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While very similar, I don't think that particular clip would fit because it's so quick and actually has a purpose. It's supposed to make the tension ease a little before bringing it back even harder for Norman's gruesome death What Mike was describing is a cliche joke where characters basically just casually admit defeat to the audience in the face of a huge CG monster or explosion or whatever On the surface they are using the same trope, but Spider-Man did its own thing where as films like Godzilla vs King Kong did the cliche
To be fair, Waterworld has quite a lot of great clichéd moments. Dennis Hopper is a living movie villain trope in this movie. He's so clichéd, it's awesome!
@Colt Sassoon Waterworld is actually a pretty good movie. People seem to hate it because it was the most expensive movie at the time. Thus, the expectations were too high. Plus, it's a Mad Max ripoff as you said. Plus, Kevin Costner's fame was already on the decline I think.
Word of mouth, back then it was being pushed as the greatest action film ever made thus generating high expectations, cost was also brought into discussion and if i may be misremembering things but Costner didn't respond too well for criticism neither
In Jurassic Park, Robert Muldoon's "Clever girl" is a version of the Fierstein Event albeit with a twist...in that the utterer shows respect for the cataclysmic event before it takes place.
There's a version of that in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey when the Evil Robot Usses are about to be killed by the Good Robot Usses and they say "We have met our match. Kudos to you!" before getting their heads punched off.
The Fierstein Event might be a sub-trope where it’s the sidekick and there’s an element of tragic clown. “Oh, crap!” seems more serious from the description.
Technically the ending of Leon the Professional is a Fierstein Event. Norman Stansfield realizes Leon has an active grenade in a belt full of dozens and only amuses oh shit before blowing up.
@@corpeltof I've always thought that it was pure frustration due to the irony of the situation, since Bradley Whitford's character stated earlier in the movie that he always wanted to see a merman, and by the end of it he does but it's actually the cause of his death. Furthermore, I think that was the interpretation they were looking for
That second one is totally either “The Palmer” or “The Clennon” from The Thing (1982). From when a guy’s head detaches, sprouts eye stalks and crab legs, and scuttles away. Though, disappointingly, without making Zoidberg noises.
I love these two, because the Fierstein Event reveals how truly psychopathic they are: Christopher Walken / Max Zorin in A View for a Kill, and Willem Dafoe in Speed 2. They start to laugh like lunatics contemplating their impending death.
Laughing in intensely stressful situations is a pretty common thing, nothing psychipathic about it. I remember in middle school a classmate felt really bad because she had started laughing hysterically when she saw someone right in front of her get hit by a car. They flew through the air and died almost instantly. She didn't think it was funny, but that was how her body and mind reacted.
Is there a name for the trope when a character is laying down dying but has just enough strength for one last motivational speech to the protagonist, and after he finishes the speech he promptly dies?
We need a name for the trope where there's someone in a house and then they cut to the cops (or whoever) about to break down the door and they keep cutting back and forth making you believe it's the same house and then when they barge in nobody's home and you find out the person was in a different house all along.
My favourite example is in Tank Girl, when guy realises he has a grenade on him and just goes "awwwww sh*t" movie is not good but that bit is hilarious
Tank Girl is great to watch when you dont want to have to think about a film and just chill for a couple of hours. Wouldnt mind a re:view of it (hint hint)
It’s technically the same trope but I think Mike is referring to moments where the character says it on a neutral tone, as to himself. If memory serves, Data says it hysterically in Generations, it’s clearly played as a joke.
Lance Henriksen in "Hard Target" has a fine one. After Van Damme throws a hand grenade down his pants, he has enough time to rifle through his pants and find the grenade but instead of throwing it, he tries to unscrew the detonator so it won't set off the charge. He gets it unscrewed and smiles, but then it fires a spark into the open grenade and he has time to utter a "whoops" or maybe just "whoop".
"Oops, teeth" from men in black. "Shit." Before the laser grid in Resident Evil. I'd count the tank display switching to green "stable" just before exploding.
There's an instance in Tank Girl where the Waters and Power merc realizes every pin on his grenade belt had been pulled. Comedic imminent death realization. And yes, for some reason I remember Tank Girl.
@@persephonekajira7269 As a movie it kind of does everything you can do wrong. Weak action that doesn't seem to know if it's comedic or not, a song number out of nowhere with full cast singing, a moment where characters scream "Noooo!" at an overhead camera pull. But, it's oddly endearing. It's bad, but still worth watching. Good to put on in the background, too.
