Prometheus Script Reveals TRUTH about Engineers, Black Goo and Deacon
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2018
- I recently enjoyed reading the script for the movie Prometheus and I found many interesting details that I wanted to share with you.
Script [UPDATED LINK]: docplayer.net/54299743-Prometh...
The script is more or less the same as the movie, however, many scenes and dialogues are extended and reveal TRUTH about Engineers, their origins and home world, why they created humans and also about the nature and the true purpose of the black goo. The script is over 150 pages so I’m only going over things that are not included in the movie and there Aare lots of them which is why the video is pretty long but it’s totally worth it since we finally get answers for basically everything. All engineer dialogs and writings in the script are translated so we are getting a clear understanding things without over theorizing.
The script is written by Damon Lindelof and the awakened engineer is referred in conversations as the Last Engineer.
THE ELDER Take this. This is the blood of our lord. For we cannot create as the gift was stripped from us long ago. As always we will continue our attempts to create a perfect Eden much like our own. You, the chosen one will create it in your own image.
Let your body become the dirt. Your blood become the waters. And may your soul become their way back to us
There are lots of interesting details that are brought up in this dialog. First we learn that the substance in the sealed cup is the blood of their lord which really intrigued me when I first read it. I wouldn’t say the substance is completely gold in the movie, however it certainly has some golden shades. But most importantly we get a confirmation that it’s not the black go. Another thing is that the elder was thousands of years old. All of these new elements are addressed later in the script so we will get back to them.
DAVID reads in engineer language Only the chosen can pass through. This is sacred ground and must be kept sacred. If you dare to cross into sacred ground you must be punished. This is the birth place of our lord and no being is worthy
Holloway arrives around the BACK of the monument and shines his light up at another MURAL which has been embedded on the wall. A strange BEING unlike any ENGINEER is drawn on the MURAL. It has it's arms out in a cross. Around the MURAL it shows an IMAGE of an engineer being ATTACKED and impregnated by some NASTY looking OCTOPUS type CREATURE. The being with it's arms stretched out is a bipedal POINTY-HEADED creature - the first “DEACON”.
DAVID (Engineer language) Our lord came from the chosen one in the time when our ancestors birthed life. His sacred blood was our salvation. His sacred blood through our lips birthed life on other worlds.
DAVID I am not entirely certain, but I believe the humanoid seen being attacked orally gave birth to this being and your Engineers worshiped it. I believe what is ever inside these capsules might be some kind of experiment. If my translation is correct then they were trying to recreate the blood of this being whom they worshiped.
Recall that the elder engineer said in the beginning:
"we cannot create as the gift was stripped from us long ago. As always we will continue our attempts to create a perfect Eden much like our own."
Despite the fact that engineers could live for thousands of years, they were slowly dying off and their only way to prevent extinction was to seed with life other planets using the blood of the first deacon.
They were traveling through space seeding planets with life in an attempt to recreate their homewolrd, but the blood of the first deacon was running out.
It appears that these beings can live up to three hundred thousand years old. They use to be able to mate with each other just like humans. But somewhere in their late history they evolved and lost the ability to both mate and reproduce. But before they did they found a creature that impregnated one of them with a foreign body. A creature came from him. They called it the Deacon. They worshiped this deacon and after it's death they used its blood to plant the seeds of life on other worlds. The blood ran out of course but they tried to recreate the gene pool of this Deacon's blood but they instead created something else. That is what I brought back with me, sir.
Much later in the script when Weyland, David, shaw and some other crew members approach the sleeping engineer, David explains that dispite the fact the black goo was the failed attempt of clonning the blood of the first deacon, engineers realized it’s potential for weapons.
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"Did you put your name into the Goblet of fire!?!" The engineer asked calmly before gently ripping David's head off.
Rings a bell..
i chuckled. this one's classic. good one friend.
*"I TOLD YOU NOT TO PUT YOUR FUCKIN' NAME IN"* _CRUNCH_
You gotta give props to the director and screenwriters, was not expecting the sudden deviation from the novels like that
*C* *A* *L* *M* *L* *Y*
If these Engineers are so evolved, why are they so violently? You would think that they would have some curiosity about their creation having the ability to reach them millions of light years away. Instead, he rips one guys head off and crushes another, then kills a couple more. I would say he’s having a bad hair day, but he hasn’t got any so maybe he just got up on the wrong side of the bed.
Amazing how a 13 minute clip makes a 2 hour long movie make sense.
Censorship is a pain ... glad some kind soul leaked the original
It can even be shortened even more by putting it on 1.5 playback speed.
Hans Alib I actually played it faster to get around the narrators slow and spaced talking.
@@superdutyzack I hope he realizes how boring he sounds that way.. not the cryptic type he wishes to achieve.
@@hansalib2710 I like the narrator. It's very relaxing to listen to, and he doesn't come off as pretentious or anything to me. I don't feel a need to rush through his stuff because I like to think about every detail he reveals. Just my opinion.
"We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open...
Fear the old blood."
- Master Willem
Bloodborne... you are a man of culture I see.
