Heavy trigger return springs are life. I put them in all my USP/P30 series now. Adds a negligible amount of weight to the trigger pull, but gives that positive, bouncy reset that you're looking for, and makes the take-up in each pull more responsive. Lighter isn't always better
@@navyman8903 Stock hammer spring, heavy TRS and Enhanced FPBS is the way to go. Clean wall at sear engagement, but responsive and not draggy. I'm looking forward to adding a Grayguns kit whenever they're avail. again too.
Yes agreed....my favorite pistol of all time. Im not just saying that. I've a P30L and P30sk both V1 LEM'S. I also have a VP9 and VP9L. Im pulling the trigger on another P30L V1 with Night sights this weekend....
I installed the greyguns flat trigger in mine and WHAT A DIFFERENCE for me!! I have big hands and with the standard p30 trigger that starts vertical and breaks all the way at the rear, I just couldn't get a smooth pull without my finger moving on the face of the trigger and affecting my accuracy. The flat trigger starts more forward and breaks when its vertical. Huge improvement!! And makes transitioning to other guns easier.
Just installed the flat trigger on mine but haven’t made it to the range. Did you also move to a larger/smaller backstrap given the angle of the trigger?
@@jrodie7I didn't change the backstrap after installing the trigger. I'm not sure which backstrap I have on mine , it's either the smallest or the middle one. I chose the backstrap that puts my grip fingers where I want them around the front of the grip so I didn't want that to change. I had tried all the different configurations of grips when I was using the old trigger and settled on my current setup as what fits my hand the best . The new trigger with that setup is perfect for me.
I'm glad to hear you went back in and changed the sear pin. Looking forward to hearing more. Thank you for posting on this! I keep waiting for the v3 version from GG to be back in stock... Also interested to learn how you got the pin out of the sear/decocker.
IT was a horrible balancing act with my magpul AR wrench being used as a hammer with a punch. It came out with 3 swift and firm hits. I'll make sure to do a proper install video on another gun here soon. Once I can afford additional kits. I have a P30 V3 and possibly a P2k V3 planned.
Did you notice more overtravel on DA after installing the kit? When I installed the kit in mine I noticed the trigger sat back just a touch in single action mode, which decreased overtravel in SA, but it seemed like the DA broke sooner, creating a little bit more overtravel on just the DA.
I have a well well worn USP9 that I'm pretty sure would benefit from all new springs, sometimes seems to fire at reset. Would you recommend the Gray Guns kit as part of that?
On the p30sk I did the initial install following your guide, with no issues, but now I'm going back to install the pin and I cannot locate where it goes... Please help!
I've been watching some of you vids . You have a nice HK collection . I have one question and I figure you would be the person to ask because you know HK's . I have a HK USP 40 S&W and its a real beauty of a beast . I was wondering do you think the HK P30L in 40 S&W is just as good or do you think its better , considering the HK USP was made for the 40 S&W ?
I hope its not a dumb question . I installed the kit sear pin and all and the function of the safety before would not allow any movement of the hammer...since i installed the kit the safety is different now when i engage it there is hammer movement is that how ot works? PLEASE HELP...THANKS
I installed most of the kit no problem on the p30l no safety variant but my question is do i have to install the firing pin block spring? Just seems like it reduces take up in the trigger and doesnt affect functionality.
Is this just one way they charge more for the hk45? I mean, hk could have made a better trigger in the p30. Seems like they were purposely sandbagging the p30.
That's an amazing choice. I'm eyeballing one and an OD green P2k. We'll see what happens. But the USP9c is a great little gun. Highly recommend Trijicon HD's for it also.
gotta run but I will be back to watch this one later tonight. very interested to hear how it turned out. I've been running my SIG's lately but itching to get back into my Hk's
Very cool. I agree with you, I love the p30 and when you shoot it a lot I really like the trigger. But if you shoot a lot of different guns you can notice it. The usp match trigger is great. If hk could make triggers like SIG the world would be perfect. And we definitely need to find time to get together.
@@runningjalapeno4707 Yes, since that post I got the P30L, a HK45, a P2000 v3, P2000 v1 (now my daily carry) and this past Monday I picked up a brand new USP Expert 9mm. I was lucky to get smoking deals on the HK45 and P2000's as they were "used" but all were in excellent condition.
