Prometheus Script Explains DEACON - Creator of Engineers
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- čas přidán 13. 10. 2022
- In this video, we’ll be doing an in-depth exploration of the topic of the deacon and its crucial role in the Engineer's origins.
Music: Atlantis by Audionautix • Atlantis - Audionautix
The mystery of the creation of life is one of the main themes of Prometheus and the deacon and Engineers seem to be the key to solving it, however as many people know most of Engineer scenes never made it to screen. Luckily somebody in the Prometheus production team released the early draft script which reveals crucial insights about the deacon and Engineers including the translated dialogue that I covered in my other video and much more.
The early draft script has a deep and detailed explanation of the deacon creature which is highly related to the black goo and the creation of Engineers.
In this video I’ll fully explain the creature of deacon based on the information from the early script that was subsequently edited and many important scenes and explanations about Engineers were reduced or completely removed.
I’ll also explain who is the deacon creature on the mural and who is the deacon at the end of the movie, since these two specimen are not exactly the same.
It is really important to know what deacon creature actually is because one of the major themes of the movie is discovering the origin of life and the deacon ties directly to this question. It may seem like Engineers could literally create new lifeforms and therefore one might think that they possessed all the secrets of the origin of life, which is the reason Weyland so desperately wanted to meet them. However, as Elizabeth said in the movie, if they create humans, who created them which ties to the discovery in the script that even mighty Engineers had their version of God in the form of the deacon.
The movie shows these scenes however the translation of the writing on the giant head is missing. By the chosen one, the transcript means the engineer who sacrificed himself to be a host for the creature that they called the lord which is actually the first deacon as we learn later in the script.
Holloway: David what the hell is that.
David translates the writings: Our lord came from the chosen one in the time when our ancestors birthed life. His sacred blood was our salvation. His sacred blood through our lips birthed life on other worlds.
The movie shows the exact same scene however, it is extremely hard to notice a depiction of an impregnated Engineer of the mural for that reason most people never realized the story the mural was portraying. Not to mention the missing translation of the writings next to the monument.
The Holloway asks: What do you think are inside Urns or Vases whatever they are.
David: I’m not entirely certain, but I believe the humanoid seen being attacked orally gave birth to this being and your Engineers worshiped it. I believe what is ever inside these capsules might be some kind of experiment. If my translation if correct then they were trying to recreate the blood of this being whom they worshiped.
These extremely interesting passages suggest that the black goo was Engineer’s attempt to replace the blood of their lord, a substance that can produce a new lifeform, which is something that Engineer could not yet master despite being interstellar species. The black goo failed at producing life forms in the engineer image, which may suggest that the secret of creating of life cannot be achieved through scientific/technological progress since even the most advanced species in the Alien universe couldn’t attain it.
In addition, the early draft script suggests the giant head monument was built to commemorate the Engineer called the chosen one who sacrificed himself to give birth to the fist deacon. This being had uniques properties that allowed Engineers to use its blood to procreate and seed lifeforms in the Engineers’ image on other worlds like it is portrayed in the beginning of Prometheus.
In fact the opening scene in the script confirms this notion. The first few pages of the scrip have the extended opening scene which is similar to the deleted scene. However the script has the English transcription of the dialogue between Engineers, which sheds light to many questions we had about the movie.
The two engineers, one walking behind the other stop right next to the river. They turn and face each other.
The one standing closest to the River has a young majestic , pure white face and black eyes. The other is hundreds of thousands of years older than him and that is evident from the elder’s wrinkled, thin almost wood like skin.
The elder holds out a box - simple but completed design and kneels down on the rocks and hold up the box. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It’s sad to see how deep this script went only for us to be given the surface level bs!
True, they could have included much more in the movie.
Release the 3 hour cut lol
This script was a fake
Why did they feel like we didn’t NEED these parts of the story? I could watch a four hour Prometheus/Alien movie no problem
@@jamespaul6315 What makes you say that, what proof do you have?
It’s downright criminal what they did to this script. The more you dive in, the more brilliant this thing is.
I wish Ridley would combine all previous scripts to make a follow up movie, but a positive one with the history instead of action and bs.
I think the mystery made the movie fine.
You would not find yourself wanting to know more if they gave it all out.
@@mirak63 yes you would. Alien is a perfect example. The first movie explains a fair amount of the Xenomorph’s growth process and attributes, but people wanted even more.
Aliens explains even more about the Xenomorph hierarchy, names the creatures, showcases a completely new design, the alien queen, and people STILL wanted more.
