The Brand New 2023 Ibis DV9 Gen 2 Hardtail Review - A Lightweight Carbon XC/Trail Hardtail
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2023
- The 2023 Ibis DV9 V2 Hardtail was just announced and I'm lucky enough to have one in to review. Today we take it out on some of Sedona's green, blue, and black diamond trails. I love this bike. What do you think? What did Ibis do well, and what did they miss? Where would you ride this bike?
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I truly appreciate the emphasis that your channel places on “slacker ≠ better”
This review never gets old. I enjoy your excitement with reviews like this. Seems this is a machine for XC/trail minded riders. Any luck getting experimental? Great job! Keep it up!
I love how you described this is for someone who likes a precise ride and quality things in your life. I haven't heard something like that in a review before. I have an Ibis Ripley AF and very quickly sold it and ordered this DV9. You are one of the best reviewers on the internet my dude! :)
Thanks for the kind words.
How do you like the dv9 compared to the Ripley?
@@mircea5013 it requires me to be much more precise when riding. it's a pretty different experience. with the ripley, you can mow through rocks. this is not the bike for that IMO. i go slower on more technical trails. if you enjoy picking lines and thinking more on the trail (in terms of how your body is positioned, how to position your bike, etc) then you'd enjoy the dv9. on smoother trails, this thing FLIES. also climbing is much nicer (even technically) than the ripley. it's so much easier to quickly move this dv9 around to navigate a trail.
@@patrickohalloran8540 Does it feel like a trail or XC bike in terms of position and stack height? Do you feel you have your weight centered, on the back wheel or pushing more on the front wheel?
I'm asking because I have a problem with low stacks, having pretty long legs (180cm, 86inseam). Thanks
Another great detailed breakdown and review of the DV9. Great job Steve, love seeing those trails 👀👀 views for days riding the side of the mountain!!!
I think, I need one! Thanks for your ride/review 👍
Thanks in large part to this wonderful, honest review, I bought this DV9 as my first hardtail. I'm a short-armed 5'10" and the Large is ok for me, but feels slightly big. I got used to it. Built it up from a frame with the most idiotic collection of overpriced components and it's astonishing. With carbon wheels, it wants to run up hills. I've just changed to a 203mm rear rotor for extra fun. Astonishing bike. Thanks for a great review and a great channel. Can't wait to get back to Sedona!
Very informative as usual. Great content
I learn so much with this channel!
Another amazing review, I wish more people were as thorough as you are in other categories... XC, Trail, etc...
This is pretty much the XC-leaning hardtail I've been waiting for. Nice review, Steve!
great review
This bike looks siiiiiick 🤙 great review my dude
I love these chest cam reviews. I watch them not so much for the info on the bike (although I like that too), but for the vicarious experience of being on the trail with you, hearing the gravel under the tires and the rear wheel skipping over steps. And I like how this review really got to talking about the soul of mountain biking, connecting with nature and the love of the sport. Chapeau, as we say in France.
Great review, you nailed the rider suitability, I fit that and would love to see if they come available in my country, but scared that the pricing will be higher than I would like. This bike is everything what I am after, the trail chosen was a blast for this.
Love this review! Have an old Ibis T29 & love where the Ibis has taken this DV9 bike!
LONG LIVE THE HARDTAIL!!!!
Dude, those ledges at 6:00 are no joke! Nice moves! This video more than most makes me want to build up a hardtail.
Great review! have been waiting for this one 👍🏼 I put some Wicked Will’s on my Honzo CR DL and loving them, they would do well on this DV9 as well I think
Great review and comparison to other frames and builds. I would love to switch this frame onto my current build for the sandy/loamy and tight pine barrens trails I ride here on the east coast. A few years ago I was terrified of the thought of riding a carbon frame in the woods. Manufacturing has comes so far.
Well based on your review I bought a DV9 Deore build. With the current mark downs I think it was the best value. The other bike I was considering was a new Roscoe.
