The History Of The Best NHL Player From Every Era

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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci +6

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    Who is the best player from each era on your team?

    • @MrTherater1
      @MrTherater1 Před 5 měsíci

      Alright rob, let's talk boogaard and enforcers teir levels

    • @moody9442
      @moody9442 Před 5 měsíci +1

      this adjusted scoring its a useless statistic. gretzky spans his peers by 1000 points. the gap between gretzky1# and jagr2# is about the same gape as jagr2# and paul karyia#100. no modern day player spans the next by even 100. gretzky would do today what he did yesteryear. if jagr was able to play in both the gretzky era and todays era theirs no reason to say that a prime gretzky would wreck todays game by the same margins.

    • @ronmailloux8655
      @ronmailloux8655 Před 5 měsíci

      Joe Tonelli lol come on man .

    • @manu-animation-924
      @manu-animation-924 Před 5 měsíci

      Sad you didn’t talk about Pavel bure he scored back to back 60 goals and back to back above 50 goals during dead puck era and had a short career because of Russian mafia

    • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
      @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

      but nowadays talent is soooo dilluted to 32 teams... even though they are incredible athletes it balances things out and give elite players an edge nowadays

  • @donkeykongenjoyer
    @donkeykongenjoyer Před 5 měsíci +25

    This channel is so unbelievably underrated. The editing, the writing, the delivery, and just you too!! Been here since 30k I think, I hope to stick around forever :)

  • @mickshealthjourney3635
    @mickshealthjourney3635 Před 5 měsíci +19

    Neal Broten was the OG American-Born GOAT: He was the first player to win championships at the Collegiate Level (NCAA Champ with Minnesota and a Hobey Baker Award), Amateur/Olympic Level (USA Gold in 1980 Olympics), and Professional Level (Stanley Cup with the Devils in 1995). Just shy of 1,000 points in his career in the NHL, he paved the way for more American-born players to really shine in the league.

    • @kirkmcknight7595
      @kirkmcknight7595 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Don’t forget a Campbell conference trophy with the Northstars and a Wales conference trophy with the Devils. He even dropped the gloves with and whipped Wayne Gretzky’s ass AND was voted best player born in Minnesota EVER! Do some better research man

    • @mickshealthjourney3635
      @mickshealthjourney3635 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@kirkmcknight7595 He also scored the first goal in Dallas Stars history after they moved from Minnesota. Had it not been for Claude Lemieux, Broten would have likely won the Conn Smythe in 95 (4 game winners that playoffs): a career 0.84 PG really turned it on during both deep playoff runs: 0.95 PPG with the Devils in 95 and 0.96 with Minnesota in 91.

    • @robertraymond8525
      @robertraymond8525 Před 5 měsíci

      Easy to impress Americans lol

    • @oliverzhang1189
      @oliverzhang1189 Před 5 měsíci

      😊

  • @ericrenaud1733
    @ericrenaud1733 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Just watched this video to make sure Mario Lemieux was on here.
    I'm from Ontario, Canada, so I love Gretzky, but man, Mario could just dominate a game like no one else. He's definitely the most talented player I've ever seen.

  • @Khorney
    @Khorney Před 5 měsíci +11

    Rob, good video, but you are kind of missing the point. Gretzky isn't considered the best just bcause he scored alot of points. He's considered the best because he was so much better and got so many more points than everybody else at the time.
    For example, last season McDavid was incredible, putting up a whooping 153 points, which is 20% more than #2 in the league: Draisaitl at 128 points.
    Compare these with 3 different seasons from the 80's.
    In the 82-83 season, #2 in the league points wise was Peter Stastny with 124 points, Gretzky #1 had 196 which is a 58% increase.
    In the 83-84 season, Coffey was #2 with 126 points, Gretzky #1 had a 62% points increase at 205 points.
    In the 86-87 season Kurri was #2 with 108 points and Gretzky #1 had a 70% points increase with 183 points.
    These are Gretzky compared to the number 2 in points in the entire league. Gretzky, in the 80's, frequently scored between 40-60% more points than number 2 in the league, sometimes, like shown above it was even up to 70% higher. If McDavid had scored 70% more points than #2 in the league last season, he would have scored 217 points compared to Draisaitl's 128. But in his best season, McDavid just barely got 20% more in his best ever season. Usually it's been alot closer.
    Don't get me wrong, I think that McDavid is one of the best ever, but if we compare players to their peers AT THE TIME, it's not even a close comparison whatsoever. And the only way you can compare players is between who they play against. If McDavid or Crosby had played in the 80's they would have been visibly worse players than we have seen them be in their primes because of worse equipment, training, workouts, nutrition etc.

