The Engineers (CELESTIAL CREATORS) Prometheus + Alien Covenant Explored

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  • @noaht5016
    @noaht5016 Před 4 lety +6475

    They look like handsome squidward

  • @rudyg323
    @rudyg323 Před 4 lety +2127

    I’m obsessed with learning more about the engineers.

  • @SamsonBiggz
    @SamsonBiggz Před 3 lety +1652

    After reading the original script it turns out that the engineers took Jesus as a boy to their home planet and taught him their ways then brought him back. Then he was crucified and that pissed the engineers off so they decided that humans should be exterminated. The original script is so much better then the movie that came out.

    • @irshadtyo
      @irshadtyo Před 3 lety +152

      I need to read the original script. I wish we got the script instead of the movie, so much wasted potential

    • @thesorrow4664
      @thesorrow4664 Před 3 lety +17

      Word?

    • @aaaaaaaaaaawyaa
      @aaaaaaaaaaawyaa Před 3 lety +29

      Is it possible to get that script online anywhere?

    • @yolover111
      @yolover111 Před 3 lety +167

      Yea but corrupt Hollywood don't want us believing in Jesus or religion. So they had to "dumb" it down sadly.
      I wish they did add that scene, would have made it even better.

    • @AksamRafiz
      @AksamRafiz Před 3 lety +154

      As much as I would have liked the script I can totally see why they didn't go with it. Having Jesus in it alone would upset alot of people.

  • @King89Kenny
    @King89Kenny Před 4 lety +1140

    Ridley actually said in an interview that humans were on their last chance 2000yrs ago to change their ways. The engineers sent them a teacher who they then crucified. That's why a wipe-out ship was getting ready to launch for earth 2000yrs ago according to the nav computer.

    • @aa-to6ws
      @aa-to6ws Před 3 lety +554

      Bruh we killed space Jesus.

    • @MyWeedIsVeryGood
      @MyWeedIsVeryGood Před 3 lety +45

      @@aa-to6ws yeah humans eh?

    • @migueldc6845
      @migueldc6845 Před 3 lety +4

      🤢

    • @metalmulishagaming2016
      @metalmulishagaming2016 Před 3 lety +19

      @A M He HAD to die. He wept so bad in the garden, that he cried literal blood.... From the EXTREME stress that he knew He was going to be going thru. Remember, He was beaten so bad, they say He wasn't recognizable as a man anymore. He did that for us man.... And the pimps too. 💯

    • @munchiemac2895
      @munchiemac2895 Před 3 lety +30

      @Budget Boost DIY jesus was crucified at 33 years old a.d started when he was born so it's be closer to 2053

  • @rstelford3532
    @rstelford3532 Před 4 lety +4941

    It's funny how I'm more interested in the lore of these films than the films themselves. Bags of potential wasted in both.

    • @davidcripps3011
      @davidcripps3011 Před 4 lety +141

      Exactly how I feel

    • @thealien8673
      @thealien8673 Před 4 lety +417

      We want more engineers but they give us alien shit.

    • @armandolopez-tn4fp
      @armandolopez-tn4fp Před 4 lety +181

      Agree, should be because final production decisions are based on box office success, that said Prometheus is much better than covenant, Prometheus leaves plenty of question to be answered while covenant kills that line of the story for a return to the original alien formula for those who pay tickets and want more gore and xenomorphs on screen

    • @dirtforce0897
      @dirtforce0897 Před 4 lety +66

      @@thealien8673 lmao. no shit. Typical american movies...blood and guts and explosions.

    • @Justin-zl6dm
      @Justin-zl6dm Před 4 lety +11

      That’s how I feel with most movies.

  • @holydiver6511
    @holydiver6511 Před 4 lety +1976

    The engineers, 10 foot tall super intelligent race with advanced tech. Gets killed by squid ink

    • @gomaniz
      @gomaniz Před 4 lety +439

      We're somewhat intelligent too. But the right mosquito can kill you.

    • @mtnd02.06
      @mtnd02.06 Před 4 lety +203

      @@gomaniz
      Or even a cold wind...

    • @atpstorages6917
      @atpstorages6917 Před 4 lety +46

      MtnD0 2.0 depends how cold and time, I mean you can survive absolute zero for zero seconds.

    • @PeterBerisha
      @PeterBerisha Před 4 lety +8

      Stan the food man ever wondered how that ink tasted or the lasting effects it has on someone?

    • @ghostface4250
      @ghostface4250 Před 4 lety +9

      I mean the squid ink and his death is the basis for life on Earth

  • @ManOfSteel1
    @ManOfSteel1 Před 4 lety +545

    If i was having a nice nap and some creature wakes me up asking how to live forever then I'll do the same as that engineer did to david!

    • @liquidtunes
      @liquidtunes Před 3 lety +17

      NightCrawller 😂 responses like this one are why the comments section is so alluring.

    • @kingsG5
      @kingsG5 Před 3 lety +5

      Lol

    • @Sevan_UP
      @Sevan_UP Před 3 lety +1

      Well at least it's a understandable reason to wake him up. For immortality

    • @MachinaGirlRobots
      @MachinaGirlRobots Před 3 lety +2

      Lol I was thinking that. Wake up a Alien then shoot his ass...

    • @keenandreher5479
      @keenandreher5479 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Sevan_UP nope it'd sound nice at first. but if humanity acquired immortality, we'd destroy Earth, each other & other species at an even faster pace. Plus look at who asked him that... weyland the literal decaying embodiment of greed and pride, Too ignorant to accept that death comes for all, him included

  • @celestialspartan1176
    @celestialspartan1176 Před 4 lety +556

    The Engineers appear to have a caste system similar to the Forerunners from Halo. Each member of the species is born into a caste, warrior, scientist, builder, etc. They have no wiggle room when it comes to their professions. Once you’re born into one of these castes, there’s no leaving it. When you’re born a warrior, you’ll die a warrior.

