How Red Bull's F1 weakness was exposed in Monaco GP

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  • Red Bull’s second defeat in three Formula 1 races was by far its worst performance of the season. It was comprehensively outgunned, with Max Verstappen managing only sixth place in the Monaco Grand Prix as Charles Leclerc claimed an emotional home victory for Ferrari.
    So was this limp Red Bull performance, compounded by Sergio Perez’s big accident on the first lap, merely a one-off caused by the unique demands of the Monte Carlo circuit, or is there more to it than that?
    00:00 Red Bull's worst weekend
    01:04 What went wrong?
    02:14 No set-up fix
    05:13 Supreme Ferrari
    06:25 McLaren in the mix
    07:13 Mercedes upturn?
    08:16 The development war
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  • @WeAreTheRace
    @WeAreTheRace  Před 21 dnem +137

    Oops! you may notice we've got 2x Mercedes in Sector 1 in this graphic at 03:51. The second Mercedes in the list should be the missing Ferrari (sorry Ferrari fans!) - The video editor.

  • @shadowduds
    @shadowduds Před 21 dnem +1380

    7:21
    all teams bringing upgrades
    meanwhile aston martin bringing downgrades🔥🔥

    • @sebastiansilva2893
      @sebastiansilva2893 Před 21 dnem +57

      As an Aston Martin Fan........thats true im heavily depress

    • @EchoMirage72
      @EchoMirage72 Před 21 dnem +93

      Nah. They just keep bringing Stroll to races.

    • @cirnostrongestfairy
      @cirnostrongestfairy Před 21 dnem +55

      They had to downgrade the car so stroll could drive it

    • @renatatostada3318
      @renatatostada3318 Před 21 dnem +2

      Ferrari did it too a few years ago. Doesn't mean anything by itself, but something to think about

    • @Jabid21
      @Jabid21 Před 21 dnem +10

      Oddly stroll performed better recently. Stroll’s lack of consistency and prone to make mistakes really draw things back for AMR. The ‘downgrades’ and bad luck really hurt Nando.

  • @Sbinotto-on5mj
    @Sbinotto-on5mj Před 21 dnem +1627

    The fact that we all thought this season would be a write-off but we might actually have a title fight for the constructors in our hands 🔥

    • @mro9466
      @mro9466 Před 21 dnem +103

      Don't hold your breath, it will be back to normal service

    • @WonkoTSane
      @WonkoTSane Před 21 dnem +107

      @@mro9466 I think that what we have learned so far this F1 season is that a 5% overspend going in to a new set of regulations buys you 2 years of dominance before the other teams catch up.

    • @karthikpenumetch9300
      @karthikpenumetch9300 Před 21 dnem +21

      @@mro9466if ur talking rb19 dominance I have news for you

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 21 dnem +63

      Yes, considering we started this season with some predicting Max would win all the races and we now had 4 different winners in the first 8 races. I'll take that.

    • @KepleroGT
      @KepleroGT Před 21 dnem +65

      If Perez keeps qualifying P18 yeah we will

  • @sh-spectrum409
    @sh-spectrum409 Před 21 dnem +1072

    One thing I have to make mention of is how calm the Ferrari personnel are on the pit wall now, even cracking jokes! Fred has been exactly what the Scuderia has needed in terms of leadership for a very long time.

    • @KepleroGT
      @KepleroGT Před 21 dnem +157

      Fred is one of the best things that has happened to Ferrari. Even without Newey this Ferrari has the foundations for a successful runs. Binotto's 2022 was a fluke in my opinion, Vasseur is the team leader they need, because they have good people working there, and finally, it's not the "Italians ruining everything", they just needed a good leader. No blame culture but no pissing around either

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 21 dnem +33

      @@KepleroGT Exactly. And on the matter of nationalities Charles even has an Italian engineer now.

    • @Spido68_the_spectator
      @Spido68_the_spectator Před 21 dnem +1

      ​@@soundscape26Wasn't it already the case ?

    • @f1o18iwi9
      @f1o18iwi9 Před 21 dnem +12

      well fred projects that kind of energy, as people said, probably best thing for ferrari.

    • @paulsilas6037
      @paulsilas6037 Před 21 dnem +3

      Crack jokes until the other Red Bull tracks show up 😅

  • @quigglyz
    @quigglyz Před 21 dnem +638

    F1 pundits go 1 second without saying "monegasque" challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před 21 dnem +15

      What a dumb comment. Should they avoid using the country's adjective to describe the track they are racing on? Or do you want them to say something silly and incorrect like 'Monacoleese' instead? 🧐

    • @caydenph2741
      @caydenph2741 Před 21 dnem +6

      ​@@wile123456
      In which other case they mention the driver nationality so often apart from Monaco? Never, maybe Max?
      Your comment is dumb

    • @pavarottiaardvark3431
      @pavarottiaardvark3431 Před 20 dny +10

      @@caydenph2741 I just checked the FP1 highlights video from Monaco. Of the 12 drivers mentioned specifically, EIGHT of them get their country included.
      This isn't surprising, as it is a basic way to make writing seem fresh. Instead of saying "Max Verstappen" in three consecutive sentences, it goes "Max Verstappen", "the current champion", and "the Dutchman"

    • @mrBjarneLP
      @mrBjarneLP Před 20 dny +6

      @@caydenph2741 That's a pretty common thing actually. Especially in written articles.

    • @twatts4436
      @twatts4436 Před 20 dny +5

      ​@@caydenph2741All the time? Pretty much every race and session someone will be described based on where they're from...

  • @EverSoPossiblyPat
    @EverSoPossiblyPat Před 21 dnem +565

    The redbull being slow at low speed street circuits isn’t an exposed weakness. We all knew this.