Great review Steve! I agree with what you said about not having two bikes so similar in style. I have my SantaCruz HighBall for XC style riding and my BC Original Podsol that you recommended for the rougher trails.
Really nice videos, just interesting to know Compare to Yeti ARC which one is more open to all around use ?
Stellar review as always 👌
Even though I am not interested in buying a hardtail these days (I’m perfectly statisfied with my Specialized Chisel and probably wont replace it until it breaks in two) I always watch every video you make. Your riding and your thoughts about different style bikes are very interesting and entertaining. Hats off!
One more thing. I live in central Europe, so totally different terrain, but my experience with the Rekon Race is the same as yours. I get on with it way better than the regular Rekon. It’s really a masterpiece of an XC tire if you don’t mind drifting around a little. The side knobs are pretty trustworthy, so they always end up catching you if you ride “within XC reason” :)
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I know a lot of people are interested in running this with a 140mm fork and meaty tires and possibly an Angleset. In my opinion, that would erase all the magic that this bike has going for it. To raise the bb that much, to slacken it out, and to weigh it down would be a mistake in my opinion. If that's the type of thing you're into, I'd recommend a maniak instead, it's far more suited to that.
The magic of this bike is its steeper head angle, its short wheelbase, its low travel and its light weight. I feel like this bike was meant to dance and carve, not plow and shred.
Probably my favorite reviewer on CZcams. Not just bike content but in all categories. Super thorough and honest.
I love this then. I really do not feel at home on the newer geo bikes that are stable long slack speed machines. I love the nimble playful bikes that just need to be tossed around when ever the trail lets you.
I have mine with 140mm DVO Sapphire, with my off the top settings, it measures 136mm, and I love it!
@@chehogg great feedback. Have you tried it with a 120mm yet?
@@hardtailparty No, I have not. My LBS knows my riding style and limitations, and chose the travel. I am in my 50s, have mild age related arthritis, have a BMX background (with an aptitude towards flow BMX style trails), but struggle with steep descents, especially when rough. Totally respect your expertise and advise, and at the same time love my set up! What do you think about the extra 16mm of travel, after this information?
Bravo Bravissimo. Great video on this Ibis DV9 V2 hardtail in carbon frame! Respect from Denmark. Good review work, champ!
I love the “nature lover” comment. More than anything about mountain biking I enjoy covering miles and getting lost in the woods and I often stop just to take it all in. I’m this review, you capture so much of what I love about mountain biking.
I first discovered the DV9 through your review and your consulting service helped me find the right one. I have to say, it’s tempting to upgrade to a new frame and swap over all my parts.
Question, how does this new DV9 compare to the old one with the angled headset?
Thanks for the video. I bought my wife one and I took it for a ride. Loved it so much I just ordered myself one. Your description of the ride is very accurate. I am a nature lover who also likes to play, so it’s a perfect fit!
Great review! I heard about this bike through a buddy of mine. After a year in on riding I'm looking to upgrade my Trek Marlin 7 and do a custom build with something like this or a Yeti ARC as an all in one bike. Being that i'm a short rider (5'5") what's your in depth thoughts on the reach? Unfortunately in my area I have no dealers that have one in stock for me to sit and get a better feel for it.
Great review! The bike is definitely on my shopping list, but I will fit a 130mm fork to slacken the angles slightly.
love your advice. Got a ripmo and complemented it with a Spot Rocker mostly due to your advice. Super happy with them. Great content keep up the great work.
How you liking the rocker? That bike and this dv9 have me stuck. Any info is appreciated!
I’m in the same boat. DV9 or Spot Rocker…
Great review Steve, as usual, I was waiting for it since the first video. It seems a very balanced bike. It may be my next new bike, but my heart was stolen by the titanium Neuhaus Hummingbird I saw last week.
Agreed on that Ti Hummingbird, Francesco. I decided to do the DV9 right now, but that Neuhaus is absolutely a long term goal!