Other examples: “Clever girl.” in Jurassic Park. “Oh.” then the land mine exploding in Tropic Thunder. In Pulp Fiction, Vincent Vega noticing Butch right before he’s shot, I call that the Silent Fierstein.
I’m rewatching Sons of Anarchy. There is a moment when one of the characters steps on a land mine and says, “You gotta be shitting me.” He then proceeds to explode.
For the second trope, I always think that scene from The Thing, where the guys head comes off and then grows spider legs. ..."You gotta be fucking kidding".
Obi Wan during thr fight with Jango on Kamino Before the grappling rope drags him down the sound cuts off and He says "ohh not good'" then drags him when the sound comes back up
Pirates of the Carribbean 1 have that trope! One of the undead crew gets a bomb put in his belly by Will and stuck to other two undead guys via pole they are pushed out of moonlight, guy goes 'oh fuck', then explosion from afar
In batman begins, Ras Al ghul dies after watching how the train he's riding will inevitably crash, he doesn't say "oh shit!" But he takes a second to foresee his own death in his head, closes his eyes and you know in his mind he's going "oh shit", so that's a fierestein event.
A cool reverse of that trope is in Waterworld, they drop a lighter or a torch or something into the ships oil tank, and a slave working down there sees the flames and says "Oh thank God." Idk, I laughed
I think it was from Tank Girl, but some goon notices that the main character pulled the pins from the grenades on his jacket and says “oooooohhhh shit” really casually before exploding.
I love that there was a miniature version of The Firestein Event in _Spider-Man_ (2002). When Norman Osborne, like a DUMBASS, goes *"GODSPEED, SPIDER-MAN."* - telegraphing what he was doing so hard that Petey didn't even need to have a Spider's Sense to know that he should probably do a backflip immediately - and so Spidey dodges Gobby-Wobby's Glidey-Widey, and just before it impaley-wales _him_ instead, he goes *"😦Oh...😟😥"* and then ultimately gets hisself got.
Is that how its supposed to be used though? I felt it was when dudes, usually two, are SO overly hetero it can be seen as hiding the 'gayness' of their on screen performance/relationship.
I think it's more about the purpose of certain characterization. To me, the-not-gays is a definite establishing of straightness, not because it serves the story being told, but simply to avoid people thiking the character might, maybe, possibly, be gay. This can be a reference to a partner, an ex, all the straight sex the character is totally having and any number of other such things. It's something that becomes more critical if the cast is very lopsided in term of sex split, because if there aren't enough men or women to have straight sex with, they clearly must be gay. Top Gun is a movie that comes to mind, where the characters act like randy school boys, I imagine atleast partially to deflect the implication mentioned above. I think it's hard to accurately determine what is the-not-gays and genuine attempts at character building, because even a throw-away line referring to a wife or whatever can serve a characterization purpose.
@@everettvonscott When I say forced schlocky relationships I mean exactly what youre describing. Hetero relationships that are jammed in and usually have almost no weight or impact on the story itself. And its not necessarily forced relationships but sometimes an offhand line about an ex, crush, etc. Whichever it may be its always just to serve the same purpose as you said.
My favorite is in San Andreas as the asshole not Rock dad dies by a comical container smash that is supposed to make the collapse of the Golden Gate with thousands of people dying horrifically attempt to be funny.
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Doesn’t it feel kind of weird promoting your video on a clip you aped from a channel that specifically hates people doing that? Just curious.
Yeah... you just took this from other people. Sorry but that's not the spot to self promote.
Best example was green goblins close up in spiderman before he gets stabbed by his own glider "oh" Sam Raimi at his best
Nailed it
“Godspeed, Spider-Man”
While very similar, I don't think that particular clip would fit because it's so quick and actually has a purpose. It's supposed to make the tension ease a little before bringing it back even harder for Norman's gruesome death
What Mike was describing is a cliche joke where characters basically just casually admit defeat to the audience in the face of a huge CG monster or explosion or whatever
On the surface they are using the same trope, but Spider-Man did its own thing where as films like Godzilla vs King Kong did the cliche
2nd and 3rd are both Gary Oldman in Leon and the fifth element, respectively.