    • @benguin_
      @benguin_ Před 5 měsíci +1

      The skill floor is higher today than it was in the past though.
      For example, in 1922 the women’s high jump record was 1.46m. In 1986 the record was set at 2.08m. In the intervening period, there were about 55 different changes in that record.
      The point I’m making, is that while Gretzky was undoubtedly a great player, that doesn’t make him the best player of all time. Was he ahead of his time in terms of skill? Absolutely. Was the skill gap between him and other players the widest during his playing days? Sure.
      Do I think Crosby and McDavid could absolutely wipe the floor with him? You bet.

    • @willzwoodsworth6910
      @willzwoodsworth6910 Před 5 měsíci

      Also, I think it's impossible to put McDavid in the GOAT conversation given that he has never even won a single conference final game, much less won four cups like Gretzky.

    • @Khorney
      @Khorney Před 5 měsíci

      @@benguin_ But it's not a fair comparison. Take any player from the 80's, not just Gretzky, you cannot compare them with players that play 40 years later. The players of today have access to better equipment, training, nutrition, health systems, protection, supplements, etc.
      They have better support systems, it's a much cleaner sport and alot of the rules have changed. If you do a straight comparison with the players from 40 years ago with the ones playing today you are giving them a massive disadvantage that has nothing to do with how good or bad players they were.
      If McDavid or Crosby had been born in the same year as Gretzky or Mike Bossy for example, they would have been visibly worse compared to his modern day counter part and they would have been alot more vulnerable. If you do a straight comparison, you're effectively disregarding the past 35-40 years of hockey and that's unfair to all of these players.

    • @theold4734
      @theold4734 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@willzwoodsworth6910 worst argument ever.... cups etc. are team succeses not individual

    • @benguin_
      @benguin_ Před 5 měsíci

      @@Khorney If you can’t compare the modern day to the previous day, the same holds true in reverse. Rule changes, tactics, playing style, technique, travel time, games per season etc are all areas where there are marked differences.
      Again, was Gretzky ahead of his time in terms of skill? Absolutely. Does that make him the greatest player of all time? Absolutely not.

  • @jadon3776
    @jadon3776 Před 5 měsíci +9

    You forgot about Nail Yakupov, the amazing first overall stud that sent ripples across the league for years

  • @popeyesailor9571
    @popeyesailor9571 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I met Gordie Howe at the pre skate against the Oakland Seals and Redwings. I asked him a dumb question but he was so nice to me. what a great guy.

    • @v4v819
      @v4v819 Před 5 měsíci +3

      There are no dumb questions... But for the sake of curiosity, what was that question you asked Mr. Hockey, son?

    • @gymguy25
      @gymguy25 Před 3 měsíci

      Meanest guy on the ice, nicest guy off of it!

  • @nhlvan
    @nhlvan Před 5 měsíci +37

    Enjoyed the video, but some notes:
    5:12 Gordie Howe didn't "make the shocking decision to leave the NHL for the WHA." He had been retired from playing for a few years, even inducted into the HHOF, but when his sons got signed with the Houston Aeroes, he was convinced by the team to suit up and play with his sons. It's unlikely he would've ever played again after retiring in 1971 if not for his sons.
    8:27 Bobby Orr won 2 cups, not 4 lol...

    • @ronmailloux8655
      @ronmailloux8655 Před 5 měsíci +1

      he does nt know I guess just reading whats in front of him or too lazy to research.

    • @masweber14
      @masweber14 Před 5 měsíci

      Hes pulling these facts out of his ass

    • @yerb.
      @yerb. Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ronmailloux8655 i always notice it in this guys videos...

    • @steveciancone8941
      @steveciancone8941 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@yerb. Yeah same, every video there is misstated fact, in this one there are multiple..
      Like don’t get me wrong, great content, but the consistency of misstated facts is getting ridiculous

    • @MayonnaiseOreo
      @MayonnaiseOreo Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@yerb.He often says stuff that is pretty off even for modern day players. I had to correct him on Sean Couturier not being a disappointment when he was one of the best shutdown centers in the league while playing on the 3rd line and scoring about 0.5 points per game prior to him becoming a 70-80 point per year guy. I feel like he just looks at raw point totals without knowing the players and their histories that well.

