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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
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  • @tumeric6227
    @tumeric6227 Před rokem +11292

    American Football will definitely become more popular than baseball, maybe even basketball but it will never overtake football

    • @Vyker
      @Vyker Před rokem

      Americans are the masters of brainwashing(marketing). If they grab the young next generation then it will overtake football eventually. Europe needs to do more to win the minds of the young.

    • @Rayzajw
      @Rayzajw Před rokem +1876

      It probably won't pass basketball only cause like Football(soccer) it can be played anywhere with anyone. Football is no.1 basketball is no.2

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 Před rokem +115

      Football 🏈 love the sport and I love Football ⚽ also! But I'm in love with American Football 🏈 Alot

    • @chrispanca1590
      @chrispanca1590 Před rokem +817

      Basketball, like Football, is a game which can be played anywhere, anytime, by anyone. American football doesn't really have that.

    • @wussrestbrook1200
      @wussrestbrook1200 Před rokem +264

      @@MrJoeSomebody u can still dribble with just the ball how can you play football by urself ?

  • @ElBayadKhalil
    @ElBayadKhalil Před rokem +4810

    For me the biggest problem about watching NFL is the commericals.

    • @QuantumNoir
      @QuantumNoir Před rokem +384

      👏🏼🙌🏼
      I'm American and I refuse for that reason. I'm used to soccer and boxing where there's no commercials or just a 15 minute segment.

    • @boost3188
      @boost3188 Před rokem +1

      Yes, there is a channel called RedZone that instead of going to commercials they skip around between the live games to show the important plays. It’s pretty much the only thing I watch.

    • @williamlembke7828
      @williamlembke7828 Před rokem +69

      Hear me out. I dislike it as well so I just go use the restroom, get snack, check my phone I was ignoring, clean, play guitar. You name it.
      If it's a live stream I can pause I'll pause it, go do something, come back & fast forward through commercials when I get to them.

    • @ElBayadKhalil
      @ElBayadKhalil Před rokem +461

      @@williamlembke7828 When the possessions are short and the game is back and forth, it's just unbearable. I think commercials are one of the reasons NFL will never have an internationnal appeal.

    • @williamlembke7828
      @williamlembke7828 Před rokem +18

      @@ElBayadKhalil You make good points. However I believe that it'll gain popularity in Germany, Britain, & Mexico.
      I know there was 5 pubs in England & Ireland together that were playing the Vikings (name of my favorite NFL team) which means it's popular enough for some to watch.
      The commercials are horrible.
      I don't think any other countries are going to take interest & the counties I listed will have fans but not as many as sports that already exist there.

  • @SpiritmanProductions
    @SpiritmanProductions Před 7 měsíci +654

    Culturally in England, football goes way, way deeper than American Football ever could. Nothing about the sport itself, or the cheerleaders, or the commercials every 6 minutes, can ever compete with the tribal rivalry of football. It's not just a spectacle, it's a way of life.

    • @ernestocaro9802
      @ernestocaro9802 Před 7 měsíci +13

      Perfectly said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @SpiritmanProductions
      @SpiritmanProductions Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@ernestocaro9802 Thank you. I know the same applies in many other countries, too.

    • @kevinmenendez361
      @kevinmenendez361 Před 7 měsíci +20

      Brazil has entered the chat…

    • @BulletRain100
      @BulletRain100 Před 7 měsíci +8

      The biggest issue England has is most likely wealth. Until you're willing for each town to spend tens of thousands or upwards to millions of pounds to have the boys of your town beat the boys of the town next over for purely prestige, you don't have a good environment for American football. American football requires an insane degree of tribalism, sports fanaticism, and disposable wealth for it to work in the United States, and most other countries don't have the right mix. Clubs have an actual business model that makes sense. School sports in America are based on donations from wealthy locals and alumni.

    • @SpiritmanProductions
      @SpiritmanProductions Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@kevinmenendez361 Yes, I already added a comment regarding other countries. ;-)

  • @lajc7222
    @lajc7222 Před rokem +322

    Football is life in south America, africa, europe and Asia. NFL will never overthrow football

    • @royemmer3703
      @royemmer3703 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Good we don’t want yall ruining are sport, appreciate this statement now I can rest knowing other countries won’t get their hands on it because they don’t like it

    • @Angelgamer-hl6jt
      @Angelgamer-hl6jt Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@royemmer3703El fútbol americano es malísimo el campeón de la NFL es el campeón del mundo en cambio en el fútbol para ser campeón del mundo es mil veces más difícil

    • @Countryballs24992
      @Countryballs24992 Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@royemmer3703who would want to play it? You guys tried to ruin our game in the 90s with dumb ideas.

    • @royemmer3703
      @royemmer3703 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Countryballs24992 good keep thinking that way👍🏻

    • @huntermahan1717
      @huntermahan1717 Před 2 měsíci +12

      ​@royemmer3703 way to make Americans seem even more ignorant

  • @nspill327
    @nspill327 Před rokem +4983

    I think a part of the issue is that two sports are called Football. The name affects how it’s marketed.

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy Před rokem +186

      Your could advertise as the NFL. I don’t know if American football or gridiron football would ring well in abroad countries

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 Před rokem

      Call it what it is, handegg, besides no one watches it not cus of its name, but cus there's no skill involved in the game, it's just fat dudes slamming into each other repeatedly, no one watches it cus it's lame

    • @sodapop83
      @sodapop83 Před rokem +790

      i find unabashedly rude from the americans to call theirs 'football'

    • @chidumebiarukwe6436
      @chidumebiarukwe6436 Před rokem +51

      @@MustacheDLuffy gridiron or gridder would be better

    • @danielalmeida7382
      @danielalmeida7382 Před rokem +44

      @@sodapop83 not more rude than the Irish calling it “Gaelic Football”

  • @Spacenugget9
    @Spacenugget9 Před rokem +996

    NFL’s biggest issue for overseas viewers is that it is a quintessentially American sport, with all the trappings (myriad ads, stoppages etc) that come with it. These are antithetical to the mindset of most of the rest of the worlds when it comes to entertainment and sporting culture.

    • @universesays1842
      @universesays1842 Před 10 měsíci +165

      american football/grindion it's a boring version of rugby,they play 5-10 seconds and then stop 30-60 seconds so it's mostly wasting time

    • @Soltain6
      @Soltain6 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Ben oui on ne base pas tout sur les rendements, mais la passion, ils ont encore beaucoup à apprend

    • @smashyboi6887
      @smashyboi6887 Před 9 měsíci +28

      @@universesays1842Honestly I love watching American football even with the stoppage, every play feels important

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass Před 9 měsíci

      a quintessentially GRINGO sport ...the real Americans are the brown people of Mexico, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc. .... real Americans don't like tackle ball

    • @vayres7512
      @vayres7512 Před 8 měsíci +26

      Absolutely right. In soccer matches if the television stop the game dozens of times the people won´t see that. American football is made for the corporations make their money.

  • @Oli-Johnson
    @Oli-Johnson Před 8 měsíci +36

    A child can watch a football game, get inspired and go outside on their own and practice skills or shots. Even in the poorest places of the world where they might not be able to buy a football, they can make one out of something. You can play it with one friend or 30. Any two items are enough to mark out a goal. No other sport is as accessible as football.

  • @Sal.K--BC
    @Sal.K--BC Před 9 měsíci +246

    As a Canadian, I prefer Rugby over American Football. I would love to see a big rugby league in North America.

    • @prysrek8858
      @prysrek8858 Před 7 měsíci +21

      Americans are scared of scratches, That's why they need all that gear

    • @willdanger6833
      @willdanger6833 Před 7 měsíci +34

      @@prysrek8858 There are far more injuries in football than rugby. But nice try

    • @prysrek8858
      @prysrek8858 Před 7 měsíci +29

      @@willdanger6833
      "nice try", lol what?
      Injury rates for the shoulder, wrist/hand, and lower leg and for sprains, fractures, and contusions in rugby are >4 times as high as those in football.
      Please don't ever try to correct somebody in your life ever again.

    • @willdanger6833
      @willdanger6833 Před 7 měsíci +37

      @@prysrek8858 This has been studied before. Football is more dangerous. Rugby players suffer more cuts and bruises but football players get concussions, broken bones, torn ligaments and heat-related injuries.

    • @prysrek8858
      @prysrek8858 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@willdanger6833 first you disagree with me and say there are more injuries in football and the next day you say Rugby has more injuries?

  • @MaguireGOAT4Ever
    @MaguireGOAT4Ever Před rokem +2693

    I'm from Germany and I've never met anyone that likes American football... We all love Football/soccer

    • @anxietyattaxk
      @anxietyattaxk Před rokem +180

      That’s 🧢 and you know it… just look at the München game

    • @sirwadsontoast5928
      @sirwadsontoast5928 Před rokem +125

      That's fine. We can just look at the munchen game as proof that there's NFL fans in Germany and the fact that they had 3 million ticket request. 🤷🏾‍♂️. I personally know a NFL fan living in Germany.

    • @vitormascarenhas4884
      @vitormascarenhas4884 Před rokem +186

      Most people there probably didn't even know the game rules

    • @Clistes
      @Clistes Před rokem +102

      @@anxietyattaxk How many of them where Americans ( Rammstein is the biggest US Base in EU) I think in Germany and neighboring countries there are more then 70,000 Americans who would love to see the game.

    • @Arejen03
      @Arejen03 Před rokem +181

      yep, im Polish and i also never met someone who watches american football

  • @ogisrb101
    @ogisrb101 Před rokem +2579

    American football will never overtake football, football has become a part of culture in a lot of country it is also simple and doesn't require anything but the ball to play it, ultimately it's simplicity makes spectating so much more exciting especially when somebody scores since in football you can see only a couple of goals a game there is always anticipation for that legendary moment that feels like its changing history and creating miracles

    • @bjorncopperside4572
      @bjorncopperside4572 Před rokem +68

      i agree that american football will never overtake football in Europe, but its not about becoming the most popular sport its about adding variety, look man the americans have baseball, basketball, american football, boxing and the ufc. All we have is football, it would be nice if we had american football or the nba here aswell. wouldnt you agree?

    • @benitocamelo1488
      @benitocamelo1488 Před rokem +13

      I agree that American football will never overtake ⚽, but the latter's popularity is plummeting in many places, also many teens nowadays are indifferent to it, despite having been a part of many cultures

    • @purpleirklegrovestreet
      @purpleirklegrovestreet Před rokem +32

      @@bjorncopperside4572 oh my gosh, there are europeans that exist that are actually interested in american sports. I feel like if european football fans were a little less quick to jump to the “football is bigger than handegg and always will be” argument, maybe more americans would give it a try. The overall backlash from europen football to american football fans is a huge turn off and is a huge reason why americans dont like european football. I feel like if we tried to share our sports and what we like about them and teach others about them, soccer would become more popular in the US and american football would become more popular overseas

    • @purpleirklegrovestreet
      @purpleirklegrovestreet Před rokem +9

      @@bjorncopperside4572 i love the energy from european football fans but it is very similar to american football. After a long week at work, we all come together to drink overpriced alcohol and hot dogs just like u guys, probably with less unhealthy food though. American football is definitely a sport i feel like europeans would like if they gave it a try. The game makes no sense if u don’t understand it, but when u do, its a great game to watch and the stadium feeling is unreal if u go watch in person. Basketball is even better, especially up close.

