Why Formula 1 Cars are IMPOSSIBLE to Drive in the COLD
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2023
- Every now and then the F1 organisers throw a spanner in the works - and we typically get a very unusual Grand Prix. And that’s likely to be true for the first race on the new circuit in Las Vegas.
It’s fast, it’s a street track and the race starts at 10pm local time. But the biggest challenge for the teams is that at that time, it’s going to be cold… really cold.
So, why is the drastically colder than usual temperature such an issue? What are the teams and drivers going to do about it? And are we going to see an incredibly chaotic race?
Formula One cars really don’t work well at cold temperatures. Now, this is counterintuitive. You might notice that all of the fastest laps at your local kart track were set in the evening or at night. But in F1, the power units and in particular, the tyres just aren’t made to work when temperatures are below about 15 degrees celsius.
And you might ask, why? Well, the vast majority of the season is within a fairly tight temperature band, within the mid to high 20 degrees C range - and it has been for a while.
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Imagine if it just resulted in a race where the drivers could push flat out for the whole race rather than just managing their tyres.
We saw that in Qatar due to the stupid lap limit.
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you mean max will lead by 2minutes in stead of 20 seconds?😅
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That'll hurt max actually because red bull advantage is that it manages its tires better
@@sadeksama5057it only hurts red bull if theres a lap limit on a stint. use your brain, no limit means that red bull will go faster for longer rather than being gimped by the limit.
Can't wait for Hulk to get his first podium with a Haas 1-2 when it turns out they designed their mobile tyre cooker as a Las Vegas circuit special.
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Some might say, it's for home race advantage
Ferrari will also be gud here with the fact that they have one of the highest top speeds, and they also kill the tires too.
Using Mazepin's car to demonstrate an unpredictable spin is equal parts savage and hilarious 😂😂
Also, 'the difference between a good driver and a great driver' with pictures of Stroll & Alonso 😂😂
How it really happened:
FIA: So the temperature is going to be around 50°, which is significantly hotter than Bahrain in 2005, but teams have gotten better at thermal management since then, so we believe...
Logan Sargeant: 50° Fahrenheit, not Centigrade, you know that right?
FIA: What the fuck is a Fahrenheit?!
at point they drive on the backside of the moon and the scala is Kelvin 😮
The track length is equal to 67.8 footbal fields 🙃
That sounds about right haha.
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@@into_the_void How dare you use the decimal point?! It's 67 football fields and 56 hotdogs!
I wonder what Haas can do in order to mess up the one race where their ability to scorch their tyres would be a benefit.
You read my mind! 😆
Taking the upgrades off of their faster drivers car for one
A chance for Hulkenberg, driver of Haas, to show his quality.
I would like to see Haas withdraw from F1, and have Andretti take their place.
who asked@@nicholasmarshall3191
Not gonna lie, an F1 race with only Richard Hammond's would be a sight to behold
I can already hear the insurance companies cry out in horror at the prospect
HAMMOND!!!!
They'd all crash out and no one would finish
@@roneified4405 Race over in t1 lap 1.
Go watch a rental kart race. Same thing. Not what I want in elite motorsport.
3:50 Putting Lance when you said "good driver" and Alonso when saying "great driver" is a different sort of savage :D
Haas' weakness of cooking it's tires, might actually be it's strength this weekend 😂😂
imagine the hulk getting a podium
I’m out there working. It’s not as catastrophic to be honest. Even at 4am. 10-12C.
What I’m more worried about is that pit exit. It’s completely blind if your exiting the pits and the corner apex is literally the pit exit!
10degrees is COLD especially cos THERE ARE NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS TO GET TEMP IN THE TYRES……. Any restart or braking in turn 1 will be a massamarkt…. And completely ludicrous in these budget cap times as well. F1 truly FAILED with signing Vegas in Nevada at End of November….
And pit exit is another insanely stupid design by F1…… imagine cold tyres…Quali flying lap car and car from pitlane. Vegas is seriously such a show of incompetence!!