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem +84

      Finally! Can't believe I had to scroll this deep into the comments before I see someone saying this.

    • @Ogole-oye
      @Ogole-oye Před 21 dnem +23

      I mean they've only been saying it out loud to whoever cares to listen but the media guys

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem +39

      @@Ogole-oye The good ol' media. The ones who, after Max's brakes gave up the ghost in Australia, were all but calling the season a done deal, how Max has been dethroned and basically shouldn't even bother showing up anymore because here comes Ferrari and McLaren.
      The way common-taters tend to get all amped up over a single result, and then forecast the sky to fall makes them sound ignorant of the sport.

    • @kgrich836
      @kgrich836 Před 21 dnem

      This is the big fat wind bag Edd creating noise. Edd absolutely sucks

    • @wolfgangvan-uber6515
      @wolfgangvan-uber6515 Před 21 dnem +16

      We knew? Really? Except Singapore last year, Red Bull won easily on ALL street courses, even Monaco.

  • @DmT922ha
    @DmT922ha Před 21 dnem +328

    They may very well lose the Constructor's, Checo just doesn't cut it anymore..

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 Před 21 dnem +69

      Mark webber got shunted for less by Helmut back in the day.

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 Před 21 dnem +12

      Bro wtf they are only 20 points behind in constructors and the books are still having Ferrari at 5+ odds... Ill sprinkle a bit of beer money on that lmfao

    • @ricko2301
      @ricko2301 Před 21 dnem +7

      Right and when he won a race recently people were saying how great he is lol.

    • @dahorn100011
      @dahorn100011 Před 21 dnem +36

      I was going to say Magnussen caused that incident...but Perez's poor qualifying put him in that position anyway.

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 Před 21 dnem +20

      @@dahorn100011 "Why were you there in the first place?" Is EXACTLY what Helmut would be asking. They're always playing bumper cars in the back of the grid. He had no business being there. Especially alongside a HAAS for chrissake.

  • @jordyyyboy98
    @jordyyyboy98 Před 21 dnem +227

    I remember Mercedes being slow at Monaco when they was dominating

    • @jb-y1487
      @jb-y1487 Před 21 dnem +1

      You don’t know what you’re talking about
      They were fine last year
      Championship back one 👍🏾

    • @GameOver-nm2us
      @GameOver-nm2us Před 21 dnem +99

      ​@jb-y1487 did I just witness someone having a stroke through a youtube comment section?

    • @Thatguy1705
      @Thatguy1705 Před 21 dnem +18

      @@jb-y1487 Found one of the Merc fan bots.

    • @DavidJohnson-dc8lu
      @DavidJohnson-dc8lu Před 21 dnem +13

      Basic it was a power dominated car, struggled on twisty circuits and high altitude.

    • @heransd
      @heransd Před 20 dny +1

      Yah RB used to be strong in Monaco when Merc were dominating

  • @richieduck67
    @richieduck67 Před 21 dnem +292

    Wait till Canada can't base it off Monaco

    • @jessetaylor4357
      @jessetaylor4357 Před 21 dnem +47

      Canada is very bumper so if this a weakness for red bull they may not do that well there

    • @vichope6408
      @vichope6408 Před 21 dnem +11

      I heard they will use off road tires in canada

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem +33

      @@jessetaylor4357 It may be bumpy, but the speeds are much higher on average. RB struggles on slow speed tracks. Medium and high speed corners are where it shines, thanks to Newey & Co.

    • @jessetaylor4357
      @jessetaylor4357 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@Quazi-moto true true

    • @giuseppemaggio5894
      @giuseppemaggio5894 Před 21 dnem +25

      We are not basing it off Monaco. Australia, Miami and Imola were a thing. Max might have won in Imola but it was TIGHT and do not forget about the slip he got from Hulkenberg in Q3

  • @simrock_
    @simrock_ Před 21 dnem +321

    Monaco may be a historic, prestigious and demanding circuit, but it's becoming ever more clear that it's no longer a good race track for modern F1 cars. Yes Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes did most likely have the better car for the circuit, Verstappen being unable to even try an overtake while he is lapping 2 seconds faster than Russel is something I'd call a major issue.

    • @zarategabe
      @zarategabe Před 21 dnem +34

      but it's pretty exciting for qualifying and every 10th Monaco GP is amazing

    • @jessetaylor4357
      @jessetaylor4357 Před 21 dnem +20

      That’s how it goes mate this circuit will always have a place on the calendar

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 21 dnem +13

      Yes, that's another problem with how close the cars are performing... you need to be at least 3 seconds faster than the car ahead to try an overtake with a decent chance of success. Not often will you find such difference in performance between 2 cars.

    • @smOOdiebOOdie
      @smOOdiebOOdie Před 21 dnem +12

      It’s worth it because the qualy is the best of the season!!

    • @zbatchDOC
      @zbatchDOC Před 21 dnem +8

      It’s so bad.

  • @jasonzervos
    @jasonzervos Před 21 dnem +85

    Leclerc wining on Monaco is hands down one of the most memorable moments of this season.
    And Lando getting his first win right up there as well

  • @impoundedkota
    @impoundedkota Před 21 dnem +90

    how do you "dominate" a race when there were only two over takes the entire 78 laps?

    • @sammammone9628
      @sammammone9628 Před 21 dnem +22

      As for the driver, it’s one of the hardest circuits to stay focused. One wrong move to the barrier and you’re done. It’s got nothing to do with speed, it’s tyre management and keeping the pack behind you, it’s mentally exhausting. That’s how you “Dominate “ Monaco

    • @gamechip06
      @gamechip06 Před 21 dnem +17

      ​@@sammammone9628 I'd say 10 people "dominated" this weekend with that definition.