    • @ivand5699
      @ivand5699 Před rokem +73

      The problem i see with american “football” is that you cant play by yourself alone. In real football or basketball you can dribble and do tricks by yourself to enjoy and improve the skills you can practice shots but how the f would you do that with the american thing. Are you gonna tackle the fridge?

  • @vassilisxerikos3908
    @vassilisxerikos3908 Před 11 měsíci +146

    The main issue of American football is that it clashes with association football for a similar niche. Both played outdoors in massive pitches with lots of players. Asking NFL to overtake Champions League in Europe is like asking for Cricket to overtake MLB in USA. Ain’t gonna happen.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci +8

      People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few.
      Its fine if you dont like NFL, thats your opinion. Just like its my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

    • @lurji
      @lurji Před 6 měsíci +22

      @@epicow_1973bro is butthurt

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci

      @@lurji someones mad lol

    • @sirkle3087
      @sirkle3087 Před 5 měsíci

      @@epicow_1973 someones fat lol

    • @mrtee3988
      @mrtee3988 Před 5 měsíci +20

      @@epicow_1973 Be serious. A game that constantly pauses, only to do one throw and a catch a lot of the time is nowhere near what could be considered the best sport.

  • @ouicertes9764
    @ouicertes9764 Před 11 měsíci +308

    There are major differences between europe and american sport culture
    - franchise VS clubs. Clubs are integral part of the city, they can not be moved. Some clubs are majority owned by the fans. The rich owner of the clubs don't involve themselves into the competition or speak to media.
    - Clubs develop players from a young age, there are specific cultures associated with clubs. The "draft" is absolutely an american thing, it sounds like the military, very weird.
    - Youngs don't play for their highschool but for a club or a youth academy, they are not "stars" amongst highschoolers, they get professional experience early and start with better players to earn their place.
    - Rivalries between clubs are very entranched, the fans absolutely love their local team even if they suck, it's the pride of where you come from/live.
    - Tier leagues and relegation. The best league only features the best teams, and if your team suck, you get relegated into a lesser league until you get better and climb up. Football tried to make a superleague, american style, where they are guaranteed a spot, and it didn't go well with the fans. There is pride involved, how can ou say your team is better if you don't prove it against lesser teams. Also, it happens that semipro teams can climb up into the best league and win, absolutely legendary storytelling.
    Also secondary league help develop young players, if they are good they get signed into better teams.
    - Tanking. Absolute shame for sports. Why is losing matches rewarded?

    • @shadybrain3424
      @shadybrain3424 Před 9 měsíci +13

      @ouicertes9764 well first, the age old rivalry's and club mentality of association football exists in american football but all that stuff is mostly in college football which is the NFL's feeder system. College football in america started before the nfl existed so some of those rivalry's are very very old and are some of the craziest games you'll see in the sport. the reason at the pro level that losing is rewarded is for parity, the same reason why the salary cap exists. in the nfl there arent going to be any oil barons coming in to buy up all the good players and just win everything all the time. any team has the opportunity to rise and fall to the bottom.

    • @wingedhussar1453
      @wingedhussar1453 Před 9 měsíci

      Football is usa is for the rich and elite. That's why it's the biggest franchise.its a cash cow and they have done shady things before

    • @hiroprotagonitis
      @hiroprotagonitis Před 8 měsíci +2

      Counterpoint to the “clubs va franchises” argument are college teams, where there is still a local attachment

    • @baki3867
      @baki3867 Před 8 měsíci +18

      ⁠@@shadybrain3424There is American football rivalry, but it’s just not comparable to World Football rivalry. When countries play against each other like Scotland vs England, China vs Japan, Japan vs South Korea, China vs South Korea, Germany vs Netherlands, Spain vs Portugal, Norway vs Sweden, Ghana vs Nigeria, Brazil vs Argentina, and more. These countries dislike each other either because of political reasons or they fought a war in the past, which explains the rivalry. It’s a country against another country which is the closest you can get to going to war against another country. American football doesn’t has national derbies of countries disliking each other, bc American football is just popular in the US. Club team rivalries can get pretty intense, bc one city is liberal and the other one is conservative which dislike each other.

    • @martinmcmartinezface4243
      @martinmcmartinezface4243 Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@baki3867agreed, but I wouldn't name Spain vs Portugal as high rivarly game. At least from the Spanish side, we don't see Portugal as our big rival national team. In fact I would say thay we don't really have a big rival that we get extremely excited to play against.
      Our rivalries are more at club level, with Real Madrid vs Barcelona (el clásico) being the top one by far.

  • @siddey9782
    @siddey9782 Před rokem +2994

    ⚽ is too big to overcome my friend. Football ⚽ is just different here, The raw emotion we carry for 90+ minutes on the field can't be overcome with any other sports.
    Edit- Thanks for the support in Likes but let's not fight each other 🙏🏼

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy Před rokem +77

      I’m pretty sure it’s not about creating a more popular sport than soccer

    • @siddey9782
      @siddey9782 Před rokem +27

      @@MustacheDLuffy Yes it does or why else would you endorse it if you don't want that game to be influenced or played there.

    • @siddey9782
      @siddey9782 Před rokem +147

      @@MustacheDLuffy The reason Football is huge here cause all you need is a ⚽ that's it, even if you are by yourself you can dribble, juggle or can learn a new trick. You don't have to be supreme physically to play that sport like American 🏈. You need stamina tbh because that's 90 mins of up and down on the field can be very exhausting.

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 Před rokem +30

      ​​@@siddey9782 That's a lie you don't need nothing but a 🏈 and learn how to pass it kick it and plus now you could play Flag Football 🏈 and plus Football 🏈 not even an Olympic sport 🔥

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 Před rokem +13

      ​@@siddey9782 Not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to explain

  • @diegoalbues2471
    @diegoalbues2471 Před rokem +1941

    I'm Brazilian and like (almost) all Brazilians, I love football, real football (my second favorite sport is volleyball).
    And I think there are reasons why football (which Americans call soccer) is the most popular sport on Earth, while American Football is popular only in the US.
    1 - Anyone can practice soccer (tall, short, thin, strong, rich, poor, men, women), anytime and anywhere, and you don't need a lot of equipment to play, in many poor places in the world ( in which, I also did this a lot as a child), the children play soccer using their sandals or building blocks as a goalpost .
    While to play American Football, it will be necessary to obtain those "armors" that look like medieval ones, and the player has to be very strong, and preferably very tall (as well as other sports, such as volleyball and basketball).
    2 - Low scoring and tied games: Americans dislike (Americans like very high scoring sports) and don't understand low scoring and tied football.
    Low scoring is one of the reasons football is so exciting, as each goal that occurs can drastically change the outcome of the match.
    Imagine a situation where the match is tied at 1-1. Certainly the fans of these teams are tense, because their team can score one more goal and win the match; suffer a goal and lose the game or there is still the third possibility of the match ending with a 1-1 draw.
    And this is the differential of football, while the other sports each team has only two possibilities of result (victory or defeat) in soccer there are three possibilities (victory, defeat and draw)
    3 - In American football (read NFL) and other American sports leagues, there is no promotion/relegation system, and for the rest of the world, it's boring, you go decades and decades against the same opponents, and the franchises that are at the bottom of the table, they start losing on purpose to receive the best players from the Drafts, contrary to what happens in football leagues (and depending on the country this system also occurs in basketball, volleyball, handball and so on) around the world, where clubs fight fiercely to stay in the First Division, and every year, EVERY YEAR, there is an exchange of first division clubs with second division clubs.
    4 - In the US, there are sports franchises.
    In the rest of the world (mainly in football) there are sports clubs.
    Which makes football fans feel very identified with a club in their city, unlike the American leagues where the franchise can simply flee the city, if that city is no longer profitable for the owner of the franchise.
    5 - Football is an easy game to understand: 11 players for each team, and the objective is to make the ball enter the opponent's net (of course, this must be done with feet, because only the goalkeeper can use his hands on the matches).
    Sports such as American Football and Baseball are very complicated to understand if you are not American (although baseball has some popularity in Japan in some Latin American countries such as Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela, ironically countries that currently have a troubled relationship with the US).
    I've seen Americans wanting to compare NFL, with the UEFA Champions League, or even the FIFA World Cup (tournaments of the most popular sport on the planet).
    I believe that American megalomania makes us forget that the Champions League is not a tournament for just one country, but for an entire continent, while the World Cup is a tournament involving 32 national teams (now it will be 48) and more than 200 countries in the world, and billions of people in the world watch these tournaments (and other national and continental football championships, clubs and national teams like, Copa Libertadores, Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Euro Championship, Copa America, AFC Champions League, Europa League among thousands of other football competitions around the world), unlike the NFL / Super Bowl, which only has media appeal in the USA itself.

    • @duskthunder9274
      @duskthunder9274 Před rokem +17

      Why do u have the Russian flag in your pfp

    • @diegoalbues2471
      @diegoalbues2471 Před rokem +164

      @@duskthunder9274 answer is simple! I love Russia and your people, culture, language, climate, music,sports, landscape, history, women's beauty, strength and grandeur of this country !

    • @SeanDaNerd
      @SeanDaNerd Před rokem +75

      I agree for the most part but I want to add a couple things. For point 2, yes Americans dislike draws/ties. But draws exist in American Football. In my 26 years of life, I’ve only seen 2 draws in the NFL. Once it reaches the playoffs (which I liken to knockouts) then draws will not be allowed.
      Point 3: I definitely wish there was a relegation system, but to my knowledge no one wants to invest in a lower league. Separate competitors to the NFL exist, but I don’t think they’ve ever managed (or maybe even considered) making a deal to create a promotion/relegation system. I hate “tanking” with a passion though.
      Point 5: I just want to add that there are even specific nuanced rules that players or even referees might not know. I remember one time the head coach of my Chargers told the referee about a specific rule and got a call to go his way.
      And as for your final point, the only reason why the comparison to the UCL or WC is fair at all is because no countries outside of the US or Canada play gridiron football. So I’m terms of the skill level, yes it is a demonstration of the top players. However, terms of cultural magnitude and even in terms of importance to the players and fans, the NFL championship probably doesn’t even compare to the passions of the EPL and DEFINITELY doesn’t compare to the passion for Campeonato Brasileiro or Primera Division. The NFL passion might not even compare to college football passion. So yes, the NFL doesn’t deserve comparison to the UCL or WC. Hell I only got interested in world football in college and I already care about those two competitions more than the NFL.

    • @boringblaziken8122
      @boringblaziken8122 Před rokem +41

      The way the america sports drafts makes perfect sense, if the best team gets all the best players then they will always won so they will get even more good players. But if you have the losing teams get the better picks then all of a sudden the game becomes more balanced and each year you could have a new winner. Oppose to other sports where you get the same teams bring successful every single year

    • @odioalasmujeres
      @odioalasmujeres Před rokem +22

      ​@@diegoalbues2471
      Yeah i know
      but what they're doing is bad and some people think it's a bit offensive
      I don't blame using that picture but Russia is one of troublesome countries

  • @millerr8066
    @millerr8066 Před 7 měsíci +9

    The main issue is commercials. That’s literally it, even as an American, who is a pretty big NFL fan I can’t stand to sit on my couch and watch an entire broadcast. 15 fucking minutes of playing in an hour long game that takes three hours to finish? Yeah man I’ll catch the highlights on redzone, because what the fuck

  • @ow_oso
    @ow_oso Před 7 měsíci +14

    I love American football and Futbol but I don’t see it ever getting that big outside of the US. Looking at it from a birds eye view it’s no surprise Futbol is as big as it is. You don’t need a rule book or have it explained to you that the goal of the game is to get the ball in the net using your feet. It’s accessible and easy to understand at face value. Combine it with the fact that damn near every major country in the world has its own league and you get why it’s the biggest sport of all time.