Assuming no cloud or rain, Track temperature will be much colder than air temperature…radiative cooling is strong in a dry atmosphere
Why the start is at 10PM? Why so late? If they start at 6 or 7 PM the temp could be higher and there would be no stupid talk about low tyre temp. 😮
@@maxster10 F1 is attempting to build a market here in the US so, waiting until the majority of the country is asleep to run the race makes perfect sense.... 😕
Not just the tyres that will be negatively affected, but the driver too!
I recall a race at Mt Fuji decades ago where the drivers hands would go numb and the visors would fog up.
It definitely won’t be THAT cold. People forget Nevada is a desert. It’s hot. It’ll probably be 60° Fahrenheit, as opposed to the 40° they often fight against in winter testing at Barcelona, im sure it’ll be okay and people keep talking about the temperature and I keep thinking it’s an overreaction
True, but blasting around at 200mph certainly magnifies things. It’s like a mild day in autumn can become icy when it gets windy.
Most people seem to expect that the low temps will result in a lot of action. However, difficult tire conditions usually results in a boring race, where drivers are afraid to push, and just take it very easy and stay single file.
Qualifying could get more interesting though.
Most people also talk about the tyres contributing to stiring things up (either way, i agree it will likely result into drivers being overly cautious), but i cant, for the life of me, imagine the drivers not having problems with the brake temps too, which seems much more of an issue to me.
@@koutroubasathanasios7322but at least braking cooling can be reduced.
Every F1 race is boring. At least Vegas offers the best opportunity for minor excitement.
@@squeakybunny2776 Would that ever be an issue in this track ? I think that layout wise it would be tricky with brake temps regardless of the temperature, but add that to the mix and its on a whole other level i imagine.
Maybe its just me being ignorant though. I bet they have gone through everything months in advance.
You mean like Turkey 2020, where no one dared to push? Oh, wait.
We will be lucky to see more than 15 cars finish the race :)
it's almost as if they went for a shiny and glitzy race and didn't really think of the practicalities beyond that..
They just need to push this up in the calendar. It shouldn't be in November. It should be months earlier and you don't need to worry about the temperature.
Meh, the best drivers in the world and the best organizing teams will cope. It's fun to see variation and skill tbh.
@@KarvidSR I'm fine with them racing in November. I just pointing out how they could solve it. wished they raced an earlier time. They're cutting off a huge chunk of their audience in the eastern time zones because of these insanely late starts
@@hankrearden5460 Yeah it sucks starting at 1am est but they could've started the race 6pm PST and it would be 2am in Europe, where most of their audience is.
Yeah it sucks and I do get it. But most audience is EU and now they get a morning race. Add the fact that they most definetly want a night race in vegas, with the lights and all.@@hankrearden5460
the weather shows it to be 10c, which really isn't that unheard of. people where thinking sub 5c temperatures but now they're temperatures similar to a just dried up and cloudy spa day
The explanation of how toe in or out can help warming up the tires is very insightful. Can you also do a video explaining the ins and outs of brake bias? We often see F1 drivers adjust them during a race or lap.
I suppose, with all the potential difficulties, this particular event will show who excells at optimising a car and who doesnt, and which driver is skillful and has a high understanding of his cars dynamics. Everyone will have the same problem, and everyone will have to drive accordingly.
Yup, I was gonna comment, this race we'll see how skilled Max is. If he does well and wins again, he really shows how skilled and consistent he is.
Wrong. It will be luck of not getting crashed out on restarts, like in Melbourne. It will be a lottery……
@@pear4576Max has shown all season in rain, drying track, on and off raining, restarts, hot track, day race, night race, Sprint weekend, normal weekend…that he is skilled in all situations. And you say Max needs to proof that he has skills to you ……..😂😂😂😂 …..
All cars are different, none of the cars will handle the same on the cold track….. it has nothing to do with skill here
@@Redlingstein its still to do with skill, you just have to compare relative to their teammate rather than the rest of the grid as a whole
Racetime forcecast right now is about 14C, so I think Pirelli can put away the snow tires.