This reminds me of how I had to watch a video to fully understand the story of bloodborne lol
Beasts all around the shop... soon enough you will become one of them...
In this situation
Fear the artificial blood
So appropriate
I freaking love the alien quadrillogy and Prometheus and covenant but this script read made me realize how Prometheus could have been mindblowingly awesome. Damn
It had great potential to pull together all the related movies, but missed the mark by a mile.
@@krane15 you're right, ridley scott didn't realise the potential of the script
@@sea2blu he was swayed by fans and ended up ruining it
I think that the unanswered questions, the mystery, is what made Prometheus a great movie--these extra script pieces would make it feel so trite and like it was hitting us over the head. The poetry is in Wayland and Shaw getting to the outer reaches to get their answers and getting nothing but more mystery.
@@omega311888 I heard it was the studio that insisted on the changes not the fans
Perfect if you set the playback speed to 1.25.
Thank you, what a differance I couldn't have watched it all the way through without the speed change 🤦
Thank you!
Perfect.
HOLY SHIT... that worked so well!
This needs to be the first comment!
I’m so intrigued by this universe, the Engineers, Xenomorphs, Predators, the synthetics, literally all of it is so interesting to me.
Engineers were probably real
Predators arent cannon to the Alien movies.
@@Drinkwateritsgood4u you shaddup!
They're from another Galaxy.
Did you know the blade runner universe is the same as the alien universe? Thought you might enjoy this info
@@buffybuffalo2975 whaatttt rlly???
The themes of sterilization, infection, and parasitism represent a deeper horror than any particular space monster, or space god. They represent our fears about our own reproductive functions. They also represent life at the viral level.
The storyline would have been better suited for a Netflix series where all the ideas could be fleshed out, instead of a convoluted 2 hour movie.
More like HBO, Netflix takes this political correctness crap way too far
Just not on netflix.
...and a different narrator.
Please.
I'll come back for the story after that.👋
If it got the Raised by Wolves treatment it'd have been a success.
No
Can they just make a movie called "The Engineers" PLEASE!
OMG PLEASE!!!!!!!
I hope not, this script confirms how bad the idea behind all this was. Jesus, seriously ? How original. The idea of sending only one guy to "educate" others is so stupid and pathetic. These Engineers seem to be very stupid, why not educate the first humans and if they did, why expect better results with just one "educated" guy.
I already see so many implausibilities without even giving second thoughts, I don't see how this story would not en up ridiculed even more by the fans.
So the passion of the christ is tied into Prometheus, wow what a fucking twist
Since they refuse to put subtitles in their movies and the engineers are speaking Proto-Indo-European that would be difficult
@@En_theo Tell me, when have you seem a Hollywood movie that makes sense?
"Your kind is barbaric, and violent!"
-The Last Engineer
*Then, Rips David's head off, and attempts to destroy Earth.*
It's funny how every time someone says humans are barbaric in fiction they then proceed to try killing all life on earth
It's called "projection" common human psychological defense mechanism. "I do this because you do it first" childish mentality. It's how many countries react.
The engineer said "you talk to me of hate, prepare for rapture." So as the engineer previously explained, it wasn't unwarranted.
Engineers = super jerk offs
Hahahaha I literally laughed out loud
My feeble brain can't comprehend the logic behind leaving all of this incredible, world building, thought provoking content out of the finale movie.
Believe me, it was all made up AFTER the film was made. Hollywood's found a way to squeeze money out of their audience's confusion.
It’s all pretty much exposition, which is generally considered bad writing. It’s interesting to alien fans, but it wouldn’t necessarily make a good movie. At this point I just don’t think RS and/or whatever the production team is is capable of making a coherent film
So if I got this right it still doesn’t make the original alien or even AVP retconned as the sacrificed engineer was still impregnated by a face hugger and the subsequent deacon/alien contained. What David did was breed/experiment with black goo until he got back to a face hugger egg which gives rise to baseline alien drones
Knowing the details of the original script makes all of this so much more satisfying.
A day late and a dollar short. The movie needs to stand on its own.
The alien lore has got to be one of the best out there. It's the perfect mix of nostalgia, overwhelming creepiness yet also absolutely intriguing, invoking curiosity, and discovery as well. Perfect sci-fi in my opinion.
@AgainstTheSystem .ATS yeah a little bit lol 😅 hopefully they make a comeback soon.
Harry Nguyen well said !
Very well said.
Enlightening info, but frustrating just the same. We missed out on seeing a CLASSIC sci-fi film.
@Budo Ka I feel like when it became a franchise. It's really hard to not explain their origins. I'm okay with knowing their origins but it has to be done right. I personally thought if they didn't have the alien bits in Covenant and added all the deleted scenes back it would've been a much better movie.
So basically, Ridley Scott edited out every part of the movie that would have made it make sense. Then he made Covenant. Ridley has gone senile.
MadbatThe1st or maybe “Hollywood” didn’t like the idea of Jesus as the murdered savior of humanities creators for some, weird, completely unknown reason. Hollywood. Totally unknown reason why that would rub them the wrong way.
The script suffered a Censorship review!