  • @CanadianBongRipper
    @CanadianBongRipper Před 5 měsíci +11

    Howie Morenz is such an underrated legend. He was the McDavid of his time, he was much faster and more skilled than anyone else. Very sad end to his career

  • @WilliamTheDestroyer.
    @WilliamTheDestroyer. Před 5 měsíci +5

    Rob, thank you for mentioning Iggy and the Flames teams he was on, and for mentioning the 220 point pace 66 was on. I suggest a video on the math for Lemieux's full career if he had played full seasons and didn't miss seasons. The numbers will blow your mind--3000+. I know it would be a great video; because you made it.

  • @ZachDunnTV
    @ZachDunnTV Před 5 měsíci +3

    This is genuinely such a well crafted video. The educational value and incredibly entertaining! Keep up the great work!

  • @jasonsun4468
    @jasonsun4468 Před 5 měsíci +105

    I don't wanna be that guy, but if there are 32 teams and 82 games, there should be 1312 games, not 2624 since you have 2 teams per game.

    • @Mirrale
      @Mirrale Před 5 měsíci +28

      Someone needed to be that guy.
      Edit: also to be that guy with you. It’s a pet peeve of mine when people say something increased “exponentially” when it didn’t. That means something very specific but people often just use it to vaguely say “a lot”. He does this when he mentions the increase of scoring in the 1940’s but it hadn’t even doubled.
      It’s a nitpick for sure, but I think one worth making because some things in life DO increase exponentially, so it’s important for people to understand the gravity of that term.

    • @ryleywitter2882
      @ryleywitter2882 Před 5 měsíci +13

      U both desperately need lives.

    • @BebopMansion
      @BebopMansion Před 5 měsíci +10

      Totally fine to be that guy

    • @mpaulm
      @mpaulm Před 5 měsíci +2

      Lidstrom’s adjusted numbers are wrong as well.

    • @bobbya2008
      @bobbya2008 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Goals per game is just what one team scores in a game so it wouldn’t be 1312 extra goals smart guy

  • @FREDDIEPLAYZOFFICALYT
    @FREDDIEPLAYZOFFICALYT Před 2 měsíci

    Gonna be honest I have been here for more then 2 years and I still love it all and I think the channel deserves 1M we love you Rob

  • @habs2012
    @habs2012 Před 5 měsíci

    This video is awesome. Great research/editing. This type of hockey content and analysis is not available anywhere. Keep up the good work!

  • @earl3358
    @earl3358 Před 5 měsíci +5

    John 'Joe' Tonelli was one of the greatest gamers the game has ever seen and an integral part of one of its greatest 4 Cup dynasties. If No Cup Conner played with half of Tonellis intensity and tenacity he just might actually achieve some playoff success

    • @ronmailloux8655
      @ronmailloux8655 Před 5 měsíci

      yeah who is Joe Tonelli ? lol this guy s the limit for gaffes.

    • @patbrennan6572
      @patbrennan6572 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I thinkJoe Tonelli was better than his brother John. LOL.

    • @earl3358
      @earl3358 Před 5 měsíci

      Certainly, Joe was a big factor in helping Bobby Orr get his 3rd and 4th cups. Along with a guy named Broten, who mostly everybody has forgotten about.

    • @grantfraser5430
      @grantfraser5430 Před měsícem

      I never heard of Joe Tonelli either. But I almost fell off my chair when he said he had never heard of Neal Broten. To be fair, I'm probably a bit older but if you're doing hockey videos you really should know the very good players, not just the greats.

  • @EDawg-bo4vz
    @EDawg-bo4vz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow Ive never commented on your youtube videos even though ive been watching since 2020 but that was a master piece. (Hope 100k comes soon bc you deserve it)

  • @imulippo5245
    @imulippo5245 Před 5 měsíci

    Old footage is really enjoyable to watch, great video!

  • @BoloH.
    @BoloH. Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm in Lemieux camp, he had a lot of competition in that era.

  • @JetsLegends
    @JetsLegends Před 5 měsíci

    Holy your videos are so good and fun to watch especially long videos

  • @judeau9151
    @judeau9151 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Datsyuk is every hockey players favorite hockey player

  • @nevenjokic7114
    @nevenjokic7114 Před 5 měsíci +4

    you are forgetting to factor in Mario Lemieux 199 point season in 1989. i feel like that says more about how good lemieux really was.

  • @pelkariya6660
    @pelkariya6660 Před 4 měsíci

    That Golden Eye music hits hard. Great vid !

  • @jcanfieldschatz
    @jcanfieldschatz Před 5 měsíci +1

    Rob, I enjoy the vids. Justs a technical idea, maybe add chapters to your videos when the time is over 16-20 minutes?