I'll have a ti neuahaus in for review before the year is over.
Great review Steve! And I know those drops you were hitting are legit. I'm deciding if I want to but a DV9 frame and swap parts over from my Kona Honzo. The Honzo is customized with a 34 Stepcast, carbon wheelset, and the seatpost will fit. The Honzo rips but the Ibis will be more lively, and there is a lot of climbing here in Boise. On another note, I'm glad you liked the Marin Team Marin. I remember when I brought it and its Geo to your attention.
Awesome video, awesome review. For a roadie that likes to play on the blues and greens, and doesn’t have very much technical mountain bike skill. Would this be a bike for that? When I go out, I like to pick and choose my lines, but I don’t have the skills that most mountain bikers do. (Roadie/triathlete)
Steve, obviously you have been a long time expert on recommending the best hardtails for a individual based on an in depth analysis and your experience. Your ride review also include your thoughts on HOW to ride a hardtail on hard trails. I really think people should consider what a hardtail is capable of when “surfing” across the rocks and not plowing through the tech.
Thanks for the kind words.
Great review, don't know why but I didn't think you would love it as much as you do. Can't really complain about pricing, the old one was $999 for frame only and this one is $1499 - not unreasonable.
Great comments on tire choice. I'm in that blue/green with a bit of black camp, went from DHF's on my Big Al to Vittoria Agarro(F)/Barzo(R) and will probably go even lighter and faster rolling next time around. Problem is there aren't that many good tires (that I know of) in that 750g range.
Brilliant ride review .
Fantastic review! Thank you🙏. I've been loving mine and agree with everything you've stated. The tires are a little slippery but adding more knobbier tires could slow it down. I would look to even lighten it up a bit so when you mentioned swapping out the fork and putting on a lighter wheelset, I'm thinking the same thing. Would love to see that review! I'm just over 5'11" and my Large feels perfect. Loving it way more than my full suspension.
The fork is actually super.light. I'll be reviewing a new wheeler with this frame soon.
Love your reviews
Thanks for the kind words Danny.
Thanks for the quality videos, Steve! Tough call between the new Ibis DV9 or Yeti Arc. 🤔
Very different ride feels despite somewhat similar geo and carbon construction.
Looks like a great bike for those of us in the Upper Midwest!
I appreciate the straight up reviews, most channels I feel fall into just spouting out the web description and talk about how great it is.
Nice splash of honesty in the 'for the price id recommend perhaps ____ other bike, or its not great in X but more at home in Y
Thanks. I'm so tired of "reviews" that just read web specs. Those aren't reviews.
@@hardtailparty Well if you found yourself on Vancouver Island you could review my Grand Canyon, but big for you I think.. I am 6'3.
This bike looks like a winner loving the geo I have the chameleon mx I love it but it’s a brick over 30 pounds . I’d like to try this with a 140 fork
Great review as usual Steve.
I'm thinking of buying just the frame and putting most of the parts from my old DV9 into this new version.
My plan is to use the new Eagle transmission, I have a spank rear wheel with the hex drive 102T engagement hub which would go great with this.
The old DV9 used a bike yoke revive which is a considerably better dropper than the one they included with this setup.
I’m thinking he same thing. Wonder how much different the new frame vs the old one with the slacked head angle.
He makes everything look so effortless. I’m shocked he’s doing what he’s doing with those tires. I had those on a similar trail and slid all over the place.
CO Springs, CO rider, here. Steve, I bought a DV9 frame off this review. I had a feeling it was going to go that way on your first look, but your description of who it's for in this video fit me to a 'T'. Plan is to build it up to ride a lot of my Green/Blue Front Range trails, including the rides I do from my house that have a lot of "JRA" to get to the good stuff. Also thinking of some in-state rides in Salida, Buena Vista, and Gunnison that would be a riot on this thing. I have family in the Boise, ID area as well, and this bike will absolutely hammer the singletrack in that town. Between it and my Neuhaus Metalworks Solstice 29, I think I have this whole hardtail thing covered for the time being. Psyched!