Doesnt take a Rocket Cientist to reach that conclusion!
@@xenophonicus Jesus you guys are pathetic. Just say what you mean you spineless prick, then we can see in the bright light of day just how insane you actually are...
_'the Jews censored him!'_
Sure they did. Now take your pills and have a lie down for nursie.
@@serenemountain6769 You mean you're not a rocket scientist? I am shocked, shocked to my core.
@@thesprawl2361 no insult intended! its a figure of speach...
alien producers: so how much christian symbolism do you want
alien writers: yes
Because they are demons they live to copy
@@silvijakucej3696 I'm a Catholic actually
lol religion.
Cry more
@@delightk i...never said i disliked it lol
I gotta say, the complete story is much more satisfying than the ambiguity of the finished product.
It works exactly like magic. When u know the tricks, it satisfies u.
wtf.... why wasn't this in the damn movies lol this sounds great .
Because of the attention defecit that this country suffers from. Can't take anything longer than 90 minutes and they start suffering from tv junk withdrawls.
Moonbeam444 i love both Prometheus and Covenant, they are different yet the same, great sequel continuation of David's story
i liked them both too. but this sounds way better.
mjxbox i like it as it explains some things but I knew all of this without having to read the script or watch this video. the only thing that caught me a bit by surprise is that they stole a kid human and then returned it to then find out he was crucified, because I thought it was way too on the nose, i could had done without that part and that's why I prefer Ridley's more mysterious and pretentious vibe of the film.
IKR...they should've stuck to this...but i guess they wanted to keep it mysterious to be able to milk various movies out of this great script
I really enjoyed Prometheus. I will never understand how people think it's horrible. Different strokes I guess.
Yea, I think Prometheus and Covenant are the best films in the franchise, but I'm really disappointed things like stuff in this video were not in the movies.
Ridley Scott likes making movies with more questions than answers. I like movies like that. I agree that some things could have been presented in the sequel at least.
Just because this was not in the movie does not mean there were not other things in it, does it...
Couldn't agree more.. i loved the direction the story is going... and the overall look and feel of the movie is quite mysterious and isolated which i love.
It needed a battle and more questions answered. Read fire and stone/ life and death. Thats how a movie should be made
So crazy intrigued with the engineers. Unfortunate that they just refuse to elaborate on them and continue to just keep throwing more xenomorph variants at us.
I love it when science fiction & Mythology, ancient history & the Bible all meet in one story! My kind of writing!
The concept is interesting af for sure but the actual execution in the movie was just whatever
Science fiction, mythology and ancient history, then!
As a former christian, I've been trying to reimagine the bible through a sci-fi, ancient alien lens. There are a lot of interesting paths it can go down
@@ismu34 why a former Christian?
Correction: pseudo science fiction. Its a hint of science fiction in the form of "stuff to complicated for views to understand" so we won't bother trying to explain it. What?
I cant even begin to compregend how they thought removing this from the movie was a good idea.
Kakarikoo Kalikoo To stop the masses disconnecting from the reality of slavery. Just like most films, books and history. One huge cover up to stop Man finding his true meaning and to stop Man ending Satan.
To dull out more sequels
Scott and Lindelof wanted to leave room for a sequel, which turned out to be Alien: Covenant (which I haven't seen).
Probably just coincidence that it was all the Christian stuff that was dropped.
Paul Casey coincidence? Oh come on. That’s too convenient. This blatantly has a true origin and holds clues. Read between the lines mate. These companies don’t just spend millions of dollars to make a film. There is a hidden agenda. You don’t need money when you make it, so I’ll let that sink in and see if you can grasp where that line is going. Money doesn’t make the world go round: Blood does.
Because it has kept interest in the franchise consistent even untill today....everyone is here watching this video and reflecting on the information everyone was searching for....that's how you make a movie that never dies.....I don't think they wanted anyone getting the script tho....it was to be a movie of riddles that would riddle the viewer for years hopefully.
David is equally scary as the engineers. He killed another race and killed Elizabeth. I think he still have a role in all of Ellen Ripley's movie. It struck me when he was talking to a young weyland in the covenant and said "You will die but I will live forever". His the main villain in this movie as much as the xenomorphs.
The inscriptions throughout- in the temple, on the door, on the face of the statue, & in the brief shot of the golden cup, are all evocative of Sumerian cuneiform script. I’m sure others caught that.
I think it would be better if they made a NETFLIX SERIES about the Engineers, the origins of the Xenomorphs, and all that alien lore... I think the problem is that there's SO MUCH MATERIAL, so MUCH HISTORY, so MUCH STORY and LORE that all of it CAN'T FIT in one movie or even in a trilogy!!
i agree totally
HBO would do justice to this lore
I think that’s essentially what went wrong with Star Wars. I’d love to see something like that because I love Lore, but I’d be apprehensive.
Lore is real booting, 2021
HBO only. Want the engineers suddenly turned out to be African-American trans lesbians of Asian descent?
So basically Prometheus is a make shift rendition of the sumerian stories of our creation.
Yes
Disappointed
Sounds like it.
@@a.citizen7668 I know right.
