Hardtail Vs Trail Bike | Which Mountain Bike Is Better?

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 23. 01. 2021
  • What is better for everyday riding? A full suspension trail bike or a hardcore hardtail? Blake Samson and Rich Payne are back to put the two most common styles of mountain bike to the test! From fire road climbs to downhill sections and even ride a pump track! đŸ€˜
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  • @massiveattackdrop
    @massiveattackdrop Pƙed 3 lety +1549

    I love my hardtail. I would like to have a trail bike. There is another barrier to trail bikes...the price.

    • @alexc3116
      @alexc3116 Pƙed 3 lety +13

      If u use the bike to work scheme the new boardmans can be a cheaper entry

    • @dave_xc
      @dave_xc Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Xc could be funny too

    • @tobiasscholl8692
      @tobiasscholl8692 Pƙed 3 lety +19

      Look for trail hardtails.... canyon and nukeproof have some

    • @russelltaylor1500
      @russelltaylor1500 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Calibre triple b or bosnut are good entries

    • @dave_xc
      @dave_xc Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @@tobiasscholl8692 trek is good too

  • @stforksandadream1985
    @stforksandadream1985 Pƙed 3 lety +704

    You can tell it’s going to be a good one cos Blake is on a hardtail

    • @MTBYannick
      @MTBYannick Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Should have taken the rigid tho😁

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

    • @ridingwithpat7251
      @ridingwithpat7251 Pƙed 3 lety

      Ofc

    • @velocgee2874
      @velocgee2874 Pƙed 3 lety

      What, really? that ‘too effing slow’ Blake?!!
      😀
      (What a proper a-hole that guy was)

    • @muhdhidir1983
      @muhdhidir1983 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@starkovscode MotoGPMotoGPMotoGP QA QC

  • @rizqiramadhan2869
    @rizqiramadhan2869 Pƙed 3 lety +403

    i would sign a petition to bring hardtails week back,

    • @nathanb101
      @nathanb101 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      This really needs to be a thing again

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

    • @nathanb101
      @nathanb101 Pƙed 3 lety +13

      @@starkovscode nah man TikTok is for hipsters and cucks

  • @rosthouse
    @rosthouse Pƙed 2 lety +171

    I love how it's always super competitive with these guys and at the end it's "There is no right bike, only the one suited for yourself. Have fun!"

  • @its_nygl1568
    @its_nygl1568 Pƙed 3 lety +748

    Who here is team Blake?

  • @maciek9109
    @maciek9109 Pƙed 3 lety +181

    Blake is the reason why my next bike will be a hardtail again :D

    • @BlakeSamson8
      @BlakeSamson8 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      YES DUDE. So much fun

    • @oscar7322
      @oscar7322 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      He is a semi-pro biker. Normal riders are going to get a best performance from a FS bike.

    • @mindezz
      @mindezz Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Either you can't afford it, or never ridden FS bike. Also obviously if you ride easy trails then there is no need for FS. But having FS will never hold you back from riding 💯 on any trails.

  • @MT-wn6pl
    @MT-wn6pl Pƙed 3 lety +83

    This is my hardtail/full sys take. I loved my Raliegh Tokul hardtail. I had it for years and beat the crap out of that bike. I'm 240 lbs and that bike took me through everything, I went through tubes and rims haha, that's about it. It reminded me of my old skool BMX days, I felt confident on it, I knew what the back end was going to do everytime. I normally rode street and light allyway trails for YEARS. I didn't really have a riding buddy so I just kept it local, and for me, that was mostly to and from street stuff with the occasional trail. But I DID harp on it.
    Last year I got a camper, and so we started going to other places that were more "trail oriented"....and for a longer amount of time. Two days of riding trail vs maybe an hour of city riding on my hardtail previously. I have an old lower back injury from college football, plus like most hardtail guys, I was super curious of the full sus setups, but the thing holding me back was price. I finally got ahead enough to purchase a full suspension Giant Trance at my LBS. It's so much easier on my back, I instantly could ride for HOURS longer in the trails when we went camping and I had a riding buddy. It does take some getting used too, but if you have any kind of back injury or are older than 25, you would benefit in this area.
    To sum it up, and this is just my opinion. If you are younger and an aggressive rider that likes air (possibly coming from a BMX background like me), keep your hardtail and know you won't get much benefit out of a full sys, actually you will probably regress. If you don't have that many riding buddies....you probably won't be riding long enough sessions to truly justify the cost either. We all know the larger the group, the longer you are out there! But on the other hand if you are older than 25 (I'm 33) and/or possibly have a back injury of sorts, a full suspension bike will serve you tremendously, regardless of how much you ride. Also, if you do have a lot of riding buddies and go out several times a week, I do think a full sys may be the option to keep you going longer. Also, if you're just the weekend warrior, and maybe dust the bike off in the spring to go out and ride once or twice a month, keep the hardtail regardless of age, you simply won't use it enough to really see any benefit listed above.
    I think full suspension bikes were created to keep us older dudes as relevant as we were when we were younger smashing the hardtails. They keep us on the trail as long as a 23 year old me on a hardtail. They are also created for that niche, special rider, crowd that, regardless of age is riding for a living or something and can justify buying, maintaining, hauling around, and switching out both types. This also doesn't apply to the uber rich guys and gals who, frankly, it doesn't hurt their pocketbook as much to have a bunch of bikes regardless of how much it costs. But neither of the above are my position, and I understand yall might be in a different position.

