A TV as a PC Monitor??
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I upgraded earlier this month from a 32" 4K IPS panel to the LG OLED 42" C2 as my monitor it is easily the best panel I've ever had on my desk.
nice. i was considering the C2 but i decided on the samsung neo g7 for a bit higher refresh rate. also very happy with it, coming from a 4k 60hz monitor
@@gonkbous nice. Enjoy that high FPS 👌
I can't imagine having anything bigger than 27" on my desk ever lol
Looks nice but oh that burn in sucks
I just got a Samsung S95B oled tv back in November. I was using a 4k/120 led 27 inch monitor before. I haven’t touched the monitor ever since.
I guess affordable is subjective as well.
Obviously… a huracan is affordable to someone who wants to drive around in a house
The 55" one is $1200. Still quite expensive, but for the picture quality I don't think that's too bad. The main issue with using these as a monitor is the sheer size. It's too bad they don't make a 30" version that's $600 or something.
@@ryanspencer6778 $1,200 for a 55 inch IPS TV is garbage when LG OLED TV's (48-inch and 55 inch) have dropped to like $1,200 or less during different sales.
When I saw your comment I was expecting like 4k, but when I saw 1700, I immediately put my basic 65 inch LG TV up on Kijiji. I paid 1500 for my 47 inch 1080p LG back in 08, and that was as cheap as you could go for something that size at the time. If you think 1700 for this TV is unreasonable, you're definitely out of touch with reality. also, he's likely speaking to the average person, in their 30's with a career, or someone in their 20's without kids. This is definitely the cheapest 75 inch Tv you can get without horrible DSE.
About 15 years ago, i paid £2500 for a 55" 1080p. £1700 for 75" 4k 120hz is a great buy.
I’ve been using my LG C1 55” for over a year now as a monitor and absolutely still love it. Image retention was a concern at first but with all of the precautions put in by LG I still have the same great image as the first day.
Paired it up with the Corsair lapdog/K63 and I couldn’t be happier.
Love my cx its the best I seen when I got mine so glad I got it!
I just went from a dual 27” 4K/60 and 1440/144 to a 42” LG C2 and I have zero regrets love OLED and 120fps is more then good for me
I have the LG C1 55" and have absolutely loved using it as one my monitors. The picture quality and experience have been stellar.
+1
just paid £270 for a Toshiba 40 Inch TV -- 2 K -- HDR etc -- its does the job
@@MrSatnavatron 2k? 💀
Great choice. I got the LG C1 65 and couldn't be happier. Just watched Top Gun & Top Gun : Maverick. Beautiful picture. I was super impressed with the first top gun, could not see any of the cgi.
Yup, I got the C1 48 on super sale ~6 months ago and it is amaaaaaaaaaaazing.
Love that Jay is soo excited about the “Magic” remote that uses a cursor, no different than my 16 year old Wii
I use a Quest 2 VR headset over wifi 6 for a desktop and it works really good. Not only can you change the distance of the monitor, but you can also change your environment. That provides something that no other monitor setup can. It's also nice for 3D movies.
Tell me how please
@@dlsrudeboy8658 Using Bigscreen for movies and Virtual Desktop for everything else
I've been using a 55" TV for years. It's much more comfortable than sitting at a desk. I just went with three 55" screens for sim racing and flight Sims.
VR is way better for sims.
@@hussain-x I've used the pimax 5k. Loved the experience with the great fov. But, the resolution is not up to my standard of "better". I plan to get the Pimax 12k when it comes out and I'll see if that gets used more. But, I don't agree one is better than the other. The narrow fov and low resolution of all the other brands is inferior to 4k triple screen.
As far as stereoscopic vision in flight sims goes, stereoscopic vision only plays a big part in real life and in vr, up to 18' and then beyond that distance your brain uses size relativity and motion to judge distance the farther the object is away from a person. Basically, dimenishing returns the farther out. So, if your not in a dogfight, then VR isn't going to do much other than make the cockpit have depth.
For racing, it the depth does help some. But, most sim and real drivers us visual markers to fine tune their times. Actually, real drivers rely heavily on gforces to know what's happening to the car. I'd say forcefeedback and wide fov are more valuable than vr.
Don't get me wrong, I love VR enough to want to buy the Pimax 12k. But, I don't want to wear VR every time I play.
@@theshawnmccown Skyrim would have been awesome in (good) VR back in 2011, but it would have caused PTSD for many.
I've been gaming on a TV, with my PC, for years. I play on my recliner sitting well back from the TV, about 136cm. My last TV broke recently, and I don't have an OLED or QNED budget, so got a 50" LG UH90 4K TV, and am quite happy with it. I put it on game mode, and am happily playing games at 4K 60.
60fps 💀
You have a good TV. I will say though, OLED is incredible lol it's worth the price especially for gaming. I recently bought the C2 and it's RIDICULOUS. if you ever save up enough for an OLED, get one. You won't be disappointed.
@@Pisscan is fine if the TV has VRR. Series S on Q80A with 120hz/vrr felt great, even as S delivers sub 120hz experiences. VRR smooths it out. So good. I wish they'd add it to all TVs now
@@JamieR budget TVs that are 4K 60hz will not support VRR..
@@Pisscan 60 is fine? Especially for someone older
Using my previous LG IPS 65 4K/60Hz for my PS5, but when I bought the Samsung QLED 75/120Hz the difference was brutal. Hooked the PC few times to it, and the experience is great. But as a daily monitor my Dell 27DGFA is spot-on. For my desk area, the maximum I would go is 32.