Alien 3 gave us the information Xenomorphs take the DNA of their hosts to better suit their environment so when they chest burst they eventually acclimate to their surroundings. Aka why the alien runs on all fours, as it came from a dog.
Alien Resurrection explains EVEN MORE of Xenomorph anatomy and what happens when someone’s impregnated with one. The host is fed a small amount of DNA from the alien inside of them and that’s why all of Ripley’s clones come out fused with alien DNA.
And the fans STILL wanted more, and we got the Deacon! But that was all we got from this movie about Xenomorphs, how they were created, but it doesn’t even disclose if the Engineer was impregnated before hypersleep or from the tentacle monster!
For an addition to the Alien series, there should’ve been so much more information on the most critical part of the series; the aliens!
The supposed Prometheus script went too in depth, but at the same time the movie gave us absolutely nothing to work with! The deacon should’ve been the star of the movie, but instead it was an afterthought for before the credits. There wasn’t enough from this movie, and that’s why it’s bad
@@moistwrmonastring1017deacon is stupid xenomorphs stupid shit is unnecessary & goofy for modern day appeal engineers is the best direction for sure
My best guess is they wanted to make it Lovecraftian in nature, where we only scratch the surface of something we are way in over our heads for.
Just imagine the amount of time and money spent by writers, editors, review, board, etc.… To make a conscious decision to keep this fascinating backstory out of the final cut!
They didnt want to offend christians
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 they could release more than one cut....wgaf if the bible thumpers feel left out......if it offends them they shouldn't watch it......they could leave a trigger warning sayin something like "incorperates christian themes"......also if they were smart enough they would like the idea and can use it in their religious discussions
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 fiction is fiction, as a christian ive seen much much wrost which those deserve much much more outrage
and cheap stories about humanity created by alien is much more outragous than a deeper story about humanity created by religious aliens trying to resurect their god, as cheap attacks look more malevolent
Better to keep it ambiguous
@@nuance9000 but is it? This film has been unfortunately slated for years. I feel like all of this omitted dialogue would have helped.
Wow they really cut everything that would of made the movie truly amazing, I really liked Prometheus but this would of made it a thousand times better and more understandable. Fantastic video, you do great work.
It's truly criminal. Now we don't get none of the ever.... Sucks
The amount of material this channel gets out of the cut material of just the one duology is insane
LOL. Duologie is such a funny looking word.
😂 Like squeezing a used lemon 🍋ver and over again and again
@@QarthCEO now if you'll excuse me.. all this talk has made me hungry 🍋😬😖
Duologie is not a word
@@pegg00
duologie (plural duologies)
(nonstandard spelling of duology) A series comprising two parts, particularly in genre fiction.
Great to see you back Kroft, we miss you man. The engineers arrogantly thought they could recreate the decons gift.
And produced an absolute horror. That's an awesome origin for the xenomorph
Perhaps it is not a gift that you really want.
@@joefilter2923
The Pandora box was a gift 🎁
Much like humans thought they could recreate the engineers gift it’s like a theme with a theme
@@justincoates4582 Weyland Yutani killed a xenomorph. Their blood made contact with ants, termite, wasp brought from earth. Thus produce an alien queen. The synthetics take refugee or run away.
Prometheus is so much a better movie than people give it credit for. Great video series!
It was a great movie, but it could have been epic if they'd included the actual story in the script. Instead, Scott tried to make a mismashed jumbled up nonsense that people are only deciphering 10 yrs later.
Then came covenant, another disaster.
@@muskokamike127Covenant (or Paradise) had so much Potential... Maybe even more than Prometheus. But at least Prometheus is kinda mysterious and gave us something "new" mostly
Prometheus on its own is an okay move, the problem is that as a prequel to Alien it's s*it.
its always been sad to me that the alien franchise never really got the deeper world building it deserves
Seriously 🥲 they just dumb them down to action movies
@@yeetbaljeeet5435 yea i was so sad when i watched all the sequels. the only good ones were the og and prometheus. but then they dropped the ball super hard with covenant. im assuming it was one of those shareholder disasters where corporatism won out over finishing the story they started in prometheus.
Seems like it did get the deeper world building but then people went out of their way to cut the footage. Hmmm, wonder why
I missed your content so much! I hope you keep it going!
Thanks, I will !
@@kroft_movies Good! 🙌🏾
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@@kroft_movies Hey man love your videos! Could you possibly link me to the unreleased script? I too share a passion for films and I would LOVE to read it!
@@kroft_movies so the acid blood not really acid.