  • @MurtazaPirani
    @MurtazaPirani Před 5 měsíci +4

    I know he was only playing for a short while but im surprised joe malone didn't come up in this video. According to his stats he was by far and beyond the best goal scorer for the seasons he played, even putting up 44 goals in 20 games.
    Search him up, i think he scored 8 goals in a single game once.

    • @marcelluslongus1202
      @marcelluslongus1202 Před 5 měsíci

      I just did that. He really was a phenomenon.

    • @v4v819
      @v4v819 Před 5 měsíci

      I'll check out his highlight video on youtube.

    • @MrSharkFIN
      @MrSharkFIN Před 5 měsíci

      @@v4v819 good luck finding that 💀

  • @jimbobbyhutchinson313
    @jimbobbyhutchinson313 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Tonelli is so unknown to you you got his name wrong, John Tonelli. lol Great vid!

  • @kevinso187
    @kevinso187 Před 5 měsíci

    Love your content rob keep em coming

  • @732852971
    @732852971 Před 3 měsíci +1

    JJ68 is the most dedicated player to the sport ever! Man is 2nd in the NHL, 54 and still playing pro hockey, and he barely gets mentioned almost every damn time. That makes me sad.

  • @erickleroux8357
    @erickleroux8357 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great vid as always. But boy does it irk me when I hear about players winning the Rocket before its inception in 1999.

  • @midgetplant281
    @midgetplant281 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Respect to Lidstrom but I think Hasek also makes a case for the best player of the 2000's like that man was so dominant and it woulda been nice to get some goalie love in this video

    • @robertraymond8525
      @robertraymond8525 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I agree with you the late 90s and 2000s were goalie dominated with Hasek , Roy , Brodeur but Hasek wasnt the Dominator for nothing , playing against him was a nightmare

    • @robertjansson7968
      @robertjansson7968 Před 4 měsíci

      Interesting with the same comparison for goalies gaa. Grant Fuhr had just below 4 in the 80's. In the late 90's he had 2,5 with the blues. Was he a better goalie then? No way.

  • @PompeyGamesRoom
    @PompeyGamesRoom Před 5 měsíci

    Great content as always Rob.

  • @localfocalkc
    @localfocalkc Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you for bringing up Mario lemieux what a complete player!

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    My dad always said that aside the greats you named, among the best to ever play were :
    Larry Robinson, Bob Gainey, Michel Goulet, Marcel Dionne, Gilbert Perreault...MIKE BOSSY!
    My picks were from my era : Teemu Selanne, Pavel Bure, Alex Mogilny, Sergei Fedorov and my goat Jaromir Jagr.

  • @thepspman116
    @thepspman116 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I lived inside hockey books from the 70s,80s,90s and yeah Neal Brotten was for sure a US legend, if Minnesota wins the cup in 91 (LOL), Brotten likely wins the Smythe, tho Brian Bellows and the goalie were stars too

  • @rdspam
    @rdspam Před 5 měsíci +2

    Tough to not have Jagr at least mentioned.

  • @anonymous-so1wb
    @anonymous-so1wb Před měsícem

    joe malone was also a solid goal scorer in the 1920s(got 44 goals in 22 games once and once got 7 goals in a game)

  • @ChiknNugg3s
    @ChiknNugg3s Před 5 měsíci +1

    I miss watching the Sedin twins! Absolutely magic on the ice!

  • @MurtazaPirani
    @MurtazaPirani Před 5 měsíci +1

    Quick note at 1:17, it seems like simple math to multiply number of games x number of teams, but since every game counts as a game for 2 teams, there's actually only 1,312 games in an nhl season.
    Good video though!

    • @rdspam
      @rdspam Před 5 měsíci

      If you’re going to count both teams in one game played, then you would need to count both team’s goals-per-game. 2624*3 or 1312*6 is the same number. But “goals per game” is almost universally a per-team metric. So 2624 team-games played multiplied by goals per game, a per-team-game number, gives a goals total.

  • @IAmFamousForMyCovers
    @IAmFamousForMyCovers Před 5 měsíci +1

    There are so many factors to the way the game is today compared to other decades, that you cant just use adjusted scoring to say so and so would get x points in 2023.

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    have you bought the book "TOTAL Hockey" ??
    I've got it in 1999-2000 and gave it to a friend when i stopped fgollowing the nhl in 2005. BUT in 2022 I bought it again. AMAZING archive.

