mistakes as max: 2! charles in imola and paul ricard, max spain and hungary, the only difference is the result of the error that one can attribute to pure luck
I haven't noticed enough of Leclerc's steering inputs, however, if the, as you said, microcorrections are anything to go by, that's very similar to Schumacher's style, however, the 2000's Ferraris had very strong rear balance and were designed around The Michael. Not saying they're on the same league, though.
Feels like Ferrari's speed is almost always overshadowed by ultimately being on the team or the drivers at this point. It's like the car just burns through all its tires just to keep up in a race and then all of a sudden both drivers are forced to conserve pace so much in the end that it stops them from being competitive as Red Bull. Hopefullt they can fix these issues.
That long list of poles not becoming wins is a pretty bad record to have, and pretty much is the icing on the cake on how this year was supposed to be Ferrari's year and how they binned it so badly instead.
To be fair to Charles, the bulk of those Pole Positions have been in 2022, and their 2022 car is a great qualifier but just not as competitive as the Red Bull over a race distance.
That alone significantly changes the argument being made.
No... not worried about that...
My worries are about having Binotto and Mekies leading the team... that's Scuderia flaw...
One way to solve it put Charles in a Mercedes or redbull he'll have a better conversion rate. Still highly rate Charles and think he could challenge for championship if ferrari can sort themselves out.
As a Red Bull fan I like that idea, let Leclerc and Russell take points of each other.
Me to would be quality viewing to see that happen week in week out.
Nope, it shows that when sheer driving skill is required most over one breakneck lap, he's as good as it gets. That Baku 2021 pole was sensational, talk about outperforming a car around a specific track.
What about Sainz tire wear?
I don't think we should be worried about this yet, for example, Senna had similar statistics early in his career with pole to win conversion, and of course I'm not putting the two on the same level, I'm just pointing out that it's far too early to judge Charles' career.
This is only Charles' 2nd season in a car that is capable of winning. It's way too early to start questioning these things, because he's really only just started in terms of fighting at the front.
Also Charles has learned to manage his tyres very well, it used to be his weakness. But if the car is loose at the rear, as the Ferrari is, especially since Spa, then there's not much a driver can do if the only way to drive it is to hang it out a little bit to control the oversteer/prevent understeer.
Great analysis as always however, good points brought up.
I think Leclerc is still the issue. Driving style impact the tire wear.
No... he puts a lot of seconds on sainz too (who is good at managing the tyres)
charles was robed of like 5-6 wins dew to relliability issues and bad strategies so how is his problem not getting the wins he had to? in the first half of the season ferrari was clearly the faster car on 80% of the races but could not convert to wins because of their own problems. and when charles sees his team not taking responsibility for their mistakes he knows he has to make this up with driving more aggresively and thats why i think he made some mistakes two. he really loves ferrari and he is a very kind person as it seems and thats why he hasnt exploded on them still but if next year his own team steals the world chanpionship from him again i dont know if we can recover from that
You forgot to mention that Bottas often took team orders to let hanglulton pass. He could have had a lot more wins from pole!
Bottas also really had some bad luck, its like he is cursed sometimes, remenber baku when he leads in the last laps and have a puncture. This kind of moments was what breaked him mentally for sure.
Yeah feel like Bottas isn’t as comparable, due his position as a second driver in Mercedes.
They have a car that's fast in qualifying trim on light fuel. Charles has always been fast over one lap. The "Flex Floor" rule effected Ferrari, it didn't effect RBR. Also, Ferrari has problems running a race, Red Bull and MV don't. That translates to Red Bull dominance. Red Bull didn't get a whole lot faster, everyone else got slower.
F1 is all about race pace and tire preservation thru management of tires.
In the pre-season testing there were talks from pundits how Max has changed his driving style to a smooth, less acrobatic style, while Charles is still doing the same style Max was last year. So my guess is that playing smooth this year is the better thing to do.
Max drives the RBR not Ferrari, Leclerc or anyone can not change driving style like this, comparing someone that changed his driving style on completely different car, it's not easy like this.
Amazing videos as always
Leclerc is not a Pole Merchand.