  • @OMIMreacts
    @OMIMreacts Před rokem +281

    The reason why football (and to an extent basketball) is so popular is because it is so easy and self explanatory to play yourself. You can play it with just one friend and a ball, that's it. Kids love playing it and they don't need anyone explaining the rules. Barrier of entry is super low, and when youve played it yourself you're more likely to watch it as well

    • @neblinasp
      @neblinasp Před rokem +66

      it's like everything else in life, the less rules, less equipment, the more you feel comfortable and free, football is like that, simple, easy and you don't need to spend a lot of money to play, American football is the opposite of all this.

    • @thfccoys5103
      @thfccoys5103 Před 11 měsíci +21

      And it’s also a far better sport than American football and way more emotional.

    • @Slo-ryde
      @Slo-ryde Před 8 měsíci +14

      You can even play basketball by yourself as long as you have a hoop!

    • @dctrsnapl
      @dctrsnapl Před 8 měsíci

      you dont need the hoop @@Slo-ryde

    • @gotoastal
      @gotoastal Před 8 měsíci +4

      American kids play gridiron on the playground with a ball & no gear. It’s usually played with at least 8 kids to be more interesting, but there was not much of an issue having 15 vs 15 playing touch rules. Just like soccer where you can make a goal a tree & a rock, informal end zones are just as easy to create in just about any field.

  • @khvichakuprashvili6719
    @khvichakuprashvili6719 Před rokem +507

    I think American football will also need to compete with rugby in Europe. Not in Germany but In England and France rugby is quite popular and it offers kinda same entertainment as the American football. One time thing, a chosen match or something along those lines might attract people but I strongly believe it can't compete with football and rugby on regular basis. Also, keep in mind that people are interested in national competitions too like FIFA world cup or UEFA Euro. Rugby also has a world cup.

    • @kimgoalie
      @kimgoalie Před rokem +1

      Changes with the european league of football

    • @edwin7788
      @edwin7788 Před rokem +35

      I always thought rugby and American Football basically the same sport with different name

    • @bjorncopperside4572
      @bjorncopperside4572 Před rokem +22

      @@edwin7788 rugby they dont wear helmets and body armor so they dont hit as hard as american football, the rugby ball is bigger and you can only throw it to teamates behind you. I like watching both rugby and american football, personally i think the helmets and armor of american football look cool so i like it a bit more LOL

    • @jasoncallow860
      @jasoncallow860 Před rokem +116

      The worst thing about american football is the continual stoppages, Rugby is a free flowing game and all the players have to be able to run, pass and tackle. I tried watching american football, but it's too boring and fragmented. Rugby is far more entertaining as a spectacle.

    • @kimgoalie
      @kimgoalie Před rokem +2

      @@jasoncallow860 Football is way better than Rugby. it is so unique and exciting.

  • @wilsonzhang9639
    @wilsonzhang9639 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Football is best, Basketball is good, American football worst.

  • @revertrevertz5438
    @revertrevertz5438 Před 7 měsíci +4

    If the NFL wants to go abroad, the first step is opening a Franchise in Mexico. I know to some it may sound strange, but the NFL has a huge fan base there. I have no doubts it’s the second only to the US. Mexico City goes wild when rival universities play games. The Super Bowl is even shown at cinemas. So, just to test the ground, Mexico would be the best start. Add that that time zones and flights aren’t so bad, that can make the experience not so complicated as in Europe.

  • @towersthetoad2161
    @towersthetoad2161 Před rokem +573

    It failed because Rugby is already a thing internationally

    • @corentinm5169
      @corentinm5169 Před rokem +13

      I would not say "internationally" but more implemented around the world for sure

    • @malvarezroson
      @malvarezroson Před rokem +100

      @@corentinm5169 Have you ever seen the Rugby World Cup? It is trully an international game.

    • @dxfifa
      @dxfifa Před rokem +18

      @@malvarezroson Only France, Argentina, Italy and Japan have good level team and following outside of British colonies and influenced countries.
      Rugby is very minimal in the Americas, Asia (with the aforementioned Argentina and Japan the exceptions, maybe Uruguay has an argument). Also outside the former british colonies in Africa it is minimal. Another place where barely any rugby is played is northern/central/southern/eastern europe from belgium to finland to greece in a triangle. Only Georgia and Romania play rugby at a high rate there. Spain, Portugal and Russia all have a decent team but rugby is a very minor sport.
      Some British colonies like India and the Caribbean Islands don't even play rugby.
      Oceania/Australasia and the British Isles are the only two regions in the world where rugby is popular. And Australia/England/Scotland/Ireland all have much more popular forms of football than rugby union.
      NZ and Wales are the only notable nations where Rugby Union is the #1 sport. The only other countries where it is are pacific islands (Fiji, Samoa, Tonga being the most notable).
      It's mostly a British colonial game with medium popularity even in most of the colonies

    • @malvarezroson
      @malvarezroson Před rokem +57

      @@dxfifa good. I can see you ve done your Research. But it just prooves my point. Even though ir Is not as widespread as Football. It Is trully an international game.
      England
      Scotland
      Wales
      Ireland
      France
      Italy
      New Zeland
      Australia
      South África
      Argentina
      Japan
      Uruguay
      Georgia
      Romania
      Portugal
      Chile
      Samoa
      Fiji
      Tonga
      Im forggetng some
      NFL...... Just EEUU.

    • @jaimel88
      @jaimel88 Před rokem +59

      ​@@dxfifa the Rugby World Cup is the 3rd most watched global sporting event, after the FIFA World Cup and Summer Olympics. At least, this was true when I wrote a paper about it for school some years ago. The sport has only grown since then, while American Football is still..American. The Super Bowl isn't even on the same league as the FIFA World Cup, in terms of viewership.

  • @khalidcabrero6204
    @khalidcabrero6204 Před rokem +619

    American football isn't really a poor man's sport. It becomes complex quite quickly, and (something often overlooked) once it gets organized, it gets lopsided and unfun. I come from central-southern Africa, and when I was a kid an American aid volunteer helped a group of us organize a simple touch football team. However, that American visitor also happened to have also played college football, so he organized us well. taught us to run routes, plays, etc. That made us pretty much unbeatable in any game we set up against anybody. Nobody had any idea what we were doing or how to counter it. And that just made games unfun for everybody. We were not big or skilled , just well-organized by our "coach". Even a team of US embassy marines, twice our size and experience, were whalloped easily. And this is where I think American football loses its ability to become a "street sport". No game I can think of is so dependent on tactics and organization - or so tremendously tilted by them. So the game loses a lot of its simplicity, spontaneity and just the plain element of "fun". I love the game. But I can also see why it is not particularly appealing to those unfamiliar with it. Too much depends on tactics that are hard to understand, and it is difficult to see where the actual skills actually lie or even notice when they are on display.

    • @DoubleSsoccer
      @DoubleSsoccer Před rokem +21

      It really depends on your preferance, some people like how complicated it is but this isn't the majority

    • @hartiwanger9176
      @hartiwanger9176 Před rokem +79

      Soccer is a poor man's sport. That's why it's so popular

    • @thierryhenry674
      @thierryhenry674 Před 11 měsíci +59

      Football (soccer) tactics is very complex, it’s just that you don’t know about it.

    • @justdoit3928
      @justdoit3928 Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@hartiwanger9176 most of those American watch the game in their mom basement, highly doubt that NFL are rich man sport.

    • @hartiwanger9176
      @hartiwanger9176 Před 11 měsíci +26

      @@justdoit3928 So you need to be rich to watch it? Damm, you can't that glib.

  • @SKRlNIA
    @SKRlNIA Před 4 měsíci +7

    Not to mention in Europe, the NFL is battling against Cricket, Rugby, or any other minor sport out there, even the game of Darts is becoming more popular in the UK.

    • @tyreseneal
      @tyreseneal Před 4 měsíci

      😂 Give NFL 🏈 A chance it's not that bad! It's very entertaining!

    • @261i7
      @261i7 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@tyreseneal American football is so boring. There's nothing happening it's just ads 😂

    • @AmbushRL.
      @AmbushRL. Před 7 dny

      And Basketball in Eastern Europe

  • @Turtlefast235
    @Turtlefast235 Před 11 měsíci +50

    The video mentions only 2, TWO countries in the whole of Europe where Throwball have had some sort of interest, based on hight atendance to a few NFL games (with a good portion of those in the terraces surely American expats), in fact, it only mentions London as the only British city where the sport has some kind of interest. It is obvious that the NFL would try to push down our throats the narrative that the sport is making huge inroads in their popularity in the continent, when the reality is that only has gathered some "cult" following in Germany. To put in perspective the popularity of the American sport globally, the 2023 Super Bowl averaged 113 million viewers, but only an estimated 15% of that audience was outside North America, that means only around 17 million viewers cared for that game worldwide! meanwhile the Qatar 2022 World Cup final had 1.5 BILLION global viewers.... I don't think that Throwball will ever be anything but a distraction to sports fans outside the USA.

    • @judas_bdb8681
      @judas_bdb8681 Před 8 měsíci +15

      I'm pretty sure a standard El Clásico gets more views than that or at least close

    • @saii_01
      @saii_01 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I think the correct way to compare the viewership would be to compare it with champions League finals or with other sports something like Wimbledon finals. World Cup happens once in 4 years so that's a bad analogy

    • @danielribeiro9179
      @danielribeiro9179 Před 8 měsíci +12

      ​@@saii_01the champions league final has 4x more viewers that the superbowl. It averages 400 million viewers. Even a standard El classico nowadays (not even talking the Ronaldo Messi era) can average more viewers than the superbowl. You don't understand the size of football worldwide.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@danielribeiro9179 actually not true. champions league final has about 250M viewers, whereass the superbowl has 360M

    • @jeanlundi2141
      @jeanlundi2141 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah I don't even get this video.If anything football (MLS) is becoming way bigger in the US in the past 15 years.

  • @AETERNVS
    @AETERNVS Před rokem +883

    The NFL's overseas appeal is similar to WWE's, with one big difference: the WWE is a Circus, one that can travel all over the world with their shows and attract a great amount of die-hard fans (in India, for example). The NFL is a sports league, and while adopting the same method used by WWE, it has the complexity of the teams: it's the US Nation's Football Championship. And while expanding and creating events in Europe is the best idea, it's almost impossible for the NFL to take-over Europe. So.. they'll always be the great sport of the USA, and that's what ultimately sells, and will forever sell.