Best scene in the whole movie
The fact that Mike is physically incapable of NOT adding a side-mouth smirk adds so much dimension to him as a critic.
I think Mike would punk you if you called him a critic. His an acholic Wisconsin who watches movies.
@@genghiskhanschubbycheeks2170 true
And also, as a mimic!
That's literally his entire shtick :')
@@genghiskhanschubbycheeks2170 "He's an alcoholic Wisconsinite..." So he's a Wisconsinite.
My favorite is the old man in the oil tanker from Waterworld saying "Oh thank God" when he realizes his miserable existence is finally over
To be fair, Waterworld has quite a lot of great clichéd moments. Dennis Hopper is a living movie villain trope in this movie. He's so clichéd, it's awesome!
@Colt Sassoon Waterworld is actually a pretty good movie. People seem to hate it because it was the most expensive movie at the time. Thus, the expectations were too high. Plus, it's a Mad Max ripoff as you said. Plus, Kevin Costner's fame was already on the decline I think.
@@jf1573 waterworld is awesome
Word of mouth, back then it was being pushed as the greatest action film ever made thus generating high expectations, cost was also brought into discussion and if i may be misremembering things but Costner didn't respond too well for criticism neither
This one exactly.... best part of that crappy movie
In Jurassic Park, Robert Muldoon's "Clever girl" is a version of the Fierstein Event albeit with a twist...in that the utterer shows respect for the cataclysmic event before it takes place.
I was thinking about that scene too.
Is that a Muldoon Effect then?
Beautifully worded.
and then he starts screaming
There's a version of that in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey when the Evil Robot Usses are about to be killed by the Good Robot Usses and they say "We have met our match. Kudos to you!" before getting their heads punched off.
The "Oh, come on!" Merman death scene in Cabin In The Woods has gotta be one of the best.
Not to mention the “oh shit” from that guard a few minutes earlier, just before the first wave of monsters come out
Came here to comment this. Good shit.
I disagree on that one because it was the payoff for a running joke
@@jukeboxfandango it's cosmic irony at it's best
I think there's one in Event Horizon, when the guy finds the bomb and realizes it's about to go off in like three seconds.
Yeah, it was as he was about to get out of the place that he set to self destruct
Stanley Tucci has a calm version of it in The Core.
Doom (2005) - "....Oh there's something behind me isn't there" and bam.
But that one isn't actually played for comedic purpose.
Have you found any new garbage?
Seeing Mikes joy here is so heartwarming. He clearly cares so much, it’s going to be such a shame when the dementia sets in.
Mike can't help performing comedy
I'm pretty sure this trope is called 'oh, crap' on TV Tropes.
The Fierstein Event might be a sub-trope where it’s the sidekick and there’s an element of tragic clown. “Oh, crap!” seems more serious from the description.
Oh crap is more general I think. This would be a more specific subtrope
Who cares
@@danwroy You do, for one, given you bothered posting a response.
@@oldvlognewtricks It must be out of character, the reaction to imminent death.
Jay should've used the Suburban Sasquatch roar.
AHRAHRAHUH
AHRAHRUHUH
Errerrerrr
Missed opportunity
When Springfield gets nuked and comic book guy says "I've wasted my life!" and then gets exploded.
Life well spent you mean
@@JDSileo
That was the movie.
Technically the ending of Leon the Professional is a Fierstein Event. Norman Stansfield realizes Leon has an active grenade in a belt full of dozens and only amuses oh shit before blowing up.
Which is funny because gary oldman has the same fate in the fifth element
@@gatts13So it should be called the Oldman Event
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez that's what I'll call it when I'm 97 and shit my diaper - oldman event
Excellent conversation …
Doesn't he just say "oh"?
Remember when Mike came up for the name for a thing, right after Jay named it?
Mike thought of the trope and the example. Jay just put the name of the actor from the example on it.
Shared credit.
Goodfellas has a Fierstein event. When Joe Pesci's character thinks he's getting made and gets killed instead. "Oh n-" BANG!
Yeah except that’s definitely not played for laughs. You feel the same dread he does in that moment.
@@BradsGonnaPlay i found it hilarious
@@charlieblast wrecked
@@charlieblast Like hilarious how? Like absurd hilarious? Like ha ha hilarious? Like a clown hilarious? Is he a clown to you?
@@EveryDooDarnDiddlyDay y’know, hilarious!