    • @mofreeman1
      @mofreeman1 Pƙed rokem +2

      Realllly appreciate this take! I'm currently about to buy an ebike and I'm torn between hardtail and full suspension. I do have a back issue and a knee issue from time to time, so your opinion was really helpful. I see the main difference in price seems to be the additional full suspension. Initially, I was looking for a hybrid back to where I can ride on streets and trails. So, I had to decide, what kind of rider do I wanna be? So, I will use this to get in shape, explore, and most importantly have fun! I plan on using the bike several times a week, and may even explore riding it to work daily, thru minor trails, depending on weather. With mountain bikes, especially the extra weight with an ebike, I wasn't sure if I wanted to deal with the weight. However, I think that extra suspension is the absolute game changer. Thanks for your advice!

    • @massiveantnz
      @massiveantnz Pƙed rokem +2

      Thanks for your insight, it was more helpful than the actual video 👍

    • @MysticalDragon73
      @MysticalDragon73 Pƙed rokem

      Thanks for such a great breakdown. I used to ride in college and miss it at times. now at 49 i'm looking to get back into it and the changes are amazing. I'm one of those casual riders that mostly sticks to paths/roads but wants the option to do trails if I find them. Like the other commenter, your breakdown was better than the video. Thank you for that.

    • @MysticalDragon73
      @MysticalDragon73 Pƙed rokem

      @@massiveantnz i agree totally. the video left me meh other than seeing pros and cons to each.

  • @erikaslt
    @erikaslt Pƙed 2 lety +28

    I have both. Depending on my mood. I pick up either the hard tail or the full suspension. Hard tail will out climb the full suspension and possibly on some jumps. The full suspension is amazing on technical long down hill trails. The hard tail is used less energy to pedal. Like I said, to each is own and each bike has its pros and cons. Quick edit, the hard tail will climb better on a rooted area. As you will less likely get pedal strikes.

  • @jean-philipper-m5886
    @jean-philipper-m5886 Pƙed 2 lety +100

    I own an hardtail and thought it was limiting my ride. Was thinking of switching to trail or Enduro but since I've seen all the stuff Blake can do with an hardtail I now know that's is definitely not my hardtail that limiting my ride hehe!! Thanks Blake for that!!

    • @akaraikiriakatsuki3157
      @akaraikiriakatsuki3157 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      They say it's never the bike.

    • @Durwood71
      @Durwood71 Pƙed rokem +3

      Celebrated photographer Ansel Adams once said, "The most important part of a camera is the six inches behind it." If Adams was a mountain biker, he might have said, "The most important part of a bike is whose butt is on the saddle." I think it's safe to say that no matter the bike, the majority of them are far more capable than the people riding them.

  • @58slugbug
    @58slugbug Pƙed 3 lety +158

    I love the sketchy-ness the hardtails bring hardtail for the win everytime.

    • @luisguevara4113
      @luisguevara4113 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      I love my hardtail as well, but in some trails I almost come off my seat and my feet jump off my pedals due to the rough terrain. Is this an issue with my riding position, maybe I need with a hard tail I just need to go much slower or do I just need to get a full suspension?/ has this happened to you?

    • @thelonecouriergaming
      @thelonecouriergaming Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@luisguevara4113 I’ve had this happen to me a lot and it’s down to a lot of things. Tubeless helps a lot, nice grippy shoes(or clipped in would solve this problem!) Pedals with some healthy sized pins helps out a lot, I had these Burgtec pedals and they were missing some pins and my feet would blow off a lot, this was a combination of the pedals and the shoes I was wearing were years old and had hardened up a lot, you’d be better getting yourself some nice new pedals(or just pins) and better shoes, could always lower your tyre psi’s if you’re riding tubeless, Hope this helps mate. We all know how scary it can be to have both feet blow off the pedals simultaneously but trust me you can 100% batter through a choppy set of roots and rocks if you have the right set up.