    • @angcil88
      @angcil88 Před 3 lety +63

      And then there's gonna be this one person who were born as a warrior but wanted to be a scientist, question their culture & rebel for what he/she believes which then inspired the whole race 😂

    • @dermachtige6123
      @dermachtige6123 Před 3 lety +26

      @@angcil88 😂 one who will fight for choosing freelancing over being warrior or some shit job.

    • @imapleb4956
      @imapleb4956 Před 3 lety +5

      Or the dwarves from dragon age 😌

    • @phatle2737
      @phatle2737 Před 3 lety +3

      brave new world/ hinduism

    • @tiagosobral7139
      @tiagosobral7139 Před 3 lety +9

      Halo also has the flood (which could be like xenomorphs), and structures to wipe them out in case of emergency.
      I've played Halo for years and it's fascinating how much Alien and Halo share with one another, even in sound and architecture, it's absolutely amazing how much of Alien is in Halo.

  • @ujimasahojo7144
    @ujimasahojo7144 Před 4 lety +533

    In a deleted scene, the engineer that pursued Shaw seemed amazed at some of the stuff in the crashed ship which implied high culture, books and a hologram of a child playing. Kinda sad because it implies that the Engineer sort of realizes that they may have jumped the gun with regards to the humans.

    • @blue-eclipse9365
      @blue-eclipse9365 Před rokem +72

      How Variant Species See Humans:
      The Engineers: Disappointments
      The Predators: Fair Game
      The Xenomorphs: Dinner Date

    • @kungfumaster51
      @kungfumaster51 Před rokem +36

      @@blue-eclipse9365 At least the Yautja hold some semblance of respect towards humans.

    • @blue-eclipse9365
      @blue-eclipse9365 Před rokem +12

      @@kungfumaster51 mostly Dutch but yes

    • @idiot_city5244
      @idiot_city5244 Před rokem +23

      @@blue-eclipse9365 Don't forget Harrigan, given a gift by one of the most badass preds created

    • @blue-eclipse9365
      @blue-eclipse9365 Před rokem +8

      @@idiot_city5244 Dutch my guy though

  • @gojiramusprimus9088
    @gojiramusprimus9088 Před 4 lety +1424

    I always thought that David made his version of the xenomorphs and the real xenomorphs are created by the engineers

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 4 lety +165

      It makes more sense that the black goo/xenomorphs/everything in between is something the engineers naturally discovered and tried to control or manipulate. They can't control it either. Look at humans and nuclear weapons. If they were going off randomly during the development process, we'd probably stop developing them.

    • @alansolis6964
      @alansolis6964 Před 4 lety +35

      Guys, I just woke up and this is so thought provoking and fascinating

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 4 lety +102

      @@luvgzus4ever The whole idea that the goo is a evolutionary accelerator sounds stupid to anyone who understands natural selection. It behaves more like a retrovirus that injects foreign genes into the victims' DNA. My guess is that they use the black goo to inject the DNA of an extremely aggressive creature or multiple creatures they discovered.
      If they mastered genetics so well that they could create xenomorphs from scratch shouldn't they have used that tech to make themselves invincible (at least immune to xenomorphs impregnation)?

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 4 lety +69

      I think the best evidence that xenomorphs aren't entirely an Engineer construct is the fact that they seem to have a religious significance to the Engineers.
      Humans don't worship androids. The androids are just idols of something they do worship: themselves and the god/gods that made them in their image.
      The xenomorph is just them trying to recreate something they encountered. The perfect organism isn't the classic xenomorph that we all know. It's the parasite that can become its host and survive anywhere.

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere Před 4 lety +64

      To futher expound on the matter, the basic Engineer religion is the worship and spread of life throughout the universe. We've seen two types of Engineers. The highly advanced ones working on the black goo and the more agrarian ones that David wiped out.
      It looks like two sides of the same religion to me. One group might've been horrified by the destructive nature of xenomorph-like creatures and the other might have been an apocalyptic cult that worshiped them as the ultimate life form. One side sees death and the other side sees perfected life.
      We have the same divisions here on Earth. There's a whole lot of people who can't wait for the apocalypse.

  • @marsbalaba9373
    @marsbalaba9373 Před 2 lety +86

    I love Prometheus.
    They say it was boring
    But for me the psychological dragging is very effective and keeps me interested

  • @zelizux
    @zelizux Před 3 lety +372

    Bro idk about you, I KNOW this is fiction, but how this man is explaining it makes it feel real af.

    • @wubwub12345
      @wubwub12345 Před 3 lety +39

      You'd be surprised how similar things are in real life

    • @beezmanit2683
      @beezmanit2683 Před 3 lety

      @Swole Beast frick

    • @jtg1972
      @jtg1972 Před 3 lety +3

      @Swole Beast why would it be terrifying? Just look at the shit on this planet alone. You should be used to it by now!🤣

    • @milosjovic4402
      @milosjovic4402 Před 3 lety +4

      Why u so sure there isn't a superior species that created humans?

    • @jtg1972
      @jtg1972 Před 3 lety +3

      @@milosjovic4402 because there's this thing called "evolution". We know that humans evolved from another species, so we know we weren't created by some magic man in the sky.

  • @goldstarchoice
    @goldstarchoice Před 4 lety +2514

    Prometheus set the story up so perfect, then we got Alien: Covenant.

  • @JaesNSC
    @JaesNSC Před 4 lety +354

    Engineers ære probably the most interresting part of the alien universe imo. Glad you did a video on this as your content is top notch!

  • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
    @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 Před 4 lety +125

    *"Hey look buddy I'm an engineer that means i solve problems"*

  • @garystewart6093
    @garystewart6093 Před 2 lety +97

    The engineer that killed weyland was disgusted at him begging for more life and silencing the scientist shaw who was asking the right questions but was silenced with a muzzle to her c section. The engineers face was so understanding of shaws questions, that I’m convinced he understood her.

    • @davebear9825
      @davebear9825 Před 9 měsíci +12

      Yes he seemed both interested in Dr Shaw and had a sense of Pity for David, but he looked at Weyland actions and he indeed knew that Mankind was still a Rotten Apple

    • @maambe_divya
      @maambe_divya Před 9 měsíci +7

      I too think like he got pissed that Shaw was silenced brutally by greedy men contending to be as superior as engineers.

  • @An_Imperial_Guard.
    @An_Imperial_Guard. Před 4 lety +1161

    In the comics is implied that Jesus Christ was a genetical modified engineer send to earth to guide them, but we all know how well it went, they became piss off after that and ended up deeming mankind as violent and dangerous, henceforth why they are trying to destroy earth with all those bio-weapons.
    They succeed eventually with xenomorphs reaching earth, but still got fucked over in the end.

    • @ondrejuz
      @ondrejuz Před 4 lety +126

      Yes, I've also believed this was the cause of the engineers turning against humanity, well its what was implied aka a failed experiment.

    • @masterninja255
      @masterninja255 Před 4 lety +20

      You beat me to it

    • @DJSCRMNGHST
      @DJSCRMNGHST Před 4 lety +42

      Welp......guess we fucked up on our creators😅😂

    • @maekodaekal7744
      @maekodaekal7744 Před 4 lety +77

      I remember reading somewhere that this was the original idea behind the Engineers hatred of humans, but the production company or a bunch of big whigs did not receive the idea very well. I hope they make this canon.

    • @mastatheif9909
      @mastatheif9909 Před 4 lety +8

      How did they get fucked over?

  • @Hevvvyyy
    @Hevvvyyy Před 4 lety +539

    So they're basically cosmic chads ??

  • @CygK23
    @CygK23 Před 3 lety +71

    I much preferred the set up in the original Alien movies before the retcon. I loved the idea that humanity was taking it's first steps into space and finding something like a desolated galaxy, the sides involved dead by the weapons they resorted to, Great Filter-style. I liked the xenomorph as being like a metaphor for landmines on a cosmic/lovecraftian scale, as human's explored who knew what we might trigger in the dark corners of a post-apocalypic galaxy. So much potential in that idea now gone...

  • @timenavigator9643
    @timenavigator9643 Před 4 lety +44

    The Engineers are fascinating & I wanna see a movie about them in detail.

  • @lordodysseus
    @lordodysseus Před 4 lety +344

    Prometheus was one of my favourite movies when I younger. No joke, I saw it 19 times in theatres. I loved it so much.

    • @KittySYT
      @KittySYT Před 4 lety +11

      Yes, younger mind takes longer to grasp. You should have watched it at the age of 18. You could have saved your time. 🌚

    • @jaysonisgreat
      @jaysonisgreat Před 4 lety +5

      Younger? If I recall correctly I was old enough to legally drink when it came out and I'm only 28

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 Před 4 lety +1

      @Alexander Steiner it was dreadful

    • @MrEpicPwnage1
      @MrEpicPwnage1 Před 4 lety +26

      @@KittySYT stfu lol
      @ odyssesus; yeah me too this was a favourite of myne. It was just something about the engineers and the explorational tone of prometheus, something about discovering new things and traveling to a planet light years away using a map from millenia ago, it's just so mysterious and beautiful
      Shame that ridley listening to the fans resulted in covenant :/

    • @Princess2Warrior
      @Princess2Warrior Před 4 lety +16

      @@johncooper7663 *You're one of the morons who are the reason we got **_Alien: Covenant_** instead of **_Paradise Lost._*

  • @jameshoops10
    @jameshoops10 Před 4 lety +66

    ridley scott adding this storyline to the alien franchise is probably the greatest thing ever

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior Před 3 lety +14

      You mean the one who ruin the myth of the xenomoprh by being the creation of a man made android ?
      No that was really stupid.

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 Před 2 lety

      Agreed

    • @whitleybayman123
      @whitleybayman123 Před rokem +1

      @@MrSafior Sorry you dont understand it all mate

    • @wolfkanji
      @wolfkanji Před rokem

      @@whitleybayman123 Bro what 💀

  • @howdepressing2495
    @howdepressing2495 Před 3 lety +272

    This is one of the most legitimately possible and believable movie involving extraterrestrial life. Not some alien instantly speaking English.

    • @mevinr72
      @mevinr72 Před 3 lety +19

      They do the instant English thing because it’s easier from a narrative perspective and easier for audiences to digest

    • @howdepressing2495
      @howdepressing2495 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mevinr72 Yeah I guess so, but like they dont do any transitioning or making it as if theres thought process involved when speaking a foreign language form an aliens perspective

    • @tomoliver2112
      @tomoliver2112 Před 3 lety +18

      Watch Arrival.

    • @howdepressing2495
      @howdepressing2495 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tomoliver2112 will do

    • @AgariBeast
      @AgariBeast Před 3 lety +1

      @@howdepressing2495 well?

  • @andrewmaclean9810
    @andrewmaclean9810 Před 3 lety +115

    Idk why people hate on Prometheus, I absolutely loved this movie and the amount of depth and backstory it brought to the universe. And the cinematography is breathtaking. I didn't enjoy Alien Covenant neeearly as much but I still appreciated the lore aspects of it even though the story was eh.

    • @patrickflying17
      @patrickflying17 Před 2 lety

      Because depth and backstory mean's dick all if the characters and story suck. Lore accents a good story, it doesn't carry it.