Its abt the TRACK TEMP! Not air temp!!!!! The track temp will be too low for a track WITH NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS TO HEAT THE TYRES….and a 2KM LONG STRAIGHT where TYRES LOSE EVEN MORE HEAT. ….. It will be crash fest, driving on ice all weekend 👎🏻 F1 and Vegas FAIL BIG TIME
@@Redlingstein we get it man, you're a hater of this race. Why don't you come back in 4 days and let us know then if you are right or if the race is any good. No way it can be worse then Monaco though.
@@Redlingsteintrack temp is going to be higher than 15C because Vegas is sunny as hell and the track will spend ALL DAY in direct sunlight. Honestly, track temp might be higher than some of the rain/overcast weekend races we've had in the past.
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GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for the explainer
Maybe the cold air will give the engine a bit more horsepower seeing as they are forced induction lower inlet temp is always helpful. Or run with smaller brake ducts to generate heat through the wheels to help tyres warm up. Just a thought 😮
ofc colder temps mean more power, if the temp is colder there is pretty much always an increase on power. denser air=greater air flow=more power
Absolutely, especially for forced induction engines -- cold air is a Godsend. They'll make more power in Vegas than at any other track, and also (potentially) make the most downforce as cold air is more dense air (but that's up to the teams adjustments, of course).
Vegas is going too be a very fast track, one of the fastest overall if not blatantly THE fastest.
Definitely cold air is denser and if air is damp this also aids power. But it comes at the expense of more fuel, which means the cars would start heavier. The bigger factor though is Las Vagas is at 600m altitude. Not quite the effect of Mexico City but certainly less downforce and less oxygen for combustion.
Of course more power, less downforce and cold track temperature means less grip. The setup of the cars will be interesting, as I reckon less downforce will aid the tyres warming up, cause they squirm around more.
@@fatbikemontage2931Cold air will hold onto less water and vegas is a pretty dry place in the world
@@phitsf5475 I defer to others on the weather effects in Vagas as I’ve never been there. But I believe it is common where night temperatures are significantly lower than daytime temperature for any moisture in the air to start to condense, its not water vapour (humidity) that improves engine performance, but droplets of water. Hence why I think Subaru used to have a water injection system on some of the WRX cars, trying to replicate the effect.
Why does higher tire pressure make the tire heat up quicker? Usually the opposite is true as lower pressure means more tire deformation and therefore more resistance and thus temperature.
My understanding is that with higher pressure, the kinetic energy from the gas molecules moving around transform into thermal energy. Correct me if i'm wrong. What you are referring to is the surface area of a tire in relation to tire pressure.
Very good questions. I thougt so as well.
Came here looking for this. Could be a mistake...
@@NexuJin I've heard this argument before, but I don't think thats correct physics. If it were true, any pressurized container would constantly emit heat. During pressurization heat could be generated, but after the pressure has been reached, i highly doubt it because otherwise we would have a perpetuum mobile.
Stroll will do well this weekend. When tracks are slippery and cars lack grip, he seems to thrive.
Yes! I'm setting myself up for severe disappointment but I really think Stroll could finally get a podium this race
Uhm... Need I remind you of Monaco? 😂
No he is good on WET TRACKS
Terrific explanation, thank you so much,
Hey man I would like to let you know that I always had this curiosity about tyre temps and you nailed it. You spread a seed of knowledge today, sir, and I will bear your seed until the day I die
the cold will be awesome. they have to accommodate heat, altitude, etc at different tracks, this will be cool.
Too cool? ❄️
Literally COOL
DTS viewer found 🙄 My gosh… learn abt F1…..
This race is the one where Haas has normal tire deg.
That’s what I was thinking about. It is one thing to drive on slippery tires. But another is when it is continuously changing. Cools down in straight for the breaking zone, but warms up and gets sticky again mid corner. And the extent of this change is different in each corner.
This race shows that Fahrenheit is an awful measurement for temperature related to weather: Celsius is easy, 0 degrees=freezing. 32 degrees Fahrenheit=freezing is so awkward.
Fahrenheit is a scale of cold to hot, where everything below 0 is too damn cold and everything above 100 is too damn hot. By the time water boils a person is already dead, and remembering a 2 digit number is about the easiest thing possible. If you struggle to remember that then you must have a really difficult time with remembering what your body temperature is.
