Kylie Jenner is in TROUBLE...(cake gate)
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2024
- Kylie Jenner is being called out by a popular cake maker called Yip Studio for allegedly being cheap but things got messy when the cake maker ended up leaking the designs to her new fragrance...
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I’m astonished at how many businesses don’t require deposits from celebs. This cannot keep happening, stop trusting rich people y’all!
that then want or demand deposits from us normal folk
This is the one. The celebs know this and totally exploit businesses. Plus they get free stuff all the time so they think everyone should give them free things.
I used to work weddings as a florist and we worked a celebrity’s wedding who literally only paid our deposit (because we refused otherwise). Bride was writing checks the night of her wedding. Her and her husband were deplorable all around.
Right? I'm tired of people putting thise shitty rich celebs on pedestal
Kardashians are well known for scamming people
The bottle is “soooo gorgeous”? LMAO It looks like a clear potato….
That’s what I was thinking too😭😭 maybe the next one will look like a carrot, at least then I’d be interested in buying it 💀
Same honestly
My thoughts as well. A potato. Does Kylie have any creativity in her body? It's none.
😂😂 clear potato
Thought the same haha
a billionaire doesn't have the funds for a cake 😬
Rich people are some of the cheapest people.
@@winning3329 my mom runs in olympics level dressage circles and you have no idea how right you are. You will never see more cups of maruchan ramen or bumblebee tuna than you will in a truly rich person's cupboard.
@@winning3329that part!! Feels like entitlement of wanting as much for free or reduced rate because the publicity would bring the business because of who they are.
You don’t become a billionaire by having bad business practices… ei spending money on
She also never tips lol runs in the family
To be fair, the cake maker shouldn’t have cleared her schedule till the order was booked.
That’s what I’m saying. I don’t even like Kylie but the cake lady got ahead of herself when it wasn’t even set in stone. And people saying wow she can’t afford a cake.. dude the team had a budget they had to pay for other stuff too.
Exactly, she only has herself to blame
Thank you, I cant believe the amount of people on her side. She was messy and she did it all over an enquiry, not a booking
I don’t like Kylie at all but this is just silly. She admits herself she got over excited at the opportunity. When I got a cake for my wedding I reached out to a few cake designers for quotes. The cake makers didn’t make a whole bunch of cakes assuming I’d buy it. They simply told me from the ideas I sent, ingredients preferred, and from the amount of servings around how much it would cost. She was so blinded by the money she forgot how to be a professional. Then she’s calling Kylie greedy? They both are… that’s why they in the luxury goods business. Clearing her whole schedule? That’s just bad business practice.
@@skylightergacha6791it’s so annoying! People think that rich people stay rich by going around throwing their money endlessly. Even the richest person in the world would go broke if they didn’t budget. She also throws dozens of parties a year. If she didn’t make a budget for them she’d go broke just from launch parties. I don’t like Kylie either but this isn’t even good drama this is just some over excited cake maker who forgot how to cake make when she was spoken to by a billionaire.
Messy....yes. But I don't care if Taylor Swift's team contacted me with a service inquiry...my first question would be "What’s your budget?" and then I'd tell them my fee for submitting a bid. If that scared them away, I wouldn't want to invest my time anyway. Basic business principles should be applied to celebs too!!
but she gave them the price right off the bat 😭
How do you get Taylor Swift involved in this 😭😭😭
@WonderstruckVault they're just giving an example of a big generally loved celebrity🤨 why do swifties think everything is an attack against ts?
Lmfao she told them the price from the start
THIS. I feel bad for her, but this is exactly the reason why you charge a deposit up front. Creating a deck/design proposal is a lot of work! People should get paid for their labor, and not charging a deposit is just setting yourself up for disappointment
i’m just confused why a cake was designed and made up if no contract was in place, nor was a deposit given.
There was not a cake made or designed. Only conceptualised which is not out of reach for something like this. I am a designer and have done the same thing due to clients being unable to “visualise” the product they are asking for and often make mood boards for them to make sure we are on the same page. However i do think with a huge client and the time put in, she should have charged a consult fee, 100%
@@neonllamasftw I'm 100% the first person who would look at 57 million pictures first, if I really wanted something special, I would 100% understand having to pay a consult fee for someone to take the time to put together some options for me to look at
I like how when it comes to time magazine she’s a billionaire, but when it comes to an effingg cake she is poor
I thought there was an articule to disproved the claim that she was a billionaire, they discovered that her team and mainly her mom inflated the claim (saying her cosmetics company was worth more) to get her Forbes cover of first self billionaire 🤪
That’s seems so scummy, I don’t know how they stay relevant.