    • @hstrangemusic
      @hstrangemusic Před 2 lety +2

      Agree completely

    • @deonnelson9780
      @deonnelson9780 Před rokem +2

      The Engineers are boring and uninteresting.

    • @EugenioHertz
      @EugenioHertz Před rokem

      to me it was a big mistery to know where xenomorphs came from. now i know they used the "bad humanity" excuse, and the xenomorphs are basically what they are because of humans, and thats a total bullshit.
      to say that an entire race is going to wipe out another one that they were responsable for creating, just because they behave bad, it´s cheap and stupid. the "humans meeting its creators" was good, but the entire outcome and the way it happened, PITY

    • @calebray4168
      @calebray4168 Před rokem +2

      Prometheus is amazing, AC is disappointing.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 4 lety +225

    10:25, I was a little disappointed that David created the Xenomorphs, but he wasn't the only one.

    • @thenewyoutuber4798
      @thenewyoutuber4798 Před 4 lety +38

      I still think David is recreating the Xenomorph.

    • @kysike666
      @kysike666 Před 4 lety +11

      Ya that stupid plot a robot went rogue might as well call him terminator

    • @MrApplemat
      @MrApplemat Před 4 lety +9

      Same here thought the entire storyline was silly

    • @pastordonkoh7692
      @pastordonkoh7692 Před 4 lety +51

      I would have preferred if Xenomorphs were just a timeless race of creatures that even the engineers didn't fully understand in origin tbh

    • @danielstockwell2424
      @danielstockwell2424 Před 4 lety +20

      @@pastordonkoh7692 I've always believed that the aliens are that. Alien. They shouldnt be fully explained.

  • @erichudson3608
    @erichudson3608 Před 4 lety +156

    the Alien Covenant Fucked everything up. I wanted to see the Engineers. Them wasn't even the same race of people as the ones on Prometheus.

  • @donovanvichi7102
    @donovanvichi7102 Před 3 lety +19

    Lol, the engineers are like that 1 friend who hasn't played the game in ages, and comes back to carry you when somebody else challenged you to a 2v2.

  • @firewarrior5828
    @firewarrior5828 Před 3 lety +83

    Moral of the story bassicly is "Don't play god and not expect him to play back."

    • @brainwashed9380
      @brainwashed9380 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah but god doesn’t exist in the alien universe cuz the engineers created humans so they are the only gods so ur quote makes no sense

    • @account4345
      @account4345 Před 3 lety +7

      @@brainwashed9380 That’s exactly his point. Don’t get so high on your own hubris that you think you can demand immortality from your own god. (The engineers in this case).

    • @brainwashed9380
      @brainwashed9380 Před 3 lety +3

      @@account4345 I got the point he was making I’m just saying dat “Don’t play god and not expect him to play back” sounds like a Christian saying but in this case there’s more than one god since the engineers are a god like species so they are gods and can be out smarted by humans.
      It’s probably highly unlikely for us to out smart them but in a rare occasion we could and they make mistakes just like us

    • @imapleb4956
      @imapleb4956 Před 3 lety +1

      @@brainwashed9380 You’re arguing semantics over the phrasing of a colloquialism

    • @mohann2289
      @mohann2289 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@brainwashed9380lol gods means anything and he is everywhere

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před 4 lety +384

    Can you cover The Celestials from Marvel comics?

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  Před 4 lety +55

      Absolutely! I'll add that to the list now, thanks mate :)

    • @509hunter9
      @509hunter9 Před 4 lety +5

      @@filmcomicsexplained engineer vs ultimate predator

    • @wackermaker6299
      @wackermaker6299 Před 4 lety +6

      @@filmcomicsexplained New Gods too!

    • @Thaumiel_5
      @Thaumiel_5 Před 4 lety

      Fancy meeting you here... Again... 😂

    • @chanbricks4461
      @chanbricks4461 Před 4 lety

      I see you from scishow, spellbooked and other channels , why are you everywhere? What is your purpose?

  • @uddaside
    @uddaside Před 4 lety +30

    After a belly full of chest busters, Xenomorphs and androids, the Engineers have been the best thing to reboot the franchise giving the whole story purpose. I find them far more sinister, scary and interesting than any chest buster. It's just sad Ridley gave into pressure and instead of making Promethues 2 and leaving Shaw alive. He created Alien Convenant making David the centre piece. I want answers to Shaws questions and Engineers to be explored in depth, not more of what we've already had over and over.

    • @davebear9825
      @davebear9825 Před 9 měsíci

      I agree we all expected that Dr Shaw would get us our Answers. But looking at David and Weyland and their Relationship and reason for Davids Creation and also why David wanted to Create is likely the same as why the Engineers created us.. which likely was because they could/test how Great they are. And/or to serve some Function

  • @Martin-hh3ju
    @Martin-hh3ju Před 4 lety +53

    If David created the Xenomorph's in Covenant how come there was a mural on the ceiling in Prometheus of a Xenomorph, I could never work that one out

    • @Everydayartist12
      @Everydayartist12 Před 4 lety +4

      He didnt create it he hust followed the blueprints as said in the movie. Engineers made them

  • @savagereason9153
    @savagereason9153 Před 2 lety +28

    The first of the movies gave you more of a sense of “awe” and “curiosity” toward this potential human origins story. The second didn’t have that for me. It was more of a look into the bio weaponry David harnessed and him becoming a “god”. “In order to create, one must first destroy”

  • @jamesalvarado3961
    @jamesalvarado3961 Před 4 lety +417

    These guys look like whatever race jiren from dragon Ball super was.