@@dustykh sounds very useful to know -17 7/9 below freezing. Or the awkward 98.6 degrees fahrenheit for body temp.
In Celsius every relevant temperature is also 2 digits.
Honestly it could be much colder too... i had a layover in vegas once and it god down to -1C overnight
Excellent video and insight. Another option for increased tire temperature would be to increase the compression stiffness of the dampers. This forces more energy through the tire carcass generating internal heat in the tire.
cutting to stroll when saying "the merely good drivers..." 😂😂
they‘ve really thought this event through haven‘t they…😂
Lewis might be able to run faster than less confident drivers but the mercs are going to struggle in a straight line. Sergeant could be interesting if the home race advantage and the straight line speed of the Williams come into play
You aLways give a great explanation with simple facts on what drivers can expect thanks
this has me very excited to watch the race!
Kind of amazed FIA didn’t decide it should be a sprint race weekend too.
Right! More chaos and danger
It's wild that I have watched nearly every race this year, but know I will be sleeping when the lights drop on a race in my own country. Even for Vegas, 10 PM is pushing it. Midnight quals is plain stupid.
Yeah. I told my spouse when the race would be, and she was like “You’re going to stay up to watch that?” Nope. I usually go to bed by 11pm central, no way I can stay up for a race at midnight local time!
To be fair, majority of F1s entire fan base is outside of America. So they did the race times around letting them watch. As an American, it frickin sucks, but there’s nothing we can do about it.
@@gigacream5830 oh, I get it. I just never thought quals at midnight would ever be a solution to that problem. This time of the year, nobody really is outside on The Strip past 10 PM because of the cold. So they want to create another Monaco out of thin air, but schedule anyone local out of the deal, lol.
@@mtnman1984 very true. I’ve never been to Vegas so I wouldn’t know. I’m an insomniac so I’ll be up to watch anyways🙃
@@gigacream5830 man, I've thought of doing it because I know I could, but (unintended pun) the stakes aren't very high. 😆
Look into 1977 F1 race at Watkins Glen. On Saturday there was snow in the air mid to upper 30s f. The cars were lined up on points. And they ran in the low 40s f. I hope helps and thank you for what you do on CZcams and other format's
At the risk of re-opening an old wound, this tire temperature issue is one of the analysis theories for the Senna crash in 1994.
Cold tires due to a slow safety car and late braking coming into the corner causing a massive lack of grip and steering resulting in the tragic straight run into the barriers.
Obviously there were many other theories, but the parallels are similar enough to bring the horrible memory back.
Great channel as always. Cheers back at you sir.
I got money on Williams to win. They usually over heat tire and why their pace falls. In these temps they should be super fast all race.
And their car has the fastest top speed. Low drag. Alex podium? Sargent points? God i wish
Is it possible that the wet can be actually faster than the slick because it performs better at lower temp?
great video, made my day
It's not actually the sport's first event in Las Vegas, that came back in 1981 and 1982 at the Caesars Palace Grand Prix, I went to both! As a spectator, it was great the track was short 2.3-mile circuit was completely confined to the car park of the Caesars Palace Hotel so the cars went by in less time which kept the excitement up. Good Luck to all the Drivers, who would have thought it would be cold!
love your insight 🔥 banging video
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Why only 8 likes for mr youtube.
I am also hoping for a spectacular race, and it will be... These conditions will just make Max look even more dominant.. dude was taught to drive slicks in rain by his dad, I'm not seeing anyone being able to challenge him.
That straight is huge! I’m definitely expecting a lot of things to happen at the end of the straight.
The coldest Indy 500 was 1992 which turned out to be a bloodbath, largely because of cold tires. Shouldn't be as much of a problem for F1 because 30 years later tire technology is presumably advanced and F1 uses tire warmers and IndyCar doesn't.
It could be worse. It could snow like it did at Spa a few years ago.
Pretty sure it’s going to be about 51-52 degrees, which is about 10 c I believe. From your F1 data that’s pretty cool but shouldn’t get too much colder.
they really lucked out then. just a week earlier and a week later it's in the low 40s. honestly unbelievable how they scheduled this without checking the goddamn weather.