Cabin in the Woods when the merman gottem
"Oh, COME OOON!"
I always took that as a reaction to the look of the monster, like the character was dissapointed at the lame design of it.
@@corpeltof I've always thought that it was pure frustration due to the irony of the situation, since Bradley Whitford's character stated earlier in the movie that he always wanted to see a merman, and by the end of it he does but it's actually the cause of his death.
Furthermore, I think that was the interpretation they were looking for
Nah, he’s reacting to the irony for sure.
I took is as "of all the cool monsters we have here I'm getting killed by THIS?"
Legend has it Mike is still trying to get the perfect "oh whats next" take
Thank you for documenting the cutest Mike moment
Another classic Feirstein event is Jean Baptiste Emanuel Zorg in the Fifth Element.
Speaking of Gary Oldman in a Luc Besson film, what about the ending of _Léon_ ?
I like how the concept went from Oh Shit face to Debbie Downer face.
He keeps closing his mouth at the end and doing like an “oh well.” Kinda face. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That second one is totally either “The Palmer” or “The Clennon” from The Thing (1982). From when a guy’s head detaches, sprouts eye stalks and crab legs, and scuttles away. Though, disappointingly, without making Zoidberg noises.
I just rewatched The Thing and that's the last time I'll ever do so without hearing Zoidberg in my head. 😂
seeing Mike laugh gives me the will to live.
funnily enough Kong Skull Island has a "oh shit" moment with his camera going wonky
If anyone cares to cut a montage of these and post it on CZcams, I will watch it a hundred times. Thank you.
Here you go: czcams.com/video/BCSk3TjXYcI/video.html
Are we seeing the same thing? Jay came up with the “Firestein” name here!
Well all he did was say Harvey Firestein, Mike recognized the scene and dubbed it a Firestein Event. I say it counts.
Between this, the No-Look-Look from their Mummy review and the Not-Gays, Mike really sees himself a trailblazer
Not to mention my favorite from mr evans: "The Coupon Shot"
And the best one: Passive Progressive
Shoot the rodeo
The last trope he described reminds me of Jesus from SOS. You could call it the crucifixion event
I love these two, because the Fierstein Event reveals how truly psychopathic they are: Christopher Walken / Max Zorin in A View for a Kill, and Willem Dafoe in Speed 2. They start to laugh like lunatics contemplating their impending death.
I know it's not great but I love Max Zorin.
Laughing in intensely stressful situations is a pretty common thing, nothing psychipathic about it. I remember in middle school a classmate felt really bad because she had started laughing hysterically when she saw someone right in front of her get hit by a car. They flew through the air and died almost instantly. She didn't think it was funny, but that was how her body and mind reacted.
Max Zorin laughing doesn't really count but I appreciate the A View to a Kill mention.
That segment's great.
Definitely in Aliens, at the end when Ripley realized that we sealed off everything but the gaps in the ceiling.
Hudson... "oh f#*k"
Yeah boi that bit was wicked
there's an opposite one in waterworld where he says "oh thank god"
Pirates of the Carribean
The guy who with the bombs get stuck with his own bomb and says "no fair" then blows up
Is there a name for the trope when a character is laying down dying but has just enough strength for one last motivational speech to the protagonist, and after he finishes the speech he promptly dies?
Oh there must be!
Almost Dead Guy
Last Words
The frog from Shrek 3
Clive Owen from the Bourne Identity
We need a name for the trope where there's someone in a house and then they cut to the cops (or whoever) about to break down the door and they keep cutting back and forth making you believe it's the same house and then when they barge in nobody's home and you find out the person was in a different house all along.
Perhaps attributing it to Silence of the Lambs would be appropriate?
The Hopkins Principle.
Isnt that a "bait n' switch" ?
God - this.
Speed has one where Jeff Daniels says “oh fuck” with his eyes. Acting!
Oh! Same thing happens in Mad Max when Toecutter is about to die.
My favourite example is in Tank Girl, when guy realises he has a grenade on him and just goes "awwwww sh*t" movie is not good but that bit is hilarious
Tank Girl is great to watch when you dont want to have to think about a film and just chill for a couple of hours.