Can you please do a video with the lem with GG trigger kit please? I like the LEM giving you that much push before the wall but I'm curious to see how much the GG kit shortens it😊
Two things. First, your total view count is at 1,776,011...'merica. Second, how is this upgrade holding up? In your opinion is it as solid as can be for reliability?
Love my p30, do you have any experience with the m and p 2.0 compact. If so, your thoughts? Personally its very good out of the box. Especially after I put a apex in it.
I'll see if I can rent one at the range. I've only fired the first gen M&P's so far. But it is on my to do list and Smith and Wesson hasn't pissed me off lately with their 2nd Amendment shenanigans they're known for on occasion. I'm almost ready to forgive them.
I'd like to buy one, but first they have to make one for the v4.1 Swiss LEM P30. plus, GG is out of stock, atm. I am guessing that they put out 50 or a hundred kits and they are waiting for user feedback to see if there are any issues or changes required.
Barry Paulus v4.1 Swiss LEM? please tell me more! I remember hearing years ago about a v4.1 P30, but not referred to as Swiss. You have to have the parts to install yourself right? And very rare I believe.
@@navyman8903 Which do you prefer between the P30LS and the VP9? I've heard some people say the P30 is a higher quality firearm, while others say the only difference is striker vs hammer fired. Thoughts?
Is it possible to get the P30S with the LEM? I'd want the P30 for an EDC. I like what people are saying about the LEM trigger. However, I want that safety on it! (I have two small girls.) I'll train my butt off to factor in the safety, but it has to be on it.
@@navyman8903the GHM9 is the HK VP9 of B&T. If you are dead set on getting a B&T I'd reccomend you get the APC9 that takes Glock mags not just for the elitism factor but because the B&T magazines arent very good to be real honest with you.
@@brian5152 Love it. It's so light and handy and I can take it almost anywhere with me inside a small gym bag or backpack. The only real draw backs are the trigger (it's not bad but if you are a trigger snob who obsesses about reset and crisp breaks this isnt for you) and the mags. They tend to break if you drop them on concrete. I'm hoping the GMH9 sales will draw attention to these problems enough for B&T to make better mags like CZ did with the scorpion or draws magpul and ETS's attention to make their own mags for this gun.
Why is your left thumb holding the slide instead of holding down your right thumb away from the slide??? Be glad HK has anti-recoil technology otherwise you might hang up and stove pipe quite often. Slide and thumb control discipline needed, good review though, nice shooting. HK P30 .40S&W double action w/ hammer and de-cocker. That’s my daily protector. Critical Defense. No safety, trigger discipline only.
Heavy trigger return springs are life. I put them in all my USP/P30 series now. Adds a negligible amount of weight to the trigger pull, but gives that positive, bouncy reset that you're looking for, and makes the take-up in each pull more responsive. Lighter isn't always better
I actually completely agree and I'm debating putting that thing back in there for that very reason.
@@navyman8903 Stock hammer spring, heavy TRS and Enhanced FPBS is the way to go. Clean wall at sear engagement, but responsive and not draggy. I'm looking forward to adding a Grayguns kit whenever they're avail. again too.
@@Disirregardless variant 4 is the way 100%
Why is p30 content on youtube so rare, i have a p30L v1 and i love it! Hope you make a lot more videos on the p30 line... subscribed
Yes agreed....my favorite pistol of all time. Im not just saying that. I've a P30L and P30sk both V1 LEM'S. I also have a VP9 and VP9L. Im pulling the trigger on another P30L V1 with Night sights this weekend....
Garcia,
Perhaps : : people attracted more to Walther PPQ models or Glock G19s.
Go to HK USP or VP9 models.
I installed the greyguns flat trigger in mine and WHAT A DIFFERENCE for me!! I have big hands and with the standard p30 trigger that starts vertical and breaks all the way at the rear, I just couldn't get a smooth pull without my finger moving on the face of the trigger and affecting my accuracy. The flat trigger starts more forward and breaks when its vertical. Huge improvement!! And makes transitioning to other guns easier.
Just installed the flat trigger on mine but haven’t made it to the range. Did you also move to a larger/smaller backstrap given the angle of the trigger?