    • @ph-vf5hx
      @ph-vf5hx Pƙed 3 lety

      There is obviously a limit. You cant ride through a section of big roots/rocks at full speed on a hardtail (like on a dh bike). You have to pick a better line and learn how to flow with the trail properly

    • @thelonecouriergaming
      @thelonecouriergaming Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@ph-vf5hx You can’t reasonably expect to do it at full speed, but you could try it if you’re no concerned about the condition of your knees and wrists😂 It’s weird because I can go just as fast on my HT as I can my Full suspension on a trail, judging by Strava times but no doubt if you were to do splits like a WC DH race then I’d be faster through certain sections on the FS and vice versa with the HT.

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@luisguevara4113 First of all, what are you doing on your seat on a trail anyway? Second, have you heard of clip-ins?

  • @rileyvonbevern4652
    @rileyvonbevern4652 Pƙed 3 lety +101

    This should be renamed "Why all you beautiful people maybe over biked!"

  • @garmenacantilado8831
    @garmenacantilado8831 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Just bought my first bike I’m 30 my son is 8 we are having a lot of fun riding into to us ,unknown trails and witnessing. The intense time and sweat riders put in for a smile on the dial

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 Pƙed 2 lety

      Dad and kid riding is the best. He is going to remember this when he is older.
      Ride safe, have fun.
      : )

    • @TonyPuleo1
      @TonyPuleo1 Pƙed 2 lety

      Awesome đŸ˜ŽđŸ€™đŸœ

  • @80nodrog
    @80nodrog Pƙed 3 lety +36

    I've got full squish rig aswell, but my hardtail gives me a bigger smile each time i ride it.

    • @80nodrog
      @80nodrog Pƙed 3 lety +1

      150mm on the front of a Commencal Meta HT

    • @oscar7322
      @oscar7322 Pƙed 3 lety

      Could you tell me why?

    • @80nodrog
      @80nodrog Pƙed 3 lety +1

      A hardtail makes basic trails a challenge, but when you take it down a fast flow, techy trail thats the party starts.

  • @dieseldavedick
    @dieseldavedick Pƙed 3 lety +17

    Love my hardtail. Its a reset everytime I ride it, like it cleanses my soul and mind

  • @FARTstudios502
    @FARTstudios502 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Name a more iconic duo.
    This video just had me smiling all the way through ❀

  • @DK-wr9nd
    @DK-wr9nd Pƙed 3 lety +8

    I started mountain biking 2 years ago and really like my Chromag Stylus hardtail, but I am getting a mid-travel 27.5 trail bike. You can ride almost 95% of trails with a hardtail, but in most of the cases, it is slower downhill and offers less margin of error.I learned a lot on my hardtail, but aggressive hardtails are likely to shine more as second bike for highly skilled riders.

  • @domfluin1819
    @domfluin1819 Pƙed 3 lety +41

    Love my hardtail. So much, I just sold my full suss to help fund my second hardtail. Just fun to ride.

    • @ibby81ae
      @ibby81ae Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Seriously? I wasn't sure if I should upgrade my entry lvl hardtail for a entry lvl full suspension or a aggressive hardtail for almost the same price????

    • @domfluin1819
      @domfluin1819 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@ibby81ae Everyone is different, but for me it made sense. I’ve an Stanton Switch9er and an Orange Crush. Both aggressive HT, but I do enjoy the challenge of riding an HT as you have to be more precise and they are less forgiving. Sometimes with a full suss you have ‘get away’ with just ploughing through. I do also believe in the saying that I’ve read on more than one occasion that you are better off with a good HT than a poor full suss. 👍

    • @ibby81ae
      @ibby81ae Pƙed 2 lety

      @@domfluin1819 hardtail it is thanks.👍

    • @domfluin1819
      @domfluin1819 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@ibby81ae Just my opinion, but glad to help. I hope you enjoy whatever you get 👍

  • @MrMegaPerez
    @MrMegaPerez Pƙed 3 lety +59

    I have a hardtail trail bike with 27,5 + size tires and I’m very happy with it :)
    (Treck Roscoe 7)

    • @andor_yoko
      @andor_yoko Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Got the same bike :D

    • @Rsul19969
      @Rsul19969 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Trek Roscoe 7 are amazing I have one couldn't fault in the slightest

    • @jrsuk1170
      @jrsuk1170 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I had one too, the black one, I think it was 7. I wish I hadn't sold it.

