Exceptional Status Players | Where Are They Now?
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What is Bedard's potential? And do you think Shane Wright becomes a top line player?
What nobody talks about when it comes to Bedard... the Blackhawks do NOT have any forwards that would be top 6 in a playoff contending team. Crosby had Malkin. McDavid had Nugent-Hopkins and Eberle. Bedard is playing with essentially 3rd and 4th liners. Once this kid gets a few Bonifide top 3 and Top 6 forwards around him, he'll be putting up McDavid like numbers
I don’t know the roster but Taylor hall would be top 6 I feel like
athanasiou's super underrated, great player
@@joepasquini7396Hall was on Bostons 3rd line most of last season
No
@@joepasquini7396hall is injured like every other week he’s useless
great content as always rob always well written and delivered
Thanks for another quality video with great context & analysis. Best hockey channel out there & it isn’t even close. Keep grinding Rob, 100k is so close you deserve it!!
Feel like you should have ended on McKenna as he got the Savoie treatment and is tearing it up rn. Btw love your vids especially Prospects vids love the content keep it up🎉❤❤😊
Wassup Pasta mod lol
@@carterharris79 Hey dude
Everyone shut up Rob The Goat posted a video🗣️🗣️
I'm happy to get to see Misa here in Michigan and he's gotten on more of a role recently. Plus, we have to remember that he's still two years away from being drafted. He should continue to develop.
Only a year away. He is 2025 not 2026.
@@LETZGONHLdraftI'm including this season
@@derekjf4311 Okay
Unreal that in this company Misa putting up 19 points in 16 games is a "slow start."
Banger video as always, Rob. Loving seeing your 'Nucks flying this year, as is my dad the biggest Canucks fan in Alberta.
Bro, I’m so glad I found your channel. I love your insight and opinions. I love your passion for hockey. It’s appreciated, brother. Be easy, Rob! 👊🏻
Thanks brother, appreciate ya 🫡
Wrighter is in the right spot. But I still see a ton of upside for him in the long run. He needs his AHL time.
If he's not good enough to play in the league, he doesn't deserve a passing grade! eventually, if he improves, he can earn his C... but now. he is a fucking failure! the biggest (shortest) most pathetic failure in NHL history.
Idk. Think hell get to the league n be a good back end guy for depth and flashes of next level play at times but dont see him becoming solid 1st liner. Soemthin bout him jus never seemed like “it”. Cant pin why but he jus dont seem to have that dog in him.
Just to update Bedard's stats for the First Half of the Season (41 Games Played tomorrow) *he'll still be off
15 Goals
33 Points
Yeah epic video Rob never dissapoints🎉🎉😂😂😂
As a hawks fan who prayed for the last few years to get Bedard, I couldn’t be happier. Would love to see Shane Wright really progress too, love the Kraken so far and thinks he could be a sick along with Beniers over in Seattle
6:45 "He was a grown man in a child's body." I think you mean that the other way around. Lol.
Great video rob
1:19 holy shit that was a sick passing clinic!
Indeed. If only more guys learned to pass efficiently like that eh. That's the BEST hockey to watch ;)
Rob The Boss ! best hockey content in the league
How you gonna put wright over Joey Vel... one plays night in night out producing at the highest level while the other plays high level beer league ahl
I'm pretty sure Corey Perry was the first exceptional status player. Before the official adoption of the "exceptional status" rule players were allowed to play for their hometown team if deemed good enough. I think Perry was the player who played a couple games but I can't find anything on it.
I just got a Beniers Young guns for 20 on ebay, looked like it was in mint shape on camera. 🙈🙏
1:26 Halifax??? He played for Rimouski!
he's from Cole harbour ..
@@benjlar1902 Rimouski is not very far from Halifax... but he went to play for Rimouski... not for his home team.