@@jrodie7I didn't change the backstrap after installing the trigger. I'm not sure which backstrap I have on mine , it's either the smallest or the middle one. I chose the backstrap that puts my grip fingers where I want them around the front of the grip so I didn't want that to change. I had tried all the different configurations of grips when I was using the old trigger and settled on my current setup as what fits my hand the best . The new trigger with that setup is perfect for me.
I'm glad to hear you went back in and changed the sear pin. Looking forward to hearing more. Thank you for posting on this! I keep waiting for the v3 version from GG to be back in stock... Also interested to learn how you got the pin out of the sear/decocker.
IT was a horrible balancing act with my magpul AR wrench being used as a hammer with a punch. It came out with 3 swift and firm hits. I'll make sure to do a proper install video on another gun here soon. Once I can afford additional kits. I have a P30 V3 and possibly a P2k V3 planned.
Did you notice more overtravel on DA after installing the kit? When I installed the kit in mine I noticed the trigger sat back just a touch in single action mode, which decreased overtravel in SA, but it seemed like the DA broke sooner, creating a little bit more overtravel on just the DA.
I have a well well worn USP9 that I'm pretty sure would benefit from all new springs, sometimes seems to fire at reset. Would you recommend the Gray Guns kit as part of that?
On the p30sk I did the initial install following your guide, with no issues, but now I'm going back to install the pin and I cannot locate where it goes... Please help!
I'm waiting for them to get back in stock because I wanna do my P30L & P30SK.
I've been watching some of you vids . You have a nice HK collection . I have one question and I figure you would be the person to ask because you know HK's . I have a HK USP 40 S&W and its a real beauty of a beast . I was wondering do you think the HK P30L in 40 S&W is just as good or do you think its better , considering the HK USP was made for the 40 S&W ?
What do you think about the hkp30s v3? At classic firearms they have a grey version for 479$. Worth it? Add a grey guns trigger to it?
I've gotta ask you...what's your thoughts on Lazy Wolf? You gonna give them a try?
Devil dolphin is the vp9 long slide a lemon thoughts?
I hope its not a dumb question
. I installed the kit sear pin and all and the function of the safety before would not allow any movement of the hammer...since i installed the kit the safety is different now when i engage it there is hammer movement is that how ot works? PLEASE HELP...THANKS
I just got the srt for my p30 LEM. I’m wondering if it should go in my da/sa instead.
Well. Did it get you approval now. I’m thinking of getting the Grayguns kit for mine too. Also, waiting for the video on the sear pin
Heavy TRS will fix the trigger return on the USP9SD, the standard on is a medium. I prefer the heavy TRS, just like in the Todd Green Special.
Cool Video
Thanks.
I installed most of the kit no problem on the p30l no safety variant but my question is do i have to install the firing pin block spring? Just seems like it reduces take up in the trigger and doesnt affect functionality.
Yassss!
Is this just one way they charge more for the hk45? I mean, hk could have made a better trigger in the p30. Seems like they were purposely sandbagging the p30.
Well I’m getting me a USP compact in 9mm with the grey frame. I love my full size 45 so I’m sure I’ll love the compact 9mm
That's an amazing choice. I'm eyeballing one and an OD green P2k. We'll see what happens. But the USP9c is a great little gun. Highly recommend Trijicon HD's for it also.
I would kill for a grey framed USP. They never seem to make it to Ohio.
gotta run but I will be back to watch this one later tonight. very interested to hear how it turned out. I've been running my SIG's lately but itching to get back into my Hk's
I hope you enjoy it. IF you want to shoot it before buying it let me know. I'm not going back out again for a while.
Very cool. I agree with you, I love the p30 and when you shoot it a lot I really like the trigger. But if you shoot a lot of different guns you can notice it. The usp match trigger is great. If hk could make triggers like SIG the world would be perfect. And we definitely need to find time to get together.
I'm waiting for my LGS to find a P30L V3 for me, hopefully Gray Guns will have their kits back in stock by the time I get the pistol.
Did you get your P30L V3? I just picked one up at Americana Arms for $729.00 it was the LE.
@@runningjalapeno4707 Yes, since that post I got the P30L, a HK45, a P2000 v3, P2000 v1 (now my daily carry) and this past Monday I picked up a brand new USP Expert 9mm. I was lucky to get smoking deals on the HK45 and P2000's as they were "used" but all were in excellent condition.
single action not working after reset
did you notice a difference between just the connector and then when you installed the sear pin afterwards? thanks
There was a very slight difference in the sound and the felt "thunk" of the reset. But it was very very slight.