But the problem is that the ferrari car is terrible in race pace compared to qualifying
The Ferrari isn't bad in the race, they are easily second fastest. I am certain that Lewis would have appreciated it very much if the Mercedes had the same speed as the Ferrari. I am quite certain that Max would also have become world champion in a Ferrari this year. Or Lewis for that sake, if he had driven the Ferrari and Charles the Red Bull instead of Max.
Charles just has (imo) not the consistency yet to beat both of them over the course of a season in equal machinery. Also I don't think he is as complete as a driver.
The problem is really strategy and reliability issues in terms of the drivers Charles is for sure the number one he’s consistently faster then Carlos but does sometimes make his own mistakes and in terms of Sainz he doesn’t have the outright speed to consistently beat Charles but he’s quick enough to put pace him and out race him from time to time and he’s usually much better in the races then Charles sometimes he can actually over rule Ferraris strategy when he can tell what’s the right tyre or the right time to pit which Leclerc can but doesn’t do. So the drivers aren’t too much of a concern but Ferraris leadership , strategy and reliability issues are happening too often which is letting the team itself down and Mattia doesn’t own up when the team has made a mistake even nico rosberg was right when he said “even f2 and f3 teams make better strategy decisions” so until Ferrari get these issues sorted they will never be able to contend for championships.
Yes
They have more tyre wear because they are required to gain time in corners. Red bull doesn't need to push as much because they can regain time on the straights. Speed is king. If the car behind cannot overtake on the straights
Yes.
I haven't seen the video yet, but based on the thumbnail, whatever it is: Yes.
Can u analyse all the races once this season 2022 completes and see if its Ferrari's reliability issue or bad luck or Charles Leclerc himself responsible for the debacle Ferrari or rather Charles faced, especially during the later part of the season.
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It's unfortunate that Max's brilliance is shadowing his performance. Max is Good, forget 2022 season. 2021 he showed us what he can do to Hamilton in his supposedly faster car.
I think it really shows the state of the team, the strategies and the politics. The car is fine, the car is really fast but the team really fucks up when it comes to racing and doesnt seem to understand how to react to other teams strategies
yes
Merchant not Merchand
'Merchand' is merchant in French lol
@@Aldas001 no Merchant in French is Marchant
He has only 4 pole positions less than Alonso. But Alonso has 32 race victories
Yeah but still, Charles is great in 1 lap, over the full race though he is middle of the pack at the best of times, maybe he will get better with time but as it stands blaming ferarri or the car is just wrong.
Also saying Bottas is a saturday driver is just wrong on so many levels, his low pole percentage is mainly because mercedes forced him to be a supporting driver for lewis, he's still rapid on sundays, something you can't say for Leclerc
the problem for Leclerc actually most of the time is the strategy calls. I mean just name a few: Monaco 2022, Silverstone 2022, Hungary 2022 which their rival even Merc laugh their heads off even Max was thinking why the hell they on Hards??!
@@johnlau6749 Yes Ferraris strategy team is awful, but it doesn't change the fact that their main driver cant compete with any of the other top drivers in terms of race pace, even on the same strategy
@@jkae4795 that's another thing but even when u swap leclerc with lewis for example, Lewis's race still screwed by awful strategy calls. In other words, regardless u got star drivers or not, strategy calls decide everything actually
I feel this issue is magnified with the need of the community to magnify every little thing Ferrari does wrong for memes
Of course you can't deny tyre wear nor charles being sometimes too agressive
But in all honesty if you go race by race where he took pole and didn't win the only one where there's not a good enough reason to explain it is France
And what's worse is that now there's loads of people saying Leclerc's shit/overrated, etc instead of just analysing things how they are
Adrian Newey having a field day designing these new regulation ground effect cars which was his breakfast lunch and dinner back in the day.
Yep lol.
Whenever engine development is frozen and aerodynamics becomes the name of the game it's Newey who rises to the top. Always has been, always will be until someone with more knowledge/experience comes along.