    • @prathamdey6874
      @prathamdey6874 Před 21 dnem +2

      ​@@gamechip06😂😂 Idk about others but I was bored to hell ngl... The only intresting parts were that accident and suddenly out of nowhere bottas coming out and putting the fastest lap even tho it was of no use later on... Hoping for the Canadian GP to be good 😊🎉

    • @MsZeeZed
      @MsZeeZed Před 21 dnem

      That’s the very definition of dominating a race. A race with lots of overtakes is open.

    • @sammammone9628
      @sammammone9628 Před 21 dnem

      @@gamechip06 yes, but only one had the control to keep the rest of the drivers behind and control the race pace....that was Charles leclarc

  • @kenny8295
    @kenny8295 Před 21 dnem +84

    Monaco is just an old track that’s outdated for modern F1 cars. No opportunities to pass. The race is decided during qualifying

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 Před 21 dnem +3

      I appreciate tracks where you pay for mistakes, given that safety is not compromised. If that's what you mean with outdated I have to disagree.
      In many of the modern tracks race is anyways almost overtakingless.
      The cars are so sophisticated to the point they are too susceptible to any imperfection of the track or even being too close to the front car.

    • @lightfeather9953
      @lightfeather9953 Před 20 dny +5

      I don't see what your last point is. Of course it's decided in qualifying, and Red Bull did poorly. But yeah, it's not representative of performance for the rest of the year.

    • @product_of_august
      @product_of_august Před 20 dny

      But it is still needed because not all tracks need to be based on important drag races

    • @RagedContinuum
      @RagedContinuum Před 20 dny +2

      monaco is awful and should be removed

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 Před 20 dny +5

      @@RagedContinuum I disagree

  • @farpumba
    @farpumba Před 21 dnem +116

    This was not even a race.

    • @cusz87
      @cusz87 Před 21 dnem +12

      77 laps on a set of tires and Russell driving 4 seconds off pace but holding off Verstappen is not a race, it's a formality.

    • @jacksonrodrigues7533
      @jacksonrodrigues7533 Před 21 dnem +14

      Worst race ever. Not a single overtake except stroll

    • @woodenhoe
      @woodenhoe Před 21 dnem

      It's a parade

    • @BobbyDazzler888
      @BobbyDazzler888 Před 21 dnem +8

      The race is a demonstration race. The race is determined in qualifying.

    • @CTback
      @CTback Před 20 dny +1

      That must be why Formula 1 keeps trying to take Monaco off the schedule.

  • @stuartorr8192
    @stuartorr8192 Před 21 dnem +240

    No way to overtake so it is all about qualifying. To be circulating 10s slower than qualifying and still not able to overtake the guy in front shows how shit the Monaco circuit is

    • @leonardomatheus1888
      @leonardomatheus1888 Před 21 dnem +50

      Is more about modern f1 cars being road boats.

    • @ThotSlayer69
      @ThotSlayer69 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@leonardomatheus1888nope, the track is just sh*t

    • @antiwokehuman
      @antiwokehuman Před 21 dnem +33

      @@leonardomatheus1888not really. Monaco was bad even in the early 2000s when the cars were much smaller

    • @S2GUnit
      @S2GUnit Před 21 dnem

      It's because the tyres cant be pushed ​@@leonardomatheus1888

    • @leonardomatheus1888
      @leonardomatheus1888 Před 21 dnem +4

      ​@@antiwokehumanYes, but it wasn't as bad like nowdays.

  • @steve4880
    @steve4880 Před 21 dnem +90

    It's Monaco. You simply can't pass there. If Verstappen was able to get on pole, he would've won, same for Perez. start 2nd, finish 2nd. etc... Verstappen caught Russell in 5 or 6 laps after pitting. So he gained nearly 20 seconds but couldn't pass another car on 50 lap old tires.

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před 21 dnem +12

      ' If Verstappen was able to get on pole' well, he was far from it

    • @dontbesocool1991
      @dontbesocool1991 Před 21 dnem +3

      Of course he will definitely gain something out of fresher tyres versus the car running on an # lap old tyres. 😊

    • @Yuvrajsingh-fw2wo
      @Yuvrajsingh-fw2wo Před 21 dnem +7

      ​@@dontbesocool1991He's not talking about catching, he's talking about not being able to overtake a car that's on old tyres

    • @BobbyDazzler888
      @BobbyDazzler888 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@1greenMitsihe hit the wall and aborted on the hot lap on 3rd qualifying. A driver error.

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem

      ​@@BobbyDazzler888🏎

  • @AmsterdamHeavy
    @AmsterdamHeavy Před 21 dnem +77

    It was a Monaco parade without even a need to pit. Just stop.

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem +6

      I agree. Unless drivers pull a Stroll, you can look at the grid order after quali and see who will win.

    • @purotito88
      @purotito88 Před 21 dnem

      🙏

    • @cusz87
      @cusz87 Před 21 dnem +2

      This was merely a formality. This year it didn't even have a pit stop. You don't think this race could get any less competitive, but leave it to F1 to raise the bar and poor tracks.

  • @omenvii242
    @omenvii242 Před 21 dnem +5

    I don't understand all the hype about redbull struggling.

    • @johnlau6749
      @johnlau6749 Před 21 dnem

      this just shows how crucial adrian newey is in red bull

    • @optimummr1609
      @optimummr1609 Před 20 dny +1

      Because people are sick of red bull domination. It’s heavenly when they struggle as a Mercedes’ fan

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny +3

      Just some people Max live rent free inside theirs head and stiil AD21 give them Nightmare and Also Max is not British pretty sure if he was British you know what will happened LOL 😂

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@johnlau6749Lol

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@johnlau67492014 to 2020 🤔

  • @Kal_El1994
    @Kal_El1994 Před 20 dny +2

    Red Bull not on a podium: ‘Everyone liked that’

  • @paulsilas6037
    @paulsilas6037 Před 21 dnem +30

    Lets be real, a clean lap from Max would be up there with Ferrari and Mclaren. Then add the fact that Monaco is a track with almost no possible overtakes. There is no dramatic exposed there.