    • @RogueAndroid
      @RogueAndroid Před 4 lety +45

      @@toastpuppy3491 Stfu, shiteater.
      And yes, Frieza also had a Xenomorph like form. Toriyama likes the Alien movie franchise ever since seeing the first movie.

    • @Utrekz
      @Utrekz Před 4 lety +13

      @@toastpuppy3491 No you get outta here you boring plank

    • @toastpuppy3491
      @toastpuppy3491 Před 4 lety +1

      Utrekz I didn’t know that not watching bad cartoons for children made me uninteresting.

    • @nickmarkins6746
      @nickmarkins6746 Před 4 lety +2

      I've never noticed that till you just pointed it out now I can't understand see it

    • @jorgesissoco2226
      @jorgesissoco2226 Před 4 lety +2

      Jiren the Engineer

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 4 lety +68

    7:05, that's right. We never got a chance to look at the culture of the Engineer homeworld.

    • @Lord-Darkness
      @Lord-Darkness Před 4 lety +1

      Wee kinda did in the blue ray speciel edition i have it and ive see a few sights in this city :)

  • @alexisjavier84
    @alexisjavier84 Před 3 lety +21

    We need a movie dedicated to the engineers, they look soo cool.

  • @TopNoTchVSOP
    @TopNoTchVSOP Před 2 lety +9

    There was a scene in one of the original Alien films with a gigantic deceased Space Jockey in the pilot seat, with a huge hole cavity in his chest,that insinuates that he had gotten contaminated when either landing on a desolate planet and a distress message was sent out to the other neighboring space voyagers and Engineers,that is where that part of the prequel picks up at with Space Marines taking the SOS distress message from dead Space Jockey.

  • @dcicristi
    @dcicristi Před 4 lety +114

    The humans were created by a faction without the approval of the council

    • @danial5870
      @danial5870 Před 4 lety +1

      That would make sense but where’d you read this?

    • @brianjensen5661
      @brianjensen5661 Před 4 lety

      He made it up

    • @xyz7975
      @xyz7975 Před 4 lety +14

      DarkestEye there’s been lore throughout the AVP and colonial marines video game franchises that shows a potential civil war between engineers... those that wanted to make weapons and those that wanted to end the practice of species creation.
      The lore is that all this is really about a war between two engineer factions..

    • @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e
      @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e Před 3 lety

      @@xyz7975 I actually really love that.

    • @ivangudelj3928
      @ivangudelj3928 Před 3 lety +1

      @@xyz7975 that goes well with the idea of fallen angels fighting over humanity because they loved theie children

  • @Mr.imjussayn
    @Mr.imjussayn Před 4 lety +171

    ... I didn't think David created the Xenomorphs? I thought he simply followed the blue print and created a "type" or "varient" of Xenomorph? 🤔

    • @monday7352
      @monday7352 Před 4 lety +17

      Techno-Virus 757 This would probably be the healthiest plot for the story

    • @monkeymonk666
      @monkeymonk666 Před 4 lety +31

      Of course he didn't create the Xenomorphs. It was plainly said about the Alien film that the original idea was for the Xenos to have a complete, high functioning civilization, with the Queens and the male drones having elaborate mating rituals (involving a third party in some way) in huge temple-like structures. They were supposed to be this huge thing but R.S. was convinced to dumb it down because he was told that the average film-going audience was too stupid to understand/care about the super in-depth backstory they had.
      So yeah, "David" didn't create dick. He just killed loads of people because he was a psychotic robot that got out of control.

    • @msamberk
      @msamberk Před 4 lety +29

      David may have figured out how to bio engineer his own xenomorph but the Engineer already did that ages ago..it's apparent when Shaw and them discover the ship. Their are massive murals of a queen xenomorph and other form of "the alien" as we know carved all over the walls. So David is just rediscovering something that knew bout ages ago

    • @jamalcolmpayne7938
      @jamalcolmpayne7938 Před 4 lety

      @@monkeymonk666 He definitely wasn't told wrong lol.

    • @peoplez129
      @peoplez129 Před 4 lety +1

      @@monkeymonk666 Not to mention that we see a form of the mechanical xenomorphs on the engineers temple walls.

  • @dudedude64
    @dudedude64 Před 4 lety +19

    I swear in David’s workshop, you can see a drawing of a head crab from half-life

  • @katienovota8870
    @katienovota8870 Před 4 lety +3

    Kind of makes me think of the Annunaki.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 4 lety +38

    8:00, David: Big things have small beginnings.

  • @sonny5387
    @sonny5387 Před 4 lety +60

    Man your narrating never let's us down! Glad I tuned in for this upload.

  • @DzR1591
    @DzR1591 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Just think of the Engineers as The Annunaki from the summerian ages and the movie becomes immediately interesting and makes sense

  • @anteeantee8144
    @anteeantee8144 Před 3 lety +21

    maybe in engineer society only engineers are allowed to create life
    and thats why the engineer is looking in disgust at david
    the life humans created

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 Před 4 lety +76

    I love this upload too; The Engineers presented epicly, like a true superior being looks pathetically towards through the humanity, and with an absolute disgust to AI

  • @paulhenderson1066
    @paulhenderson1066 Před 4 lety +64

    This video really made me appreciate Prometheus and Covenant for what they do for the series.

    • @MatthewLowery
      @MatthewLowery Před rokem

      I still think they’re very good movies, especially Covenant which to me was a really great watch. Both are pretty fascinating for how they explain the original Alien films too

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop Před 4 lety +23

    Imagine having to team up with a predator, fighting Aliens and Engineers. A brotherhood forged in galactic blood 🤝

  • @madrain9898
    @madrain9898 Před 3 lety +47

    Then what about predators, who created them? Are they just a random advanced space civilization?