Wouldnt mind a re:view of it (hint hint)
@@soddof7972 it seems like the exact perfect movie for these guys to review since it has lots of great and bad moments and a crazy production
If you like tank girl you should look up tub girl
@@alexanderdineen2476 hell yeah dude
@@bobcostas6272 hell yeah dude
Mike showing how hard it is to act in character when you can't take the script seriously.
Amazing that Mike didn't think of Star Trek Generations when the Enterprise is about to crash and Data says "ohhh shit!"
It’s technically the same trope but I think Mike is referring to moments where the character says it on a neutral tone, as to himself. If memory serves, Data says it hysterically in Generations, it’s clearly played as a joke.
Lance Henriksen in "Hard Target" has a fine one. After Van Damme throws a hand grenade down his pants, he has enough time to rifle through his pants and find the grenade but instead of throwing it, he tries to unscrew the detonator so it won't set off the charge. He gets it unscrewed and smiles, but then it fires a spark into the open grenade and he has time to utter a "whoops" or maybe just "whoop".
Waterworld has a "oh thank god" when the oiler from the smokers dies
The funniest part of this is that the face Mike makes reminds me of Rachel Dratchs' Debbie Downer face every time. I think it fits perfectly.
"Oops, teeth" from men in black.
"Shit." Before the laser grid in Resident Evil. I'd count the tank display switching to green "stable" just before exploding.
There's an instance in Tank Girl where the Waters and Power merc realizes every pin on his grenade belt had been pulled. Comedic imminent death realization.
And yes, for some reason I remember Tank Girl.
Because Tank Girl is awesome
@@persephonekajira7269 As a movie it kind of does everything you can do wrong. Weak action that doesn't seem to know if it's comedic or not, a song number out of nowhere with full cast singing, a moment where characters scream "Noooo!" at an overhead camera pull. But, it's oddly endearing. It's bad, but still worth watching. Good to put on in the background, too.
Other examples: “Clever girl.” in Jurassic Park.
“Oh.” then the land mine exploding in Tropic Thunder.
In Pulp Fiction, Vincent Vega noticing Butch right before he’s shot, I call that the Silent Fierstein.
Jeff Daniels' character in Speed also has a Silent Fierstein.
Green Goblin in Spider-Man when he says "oh" before getting impaled!
Screaming triumphantly "I'VE GOT YOU!" & then whoever they got get away
I’m rewatching Sons of Anarchy. There is a moment when one of the characters steps on a land mine and says, “You gotta be shitting me.” He then proceeds to explode.
When Zorg gets blown up in The Fifth Element. xD
Doctor Strange saying oh fuck before Dormammu crushes him
is "trying to give a trope a clever sounding name after explaining it" an established trope? if it isn't, i would like to call it...
The "reminds of Star Trek event".
Frying the coke.
Coining a phrase
There is already a German term for this, “hachfraüd”
@@gaiangalaxy3198 erm what? 😅 Never heard of that, what region is that supposed to be from? (I'm from the south west, near lake constance).
Escape Plan where the warden does probably the most graceful, resigned instance, instead of cursing or losing his shit he's just like, "...eh."
I love how much fun Mike is having with it, but Jay just gets progressively more aggravated. lol
Mike's laugh and smile are always adorable sights to see
For the second trope, I always think that scene from The Thing, where the guys head comes off and then grows spider legs.
..."You gotta be fucking kidding".
the funniest person mike stoklasa knows is mike stoklasa
No its Rich Evans. He is the funniest RLM by far.
“It’s been an honor, sir.”
“Huh. Who are you talking t-“
Leon the Professional. Ending scene when he blows up.
"Clever girl"
There's also Gary Oldman's "Oh no." In The Fifth Element.
One of the funniest segment of that review, definitely
They don't always get killed, but when they survive it hurts like a hell.
My favorite is the oil stirrer in Water World
I think I'd react the same way if I heard Tim Allen behind me
Obi Wan during thr fight with Jango on Kamino
Before the grappling rope drags him down the sound cuts off and He says "ohh not good'" then drags him when the sound comes back up
"oh god no" 💥💣💥 - Hot Fuzz.
I'm pretty sure this happens in like every single action film lol.
Yeah it’s kinda nitpicky
@@TheJohn9910 I think they were just doing it for yucks. I think they even recommended this movie (?)
Thank you for this. For a long time I had wondered if there was any sort of term that we could use to refer to this sort of recognition scene.
This is adorable!