I think it'll be perfect for what you're looking for.
Seems like what I'd choose for this category of bike, given my full suspension has to be pushed before it wakes up. It's good to have something that'll put a smile on your face just cruising and simply enjoying to be outside.
90-95% of what I ride is either up, up and some more up, or just simply slow stuff. That's why I wish I had something more suited for it. I cannot afford a second bike for a long time, so I just watch these videos at least to get a feel for what's up and down in this world. A used bike may be the route to aim for, but still, I need a budget for it.
Great review. Went back and watched the Scalpel HT review again as well. Torn, I like the compliance and snappy ride of the Scalpel HT 110 I have but the new DV9 has my attention. SC34 / 120, threaded bb....does the DV9 ride as smooth as the Scalpel HT? Any idea of frame weights between the two? Love your reviews. Thanks.
Trying to decide between the Yeti Arc, Trek Roscoe 9 and NOW this beauty. Also, I hate that these bike companies don't offer more color options at launch
got a pike select in 140mm a set of st swiss 1900s a one up dropper and an enve bar sitting around. Pretty good start at a build. May consider getting a frame. My wife is 5'8" I wander if she could Handle a large? Might just build it up for her and steal it for xc races. lol
Great video! I think most people want a "do-it-all" kind of hardtail. Myself included. I would rather have excess travel for those just in case moments, compared to having a lack of travel, which can be dangerous if a bike is pushed too hard. But I totally agree with what you mentioned: "different bikes are built for different purposes." Certain bikes just shouldn't be sent down rock gardens with wild abandon 😅
Do it alls are very versatile, but they lack a bit of the excitement of a purpose built machine. Kind of like a Subaru outback. Fine vehicle, and very versatile. But not as exciting as a jeep off-road or as exciting as a Porsche on the road. Nice in between, but lacking some excitement.
Thanks for your review! Great work! How is your comparison to the Banshee Paradox? (I drive it in XC setup 12.5 kg = 27.5 lbs, 130mm Fox 34, Conti RaceKing). For rough terrain I still have the Banshee Phantom V1, which I love. The overlap with the Paradox seems a bit big, so I'm thinking of replacing the Paradox with the DV9. Good idea?
Great review as usual. Hopefully Dusty Betty will give her thoughts on it as well. Thanks HP.
She definitely will.
I love my Gen 1 dv9. Did telluride to moab on it last summer. It ruled for everything but the last day doing moab. It couldn't handle (or i couldn't) the rocky downhill.
That's a lot of chunk for a stiff hardtail. Nice work.
@@hardtailparty thanks. I did air down the 2.6 tires which helped a lot. It's a great bike. I appreciate your earlier reviews of it.
I just ordered one. I’m 5’9” and built like you, long torso short legs. Your review sold me. My
Congrats on a rad bike.
What size did you go with ?
@@user-wn9hu5st8i medium since my inseam is 30on
@@edhongkham1497 I'm the same dimensions, any thought of getting the large instead of has the medium been a good fit?
What's up Steve? Wondering if you ever tried the DV9 with a 130 fork? Keep doing what you do.
Considering the geometry, I have a feeling you would love the Norco Fluid HT1. The geo matches almost identically (same head tube and effective seat angles, with 5mm different chainstay), and it comes with full Deore for similar money to the frame only on the DV9. Aluminum is heavier, but has the advantage of sustainability. Its X-Fusion fork is surprisingly capable, too.
Overall, it's somewhere between the Ibis and the Roscoe.