A budget is a budget lol just because she’s a billionaire doesn’t mean she can be careless about her money + she was producing a new product 😭
Nothing was formally agreed. She got ahead of herself
Billionaires expect to get everything for free. You don’t get rich by spending money.
she's not really a billionaire as of 2023-24
I mean... I don't feel much sympathy towards a business owner who doesn't prioritise her customers over an overrated billionaire without taking any business safety precautions to cover any issues and damage that could arise while working them. You expect your "normal" customers to go through standard payment procedures but not a celebrity? Why? Cos celebrities are more trustworthy? Nothing but sad violin music for Amy atp 🙄
I agree with you, I hope this was truly a lesson learned for her
@@darkmusician0123 I hope she learns how to prioritise her actual paying customers as well
Agreed
I agree. She cleared her schedule for customers that would have paid her worth and did Kylie’s cake. And I bet you those people put down deposits but she gave Kylie a pass because she’s a celebrity
Exactly. She made so many bad moves
The baker starting something over nothing. Why would you hold off everyone elses order bc you saw kylies name, they didnt even officially order anything
She saw that as her opportunity
That bottle is just a basic ass design imo 😂😂😂
Umm, can you name some perfume that has that same basic packaging? I would love to buy some
I think the bottle is really interesting. You ever have that crazy thought of grabbing a ball of liquid glass and squeezing it? I think that’s what it looks like.
@@david__026 i did say “imo = in my opinion” lol to me its a super basic ass design for someone whose a billionaire they could have come up with a much better design.
@@KendallM0219 not really tbh like i’m glad theres people that will love this perfume and whatnot but i’m just not one of those people and just think the bottle design is lame thats all lol
Yeah and I’ve seen a very similar design many years back
I’m a baker, and this baker is VERY unprofessional. She majorly fumbled any opportunity to work with a celebrity again with her lack of self control. I have soooo many big and small people reach out for quotes and many of them say that the quote is out of the allotted budget they had in mind. No harm no foul… imagine if she blasted a regular client because it wasn’t in their budget. Not professional at all, and not how I run my business. No one is obligated to pay for a quote. And if you want payment for a quote… then get one. If you don’t, then that’s on you.
do you really believe the bottle picture and frag name would be in the first email to a person you never worked before???
but kylie’s team knew how much the cake would cost from the jump before they moved forward w the design. that’s the problem
@@karleeeveeeand why would anyone go for an expensive cake or know that this baker makes such cakes that can be expensive if you have a different budget? 🤔 And it says, before requesting anything, you have to check their menu, price chart etc.
Nah! She did the right thing, the Kardashians have a reputation for not paying the people that work for them (several lawsuits still going) so everyone needs to know what they might get if they decide to work for them. If she lost future clients those werent good clients.
The K’s always do this. They ask for a creator’s ideas and content as if they’re going to use it, only to steal it and sell it as their own.
Kylie really needs to be more involved, because whoever is making plans with people then canceling needs to be fired.
Kylie doesn’t give a shit about this, she only “reached out” because of the backlash to cover her ass.
@@ShearGenius88Did u even pay attention to the video? in the video she said Kylie never reaches out or speaks on issues with her launches she pretty much moves on without even addressing anything she only reached out this time pretty much because her perfume she didn’t even announce was leaked by cake girl
The cake girl wasn’t told yes for sure.
They didn’t cancel lol. This business owner took all this work upon themselves but Kylie’s team didn’t like it so they passed and now the owner is pissy.
That's not how business events work. An organising team gets a budget, one person reaches out to multiple vendors and only settles once the event organisers clears it. This obviously didn't clear, budget or they saw a design they liked and went with someone else who'd do it for cheaper. She should've gotten a deposit
If you don't have a contract, or have not mutually verbally agreed to go ahead for the work, I won't be blaming the client for backing out. It would mean a different thing though if you provided a complete design and ditched you and hired someone cheaper to do it for them. But it didn't happen so... never a fan of the Kardashians though.