    • @jeffsteyn7174
      @jeffsteyn7174 Před 21 dnem +4

      Let's be real redbull are going backwards. Hence he is now feeling the pressure and driving into walls again. Crashstappen of old... amazing what having the fastest car by mile helps with winning

    • @aimanazrie8944
      @aimanazrie8944 Před 21 dnem +2

      and let's be real, he lost the car right at the first corner so i don't know what you're on about. in the end, rbr is still not as good as ferrari and mclaren in monaco this year

    • @joep5080
      @joep5080 Před 21 dnem +1

      lets be real, to have a clean lap you have to drive a clean lap, which he did not manage in q3 hence his starting position.
      Also keeping it real, DC or mika hakkinen could have done all sorts on a clean lap in the RB, but thats just another what if. Lets be real, reality happened

    • @paulsilas6037
      @paulsilas6037 Před 21 dnem +4

      @@joep5080 I'm just disputing the falsehood that they have been exposed, nope, if you look at 2022 Monaco, Max was driving at the limit for pole against a faster Aston Martin. So we are not seeinv anything new. Also before the crash his times were competitive hence everybody waited to see what he will do and he unfortunately crashed.
      The title of the video makes it seem as if they were outpaced 😂

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 Před 20 dny +1

      The reason he crashed was because he had to drive to the limit and take risks more than usual to make a good lap. Unlike before where he could do as he pleased.

  • @frednurk4342
    @frednurk4342 Před 21 dnem +6

    Wasn’t a race, just a high speed parade

  • @infidel1993
    @infidel1993 Před 20 dny +5

    Well the fact that Adrian Newey seemed to show keen interest in the McLarens at Monaco suggests they’re definitely doing something right.

  • @ericfeldkamp3788
    @ericfeldkamp3788 Před 21 dnem +12

    Max tapped the wall at a bad time resulting in a lost chance at pole. The track doesn't allow racing. How is this a red bull weakness?

    • @craigcharlesworth1538
      @craigcharlesworth1538 Před 21 dnem +6

      I don't think he was on for pole. He might have gotten as high as second or third but barring a mega start, he'd still have lost the race because once it settled after the first lap incidents nobody could pass anybody.

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem +1

      Pole 😂

    • @badz1497
      @badz1497 Před 21 dnem

      Max was never challenging for pole last race. he lost too much time in the last sector where Charles gained lots there. at best, he was looking 3rd or 4th

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 Před 20 dny

      the reason he tapped the wall in the first place is that he had to risk a lot to get a decent lap out. I doubt he had a chance to get pole and he knew it too.

  • @bryan34wable
    @bryan34wable Před 20 dny +6

    IMO Monaco showed two things I think should be changed. Tire changes under red flag shouldn’t count as changing compounds.
    2nd going back to the last timing marker should only be as a last result. They have loads of other data to show car positions at time of red flag. If they cannot determine from all other accurate information , then use last timing marker.

  • @Quazi-moto
    @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem +45

    But we've known for a long while now that slow speed tracks are Red Bull's bane.
    Don't line your carts up in front of your horses, folks. Max is still gonna run away with the championship.

    • @Hydraav2
      @Hydraav2 Před 21 dnem

      I mean I don’t think anyone will beat him in the drivers. But this is a massive stretch, they won Monaco by a comfortable margin in 21 and 22. This isn’t some normal occurrence, they are struggling more with this car than the previous 2 years.

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 20 dny +1

      @@Hydraav2 I get where you're coming from, but are they struggling? Or is it more that the other teams -- after 2 full seasons -- are finally beginning to catch up?
      Bear in mind that the only race it can be said that he flat out lost was Miami, and that took a MAJOR bit of luck with the safety car's timing. And even then Lando had to drive his ass off to keep Max behind.
      If Monaco allowed overtaking like a normal track, no way in Hades he stays in P6.
      Unless and until I see a SUSTAINED drop in performance from him or the car, we can only go by his track record of being THE most consistent driver.
      RB would've won the constructor's last year even without Checo's points, and Max had more than double the points of P2 in the driver's championship. The rest of the field still very much has an uphill battle in trying to knock Max from the top step.
      EDIT: To be fair, the only struggles I recall seeing were the exploding brakes, and the too-stiff suspension at Monaco. Everything else can be chalked up to gains made by other teams rather than an RB decline.

    • @bendixonmusic7149
      @bendixonmusic7149 Před 20 dny

      The fact that they would have won last year with just Max’s points doesn’t matter in the slightest now, Ferrari are now only 24 pts behind and closing in pace wise along with McLaren

    • @Quazi-moto
      @Quazi-moto Před 20 dny

      @@bendixonmusic7149 You're right about what happened last year not affecting things right now.
      I brought that up just to illustrate Max's consistency, and to point out just how big that proverbial hill was that the other drivers faced coming into this season.

    • @bendixonmusic7149
      @bendixonmusic7149 Před 20 dny +2

      @@Quazi-moto if anything how dominant Red Bull were last season just shows how much McLaren and Ferrari have gained on them in relative terms, last season they had a pace advantage strong enough that they were able to win even at relatively bad tracks for them besides Singapore. They’re now in a position where for 3 straight races they haven’t had a clear pace advantage over McLaren and I’m certain they’re worried about that

  • @mgnoodle2589
    @mgnoodle2589 Před 21 dnem +64

    So how come K Mag wasn’t punished but Ocon was?