@@ajpdeschenesit's still 800 km away 😅
@@ajpdeschenes he might be implying that he returned home. and yeah not far just your typical 750km commute
That golden eye music
You forgot Gavin Mckenna Connor Bedards cousin who is exceptional status in the whl plays for Medicine Hat Tigers
He didn’t get exceptional status
Regarding Misa being slated to go 1st in 2025, Corey Pronman from The Athletic recently (last week) put out a "way too early prospect rankings" and had Misa at 6th. I know they're not the be-all and end-all, but if he's not doing great this year and they already have him that low there's a decent chance he doesn't go first. Article title is "2025 NHL Draft top prospects: A way-too-early ranking of James Hagens, Porter Martone and more" (I'll reply to this with a link to the pay-walled article, just not sure if posts with links get auto-deleted)
1. James Hagens
2. Porter Martone
3. Roger McQueen
4. Logan Hensler
5. Matthew Schaefer
6. Michael Misa - "Misa has been very good in the OHL since being named an exceptional status player. As a prospect, his talent level is closer to that of Shane Wright than the very best exceptional-status players, though. Misa is a very strong skater and puck handler who can project to create at an NHL pace and be an asset offensively. He competes well enough and has good playmaking instincts. There is a lack of a wow factor in his game, even though there are a lot of positives."
Misa's very Similar to Shane Wright. Always played up with the older kids and dominated, but he wasn't head and shoulders above everyone else like McDavid, Crosby or even Tavares. At this point it's highly unlikely he goes first overall ahead of James Hagens, who looks to have a much higher ceiling. Although 2nd is not out of the equation still and I'd be shocked if he falls out of the Top 5-7
Misa in the OHL =
11-14-25 Points in 19 Games as a 17 yo
(A 39-50-89 Point pace in 68 Games)
After only scoring 2-3-5 Points in his 1st 7 DY-1 Games he has scored:
9-11-20 Points in 12 Games
(A 51-62-113 Point Pace)
On the season Misa =
2x 3 point games
9x 2 point games
4x 2 goal games
His 1.32 u17 year old season ranks 5th in OHL history during the Salary Cap era.
2025 is a great draft year it looks like.
What video editing software do you use?
Adobe Premiere
While the whole exceptional status thing wasnt a thing in the 70s, Gretzky basically went that route as well.. I think he could have deserved a mention here at least
We need to get him to 1 million subs🎉
grat video, I got autographs of shane wright on a puck, john taveres on a stick of his and ,conor mcdavid on a puck.
Remember sean day....pepridge farms remembers 😂😂😂😂😂
Cant wait to see wrighr play
BRANDT
Kraken should have called up Wright already. They have gone cold and Beniers is off to a bad start!
Wright is doing great in the AHL...at 19, 6', 200lbs, leave him there to build his pro body & game. He has a has a great coach there in Dan Bylasma.
5:05 is that you Bisping?
You didn’t put Bedard in the S column?
I bet he gets there, kinda hard to rate anyone that high as a rookie
Crosby playing in NS at 13. Send him to billet family in Ontario or Montreal.
Just gonna slide in…
I really hope there is another honest to goodness reason they are being denied the exception status here other than the “threatening to go to college” route that is mentioned here as being the reason?
Chicken shit broken system if that is really the reason at the end of the day as far as those leagues losing money being the reason why they prevent them from being approved, if it’s really the case?
Veleno will be a C tier after this season, he looks really good this season
Not really considering his exceptional status.
@@tonybleau6219 you heard the reason he got it, they didnt want to lose him to another league
davo be in high b tier by the end of his career- ultimate fizzler.. went from the true goat the games ever seen to total average role player 9 months later.. ulty sadge
I'm curious if michkov will be on one of these. That's even if Russian Bedardsky ever makes it to Philly. I don't he'll step on American ice at all. I have a strong feeling that he won't make it out of Russia and once again the Flyers will have wasted a pick. I hope I'm wrong. I guess we'll see in a couple of years. I'm loving Bedard..kinda over hearing about him nonstop. We all know his story more than he does
We know how to bred them in Canada.
Being in Philly I'm pretty unfortunate that I can't really watch an oilers game unless they're playing the Flyers. So I haven't been able to really watch and focus on McDavid aside from highlights. Kinda sucks. Also...wtf is day?