    • @benjaminirvine5097
      @benjaminirvine5097 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      I just got that bike today and I’m loving it

    • @MrMegaPerez
      @MrMegaPerez Pƙed 3 lety

      @@benjaminirvine5097 congratulations! You will have a lot of fun with it :)

  • @LuckyJack99
    @LuckyJack99 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Always a great time with the GMBN crew - love the hardtail content mates as that’s my fav.

  • @hollibrooks2652
    @hollibrooks2652 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I love my hardtail !! Got a Marin San Quentin 3 2019 with upgrades. Went out today for a street ride and still had the best time đŸ€™đŸ»

  • @olliedickason3248
    @olliedickason3248 Pƙed 3 lety +12

    i was literally thinking about this yesterday evening thank you so much

  • @mrshaneyt4356
    @mrshaneyt4356 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Love watching these 2 guys together . So many smiles per minute

  • @mr26ss
    @mr26ss Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Wonderful content to see on a Sunday morning, top notch riding, top notch filming, and top notch accent. Great job guys!

  • @sickmak90
    @sickmak90 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    I really like the way a hardtail climbs and handles. A hardtail with good geo and aggressive tires is plenty of bike.

  • @adammikesaliasfreshprince4124
    @adammikesaliasfreshprince4124 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    I build my custom hardtail and itÂŽs amazing guys, I totaly understand why Blake loves hardtails so much :) .

  • @corentinoger
    @corentinoger Pƙed 2 lety +6

    For the rest of us, rear suspension gives you confidence in technical downhill. Blake has enough of it already.
    He did say that riding the Megavalanche on a hard tail was a bad idea, though!

  • @ABeyers87
    @ABeyers87 Pƙed 3 lety

    Just started riding, bought myself a fresh hardtail! (Kona Kahuna - 2 more weeks waiting)
    Enjoying @gmbn's content and blake's hardtail enthousiasm for now!
    Love the shows, keep it up!
    (greets from Belgium)

  • @DrewJ79
    @DrewJ79 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I just recently bought the Canyon Stoic 4 and it's a great Hardtail, I love this bike!

  • @wesr1409
    @wesr1409 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    I have one of each and my hardtail is easily what I reach for most often. Its just fun and more capable than most seem to think.

  • @Mel1175
    @Mel1175 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Hi lads . I ride a ht while my son has a full susser we always challenge each other . But all in good fun and that’s what getting out on mtb is all about having fun trying to improve. Best sport ever !

  • @666psicko
    @666psicko Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I have a '21 commencal meta HT. It is amazing. Gives me a lot of confidence compared to my old hardtail.

  • @luap1983
    @luap1983 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Just brought a Ragley big al after having a FS for years, and got to say I love it, better than I thought it would be and it’s more than enough for the riding I do.

  • @mikecole1827
    @mikecole1827 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Great vid guys, ive just gone from riding a 20 year old barracuda oblivion full sus to a hardtail boardman comp 650b, i have to say the hardtail wins hands down for me atm

  • @najved
    @najved Pƙed 3 lety +26

    Hardtails are cheaper and easier to maintain, more nimble and therefore good fun
    👇
    Trail bikes are usually more expensive and harder to maintain since there are more parts, since they have full-Suspension they offer a smother ride ....
    You should get a bike that you like and will have the most fun on, but a more expensive bike i not always better
    Hi GMBN

    • @mattiethomson
      @mattiethomson Pƙed 3 lety +1

      You can go faster on a full sus no arguement otherwise enduro and downhill would use hartails

    • @trailonfire8581
      @trailonfire8581 Pƙed 3 lety

      I bought a long travel trail bike.

    • @moron_with_a_voron
      @moron_with_a_voron Pƙed 3 lety

      in the alps you certenly will have more fun on the fs , the hardtale gets wayyyyyy to many flats in the rear, that said i have bothe (2500€ 150/140mm 27.5 fs &1200€ 130mm 29er ht ) and i love both and especially the diversity between them .
      and the two bikes are certanly better than a 3700€ do it all bike , budget4life

    • @najved
      @najved Pƙed 3 lety

      I live in europe so i got a cube reaction tm 2021 model

    • @moron_with_a_voron
      @moron_with_a_voron Pƙed 3 lety

      @@najved not my pick, i live in austria and got a vitus escarpe vr2019 and a radon cragger

  • @uhhFez
    @uhhFez Pƙed rokem

    You guys do such a good job capturing the FUN aspect of it all!