I mean, yes, ask for a deposit. BUT. The Kardashians are sketchy in general and I have never understood the hype 😬
Yup, Kylie's team knows exactly what they are doing, and I'm curious how many other bakeries and businesses they've gotten free work and then said "not in the budget".
'Is the bakers fault; she should have asked for a deposit'- biiiiiiii STFU acting like communicating with a celebrities team is any way a normal occurrence.
The power dynamics are STRIKINGLY different, and with a 'team of creatives' uh uh, Shane on them!
As I said above, they know exactly what they are doing, gleaning free labor and saving the efforts for later- of small businesses.
If they liked it now, they'll like it in a month, and can hand it to someone willing to do it for free-- shitting on the person they stole or from, mind you.
Something about all of this really rubs me the wrong way, especially the early 2000s comig of age teen girl standing up to the principal monologue at the end. It absolutely sucks that they didn't go with her cake, but she shot herself in the foot by sharing emails like this.
So true, at the beginning I was so anti Kylie but at the end I think the baker caused more harm to their brand than what Kylie did. Yeah it sucks that she lost money and that Kylie the ‘billionaire’ couldn’t buy the cake (which was probably drops in a bucket), but this screams unprofessional to a different level
Exactly, she thought exposing would drive more traffic to her cakes but she just made herself look bad
Nah as professional baker Amy is 100% in the wrong. You don't ask for a deposit before discussing ideas and making mood boards, that's just a hit or miss thing and clients need to be informed and on the same page BEFORE they agree to book you. Kylie's team DID NOT confirm a booking, they made an enquiry and requested an inspo board for what was presumably going to be a very expensive cake (no doubt with the celebrity version of a wedding tax attached). Amy got ahead of herself and started working her schedule around an enquiry. They didn't ask her to cancel and reject orders to work exclusively on a cake for Kylie. The team was not obligated at all to proceed with the booking, not sure why Kylie is getting ripped a new one for this when most bakers would have enquiries almost daily from 'normal' people that don't end up booking and we don't go online berating those people... She also straight up leaked pics of Kylie's launch that were sent to her in confidence and in a professional exchange because she was butthurt and couldn't control herself, not professional at all.
- Not a Kylie fan, never bloody heard of this Amy woman, professional chef and baker
Edit - Jesus Christ and suggesting she should have literally blackmailed Kylie for 5k to remove the stories. Because that's what that is, blackmail. This is just so unprofessional and straight up entitled of her.
straight up
You're real for commenting this bc I didn't honestly see anything too wrong with Kylie's side other then the team could've specified better, idk.
The worst part is she actually leaked the perfume! Like I don't care for the potato perfume, but literally it was not announced! Yikes! That has to be a breach in confidentiality! Amy was def in the wrong here! I am a creater myself and I usually agree but this time she was in the wrong
You said it all perfectly
😭 imagine the customers orders she canceled watching all this. Paying customers should come first, at least get a deposit.
Unfortunately, I think Amy got too excited and forgot to do a contract/quote before working as hard as she could. NEVER do business with anyone unless there’s a contract of some sort- especially big companies.
The perfume bottle looks like a raisin 😂
😂😂
Why do people act like the marketing team won’t have a budget? It’s not coming out of Kyle’s personal pocket, it’s a company with limited capital and a business plan. Come on kids.
Not defending Kylie but it sounds like bad business practise on her side. Kylie team asked her for a quote, not a final order. If you stop all your orders that's not on you tho
Exactly
Call me a boomer if you want, I don't want to be rude but this family is superficial and I don't know what people saw on them 🤷🏻♀️
Entertainment
They saw a vagina 😂😂 the rest is history
you're not being rude, its the truth
Wow my comment got deleted super fast 😂
they saw the 🍑🍑🍑
I personally wouldn't work on something for someone until I get the payment. That family is known to be thieves and scammers. People get excited because it will get them exposure, but if they haven't paid anything then why stop business for them? Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
i love how that influencer sprays the perfume on for the first time ( apparently) and claims it will last all day. smh. dont trust any of these people.
Her review was so over the top acting, it made me cringe.
Agreed - at this point the majority of online content is advertising first and foremost
Every business has a budget. It's her own fault for not requiring a deposit. It just makes her look bad to put this company on blast when they had no obligation to purchase anything from her.