  • @matt75hooper
    @matt75hooper Před 4 měsíci

    Consider this mind boggling record : Bobby Orr lead the NHL a record (6) times. His average Plus / Minus those (6) seasons was a +80. That's not a misprint, +80. During those (6) seasons Orr was (2) Scoring titles, came in runner up 3 more times & won the Norris Trophy all those seasons he lead the NHL in Plus Minus. A feat that will never ever be duplicated. Orr stands alone as the most dominant player of all time. Folks, you simply had to be there.

  • @mpaulm
    @mpaulm Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is why adjusted for era is one of my favorite stats.

  • @Maxville2
    @Maxville2 Před 5 měsíci

    Fantastic video!

  • @v4v819
    @v4v819 Před 5 měsíci

    Thumbs up for the music alone! Video is great too but music for the win!

  • @alangris365
    @alangris365 Před měsícem

    Howe didn't leave the NHL for the WHA . He retired from the NHL and worked for the Wings for two years. Hull on the other hand scored 50 goals 71/72 and left the NHL to sign with the WHA , he might have been the highest goal scorer had he stayed .

  • @robertraymond8525
    @robertraymond8525 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Good Video but Lemieux is th GOAT to me as he too faced : Goalie getting better with the butterfly style and years or hooking on top of his personal struggle , also weird of you not mentioning Jagr , if Mario Jr didnt leave for a couple of years he would be much higher in the discussion for GOAT

  • @johnclaudevondon5333
    @johnclaudevondon5333 Před 5 měsíci

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 RTH at it again!

  • @ricecrispy7951
    @ricecrispy7951 Před měsícem

    Crosby, like Lindros, has always been a puck watcher. Concussions should never happen but when you skate with head down you are much more likely to have several concussions

  • @lindenmcdiarmid2009
    @lindenmcdiarmid2009 Před 5 měsíci +2

    No mention of Erik Gudbranson?

  • @jordan_said_what
    @jordan_said_what Před 5 měsíci +1

    Damn McDavid had 64 goals and 153 points in only 22 games??? He is THE GOAT

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    Didn't hear you mention the 11 cup of Henri... but was working... might have missed it

  • @Keeboy96
    @Keeboy96 Před 5 měsíci

    Special mention to Guy Lafleur in the 70s. He won 3 art Ross and Lester B person in row from 75 to 78. But of course Bobby Orr was still the best of 70s because of what he did for a defenseman.

  • @samuellaprise5582
    @samuellaprise5582 Před měsícem

    @Rob talks hockey What if Lemieux played in the "Same Era" as Gretzky🤔 ( I know they were not that far away but in this graph, it shows how he came in at a lowest scoring era than Wayne) What do you think would have happen?(Let's say Lemieux has a healthy career)
    Love the content❤

  • @kentmartin9289
    @kentmartin9289 Před 5 měsíci

    A few corrections for the Gordie Howe portion of the video. Bobby Orr retired before Howe. Orr was in the hall of fame at the time Gordie Howe retired. Also, he didn't leave the NHL for the WHA, he retired for a couple years and then made a comeback in the WHA to play with his sons. It's impossible to know if he would have come back at all if the WHA didn't exist. Also, he wasn't quite the first player to crack 100 points in a season. Phil Esposito did it first, and then Howe was one of 2 other players to do it later that same season (Bobby Hull being the other).

  • @gymguy25
    @gymguy25 Před 3 měsíci

    Couple things: Crosby has 2 Harts, not 3, the Rocket Richard wasn't awarded until 1999 and that Gretzky is the goat is far from unanimous; true, Orr didn't play long, but the things he did were so outstanding (you didn't even mention his absurd dominance in the +/- statistic) that many people still say he is the best ever. There are also many who will tell you Gordie Howe because he was more complete than Gretzky and like you mentioned, some people observed Lemieux's talent and think he had more of if than Gretzky.

  • @KptKrunch9481
    @KptKrunch9481 Před 4 měsíci

    I saw Lemieux play once - I even won the in rink 'contest' a Thrifty car rental 'move of the game' and got to sit at center ice 6 rows up from my nose bleeds. Lemieux was sick then but it was before his diagnosis so at the time we didn't know. He was horrible in that game - he just floated around shift after shift after shift. Until the last minute ....... down by a goal (this was before the OT era) he decided to play and scored two goals in the final minute of the game - pretty much doing it on his own too with no help from teammates. It's like the Jets (Game was in Wpg) were just standing around (they weren't). After the game I had told my buddy "Could you imagine the score if he played like that the whole game - what a lazy bum'. Again, unbeknownst to us that he was suffering with cancer at that time - something that would have grounded most of us never mind play a professional sport. Gretzky was the smartest player to ever live no doubt about it - but in terms of physicality and talent it's not even close Lemieux was best (I saw both play and no one dominated like Mario did when he was on his game). McDavid is easily 3rd given what he can do at full speed - Bobby Orr is 4th only because he played in a era where no one had seen the likes of him before and like McDavid now he was much faster on his skates then 95% of the league.