I have been using TVs as monitors for well over 10 years, and have been shocked that more people don't. Even in the "early adopter phase," my DLP supported 60Hz - and actually 120 for Nvidia 3d Vision which was amazing for many games (and ironically anime) and I was sad when they discontinued. But with TVs at all-time affordability and many users unable to tell the drawbacks... there doesn't seem any reason now not to use a TV (or several) for PC display.
input lag on most consumer level TVs
@@Reshiram32Zekrom23 even if they can't reach the same 1-2 ms delay that pc monitors can, they're still pretty low on TVs (especially with game room, YMMV).
Right. The Vizio xv3dtv554 was way ahead of its time. 480hz/240hz
same everytime i recommend a tv as a display i always get trashed talk talking about "you need a monitor for a pc because a tv makes it unplayable" btw i got a bravia sony tv and theres no problems with it, no halo/blur affect just a normal fast response time tv i guess.
@thatguy3213 I'm using my 4k Sony Bravia from my desktop and never knew that people said that you shouldn't lol, ( I don't get out much lol) , but I don't notice any issues at all, is it my old eyes, should I be seeing some kind of negatives, I've never had a monitor since the old green looking ones? I'm pc dumb obviously, any help appreciated
I'm so glad you showed this vid. I have been using a LG 55" for about 5 yrs. And every video I have seen just about has knocked them down. I have mine on 4K and it looks great. And I am using it for gaming. Its older technology but it looks outstanding. You just proved it. Thanks.
I have a pretty cheap 4k 60 hz LG tv that I played Xbox One on and occasionally play couch PC games on now and it's input lag is very minimal, especially compared to friends' TVs. Pretty sure I've had it for about 7 years.
this one is 120hz
yeah and locked at 60hz most likely
@@bartvink976 I had the QNED85 actually. Swapped it out for the C2 OLED about 3 weeks later. OLED is far superior lol but the QNED is good though. I'm not saying it's bad. The C2 has even better response time as well at 120hz.
Yeah I used to switch between my old cheap 55 inch 4K TV for AAA campaign games and monitor for competitive, and the TV was plenty fine for that purpose. It wasn't like my 1080TI was gonna push those games any higher than 60FPS at that resolution anyway. The input lag was barely noticeable and worth the trade off for the eye candy.
@@wombat5252 I'd like to possibly get a QNED tv at a 75 ' I just can't stand their god awful magic remotes! Mine currently died on my 55' oled and honestly the picture quantity is better than most leds but I feel most newer Quantum dot mini leds are getting pretty damn close to oled.
Nice to see how good TV's are becoming so quicky! I'm using a 43" Samsung 4K 60 TV for my monitor, it's a few years old but still works good for me. I sit at a normal distance as most would from a monitor, but I'm also very near sighted and even wearing glasses, regular size monitors feel way too small. A 43" TV feels just about perfect for me and the 4K makes games looks really good, even if at only 60hz
I have a Sony x90J from 2021 and it also is like this, it detects PC, hits 120hz4k with great picture and no noticed input lag. It's really not very expensive either. i believe the new X85K can do it too but you can get it at 42" so smaller and more monitor sized. Nice thing about these full array mini LED's is there is no risk of burn in.
I understand the primary audience for these videos, but I really wish there was more talk about PiP or PbP when discussing TVs used as desk monitors.
I started a WFH gig years before all the craziness, and I went from a triple 22" monitor setup (what my wife affectionately called the NASA command center) to a single LG 43" 4K monitor. What sold me on it was the ability to have up to 4 inputs displayed at the same time in PbP. Most days I have my personal rig on the top half, and my work laptop on the lower. Effectively giving me two ultrawide screens.
I would love to get a mini LED or OLED to replace this older 60Hz LCD. But once you have that input flexibility you can't live without it.
I think some Samsung ultrawide miniled got that, but mostly it is 2 input, most people do pc on 1 side and ps5 on the other.
i bought a 37 inch scepre ultrawide that allows me to do two 1080p PbP.
I have two of them
ya PIP could make a big come back with have ur show on then having ur desktop in the PIP
Surprised you didn’t mention burn in 🙂 that’s one of the main advantages this has over the OLED screens for daily PC use. Linus and Wendell have both had OLED burn in issues
So your saying all mini-led tv's wont burn in? Or is it this model? I don't have tv programing, just internet..
@@MrRerodmini led do not have burn in issues
48" LG CX OLED has been the single best "gaming" purchase I've made in the last decade. Better than any flagship GPU I've bought.
I just got the 42 for my setup. Love it.
Got one myself, I had a Samsung 50” LCD TV before that for many years, but it died a year and a half ago, been doing TV’s for about a decade or so now and they’ve been fine for me, won’t ever go back to monitors as my main. Still have a 27” as a secondary display though.
That TV is so advanced compared to our main TV. Our main TV is a box with a video tape player. Only reason we still have it is because it's good with retro games and also keeping it because functions well, plus the sound is really good.
When I turn our TV on I can feel the static.
I did this at the start of the pandemic. Its epic. My only problem is the LG tends to want to scale the brightness so it will slowly dim the entire thing if the desktop is mostly bright. My lame hack until I turn off the scaling is just to open another darker window and I get all the brightness back.
this 75" goes down to 1499.99 at costco semi regularly. the 65" went down to 1099.99 recently as well
the price went down even more for the 65 it is now 899.99
I am using the Samsung 65' curved tv for the pc for the last couple years. It pretty much does everything the LG does, Airplay and all. I'm sure there are some differences like the remote,( don't have the pointer, but I bought one for my sister and hers has it), but I have been using tv's for my monitor since 2013. Multiple tv's connected at once. It is great! Just remember to change the display to the total resolution of the tv's connected.
dont tell me that you have the samsung ks8500
I have the smaller version of this 42” I think works brilliant as a computer monitor. Mine also has settings for gaming and runs Xbox one x and ps4 at hdr10
Litterally every hd TV from the past 10 yrs plus does that PC goons so full of there own gas
the qned 80 does not come in anything smaller than 50. you have a 60hz model. the qned 80 series is 120hz native refresh, not motionrate crap
I use the 43" Samsung QN90B with 144hz as a computer monitor and couldn't be happier. That's said, installing PowerToys and activating FancyZones for window position is a must, you don't want to maximize a website on that size.