  • @fatrabbit32
    @fatrabbit32 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I’ve been riding a hard tail (Trek Roscoe 7) for several years. Considering a full suspension bike but can’t justify the price for a good model right now. Love your videos...keep it going!

    • @SongJiangShiJin
      @SongJiangShiJin Pƙed rokem

      The ghost Kato fs universal is an affordable entry fully

  • @thisoldbelair
    @thisoldbelair Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Hardtail here đŸ€˜ love my Scout

  • @garethlewis3496
    @garethlewis3496 Pƙed 3 lety +14

    Hell yessss HARDTAIL all the way đŸ€˜đŸŒ
    Love this content on what a HARDTAIL can actually do!!!!

  • @stefang.2937
    @stefang.2937 Pƙed rokem

    HT are absolutely perfect. I am riding a Nukeproof Scout 290 V3 and it puts a smile on my face every time I am on the trail.

  • @GTM1906
    @GTM1906 Pƙed 3 lety

    I fell in love with that Scout 275

  • @tomsawyer502
    @tomsawyer502 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Great Video, Love the fight of Hardtail vs Fully đŸ€˜đŸ˜ƒ
    I do have two bikes to have a high range of applications.
    Hardtail with a modern Trail/Tour geometry. 120mm Fox34, 4 Piston Brakes, Dropper Seat post, Trail Tires.
    Hardtail is a really nice kind of biking. with a Hardtail you really do ride a pure Bike.
    Then I just received my new Enduro. Which is still efficient for climbing. But obviously it is for Enduro and Bike Park.
    Amazing combination of two bikes.

  • @sebastianeigner9461
    @sebastianeigner9461 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    I am a 100% with Blake on this one - build both, ridden both and back to my trusty old hardtail - so I have to say I went with a carbon frame on the last build, 29 inch wheels (Mavic DeeMax), XT 1x12 drive train, 4 pods brakes front and rear and a 200mm dropper post - it‘s a dream to ride in all terrain ..... đŸ€—â€ïž

  • @Consolethumbs
    @Consolethumbs Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I’m still riding my 1993 Rockhopper at my local trails I love when they look at me with there stump jumpers like I’m crazy. This bike still gets down currently saving for a Specialized Fuse Expert to finally make a big jump up.

  • @DPWebb79
    @DPWebb79 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Defo with Blake on this one, cut my teeth on hard tails back in the 90’s, own a couple of full suspension bikes over the years, (trance & anthem) but have fallen in love with MTB again back on a rather capable Vitus Rapide

  • @johngraham6506
    @johngraham6506 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Hardtail plus...Cannondale Beast of the East 1. Sold my full suspension and went back to hardtail. Love the weight reduction and while the back is more lively, I have more fun! (Plus, fewer parts to maintain)

  • @euandallimore8253
    @euandallimore8253 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Love your content boys keep it up

  • @rfusco9251
    @rfusco9251 Pƙed 3 lety

    I'm on a 2018 Santa Cruz Chameleon and I love it!! Thinking of stepping up to full sus this year but I would love to buy a Yeti ARC and blow everyone's minds with another hardtail which would be on another level. We'll see.

  • @kaedeschulz5422
    @kaedeschulz5422 Pƙed 3 lety

    I'm riding an Aggressive Hardtail and i LOVE IT!😍 But i'm aiming to get a Ragley Mmmbop frame this year to be able to run plus size tires for a bit of extra squish and traction and maybe the frame will have a bit more flex than the one i have at the moment.
    As always loads of fun watching you guys. Can't wait to get my Bike and gear sorted out and go riding again đŸ€©

  • @bikesnmore
    @bikesnmore Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Hardtail with 140mm on front. Does everything you could want at the right price.

  • @passey1269
    @passey1269 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I currently have a “super enduro” and a hard tail and love them both wouldn’t trade ether or

  • @bghettogurl08
    @bghettogurl08 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    That CZcams algorithm came through during this pandemic and I went out and got myself a 2021 Trek Marlin 7. Loving the hardtail!

  • @susanavalido6744
    @susanavalido6744 Pƙed 3 lety

    Team hardtail, here!
    I have a Cube access ws c62, really an amazing bike.
    Thanks Blake, I really enjoy your videos!

  • @ski_mtb_coach
    @ski_mtb_coach Pƙed 3 lety +7

    I ride a 29" hardtail!

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Pƙed 3 lety +8

    To me it looks like your both having a great time.....so i geuss it doesn't really matter what you ride just as long as it's fun, 30 years ago suspension was none existent & yet we still smashed all decents no matter how crazy they were.