Great review! You recommend sizing up for 5'8-5'9 ish? I'm in between M-L
If I was to buy this bike I would have to make some changes. First, I would buy the largest bike that would fit after I adjusted the saddle all the way forward and installed a 35mm stem. Then, I would instill 1.5* Slack-R headset to get a ~65* HTA. Third, I would ditch the Rekon Race tires and install a 2.6 front Rekon and a 2.6 rear Ikon tire, which is my favorite fast-rolling Trail tire combo. I think that 2.6 tires are ideal for hardtails.
I have a Stanton Sherpa largely due to your reviews and it's fantastic. How does the sherpa compare to the Ibis or is it like comparing apples and oranges?
I vote for you to get experimental on this one.
Im not in the market for a new bike right now just watching for fun. My heart sank when you said the price 😢
This bike screams Northern California ❤
Im struggling to choose size. Im 5’4. my wingspan is an inch longer than my height and my inseam is 30 inch. My small mojo 4 which has 440m reach fits me perfectly using a 35mm stem. Medium dv9 has 434mm reach. Is it safe to assume that a medium dv9 will fit just like a small mojo 4 using the same stem? I know other geo numbers matter but not sure how much
Maybe some tires that are a little grippier than the rekon race.
I love grayish color mixed with the blue. It looks fantastic.
Any of you guys ride the dv9, ripley af, and exie? Which one was your fave if you have?
You made that look too easy on the black diamond Steve. Mad skills!
Thanks, it was surprising how well this little bike handled it.
Really would like to see this with a 130-140 fork and maybe some wider tires and lighter rims
Update: I’m laughing now because I wrote my comments about half way through the video. Hearing your summary, we’re literally using the same words to describe the DV9. It must be true! :-)
I bought the Spot Rocker based on your review of it, and then I bought the DV9 frame as soon as it was available. I built mine up (size Medium, and i’m just shy of 5’9”) with SRAM AXS stuff, a Fox kashima fork, and a nice light wheelset, and for my style of riding, I lean a bit toward the DV9. They’re both so responsive when you put power down, but the DV9 feels more playful and a little more “chill”, for lack of a better word. The front end is *so* easy to get off the ground if I need it up. Can’t go wrong with either though. My experience perfectly mirrors your comments here.
Both are very special bikes with different personalities. I'm glad to hear our experiences match.
Hey, just checking in on how you get along on a size medium? I’m your height (5’8.5”) and my gut tells me to not size up but just looking for a little affirmation.
@@ryanlane4952 It’ll be perfect for you. Love mine.
Can you get your hands on the Cannondale Habit HT 2? It looks promising for a budget bike.
I'd love to know how it compares to the Yeti ARC. The Ibis seems like a similar category bike but better not as expensive as the Yeti. Is it the ARC for non-dentists?
I’d love to know what you think about this compared to the Cotic Solaris Max. I know they aren’t the same but I own the Cotic and really dig it. Amazing review btw!!!
Thanks. I do all me bike comparisons over on Patreon.
Had been looking forward to this review since the first look and it didn’t disappoint. Thanks Steve. Questions:
(1) I’m curious if your comparison of DV9 and Rocker changes when considering single speed.
(2) The frame only option is $500 cheaper than the Rocker, which is important when building a bike.
(3) I’ve noticed the Polygon Syncline has a geometry that fits into this category too. Wondering if you have plans to review it too.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get ahold of Polygon. I've reached out MANY times.
Sliding dropouts are nice for SS, but this could be run as with a tensioner.
I want to see you review a specialized chisel with a 120mm fork I know people are doing it and I like your xc hard tail reviews
It's been extremely difficult for me to get bikes from the big 3 (Specialized, trek, and giant). I've been trying to get one in. Raising the bb isn't always my favorite feeling, but it's worth a try sometime.
Probably worth it, I know how much you like the epic and I’m interested in hearing about how the smart weld Frame feels
I’d be really interested to hear your opinions with 130mm travel and light wheels.
Need a Ibis DV9AF
Can't believe I'm interested in an ibis bike...
I'd like to see you review a specialized chisel w 120mm
I can't believe anyone wouldn't be, they make so many great bikes!