I wish they would just make a movie of the Lost book of Enki. Word for word best they can. Instead of dancing around in circles giving us nonesense trickle versions of the stories.
I like the idea of the Engineers trying to recreate God (the original Deacon) and creating the Devil (the other Deacon) instead.
cazyazzdude you simplified that perfectly!! 👐👐
At last. The voice of reason. Spot on crazyazzdude. You nailed it.
the Xeno is the "snake" in the garden of Eden...
nice one🐛
In the end, thats how it came to be. They finally made Eden until humans decided to desecrate it so they made The Devil. Humans damnation is the engineers salvation
This makes the movie even more disappointing, the failure to convey any of this is pathetic, I appreciate this video more then you can ever imagine.
The director failed to deliver any of the important factors to audience, it is like they only bothered to go through the motions and leave everything else to interpretation based on the vagueness, so much potential for a great story lost/
Seconded, I hope for a series which can explore all of this in detail, I think it would be interesting and entertaining.
So true
facts!! I was so disappointed by the second movie.. especially after hearing they were planning to make 5 of them. Thought they were gonna build and expand onto everything they left unanswered in the first movie but it just collapsed into nothing.. So grateful for this video for explaining what the story should have been
The blood of Jesus...this movie is blasphemy. Not original, and revealing the truth would have ousted it.
@@Sebastian1flevor what was the second one
Thank you for posting this! It seems that there are multiple storylines that could be taken with this information to make an incredible movie. The engineers are by far the most fascinating aspect of this and really needs to be explorer further
It all makes so much sense now. They should have explained it all in the movie. Perhaps, eventually take down David and read all his data which reveals everything he translated and knew of the history.
Wow you fucking idiots. The original script Alien Engineers was available years ago. I read it shortly after Prometheus came out so none of this was new to me.
Mr 350z Nismo - It's been available on the internet for years, everyone had access to it.
Henbot is the kinda guy who says shit like told ya, and i was first
Henbot Fuck you troll!
I kinda got the jist of it from watching Prometheus. Some of y'all need videos like this to spell everything out but it was pretty straight forward
Aaaaaaa.... This young man spent time and MADE this video for us.. He did a FINE job of narration... THANK YOU, Kroft.. I learned a BUNCH of things with this one!! Looking forward to the next one, brother!
so this video entertains you? do you play dolls and toy guns also. you are a total JOKE blasphemer! ha ha mike
That indeed he did, very fine and detailed job.
So this script debunks his theory that David doesn’t destroy the engineer homeworld, but another race created by the engineers:
“Yours [life on earth] was the only one that was successful”
Congratulations for digging this out and doing all the work. This is in fact interesting. Thank you.
"A box; simple but complex design"
it's a pretty dick move for a writer to hand this description to the art department.
JackDManheim not really I think just look at the cube from hell raiser. It is very simplistic while still retaining some complex and intricate line work. All in all a box with gold and black markings.
Not that hard, after all here in the US we apparently have "clean coal".
Paul Douglas ...lol
JackDManheim thats what I always get as a 3d modeler
ya also make it round with square angles.
and while we're at it make it light,but dark.
Never noticed before that the design on the box given from the ancient engineer to the sacrificial one strongly resembles an apple (from the tree of life?).
fun fact - the fruit of knowledge was a grape
@@silviafox78 it was a pomegranate
@@Superabound2 - That is based on the legends associating the pomegranate with knowledge of the underworld such as provided in the Ancient Greek legend of Persephone. However the midrash of Bereishit Rabah states that the fruit was grape, or squeezed grapes (perhaps alluding to wine). Also chapter 4 of 3 Baruch, also known as the Greek Apocalypse of Baruch, designates the fruit as the grape. Rabbi Meir, a Jewish sage who lived in the time of the Mishna, also says that the fruit was a grape, made into wine.
I thought apple too, then there is a close up which is not so apple like. It would have been great if they dropped this reference in.
@@silviafox78 A midrash is just a late commentary of the text. No of this actually happened anyway, but I like the pomegranate version more.
Sometimes keeping people guessing about what’s going on in a movie makes the movie better but, this is a case where the real story overpowers any guessing that your left wondering about!
And yet here we are, years later still talking about it…
Prometheus so underrated. Needs a sequel.
I really enjoyed the movie.
U probably saw alien: Covenant right?!
Amazing script, I loved it. If Ridley had made the Prometheus as per this script then the movie would had been a smash hit, everyone would had loved it.
I doubt it. The themes this movie deals with are heady and lofty, not the average moviegoer's muse. More's the pity.
The original Jon Spaihts script Paradise would have been a great movie, Prometheus is the Damon Lindelof version after Fox Executives said no to spot on space Jesus.
@Anthony Swiss Indeed this would have made many christians mad, it made me mad and i called it "a piece of shit of literature that doesn't make a locking of sense"... and literature doesn't have to make sense...