Same i like samsung over Lg for many things and the reliability
I have the exact same TV. Will never go back to monitors again.
Can that tv do 144hz?
@@Mayhem5417 Yes, also has free sync premium.
@@airixxxx mate tell me why I never knew this. Thanks, need to get me one now
Been using a t.v. as a monitor for a long time now. First was a 40" Toshiba @1080p I forget the model number, but it was like one step down from thier top model, same screen just less inputs, and less fancy cabinet. I used that one from like '08 or '09 until '17 (maybe '18) when I replaced it with a Samsung un49ks8500 (49.5in. 4k curved screen). At first I was unsure if I would like a curved screen, but man as a monitor is actually cool. Watching it from across the room, meh, but as a monitor on your desk, yeah the curve is nice.
For fast paced competitive pc games a tv isn't the best. You can and will still have fun but the response is a lil slower than a gaming monitor. But for RPG's like Elder Scrolls, Fallout, etc. the immersion is amazing.
I think a 60-65 inch 8k curved screen would be about perfect for a monitor. At desktop distance it would take up nearly all your primary (not peripheral) vision, and with that kind of pixel density the image would be nice and sharp...
I am using Bravia 55" with VRR. Horizon Zero Dawn is absolutely awesome. Damn pretty, damn lush. Started with Bravia 32", then when I went back to an ASUS monitor, I just feel like.. stupid. So bought an LG, then upgraded to an OLED, and then this Bravia. Not gonna touch monitor again.
I've been using a Sony Bravia 42" for about 6 years now as a gaming monitor and it tops out at 60hz refresh. I've never noticed any sort of input lag and my gameplay is very consistent, leaving me happy and without question of what may be causing any sort of game degradation. Not saying it isn't there, I'm just saying it hasn't affected my ability to be competitive with online gaming.
People are too obsessed with stats and monitors needing to be 1-4ms now. I've been using this old Toshiba Regza 31" TV as my monitor which does 60hz max and it works perfectly fine. This whole crazy fast 1ms 200+hz monitors are useless for daily tasks and probably of no use to anyone except very competitive gamers/pros. I think the tech is cool though and for people buying those monitors, it's great. If that's what makes them have a better time gaming, that's what matters.
@@nimrodpaul6875that's exactly what i tried to say, this entire performance master race about super fast refresh rate screens are irrelevant for most people that do not participate in competitive/ranked games. Big TV screens are where its at for me as well, bigger surface area to look at without the need to squint my eyes and glue my face to the screen to pixel hunt for movement/players, comfortable distance away from the screen if need be, incredibly good image quality on 4k
Got an LG C2 42” this year, and it’s amazing, definitely the best display I’ve owned, and works great with my PC and both PS5 and Series X
I've had my lg b6p oled since it came out and have taken extremely good care of it, I wonder how well Jayz b6p has held up
ive been using tvs as gaming monitors for years never had issues
I have done the same, but the TV was not able to be color balanced.
@@kevingaukel4950 yea it can only be done when u buy the higher priced ones i think
I am so glad that you did this video! 2 Years ago I bought a "REFURB" 46" LG NanoCell 4k tv and have been using it exlusively as a pc monitor! Keep in mind that the refurbished label is a misnomer because it was actually and open box and the retailer by law in my state can't sell it as new. At the time I purchased this unit the "new" ones retailed for over $1000, this was less than a 3rd of that price. Never the less two years later, I am still blown away with the quality of the picture. LG hit a grand slam with this model by far. I would like to upgrade to a newer model but I really can' afford it. Thank you for this vid it's been a longtime comming! avb
I've used an LG C1 OLED 48" as my pc display for a year now and it's great!
I really dislike those large quick launch tv buttons taking up all the space on remotes for things I never use.
I wish companies would just not label them and allow us to map our favorite stuff to those buttons. On my roku remote especially. I don't use sling or NOW. let me remap the buttons damnit!
Annoyingly there's no CZcams button, so I've set it up as a _speed dial_
HBO/Netflix etc. pays LG/Samsung etc. to have those buttons....
@@BRB499 Yep, those buttons, plus all the data they gather from your TV usage is why TVs are so cheap today.
@@FastSloth87 Lol that's why I give them nothing. I don't even have the voice remote option enabled. I turned it off, I don't want these A holes listening in. Amazon's Alexa listens in on people's conversations. I have the LG C2 and I disabled anything that could possibly take information from me personally.
I decided to buy an LG C1 for my latest build because it was cheaper than a high end monitor but came with the same feature set.
I'm never using another monitor. It's absolutely incredible.
You'll have to eventually because of burn-in, which becomes significantly more likely when using it as a computer monitor. Apart from that, OLEDs are great, so you ought to get a C2 when the burn-in becomes a problem.
@@KristianKumpula It isn't that bad. I've been using an LG OLED CX TV (2020 model) as my monitor for work, gaming and all other PC use as well as occasional TV/movie consumption for around two years now and there has been no burn in at all. I do have the TV's various burn-in protection methods enabled, and my PC cycles through random animated backgrounds set with wallpaper engine every 10 minutes or so, no icons on the desktop, the taskbar set to auto-hide and a blank screensaver set on inactivity and am not leaving all windows at work in the exact same place all the time, though, which probably played into it.