    • @susanavalido6744
      @susanavalido6744 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Right! I started mountain biking, back on the 80's, on a road bike with an yamaha DT handlebar! 😄😁😁

  • @REAPER-1xxx
    @REAPER-1xxx Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I ride a XC hardtail and a gravel road bike. I think between these two the most amount of variety and uses are covered. All but the extreme ends of cycling can be done. Also summer and winter bike.

  • @Eight_Nine_G
    @Eight_Nine_G Pƙed 3 lety

    Got a nukeproof scout myself. Love it. Planning on upgrading to either a reactor or a mega next year.

  • @kuro_chan763
    @kuro_chan763 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I have a hardtail for my xc and a trail bike for you know, trials. I just use my hardtail when I'm goin biking with some friends that also have a hardtail and my fullsus for my solo trail rides.

  • @tommyestrada6464
    @tommyestrada6464 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    I have both, and enjoy both, but sometimes I think the extra maintenance and setup of the rear suspension is a hassle and question if it's really worth it especially where I live.

  • @greeneggpants
    @greeneggpants Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Wow, what a way to compare. 2 minutes in, and adore you both as riders and content creators. Very creative way to breakdown the difference between ht/st

  • @rotemshrem9116
    @rotemshrem9116 Pƙed 3 lety

    Definitely going with a HARDTAIL, and absolutely LOVE my Specialized Fuse 27.5

  • @mtb_dirtworx_sa
    @mtb_dirtworx_sa Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Would we love hardtails of Blake was on the trails bike....
    Hardtails are the best, and the GMBN team are simply just awesome.
    Blake and Rich you guys put a great show together no matter what!!

    • @BlakeSamson8
      @BlakeSamson8 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Thanks dude. I Think the love for the Hardtail will always be strong

    • @mtb_dirtworx_sa
      @mtb_dirtworx_sa Pƙed 3 lety

      @@BlakeSamson8 Me2 owned 6 hardtails in my life. Would be a dream to ride with you and the team some day.

  • @shaggadellick
    @shaggadellick Pƙed 3 lety +4

    I have a hardtail and love riding it! Definitely a favorite bike of mine. I also have a trail bike and a race fullsus that i use in mountainous areas, especially technical routes (abroad). I myself live in the Netherlands where we have no mountains.

    • @Wdevries
      @Wdevries Pƙed 2 lety

      Cool! Voor een parcours als Schoorl of Amerongen, heeft de trail of hardtail dan jouw voorkeur?

    • @shaggadellick
      @shaggadellick Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Wdevries Dan gebruik ik mijn Scott Spark 100 mm travel. Amerongen en Nijmegen zijn routes die ik graag fiets. De Loonse en Drunense Duinen is mijn thuisbasis. Mijn hardtail gebruik ik helaas door fysieke ongemakken niet meer off-road maar meer op de weg.

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie Pƙed 3 lety

    well, I was going to get a hardtail but I fell in love with a Kona Process

  • @wizaxed
    @wizaxed Pƙed 3 lety

    Just got a new Kona Big Honzo DL. 27.5+. I upgraded from my last mountain bike. It was a 1991 GT Talera. I bought it new and still ride it on paved trails. My Kona will be off road only. Can't wait for warm weather!!!

  • @eric9432
    @eric9432 Pƙed 2 lety +11

    I use to love hardtails but FS bikes are just so good nowadays I can't imagine going back. Every time I hop on a hardtail I have fun for a bit but doesn't take long and I want my fill squish back.

  • @kylejohnson357
    @kylejohnson357 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    I’ve got a hard tail and a light enduro build. Built them both from scratch. Have to admit that my hard tail is my favorite.

  • @secretplanet6393
    @secretplanet6393 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I still have a rigid steel Schwinn MTB from the early '90's. It hasn't been ridden much over the last 20 years, but has served me well. I'm getting back into riding with friends and my son now. I bought a couple Giant Talon 2 29er hardtails and we love 'em. It took some time to get used to the front sus, disc brakes and big ass tires, though.

    • @viperdemonz-jenkins
      @viperdemonz-jenkins Pƙed 2 lety +1

      giant talon is a great bike have a 2014 talon but not a 29er.

  • @jonundercover
    @jonundercover Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I love my hardtail but after a few years of having no full suss I’ve just ordered a Propain Hugene, I can’t wait. Will keep my hardtail though it rips !

  • @hunterbromley8761
    @hunterbromley8761 Pƙed 3 lety +21

    Great video! My only complaint is that the bikes were not the same wheel size: 27.5 and 29. The pump challenge is going to be affected by this, the the roll over is going to feel much better on the 29”. Uphill acceleration is going to be better on the 27.5. So it wasn’t exactly hard tail vs trail.