Who decides who is exceptioonal?
My house was in this video lol
gotta do a new video with Gavin Mckenna
Bedard is defiantly “S” Tier
Jordan McDavid ?😮
You never want to wish young men any bad times. But let's be real, Shayne wright was full of himself in his interviews, he was full of himself at the draft stating he was going number one and have Habs the full stair down when they didn't pick him first. It reminded me of Zadina that wasn't picked by the Habs and he said he would scor lots of goals against the Habs and he isn't even in the NHL now.
I am enjoying seing Shayne Wright struggling to make the NHL LMAO. Slavkoski is just starting to show some promise but he has some work to do to be a top two forward. He has a great attitude however and works his but t off. Just goes to say that not all drafts are the same. Had Bedard made it to MTL he would become a GOD at the REAL MECHA SHRINE of Hockey.
FTL...
Imagine barzal and mcdavid on the same line Jesus
The CHL is way better than college leagues, my local team, the London Knights, feels like a mini-NHL, that's how they market themselves too. They have a massive (For the Juniors) 9,000 seat stadium that they sell out nearly every night, they have a history of flashy, dynamic players that get drafted high, then make a huge impact. John Tavares, Nazem Kadri, Darryl Sittler, Mitch Marner, Matthew Tkachuk, Corey Perry, Patrick Cane, Rick Nash and Max Domi, even the current roster has a bunch of dynamic and fun players like Easton Cowan, Denver Barkey, Jackson Edward, Ruslan Gazizov and Kasper Haultunan. A very very successful franchise with diehard fans that love the team. Businesses that sponsor the team will have a sticker on their door saying they're a proud partner and will often have deals and sales when the Knights score, everything about the team screams professional and well run. Only down side is they don't have a real goal horn, it's a recording that plays through the sound system, it's a recording of Boston's horn and their goal song is the same as Chicago's
People don't understand man they dont. That 2000/2010'/ era THE RIVAVLRY of London and Kitchener was so hard man it felt stronger than ANY NHL team rivalry, fans throwin shit at each other police coming to every game it was so wild it was like a EURO FOOTBALL game. I miss that Rivalry being so strong
@@2brok3 It's STILL goes hard! Plus our rivalry with Sarnia and Windsor! Though luckily the blood stays on the ice and not the stands. The only issue we have is that our dynamic star players can be... too creative... Easton making flash dekes and moves till he eventually falls on his ass or gets a poke check from the defender he's deking, or, tries to pass to another player that only goes to the stick of the opposing player. I still love Easton Cowan's play, but he's had a rough few games. Plus we still haven't won against an american team this season, both at home and on the road
Isn’t London an OHL team?
@@samrastagar8554 The CHL is a league comprising 3 smaller leagues: The WHL in the West Coast and Prairies, The OHL in Ontario and the Midwest US, and the QMJHL in Quebec and the Maritimes. The winner of each league plus the host team play for the CHL's Memorial Cup, one of the hardest trophies in Hockey to win, the London Knights have won it Twice btw. So me saying the London Knights is part of the CHL is accurate and you need to learn basic Junior Hockey knowledge
@@coastaku1954 Okay okay thanks I wasn’t familiar with that. Thanks for explaining!
Misa is not going 1st in 2025, that’s James Hagens
6:46 i think you mean a child in a grown mans body haha
I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say the pandemic and Canada’s ludicrous response dethroned the CHL as the best path to the NHL
Honestly Im hoping Joe Valeno can get the 2nd line centre by the end of the year in Detroit. I mean we kinda need him to. Copp and Compher are not better than him.
Hope they send copp back to the rangers he wa sick with them
@@codymachado I would be so happy if they got him out of Detroit.
I mean i remember being 20 playing against 15 year olds......just house league though haha
I'm still mad about Bedard going to the Hawks. That franchise does not deserve a player that talented. Let me put it this way, I'm a Sharks fan myself and I would have rather he went to the *Ducks* than the Hawks even if it meant having to face him more times per year with the team in the same division.