  • @HoaxNA
    @HoaxNA Před 5 měsíci

    Great video Rob , hope you doing well really like the channel

  • @MillerLivestockCanada
    @MillerLivestockCanada Před 5 měsíci

    Great video

  • @oldthug7624
    @oldthug7624 Před 5 měsíci

    In my opinion, I think Mcdavid is the new GOAT. Don't get me wrong, Gretsky is unreal, and is 2nd place, but to play at the level Mcdavid does, with the current skill of the NHL is just unreal. Not even an oilers fan, but we should start giving him that.

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    in the 2020s... dark horse a re Kucherov, Arturi Lekonen,
    to the legends to be McDavid, Cooley, Bedard, and co

  • @conallgarrison9095
    @conallgarrison9095 Před 5 měsíci +4

    where ovechkin

  • @kentmartin9289
    @kentmartin9289 Před 5 měsíci

    Interesting breakdown, but a bit weird when you are boiling things down to adjusted point production to not use the best seasons from a decade with regards to point production. Like, sure Bobby Orr was the best of the 70's, but his adjusted points would be lower than Esposito's 152 point season. Same with the 2000's, where you choose Lidstrom who is a defensive specialist instead of using Crosby's 120 point season. I crunched the numbers and it only makes an adjusted point or two difference, but Gretzky's best season in points per game was actually the 205 he scored in 74 games in 1983-84. I appreciate the asterisks for the shortened seasons, but even so, that season from Crosby was so short it probably shouldn't have been used at all. Only 22 games is basically a streak. Gretzky had 66 points through the first 22 games in 1983-84, but that didn't mean he ended up with 240 points.
    I didn't disagree with any of the players you chose as the best for a decade, but it was kind of trying to combine 2 separate things into a single thing that just didn't quite fit, in my opinion. Overall still good, but could have been better.

  • @oldthug7624
    @oldthug7624 Před 5 měsíci

    51 and still in the NHL is unreal. Howe was unbreakable

  • @FirelordTwinkyz
    @FirelordTwinkyz Před 3 měsíci

    I'm so glad the title is Best player from every (ERA) People argue who the greatest of all time not thinking that human evolution is a thing the skill of players today is unmatched. that being said giving praise to legends of the past is a must cause without them the game would be the same

  • @Swoop187OG187
    @Swoop187OG187 Před 4 měsíci

    There's not just one GOAT, there are several GOATS and arguments can me made for all of them.. I mean, Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky have almost identical career PPG averages. Look, it's all subjective but it really comes down to preference and which style you prefer.

  • @benguin_
    @benguin_ Před 5 měsíci +1

    Astonished that Loui Eriksson isn’t on this list 😏

  • @DanB3286
    @DanB3286 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s crazy to look at 99s stats from 81-86 it’s absurd

  • @Sadokist
    @Sadokist Před 5 měsíci

    Crosby > McDavid. Dude came into a team who didnt have a million number one picks and lost half of his prime to concussions, significabtly lowering his best seasons and overall totals. Not to mention, it was lower scoring than the last few seasons. I also think both are good leaders, but Crosby is a GREAT leader.

  • @v4v819
    @v4v819 Před 5 měsíci

    7:30 : What song is this! PLEASE!!!

  • @MisterWeebles28
    @MisterWeebles28 Před 5 měsíci

    Duuuuuuude THIS IS GONNA BE A BAAAANGER
    Edit: It was in fact, a banger.

  • @kevinbrowning5016
    @kevinbrowning5016 Před 5 měsíci +2

    32 Teams play 82 games but 2 teams play in each game. It should be 82 x 16 = 1312 Games in a season.

    • @rdspam
      @rdspam Před 5 měsíci

      Then multiply it by 6 goals per game, combined. But goals per game is always a per team metric, so there are 2624 team-games played.

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    AMEN for Lidstrom! But 1995 - 2005 is JAROMIR JAGR's era. PERIOD.
    1997-2008 maybe Lidstrom indeed. ANd I'm a canadian red wings fan.
    Jagr beat my Canada team in Nagano. He is my idol. You had to see him.