Yet they were getting services from her for free and knew for MONTHS what the budget was and declined last minute. She also told them what her prices were upfront when this whole thing started. Don't treat vendors like crap and expect to have all the privileges of a contract or NDA without having one.
exactly and the cake wasn’t anything too crazy, she should’ve required a deposit knowing the family, but also the bakery is located in brooklyn if i’m not mistaken, her cake was probably going to be over $1,000 and the cake design was simply not worth that + the travel feels and having to get flown out and constantly communicating with the bakery was probably too much, she probably found someone who could do the design who was in close range and cheaper, she eliminated so much stress by choosing someone else, why chose someone far away to bake a cake when someone close could do the same? yes she stole her idea but it wasn’t the most jaw dropping extravagant idea ever and they probably gave her an idea of what they wanted on the cake. idk this whole thing just seems like a bad business move, it could’ve been avoided if both party’s communicated more but things happen people need to get tf over it
@@Ashbrash1998man how was she treated like crap…just cuz they didn’t end up going with her.
@@Ashbrash1998 yes but unfortunately they’re not obligated to go through with her especially if no contract or deposit was made 🤷🏼♀️ it’s unfair but it’s her responsibility to make sure her time doesn’t get wasted unfortunately also they asked for a quote and not a final order so she really messed up by clearing her schedule too to fit one client. She had really bad business practice tbh and this says A LOT about her because you really can’t just automatically trust rich people they can be unreliable too so moving forward I hope she changes her policies.
@@Ashbrash1998that’s the vendors fault. She gave services for free and clients have a right to change their mind if there’s no contract.
It’s totally normal for clients to shop around and get mock-ups/quotes from different businesses before settling on one
In terms of business, I understand deciding to not move forward with getting an expensive cake just for the launch. Even if the person who owns The company is a billionaire, that doesn't require them to buy an expensive cake after getting the quote. Businesses should not make unnecessary expenses even if it's a successful business. Now, I do feel sympathetic for the cake owner because that must be frustrating but it's kind of on her for not getting a deposit or consultation fee and still doing work, or even getting a contract.
Exactly this!
exactly what i was thinking!
I've always heard rich people stay rich by being penny pinchers. Rich people are usually the worst tippers too.
To me, she made a huge mistake by getting swept up in the excitement of working with a big celebrity. Surely, she wouldn’t have treated the average customer as such (no written agreement, a free pitch, stopping all other orders). It seems like they just made an inquiry just as any of us would do at a local bakery and she took it as contracted work. I think it’s interesting that they couldn’t pay for the cake, but I guess that’s how businesses work- they set budgets even if they are lowballing.
Not having the funds for a cake as a BILLIONAIRE
The bottle looks cheap aswell
Watch the perfume be 100 bucks too
Girly, marketing teams and event planners have budgets for all these kinds of stuff. This isn't a personal birthday party that Kylie is throwing with her own personal money. If the cake was out of the events budget then it is. Doesn't matter if the owner of the company is a billionaire 🙄 how do people not understand the basics of event planning and marketing????
@@baneyney7002But it says you have to first check their pricing, sizing, menu etc. before requesting anything. If you are on a budget and see that their cakes are out of your budget, then don’t request anything
@@baneyney7002It says you have to first check their pricing, sizing, everything before requesting anything. If you are on a budget and see that something you are looking for is out of your budget, then don’t go further
@@baneyney7002It says you have to check their menu, price chart before requesting any cake. So prices are there, if it’s out of your budget then don’t request anything
Yeah sorry but this is all on the baker lmao i dont think people understand that businesses have budgets for things like their launch parties, promo videos, etc. Kylie could invest in her business for a cake but why would she when she doesnt need to have a super expensive cake for a launch party? The baker seems unprofessional imo and got excited too soon by clearing her schedule asap and making Kylie the only priority. Maybe next time she will ask for a budget from clients and charge for a quote
But didn’t they check how much these cakes cost though? Especially if she makes such cakes 🤔
@undertakerslaugh thats the whole point of her giving them a quote, to find out how much what they wanted would cost. Unless she charges a design fee, they were under no monetary obligation to her because it was just a quote.
@@joettacasey5750before requesting anything, it says you have to check their menu, pricing etc.
I work for a courier service and I got a call from someone for ask Kylie Cosmetics asking for a quote stating it was urgent and time sensitive and it has to be overnighted to Europe but as soon as they got the price the lady started to get all condescending saying they are a big company and we should get them better rates without having to open an account. Like…no, that is not how this works at all.