Can you please do a video with the lem with GG trigger kit please? I like the LEM giving you that much push before the wall but I'm curious to see how much the GG kit shortens it😊
The reset will be the same, I currently don't have the LEM P30L anymore.
Two things. First, your total view count is at 1,776,011...'merica. Second, how is this upgrade holding up? In your opinion is it as solid as can be for reliability?
Love my p30, do you have any experience with the m and p 2.0 compact. If so, your thoughts? Personally its very good out of the box. Especially after I put a apex in it.
I'll see if I can rent one at the range. I've only fired the first gen M&P's so far. But it is on my to do list and Smith and Wesson hasn't pissed me off lately with their 2nd Amendment shenanigans they're known for on occasion. I'm almost ready to forgive them.
@@navyman8903 I have the M&P 2.0 full size 9mm. I let another guy shoot it and he said the trigger is way better than his first gen M&P.
Computer guys, car guys, and gun guys are all the same guy.
I'd like to buy one, but first they have to make one for the v4.1 Swiss LEM P30.
plus, GG is out of stock, atm.
I am guessing that they put out 50 or a hundred kits and they are waiting for user feedback to see if there are any issues or changes required.
Barry Paulus v4.1 Swiss LEM? please tell me more! I remember hearing years ago about a v4.1 P30, but not referred to as Swiss. You have to have the parts to install yourself right? And very rare I believe.
How about sticking with a stock HK P30?
That's my carry gun, a stock P30.
Did you notice the safety on the p30l rubbing or making the safety version uncomfortable
Kinda, it's exactly where I want to put my hand.
Thinking of getting HKVP9
I really like all of the VP9's I've shot, and I've got 5 in the house between my wife's guns/my guns.
Glad to hear some positive feedback on the vp9. Not super common on CZcams. Can you do a video on the VP9SK? Do you recommend them?
@@navyman8903 Which do you prefer between the P30LS and the VP9? I've heard some people say the P30 is a higher quality firearm, while others say the only difference is striker vs hammer fired. Thoughts?
Is it possible to get the P30S with the LEM? I'd want the P30 for an EDC. I like what people are saying about the LEM trigger. However, I want that safety on it! (I have two small girls.) I'll train my butt off to factor in the safety, but it has to be on it.
11:12 wtf? Someone threw a grenade to the back left?? :D
Can you take off the safety
No. You are stuck with your version of trigger/safety.
I enjoyed your review, but what's up with all the audio jumps?
Editing for time.
do p30LS v3 vs mk25 both suppressed
HK makes a threaded barrel. Drop in. Ready to go.
I'll see if I can make it happen. My buddy @Gundae might be able to help you out short term.
Glad your kit isnt giving you any issues. I would shoot my P30L more but I'm kinda broke after buying my B&T TP9
I'm looking at the GHM9 very seriously to be honest with you.
@@navyman8903the GHM9 is the HK VP9 of B&T. If you are dead set on getting a B&T I'd reccomend you get the APC9 that takes Glock mags not just for the elitism factor but because the B&T magazines arent very good to be real honest with you.
@@Gun_Dae how do u like the TP9 looks interesting to me
@@brian5152 Love it. It's so light and handy and I can take it almost anywhere with me inside a small gym bag or backpack. The only real draw backs are the trigger (it's not bad but if you are a trigger snob who obsesses about reset and crisp breaks this isnt for you) and the mags. They tend to break if you drop them on concrete. I'm hoping the GMH9 sales will draw attention to these problems enough for B&T to make better mags like CZ did with the scorpion or draws magpul and ETS's attention to make their own mags for this gun.
Why don't you just get the LEM?
To say "drop in" is not really accurate.
Why is your left thumb holding the slide instead of holding down your right thumb away from the slide??? Be glad HK has anti-recoil technology otherwise you might hang up and stove pipe quite often. Slide and thumb control discipline needed, good review though, nice shooting. HK P30 .40S&W double action w/ hammer and de-cocker. That’s my daily protector. Critical Defense. No safety, trigger discipline only.