Since TVs are usually a lot cheaper than monitors with the same features and panels, it's a no-brainer to go with a TV like this instead of a "Monitor" nowadays, except perhaps if you are doing color sensitive work (although I'm hearing some of these TVs can allegedly be color-calibrated really well, too).
@@KristianKumpula The C1 is better than the C2 as a monitor, specifically for gaming. I use one myself at 4K/120HDR10. Zero "burn in" on this one, and never had it on my plasma tv of over 12years either.. still works as brand new. Proper care goes a long way!
@@KristianKumpula You don’t know what your talking about. Burn in is not a big problem at all anymore. Clearly you haven’t owned a OLED before because clowns on the internet that haven’t always spam burn in. In reality also OLED burns out not in.
@@KristianKumpula Had my CX for 2.5 years, when is the burn in supposed to become a problem?
You can always just buy a 5 year warranty that covers burn in like I did. Granted in my experience it seems like a complete waste of money. Which OLEDs did you use as a monitor and how long did it take you to get burn in? Let me guess, you have used exactly zero and are completely talking out of your ass.
I have had a 55 inch LG nano cell 4k tv as my loungeroom PC display for the last 4 years it awesome i agree.
I have a 75" 4k QNED LG in my living room...and I love it!
I had the QNED85. Still saw the blooming affect and in gaming. Swapped to the C2 and it was definitely worth it. The OLED is so much better, although I will say for the price, the QNED85 is still REALLY good. Depends on the person though.
Thanks for this! I've just walked past the C2s today.
Bought an LG 65” OLED a little while ago. Just happened to have a game HDMI port with 144 MHz and 120 MHz refresh rate support so when I finally got a PS5 and plugged it in, SHAZAM! Beautiful. But, when connecting the PS5 for the first time it takes a minute or two for it to fully recognize it.
Also, if you hold 0, it pulls up a programmable shortcut menu so you can easily switch between inputs or apps by long pressing whatever number you setup for each one
I've been running two cheap tvs for monitors since 2019, one is a 24" Emerson from like 07, and a 32" Element that was new in 2019 and they've been just fine, not super expensive or fancy but still works, no noticeable input lag or anything, the downside is one is 60I the other is 60 hertz standard
I use a 65" Samsung Q90A that has 120hz refresh and 4k, and its awesome for gaming with my PC! Its a monitor grade TV. Super nice!
Same here..using for pc and it's the best TV I ever own.
Samsung > LG and .. all others for TVs and monitors
Could not put up with the ghosting on the qn90 tvs from samsung.
I would change my mind as well, if i get one of those for free
The only 'Computer Monitor' I ever had were CRT monitors. When I went to flat screen it always has been a TV. TVs have always been great monitors. I currently have a 37'' Visio and a 39'' Sanyo. They both have been great for my use albeit there are clear differences between the two of them.
I watched your video on this tv. I built a new PC you gave me the Idea to use this tv 65in. Works great.
I used to use my 75" HiSense H8G as my monitor for Sim Racing. Yeah only 60hz but that TV for the money is AMAZING! Still using it in the living room. Sure it don't have all the bells n whistles of today, but Till I moved PC to my permanent setup it really was awesome! The TV is still one of the top budget kings years later. HiSense gives themself a bad name by some of the lackluster models they sell at Wal Mart...they really make some great TV's tho!
As mentioned in my comment above, I got myself the 55U8HQ and I love it. Also got the 50A63H for my parents. Both TVs are really good, especially for their prices. I got the higher end model, as I wanted to use it as a monitor as well, while we got the cheaper one for my parents, as they only watch TV on it. Highly recommend the brand if someone is looking for a decent budget TV!
My 58in hisense has been doing great as a pc monitor, but I stick to 1080p gaming on that pc
@@D4mien420 I stick to 1080p for gaming as well, though I was curious and did try at 4K, alas my 2060 ain't that powerful, so graphics have to be at the lowest to be playable 😂
@@Varkoroth my 3060 TI would run 60hz in Iracing and ACC just about maxxed. I miss the 75" 's ...really do lol.
I use an older 50 inch LG WebOS TV, if you set the picture mode to Game, the input latency feels nonexistent.
Don't like big monitors, but they still feel nice
Im using LG 32gk650f and I want bigger, 42 inch. I like big screen. The ppi is important for PC.
WebOS wow I forgot about that, Palm were the ones who made it originally. They tried to make it a smartphone OS to replace Palm OS in 2009. Then HP acquired WebOS when they purchased Palm. Then HP decided to sell it to LG. Next LG put WebOS in "smart" refrigerators and "smart" clothes washing machines. Now WebOS is in TVs and LG has quit making smartphones so its future is uncertain where phones are concerned. If LG plays the game well WebOS could be "the standard" IoT OS since there doesn't seem to be anyone doing that correctly.
EDIT: Nevermind, WebOS is still using the Linux 2.6 kernel, which hasn't received an update since 2013... WebOS is a DeadOS
Some of those classic old TV shows from the 60s were actually done on 35mm film. Mission Impossible and Star Trek's original series are two I know of for sure. There's no way a TV could take a fuzzy VCR level image and make it look that good, but when the original negatives are used to remaster a 1080p digital copy, it's possible.
All TV shows were shot on film until tape kinda became the default in the 80s and 90s, but even then a lot of shows were still shot on film. A lot of European TV shows were actually lost because some reused the tapes over and over again. I know that a lot of BBC shows, and single episodes are lost from that period because of this.