Good for you standing toes down in your business. These celebrities makes me sick with their entitled egos!
I would not be surprised if Kylie team paid the Baker, a significant amount of money to take the post down.
Probably the cost of the cake 🤣🤣🤣
She said that didn’t happen
@@Joejoyoyoyo honey you have yourself a wonderful day. 😘
@@srideout91girl hush. So condescending 😂
@@iampoofball honey no. But I think that you should take a break from CZcams. For you to get this set over a symbol comment is not normal. It’s clear that you are not in the right frame of mind. I hope you get a professional help you so desperately need. I will keep you in my prayers. Stay blessed and stay safe and have a wonderful week.😘
I understand where the business owner is coming from, but I do think that she was in the wrong here. Kylie's team didn't just ask for a quote. She initially tried to send them examples of pink cakes that she'd done in the past, but they didn't feel like that was good enough and asked for an actual design. At this point, it was the owner's responsibility to ask for a design fee. I get that she was eager to please them and didn't want to scare them off, but they were under no obligation to follow through with the design, and it wasn't their responsibility to offer money for the design fee and for her time. As much as it was embarrasingly cheap of billionaire Kylie's team to say that the cake was "out if their budget", in a purely business sense, they did nothing wrong. This is the kind of thing that you talk shit about with your friends over a glass of wine, not something that you do an expose about online. Now, other big brands are going to be afraid to work with her because they'll be worried about being dragged through the mud if they decide not to move forward with the design. Again, I understand why she was upset on a personal level, Kylie's team seems incredibly greedy and cheap, but this had no business showing up on her professional accounts.
I don't understand why she didn't ask for at least a budget... Start to design a cake without knowing how much someone is willing to pay is just a bad move, even if the client has money. You ask a budget and do a design around that budget, maybe if she did that the contract would be hers... And I'm only guessing, but maybe because Kylie have money she did a extra expensive design when they wanted something more budget friendly... But this part is only my guess...
@@ClaraClaiyeri feel like she probably saw this as her opportunity to sell a really expensive cake to “someone who has so much money they don’t care what they spend”. But she forgot that rich people care very much about money… that’s why they’re rich. She probably went all out with her design when they probably wanted something a bit more simple since it’s just a launch party. She also throws dozens of parties a year so imagine if she just went crazy with the budget every time she wouldn’t be a billionaire for much longer. I never thought I’d agree with Kylie on anything but here we are.
I agree 100%. Usually when I do inquiries and asking for examples, vendors would give me some ideas to move forward, they usually try to give me some design to please me. And then I'll ask for their quotation. If I can match them, I'll say yes, but if it's not it's totally okay. Some vendors will charge me some design fee for customized design pitches, but it's rare. Projects like this costs a lot so vendors usually tried their best to please clients. You just need to draw the line on design fees.
Cake maker was delulu fr. She even self invited herself to the potential release party smh.
I personally think that the baker was super unprofessional. First of all, she didn't Charge any deposit before doing all that work that she allegedly did. And then when Kylie's team denied her proposal,she leaked literally everything without their concession.. she could've got sued for what she did because Kylies team was not bound to accept her proposal by any means
She should ask for deposit or consultation fee. In design you often take consultation fee while making rough sketch/mood boards etc. as client can take them and use them somewhere else. In that situation you are still paid for what you did. Kylie still did copy her, but she played herslef for giving out her job for free. Also she did really bad bussiness moves with not taking any other clients becuase she thought she will have Kylie - until there's nothing in writing she should not do it. Another thing is that she kinda leaked Kylie's perfume, yes she did not sign NDA but there should be some kind of level of discression. She should have handle it differently.
It should be common knowledge to get deposits. If you’re a “successful” business owner how do you not know or implement a form of deposit into potential orders🤦🏻♀️
Sadly, I think Amy made the wrong move. Even if she was right, she should’ve just learned from the situation, changed her policies and moved on. Now celebrities might not want to work with her because of this. Exposing that information makes her look unprofessional.
Yes
That perfume review looks so fake, it almost feels like a parody. You need to wait quite a few seconds to fully let the scent settle in and also you can't say it'll last all day without actually wearing it for multiple hours💀
She wants to be on that PR list so bad
The whole thing was bad! The tik tok voice/accent sounded very fake and you’re right “it’s going to last all day” you don’t know that that yet!