  • @Brendajanephillips514
    @Brendajanephillips514 Před 5 měsíci

    Tbh. With upcoming talentd like mckenna. I wouldnt be suprised to see the avarage gfg in the league hit 4.

  • @iheick768
    @iheick768 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This video needs more Ovi

  • @darkbeast7365
    @darkbeast7365 Před 5 měsíci

    I pretty much agree with every player from each era there’s no debate on that, but what I didn’t like was when u would consider there achievements from other eras and include them in the argument for why there the goat, for example, Sidney Crosby is the best player of the 2010s, but when u say he’s the best player of the 2010s and say he won 3 cups it sounds like he won’t 3 cups int he 2010s which he didn’t, he won 2, if we’re saying the best player in a specific time frame then you have to only include what they did in that time frame, that would be my only critique

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 Před 5 měsíci

    Lemieux was the most entertaining to watch.. shame he never got the chance tonchallenge for the title

  • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
    @WithScienceAsMySheperd Před 5 měsíci

    NEAL BROTEN was amazing ! You didn't know him? Like Dale Hawerchuk a legend of his era !!!

  • @stephenlundy4468
    @stephenlundy4468 Před 5 měsíci

    worthy of mention was Coffey and Hawerchuk

  • @mikedowns444
    @mikedowns444 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video, but to say as a fact that Lidstrom was the "most complete defenseman in NHL history" as a an agreed up on fact made me actually pause the video. Obviously an all time player/defenseman but there are arguments for other players I would put in there that stack up just as well as Lidstrom. For instance, Orr who was mentioned earlier in the video for some reason gets labeled as an "offensive defenceman" because of the staggering numbers with many people failing to realize when you go back and listen to his piers, he was equally as astute in his own zone.

  • @EricusXIV
    @EricusXIV Před měsícem

    Forsberg is glaringly absent from the conversation. Despite ranking ninth for points per game in NHL history, within an era marked by stringent defensive play and few goals, his remarkable achievements is unrecognized here. Notably, only Lemieux could rival his performance during that period.

  • @Odysseus38
    @Odysseus38 Před 5 měsíci

    First time ive heard unanimous said that way 😂😂😂

  • @TANNMAN54
    @TANNMAN54 Před 5 měsíci

    19:20 bro averaged 7points per game 😂

  • @mamagne800
    @mamagne800 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Maurice "The Rocket "Richard is the best player ever been. The first ever to score 50 goals in 50 games.

    • @KamaiyahFurriends
      @KamaiyahFurriends Před 5 měsíci +1

      For his Era maybe. But of all time, no he isn't. Now the impact on hockey Gretzky is up for debate. Maurice Richard as icon tho is an entire category of his own. Kids would get the same hair cut and not just 1 or 2 the whole province and abroad as well.

    • @duaneday5474
      @duaneday5474 Před 5 měsíci

      Richard elevated his game in the playoffs. His playoff stats are perhaps the most impressive in his career.
      Rocket may be the most determined goal scorer of all time.

    • @mamagne800
      @mamagne800 Před 5 měsíci

      @@KamaiyahFurriends Gretzky was playing with the like of Messier, Kurri and Coffee just to name a few and was able to play at ease being protected by Semenko. Maurice Richard had to protect himself by dropping the gloves and being chase by head hunters the whole game. Don't get me wrong, Gretzky is an amazing player but not sure he would have done all of his records playing in Richard era.

    • @KamaiyahFurriends
      @KamaiyahFurriends Před 5 měsíci

      @mamagne800 I don't even mention Gretzky when I talk of all time greatest... more like crosby

    • @robertraymond8525
      @robertraymond8525 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@mamagne800 dont forget that Maurice played with Toe Blake and Elmer Lach not too bad of a line either