  • @sarabrown2082
    @sarabrown2082 Pƙed 3 lety +20

    I thought my full rigid from the 90’s was a trail bike

    • @vanle8189
      @vanle8189 Pƙed 2 lety

      Yeah I got a 24 year old GT aggressor. Wouldn't compete with these blokes but still a nice and tight frame

  • @laurynasjagelo5075
    @laurynasjagelo5075 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    While I owe a FS trailbike now, Hardtail is the bike that took me everywhere - rough or mellow, mountains or flats - always puts a grin on my face regardless what i'm riding. It's the best teacher and a loyal companion. Everyone should have one.

  • @Wrangzilla
    @Wrangzilla Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Ordered that exact Scout Pro yesterday. Can’t wait to get it...

  • @steveoutdoors5964
    @steveoutdoors5964 Pƙed 3 lety +10

    Love a hard tail. Currently have an old trek 4300. But tomorrow my new bike will arrive. Bagged myself a Vitus sentier 27 vr, cant wait......😁😁😁😁

    • @ronaldeccles4141
      @ronaldeccles4141 Pƙed 3 lety

      Hard

    • @666psicko
      @666psicko Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Congrats. I went from a 98 cannondale f400 to a 21 commencal meta HT. Light years difference.

  • @ripapa6355
    @ripapa6355 Pƙed 3 lety +19

    It's nice when vids like this remind us how dorky it looks when we're sitting and pedaling in low gear.

    • @paulbush724
      @paulbush724 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Sounds like you want to go single speed

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      @@paulbush724 Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

  • @andydavidson4213
    @andydavidson4213 Pƙed 3 lety

    The last 3 years i have been riding a steel Ns Eccentric . Tested a few full sus trail bikes for racing but love the Ns so much that i had a custom Ti Hardtail frame built exactly the same as the Ns with an alteration to the chainstays so that i can run a 34t ring up front .

  • @vashumashu4359
    @vashumashu4359 Pƙed rokem

    Watching him rip the hardtail is inspiring. The arm pump can be aggressive, but I love single speed hard tail mountaineering

  • @RichardBremer
    @RichardBremer Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I love riding my (almost) vintage Trek Top Fuel. Well, untill I ripped a tendon partly by sliding out in the mud with my bike. Ouch... Hope to be able to ride again soon. Before that I used to ride a cheap Trek XXL hardtail with which I had loads of fun until I broke an axil... I will be looking into a new bike in 2022 though, that's a little bit bigger (XXL) with a slightly more modern geometry. On this bike I sometimes feel like going over the bars on certain parts.
    Hardtail or fully? I like having grip, and I am not big on going as fast as I can. I like enjoying my surroundings. So I will go fully again on my next bike. Currently looking into the Trek Fuel EX 7/8 or the Santa Cruz Hightower or the Tallboy. But then again, first need to get that shoulder fixed and get the needed euro's saved. These bikes are not cheap!

  • @Retro-Sprocket
    @Retro-Sprocket Pƙed 3 lety +41

    “Whereas you were like a bush pig” 😂

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

  • @Garlor
    @Garlor Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Awesome comparison gentlemen, I ride an old school hardtail Cannondale F600, which has been modernized with tubeless wheels, disc brakes, short stem, Marzocchi 120mm fork, and wide bars. ( big difference )

  • @Titot182
    @Titot182 Pƙed 3 lety

    So glad to have these trails 10 minutes away from home. Corkscrew & sheepskull on my Dartmoor Primal was sketchy jokes, but would much rather take my Mega any day of the week!

  • @FranciscoHenriques
    @FranciscoHenriques Pƙed 3 lety +30

    Hardtail laughs in uphill.

  • @benfulford3943
    @benfulford3943 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I have both and love them both. I have hit some pretty gnarly trails on my hard tail but it is easier and more comfortable doing it on my trail bike. Having that extra travels gives me more confidence to go for things I wouldn't go for on my hardtail and can help get me out of any sticky situations. Means I ride my trail bike more but it is horrible on a pump track

    • @StreetzTK
      @StreetzTK Pƙed 2 lety

      I’m stuck on what to get, haibike 3.0 or the Whyte 505 hard tail. 4300 vs 3600.
      Can you lock the suspension on full sus mate? And also are they actually harder to maintain/repair ? Thanks đŸ‘đŸŒ

  • @stephengraham6194
    @stephengraham6194 Pƙed 3 lety

    Had a Vitus Sommet, tortured with pivot bearings and then cracked the frame, have a Nukeproof Scout now with 160mm up front and love it!!