I have been self-employed for years and I have to say that I have little sympathy for the baker. If you work without asking for money or having a contract, then it's possible that the customer will drop out and you'll have worked for nothing. It hurts and is disrespectful, but unfortunately that's the way it is :(
I don’t feel bad for amy they were asking for a quote and she got ahead of herself 🤷🏽♀️
“I spent hours making a deck for them without a deposit or dime” so its no ones fault but yours
Oh yes, blame the small business instead of billionaire Kylie Jenner lol. You sheep
I mean, it’s a bit naive to think that a brand as big as Kylie/Khy would consult with just one person/vendor for anyttthinnggg pertaining to the business, even event planning. Most companies would reach out to multiple vendors, in this case bakers, and narrow down their options based on pitches and pricing.
It takes working in corporate to understand what these due diligence practices look like, but that’s typically how it goes. It’s just not personal.
1. Ask for a deposit
2. Don’t clear your schedule and don’t make an inspo board or do any work until the client agrees to the price and pays a deposit
3. If steps 1 and 2 happen then you may feel free to blast them on social media
They did Amy SO dirty. Imagine how much money she lost by stopping all orders for Kylie. The KarJenners need to be stopped.
Edit: I don’t believe at all they “didn’t have” the funds.
Agree, I blame the people who made them famous because they are famous for literally nothing lol
What? No way she literally got ahead of her self. Sounds like a bad move on her side of business
Ummm did Kylie's team asked her to stop all of her orders? Let me know
@@Joanaiisabel89177 Exactly! Mhen like my ex boyfriend who would spend hundreds of dollars to buy their pictures and videos are the problem!
lowkey deserved ngl leaking messages and ruining business just because she got ahead of herself is just not it !
if she did it to a multimillionaire she will do it to small businesses and people on a low budget , tho KJ! not being able to accommodate is just embarrassing lol
So she basically wanted to extort Kylie to take down the story?! Billioner or not, it’s on her for not requiring a deposit. The campaign probably had a budget for everything, including the cake, and her price was over the budget.
Yeah, the way she nonchalantly toyed with the idea of asking for 5k to take down the post… not very cool
She didn't even ask for a budget, maybe if she did the contract would be hers. If I would have to guess she saw Kylie's name and did a expensive as hell design and then got pissed when they said it was out of their budget 😮
@@ClaraClaiyer yup, most likely overcharging and already benefiting by the publicity from posting the pics.
Billioner
I think the owner also needs to learn some ethics. If she's running her own business for quite sometime, she should know that not every inquiry will turn into a sale. I think what she did was super unprofessional. She should also respect the client's decision if they chose not to go with her services. It icked me when she said, she should've charged $5,000 from Kylie when they asked to take down her post. For what? Her cakes are gorgeous, but with an attitude like that, she might turn away potential customers in the future.
Yes Kylie maybe a billionaire but from a marketting point of view they all have budgets and so on. Nothing was written and set in stone and like the cake owner says she will learn.
Same as they recruit unpaid interns as personal assistants. They want cake free 😂
Idk maybe they just didn’t think the cake was worth the price? This doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.
Yes, Kylie and her team are AH for what they did. But the baker shouldnt have depended on this sale. There was a nail tech who refused to clear her schedule for Cardi B. Ppl thought she was crazy but she explained that all of her clients were loyal frequent customers and it would be wrong to cancel their appointments for 1 clkent shes not even sure will be frequent.
As a professional creative myself, I do feel for Amy however I am confused as to why she did the vision board BEFORE discussing price? Maybe she wanted to entice them with her ideas first. But if you do things that way around (especially with famous clients who are notoriously cheap/wanting A List stuff for less than Z List stuff in my own experience) then that is the risk you take. I learned the hard way to ALWAYS discuss price up front and get a deposit before spending ANY of my time, because exposure isn't worth dick except a bunch of likes which doesn't keep the lights on.
That being said, Kylie's team are idiots.
EDIT: Oh shit she's a Kiwi too?! Aue! My homegirl! Glad to hear it was all resolved.
The artist should have asked for a deposit before doing the work. You always need to have clear expectations for compensation. She got ahead of herself, but Kylie certainly has the $ to afford this artist.
Amy should've asked for a deposit, but it looks like Kylie only wanted a quota or something like that. I think Amy just got overly exited about working with a big client.