That's the funny thing.
where did the engineers score their steroids
If you look at the "box" at 03:10 it looks very similar to the sumerian text.
they had their own planet fitness
@@DimiArt LOOOOL , pun intended lol.😂😂😂😂
px90
I believe MLB or NFL...Barry Bonds or Mark MacGuire?...you know the whole huge arms and balls the size of snow peas routine?..right...shrinks your junk...Then your stuck looking for an Alien to procreate with ...BTW where are the ugly ass female engineers?
Every time I watch this video, the more I believe that you should write a script for it. Fantastic interpretation my friend, excellent content, made the film much better because now it makes more sense, you have my respect!
This has been driving nuts for years. Glad I stumbled upon this and got my answers. Thank you
Now everything is clearer with the plot, it makes sense and everything connected rather than speculated. Personally I love when movies don't explain in detail everything so you have an opportunity to imagine, to think about what you saw and listen to new theories about the movie. I hope you could find the Alien Covenant script, you never know what you could find over there ;). Awesome video like always
+Henbot let me guess... Like so many other re-fucking-tarded dipshits in the YT comments sections who can barely spell, you have a really high IQ, the earth is flat, and we all need to "do our research". Blecch... I know I'm stupid. What's your excuse?
+ Anton Makov
Yeah, but when they explain too little, the audience can mistake their attempt to intrigue us as just poor writing & directing. Damn Ridley! Prometheus would have been a lot more popular if he had just given us some of this sh*t!
Pineal Dreams you nailed it!
ZatoichisCaneSword! The earth is flat.
woow. all this makes so much sense, This would also explain why "engineers" in AC looked so much different. They were just some creation of the already extinct engineers.
My only problem with that is that the Engineer told Elizabeth that Earth was the only successful experiment out of all the many his ancestors had attempted. That would mean that the engineers in AC were the same as in Prometheus.
shinre Not exactly because in the video the script states how the engineers create life and then that life is to come find them or something like that. I think this is what the last engineer meant when he said that humans were the only successful ones. They were the only ones to come find them. I have a feeling that the race from AC was too primitive to find their engineer creators.
Tanner Smith
Ummm they hated us before we tried to find them.
They wanted to wipe us out why we were still technologically primitive.
So based off of this script, the engineers in AC must be a different sort of race just like how the last engineer looked different from the ones in the opening scene.
AC was a rewrite to appease fans for Prometheus's short comings.
Remove the religious BS and this script sounds better.
Planting one person in an isolated area of the world while other civilizations existed all over the planet is a dumb decision to be made by an intelligent civilization.
This is one movie that NEEDED the entire script acted out!!!!!
Thanks for sharing the draft script and some of the missing dialogue, very helpful in explaining the nuances of a great franchise
Actually makes me angry and sad at the same time just thinking about how phenomenal this film could have been. It was neither horror or action. It was a classic scifi exploration type lovecraft type story.
I hate that in the 21st century studios wont allow films that have budgets over 100 million to become rich with stories.
"peepol dont want story or themes. They want action and cheap horror tropes and splosions"
SCOTTISH_ _NUTJOB you would really like Blade Runner 2049. It is my movie of 2017 and personally my favorite movie in a long time. One of the best sci films hands down
Aliquid Gaming
Listen after watching your videos and subscribing I gave it a go after your reply and. . . Fucking hell. The blade runner fanboy in me wanted to hate it but the reality is that the blade runner fanboy in me fucking absolutely loved every second of it. I agree it is hands down the best scifi film i have seen in a very long time. Next to the netflix show The Expanse, blade runner 2049 has given me a new hope for hard scifi
if you liked Blade Runner 2049, you should watch the new series on Netflix, Altered Carbon. It definitely has a cyberpunk detective noir feel to it and similar visuals.
EXACTLY
Same with Alien Covenant
I keep hearing of scripts and stories of what this movie could have truly been like. While I love Prometheus, it still feels like it didn't know what it wanted to be.
Now I want to know more about the original Deacon.
Matthew Huttle me too
A nice deacon is unimaginable after all we have seen but so freaking interesting to know about .
A parasite is a parasite, does it matter how nice it is? Wouldn't being nice just be another evolutionary strategy to get the hosts to accept parasitism...
It very likely to be a parallel and polar opposite as the Deacon in the film. That there so much the same yet so much opposite.
they should make a movie about that that .Title -- The Origin of All life
The point is - The movie should have been self explanatory to the first time movie goer. You cannot watch a movie, Not figure it out and come backs months later after digging thru the Archives to explain a story. This is very poor editing and not very good story telling. I still cannot figure out what the movie is about? That states the whole problem, right there....
I completely agree with you. And, it seems to be a tendency nowadays. More and more movies are depending on other media to fully tell a story.
It's ok if they want to expand something, or even fill a few gaps, from the movie with books, cartoons, and comics, but they're using other media to finish a poorly tell story.
It's so lame...
I understood the entire movie was alot longer and included scenes about the old man and the Android, before they left earth? It looks like the Director or whoever , finished the movie, Got Paid and let someone else Edit the Movie and could care less....??
Maybe Disney star wars movies are more your speed. The intent of the movie entails a lack of knowing and mystery. Let your imagination do some filling in instead of being spoon fed cgi money grabs (like the aforementioned Disney star wars movies).