    • @quinnholloway5400
      @quinnholloway5400 Před 3 lety +11

      Prehaps
      Or prehaps they are older race
      Who knows
      What is known is that the engineers can kick their asses pretty easily

    • @TheGrimoiresVoice
      @TheGrimoiresVoice Před 3 lety +8

      Well, it's a long story. The Yautja were originally known as the Hish, but were augmented by the Amengi race of alien insectoids and after their creations overpowered them, the Yautja took over their technology.

    • @milosjovic4402
      @milosjovic4402 Před 3 lety

      Who cares about the predators. They look absolutely horrible and are irrelevant

    • @cocogoatarchon2895
      @cocogoatarchon2895 Před 3 lety +14

      @@milosjovic4402 Could say the same about you

    • @Tony-112
      @Tony-112 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cocogoatarchon2895 💀💀🤣🤣🤣

  • @maskimgalgo2046
    @maskimgalgo2046 Před 4 lety +76

    0:24
    David: ur mom gay
    engineer: ( triggered)

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 4 lety +182

    12:00, the third film probably wont be released till 2022-2023.

    • @mobilejad6129
      @mobilejad6129 Před 4 lety +46

      Also it won't be so much about what Ridley Scott wants to do with it, but what Disney allows him to do with it. Which I guess is okay, just so long as The Queen gets to be inducted into the Disney Princess franchise.

    • @kysike666
      @kysike666 Před 4 lety +17

      They should stop milking and ruining the story line.

    • @mobilejad6129
      @mobilejad6129 Před 4 lety +23

      I'd give anything for a movie with everything that made the 1986 Aliens film great in a modern movie.

    • @Dang00TheAlienIAmTheRealOne
      @Dang00TheAlienIAmTheRealOne Před 4 lety +18

      @@mobilejad6129 and the queen turns out to be a black transgender women named Laqueesia who don't nerd no man lol

    • @D_Vice88
      @D_Vice88 Před 4 lety +1

      they should jsut stop thewse movies sucked and they just dropped the engineers being humanities origin they just didnt even bother showing more and made it all about cooky maternal god complex david..
      Ridley Scott used Aliens as a tool for more spooky AI android horror no one really wanted

  • @skvetements
    @skvetements Před 3 lety +43

    engineers were 9 to 10 feet? they were playing with the wrong rockets

    • @imapleb4956
      @imapleb4956 Před 3 lety +1

      The actor who played the Engineer was a basketball player Im pretty sure

  • @Non-dual-mind1
    @Non-dual-mind1 Před rokem +5

    In one of the films, Prometheus (I think), I remember the engineers sent someone to earth about 2000 years ago to teach them about peace and stop the violence...but humans killed him. After that they decided to wipe out their creation. I actually thought that was a good plot device which is why I remembered it.

  • @Meto-uk3gh
    @Meto-uk3gh Před 4 lety +29

    What if that engineer that we think sacrifice him self for the creation of the human race, was actually sentenced to death and he created us by accident.

  • @jackkraken3888
    @jackkraken3888 Před 4 lety +19

    You actually make the prequels fun. Thanks for that.

  • @SCALES1992
    @SCALES1992 Před 4 lety +34

    Also relating to a comic book, the Engineers are several times stronger than Predators.

  • @bugswako
    @bugswako Před rokem

    Fantastic video and explanation! Really enjoyed the theories tying in Alien, Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

  • @nwnw9247
    @nwnw9247 Před 4 lety +13

    I swear you only started doing these videos because your voice is so nice to listen to

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 Před 4 lety +17

    3:30, that was a pretty cool opening sequence.

  • @chandrakant1479
    @chandrakant1479 Před 3 lety +26

    Ridley said that engineers get disappointed because we killed jesus

    • @a.n_9364
      @a.n_9364 Před 3 lety +1

      So dumb that for so many reasons, glad it was cut

    • @Georgefloydsneckk
      @Georgefloydsneckk Před 3 lety +1

      @@a.n_9364 how is it dumb?

    • @dermachtige6123
      @dermachtige6123 Před 3 lety

      @@Georgefloydsneckk cause even if we killed jesus , we are living better life now . Atleast better than 2000 years ago . All of us have better nutrition better healthcare bigger immunity and we all are growing big and tall . So killing jesus would piss off engineers is a stupid assumption .

    • @Thomas-gs3gv
      @Thomas-gs3gv Před 3 lety +4

      @@dermachtige6123 that’s seriously missing the point. It’s not measured by income or production it’s based on cultural aspects of the species as a whole

    • @dermachtige6123
      @dermachtige6123 Před 3 lety

      @@Thomas-gs3gv yeah , i mean if they had to, they would have done it anyway . We are living Better life but what's better according to them is still unknown so , cant say more.

  • @jessiebarco9447
    @jessiebarco9447 Před 4 lety

    I just wanna say thank you for these videos I love the avp universe and have learned so much from them keep up the good work

  • @senseweaver01
    @senseweaver01 Před 4 lety +15

    I feel like some of the horror of Alien was not knowing anything about where the Xenomorphs or Face-Huggers had come from. The more Alien (or Alien related) movies we get, the further away from horror it becomes. Kinda makes me worried for the future of the franchise.

  • @culturewarrior2012
    @culturewarrior2012 Před 4 lety +5

    the engineers held the xenomorph in high esteem because they used its blood to save their species, and thats why their pressure suits look like the xenomorph. but they ran out of its actuall blood a loooong time ago and theyve been simulating it with a techno-organic substitute. the big engineer head in prometheus was a tribute to the first engineer to have been facehugged. this is all stuff you can find out from the original script.

  • @DallasTechie
    @DallasTechie Před 4 lety +4

    We want more Engineers. The Prometheus story and start was great.