Also, there's NO WAY they didn't have money.
Though I feel kind of bad, this goes with the saying of “Don’t put your eggs in one basket”. She cancelled and limited potential orders without clear confirmation of making the cake so now she has to deal with the consequences.
Soo...Kylie's team contacted Amy about her designing a cake for them. Amy took the time to not schedule any appoints with other clients and invested in making a cake "blue print" for Kylie. Kylie's team decided that Amy's cake was not worth the price and rejected the blue print. Amy got pissed and trash talked Kylie on the internet. I think this is more on Amy for not accepting a deposit before hand and she should not be trash talking a potential client who changed their mind about doing business with her.
Just how much was she asking for this cake anyway? $10,000?
This reminds me of the Mikayla and the fake tan drama, Kylie is not obligated to work with this person. The baker should have asked for a deposit.
I swear I was gonna comment the same!
Honestly, this is bad business on the cake makers, and she only stopped taking orders because this was a celebrity client and I’m pretty sure she only raised her price because it was Kylie
I’m sure her team had already done the research on how much her cakes cost so when she sent them an invoice for an inflated amount, they didn’t want to pay it because that’s outlandish and then to come online and try to out somebody because you were doing not such good business, and you chose to put other orders on hold before having a down payment and contract signed someone just hit you up to inquire about a cake and you stopped everything that’s not very smart
is it just me or does that one photo of kylie w the flowers look taken out of kali uchis’ orquideas promo shoot ??
It's kinda weird they said it was out of their budget, but then again, they had no obligation to move forward so... kinda unfortunate
Did that lady really say she should have asked KJ for 5 grand? This is truly so ridiculous. If cake lady didn't ask for a deposit and went ahead making the cake and turning down other clients, that's on her! That's some bad business practices on top of her blowing up the situation publicly. Why would anyone work with her after this? It's unprofessional and should have been handled privately.
Nah Kylie Jenner is famous and supposedly extremely rich. These small businesses probably feel that this is a rich and famous person they’re not gonna stiff me. We haven’t learned from Trump and musk, who are in the business of stiffing businesses for and not paying them for their services. I would say that Kylie Jenner has some pretty bad business practices
just so annoyed and tired of this Kardashian and Jenner family - -
I think they are funny
Just 1 thought:
WHY were they surprised by the price of the cake?!
Didn’t they do some research beforehand, how much her cakes usually cost?!
Or did she massively up charge on that one?!
Entertaining as always!
Best wishes
First off… “beautiful bottle”??? It looks like a potato 🤣
Amy wanted her 15min of game slacked on loyal customers the moment she saw dollar signs and a famous name
I really wonder sometimes if people don't realize there's a team who are given an overall budget to work with. They're not using Kylie's personal money. It's through her company. This was probably just some interns who budgeted wrong. If they don't have the funds for a cake do you think they're going to go to Kylie and ask her to personally cover it? Hell no. They would just cancel the cake. Celebs don't oversee all these little things. That's not how any of that works. I don't understand the comments about how Kylie should be able to afford it.
this is a distraction from her ripping off Kali Uchis
Sorry, but the cake maker is in the wrong here.
Clients are allowed to get mock-ups and quotes from multiple businesses without commitment to follow through. It’s up to the business owner to charge for these mock-ups.
The budget issue is ABSOLUTE BS! This is what the KarJenners do. They ask for ideas, consultations, and content from a creator under the guise of using it for a new product, which would be great for the small business/creator. Then they turn around and say “thanks, but no, thanks,” steal the content, use it and package it as their own creation. I think that’s literally their business ethos at this point… and like everything else they do, it’ll sell out because we as consumers are sell outs…
When will these businesses learn that it’s not worth doing business with these money hungry grifters.
Kylie should have called her next perfume Karma
those perfume bottle drawings looked like a potato 🥔 😂
Quote my ass. They wouldn't send the name and the bottle picture in the first email. They went back and forth.
there is a 0% chance kylie’s team “didn’t have the funds”
Celebrity or not, you NEED a deposit for ANY work you do for clients, especially for consultations. She needs to make contracts and issue them out before starting any sort of service.
When i first saw the Cosmic marketing, I immediately thought of the Glossier perfume bottle and Kali Uchi's Orquideas alt vinyl cover.