@@oldfrend kinda hard to predict weather for the next year.
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I think the idea is to check average weather for the area and time, because it's going to keep happening for the next 10 years.
@@yellybeam2869END OF NOVEMBER IN NEVADA…… need I say more….. how could they not know!
@@yellybeam2869 Perhaps true in detail, but it's not hard to see temperature trends for the area in a given time frame. As a Mojave Desert resident myself (that is where Las Vegas is among other largely populated areas), it does get cold in November nights... very cold, very consistently. The race organisers and other concerned parties should have looked at and researched this sort of information rather than playing the card of stupidity.
Mazespin as the stock footage for what it looks like when the car loses grip was a choice.
Thanks for sharing.
This just all sounds like an entertaining race to me as there is a high chance of mistakes. Also, just a thought, when you run inters in the dry they suffer from overheating - maybe try inters in the cold to get temp in them
Please learn abt F1 cars……
@Redlingstein I understand how they work and understand how cold tyres will cause oversteer and understeer etc. What I am saying is that if the drivers are struggling then there will be a lot of mistakes, which will make the racing interesting to watch. What about that statement is wrong?
So interesting and not a boring race maybe? ...I'm for it 👍
I had a minor shunt feeling out some new high performance tires in colder weather than I should have. The grip cliff when my rears spun up mid corner was incredible, and the rate of yaw breathtaking. Thankfully I was exploring in a safe place so just some bent bits. First time on cold tires and hopefully my last. Wish I would have seen this video last month. Big cheers.
This is going to be chaos on track with the tight track.
Let them use intermediate tyres at Vegas.
Is there a rule that says they can’t use inters on a dry track?
There is literally nothing stopping them other than the fact they will be destroyed in about 5 corners
Is not only the design, but the rubber composition is also different, made to not run in dry conditions.
And less contact patch due to the treads.
I'm a Vegas local, I've heard so much talk about the temperatures. The low for Saturdays race is 50 degrees F, and that won't be until about 2-3 A.M. local time. I have a hard time believing F1 hasn't raced in significantly lower temps before. I think the race should be in the September-October area for the future, but I think there is way too much talk about the "low" temperatures.
50f would be exceptional for f1
i love the transicion of the "the difference between the good and the great drivers" and the video changes from Stroll to Alonso
Very interesting, thanks 👍
One of my favorite quotes from Jim Clark when asked how he drove so fast was he could not understand why the rest drove so slowly.
I wonder if they'll experience with using the intermediate tyres on the dry, it's a strategy that has been dancing in my mind every since I realized that those are the softest tyres Pirelli offers
…..learn abt F1 cars…. Please….
Not just cold but the weather report has a 40% rain chance today. No telling what the crazy Vegas weather is going to do this week.
How do you figure "freezing"? ... last I checked, freezing is 32 degrees fahrenheit or less, and during the entire F1 "weekend" of Thursday, Friday, and Saturday in Vegas, the coldest temperature is still above 50 degrees fahrenheit!
I love how you used AM drivers for good&great drivers.
Sounds like they need to schedule this race earlier in the season.
Exactly. The F1 and Vegas contract negotiators FAILED BIG TIME
No, they just need to not hold it at 10pm, which is dumb
"It's going to be really cold... 5 degrees Celsius" or like we in Finland call it, beach weather.
It is almost like this track was designed as a spectical rather than a race track.
I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about Tyre Blankets yet. Teams couldn't stop whining about it when they started restricting them... On another note, I think the undercut is going to be substantial this weekend considering how long it will take to heat up the tires.
Nobody can say anything abt the tyre blankets…. There is a regulation for 2023. Period. Nothing can be changed.
Wrong.
They'll do the same as always. That's to say that they'll follow each other with very little overtaking happening as 75% of the viewers fall asleep on the sofa.
The long straights will probably make a lot of slip streaming very usable.
I wonder if teams will use more downforce (more than typical for a "high speed" track) to induce tire temp...