    • @tonTeufel
      @tonTeufel Před 21 dnem +31

      Then they'd have to ban him which they were never going to do. The whole penalty points system is a farce

    • @patricknolan9606
      @patricknolan9606 Před 21 dnem +35

      Perez knew he was there and still closed the gap. Kmag was wrong to try put the car alongside but they were both at fault so no penalty

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před 21 dnem +9

      @@patricknolan9606 the problem is kevin was nowhere near alongside. Kevin was trying to get ahead of his team mate, thats the problem. Much like ocon, they are fixated on beating their team mates and end up making low IQ poor percentage poor choices

    • @fist003
      @fist003 Před 21 dnem +1

      racing incident, similar to when Ricciardo took out Albon

    • @jacksonrodrigues7533
      @jacksonrodrigues7533 Před 21 dnem

      Coz they didn’t want to give him a race ban

  • @SuperAsian78
    @SuperAsian78 Před 21 dnem +5

    Monaco is more of a who can line up in first place before the race.

    • @badz1497
      @badz1497 Před 21 dnem

      has been for many years now

  • @tobiasadjetey1818
    @tobiasadjetey1818 Před 21 dnem +8

    Sergio Perez is the limiting factor that will most likely cost red bull the constructors to Ferrari (and possibly McLaren) with both those teams consisting of stronger drivers compared to verstappen having to fight at the front on his own

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem

      Even If Perez drive consistent results the Mclaren or Ferrari is become so strong competitive i meant Max could be from now at the end of the season have hard time beating them so if they want to win it it should be driver like Russell or Alonso in the second Redbull and possible Red bull could be second or third best car majority of the races from now on the end

    • @guitar_4_jesus380
      @guitar_4_jesus380 Před 19 dny +2

      @@user-wy5xe6ht2m Bro Perez had 3 bad races. But the Lord forbid Hamilton have 3 bad races then its okay. Red Bull will remain dominant as long as Max Verstappen is in one. Both Max and Perez struggled with the car in the last few races. Thats all. It's nothing to do with their skill

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@guitar_4_jesus380jajaja sure whatever and bye 👋❄️

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@guitar_4_jesus380Lol

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@guitar_4_jesus380LOL

  • @SeiMoonZz
    @SeiMoonZz Před 21 dnem +8

    One thing is for sure the season has been less predictable than last year at this Point which is Always a positive like 4 different Winners after 8 races at the start of bahrain that would seem impossible to imagine

  • @edwinre4245
    @edwinre4245 Před 19 dny +2

    Video time: 6:18,
    The commentary in the video mentioned that Ferrari beat Red Bull in a fair fight in Monaco. How did they manage to do that, especially on a track where overtaking is so difficult?

  • @billygoat520
    @billygoat520 Před 21 dnem +4

    The Red Bull runs so well on 95% of the tracks I wouldn't change it to accommodate those few as the majority would suffer. I don't think they will work that hard on the problem. When they win so many races by 20 seconds and more I think they already have a very superior program as it is.

    • @Alexander-jl8mo
      @Alexander-jl8mo Před 20 dny +1

      Honestly I agree, with a few tracks being the problem there is no need to change the setup for the minor tracks. Also with Monaco the team did well in terms of strategy but without overtaking it was impossible.

  • @14rs2
    @14rs2 Před 21 dnem +13

    The start of Perez being nowhere again will mean there will be a fight for the constructors championship!!

  • @quadrantalerror1121
    @quadrantalerror1121 Před 21 dnem +48

    The fight at the front is properly heating up, with Mclaren, Ferrari, Max (not checo), and Merc getting alot closer. We could have a 2021 style second half of the season but with 4 different constructors and 7 different drivers.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Před 21 dnem +38

      Merc isn't even in the same zip code.

    • @steve4880
      @steve4880 Před 21 dnem +12

      @@TheSlowoldman Well duh, they went for that zero-pod concept and abandoned it last year. They are a full 1.5 years behind in development, but could be back next year.

    • @quadrantalerror1121
      @quadrantalerror1121 Před 21 dnem +6

      @@TheSlowoldmanbeat redbull on 77 lap old mediums. Finished a couple seconds behind Lando. Checo ain’t even in the same zipcode you mean

    • @craigcharlesworth1538
      @craigcharlesworth1538 Před 21 dnem +22

      @@TheSlowoldman Merc is in a weird position where they're well clear of the midfield but not close to Red Bull, Ferrari or McLaren. They're in no-mans land.

    • @flopre9213
      @flopre9213 Před 21 dnem +16

      @@quadrantalerror1121ur kidding urself if u think merc is in the fight cause of monaco

  • @Trollmaina
    @Trollmaina Před 20 dny +2

    Monaco is such a extreme 1 off race, rb would never adjust their car for a 1 of a kind track like that

  • @chrisc475
    @chrisc475 Před 21 dnem

    I love how you have updated the colour of the McLarens in the graphic at 0:55

  • @rapisidro4821
    @rapisidro4821 Před 21 dnem +4

    That Red Bull either works or it doesn't. If they get the setup right, they're a rocket. In Monaco they didn't get that and the fact that the track is basically a parade route, it's impossible to overtake.

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem

      So they don't get the setyp right for three races in row i meant is it they dont know how to do car setup LOL

  • @Zadkiel862
    @Zadkiel862 Před 21 dnem +1

    So essentially having such a dominant car based on being able to run low with the floor they have, while other teams have had to work their car development harder while higher, means that some of the other cars are better on certain tracks, especially bumpy tracks with low to medium speed corners.

  • @broggie123
    @broggie123 Před 21 dnem +8

    Not every car is going to be the best on every track but what RB has is it only struggles on one track. I’m sure a few points dropped here aren’t going to matter come the end of the season

    • @tubularcandy812
      @tubularcandy812 Před 21 dnem +1

      Remember Singapore last year.