Shouldn't Amy have given them an estimate of how much it would cost? Defo should have taken a deposit. Kylie's team was wrong for thak, but Amy probably should have taken more precautions. Sorry to her
I do agree that the team that reached out to her should've ask for the potential price and that the baker should've asked for a down payment. The perfume leak doesn't look too damaging because the design looks ugly to me but the fragrance does sound promising. Maybe the design was supposed to be like a prism of sorts but the first thing that came to mind was it looked like a sand filled stress toy that was squeezed hard by a little kid.
So she stopped taking orders because it was so extremely difficult to find pretty pictures and make a collage?
maybe a hot take but i think this is on yip studios or whatever, if the companies have certain budgets for events then that's that 🤷♀ it's her fault for clearing her schedule and not taking a deposit when they just wanted to inquire about a cake. she def got in her feelings and let it get messy for no reason
I've never been earlier before (time zone woes) 🎉
Can't believe cake"gate" is back thanks to the Kardashians
i don’t think she got ahead of herself. otherwise how else did she have unreleased information AND pictures of kylie’s perfume. i think the she was talking to kylie’s team and the info they gave her made her feel more safe/garunteed in the project and inclined to hold off waiting to be paid i don’t think she got ahead of herself.
If she voluntarily chose to hold off on receiving payment because she had a celebrity client, it’s 10000% on her that she didn’t get paid. She literally chose to do it and then bashed her client on social media for not paying her.
Idk I’m kinda torn ? I understand Amy’s side but it also seems like a basic inquiry. Also as far as her leaking her perfume name and stuff I’d say Amy needs to just let the situation go before it escalates. I can’t imagine other brands /companys would be impressed by her leaking brand products just cause they didn’t follow through with a booking 😬
okay but the perfume bottle is so ugly
You should talk about how Kylie’s Khy drop 004 ripped off an Australia brand named Johansen. Literally identical and johansen had hers released over 2 years ago. Her team just rips people off.
A ‘fragrant’ perfume? Groundbreaking.
“Don’t have the funds…”
That’s funny.
That bottle in my opinion is like a basic design. Like Kylie’s team could have done much better than this. like seriously that packaging looks like someone would get at the dollar store.
Sorry, but this is all on Amy. She went crazy because Kylie's team inquired about a cake. Amy did not ask for a damn deposit and started working for free. I think that she got too excited because she read Kardashian/Jenner. That is why you should NEVER be impressed by a name! Treat everyone equally. Had she treated Kylie's team like she treats the rest of her clients, none of this would have happened.
Imagine anyone involved with a Karjenner saying “lack of funds”🤣💀😭
Love the fake perfume review!! A typical tiktoker in town😂
I'm a perfume channel and aside from perfumes I get for the scent I also like to also collect perfumes for the bottle. And that bottle is hideous. My roommate says it shaped like a squished mango.
Bottle design looks like a drugstore cologne. 😂😂😂
Sadly, Amy's in the wrong on this one. She leaked a new product, cleared her schedule without an order, expected money for creating a deck, and felt entitled to exclusivity without a contract. It's also very unprofessional of her those Instagram stories. Just because Kylie's a billionaire doesn't mean her brand has the same resources, it doesn't work like that.
She put all of her real customers orders aside just because a celebrity gave an order. Normal people don't matter if a celebrity is involved. Also she gave her special threathment and didn't take a deposit from a rich person who can pay it easily. So unprofessional. She got what she deserved tbh.
Moral of the story: Don't give your designs and ideas to any Kar-Jenner unless you get paid upfront for them and a contract
That bottle is hideous.
That bottle looks like a freaking potato 😂
As for this drama. I feel like yes, Amy should have gotten something in writing as everyone should!
But on the other side, Kylie's team didn't get anything in writing either so Amy was free to say and show what she wanted. And for them to copy her cake and design is clear that they were using her and her creativity so I have no issue with how she reacted.
of course they didnt want to pay for it, they think that since they are kylie jenner that things get handed to her. its how she was raised.
It’s the last post of hers that really rubs me the wrong way, when she says maybe she should of asked for 5k and that she’s scared of what they can do. Really weird and unprofessional. Don’t respect that mindset. But if a victim mentality, and acting like she should of charged purely cos kylie is rich. Yeah, they went about things wrong slightly, but she comes off worse in the end tbh.
GIRL CAN SHE STAWP