    • @Mdksupreme1
      @Mdksupreme1 Před rokem +71

      Nfl has nothing close to the appeal of wwe, no one watches the nfl cus there's no skill involved and there's constant stoppages, it's just fat dudes slamming into each other repeatedly, no one watches hand egg cus it's lame

    • @imnotlazy
      @imnotlazy Před rokem +24

      @@Mdksupreme1 its true its confusing and boring. Now I know why they are so big on bring entertainment to the sport😅

    • @cum537
      @cum537 Před rokem +3

      @@imnotlazy that's your opinion bruh

    • @imnotlazy
      @imnotlazy Před rokem

      @@cum537 of course it's my opinion😂

    • @bkak2245
      @bkak2245 Před rokem +61

      @@Mdksupreme1 horrible logic, its like someone saying "⚽️ is just guys chasing around a ball and putting it in a net"

  • @chemical9999
    @chemical9999 Před rokem +951

    I still don't understand how Donald Trump contributed to this

    • @jamavra
      @jamavra Před rokem +324

      i think he used it as more of clickbait :p

    • @mihaigrigoras7956
      @mihaigrigoras7956 Před rokem +32

      @@jamavra Bingo

    • @darkestknightbrightestlich4690
      @darkestknightbrightestlich4690 Před rokem +45

      Naming rights

    • @chemical9999
      @chemical9999 Před rokem +58

      @@darkestknightbrightestlich4690 he only blocked the name. So they went for different name. He didn't do anything to help them

    • @liamo8932
      @liamo8932 Před rokem +47

      Donald Trump is America and America is Donald Trump. Simples

  • @darkmatter6714
    @darkmatter6714 Před 11 měsíci +39

    Grown men running around in motorcycle helmets, shoulder pads and ballet tights was never going to be taken seriously outside of the US. But in Germany - a country where David Hasslehoff is considered as a serious pop star - it has a chance.

    • @felipeb.9321
      @felipeb.9321 Před 9 měsíci +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @ayla8345
      @ayla8345 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Maybe it has a chance with the older generation of Germany, but definitely not Gen Z

    • @voxdraconia4035
      @voxdraconia4035 Před 7 měsíci +1

      A country where grown men stand around to hit a ball with a paddle akin to a posh version of Baseball might be more suited to adopt Former Colony Football though ...

    • @meerahcledomestictv9908
      @meerahcledomestictv9908 Před 6 měsíci

      😂

  • @victoriavs_.
    @victoriavs_. Před 7 měsíci +4

    The only one american (from united states) sport that feels like football is baseball. Their fans have that kind of passion and nostalgia that football (worldwide) brings.

  • @demolitionplayz6569
    @demolitionplayz6569 Před rokem +530

    As a non American I understand the game as “Big Men Run with a oval shaped ball to the end of the field” that’s it

    • @pvtmcfinger3770
      @pvtmcfinger3770 Před rokem +34

      Big guys don't run with the ball. Smaller guys do. Big guys block to protect their quarterback (the guy who throws the ball), while the "small guys" (in comparison to the big guys) need to catch it and be quick with it to get as far as they can.

    • @getuliogabriel3522
      @getuliogabriel3522 Před rokem +132

      @@pvtmcfinger3770 so it is "Small Men run with a oval shaped ball to the end of the field"?

    • @pvtmcfinger3770
      @pvtmcfinger3770 Před rokem +41

      @@getuliogabriel3522 not really small guys, they're pretty tall, but they seem small in comparison to the linemen. However, football is a bit more complicated in comparison to soccer to be defined in one sentence. Guys kicking a round ball towards the goal can more or less sum up soccer, meanwhile football doesn't mean just running the ball, you can also throw it, catch it, kick it, or if you're playing defense, stop the runner, prevent a catch, intercept the ball or score defensive points.

    • @Niimerium
      @Niimerium Před rokem +18

      @@pvtmcfinger3770 lol no

    • @dchegu
      @dchegu Před rokem +43

      Tho that describe rugby perfectly.

  • @macgp44
    @macgp44 Před rokem +178

    For American "tackle"' football to become a significant part of European sports culture there would need to be a substantial percentage of the players to be European, which means starting young on local teams at age 10, 11 or 12. I don't foresee that happening. The cost of the necessary equipment is considerable and the rules of the game are very complicated. In fact, it is decreasing in popularity as a sport for kids in the USA, as more and more American parents don't let their sons to play, since it has been well documented over the last decade that serious life-changing brain damage results from the collisions. Flag football eliminates almost all of that problem, but it has zero popularity as a spectator sport, so that's not an option. Some Europeans like to watch American football, but it will never reach one-tenth of the popularity of soccer football.

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Excellent point.
      Thanks for being honest.

    • @han6061
      @han6061 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes but in europe its free nothing in america is gonne be free like that

    • @lancem9665
      @lancem9665 Před 10 měsíci

      to become popular, the European should have to play, have a team to support in Europe and not in the USA

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 Před 10 měsíci

      @@han6061 Excellent point

    • @Soltain6
      @Soltain6 Před 10 měsíci

      Même avec ça c'est impossible

  • @matheuspazin9240
    @matheuspazin9240 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Ive been a fan of NFL in the past, but I cant stand anymore those commercials every 5 minutes, the 3h~3.5h per match, the insane ammount of rules and referees reviewing plays. It is a cool game, but it is hard to bring new people when you a offer a product 3h long that is hard to understand and with so many breaks.

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako Před 2 měsíci +3

    This is why I disagree when I heard about UCL being played in the US, It will fall like the NFL. UEFA should stop thinking the UCL is like the World Cup. Also you need 32 stadiums for all 32 teams in the competition to make home and away games makes sense. If you think about it, that'll be more expensive than hosting a World Cup.

  • @hoORizoN60
    @hoORizoN60 Před rokem +627

    I think another major problem is the difference in how leagues are run in Europe and the United States. Indeed the NFL, the NBA and the other American leagues are companies whose one and only goal is to make money. In Europe this is not the case, especially in France (where I come from, for other countries I do not know the exact laws). In fact, they are dependent on associations that are not allowed to make profits. Of course the money is there, but the primary goal of the European leagues is not the same. So we can't compare the money coming in from the NFL and other European leagues. For example in Europe the worst teams each year go to a worse league (which is dangerous from a business point of view, hence the fact that some clubs wanted to create a football superleague, which the fans do not did not accept). Europe favors the sporting side, the USA the money. (And this is reflected in the way games are played. For example, I really like basketball, but I can't watch the NBA anymore, the games are too long and there are too many games in regular seasons which are uninteresting. During an nba game there is too much down time for advertisements and therefore to make money. It's too long for me I'm bored, I feel like I'm waiting all the time to see the game. Same when I tried to watch the NFL: there were too many advertisements. If an American league tries to establish itself just to make money, it will not succeed even if it remains my opinion.

    • @imnotlazy
      @imnotlazy Před rokem +65

      Yeah I read somewhere that the NBA and I think the NFL also are classed as entertainment and not actually a sport. Hence why they spend so much on the business side of it and generating more money wherever possible. Hence why they're so much ads everywhere compared to like European sports.

    • @EPK123
      @EPK123 Před rokem +35

      Thats true, i tried to start watching nba the last year but all the publicity fed me up.

    • @cianog
      @cianog Před rokem +15

      I kind of disagree. Football in Europe is more capitalist than the U.S.

    • @EquaYonah
      @EquaYonah Před rokem +6

      @im not lazy You're thinking of the WWE. NBA and the NFL are 100% sports lol

    • @williamlembke7828
      @williamlembke7828 Před rokem +5

      I believe that many feel the same in America but are left with fewer options as the other leagues are so... Uneventful.
      A lot of sports that aren't American seem to me like they have a slow progress & smaller gains with lower possibilities for something crazy to happen, like chess, tennis, rugby, soccer. They're still fun to watch. You just need patience (Americans struggle with having patience)
      American football is jam packed with action because that's what the game is. Players can do more than just kick the ball, take it down field, pass it, or have it stolen like soccer, they can do all of that & more like running the ball, kicking it for points, change out players & position so you can run special plays. It's also exciting due to the recruiting efforts & the money they use to create competition & hyping games up as much as they can. The more action the more the fans will watch.
      As far as ads, everyone I know doesn't mind because you have your phone on hand to awnser messages you ignored while you watch a ball be thrown 50yds to be ran for a touchdown(goal). Plus snack runs, restroom breaks.
      American sports are presented differently to fans than European sports.

  • @jakestar121
    @jakestar121 Před rokem +458

    It’s kind of dumb how the two versions of football are treated as direct competitors when they’re completely different sports altogether. Many fans just watch both lol

    • @Mixcoatl
      @Mixcoatl Před rokem +63

      But most people can't afford to go to games for both, they can't afford to buy jerseys for both, and they only have so much free time, meaning they'll inevitably have to make a choice. "lol just watch both" isn't a solution.

    • @michaelkaine9452
      @michaelkaine9452 Před rokem +68

      @@Mixcoatl they would have a favorite and then watch another sport. I bet 90% of nfl fans in Germany support their football(soccer) club 1st then their nfl team. That’s what American sports fans usually do with their sports.

    • @tobiogunsina8426
      @tobiogunsina8426 Před rokem +22

      @@Mixcoatl for people in America it’s significantly easier to watch both as premier league and European games are on from 6:00 to 12:30 in the morning as opposed to 1 past midnight for nfl Europe lovers

    • @jakestar121
      @jakestar121 Před rokem +19

      @@Mixcoatl over in North America (both US and Canada) the majority of sports watchers or fans watch at least two sports or at least follow what’s going on by looking at the scores, news, betting and playing in fantasy leagues. For a lot of cities, it’s common to see support for 4 of the major sports teams representing said city (like a shared community even if for some fans they prefer one sport more than the other). In terms of scheduling conflicts it’s rare, as the NFL mostly plays during just Sunday and it’s after all the League matches are finished in the morning for us. There’s no conflicts at all for UCL matches as those games are on Tuesdays and Wednesdays usually. A lot of these fans in North America are also very much “working class” with busy lives and yet they are able to somehow find the time to watch teams like the Knicks, Giants and Yankees play; so I don’t really buy your argument about “most people don’t have the time and money to follow two sports”. If someone’s enough of a fan, they will find a way to make time and follow the sports they love

    • @christianarigoni2124
      @christianarigoni2124 Před rokem +6

      I guess the competitor of american football is Rugby in France , UK and Italy.

  • @_Wombat
    @_Wombat Před 11 měsíci +6

    It is interesting to watch Americans grapple with the realization that for once, their world view that the USA is always the biggest and the bestest, is not true.
    I actually think the more interesting question here is whether "soccer" can make a dent in America. With Messi now in the MLS, and the next World Cup in the US, I genuinely think proper football could start to make a name for itself in the USA.
    Imagine a US national team that could actually compete at a World Cup, that would be awesome.

  • @98bpd44
    @98bpd44 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Comments here summarise really well the differences between football and american football, but there's one thing that I haven't seen nobody mention: football has more dynamism and that helps the viewer to always expect something different.
    I'm far from being a expert in american football, but excluding spectacular counter-attack runs that often are in those greatest sports moments videos, it seems that there's always a build up to the touchdown. I mean, a team gets the ball, then progress some yards, then the game stops. Then they gain some yards again... and there is an AD. So you know that your team is going to attack or defend, it feels more like a "phase game".
    In football, sometimes teams are winning and losing the ball in the midfield a lot, but then someone finds a great pass and, in seconds, suddenly your team have a great opportunity to score. Yesterday I was watching my team play, we were losing 1-0 away and trying to attack, but failing to shoot on target (our attack is shit tbf 😅), but our midfielder suddenly dribbled wonderfully, entered the area and got himself a penalty kick - we've scored. That can also happen in american football, but the fact that the game has less stoppages helps a lot.

  • @sebastiansanchezn1650
    @sebastiansanchezn1650 Před rokem +137

    The problem is different. Europe has Rugby: Rugby is a fast paced sport, with contact, runs, tackles and decision making, while avoiding 10' ads break every 2" of play. American Football is just a bad version of Rugby and it's made to sell ads. No one that wants to sit 4 hours to watch ads will eventually get the time to watch a full game.