  • @alexisastrie
    @alexisastrie Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Note to the Editors: Thank you for the sick music!!! very good choices!

  • @markleaney2631
    @markleaney2631 Pƙed 3 lety +23

    I have enduro, hardtail, road bike

    • @TonyPuleo1
      @TonyPuleo1 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      You are covered

    • @JJH-jc1fg
      @JJH-jc1fg Pƙed 3 lety

      You know what’s up

    • @MrHockaluger
      @MrHockaluger Pƙed 3 lety

      Yup. Have a road bike and enduro already. Hardtail on order.

    • @bensuttor9669
      @bensuttor9669 Pƙed 3 lety

      Enduro, hardtail, single speed hardtail

    • @RLSteffler
      @RLSteffler Pƙed 3 lety

      Good variety 👍 downhill, full sus trail ×2, hardtail DJ, hardtail beater, '80s steel road bike here

  • @mikes4163
    @mikes4163 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I had a hardtail but changed to full-sus for comfort. I'm neither good enough at, or generally do, the sort of riding that would make one better than the other for me in terms of performance.
    My local riding area seems to be mainly corrugated surfaces (atm some are deep mud but come summer they will set into plain rough) and my old bones and teeth just can't take hours of being rattled.

  • @SteelR4t
    @SteelR4t Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Regardless of the actual result of this, that was an absolute stonker of a video. Blake and Rich doin' what they do best.
    Who else wants to go ride their bike after watching that?

  • @singhson1061
    @singhson1061 Pƙed 2 lety +13

    Just got into MTBing about a month ago. Started out with a used bike and then bought a Norco Storm. It's a HT and I'm still getting used to the bike and learning. I had already planned to upgrade to a full sus next year but after watching a bunch of videos where Blake rips it on a HT, I'm planning on upgrading my Storm to an even better HT.

  • @deanohit
    @deanohit Pƙed 3 lety +24

    "Welcome back you beautiful people!"
    Smashes like button 😁

  • @benjohnson834
    @benjohnson834 Pƙed 3 lety

    My current rig is a Nukeproof Scout with a 170 up front, absolute blast

  • @roof30
    @roof30 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I'm with Blake on this one, I ride a hardtail (Cannondale Trail) and love it. It's also more versatile than a full sus.

    • @jackwilliams1468
      @jackwilliams1468 Pƙed 2 lety

      Just got my first cannondale trail 5, its such a good bike for the price. It was the perfect intro bike

  • @XNick291X
    @XNick291X Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Right now I'm riding a BMX, but next week I will be getting a hardtail!

  • @bubukranginang1058
    @bubukranginang1058 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Hardtail build for everything 👌👌👌👌

  • @dhones23
    @dhones23 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I've gone from Full Suspension to a Hardtail, to the point that I sold my hardtail! Why you ask? Canfield bikes 2020 Nimble 9, that's why. Such an awesome bike, I'm having more fun than ever! Something that the boys didn't address in this video is that fun factor, that's the major reason I'm out there riding.

  • @jtsimaras
    @jtsimaras Pƙed 3 lety

    Love my Chromag Hardtail and it is in Blake's favorite colour non flashy green 😁 great video gents cheers đŸ»

  • @Tiger24kicks
    @Tiger24kicks Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Blake's bike is looking really good I would trade my bike for that bike quick.

  • @jamesb12356
    @jamesb12356 Pƙed 3 lety +31

    just got myself the new marin san quentin 3 love it.

    • @krzysztofiwanicki6835
      @krzysztofiwanicki6835 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      I have the same bike and its insane

    • @cf5914
      @cf5914 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I ride mine on some super techy trails and can leave the dentists in my dust.

    • @joeriley5120
      @joeriley5120 Pƙed 3 lety

      Good bike.

    • @starkovscode
      @starkovscode Pƙed 3 lety

      Mountain Bike tik tok compilation already on my channel 😉 Love you all ❀

    • @joshc3509
      @joshc3509 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I’m picking up a sq 3 myself this season

  • @norm3769
    @norm3769 Pƙed rokem

    Love the hardtail myself had the nukeproof scout pro,now im on the 2017 Orange crush đŸ‘ŒđŸ»

  • @nelsonalvarez9054
    @nelsonalvarez9054 Pƙed 3 lety

    Running an overforked hardtail XC bike and it's a beast jajaja
    Si much fun on it always !!!

  • @obedabing6997
    @obedabing6997 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Hardtail user here. Hardtail FTW guuuuys!