    • @jbm2074
      @jbm2074 Před 21 dnem

      Imola Norris was +0.725 behind vestapen and last year Redbull won Monaco with +27s ahead of second place something is wrong.Whether it doesn't happen this season, next season they will be struggles though i understand your point redbull it's still the best but let's wait and see how other cars will perform next races and conclude if they are really closing the gap.

    • @bendixonmusic7149
      @bendixonmusic7149 Před 20 dny

      @@jbm2074it’s quite clear that McLaren have closed the gap considerably, Red Bull haven’t shown a clear pace advantage over competitors for 3 consecutive races

  • @rientsdijkstra4266
    @rientsdijkstra4266 Před 21 dnem +1

    So basically the RB suffers in the bumpy street circuits for being the best on the modern flat asphalt circuits. You could say that that is simply a trade-off that the designers have chosen.

  • @BadWallaby
    @BadWallaby Před 20 dny +1

    I love how they wont trust lawson with a contract for a season but theyll trust his input in the sim for the development of the car? make it make sense

  • @nomoreheroes93
    @nomoreheroes93 Před 21 dnem +1

    The ideal qualifying lap metric makes no sense, as it might not be possible to ever drive those 3 sectors back to back depending on how each is finished/started

  • @zrpggamer
    @zrpggamer Před 21 dnem +32

    I would not call it a weakness, a car can't be perfect at every track, especially under these rules.

    • @Giovanni-be1ki
      @Giovanni-be1ki Před 21 dnem +12

      Well, Rb19 was perfect in every track (except Singapore). Rb20 has been vulnerable for the past 3 races

    • @zrpggamer
      @zrpggamer Před 21 dnem +2

      @@Giovanni-be1ki thats because the competition was miles away. It wasn't perfect. Really close races in Vegas Australia as well

    • @dahorn100011
      @dahorn100011 Před 21 dnem +1

      True, however the red bull was so far ahead in 2022 and 2023 that it just didn't matter.
      Rivals being closer, and having huge strengths were red bull have weaknesses i.e. Mclaren at Miami where they shone proves this.

    • @karthikpenumetch9300
      @karthikpenumetch9300 Před 21 dnem +1

      that still means it’s a weakness

    • @craigcharlesworth1538
      @craigcharlesworth1538 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@Giovanni-be1ki Thing is, if you come straight out the gate in a new rules cycle with a car that's at 95% of the theoretical limit, and everyone else is around 85-90%, then they are going to eventually catch you because you don't have much more performance you can feasibly eke out and they have loads. They will get you eventually. That's why I'm so annoyed that the FIA are having another massive rule change for 2026, because by then we'd probably see 3 or 4 teams regularly winning and possibly an actual fight for the title rather than another Verstappen coronation.

  • @bbbenj
    @bbbenj Před 21 dnem

    Thanks for this in depth technical review.

  • @davidhoward4541
    @davidhoward4541 Před 21 dnem +2

    I reckon I could've held on to the lead in my Ford Focus yesterday...

  • @garf117
    @garf117 Před 21 dnem +1

    idk who does your graphics but I appreciate the did the 8bit style McLaren in the one off livery. Kudos.

  • @AllenKey19
    @AllenKey19 Před 21 dnem +1

    Remember 2 years ago when Adrian Newey was literally confused why Red Bull was SO far ahead of everyone else; they said they didn't even do an especially spectacular job with the car, everyone else just failed to get to grips with the new regulations. Well, diminishing returns, rival upgrades and the type of track that really exposes the RB20's weaknesses, totally expected result

  • @RoadRash89
    @RoadRash89 Před 21 dnem +1

    Going to be interesting seeing the "No Newey" RB21

  • @sebulbathx
    @sebulbathx Před 18 dny

    It's really nice to have development war or at least somewhat of. This is really needed for F1 and I would say even more so than close racing and overtakes.

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle Před 21 dnem +6

    ... or maybe Max's poor Qualifying and final mistake just shunted them further down the procession which was unrecoverable owing to the nature of the Monaco track ... ?

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 Před 21 dnem +7

    2 defeats out of 3. Well I never

  • @lancealvarez1009
    @lancealvarez1009 Před 21 dnem +2

    Time to remove monaco from the calendar. f1 has outgrown this track and this has been the case fir ages. The only times monaco has been exciting is purely rain

  • @equinox7839
    @equinox7839 Před 20 dny +1

    It's a big assumption to say that RB was outpaced in the race. He messed up his qualifying lap and, because it's Monaco, couldn't overtake anyone.

  • @zlm001
    @zlm001 Před 21 dnem +4

    I think that Monaco should be a sprint race weekend, but it’s not because I think two races would be exciting. It’s the thought of getting two qualifying sessions, on two different days, that gets me excited at the idea of a Monaco sprint weekend, especially as they’d get to change things with the setup for the second qualifying session. That way both Friday and Saturday would be way more interesting with the two qualifying sessions, the sprint would be as exciting as a practice session, and the race would remain the same.

    • @craigcharlesworth1538
      @craigcharlesworth1538 Před 21 dnem +3

      What if they completely reformatted Monaco? Made it a time trial instead of a traditional race? I know that sounds crazy but if we want to keep Monaco on the calender because of its history yet somehow make the Grand Prix more exciting then we need to start thinking outside the box. 20 cars, five laps each, fastest cumultive time over the five laps wins.

    • @halofreak1990
      @halofreak1990 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@craigcharlesworth1538 I think we should wait for the smaller cars in 2026 before making a definitive decision to actually change the track

  • @ce9916
    @ce9916 Před 18 dny

    Whoever is in charge of the visuals deserves a raise

  • @Ogole-oye
    @Ogole-oye Před 21 dnem +7

    I mean it's well documented, that RedBull struggles on these kind of tracks even with last year's car....the surface and slow speed corners arent their strength and they've repeatedly said this over time.