    • @shaunigothictv1003
      @shaunigothictv1003 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Excellent point

    • @benhavasy4538
      @benhavasy4538 Před 7 měsíci +5

      american football>ruby because it's just more organized in my personal opinion.

    • @Mz-st2fs
      @Mz-st2fs Před 7 měsíci +38

      @@benhavasy4538it’s not fun to watch they play for less than 10 sec and then you have to wait 60 sec for them to make another play. Boring af

    • @ankansenapati3600
      @ankansenapati3600 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​​@@Mz-st2fsnfl has the best athletes in the world 6'5 250lb jacked is the norm

    • @benhavasy4538
      @benhavasy4538 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@Mz-st2fs just get a longer attention span

  • @angelrobles7201
    @angelrobles7201 Před rokem +121

    The Trump effect wasn't just the name rights.
    This goes deeper. Between 1983 and 1985, there was a spring league, the USFL.
    Its sporting side was relatively good, but its financial side wasn't. They aimed to improve it by forcing a merger with the NFL, with two actions for it.
    -Moving the 1986 season to autumn, to compete directly with the NFL.
    -Filling an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL.
    The USFL won the lawsuit, and were awarded compensation... $1 (which tripled to $3 under antitrust laws, and then went to $3.76 thanks to interests).
    The lawsuit costs (minus that "hefty" amouny of compensation) drove the league into folding. The amount spent by the league at that point were over $163 million, and they needed to win $300 million via the lawsuit to survive.
    Now, the driving force behind this strategy was the majority owner of the New Jersey Generals, none other than Donald Trump.
    Basically, his actions helped the NFL to have no competition and free slots in the spring for their International League project.
    By the way, legend says that the $3.76 check is yet to be cashed.

    • @SkreltNL
      @SkreltNL Před rokem +1

      It is MSM who plays 1 side against another
      People with money want to brand football "soccer"
      TV shows, Anime, Amercian MSM, you name it
      "soccer" vs Football is created to play 1 faction against another
      And Australian Football wants a word to, if American football is just "FOOTBALL OMG!"

    • @StylistecS
      @StylistecS Před 11 měsíci +1

      Facts. I bet if the USFL kept that scheduled I think it would have had a great chance to win out. It would have changed the entire landscape of American sports.

  • @FlorinArjocu
    @FlorinArjocu Před 8 měsíci +5

    Funny to see this while in France there's the Rugby World Championship and everywhere in town there are signs, ads, all sorts of things related to it. Probably more people in this mid-sized town watch rugby than people in France watch American football.

    • @Michael-uu7zq
      @Michael-uu7zq Před 7 měsíci +1

      Probably? It’s a definitely. The nfl don’t stream their game internationally, for someone outside of the USA, they would have to stream it. Often time illegally.

    • @Special_ed1
      @Special_ed1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Michael-uu7zq not illegally you you just need to get a subscription to some tv channel

  • @Energyflash1979
    @Energyflash1979 Před 11 měsíci +10

    American football has to make it entertaining by accompanying it with many other attractions throughout it's broadcast whereas football is a much better spectator sport just on its own. Stoppages and substitutions shouldn't be used for any changes possible within a match. Having players who can adapt to the changes is also a spectacle the fans want to see.

  • @samuraijack0876
    @samuraijack0876 Před rokem +28

    One is a regional sport. The other is a global sport. Not comparable.

    • @timwiesler6365
      @timwiesler6365 Před rokem

      Yet

    • @AntonioAio
      @AntonioAio Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@timwiesler6365 never.

    • @timwiesler6365
      @timwiesler6365 Před 10 měsíci

      @@AntonioAio How do you know that? It's played in Asia and Australia, there's a new European league etc. It's getting bigger

    • @AntonioAio
      @AntonioAio Před 10 měsíci

      @@timwiesler6365 Come on, man😆
      YOU are living in a bubble, and its time to get out of it ;)

    • @timwiesler6365
      @timwiesler6365 Před 10 měsíci

      @@AntonioAio How am I living in a bubble?

  • @Vinsmoke_Zine
    @Vinsmoke_Zine Před rokem +37

    Congratulation for the 600K Subscribers !

  • @Ididntplayball
    @Ididntplayball Před 2 měsíci +2

    “Why did a sport league, for a sport only millionaires & people who don’t care about getting crushed & beaten up every game can actually play, which games are 2hrs of ads + 1hr of actual play, failed in a market where an easy-to-play-and-watch, everyone-knows-about-it, multiple-league sport reign?
    What a confusing mystery!!”

  • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
    @DigitalNomadOnFIRE Před 8 měsíci +2

    London is a huge city, it can easily absorb an NFL franchise, many NFL matches have been played there and they always sell out (either Twickenham or Wembley, both 80k seater stadiums).
    NFL is a tiny global sport however with no international matches, unlike Cricket, Rugby or Football; other major sports in London.

  • @ilkkak3065
    @ilkkak3065 Před rokem +192

    American football biggest issue is its called football but mostly played by hands...😅

    • @jolteddd1388
      @jolteddd1388 Před rokem +13

      english football biggest issue is them changing the name of the sport and getting mad when someone calls it what they changed it to

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Před 11 měsíci +47

      ​@@jolteddd1388 ok but they use their feet and balls?

    • @janthecoo4964
      @janthecoo4964 Před 11 měsíci +34

      tbf, originally football just meant 'ball sport on foot'. rugby is also called football after all.
      nah, who am i kidding, americans are weird

    • @NmpK24
      @NmpK24 Před 11 měsíci +27

      @@jolteddd1388 We didnt change the name, its always been called Football in England and the world for that matter (mostly). Thats why clubs use the initials FC or why FIFA is not called 'FISA'. Yes it is possible to have two or more words to describe the same thing, but it doesn't mean you have to use all of them. And btw, American Football gets its name because the ball is one foot long? If thats not a silly reason then what is?

    • @thezackast2752
      @thezackast2752 Před 11 měsíci +5

      American football gets its name from being a part of the general genre of 'football'. Association football is the most common, and is actually a bit of an odd one out with how it is played. Most forms allow the ball (normally egg/oval shaped) to be carried, kicked, or thrown. The genre comes from mob football, which has evolved into all the different types.

  • @frozello14
    @frozello14 Před rokem +100

    I still don't get how some people don't understand that any sport league will do better, if player pool has more nationalities and not just 70% of one nationality as it's just easier to start to support some team, if you have "one from your country" playing there so you can start support that team and maybe get wiser and find out some other team you like later on.

    • @regalcartoon3952
      @regalcartoon3952 Před rokem

      Half the reason the NFL wants to expand is to get more nationalities and ethnicities into their league. But the European football fans keep shooting us down.

    • @Klopfer_
      @Klopfer_ Před rokem +2

      And a system where relegation can happen

    • @abelernestoflores-perez8765
      @abelernestoflores-perez8765 Před rokem +2

      Si pero eso muchas veces no fomenta que un país explote su potencial unas de las principales razones por las que mexico no puede mejorar en el fútbol (soccer) es por que nuestra liga está llena de extranjero y los equipos prefieren traer extranjeros y no jóvenes promesas mexicanas.

    • @benitocamelo1488
      @benitocamelo1488 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@abelernestoflores-perez8765 es cierto, las canteras están de adorno y el nivel de la liga ha bajado bastante en los últimos años. Cada vez a menos gente le interesa el futbol en México, por cierto.

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Před 10 měsíci

      I mean, it's in the US. We get behind whatever team is in our specific state

  • @OneTrueScotsman
    @OneTrueScotsman Před 11 měsíci +5

    It's a silly dream to imagine that US football will ever take off outside the states. It's seen as an American thing. Plus it's super commercial, which won't fly. Adverts every 5 minutes?
    I don't even like real football, but I know its biggest sport in the world, that's not going to be overtaken by anything else.

  • @bertugali
    @bertugali Před 11 měsíci +3

    No marketing is enough to overtake football when every single European kid goes out to play football from sunrise to sunset, then gets yelled at by his mother for sweating so much but does it again tomorrow.

  • @bharatavarsha10k
    @bharatavarsha10k Před rokem +24

    Woohooo 600K 🎉🎉🎉... Congrats AI, Long way to go! Also, another Quality sports biz video as usual❤️❤️❤️. I've started using few points in your videos to quote my future projects in sports, Thanks man❤️

  • @thisguyrighthere3
    @thisguyrighthere3 Před rokem +78

    this is the problem with American sports in in general. they focus more on things like elephants and cheerleaders than the actual sport

    • @QuantumNoir
      @QuantumNoir Před rokem

      Only NFL does that tbh.

    • @thisguyrighthere3
      @thisguyrighthere3 Před rokem +6

      @@QuantumNoir ok that might be true. maybe i shouldnt have said in general tho i remember that chick Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas singing a horrible song at a NBA game and other stuff like that

    • @QuantumNoir
      @QuantumNoir Před rokem +5

      @@thisguyrighthere3 NBA does get alot of celebrity endorsements. NFL throws off a very circus type vibe. Other US team sports are way more chill

    • @powerful1895
      @powerful1895 Před rokem

      @@thisguyrighthere3 these cheerleaders and funny shit is a fucking turn off

    • @InformerMaz
      @InformerMaz Před rokem +7

      Cheerleaders? Eh, it’s mostly for high school and college for football. In NFL, there are cheerleaders but it’s not super huge.
      I feel like with celebrities, it’s to bring more casual fans to tune in, but I wouldn’t say it’s a huge focus. Idk lol.

  • @maxscameraguy
    @maxscameraguy Před 11 měsíci +32

    My brother had a law professor who was one of the executives for the Barcelona Dragons. After the first season, he had a meeting with season ticket holders and one person suggested they stop having "meetings after every play" he was confused then the guy went on to describe a huddle.

    • @snt03
      @snt03 Před 11 měsíci +5

      that man went on to become chip kelly

  • @seastar-qw2qg
    @seastar-qw2qg Před 2 měsíci +3

    Went to watch superbowl for the first time ever. Saw the time was 4 hrs and it was already midnight in my country. Sighed and changed channel to put on 1hr 30 mins of premier league match. I felt good that night.

  • @syed_mamoon99
    @syed_mamoon99 Před rokem +283

    NFL's recent success could nearly be a case study on how to grow sports (relatively unknown to rest of the world) in new markets, like cricket, rugby and much more.

    • @torrinmedia3998
      @torrinmedia3998 Před rokem +50

      NFL hasn’t grown much in Europe tho. The World Cup Final 2022 had 1.5 billion viewers. The Super Bowl will never come close to that

    • @j4genius961
      @j4genius961 Před rokem +89

      @@torrinmedia3998 Jesus Christ, not everything has to be about European Football vs American football, we all know which one is bigger...And the fact that the world cup beat the superbowl doesn't negate OP's argument about the NFL growing either; here's a personal example to drive my point home: my younger brother has grown by nearly a foot last year, but he's still shorter than me since I'm 5 years older... Yet it doesn't mean that he hasn't grown at all, got it?