And you're totally right, a lot of these shows have been remastered in 1080p or in some cases in 4K, based on either the negatives, or in some cases film prints. I volunteer at a cinema, and we have old 16mm. Twilight Show prints from the 60s with ads included on the reels. These prints were used for broadcast back in the day.
I bought a 55' nanocell TV back in 2020, and I love it. The WebOS is awesome. It's so much easier switching between inputs, and it feels seamless compared to pushing buttons multiple times to get to the desired input. I've not tried it as a monitor since the computer is a bit too far away.
My previous TV was a Samsung model from like 2009 and I hated the way it sounded at first but i learned to tolerate it. With the LG, it has a sound optimization feature that analyzes the acoustics of the room and I was impressed with how well it improved the sound quality.
I've been using a 65" samsung TV as a pc monitor for last 3 years. It's an awesome experience. Especially with 4k120 and free sync. One downside though is dse, that's become a standard with even higher end tvs.
What is dse?
@@nimrodpaul6875 Dirty screen effect. Also known as clouding. Use Google to see what it looks like.
I've been doing this for years. Three 46" Samsung TVs with NVidia Surround (1080p in the beginning). Now running three 55" Samsung RU8000 4K TVs in surround mode
Hi. How is the resolution affecting size of items on screen? I'm guessing 4K gonna make items smaller? But if I need the items bigger,,as big as 1080p would display them, can I just zoom in, or is reducing resolution to 1080p gonna give me bigger items?
I have a FullHD 32inch, but wanna sit further away, so need a bigger size, but also need to keep items same size as 1080p. Would love a 55inch 1080p, but they're only available in 4K
@@meme-lj7hs Windows has a scaling option that's automatic in Win 10 and 11. Using HDMI or Display Port, it can get the information from the TV, know it's size, and scale accordingly. For me, it's a pain in the butt because it automatically scales to 300%, which is way too big for my preference.
A really great program to pick up is CRU (Custom Resolution Utility, use Google for getting it and how to use it). It lets you tweak the display info and get rid of the 4096 × 2160 resolution that Windows sometimes tries to use.
More and more games are using DLSS or FSR, and if not, have their own built in scaling option, so if your GPU can't push 4K, you might be able to tweak it with that. And if not, 1080p scales evenly with 4K. Also, for a long time, TVs come with 'Game Mode' which drops latency a lot.
Brilliant, thanks for your help. Looks like I just need to go for it, cause I want 55inch and sit far away, that's the priority, than take it from there, some solutions are possible, see how it goes. Thanks
@@meme-lj7hs no problem. More and more newer models also support FreeSync, so something else to look for. And the biggest TV sales time is just before SuperBowl, so that's when the new TVs come out, and the 2022s go on sale.
I've been triple screening 55" TVs for years. Have an OLED as my middle and 2 QLEDs as my left right (so I can move static HUDS to them so my OLED doesn't get burn in) Once you do this you can go backwards. Its amazing. Especially now that you can get 120hz
Hi Jay. I have the Hisense 55" Series U7HAU Uled 4K I think they use LGs panels and its a great cheaper option, it supports VRR and FreeSync and they are the important things when it comes to PC Gaming.
BTW the AU is just the model for here in Australia.
If I am not mistaken only LG and Samsung are makers of panels. Everyone buys from them.
Nice, I'm using a 55" U8H myself. I was using the U8G but the panel started to go bad after 10-11 months.
LG is the only manufacturer of large screen OLED panels for TV. I guess Samsung tried but didn't like the results so they just made a deal with LG to use theirs. As a G1 owner, OLED is just beautiful.
@@DustoMan I just got the C2. It's insanely beautiful. It's actually my first OLED because I didn't want to spend the money originally, but the contrasts and colors are RIDICULOUS.
@vollkerball1 Sony now make their own, they used to used Samsung
Weird that you seem so surprised about all of this. The C9 you mentioned has airplay and the AI stuff as well, 4k/120 on all 4 ports as well. Or at least the EU models do, maybe different with the NA models?
I've got a NA C9, and can confirm it's the same as you EU model. Not sure why Jay doesn't know this. Although, I think Airplay doesn't show up in the menu like it does on this newer TV.
@@eyankee01 even my 2 year old BX9 has Airplay, it´s been pretty much in all the last years models from LG. Jay should know, but after all... he was payed to say so.
Ive been using a 2k 42" for three years now. Makes a great multi-screen setup on one screen.
i've been using my LG C1 48 for a year and it's been my favorite monitor.
Was using a SAMSUNG 65-Inch Class Neo QLED 4K UHD QN90A Series Mini LED tv as my main monitor for gaming but for me it was too big with it even being mounted on the wall behind my desk so I swapped with my brother who had a 55" of same TV but was only using it as a tv and to me 55 inch is much better. It is also a 4k 120 htz tv
I think that 55" is the sweet spot for pc gaming if you have the space. Just big enough to fill your peripheral vision without turning your head but small enough you don't have to set it back ten feet.
@Nona Urbizniz yea switching from a 65 to 55 same model was perfect, have it mounted on the wall behind desk and have 2 27 inch monitors sitting on mini shelf behind desk so when tilted they are even with desk top
Makes sense to have TV if you want your PC in the living room or something, where you can sit back from a distance. For Desktops/workstations where you need to sit or stand close or your in a small room TV's too big better of going with a PC monitor instead.
My home theater pc will always be a gaming pc.