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 very true… and nobody will probably be better than Newey until he either retires or dies.
tbh i think it is prolly charles just overdriving the car at this point
Depends on reliability senna for example out qualified Prost 28-4
88-89 on paper he should of demolished him. But when you go through the seasons and take away mechanical failures in reality he did. Not so much 88 that was close. But definitely 89. Also he achieved 68 poles and only 41 wins again go through the seasons he broke down from 20% of race's most of them he was leading. In contrast Schumacher broke down about 10% Hamilton only around 5%
Although these day's they don't have near as many mechanical failures. So I would expect a win, pole ratios to be much closer
Senna and Prost made different choices. You don't get that speed for free. Senna was barely more reliable than Mansell in that tissue paper Ferrari. Count back doesn't help when you only finish half the races. Prost claims Senna got a special engine which I believe but I also believe it was Sennas downfall in 1989. All that power isn't free it's hard on not only the engine; but the rest of the car. Prost may lose every time to Senna head to head with his package(and even occasionally to Mansell and Berger) but the wily Frenchman finished almost every race on the podium.
So Sennas special engine wasn't a conspiracy, but a choice that really cost him. Ferraris paddle shift cost them even more, but Barnard knew it was the future.
Also, Prost outqualified Lauda 1.3 to 3.1 seconds 13/16 races in 1984 but still lost the Championship by half a point. The time difference between Senna and Prost was much smaller.
@@adampetten5349 why didn't Nakajima or Gerhard Berger complain about their Honda engines being down on power compared to senna's ? Mexico 89 for example. On Prosts wiki page it says Prost claimed to have disadvantage there with HP. But if you watch the race he beats him on straight because he brakes late had nothing to do with hp. Also Italy, again he claims senna's car was making more HP. But infact Nigel Mansell recorded the fastest lap of the race. And I think on paper the Ferrari was 25 HP of so down on the McLarens. Also Prost had more faster laps 88-89. Personally I think Prost was looking for excuses. to me it was the way senna tapped the throttle keeping the revs up were as Prosts smoother driving style let the revs drop to low. Makes perfect sense and further more you can watch footage and hear the engines coming out of corner's. You could hear senna's engine was always a few hundred revs higher then Prosts and more so in the engines sweet spot.
@@speedmann194 Berger wasn't a threat but a good number 2. Gerhard was light years faster than Nakajima who was 4.05 seconds slower than Senna and outscored by Ayrton 53-6. Even Piquet with Eyesight issues was 2.5 seconds faster than the Japanese driver. Berger was only 0.285 seconds slower than Senna in 1990 but didn't have the racepace of Ayrton and Alain. His reliability was much worse than Sennas-the opposite of Prost. Even top teams didn't really have the resources for two number ones but Piquet and Mansell made it work in 1987 and Ayrton/Alain in 1988-1989 whatever the personality conflict.
Mansells paddle shifter might have been working well in Italy 1989 and he was very aggressive. Prost also decimated him on Sunday in 1990 despite being edged in qualifying.
Prost and De Angelis looked like two top drivers working well in 1985 but the Italian pounded Senna for the first few races then was somewhat dominated by the Brazilian after.
I find it hard to believe Senna had only 50% reliability in 1989 in a less powerful car than Prost. Senna was pretty easy on his machinery...almost as easy on it as Prost.
@@adampetten5349 wasn't there times Nakajima was competitive against piquet ?
Where as he was never competitive against senna he was always demolished. I personally don't believe senna's engines had more power. I watched a interview here on CZcams with Ron Dennis. And he said both drivers had become paranoid about their engines. So the way they settled it was a coin toss To who got what engine.
This is the thing, while Max and Charles are similar talents, Max is so much more superior because of experience in races. Max has had a podium car for 6 years, Charles only 2. This is Charles first title contender. It’s not long ago the whole ‘Crashtappen’ meme was a thing. Give Charles some time, he’ll be okay
I'm a Max fan but Charles is a very great racer too. Absolutely champion material
I won't be so sure, that Boats was driving "same" car as Lewis. Just like in RB. I will debate that 2nd driver doesn't have the same car. And I think that, that was a reason why Riciardo left Red Bull
That worked out well , LoL
I actually think that the tire degradation and results is partially in Charles hands because I think he pushes so hard and damages the tires, but he probably pushes because that is the only way he can extract enough performance to keep pace with the Red Bull. In Imola and Paul Picard he pushed too hard and made mistakes that cost him big points. In Spain and Azerbaijan his engine blew and Canada he suffered knock on effects for an engine penalty from Baku. At Monaco, Silverstone and Hungary his race was compromised by strategy. I think on the whole, the Ferrari team and car were not ready to challenge for a championship. Red Bull and Mercedes have both been through the crucible of a season long battle for a championship that hardens a team, tempers it for the long war that is an F1 season. Ferrari as a race team are not on that level yet. Charles only won one race where Max also finished the race. His other two wins were at races where Max had engine failures.