  • @valpeysgaming13110
    @valpeysgaming13110 Před 4 lety +6

    I have come to believe there are 6 types of engineers. Each shaped by their cast Elder. The black goo in the vials is hostile as when properly armed the canisters explode open, causing the goo to become agitated/hostile. At some point one or more of the factions had a disagreement on how to deal with the human population and they were sabotaged

    • @michaelking9818
      @michaelking9818 Před 9 měsíci

      I hope after all this time your a bit smarter

  • @thearmchairjournalist566
    @thearmchairjournalist566 Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent video Niyat, yet again you crushed it!

  • @brokenhashtags8964
    @brokenhashtags8964 Před 4 lety +3

    THIS is AWESOME. I'm so obsessed with the engineers and the alien lore.
    I love your videos man :) 👍

  • @adamotuama8710
    @adamotuama8710 Před rokem +1

    Glossed over the fact the ship on lv426 was there a long time before David created his xenomorph

  • @standardyeepz
    @standardyeepz Před rokem

    This is my all time favorite night time channel. This dude helped me realize it’s ok to like hokey movies. Not to mention he’s got a relaxing voice.

  • @sonofmeagherofthesword1903
    @sonofmeagherofthesword1903 Před 4 lety +13

    11:16 dude the Engineers are fu#$ing jacked!!! Look at those muscles!

  • @garywilson3042
    @garywilson3042 Před 4 lety +11

    I love the backstory of the engineers, it is fascinating and leads to us asking our own existential questions,

  • @rasmuslarsen7842
    @rasmuslarsen7842 Před 11 měsíci

    duuuuude, you got the perfect voice for storytelling :DDD!!!

  • @GamingRoomOficial
    @GamingRoomOficial Před 4 lety

    another great video

  • @themisteroctopus1033
    @themisteroctopus1033 Před 4 lety +26

    I have my phases of things that I'm super into from time to time. Sometimes it will be Greek Spartans, sometimes it will be samurais, etc. Thanks to you, that phase is now aliens.... On a side note, you think you'll cover some things in the Stargate TV series?? Things like the Ancients and Asguards??

  • @darealberrygarcia
    @darealberrygarcia Před 4 lety +18

    I love the topic of everything Alien and can't wait to see the final installment to the greatest film franchise ever created!

  • @temeadler
    @temeadler Před 3 lety

    this is brilliant, thank you!

  • @oliverbruce8921
    @oliverbruce8921 Před 4 lety

    I love your videos bro, so interesting

  • @RayofVibez
    @RayofVibez Před 4 lety +5

    This video was well worth the wait.
    Man I really enjoy the mythology behind the Engineers.

  • @sean2hendley
    @sean2hendley Před 4 lety +6

    Amazing Video Niat! Keep up th great work!

  • @gothelvis3541
    @gothelvis3541 Před 4 lety +7

    Man I can't stress enough how fucking good Prometheus is, never have I ever had such a will to know the lore of a film like this. The exploration and pacing was excellent, the discovery just so satisfying, and the mysteries behind it all perfect. The film is also creepy as fuck, and so is the set design

  • @davyheijlands1956
    @davyheijlands1956 Před 3 lety

    Nice video. I wish we got a more fleshed out story. The Engineer backstory is so rich and vast. One little remark tough. It wasn't Rilpey's crew but Dallas' crew. 😁

  • @andrewdbeach
    @andrewdbeach Před 4 lety +141

    I guess you could say the engineers tried to abort us 😂

    • @rockboi91
      @rockboi91 Před 4 lety +13

      A very late-term abortion lol

    • @mickeypopa
      @mickeypopa Před 4 lety +8

      A genocidal abortion, at that.

  • @bullseye6969
    @bullseye6969 Před 4 lety +31

    Alien Covenant is one of my biggest Disappointment.
    expected way better when watched Prometheus.

  • @mikejustus8570
    @mikejustus8570 Před rokem +1

    Great video!!! Love the Aliens Lore and now I have a better understanding!!! Wish we lived in a time of space travel

    • @BernStoogin
      @BernStoogin Před rokem

      Wait you watch these movies and they make you WANT space travel?

  • @shirleyallen7960
    @shirleyallen7960 Před 4 lety +1

    I loved both prequel films and I am looking forward to the next one. Let Ridley Scott finish what he started.

  • @shadowsgamingcorner
    @shadowsgamingcorner Před 4 lety +20

    I love your narrations, you could make anything interesting

  • @gipsydanger7379
    @gipsydanger7379 Před 4 lety +7

    Keep up the awesome work my friend :) And could you cover the robot from Wall- e?

  • @BatBrakesBones
    @BatBrakesBones Před 4 lety +2

    I have not watched a single one of these because they seem convoluted. But I can't help but wonder about the story. Super intriguing. I love channels like these that explain it well. I don't wanna waste time with the movies since it seems like they're a mess.

  • @TheRandysilverwolf
    @TheRandysilverwolf Před 3 lety +7

    Here's an important weakness in the plot of Prometheus that needs explanation: the cave paintings on Earth all give the location of the "military installation" planet, and not the Engineer homeworld or some other place. Why is this? Did military installation planet really have a different purpose somehow? Why would the Engineers direct humanity there?

    • @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203
      @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 Před 2 lety +1

      They told them not to go there. May be some engineers didn't agree with killing all humanity

    • @matthewphilip2609
      @matthewphilip2609 Před rokem

      @@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 Engineers: dont visit us here's a map of where we live!
      Jokes aside I think it was a warning that engineers will come down to earth from that planet to kill the humans if they misbehave

  • @jvvayne555
    @jvvayne555 Před 4 lety +48

    Will you do a video on
    THE BOOK OF ELI

    • @annabellee5576
      @annabellee5576 Před 4 lety +5

      That would be fantastic

    • @mtnd02.06
      @mtnd02.06 Před 4 lety +2

      Could have sworn he did...
      Unless I'm thinking of something else.