The movie is about the struggle of life and death, those who seek to rise above that struggle are arrogant, and will be cast down by life. Those who create life and do not care for it are equally doomed.
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Maybe this video will explain some things better.
I hope we get a proper real sequel to Prometheus, ignoring Covenant completely.
I can see why they had to cut some of the dialogue and story, people would have melted down with a clear reference to Christianity in any way. Awesome though, unfortunate so much of that was cut especially with the engineer conversation with David and Weyland. It would have added so much context, foundation.
I find it sad when movies like this are gutted. If they added another 20-30 mins to the film it could've been so much better.
Ollie Barbor true but even tho they cut it out it left us wanting more and wanting to know more. So it worked
@@xyoungdipsetx I guess we will just have to wait 10-20 years for a directors cut
You say clear reference to Christianity but it could honestly be referring to anything, including many leading religions. Could have been Socrates. I personally choose to think it was Socrates since he was killed for corrupting the youth and introducing the people to strange Gods. They forced him to drink hemlock. The imagery of him drinking Hemlock is similar to the engineer drinking the lords blood. Anyway, just my thoughts! I’m off to rewatch this movie with all this extra context.
@@jeremyphelps5140 I say that because of the chirstmas tree and baby Jeebus scene that was cut. Some other context was removed. I agree though, they could have done Socrates or similar to get a similar effect. Missing that context guts the movie.
Play it at 1.25x speed. You're welcome.
You sir are a legend ty :D
Baron Von Boom love his videos but...
watched it at 2x, narrator talks too slowly
thank you mannn!!
1.5 is better
Omg I’ve seen this movie a hundred times and imagined a million scenarios and could never figure out what it all means????... but then I watch this video and suddenly it all makes sense. Thank you 🙏🏻
is there a part 2? very good video. thank you!
I loved Prometheus and Alien Covenant. But i really want to see more about the Engineers.
Prometheus was good, Covenant was crap.
Charlie Evans - You're more insecure than a cat being hunted by a big dog.
For me that whole movie was about the engineers. who cares about the 'aliens' or whatever they are called, too many movies about them. move on
Covenant broke my heart
Yes I was kinda disappointed we didn’t see that much of them. The film was alright but it was mostly exploring a cave and didn’t explain too much about the start of the film
Engineers cannot reproduce, just like Elizabeth. This plot makes a lot of sense.
Luneque Silva Junior And yet if you think about it, she is the true mother of the Deacon from the end of the movie. That Deacon came from the Trilobite which she gave birth to. I wonder if that fact would have played a role in the original sequel to Prometheus. Such interesting stuff. It's such a shame Ridley changed directions of the story and went with the absolutely most boring route he could possibly have chosen.
Possibly a flaw in evolution evolving to have incredibly long life counters the need to reproduce ultimately creating their own extinction
Maybe they are all clones . I mean they all look alike . And they use the black goo to reproduce ?
motown ..did you even watch the video?
Chugvrath yes but we don’t know how they reproduce . And they all look the same . Maybe not with the black goo but with the original .
This answered basically every question I had and made this universe even more exciting. Best video in the subject yet!
Something with what you have talked about the "hate part" made me sad, in the sense that all loving creatures give out love and healing but this world hates it at some point that the healers and givers grow out of compassion to them, giving it to themselves instead.
Anybody else notice that the engineer writing looked EXACTLY like Sumerian Cuneiform?!...
I thought so too and very appropriately used to add more depth to the story.
I noticed as well. Think it’s there like Salomón suggested, for depth.
Yeah it looks very much like Akkadian
It is Sumerian. I was working on a script about the Annunaki and accidentally ran into the head FX artist of "Prometheus" outside of a bar, because I jokingly wanted a fire for my cigarette and asked him "Do You Have Prometheus?" So you can imagine his surprise. He told me about the movie (more so than his disclosure agreement probably allowed him) and he explained that in the movie they were using the Sumerians as the original people who were contacted by ETs.
Paul Brosam I agree it was definitely added to add more depth to this story.
What would have been had this info been fleshed out in the movie. How many people felt shafted from Covenant for this stuff. smh
Ridley doesn't give a shit anymore. Sad...
Sadly too much was cut beforehand or on cutting room floor, fleshed out elsewhere in interviews and/or novelization. You can't get that while in the theater. Yes mystery is fun as long as it's not at the expense of that finite amount of time when the audience sees the same presentation. You can't rely on audiences doing pre and post homework, especially if it comes across lacking or illogical and they stop caring.
Damon Lindelof confirmed that this was a fake script in November 2012. It was 'leaked' to a Prometheus fansite, who reached out to Lindelof (who was still on Twitter then) for comment. He said: 'Nope. Not mine. Even if you loved it, I can't take credit for it.'
It's a well known fake in Prometheus fan circles and is referred to as the 'Draft 17' or 'orange' script.
Can't believe so many people fall for it. The writing in the linked "script" is very VERY bad. It reads like an adolescent narration of the movie with a truckload of errors that should be obvious to anyone who has ever read anything by an actual writer.