In your opinion
LG C2 42 inch is awesome as a monitor. you do need a relatively deep desk though. (my desk is 80 cm)
agreed. I wouldn't go larger than 42-43" panel for anything you're going to sit immediately in front of... 75 inch 4k from the couch is another story though
Yeah I have my old 60" Sony 4k LED in my living room with my gaming PC and consoles on it.
I'm running an LG 42" C2 as an upgrade from a LG 34" 1440p Ultrawide, and I absolutely love it, the panel is gorgeous and is awesome so I can use with my PS4 Pro or work laptop! I'm gonna be sticking to TVs for monitors now I'd say!
You can also set it up for blink cameras to be viewed from the alexa app. Also it will also tell you if your washer or dryer is done if the set has thinq badge with wifi. A lot of configurable things you can do on the TV the list goes on and on if you haven't connected to some amazon echos around the house.
I love my lg oleds. Tried to use my 4k 144hz 27 inch Sony m9 just doesn’t compare! No going back I have a 42 c2 on my desk & a 55 c2 on my tv stand in my room 💯💪🏽🔥
A lot of Sony's panels get made by LG themselves.
@@barrywallace2744 yes very true. The only difference between the LGs and the Sony TVs, is that Sony is better for watching movies and LGs are better for gaming, albeit the differences aren’t really noticeable unless they are next to each other.
@@gdbev Barely noticeable. You're right. I have the LG C2 because I didn't have the budget yet for the Sony's A95K. From my experience, LG is better with gaming but I always did truly love Sony's colors over any other brand. I feel like Sony just gets the colors right. But you pay a premium price if you want Sony.
LG is releasing a 27" 1440p/240Hz OLED monitor in January. I'm going to keep an eye on those reviews since I love OLED but want something that fits on my desk.
@@danschmidt6206 i wish it was 4k instead of 1440p it’s hard to go back 😭
I'm super interested in the 65" for a much better price. Also, my living room is kinda small and I currently have a $600 Samsung 55" TV from like 4 years ago, so this would be a come up for sure.
I literally got the 65 delivered last week. Same as you, went from a 55"(Mine was way older) to the 65QNED85. Love it so far. Only minor complaint I have is what Jay says at 4:12. The power plug is not removeable and is just a bit short. Obviously I made it work, but it wasn't quite long enough to run it through the cable channel properly on my stand/mount and make it completely clean. To really get it 100% hidden i'd have to add an extension. But again, minor.
Do not go with 65. You will hate it if your like me a pixil snob. Lower bit content or like live tv doesn't look as good as the 55 inch. If u stream then it's friggin great but if u watch allot of live tv then u will hate it. I'm using a Sony also. Samsung may look alil different or handle it better. Idk I will say my smaller Sammy does look great that q series stuff. All colors pop
i remember when 40'' was considered big
@@dmo848 I haven't had live TV for going on a decade now. Lol There is still a lot of great live television, I just have no interest in those channel packages anymore. I have most streaming services on my TV and game on my PS5.
@@kyleduddleston4123 I got into IPTV pretty hard. It blows Netflix n all that stuff out of the water. It's better than cable that's for sure. The hardest part is finding true honest people to give u service. It's kinda an underground thing now. Kodi is what fd it all up for everyone
I honestly used to do this for a few years casually gaming and watching movies it's fine, playing on a large tv looks great. Only have 2 gaming monitors total an old 19' 720p ready one, used the 1080p tv for years, and hopped to a 1440p 32' gaming monitor last year. The input is much better on the gaming monitor but there a a huge chunk of games offline I don't think it would matter much (especially older titles).
I have the previous gen of this exact TV in my living room and its what i PC game on. Everytime feels like the old guy in arm chair getting blown away by the stereo. Control in 4k at 75 inches is *chefs kiss* incredible
Thanks for this video. I was curious what "affordable" means to you and so looked up that TV, found it on sale for about $800 off (this is Australia so it was still ~$1700 after the 800 off). Which is actually a pretty decent price for this country. Wanted to buy it but decided to look at other TVs and found an OLED that's essentially the same as the QNED one. And it was also on sale, $1100 off which made it cheaper than the QNED one. With an alpha 9 processor instead of the alpha 7 this one has. Was going to buy a new monitor in a few months anyway, may as well get it now and save $1100 in the long run. All the 4k OLED monitors I see are $3,000+ and can't do half the things this TV can do.
So thank you. I never would have found this if not for your video. I'd have had to pay $1100 more for this later or buy a sub-par (or overpriced) TV/monitor.
I really miss some benchmarks with "smart" TVs. How long does it take to power-on to display HDMI/DP picture? For gaming... can you use it as a monitor without agreeing to terms of use? With some TVs this is impossible.
With mine you can opt out but you cant use any of the TVs applications or OS.
Wich is fine for a moniter, because the PC does that and more, but shit if you dont want to be spied on but want a TV for Netflix or Prime.
At least they give you the altimatum to not use their OS or apps.
I've been using my TV as a PC monitor all the way back to the late 90s with a Sanyo 36" tube TV using the S-video input and RCA for audio. Even attached two stereo speakers for a left and right surround sound and it worked fantastic! More recent, the last 7 years I've been using 4K OLED TVs and would never go back to an old monitor. (except maybe for old 4:3 games so you won't get burn in).
I have an LG ultragear 48" OLED monitor and I love it! For my TV, I wanted an LG panel, but I really wanted Google TV. Sony uses LG panels and comes with Google TV, so that's what I went with, and it's been great! Had the TV for about a year now, and still no complaints!
For about 8 years now I am using TVs exclusively for PC use.
First a 40" Philips TV and my current is a 55" LG C9 OLED, an absolutely awesome display (it is only just a tiny bit too high for my viewing distance).