    • @penusliski
      @penusliski Před 21 dnem

      Yeah, that's why Max won last year's Monaco by almost 28 seconds ahead of Alonso

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 Před 20 dny

      they did lose Miami too on pure pace though...

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@edyslavico3761pure pace 😂

  • @rookie2321
    @rookie2321 Před 20 dny +1

    Red bulls weakness in Monaco.
    1.Narrow track (max feeling claustrophobic)
    2.Slow circuit
    3. Not long enough straights.

  • @martsmarts
    @martsmarts Před 21 dnem

    Adrian Newey was actually studying the aero of Mclaren the other day. Really took a long stare. Clearly seems theres something that needs to be addressed on RBs car

  • @TheRealAdamSampson
    @TheRealAdamSampson Před 21 dnem +1

    Was this weekend an example of that Newey magic I keep hearing about?

  • @ericmackensen8461
    @ericmackensen8461 Před 20 dny +1

    Monaco is hardly a good litmus test for anything other than qualifying pace at an abnormal track!

  • @2744ducksdman
    @2744ducksdman Před 21 dnem +1

    Not a Versteppan/RB fan but this would be much different if he didn't hit the wall in Q3. He could have started 1st/2nd/3rd and the narrative would have been much different. Its so hard to pass on this track that unless you are much faster, you can't actually pass. When Riccardo won, he was down double digits HP and no one could pass him.

  • @timpeachey9394
    @timpeachey9394 Před 21 dnem +11

    Just a reminder that in 2022, Verstappen didnt even lead the championship until round 6.

  • @smoketinytom
    @smoketinytom Před 20 dny +1

    Ah yes, the tight street circuit... We'll wait for the dedicated Racing Tracks before we all start saying it's a disaster.

  • @user-kt3nk9bj4r
    @user-kt3nk9bj4r Před 21 dnem +12

    Good job Charles

  • @311superfly
    @311superfly Před 21 dnem +3

    Strange how no points update during and at end of race! Production crew took a break and cheaply did nothing for class.

    • @neildaniel8232
      @neildaniel8232 Před 21 dnem +6

      Monaco is 'unique' in that they use a local crew to manage the TV coverage, it's always been poorer than usual because of this.

    • @tombardsley3081
      @tombardsley3081 Před 21 dnem

      @@neildaniel8232actually that changed a few years ago to being managed by F1 . Hence why the camera angles are different

  • @jsong8584
    @jsong8584 Před 20 dny +1

    A lot of fans watched Mercedes dominating for years, so many forgot how it's so tough to keep winning. Redbull's struggle is so natural. Hope Championship gets spice up, with Big three fighting each other.

  • @DarudeF1
    @DarudeF1 Před 21 dnem +1

    No car is perfect and I reckon fixing the RB weakness would hamper it in other areas.

  • @hanohanocampos00
    @hanohanocampos00 Před 6 dny

    Who would've thought the kryptonite for the mighty RB's would be a kerb🤣🤣🤣

  • @sodldierofinFAMY
    @sodldierofinFAMY Před 20 dny +1

    If you would have told me McLaren and Ferrari would have a better car by Monaco at the start of the year I would have called you crazy. Now I’m wondering if Red Bulls gunna be able to keep up

  • @camcambambam5128
    @camcambambam5128 Před 21 dnem +2

    Canada, Spain, Austria, Silverstone are all Red Bull tracks. Maybe Austria could throw a curve ball at Red Bull

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      All this tracks is also Ferrari is so strong at it even Mclaren

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 Před 21 dnem +2

    If Perez doesn't get back to form immediately, we will likely see Ferrari win the constructors. Last year, Max's points alone would have won them the constructors, but this year is a whole new ball game. Driver's championship should still be Max, unless something miraculously happens. But ever since Mclaren and Ferrari brought their upgrades, they have been right there with Redbull every step of the way, and they have 2 great drivers, while Redbull only have 1.

  • @ashavin3018
    @ashavin3018 Před 21 dnem +2

    Ed, I think your blowing this way out of proportion. I know you guys want a title fight BUT I am afraid you wont get that this season or next, sorry.
    If Max had gotten a clean final lap then he would have been on the front row or at least the second row. Pole is the most influential factor in Monaco so whoever gets it would have the best chance of winning bar some strategy or car issue.
    Also, why would you build a car to win on street circuits only?? there are a hand full of this type of circuit, all the rest are conventional. Once we get to the conventional circuits then the RB will be back to its natural self.

  • @tylerdurden4006
    @tylerdurden4006 Před 21 dnem +1

    Only the 2nd non-win in over 2 years- "such a horrible driver and team, worst ever in the sport, they do not belong in f1"

  • @JavierCR25
    @JavierCR25 Před 17 dny

    I just love seeing an actual fight again.

  • @johnbarker5009
    @johnbarker5009 Před 19 dny +1

    Nice to see the field becoming more competitive up front. It's still a little early to say Mercedes is back in the race. They didn't show any signs of being able to catch the front runners. Had Verstappen been able to get past George Russell's rolling roadblock he would have finished much closer to the leaders.

  • @notfrom63rd6
    @notfrom63rd6 Před 21 dnem +1

    Now when redbull racing really needs its second driver to start scoring aswell , the pressure is gonna rise ever more...

  • @Windrunner11
    @Windrunner11 Před 20 dny +1

    The Race video title in 2 weeks: "Why Red Bull are back to domination"

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 20 dny

    Some fire background music here

  • @procatprocat9647
    @procatprocat9647 Před 21 dnem +1

    Using a kid for crucial sim work is a mistake.
    There are plenty of fast, experienced, consistent ex f1 drivers who have developed setup knowledge and maybe even have some basic understanding of Engineering.