As a Hawks fan, I am loving your tears.
The franchise is bigger than any owner or management team can or ever will be. Not a Chicago fan and these takes are frankly stupid.
Everyone involved in the scandal is serving a lifetime ban from the sport, what more do you want?
@@kenkunz1428long established the corruption of Chicago Carries over to Bettemen. Wings deserve some lottery love as we have lost draft spots in 5 of last 7 years twice just getting our spot. No one has lost more draft spots then the Wings in last 10 years. But the Hawks? That’s ok, Detroit can do it the hard way. Only shot Chicago has is to get gifted everything like with Kane and Towes.
@@mattmc20 Were the Hawks also gifted Keith, Seabrook, Sharp, Bolland, Crawford, Hossa, and Hjallmerson? Jeez, if you think it's fixed then why would you even follow hockey? Loving the anguish over this, but especially the tears of a Detroit fan.
@@kenkunz1428 we still have more cups…. And that’s all that really matters
Saying Tavares wasn’t a game breaking player stinks of recency bias. Being a PPG up until 4 or 5 years ago was like putting up 100 points nowadays.
i mean he didnt break any games as an Islander, he was a great player but never had the impact of a Crosby or McDavid who are truely game breakers.
Tavares was clearly a tier below Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Bergeron, Kane, Toews, and probably Stamkos.
Always great but never amongst the best.
@@chrismdb5686no he was easily in the tier that involved Malkin, Kane, Toews, Kopitar etc…
Crosby and Ovechkin were a tier above.
Tavares proj. 82 Games =
S1:
24-30-54
S2:
30-39-69
S3:
31-50-81
S4:
48-32-80
S5:
34-58-93
S6:
38-48-86
S7:
35-39-74
S8:
30-40-70
S9:
37-47-84
S10:
47-41-88
S11:
34-44-78
S12 (Bubble)
28-51-79
S13:
28-51-79
S14:
37-45-82
S15:
34-58-93
Proj. Stats:
15x a minimum 20 goal pace
14x a minimum 25 goal pace
12x a minimum 30 goal pace
9x a minimum 34 goal pace
2x a minimum 40 goal pace
2x a minimum 45 goal pace
8x a minimum 80 point pace
4x a minimum 85 point pace
5x a minimum of 50 assist pace
Being on pace to score a minimum of 30 goals in 80% of your seasons is amazing
Scoring:
434-560-994 Points in only 1046 Games is amazing
In the Salary Cap era
4th in G/GP among those who scored a minimum of 400 Goals
6th in P/GP among those who scored a minimum of 990 Points
Tavares is the only player from 2011-12 to 2023-24 to score a minimum of:
380 Goals
&
490 Assists
@@LETZGONHLdraft Everyone will remember the players I listed. Isles fans and us old farts will have to remind people about Tavares and his career.
@@chrismdb5686 That is because he played in the Islanders.
pluh
Mcdavo is over rated definitely peaked in the ohl…. He’s doing a good job holding down last place in the league though I wonder where him and Leo will go when they request trades next season
15 is the age of exceptional status players. Not 14.
Crosby did not go back to play for Halifax after SSM. He also did not go back to Midget AAA because of parents harassment.
He went to SSM because he can play against older players.
Do your homework before making videos
The WHL drafts at age 14. Being declared exceptional in the WHL can potentially lead to games played at age 14. I put a correction in when I said Halifax, and his abuse/lawsuit was a large factor in him going to SSM. Was it the only reason? no, but it was definitely a factor.
Dont u make this same video every year?
My last update was 2 years ago. I think it’s a fun topic to revisit considering many of the prospects weren't drafted in the last video
@@RobTalksHockeythats fair, btw im muslim and i like that you are too making videos about my favourite sport
Good video, bad tierlist.
LOL. Grown man in a Child body 😅
I know there was Eric Lindros, Brad Marchand, etc... but in my mind. Shane Wright will ALWAYS be the BIGGEST BlTCH IN NHL HISTORY! He doesn't even deserve a passing grade. he is the biggest flop pick EVER! (in my mind)