  • @masweber14
    @masweber14 Před 5 měsíci

    You didnt mention how the rocket scored five goals during a playoff game

  • @capsfan8585
    @capsfan8585 Před 5 měsíci

    Correction for Crosby, that talentless hack only has two Hart trophies.
    Ovechkin is the best of that Era with 3 Hart trophies, 3 Ted Lindsay, 9 Rocket trophies, a conn Smyth and a Calder. Meaning he beat out Crosby in MVP voting 4 times to 2 (rookie and league) in head to head voting. He also has over 800 goals and on his way to the all-time record, doing it in an Era with some of the lowest scoring. That and he also is in running for the most hits all time.
    3 cups for Crosby is great but Kane did it in less years in the same Era and only has 1 less Hart trophy. So not like Crosby was doing anything that others weren't and he is not even chasing any significant records.
    Really the only thing Crosby revolutionized about the game of hockey was complaining to the refs and media so much that they eventually gave in and removed high hits. He also caused the league to begin enforcing slashing after he hacked off Mehot's finger and didn't even get a MINOR PENALTY despite doing it in front of the ref. Now to save face and not appear like they are actively favoring Crosby the league is over correcting by calling slash anywhere near the hands.
    Crosby has more points but the fact it is close and the fact that Ovechkin's points are mostly goals and primary points in an Era that was supposed to be hard to score in, seems a lot more impressive than Crosby that benefits handsomely from secondary points.
    Either way McDavid is already head and shoulders above all others in the current Era and far better than Crosby ever was even without a ring.

  • @lpm._
    @lpm._ Před 5 měsíci

    Not knowing Neal Broten is crazy

  • @johnbo666
    @johnbo666 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I still think you meant John Tonelli, not Joe.

  • @rdspam
    @rdspam Před 5 měsíci +2

    You’ve never heard of Neal Broten? Really?

  • @ronaniksiktaaryuk3389
    @ronaniksiktaaryuk3389 Před 5 měsíci

    what if we added all of these super stars

  • @MK-ji9ke
    @MK-ji9ke Před 5 měsíci

    32x82 = 2,624 but the number of games per season is half that. 2 teams play each game so you're counting each game twice. The number of games/season is 1,312

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 5 měsíci

      One thing I should've emphasized is that 3.8 Goals scored per game, is a stat referencing a single team. Not total goals scored in that game. In the 80's it would've been 7.6 to 8 goals scored per game

  • @declanrobinson6005
    @declanrobinson6005 Před 5 měsíci

    How many uploads can we handle in a month! Have you slept lately?

  • @eliaminator2313
    @eliaminator2313 Před 5 měsíci

    Cy Denneny Sens Legend

  • @nurito26
    @nurito26 Před 5 měsíci

    50 in 50 is 82 goals in 82 games :o

  • @ugiswrong
    @ugiswrong Před 5 měsíci

    Konecny reminds me of Morenz in the face

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 Před měsícem

    Howe gretzky crosby ovi the rest are debatable.

  • @templetonbob
    @templetonbob Před 4 měsíci

    Gordie Howe is the human embodiment of the sport.

  • @russelljdj
    @russelljdj Před 26 dny

    Enjoyed your video, but factor in Orr's plus minus and you will understand why Orr is was and always will be the GREATEST! Not to ignore his toughness.

  • @Evocati-Augusti
    @Evocati-Augusti Před 5 měsíci

    How could you not mention the NY Islanders in the 70s, they didn't just win 4 cups, there 2nd season ,73-74 were they made it to the 3rd round of the playoffs, the next year 75-76 they come in second place and make it to round 3 and defenseman Denis Potvin is 2 points shy of a 100 point season and his older brother adds another 72 points as a defenceman, the next year they come in second place make the play offs and Potvin adds another 80 points,1977-1978 New York Islanders season was the 6th season for the franchise in the National Hockey League, and they have there team,Campbell Conference champions and Patrick Division champions and make the playoffs, Bryan Trottier 129 points Potvin 84 points and rookie of the year Mike Bossy scores 53 goals with 91 points and would score 50 goals a year for almost a decade,1978-79 season Campbell Conference champions and Patrick Division champions again, 358 goals ,Trottier 134 points , Bossy 126 and Potvin puts up 101 points, then for 4 seasons we win everything, 83-84 they win everything again but lose in the finals, the next year they make the playoffs 85-86 ,14 seasons wining records...1987-88 New York Islanders season Patrick Division champions, 15 seasons, I don't think any teams has put up those kind of number EVER in 15 straight seasons.1973-1988

    • @rdspam
      @rdspam Před 5 měsíci

      Because it’s not a video about great teams. It’s “best player from every era”. Do you really think any player of those ‘70’s teams is better than Bobby Orr, listed as the 70’s best player?

  • @joesheps3850
    @joesheps3850 Před 5 měsíci

    Crosby also destroyed a guys finger without a suspension so he’s gotta be the goat

  • @ConnorLyon
    @ConnorLyon Před 5 měsíci

    Rob your content ideas are super cool and interesting but it might be worth doing some double fact checking on some of the things you say.

  • @111oooo
    @111oooo Před měsícem

    Did you say Orr won 4 Stanley Cups?