After a few years of heavy use I only have a few dead pixels at the edges, no burn-in yet.
Soon I likely get a more modern 48" LG OLED for PC use and my current TV will then move to the bedroom.
Recently upgraded to a LG C2 42 inch OLED and I am loving every minute of using it. If you can afford to spend this much money on a monitor/tv, I would for sure recommend this LG tv over any monitor. The only downside is you can never go back to LCD once you're used to OLED. Best panel I have ever used.
Micro led though… 💀
I've used both OLED and LED displays, and I actually prefer the LED in some ways, such as the brightness, contrast, and vividness of the colors
Get something with great local dimming and you pretty much match everything OLED can offer, minus the burn in risk.
Over any monitor? Lol my alienware is better as a monitor buddy
@@Nareimooncatt yeah enjoy the garbage latency on your mini-led
Been using a 50" Vizio for a while. A solid change for me, noticed little to no lag when it came to inputs like the Wacom Intous Pro or just standard pc games. Took a bit to get my color settings just right, turns out you don't want to have the 4: 4: 4 Chroma Subsampling on when using RGB based color; makes the reds glow causing blushing on images with gradients. That kinda screwed with my head for a while when doing color work in Paint Tool Sai.
19:03 Holy crap! That looks amazing.
Got my lg c1 3 months ago and loving it
I got a 4K tv years ago cheaper than a monitor and I loved it.
Same. I've been using a tv for a monitor for years. Had a 720p Panasonic plasma for a while, then got an led 4k LG a couple years ago. I stream all shows and movies, so it just made sense. Welcome to 2023, Jay! Lol
Although I’m pretty content with my 2nd gen qled Samsung 43” I do really wish I had waited for the 120hz version. It’s great for cinematic games (control, stray etc) with the picture quality and hdr being fantastic. It works pretty well for sim racing too, though that’s where I’d most enjoy the better refresh. Oh well. Not like my 3080ti can push many games to those levels anyway. But 1440p165hz and 4k60 as my options is still very much a first world problem to have.
I'm playing many at 1440 and older ones in 4k without noticing any issues,,, is it because I'm old and pc illiterate lol ? It's a 75 in Sony Bravia 4k
@@nimrodpaul6875 I wouldn’t say so. I’m just demanding of my hardware, since I’ve been a pc gamer/builder for 25 years
I have been using a HiSense RokuTV 55" 4k 120 Hz TV as my gaming pc monitor for a few months now and absolutely love it!
i had purchase a new tv a couple weeks ago. Came right to this vid.
Bought the 55" version
And i LOVE it!!!!
Best tv around
Thanks Jay
I use an LG C1 OLED on my PC and PS5. Absolutely stunning screen. Will never go back to anything else
If it wasn't for the banding in solid dark colors I don't think I would ever have a reason to upgrade my C1. I have the same setup and it's beautiful, it blows my Predator 34 out of the water.
Same here. Only consideration I have at this point is further advancements in OLED or QDOLED tech.
I've worked with both,
I prefer the Samsung QLED Neo
I have a LG 55" nanocell tv as my pc monitor and i love it, i don't play games that require 60+ fps anyways. It actually does pc gaming better than watching movies, it has quite a lot of screen bleed but not noticeable when something fills the entire screen
Thanks a bunch as I would have never looked at a TV as an option. I'm losing my vision and this is perfect for my situation.
I just got a C2 oled, and I was expecting a good TV. I did expect it to be as good as it is. I may have bought my last computer monitor.
I did the same. On sale at BB. I'm not a gamer. Well... I might be now. I feel like a kid playing games again. What an amazing picture. 4080+C2= Woah. I am returning my 4080 because I was able to order a 4090 @ retail. Cannot wait. Even the 4080 was/is incredible. It is a workstation (I work in Media - it's also a writeoff) and I want to use the card for VR as well. I'm digressing. Enjoy the C2!!!
You'll have to buy another one eventually unless you're fine with burn-in.
@@wicksleysnipes1476 You think the 4080 is worth nearly double the asking price of a 3080?
@@DavidWasTakn yes it's worth it. Got my 4080 from best buy for $980 with promo code and 10% rewards. Best card for the price
@@wicksleysnipes1476 Amazing to hear congratulations on that TV and PC.
Hi Jay, Happy new year to you and the team.
Two points I would have liked covered:
1)energy usage with a AI chip in it might be like NVidia 3k series card within.
2) Burn in .Older 4k tv/monitors suffered from burn in issues when used as a monitor.
Burn-in is much less an issue these days, OLED panels biggest advancements have been in brightness and burn-in prevention. Unless you literally have the brightness at max even on desktop and leave it on that static image and disable the screensaver on the panel, you should be fine.
I have done same thing but went with VA panel from Sony, X94J 120hz super happy, and it works as smart tv as well
Bought this model but the 55' inch for my pc setup... it changed everything. For sure the best decision ever!!
TVs were good for monitors for a long time(about 15 years ago, this is around when “game mode” started to became a thing ) with the exception being if you need high fps as most were 30 hz until about 5 years ago and now 120 seems to be the baseline now so with the exception to competitive fps games you should be fine to use a tv now
I wouldn't have called 30 Hz good even 15 years ago
Tbh, 120hz is fine for competitive fps too, unless you're a professional.
Perhaps the cheapest tv's were 30hz but not higher quality ones. I've used multiple tv that are now 10-13 years old and all of them had 60hz panel.
"TV's" generally are too big for how close I sit to the display, this 👽 QD-OLED panel is so awesome though 🥰
Its not qd oled. Its mini led.