    • @reddevil5543
      @reddevil5543 Před rokem +52

      @@j4genius961 where has NFL grown though? I have lived in UK, Australia and Nepal for a while and it's not popular in any of these countries, in Nepal people don't even know American football is a different sport, while Australia has its own version of football, competing with soccer, cricket etc. And in UK people will laugh at the suggestion of someone watching NFL. I don't understand where it has really grown

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy Před rokem +3

      @@torrinmedia3998 part of it has to do with geography. The US is an ocean away from Europe which makes it hard for a sport to travel

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy Před rokem +30

      @@reddevil5543 Germany and Mexico

  • @theochanmanunited7815
    @theochanmanunited7815 Před rokem +35

    Football is the most popular one because of its nature:
    - Easy to setup a game, no need special uniform or tools. So anyone, anywhere, any condition, can play.
    - Million of small guys (same size as Messi, for example) can dream to play football in top level. This is not the same with American Football and basket ball. Therefore, it inspried more people to play football.

    • @henryjw15
      @henryjw15 Před rokem

      What your talking about, the Arizona cardinals Qb is toddler size.

    • @dxfifa
      @dxfifa Před rokem +6

      @@henryjw15 He is 5'10" 207 pounds. The premier league in England is known to be the most physical and one of the tallest top football leagues in the world. There are about 100 players in 20 teams in that league alone who are 5'9" or shorter.
      Messi 5'6"
      Maradona 5'5"
      Pele 5'8"
      3 generational best players who are GOAT contenders all 5'8" or under

    • @adanalyst6925
      @adanalyst6925 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@dxfifa that’s a good point. I’m an American and always liked baseball because there were more room for different sizes. But that’s a pro for Association Fb as well. Never liked how basketball was just based on how tall you happened to be

    • @tyronelorenzovalentio3414
      @tyronelorenzovalentio3414 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@dxfifathe tallest leagues in the world come from Netherlands
      Mate
      U mean physical league then yeah prem

    • @alexanderbertisch1006
      @alexanderbertisch1006 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@dxfifa the average american football player is way way way stronger than essentially any football player. never stars like messi, ronaldo, mbappe, neymar, benzema even get close to scratching a 220 lbs benchpress, theyre half the size of american football players. this gives the sport greater reach for smaller humans, but also makes it more accessible to players, no football player lifts weight for the sake of football, its probably even a hinderance. Football is a more technical game, when american football just feeds on freakish physicality.

  • @MindSurf248
    @MindSurf248 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I honestly think that 2 of the biggest barriers for American football are 1. The fact it gets called AMERICAN Football, and 2. The fact that unlike basketball it has a sport (Rugby) that is incredibly popular in alot of target countries, and is seen as filling a similar Niche.
    And yer it will never overtake proper football as the global sport, not in this century.

  • @6ENN
    @6ENN Před 2 měsíci +2

    You're right one of the biggest problems is that american football could be difficult to understand, its like a more complex rugby sort of. I feel like flag football, especially at the olympics, could really help with that

  • @QuantumNoir
    @QuantumNoir Před rokem +187

    Dang! Crazy interesting. I'm American. I'm not a fan of NFL by any means but I casually keep up with updates out of curiosity and people around me. NFL is still super popular but I see it as stabilizing. I see basketball moving up incrementally and soccer jumping upward.

    • @EquaYonah
      @EquaYonah Před rokem +10

      NFL isn't stabilizing anytime soon. This is probably the most lucrative it's ever been lol. And now CZcams is gonna be streaming the NFL package instead of an old school TV provider. Dunno when the bubble bursts but it's not anytime soon. I mean, 80 of the top 100 most watched TV programs in the USA was NFL lol. That's ridiculous 😂

    • @QuantumNoir
      @QuantumNoir Před rokem +10

      @@EquaYonah Financials are a whole different beast bro. On the ground floor, I see zero growth. It's already at a very high level. Some diehards are old and I see maybe just enough youth to cover those losses. I dont see spectator growth. Commercials, demographics, other sports and interests play a factor. I always see football being number 1. I can see basketball closing the gap much more. I see soccer skyrocketing to an eventual 3rd position, a solid step behind basketball. Football already captured the peak that it was gonna capture. Surely it will generate more $ just like other leagues too. MLS is still in it's beginnings and it's already the 10th richest sports league on Earth. MLS is also behind a paywall and only the 3rd watched soccer league in the US. 🇺🇸⚽️🔜⬆️⬆️⬆️

    • @juice8431
      @juice8431 Před rokem +4

      me too, I am not all that interested in football but I absolutely love everything around it. Super Bowl parties, the live concerts I barely give a frick about the actual game itself 😂😂😂

    • @SeanDaNerd
      @SeanDaNerd Před rokem +1

      There are more and more casual hoopers as time goes by too. And soccer is growing bit by bit. I remember when I started high school, no one gave a crap about soccer. By the time I graduated (which is almost a decade ago) most of the male faculty and maybe 10% more students all started liking and respecting soccer.
      And we’ll keep calling it soccer in the US. It’s just easier when you have multiple sports called football.

    • @real_mingolas
      @real_mingolas Před rokem +2

      ​​@@tarjeihs That's true, NFL is unheard outside of USA. Me and most of the people i know, and i'm sure most of the people in my country can't even name a single american football player. I just learned through the comments 🤣 that NFL doesn't have clubs, they have "franchises" whatever that means haha.

  • @tomosprice8136
    @tomosprice8136 Před rokem +46

    Here in Wales American Football will never rival football or rugby. Rugby is well established here as our traditional national sport and American Football is too similar that it will never become a serious rival

    • @Salibascored
      @Salibascored Před rokem +2

      Yes, but Wales is still good in Football, with Stars like Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsay

    • @Milo_751
      @Milo_751 Před rokem +1

      @@Salibascored bales retired and Ramsay is only known for playing arsenal and juventus and his goals killing celebs

    • @sirwadsontoast5928
      @sirwadsontoast5928 Před rokem

      I mean multiple sports can still succeed. NBA, Baseball Hockey, MLS. Don't rival the NFL in the United States, but they're still able to succeed.

    • @tomosprice8136
      @tomosprice8136 Před rokem

      @@sirwadsontoast5928 US has 100x more people than Wales so more room for multiple sports. We only really have enough people for 2 sports and those are football and rugby

    • @sirwadsontoast5928
      @sirwadsontoast5928 Před rokem

      @@tomosprice8136 true that's a good point.

  • @marcus7392
    @marcus7392 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Their biggest problem is that it's so boring. Game interruptions all the time, commercials, switching from offense to defense. There's also no tension in the NFL since no one can get relegated, teams can relocate, and there's a playoff system that leaves things to chance.

    • @r.o.b8728
      @r.o.b8728 Před 7 měsíci

      Name a single time
      where a soccer team has gone from the 3rd division to the 1st
      and then you might actually have a point

    • @marcus7392
      @marcus7392 Před 7 měsíci

      @@r.o.b8728 what’s your point? You have something to lose in the 1st division and you definitely have something to win in the other divisions. Many teams go up and down all the time.
      But ok. Glasgow rangers, Brighton & Hove Albion FC, Sunderland relegated a couple of leagues.

    • @r.o.b8728
      @r.o.b8728 Před 7 měsíci

      @@marcus7392 My point is
      that the team that wins in soccer is the teams with the most money
      while in the nfl
      everyone has a chance

    • @marcus7392
      @marcus7392 Před 7 měsíci

      @@r.o.b8728 let’s agree to disagree. I will keep passion for my football team and you for your American football team.

    • @r.o.b8728
      @r.o.b8728 Před 7 měsíci

      @@marcus7392 we were disagreeing with that?
      i thought we were just having a friendly discussion
      i don't hate soccer i just don't find enjoyment in watching it like i do with football
      if you enjoy watching soccer rather than football then go for it
      don't let someone else take that away from you

  • @doctorstainy
    @doctorstainy Před 11 měsíci +19

    I read that the actual time for when the ball was in play in a superbowl was like 12 minutes, thats crazy when the whole thing last like 6 hours. Funny when you hear a nfl fan diss soccer by saying nothing happens just a bunch of passes for 90 minutes, meanwhile nfl is apparently just a bunch of commercial breaks and waiting for players to stand in a line facing eachother.

    • @233Hicks
      @233Hicks Před 8 měsíci

      that's... really grim. I thought it was bad with the EFL 2. It was something like 50 minutes in play out of 90 there.

    • @BobSmith-ql7fb
      @BobSmith-ql7fb Před 8 měsíci +2

      I understand that on paper this sounds miserable, but in practice it’s not that bad. When you know the tactics better, the lining up feels a lot less pointless. Since the team with the ball is essentially forced to be aggressive since you need to advance up the field to keep it, it builds anticipation for each play, and you’re forced to think tactics between downs. The commercials between drives do suck, but that’s why we have commercial-free channels that let you keep track of several games at once lol. Also in a big game or in the stadium, that tension of knowing your team needs to score or even just get a few yards to stay alive gets you through it. Feel free to shame any NFL fan that makes a dumb comment like that though, that’s a lazy take from people that don’t understand soccer. I think if Americans took the time to follow a team through promotion/relegation and if Europeans came for a college football game + tailgate or watched NFL Redzone with a bunch of us, we’d all understand each other a lot better.

  • @FCTOKYOARG
    @FCTOKYOARG Před rokem +5

    103 million people watch the last super bowl
    4 billion people watch the last world cup final between argentina and france.
    American eggball can't compete

    • @FCTOKYOARG
      @FCTOKYOARG Před rokem

      @@fernandom572 you are comparing that to 4 billion people, there are 8 billion people on the planet, half of then watched the world cup. But us american keep claiming that "superbowl is better".. Nothing personal bud, but can't tolerante that a sport and tournament only dispute in one country can be "a world tournament".
      The video stated that eggball slowly but surely would compete against real football for global sport. But that won't be happening unless you open your sport to the rest of the world, which won't be happening neither

  • @parmentier7457
    @parmentier7457 Před rokem +58

    I am Dutch and I am from the 80's. In the 90's the American Football club Amsterdam Admirals was very popular. Amsterdam and the German clubs were the only ones left in the Football Europa League. But in the 1990s, the NBA was more popular in the Netherlands, the era of Michael Jordan. Myself and most of my classmates often wore NBA basketball jerseys and caps. In addition, hip-hop music also became more popular and they often wore basketball clothing in video clips. In the late 1990s, European football became more popular again in the Netherlands, partly because AFC Ajax won everything in the world.

    • @newprofilesowhat1339
      @newprofilesowhat1339 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I remember playing against Amsterdam Crusaders in a Euro Bowl qualifier in the late 80s....

    • @Ivovify
      @Ivovify Před 11 měsíci +4

      Dit is erg eenzijdig geschreven. Jouw omgeving = niet heel Nederland.

    • @SpawnBootcamp
      @SpawnBootcamp Před 8 měsíci

      Boeruhhh!@@Ivovify

  • @Meban101
    @Meban101 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I mainly only hear and see american football, baseball and basketball in america and nowhere else in the world.
    But football is worldwide. Even the smallest country in the world appreciate the sport.

    • @HoudiniGameArtist
      @HoudiniGameArtist Před 7 měsíci

      Latin America and east Asia play baseball. Europe plays basketball. And Canadians love American football.

    • @gannielukks1811
      @gannielukks1811 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Still, football is greater in most of these countries.

    • @AmbushRL.
      @AmbushRL. Před 7 dny

      @@HoudiniGameArtist In Canada it's Canadian football

    • @AmbushRL.
      @AmbushRL. Před 7 dny

      What do you mean baseball and basketball no where else in the world? Baseball is the biggest sport in japan and several countries in Latin America including Venezuela and Cuba. Basketball is massive in Eastern Europe and is the biggest sport in Lithuania.