How people can fall for this when it's so badly written, I'll never understand. Deacon was the production nickname for the xenomorph, they didn't call it that in the film, ever.
@@asshatzeppeli208 The fake script was written AFTER the documentary came out. It appeared in Nov 2012, a month after the documentary.
Love your videos man!👌🏻
dude seriously well done. one of the only youtube commentaries which makes sense of a beautiful, thought provoking movie with alot of grey plot holes. well done bud👍👍👍
Its also interesting, because in the original Alien movie 1979 directors cut the xenomorph is hanging in a cross position right befor it kills Brett. same as the picture on wall ;)
"Damon Lindelof confirmed that this was a fake script in November 2012. It was 'leaked' to a Prometheus fansite, who reached out to Lindelof (who was still on Twitter then) for comment. He said: 'Nope. Not mine. Even if you loved it, I can't take credit for it.'
It's a well known fake in Prometheus fan circles and is referred to as the 'Draft 17' or 'orange' script."
Really,can you give the link?
Thank you so much for sharing this.
I can almost say, “Ah, I get it now.”
Will need to watch more of your videos.
Have a blessed day.
I think Promethues was the BEST movie in the entire series and totally pumped new life into the Alien Franchise ....I was looking forward to see the engineers home world and finding out why and how they made us.... THEN the alien fan boys complained so much that theres wasn't enough Aliens in Prometheus Ridley Scott changed the whole script to create another OLD Alien shoot em up... which was bitterly disappointing to everyone i knew that saw it.... to me the engineers are fascinating and I hope for the sake of the movies Ridley ignores the idiots and continues his prometheus series how he intended !
Khaos969 i m totally agree with you
Im a alien fan boy and i loved promethues and hated covenant..
Khaos969 totally agree. Those idiots are the only reason why we got the abomination called covenant. Seriously fuck those selfish idiots!
I think saying Prometheus was best is going a bit too far. I would put it high on the list though. Covenant was absolutely disappointing totally agree.
Khaos969 well now in the 3rd film, we can get their home world
Why why why would the production team remove this? 😣 what were they thinking!?
MACK Too much inferance that one of the religions on Earth was from outerspace. there are "conspiracy" folks that think aliens helped earth..yes this is a movie.
most likely, focus groups or maybe staff that are religious may have viewed this as an insult. or a crack at 'that' religion.
strictly from a sci fi point, it seems facinating as a plot. but as i said, some would view it as an attack/ridicule of their beliefs.
I reckon it was to prevent closure. Let's people think about it more
I think that the reason is to have a good, solid, untold backstory. But at the same time to have that feeling of mystery without which the movie would just be too obvious. People love the mistery!
Imagine the backlash if the Engineer that came back was Mohammed and they went along and keep it in the movie. Muslims would be so pissed.
Because it's too focused on Christianity, and religion in general. The way they made it is more mysterious, and makes people dig deeper into the meaning of all the happenings. Dig deeper in the lore. It makes it better overall in my opinion.
I loved to watch this video that confirmed my feelings about this movie (that I LOVE). Considering the dates and all the divine sub-themes I already thought that the movie was the story of and evil nativity. With the elements you bring here I think it's confirmed ;)
My! I'd love to read that script!!!
I love these movies and always wondered about all this thanks so much .. makes it so much better to understand the storyline I literally jus watched ALL the movies in order. Glad I stumbled across your videos. Hope u do this about the new alien series coming up on FX.
I love watching these videos before bed. Your sleepy voice with its lack of enthusiasm helps a lot.
This would have made the movie like a million times better! And like, it wasnt BAD to begin with. But with this original script, it just would have been a cut above.
The first time I've watched this movie I was clueless of all the symbolism and can't quite pick up what the movie is all about. I only know it is some kind of an origin from the movie aliens. I like the movie but the only problem is that I am clueless most of the time watching the movie.
1.25x speed is bearable talking speed
It's not just the speed. He emphasized ever other word not much different from a text to speech program. Really unfortunate when you want to explain something complex in over 10 minutes.
Thanks
Really didn't care, it is 3 am tho so maybe if I was awake this would have been less bearable.
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH. MY HEAD WAS STARTING TO HURT.
Thanks
This is why the thing his drinks in the opening scene doesn't really look like the black goo in the vases later on, it's actually the real blood of their lord
nokia6630videos and their lord was like
The first type of xenomorph or decon whatever that is? Pretty ironic after all..
Anthony Swiss I think thats it. Pretty crazy dont you think? Also what would happen if we somehow attained some of Jesus blood, analyzed it, and found out that Jesus did in fact have a biological dad? Wouldnt that prove that christianity is a hoax? 😁
Turtle TwisT , actually Italian scientists did test the blood off the shroud, and proved he did not have a Dad.
Strange who the movie leaves you open to so many conclusions but never gave me the story you present here. Thank you!
Amazing breakdown thank you. Interesting that they didn't include translations for the Engineers, I guess it makes it seem more open ended that way but in the end I think it would've made more sense to include it.
Extremely fascinating stuff! I’ve never heard about these ideas before and I really hope they make a third movie in this prequel trilogy and explore these ideas.