Imagine they used "heated roads" to keep the tyres and the track surface warm lol
It's going to be in the 50s and most likely the mid to upper 50s they'll be fine.
I predict Albon and Williams would get a podium in this race.
That would be awesome!
Beyond the unpredictable points of loss of grip, for the temperature, is the degree of that loss of grip, as in it’s affectively total, rather then, diminished, akin to hitting a ice patch.
i am going to love this race
imagine if you could check the weather forecast and see that Vegas won't be going below 10C all week/weekend 🙄
Track temp tho
The ground is colder than the air.....
That is way too low. Track will be even lower… it’s never abt air but abt TRACK TEMP! Imagine not knowing that…..
The ground always stays hotter than the air, that's just physics. Google is your friend. I'm sure the tires are still shit in 10C anyway.
Imagine Williams winning the race and Haas scoring a podium.
knowing hulks luck it would be kmag on the podium bc hulk got damage
We don’t want only 6 cars finishing the race. Vegas is a disaster
On the up side the intercooler for the turbo is going to love life
I calculated a total length of around 4900 meters (4.9 km/ 3.0 mile) they can go flat out. That's gonna be a problem with the new asphalt, low temperatures in las Vegas and the many straits on which the tires cool off. Joy!
Classic F1, why does it need to be at night? Well it will look cooler of course... They don't care about racing just advertising
Lol, the sport is 90% advertising revenue.
The biggest challenge is integrity and stewarding!
NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THIS YET: Las Vegas is a odd one for temps. The air temp can be 45f and the city temp is 60-70f depends on time of day. It’s a massive concrete jungle with nearly ZERO air flow through out the city. I’ve been there during summer and it was saying 93f on the weather app. But in the city temp gauge was 108f
That sounds like every other city.
That's the Urban Heat Island (yes, that's the academic term) at its finest.
With the colder temps and the long straights, how are the brakes going to cope with this? I'm wondering if there will be lots of locking up/running off...
Has nobody making these videos checked the forecast? It's due to be like 12 degrees, not cold at all
He said in the video that sub-15 isn’t optimal
Right!? All this stuff about "single digit" temps is ridiculous. The race is only a few days out and the National Weather Service forecasts are pretty accurate that close, and the temp forecasts have been going up. 14.5 degrees at race start is not particularly cold.
Ever driven super fast on cold tires. Then shut it
He addresses it in the video literally lol 6:04
I don't think you understand how cold it can get in the desert in late fall on a clear night. Vegas is a desert.
The most casual drop of "yeah I've driven a few F1 cars before". Humble brag mate
Hi Scott, appreciate the video. As an amateur F1 enthusiast, it's nice to see professional input and opinions on F1 strategy and the like as it allows me to learn more about the sport.
You mentioned in the video how Sergio Perez is gentle on his tires, and from your experience and knowledge of the industry I have two questions about that:
1: How can you tell that just from watching him? and
2: How exactly do you go about being gentle on your tires?
Thanks!
experinced drivers know a lot, he is a couch therefore he have seen many driving styles, you can tell by braking points, how hard you push your throttle and how often the car is on limit, braking too hard means you use more the front wheels, pushing the throttle harder means you use more rear wheels, also how hard you steer affects ho0w you use the front wheels, in actual fact an experinced driver can copy the driving style from the car in front by just following it, hardly can replicate it alone, in my experience as a sim racer i used to brake harder than my team mate using more my tyres for qualy he even asked me how i braked too late, as its obvious i used to lose my wheels earlier, while him preserved them longer, when i raced i braked early and coast more in order to save wheels which save me 4 laps more than my team mate allowing me to make other strategies with fuel despite being slower, what makes thing interesting is that you win position by a good start, pit stops or good strategies, even you can keep your position in a race whom you are the slowest with a good strategy, in many races i was the slowest in the grid, sometimes with a good strategy, tyre managment and some luck you can make a top 5 being the slowest or keep your position for a good bunch of points
this is definitely out of the oridinary but I'm all for it
How does the colder air effect the output of the power units?
Are any benefits negated by the turbo?