  • @Amm17ar
    @Amm17ar Před 8 měsíci +3

    Would have been much better for them to establish a league there during the off-season. From March to August, a Euro league plays and acts as not just a feeder league. Its a seperate league, but they could have a unifying championship at some point during the cross-over period between the American season and the European season. Players would have more options for teams, talent could develop and they could prioritize international talent development and scouting in the Euro league. The NFL champions and the Euro champions play a game in around september sort of like a community shield or something. Dump some money into educating audiences on the sport, and let the thing grow naturally as opposed to creating a huge Americanized spectacle, dumping money into the wrong aspects and expecting immediate results.

  • @sebastianguerrajimenezlabo5377

    I mean, I live in Mexico and I love watching both american football and real football, i don't think they would need to compete for the viewers as anyone can watch them both

    • @henryjw15
      @henryjw15 Před rokem

      @Carlos Andrade can’t stand watching fake tigers, or pumas for that matter.

  • @bradguidry4717
    @bradguidry4717 Před rokem +37

    Although there are other reasons I think all the commercials breaks when watching American Football on TV is one of the big factors on it not getting as popular on the world stage. I think if people from other countries can experience the atmosphere of a game live for example the tailgating or the energy in the stands they may enjoy it a little bit more. Big College football games GameDay experiences are usually even bigger sometimes better than NFL.

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu Před 8 měsíci

      You get that energy from any sport you like. Go to a football (soccer for Americans) match between two important teams and it is crazy energetic. Damn, even some small teams will have that during the match. In all sports.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci

      People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few.
      Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game.
      It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport.
      It's fine if you don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

    • @deiniolbythynnwr926
      @deiniolbythynnwr926 Před 4 měsíci

      American football isn't more strategic because it stops all the time. That's not an objective measure. It is in fact far, far less strategic. @@epicow_1973

  • @ucfcgang3226
    @ucfcgang3226 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The problem is that there is just the NFL. Nothing else. Only about 30 teams and 1 competitions. The draft makes it even weirder

  • @tenshko5055
    @tenshko5055 Před 6 měsíci +2

    the reason why NFL will never surpass football is that even in poor streets in south america you can play football usin a can, and you will never replce its MAGIC

    • @r.o.b8728
      @r.o.b8728 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Ever heard of flag football?

  • @monablues5816
    @monablues5816 Před rokem +15

    The most professional CZcams channel and congratulations for the growth, soon to be 1 million subs

  • @fvw1187
    @fvw1187 Před rokem +21

    American football (as an American who played growing up) is a blood sport. I played free safety and would just take kids heads off and I thought it was fun. It really wasn’t at all. And I and many others will probably feel the effects as we get older. Whether it’s more or less entertaining is not the point. If I have kids they will play soccer.

    • @ardi1606
      @ardi1606 Před rokem +1

      American football is the soft version of Rugby.

    • @fvw1187
      @fvw1187 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @Ardi94 idk about that. In football leading with your head to force a fumble or otherwise rattle the opponent is encouraged. Rugby is definitely harsh but the pads in football I think encourage even more dangerous play than rugby could even make possible. Offensive linemen especially.

    • @thomasticehurst7707
      @thomasticehurst7707 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@ardi1606 Rugby has lots of restrictions to what counts as a legal tackle, Football does not have nearly as many,
      Look up a football tackle/hit compilation vs rugby, rugby players go for what looks like a wrestling take down, while football players will try to run through the other guy. This isn't a good thing about football either, Football is dangerouse and not in the cool tough way, but more like many people die from playing it every year and that doesn't take into account cte.
      My kids can play rugby,soccer,basketball even mma or boxing but they won't touch football and many NFL players say the same thing.

    • @ardi1606
      @ardi1606 Před 11 měsíci

      @@thomasticehurst7707 You have no idea about rugby. Have you seen Rugby injuries? Rugby is the sport with the most death rate among its players with 4.6 deaths per 100,000 players vs American Football's 1.0. Most are coming from head injuries. It's more deadly than American football.

    • @ardi1606
      @ardi1606 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@fvw1187 Rugby is 4 times deadlier than American Football. 4.6 catastrophic injuries for every 100,000 players vs Rugby 1.0 is not a joke. Those protective pads and their mother's tights sure protected them. They could even survive a c4 explosion with those tampons all over their bodies. Lmao

  • @july9566
    @july9566 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The nfl is doing really good in Mexico . So many Mexicans are coming back to Mexico and they’re taking their teams with them . Back in the day it was just cowboys and 49s fans , now all teams are here .

  • @ryooo785
    @ryooo785 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The NFL was actually so much better when people only referred to it as " American Football" and not anything else.

  • @thelyingwhale8414
    @thelyingwhale8414 Před rokem +15

    I fucking love to watch a sports game where I spend more of 50% the time with waiting

  • @moloko5
    @moloko5 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The US has 5 sports. Soccer is certainly a big sport for viewership even if the league is second rate. Most fans follow more than one, even if most don't follow all 5 closely. Australia and the UK both have multiple sports. Not sure why fans in countries who only like football are so adamant that they couldn't actually begin to follow a second sport without taking away from their favorite, but it's a common sentiment.

  • @sos.gamers
    @sos.gamers Před 8 měsíci +2

    I never met any person in the world who likes NFL, not in South America / Europe / Asia....

  • @vicvicking1990
    @vicvicking1990 Před rokem +33

    Another reason no western european country watchs NFL is Rugby.
    Its too similar for unfamiliar people and Rugby is big in the 6 nations countries.
    Plus there really is no AF world cup, and its easier to bring people in if they root for their country rather than a club

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy Před rokem +5

      Rugby is big in Germany I think and they seem to like football

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 Před rokem

      ​@@MustacheDLuffy Yea it could overtake Rugby it needs to get in people heads with a trick I feel like American Football 🏈 can overtake Rugby in Germany

    • @SuperAnimeking100
      @SuperAnimeking100 Před rokem +5

      Isn't American Football derived from Rugby and that's how it got its name?

    • @yannick245
      @yannick245 Před rokem +3

      @@MustacheDLuffy I'm from Heidelberg, Germany. Besides Hanover it's basically the only German city where rugby plays a role. They once made up the whole first league.
      Now the first league is made up of two divisions. North and South.
      The biggest rugby clubs in Heidelberg are even rowing clubs first. Sounds funny when there's a rugby match between the _"Heidelberg Rowing Society"_ vs. the _"Heidelberg Rowing Club"._
      It's because most of them go back to the university of Heidelberg and rowing was a thing before rugby.

    • @williamlembke7828
      @williamlembke7828 Před rokem +1

      No. They have similarities but in the end they are very different. Rugby has 15 players on the field & once you substitute you can't go back in, American Football has 11 players on the field & can substitute between each play/try.
      There is a lot more. I watch Rugby as well as American Football. My sister knows American Football & played soccer her whole life & Rugby in college & said that American foot ball & rugby are similar, but totally different.

  • @dylanparker130
    @dylanparker130 Před rokem +39

    Love AI videos! It's a crazy sport though, isn't it?
    I've always seen it as "Rugby with protective pads", but those pads seem to make it more dangerous than rugby as the American Football players aren't so careful about how they tackle each other. Because rugby players don't wear pads, everyone is more conscious that they need to stay away from the head / neck when tackling.

    • @ronkihini
      @ronkihini Před rokem +10

      Bruh, when I discovered this sport 2 years ago, I was impressed that rugby was evolving in other countries due to the fact that they were putting on Helmets and protective padding, just to be told (by the internet) that it isn't rugby, but another sport called American football. 😳 🤭

    • @imnotlazy
      @imnotlazy Před rokem +2

      @@ronkihini 😭😭

    • @emosijougavule2561
      @emosijougavule2561 Před rokem +1

      @@ronkihini Same here when I was a kid. Whenever I watched it on movies, I've called it rugby till my dad clarify me.

    • @bjorncopperside4572
      @bjorncopperside4572 Před rokem +2

      because they wear all the armor they hit way harder, wich is more fun to watch imo

    • @yoyo-xt1dy
      @yoyo-xt1dy Před rokem

      We wear pads because if you don't you could literally die

  • @juanbeltran7266
    @juanbeltran7266 Před 8 měsíci +1

    10 years ago I was big into watching college American football on Saturdays after I would watch some European football, usually Serie A or La Liga since that's what my cable provider gave me.I hated watching the NFL though. Too many commercials and it would take them for ever just to start a play. Meanwhile in college football they rarely had commercials and they would get back to playing as soon as a play happened.

  • @rapperodebarrio
    @rapperodebarrio Před 11 měsíci +1

    Im coming from a spanish town with an american military base in the 80s.
    My brother used to play Yall football for the Osos the Madrid!
    We have the first hiphop disco of spain they said.
    But then all that hype diluted somehow

  • @kirkwoodbharris5110
    @kirkwoodbharris5110 Před rokem +13

    I see rugby gaining more popularity than the NFL (American football fans might even show an interest in rugby, partially so they can be part of a global game - the NFL is and will always be a US-only game)

  • @radwanavised
    @radwanavised Před rokem +135

    Would love to hear next about the NBA's plans to conquer the world. They have started a league in Africa, played games in India, thinking of having a franchise in Mexico etc etc etc

    • @ATS1031
      @ATS1031 Před rokem +26

      nba is pretty boring tho until the play offs and so many players dive/flop all the time or are always complaining about playing too much

    • @williandalsoto806
      @williandalsoto806 Před rokem +71

      @@ATS1031 still much better than american football

    • @ATS1031
      @ATS1031 Před rokem +7

      @@williandalsoto806 idk as an american who loves futbol ive been enjoying american football a lot more recently than nba
      nba playoffs are lit tho

    • @TunaStrata
      @TunaStrata Před rokem +18

      Why should be nba dominated the world? Curious question. Nba is not fifa. Nba just national league. Did the rest of the world not allowed to make their own league?

    • @ATS1031
      @ATS1031 Před rokem +14

      @@TunaStrata im assuming he means basketball in general which is pretty popular in europe

  • @daviddavies3637
    @daviddavies3637 Před 9 měsíci

    The biggest problem as I see it is the timing of the Superbowl each year. The NFL are missing a huge opportunity by staging it as late in the day in the US as they are and, therefore, only catering to American audiences. A 3pm, or even 5pm, kick-off would allow them to capture more of the European market. I imagine part of the reasoning is the poor work/life balance in the US that they have to cater to. I tried to get into American Football in the 90s when it was shown on satellite TV. The rules aren't that complicated and I was able to pick them up quickly. They're less complicated than rugby and despite being Welsh, I still struggle to understand what's going on at times.

    • @kalmenbarkin5708
      @kalmenbarkin5708 Před 8 měsíci

      The SuperBowl does not work well with the American work schedule.
      In fact the day after the SuperBowl is the most common day all year for people to call out sick from work.
      People usually have Sunday off but still don’t like sitting down and watching a game until later in the day - so they can’t kick off until late afternoon on the west coast.
      A 3 PM Los Angeles kick off is 6 PM in New York. Anything much earlier than that and people in LA won’t tune in. Anything later than maybe 8 EST and people in NY will go to sleep before the end. Huge country has its downsides

  • @boatymcboatface7161
    @boatymcboatface7161 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The worst part about American Football is the commercial breaks. The CONSTANT commercial breaks. Even when you're at the stadium, you're still waiting for the commercial breaks to end. The older I get, the fewer games I watch because it's 15 minutes of action surrounded by 3 hours of commercials.