  • @MsZeeZed
    @MsZeeZed Před 21 dnem

    You sure it was Lawson in the Red Bull sim? He was the RBR group reserve driver for the race and was definitely at the circuit (I saw him on camera watching the F2 race).

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 20 dny

    Looking forward to Singapore

  • @MrNangu
    @MrNangu Před 20 dny

    One thing I've noticed, and didn't see mentioned anywhere, is that when Max didn't have a comfortable pace advantage and needs to force the limit of the car, he made errors. Miami and Q3 Monaco are the prime examples. That's another positive thing Ferrari and McLaren upgrades brought to the championship by being closer and challenging RB pace on some tracks. I hope this trend to continue for the sake of a good championship fight for the fans, and may be a three or four champ contenders next year.

  • @CalgarGTX
    @CalgarGTX Před 17 dny

    If your only weakness is riding kerbs, but you are superior on every circuit where you have to actually drive on the track, I'd call that a win overall

  • @anotheruser9876
    @anotheruser9876 Před 21 dnem +3

    Note: Leclerc sounds more like 'Leh Clair' than 'Luck Lurk'

    • @holliefitzzz
      @holliefitzzz Před 21 dnem

      in normal french pronunciation but i do remember charles himself pronounce is lucklurk i have no idea why. cant give you a link but i always remember it cuz it struck me as odd

    • @holliefitzzz
      @holliefitzzz Před 21 dnem

      i think the same happened with "Joe" because they asked the Chinese driver what he wanted to be called and that's how he said it maybe with a slightly harder J than western but it wasn't a Zsh sound

  • @MsZeeZed
    @MsZeeZed Před 21 dnem

    6:10 - RBR says Max had performance loosing floor damage post-collision, Max says he did not and the timesheet says his lap-time was as fast either side of hitting the bollard. Max himself complained he couldn’t drive the RBR20 as fast as he needed to at Miami from the start of the race, which is why he slid wide and hit the bollard in the chicane. This is the same problem, a tight corner riding kerbs - low grip, low speed.

  • @Kayak51
    @Kayak51 Před 21 dnem +1

    All teams are paying Magnusen, so they can have a look at the RedBull underfoor.

  • @imik3y
    @imik3y Před 21 dnem +13

    3:51 Graphic wrong, Sector 1 has no Ferrari

    • @MsZeeZed
      @MsZeeZed Před 21 dnem

      Somehow I doubt Mercedes were fastest in Sector 1

    • @WeAreTheRace
      @WeAreTheRace  Před 21 dnem

      The second Mercedes in the list should be the missing Ferrari! - The Editor

  • @arunantony3207
    @arunantony3207 Před 21 dnem

    I think not only constructors but also wdc is also in play if there is competition like this

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem

      The WDC if Red bull keep struggling and max have bad lucks like in Australia and Miami if not you know the answer lol

  • @slmgaming6937
    @slmgaming6937 Před 21 dnem +1

    There was a grand prix????
    I thought it was the monaco formula one car show?

  • @chadpatrick5112
    @chadpatrick5112 Před 17 dny +1

    Red Bull's weakness was not exposed in the Monaco GP. The Monaco GP's weaknesses were exposed in the Monaco GP.
    This race is a parade run at 150 mph and needs to change.

  • @Dareios074
    @Dareios074 Před 21 dnem +1

    The actual race in Monaco is always on Saturday. This event is outdated.

  • @chiraagchaudhary352
    @chiraagchaudhary352 Před 21 dnem +1

    This whole race was like a formation lap 😂😂

  • @Luftkuhlt964
    @Luftkuhlt964 Před 21 dnem +3

    Their weakness was their 200cm width. Awful awful GP

  • @eudofia
    @eudofia Před 21 dnem +6

    Wait! I thought it was Max's supreme talent that was carrying Redbull and not the car.
    Max could have just carried that Redbull on his head, sprint around Monaco, and win easily.

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 21 dnem

      Lol

    • @adibz959
      @adibz959 Před 21 dnem +2

      Same with Hamilton right? I thought he's legendary driver who can win on any cars 🤣

    • @eudofia
      @eudofia Před 20 dny

      @@adibz959 Why bring Hamilton into this? The story is about RedBull and Max. Did you get butt hurt with my comment about your boy? Chill, there are many more races remaining in the season.

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m Před 19 dny

      ​@@eudofiaLol

  • @Quazi-moto
    @Quazi-moto Před 21 dnem

    A tad off-subject, but I think every driver should be eligible for the point for fastest lap. It would make the back half of the grid a little more interesting if they could score more than 0, 1, or 2 points after one-third of the season.

  • @gmched52
    @gmched52 Před 20 dny

    No one should score points if the car in front of them laps them. No racing took place on Sunday

  • @donaldduck4888
    @donaldduck4888 Před 21 dnem +1

    Possibly the most tedious GP I have ever watched. Apart from Ocon's usual moment of madness.

  • @Jcoxy2k10
    @Jcoxy2k10 Před 9 dny

    Slower corners is the issue for the RB20

  • @KainedbutAble123
    @KainedbutAble123 Před 17 dny

    I’m a Max fan but would love a championship battle between him and Charles. Props to Charles on TWO excellent race starts at Monaco, beating Piastri to the corner both times.

  • @tjteam12
    @tjteam12 Před 18 dny

    Why you wrote twice Mercedes in sector 1? Minute 3:52

  • @user-no6gy9sd3f
    @user-no6gy9sd3f Před 21 dnem +1

    They main weaknesses is the second driver