It is going to be warmer than normal this weekend for the race in Vegas, so hopefully the tire issues they are predicting will not happen or not be as bad. Hopefully chaos can be avoided in that first turn at the start. Will be interesting to see how the teams adapt to this track.
10degrees at 10pm and Quali at 0.00 … that is cold….imagine the track temp… warmer than normal in Vegas is still too cold for that track lay out for F1 with NO HIGH SPEED CORNERS to warm the tyres and a more than 2km straight where the tyres LOSE TEMP…
@@Redlingsteinthe best bet is to hope the track holds on to the heat from earlier in the day
I flew from Key West to Las Vegas in November once, meaning I was only wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
Only time my luggage got lost and it was late at night. I was shocked at how cold it was.
Weather forecast for Las Vegas, Friday 12:00AM 12°C, Saturday 10PM: 12°C. Temperatures you can easily get on any northern European race track in summer....
This is what the ideal F1 calendar should be:
-Season opener in Melbourne
-Sepang
-Istanbul
-Hockenheim
-Monaco
-Silverstone
-Montreal
-Austria
-Magny Cours
-Hungaroring
-spa the last race before summer break again
-monza (with gravel around the parabolica again)
-suzuka
-CotA
-season closer in Sao Paulo
MAYBE throw in Bahrain, Barcelona, or Imola too, but that's it; absolutely no more races than that... March to October, like how it used to be. If a bunch of Arab oil sheiks want to drop some coin to have races around their fake marinas, then we can have "wild card" slots on the calendar with circuits that rotate every few years.
If they come even close to adopting a calendar like that (with no Miami, no Mexico City, no Qatar, no Abu Dhabi, etc), along with going back to smaller, more nimble cars again that aren't these understeering, lumbering behemoths that look like parade floats when they're going through slow corners, and show signs that they are phasing out DRS, then I will go back to being as head-over-heels in love of a die hard fan as I used to be when I first started watching. But until then, they're on thin ice with me personally, and I'm currently counting my days for how much longer I'm honestly going to keep dedicating time to this sport.... and I say this as somebody who hasn't missed a single race since 2005 (and watched most of the qualifying sessions as well), for whatever that's worth.
First and foremost priority before any of that other stuff though is completely scrapping these silly SpRiNt WeEkEnD sideshows... ugh.
If they make those changes, then I seriously couldn't care less about anything else going on. They could still have celebrities I don't care about taking up screen time, keep the Netflix and Disney programs, increase the idiotic hybrid electrification, have one guy winning every race by a minute, Brad Pitt, whatever... That's all water under the bridge. But imo, they are on life support (increase in number of fans doesn't matter if all these new fans only casually tune in to an occasional race here or there, while they piss off & shove out the die hard ones. Quality > quantity) until they 1) get rid of the sprints 2) put the cars on a diet, and 3) reduce the calendar, and thus, viewer saturation. While we're at it, clean up the stewarding too, and stop trying to generate chaos.
If you look at what happened with the decline of nastycar after that series peaked in the 90s, it's hard to deny that Formula 1 is taking the first steps down that exact same path with all the gimmicky changes they've been making.
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@@Clyde-2055 ?
Montreal 1978, where Gilles Villeneuve took his first win, might have been the coldest GP of history. At the time, the Montreal GP wasn't held in June as it's been now for a long time, but rather in October. Bad idea, I think the temperature was around 5C (41F) during the GP, cloudy and windy. Gilles being a former snowmobile racing champion was unfazed by it at all 🙂
I think the toe thing is spot on. Teams are going to realize they can crank that up without really sacrificing tire life.
they used to race in cold weather in canada in october. it snowed a few times.
Hahahaha I caught the subtleness and timing when he said the difference between good and great drivers and the video switched from stroll to Alonso!!!! Thats too funny
Maybe the teams will prefer an specific setup for the suspension, with a higher use of tyre, to try keep it warm. I think it will very interesting
1. New circuit
2. No support races
3. Cold
You know what, let’s make it a night race to add to this.
Actually let’s be even stricter on track limits
15C predicted for 10pm - 12pm Sunday.
I wonder if they will move the race after Austin/Mexico going forward, you may need to have warmer temps if it's too bad.