  • @Random_Guy518
    @Random_Guy518 Před rokem +42

    I also think that what makes it so hard for American sports leagues to appeal for the European casual fans is the timezones. For example a lot of people will choose their local basketball league over the NBA just because the games air at 7pm and not at 5am.
    I consider myself a passionate NHL fan but I still rarely watch games live because of the time difference. Only at the playoffs do I start watching multiple games a week and even that means probably 1-3 games.

    • @keal4399
      @keal4399 Před rokem +7

      I am from Mexico and I have many friends from South America who also have times similar to the USA, the problem is not that, the problem is that for many it is a boring and complex sport. Children from a young age can play football (the real one) in the streets because you only need a ball, you can play alone or with 1 friend, on the other hand, American football requires more people, understanding the rules, having a ball that nobody has and space , that's why nobody is interested and real football is practically a religion because of how simple it is

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Timezones and rugby, rugby already gives what nfl does and unlike nfl rugby teams have local players

    • @rich7447
      @rich7447 Před 11 měsíci

      I grew up in Canada, now live in the US and rarely watch NHL games because they are rarely broadcast on regular TV.

    • @estrafalario5612
      @estrafalario5612 Před 11 měsíci +1

      People watch Tennis, Formula 1 and the Asian Market is already big for the broadcasting of European football matches.
      No, the timezones aren't the problem. A sport being boring and unpractical to play is the problem

    • @smashyboi6887
      @smashyboi6887 Před 9 měsíci

      @@keal4399Tbf you only need two people to throw a football around. Plus all those requirements you described are not needed to have fun

  • @blaqve
    @blaqve Před rokem +52

    In relation to the rules I only understood them enough to explain to somebody else about a year or two ago, despite having first got interested in American Football almost 20 years ago. Just wasn't easy to hop on. And only recently found 2 or 3 other people who actually follow it. Currently am the only one in my part of the world (Malawi in Africa) I know who even play the video game Madden, the way other people played FIFA or NBA 2k. But I hope to introduce it in my community soon with flag football. Because full pads and helmets are not easy to come by.

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 Před rokem +3

      Yeah 👍 🏈 👏 Grow the game and Introduce more people to Flag Football 🏈

    • @tubbyidk1474
      @tubbyidk1474 Před rokem +5

      here in america, we play 2 hand touch at things like recess and recreational time. (2 hand touch - downed when someone touches you with both hands, all you need is a ball)

    • @kaypakaipa8559
      @kaypakaipa8559 Před rokem +1

      Im originally from Africa, lived in Uk and now in Canada, nfl is actually a great game to watch, but it is quite complex to understand. In Africa & Europe football is like a religion we play on the streets daily,
      Many things about NFL go against the norms of how people think about sport, all those adverts, time outs, complex rules, and the requirements to be a super athlete & equipment,
      The barrier to entry is high

    • @ubaydahhuq9056
      @ubaydahhuq9056 Před rokem

      yeah like soccer and basketball flag football is able to be played in a lot of places

    • @sirwadsontoast5928
      @sirwadsontoast5928 Před rokem +1

      You're absolutely correct. Flag 🏈 is usually the easiest way to introduce people to the sport of 🏈. Less rules, and less equipment.

  • @ramtinabadi
    @ramtinabadi Před 7 měsíci +1

    The problem was not just operational, branding, or the elephant. People just really love Football (soccer) and outside the US, I have never personally seen a single person who like the American Football

  • @CptFoupoudav
    @CptFoupoudav Před 7 měsíci +3

    I remember when I was something like 16-17 I heard that there was the final of the superbowl in the middle of the night on a monday, I had school but decided that I had to watch just so I knew what this sport was about.
    I had always seen it on films and thought it might be cool, so I stayed during the night, knowingly ruining my school day because of sleep deprivation but whatever, that's it, the game start, i'm all excited !
    And me the french kid who is used to watch football with only one pause after 45minutes I discover that in this us football the freakin game stops verry often, I was literraly enraged by it, so much so that I decided fuck this shit I'm not watching it any longer and went to sleep. I told the boys at school how disapointing the game was and what a waste it was to not sleep xD

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci +1

      The ads are there for strategizing. Im sorry you dont have an attention span.
      People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few.
      Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game.
      It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport.
      It's fine if you don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

    • @AmbushRL.
      @AmbushRL. Před 7 dny

      @@epicow_1973 What do you mean? First of all, strategy is just as much in play in association football as american football. Also, in american football the ball is only in play for like 20 minutes.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 7 dny

      @@AmbushRL. The strategy in the NFL is much higher than in Association football. The ball is in play for 20 minutes, because most of that time is spent deciding the perfect strategy and play. Its a series of planned plays, whilst Association football has a strategy, but the coaches cant communicate with their players, and there is no real playbook in Association football.
      Measurements, time, and plays are kept far more accurately in the NFL (and collegiate level) in comparison to Association football.

    • @AmbushRL.
      @AmbushRL. Před 6 dny

      @@epicow_1973 Coaches do communicate from the sidelines.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 dny

      @@AmbushRL. Sure, but do they communicate during the entire game via radio while giving play calls to every player to develop the optimal strategy?

  • @tibimatei19
    @tibimatei19 Před rokem +6

    The big difference between American Football and Football/Soccer are the complex rules: In American Football there are 288 pages of rules while Soccer has one basic concept all europeans knew since 3-4 years old: Kick a ball around with your feet, don't go out of bounds, and simply try to score

  • @BiteMe19781
    @BiteMe19781 Před 4 měsíci +2

    for europeans if we wanted to see a sport like NFL we would watch rugby with teams that are more culturally closer to us.

  • @s3rg10arg6
    @s3rg10arg6 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Soccer is so fun, simple and beautiful that anyone can play it, you only need a ball, you can even play alone by juggling or against a wall, the limit is set by yourself.

  • @triggerfinger7831
    @triggerfinger7831 Před rokem +30

    If I were to like American football, I think I'd love rugby first. I mean the difference between them that I noticed (with my limited knowledge about both sports) is that one can throw the ball forward while the other one cannot.

    • @crazydrummer181
      @crazydrummer181 Před 11 měsíci +3

      The tackling is vastly different as well.

    • @farmerash
      @farmerash Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@crazydrummer181 For me it seems normal that tackling would be different when in one sport you wear about 10 kg of extra protective equipment.

    • @yungzooma3650
      @yungzooma3650 Před 7 měsíci +1

      lots of big differences between the two sports, the misconception that the only difference is the forward pass and pads is one reason football is hard to market in rugby nations and rugby in America.

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 Před 6 měsíci +2

      People in the US like American football, because its more strategic than association football. And that's objectively true. The standard game of association football is 90 minutes, Whilst the standard game of American football is about 3 hours. Those commercial breaks aren't just "To make the NFL money" Their primary purpose is to provide time for both teams to swap rosters, strategize, and eventually turnover. There's longer and more timeouts in American football, More ways of scoring, And a generally ranked the most technologically advanced sport in the world. American football uses multiple algorithms from several sources like AWS, NFL, FOX, ESPN, and CBS SPORTS, to determine win chances, pass strategies, probabilities, and a whole load of other things. Lasers to figure out the downs, A much larger team of refs, and of course, more rules. Football generally has a much more diverse set of roles, like tight end, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback, safety, running back, and defensive back to name a few.
      Not to mention, American football also includes route running which adds several layers of complication to the already complicated game.
      It's not even a stretch to say that American football is the most complicated sport.
      It's fine if people don't like NFL, that's your opinion. Just like it's my opinion to say that i prefer NFL over association football.

    • @TheCidraque
      @TheCidraque Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@epicow_1973 Too bad is boring as hell

  • @hollandvw4250
    @hollandvw4250 Před rokem +14

    I don't see US football gaining enough popularity in Europe to compete with other popular and established team sports (basketball, handball, rugby in the British Isles and France, volleyball etc), let alone association football. They can gain a solid fanbase over here, but the cultural differences are too large. Same way soccer will probably never grow huge in the US too
    Moreover, the biggest disadvantage that US football has compared to association football, rugby or basketball is that it is an expensive sport to play (having to buy all the equipment etc) meaning it is very hard for small teams to exist and for potential new players to be able to play as professional athletes. The exact contrary of soccer whose strength always was and still is its accessibility and its deep rooting in working-class communities and small clubs. The concept of "franchises" doesn't even exist in that sport.

    • @OzzyTheGiant
      @OzzyTheGiant Před 10 měsíci +7

      I think soccer will eventually get a huge traction in the US simply because of the fact that immigrant populations are starting to overtake the country, and therefore are willing to watch more soccer than anything.

    • @rezarfar
      @rezarfar Před 8 měsíci +1

      Soccer is becoming huge in the USA, particularly with the younger generation, even American sports analysts are predicting Soccer to overtake the NFL within 20 years, when the current generation of 20-30 year olds will be 40-50.

  • @gxguy2906
    @gxguy2906 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The only way the NFL makes that much money is mainly because of the commercials. If Soccer has that many commercials like that they would be making 2x or 5x what the NFL is making. I really hope that doesn't happen. Soccer is the only true sport left without much stoppage time.

  • @alession4090
    @alession4090 Před 8 měsíci +1

    No chance, the Brits would still prefer darts to that abomination, let alone Italy or Spain

  • @powerful1895
    @powerful1895 Před rokem +8

    The name football itself tarnished NFL popularity around the world.

  • @most5795
    @most5795 Před rokem +33

    great vid - idea for another video would be to touch on how American sports farms their talent through the universities how it created a culture for families to depend on their athletic youth members and put their energy into nursing the potential of large money in the future or higher education - how other countries dont use this method. how other countries use athletic academies separate from education. how they have relegated/promotion systems which help less gifted athletes who have the same passion and can produce similar levels of entertainment have fulfilling careers.

  • @drakonlegend4452
    @drakonlegend4452 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just want to say that NFL economical success is mostly due to the fact that there are like 500 ads every game

  • @NyoMeowter
    @NyoMeowter Před 7 měsíci +2

    Soccer = Rich people kicking a ball.
    Football = Rich people in armor waging war over a ball.

  • @artdigiweb
    @artdigiweb Před rokem +3

    You’re missing the importance of rugby on countries like France, England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland which is similar to American Football and more popular than it.

  • @waifubreaks1572
    @waifubreaks1572 Před rokem +20

    Baseball, basketball, and hockey have lots of international appeal and non-American stars. I think that's the biggest hurdle the NFL has. They don't have a Shohei Ohtani or Nikola Jokic.

    • @SpartanChief2277
      @SpartanChief2277 Před rokem

      or other non us countries and major reasons where it is popular, like soccer is global, baseball is latin america, caribean, japan and basketball is pretty popular in parts of mexico and europe. american footbal is just popular in USA mostly. Its like trying to get more cricket players and its only really popular in pakistan, india.

    • @gtaquizmaster
      @gtaquizmaster Před rokem +2

      @@SpartanChief2277 Cricket is popular in UK, Australia, 15 west indian countries, south africa, new zealand, bangladesh, sri lanka, afghanistan, zimbabwe, nepal as well, i'm talking being in atleast the top 3 in these countries

    • @SpartanChief2277
      @SpartanChief2277 Před rokem +1

      @gtaquizmaster who's mostly tuning in tho?

    • @gtaquizmaster
      @gtaquizmaster Před rokem +3

      @@SpartanChief2277 My man , that's how population works though, why's 95% of nba players from america?

    • @SpartanChief2277
      @SpartanChief2277 Před rokem +2

      @@gtaquizmaster you are literally proving my original point...