"I'm not saying it's aliens, but its aliens"
Nah the sequel to prequel of the original ( jee's try saying that when you are drunk ) is pretty much a rehash of the sequel to the original, is that clear?
Thank you so much for providing us all with the script, it's just amazing.
Nice man. You nail it. Great vid.
WOW! This is so great! Please make another video, like this.
i wonder if the original deacon was actually a creature of life, non violent, a complete opposite of the xenomorphs we know
I'm betting it was, but the Engineers fucked up and were punished by the gods for trying to recreate them. And so the blood was flipped on it's head, instead of a beautiful life giving deacon, they got an ugly life destroying deacon.
Arcturus Blake in which way
Exactly! ?????? We'll never kno I guess
barak219 Antichrist?
Your Cringey Gamer I don’t think they got destroyed by gods , considering there’s surely no gods and ( the only kind of thing that is the closest from a god is maybe the black goo) .Also , from the engineers point of view , the deacon was their lord and it’s weird while while being very interesting .
EXCELLENT JOB, VERY WELL DONE! You explained this to a tee, thank you for sharing this, very interesting, SUBSCRIBED FOR SURE!!!!
The bowl the young engineer was given, With the markings on it.. kinda looks like cuneiform 🤷🏽♀️🤔🧐
Yup
Hey Kroft thanks for making these videos. I really like this movie and love hearing your analyses. It's much appreciated.
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Script: www.prometheus2-movie.com/uploads/PROMETHEUS.pdf
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So the script is absurd.
Kroft talks about Movies you sound like Gloomy House. . have u
You done work with him?
Good video. subscribed.
why did they turn such an incredible story into that crap movie
they don't want to share their ancient beliefs with us,,,
that's why
Thanks this makes more sense
Love the channel thanks for the videos
I love me alien universe but this guy is killing me with the way he is talking..
change the speed to 1.25 for better viewing pleasure, it doesn´t even sound sped up when you do...
Yao the Panda lmao i did the same thing after like 15 seconds into the video 😂😂
Thank you for that
If only they didn't cut those lines from the movie and didn't left so many stupid actions
(like scientists who took of helmets of their heads in alien world or touched alien form of life). This movie could be in top of all time sci-fi movies, but they ruined it.
Mario Power ...had potential to be the best.that original story n engineers etc.pssss...coulda been just amazing
You really think it could beat Star Wars 4, 5, 6?
alexslykid ....wait im new to the star wars franchise.which is 4? 5? 6?
The Voodoo Child Cubop Güaño Original movies > 4 A New Hope, 5 The Empire Strikes Back, 6 Return Of The Jedi.
Then you have the prequels > 1 The Phantom Menace, 2 Attack Of The Clones, 3 Revenge Of The Sith.
Then Inter-Standalone-Sequel(s)/Prequel(s) > Rogue One, Han Solo(coming out this year), & presumably Obi-Wan Movie in 2020.
Future series > 7 The Force Awakens, 8 The Last Jedi, 9 (Title yet to be out in 2019).
The Voodoo Child Cubop Güaño Also it’s not that important but there are shows series in based in between some of the movies
This movie was almost awesome. I wish they really would have jumped into the lore more because its was so fascinating. Maybe on the next film..
that was fascinating. good stuff man.
What about the deleted scene showing the engineer leaving the crashed juggernaut?
Taking a script like this and making it so abstract that instead of conversations about subtle things left out on purpose, and where could the next film could go, you just get people arguing about the reasons things came about, trying to assume what the hell happened and trying to find the logic in major plot holes is not the mark of good production or direction. As much as i love the alien universe, Ridley really messed it up, and nobody can blame the script writer. Thanks for the upload! Good work.
Blame the Censorship Squad!
Agree
That was really interesting and answers a lot of questions, i also think that the draft is real because as you say it makes to much sense. I would love to see more about the engineers and what or who was before the engineers
I'm desperately waiting for the second part !!!
David: How about some music, Mother?
Voice of 'Mother' : Selection?
David: Richard Wagner - Das Rheingold Act II: The Entry of the Gods into Valhalla.
iSm1lez then that scene is played out in covenant as well, when David wakes to meet young guy Pearce. He plays it on the piano
@@mercilessforever Yup and at the end of Covenant to.
David: How about some music, Mother? Mother: Selection? David: Pantera; I'm Broken
doacarnage jajajaja nice one
Great job. This does tie things up nicely.
I quite enjoyed this film and wish we would have gotten Ridley’s true version of Covenant which better built in the foundation set in Prometheus.
The irony of fate, perceived at 11:25, is chilling!
Great video, definitely explains alot 👍👍
Engineers equivalent of fallen angels the story line is almost identical
i found this too as real inspiration: check out The Origin of Evil Spirits: The Reception of Genesis 6:1-4 in Early Jewish Literature - "The Rebellion Motifin the Book of Watchers". in short, giants asked God for eternal/prolong their life, he said no and they were punished that after their dead out of their corpses arised evil spirits. similar theme to aliens from corpses of engineers.