I think some of Charles not winning from pole is Ferrari and their horrendous strategy calls. And well Charles binned a couple of times. Let’s call it 70/30.
Leclerc ain’t perfect, but he’s very talented and will likely grow. Ferrari have let him down countless times and I think he should push for a move to Mercedes when his current contract runs out.
Yes we should be worried but not for him, for Ferrari. If the engine didn't explode or have shit strategies, that race win number would be a lot higher
It would've been neck to neck constructors battle or Ferrari would've been ahead , shoulda woulda coulda i suppose .
For Valtteri you forgot to mention “Valtteri it’s James”……. I mean it even became a meme.
I love the way everyone mentions Ferraris way to circumvent the rules but nobody ever mentions how Mercedes were so fast with their reintroduction of oil burning, the FIA had to step in and reduce the amount of oil available but Mercedes were allowed to burn more oil as the rules only effected new engines that were introduced, hence their superior straight line speed.
The drivers do very little to develop the car, they can specify stiffness, damping, wing angles, basic limited adjustments. If it was like you say about great drivers being able to work with the team and develop a car, how is it Hamilton, the most successful driver of all time and George
Robot-ussell can’t improve their current car?
LeClercs problems are mainly from Ferraris clownery, there’s only so much a driver can do when he’s racing against the entire grid and his own team is sabotaging his efforts. If Ferrari had a competent team like red bull or Mercedes the drivers championship would still be on.
Leclerc has to overdrive the car to get it to perform. Ultimately it's the car and probably the tradeoff between downforce and speed.
The problem is not building a faster car is building a good team and leaders Mattia Binotto is one of them how he cant even figure out solution for their tyre degradation and Strategy issues that is their primary issue for years. It doesn't matter even if you build a rocket car if you cant even fix issues that existing for ages like Strategy and tyre wear you re not going anywhere. Take a look at RB and Mercedes how they quickly turn things up. I have never seen them not fixing their problems for long like Ferrari. To be precise this issues are existing from the years of Kimi, Alonso and Vettel. Im just gutted how they cant see this and refuse to fix. Its an issue of bad Leaders and management.
He is different he wants to win the race at any cost if he had a good car like bahrain,australia and austria he can do awesome job he is relentless and good at strategy he is not like verstappen he is different, with less power car charles can clinch the pole position by his driving techniques and I want to remind u something 8 years of career poles is equal to 4years of career poles and race win it's very different there come strategy,timing,car reliability,downforce setup,tire management ......etc success will cover all the mistakes they have made....
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Charles makes too many unforced errors though - he;s like 2017 Max and needs to get to 2021 Max to fight for a championship. Yes, the car and Ferrari need to match his performance as well.
The main difference is Max's team was behind him and helping him. Binnoto dislike Charles and would not help him over Carlos
Yes.
Two things:
1. Charles needs to be more assertive than he was last season entering 2023. If he can't be more than assertive, then there's nothing in this world that Ferrari can do but to let him and Carlos duke it out on track. He needs to show to Ferrari that he IS the guy and he should be brave enough to tell his team that Carlos will always play second fiddle to him since he is the chosen one to don the Scarlet Reds of Maranello.
2. Ferrari needs to fix their shit together both from the inside and out. They cannot fuck their drivers in terms of track planning, internal management, car development and engineering, driver priority, and overall team chemistry. If they cannot let Charles know that he is being taken cared of and not competing against his teammate for points.
lets be real bad strategy and driver mistake = loose the race even with pole position