@@Whitewater11 I just find them quite ugly tbh
@@nicholkid I tend to favor functionality/performance over looks for a bike. I'll look good on it if I'm performing great.
Wanna see you getting experimental with this one, maybe an angel set and/or 140 fork, chunky tires...
This bike isn't meant for that type of riding. It's going to lose it's magic that way.
Still waiting for the canyon stoic
You and me both.
@@hardtailparty Hard to get one I know
The stoic is affordable, but the components are a bit too low end :(
@@SirBendercrazy thing is the Santa Cruz Chameleon is opposite this statement. Too pricy and too low end of a build for its price.
@@yamahschector totally agree (it’s the brand), but it really comes with a great frame!
To be honest: I’m searching for a HT trailbike and the Chameleon and the Scout are my favorites. It’s just almost impossible to get the hands on, even for a test ride :(
What’s up htp, I hope your recovery is going well. I’m new to Patreon and just became a patron for two reasons. One is that I’ve been watching your videos for some time and they’re great, thought I would support. The other is I wanted to ask you a question and I don’t know how to contact you on Patreon. Hopefully you can respond when you’re feeling well.
I have spinal cord compressions in my neck and a bunch of low back issues. However, I’ve been flirting between two bikes, the DV9 and the paradox V3. I have a 3zero moto wheelset going on either Bike.
Should I scrap the hardtail idea because of my back or could I have a decent time on one of these two bikes? It Will be complimenting an epic evo.
You can shoot me a direct message over on patreon and we can chat 1:1
This bike is at the top if my list. I am 74in tall. Just trying to decide on which size. Large or extra large?
Hey I'd like to hear your opinion on the Canyon Stoic!
I wish ibis would spec better hubs. I had to have my Ibis label rear hub replaced with a better hub because the lack of engagement too annoying. Not something I would have expected on an expensive set of S35 carbon wheels. Even my cheap aluminum Spank wheels have better engagement.
I’m guessing the water bottle position on the frame was spaced for ibis’ brand carbon fiber water bottle cage
would love to see how a 130 fork affects your feel of this bike...
i believe you talked while climbing up ground control.
The geo numbers on paper are extremely similar to the neuhaus hummingbird.
Tested model have the GX group? Sorry I didn’t listen. Haha. I’m thinking of dumping my 22 stumpjumper for this is GX or SLX
Can you spec the DV9 with rigid seatpost and 100mm fork then do a comparison with the trail spec 120mm? 🤭
How does it compare to the Yeti Arc?
Which is your favorite between this and the Yeti ARC?
Just bought one. I can confirm, the dropper/lever is trash. The tube in tube hose routing is also irritatingly noisy. Other than that it’s pretty cool. Not as harsh as I was expecting.
I’m about 5” taller than you and still went with the medium. I ride tight/twisty Midwest single track. I’m not a fan of long/low/slack for what we have here. The large is too long. I wonder why they made such a gap between the medium and large. Something in between would have been perfect.
Is this as good as the State Bike Klunker for trail riding?
How does this compare to the Yeti Arc?
What is the offset on fox fork ? Website doesnt say.
How's the posture? aggressive or a little more upright?
I feel like single speed with a 130 fork would be so good!
Spot Rocker! Gates Belt. 130mm Fork. Glorious.
Still want to see you review the Pivot LES... A little more XC, but surprisingly capable and begs for pedaling.
I've ridden a few but not on the channel. I'll see if I can get one in
Is there a quick release hub with good engagement? I would kove to upgrade my kona but it has that older 135mm hub in the back. 😅
Sure. Chris King is the first one that comes to mind but there are lots out there.
Guys I need help before Saturday please
I’m in between a commencal meta ht or a San Quentin 2 both are the same price point I checked out the sq2 today but I wasn’t a fan of it riding standing up I felt cramped I’m 5 11 and it was a large. I’ve wanted a commencal for a while too both 2023 please help