Does Data yelling "Oh Shiiiiiiiiit" as the Enterprise-D plows into Veridian 3 count as one of these?
Probably not because death was not certain and in fact not achieved. There's probably a trope name for a fake-out moment.
Pirates of the Carribbean 1 have that trope! One of the undead crew gets a bomb put in his belly by Will and stuck to other two undead guys via pole they are pushed out of moonlight, guy goes 'oh fuck', then explosion from afar
The end of Despicable Me when Vector realized he’s going to suffocate on the moon and says “Oh Poop”
In batman begins, Ras Al ghul dies after watching how the train he's riding will inevitably crash, he doesn't say "oh shit!" But he takes a second to foresee his own death in his head, closes his eyes and you know in his mind he's going "oh shit", so that's a fierestein event.
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Mike looks exactly the way my Gramma does when I tell a dumb joke.
Oh my god I forgot red letter media existed! Thank you for reintroducing me, this clip is hilarious
My favorite example is in Waterworld. The old guy in the tanker.
[Torch drops in the oil]
"... Oh thank God."
[Explodes]
I will now be looking for it....
I don't know why but I Can't stop laughing at this video , specially when mike wants to play it straight 😂
I love that Jay's sound effect sounds like a monster taking a shit
A cool reverse of that trope is in Waterworld, they drop a lighter or a torch or something into the ships oil tank, and a slave working down there sees the flames and says "Oh thank God."
Idk, I laughed
The "clever girl" moment in the original Jurassic park
King Theodan in Lord of the Rings, Return of the King
I love the moments when Mike's insanity unravels
It broke new ground!
It’s like a comedy moment -_-
Some Bob Kane Bill Finger shit going on with this title; clearly both Jay and Mike came up with the name and definition together.
In Hot Fuzz the Neighborhood Watch guy has the same sort of moment before the sea mine explodes
I think it was from Tank Girl, but some goon notices that the main character pulled the pins from the grenades on his jacket and says “oooooohhhh shit” really casually before exploding.
What would my life be without all these context-less RLM clips
I love that there was a miniature version of The Firestein Event in _Spider-Man_ (2002). When Norman Osborne, like a DUMBASS, goes *"GODSPEED, SPIDER-MAN."* - telegraphing what he was doing so hard that Petey didn't even need to have a Spider's Sense to know that he should probably do a backflip immediately - and so Spidey dodges Gobby-Wobby's Glidey-Widey, and just before it impaley-wales _him_ instead, he goes *"😦Oh...😟😥"* and then ultimately gets hisself got.
The bit in The Matrix where Neo arrives with the minigun.
I use the term "the-not-gays" to describe schloky forced relationships in movies on a regular basis now.
Is that how its supposed to be used though? I felt it was when dudes, usually two, are SO overly hetero it can be seen as hiding the 'gayness' of their on screen performance/relationship.
I think it's more about the purpose of certain characterization. To me, the-not-gays is a definite establishing of straightness, not because it serves the story being told, but simply to avoid people thiking the character might, maybe, possibly, be gay. This can be a reference to a partner, an ex, all the straight sex the character is totally having and any number of other such things.
It's something that becomes more critical if the cast is very lopsided in term of sex split, because if there aren't enough men or women to have straight sex with, they clearly must be gay. Top Gun is a movie that comes to mind, where the characters act like randy school boys, I imagine atleast partially to deflect the implication mentioned above.
I think it's hard to accurately determine what is the-not-gays and genuine attempts at character building, because even a throw-away line referring to a wife or whatever can serve a characterization purpose.
@@everettvonscott When I say forced schlocky relationships I mean exactly what youre describing. Hetero relationships that are jammed in and usually have almost no weight or impact on the story itself. And its not necessarily forced relationships but sometimes an offhand line about an ex, crush, etc. Whichever it may be its always just to serve the same purpose as you said.
I always think of that weird little pirate monster from Spiderwick Chronicles for the “oh shi” moment
Jay is a very patient friend
My favorite is in San Andreas as the asshole not Rock dad dies by a comical container smash that is supposed to make the collapse of the Golden Gate with thousands of people dying horrifically attempt to be funny.
I had a Fierstein Event last week when I heard my stomach gurgle and knew I wouldn't get to the bathroom on time. Hooray for flu season.
Mike is a treasure
Mike is so cute here
God I love Mike
And this went on for another two hours.