@@jsteezus I meant "this" as in my display...lol he's reviewing an LG. I said 👽 QD-OLED (Alienware) 😋
@@deminybs ahh cool! The Alienware qd oled Is indeed awesome!
@@jsteezus yea ...now I'm spoiled and can never go back to a backlit display...😥 lol
RIP my wallet
@Joe his desk might not be deep enough to move the tv back or have a place to keep his keyboard and mouse on the desk.
I use a 48" LG C1 4K 120Hz Oled as my gaming monitor and its amazing. Only thing you gotta watch out for is burn in but as long as you hide the taskbar, use a black or dynamic wallpaper and don't have any desktop icons its fine. The picture quality is superb and the blacks are actually black not a shade of gray. Sometimes i actually can't tell if the TV is on or not. And the best part is i only paid 800$ for it on black friday in 2021.
It is always interesting to present,a better/faster tv, to a viewer looking at an older less capable dislay in home. l
do love this review. Thanks
Man after buying my first OLED (77" LG C2) earlier this year, I simply cannot recommend anything else. First thing I watched was Interstellar on 4K Blue ray. Absolutely jaw-dropping. Save your money, skip any LED-based TV. Get an OLED. Thank me later.
That movie was filmed with 70mm film - it would look good on damn near anything because it is equivalent in resolution to around 6k and then down resed for all releases. You could put that movie on a 1080p tv and it would look amazing.
You prefer this over Android TV on Sony? I tried both and having a pixel phone is just seems like how it should be lol.
Android… 💀
@@Pisscan must be an iphone guy
Yeah, that's an important point. The software on TVs. With Android you have (at least) some flexibility. You can debloat it, side load apps, it gets regularly updated, or the apps... Even you can use apps for phones on the TV if you have to. Other brands, you depend on them updating all, even the apps. So, if Netflix doesn't update anymore there, for example, you are screwed with the "smart" capabilities. So yeah, the OS in your TV is a thing nowadays, or you need to rely on other hardware to extend the life of your TV.
So glad you did this vid. I posted a comment on your channel a couple weeks ago about how I use my Samsung q80 65" more for PC gaming than my monitor and asked for suggestions for an upgrade. I'll definitely be looking at this lg for an upgrade, although I gotta say my q80 @ $1300 3 years ago was ab excellent choice. 4k 60hz and minimal input lag. Thanks jay n guys!
Just ordered a QN90a 85" for my living room PC setup. Looking forward to the increased contrast, brightness, and 120hz from 4k compared to my old Q70R.
I had a 40" Toshiba TV as a monitor for years....
@@DecayingReality some people cant afford it
He never said he had a high end system though..
@@demonicrgc I have a 34" MSI 144Hz curved monitor now.
@@peterromano1911 nice
These new LGs can run GeForce Now. Would you ever test how viable it is?
Isn't Nvidia shutting down their streaming service GeForce now?
@@O.G.Trashboat No. They are turning of GameStream which is the in-home streaming your PC games to another device. GeForce now isn't going anywhere.
I’ve been using a 55” Hisense U7G at 4k 120hz with a rtx3070 as my gaming setup for a year now and it’s awesome. I sit in a comfy recliner about 5 feet away and it’s my ideal setup.
I have the LG C9 55" and after 3 years of owning it, it is still really good.
OLED is the only thing I can spot the difference on in an electronics shop. QNED is fine.
OLED is by far the superior technology.
i just finished my new pc in November, i just plugged it into my LG CX oled, its awesome!!
@@thanos1000000fc QD-OLED FTW
Almost always choose LG's for webOS and they are the standard for OLED.
@@thanos1000000fc Quantum Dot OLED and MicroLED (not MiniLED) make vanilla OLED look stupid
See that was your problem. I've always paired really terrible computers with marginal TVs so it always worked great. To quote Ratatouille "You know if you could sort of muscle your way past the gag reflex all kinds of (monitor) food possibilities open up"
Hmmm...something in your statement sounds somewhat "pornographic" to me somehow... 🤔🙄😁
PS: Yes...like my wife often says...I AM a rather sick b@stard! 😂😂
I have been using a LG CX since it released as a gaming and PC Monitor. I have to add that I use 2 x 1440p monitors on the left side for windows that are constantly open like stocks and email. The main screen is used for games and programming. You have to be aware of burn in though when you use it as PC monitor. I use a VisualStudioCode with a dark theme to prevent burn in from long programming sessions. Also auto hide the taskbar.
After about 3 years i have no visible burn in. Gaming with HDR on PC/XBOX/PS5 @ 120Hz is just amazing.
Hi Jay
I been building PC's since 1979.
Over the years, at times I have used TV's as monitors.
Even right now, I use a Sony Bravia 49" 4K TV as my main screen, but also use 27" 4K, and 27" 1080p monitors.
Sometimes I use my 55 inch 1080p Plasma TV, which look awesome on some games, like Mindcraft, because of Plasma 600hz refresh rate.
Be nice to have a 4K to reach / use 600hz on the newer tech screens, like Oled, etc
My problem with LG is that i have way too many friends who got those TV's thrown away just after the 2 years warranty and had to buy new one. It might be just coincidence, but considering i know more than 5 people that had this problem i prefer to pass on it.
So… do any of your many friends know how to properly use technology? 💀
Going on 3 years with my 65" C9 and it's still an amazing panel. Don't use it for PC, though, it's the home theater TV.
Fake news
Same has happened to me several times now. It seems like every single LG tv I buy winds up dying within about 2 years. There is ALWAYS an issue with LG televisions. Every single time.
@@Pisscan So... Do you have anything relevant to say in response? Your snide comment has nothing to do with the fact that MANY people experience an absurdly high failure rate with LG televisions.