    • @jvvayne555
      @jvvayne555 Před 4 lety

      MtnD0 2.0 no he hasn’t sadly

    • @mtnd02.06
      @mtnd02.06 Před 4 lety +2

      @@jvvayne555
      Damn, it might have been another request then.
      Hopefully he'll make one at somepoint, it was a great film.
      And still so much more that I want to know about it.

  • @RedVelvetUnderground333
    @RedVelvetUnderground333 Před 4 lety +13

    Prometheus was so good, the vibe it had, covenant I enjoyed but not as much , it seemed to lack direction

    • @RedVelvetUnderground333
      @RedVelvetUnderground333 Před 3 lety

      JapaneseGiant Lizard1234 I wanted to see more engineers, David, and Shaw, and less prototype aliens against a crew.

  • @freedo333
    @freedo333 Před 3 lety

    The narrator makes a splendid point about the succession of creations destroying their creators starting at 11:19 my compliments :)

  • @JohnMakesFilm
    @JohnMakesFilm Před 3 lety +1

    9:44 - "... to fight an ancient war against an unknown foe..." I'd love to see a film about that

  • @PugilistCactus
    @PugilistCactus Před 4 lety +10

    Pretty sure the Xeno's were made before David, it just has so many genome editing abilities for adaptation. Davids just playing with a weapon he doesn't understand.
    To me it seems there is more then one version of the goo, or at least it can be edited to be volatile. One version to create life, another to destroy.

    • @mayarosexxx
      @mayarosexxx Před rokem

      Yes I think David found their designs and adjusted them.

  • @winningjubbly9712
    @winningjubbly9712 Před 4 lety +29

    I always thought the engineers that David destroyed in Covenant were the same as the ones in Prometheus, and the reason they looked more like us was because the filmmakers didn't want to go to the effort and expense of all the make-up that was necessary for hundreds of people.
    So have I been wrong all this time? They were supposed to look less like the engineers from Prometheus?

    • @red0guy
      @red0guy Před 4 lety +5

      They were the same it was confirmed by Ridley.

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 Před rokem +1

      Well just like humans they all have unique looks

    • @calebray4168
      @calebray4168 Před rokem +1

      @@red0guy are they? When did he say that? I swear it was confirmed they’re a sub species

  • @richardsnodgrass8647
    @richardsnodgrass8647 Před 4 lety

    Best explanation yet. Thanks. :-)

  • @parkerwhitehead987
    @parkerwhitehead987 Před 4 lety +4

    If we consider the AVP and alien timelines, which I know Ridley didnt direct besides first alien, then it shows the predators visiting earth sometime in the past. Now engineers and predators are rival civilizations and our ancestors began to worship the predators while the engineers were away. Engineers might not have liked this and maybe thats why in Prometheus the ships current target was Earth before the outbreak happened on the ship. Now I havent read much of the comics, so this is based mainly on cinematic observations.

  • @mathewpoole3589
    @mathewpoole3589 Před 4 lety +56

    Ridley destroyed the xenomorph mythos by forcing David into the role or creator.
    What made them so scary were the things that were unknown about them.
    Aliens introducing the Queen and Warrior class made it clear that they could come in any form, and further emphasized the threat they posed.
    Having them now be nothing more then a cyborgs pet project has made them as lame and pathetic as an experiment gone awry.

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 Před 4 lety +16

      Except David did not create them. He was doing his on experiments on them but considering in Prometheus they go into the room with the canisters and there is a relief etched into the wall clearly showing a Xenomorph they obviously already existed.

    • @mathewpoole3589
      @mathewpoole3589 Před 4 lety +6

      Ridley's own words, were that he wanted to have David be the creator of the original Alien xenomorph.
      As the xenos carry over various physical characteristics from host to host, it could be surmised that it took generations of different host species to look the way they did in the original movies.
      Yet, even tho Prometheus clearly showed a distinctive looking xeno at the end. David somehow managed to create a strain that looked a lot like the original xenos even tho they were using the same species of host as the one from Prometheus.

    • @AaronSoul725
      @AaronSoul725 Před 4 lety +3

      Mathew Poole in other words Scott had no idea what he was doing

    • @gxrssll
      @gxrssll Před 4 lety +1

      Yet after the original film that unknown element was ruined by having about 50 Xenos in the movie. The thing that made them so scary was that you barely saw it, knew nothing about it etc. Only after Aliens do we learn more about them. They haven't been scary since Aliens lol.

    • @mathewpoole3589
      @mathewpoole3589 Před 4 lety +2

      @@gxrssll
      So to you, its plausible that a ship containing hundreds of eggs would only ever infect 1 host?
      Alien was a claustrophobic horror.
      Aliens was a run and gun action movie.
      Despite the difference in genera, the menacing effect of the xenomorph was not lost.
      The only difference was that instead of a solitary game of hide and heel, we got to see the effect of a plant wide infestation.
      We still knew little to nothing about them. Yes we saw were the original eggs would have come from, but that was it.
      It took the cowardly more stealthy xeno from alien, and introduced us to its more aggressive and confrontational warrior cousin.
      Again, nothing else was reveal, questions were left answered. All we knew is that xenos were more of a threat then initially thought.

  • @MRIDK-hy8kq
    @MRIDK-hy8kq Před 4 lety +5

    Yay been waiting for the engineers

  • @DarkExhibit11
    @DarkExhibit11 Před 2 lety +2

    This universe was phenomenal . . . Prometheus was a great masterpiece. . . .sadly People fail to appreciate . . .

  • @Aganie.
    @Aganie. Před 4 lety +1

    12:11 The new bane looks great