They should have kept this stuff in the film and probably split Prometheus into 2 films.
So the Engineers were trying to create a life similar to their own after realizing that the evolution they reached would not make possible to procreate never again (leading to extintion), and the only way to achieve it would be creating a older version of themselves through Deacon's blood (reigniting their species)...maybe thats why they seeded so many planets until the point of running out of it (many failed attempts), then they tried to recriate Deacon's Blood but created Black Goo instead. All this would explain why they seem to have abandoned all their creations after a while, the only race they kept contact was the race David wiped out, and they were very similar to Engineers (and Engineers left structures there hinting they would come back - they didnt do the same on Earth), maybe they wanted to observe and study them more to be closer to recreating themselves, maybe the other races were used to refine their methods (or refine the production of Back Goo)... this would also explain why this race similar to Engineers are less advanced then humans and predators for example... their are a more recent species, maybe the last one Engineers created.
According to Ridley Scott Jesus was sent by the Engineers to take humanity back on the right track but because we killed him the Engineers got pissed and decided to wipe us out lol
@@blasty137No, he was taken from his mother, taught some things, then sent back with knowledge.
Then got killed. He was just a better informed person
Holy shit that comment was awesome dude. You answered so many of my questions
I'm so glad to see you're still covering the stuff. Your videos have given so much context and understanding (especially to Prometheus) that make the film a much more fascinating entry. To me, these videos, the music and your voice have become synonymous with the Alien franchise. Thanks for all the work, man!
Prometheus is amazing and has so much potential, I still hope we get the third prequel film.
Just wish he hadn't been pressuring making Covenant the way he did. From what I heard he wasn't going to have Xenos at all in the trilogy but "fans" and possibly the studio kept bugging and nagging him over the lack of them in Prometheus.
Would be very cool to see a planet that has been modified by David with all kinds of alien life. Something on a more grand scale than what we saw in Covenant.
@@benzielke7149 Well he's right about it being dead. I'd love to see it come back too, but its not gonna happen. Thought it was far from terrible, but the inclusion of the xenos was fucking stupid and ruined it IMO
@@joenobody5913 I don't disagree with you. And to have it be a Deacon type... I thought that was lame they should have had all kinds of stuff creeping around that was NOT what David was trying to achieve. it would tie in to the ending better
@@GrimmShadowsII The name of the second film was supposed to be Alien: Paradise. If you're going to make a prequel to Alien, then do a prequel that makes sense and connects to Alien. I wouldn't have minded Prometheus and a sequel based entirely on the Engineers snd the Deacon f it was just based on the Alien universe, but they purposefully mislead the fans into believing it would be something it wasn't. That's where the issues with the fans and the studio started, because they wanted something else, and he was pushed into making changes that ultimately made the movies disasters.
I've read the original script, and yes, it might not be easy to adapt on to the screen, but it most certainly beats anything Ridley Scott decided to cut it into using other writers.
Instead of a real sequel to Aliens (Alien 5) by Neil Blomkamp, we got the Covenant mess which completely ruined everything built up in Prometheus and the ending. And now he's pushing to get his hands on the Alien TV series as well, trying to take away that project from Noah Hawley who has done some brilliant work in Fargo and Legion for example.
Sorry, but Ridley Scott shouldn't be handed any more Alien projects, because he's being lead around by the studio and marketing by their leash like a dog.
Yooooo Kroft !!!! Don't even need to watch the video before knowing it's gonna be great and so insightful to the Alien story line. Keep up the great work man!
Thanks bro 👍
One of the BEST on CZcams….!❤
I really wish they would have continued down Ridley's original plan for the prequels opposed to the jump they made into Covenant. What an amazing backstory - super philosophical and interesting contrast of the Xenomorphs vs decon - mirroring angels and demons
You should blame Ridley Scott himself, since he's the one who openly stated he thought the alien aspects were boring & he wanted to lean into the idea of rogue AI. Plus he's a drunk who leveraged his power with 20th Century Fox to try to setup a 3rd prequel to be his son's directorial debut.
Dan O'Bannon, Giger, James Cameron, & Stan Winston all contributed much more positively to the ALIENS universe than Scott ever did.
Not to mention the way it compares the way they tried to re-create their chosen blood! It mirrors exactly the way people try to re-create Jesus blood, make people drink it and create horrors 😂
What was essential was that you briefly repeated points from the other video. That made this video work. If you had solely spoken of deacons without the vital framework, we would be lost. Excellent work.
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Great to have more of your content, hope you're doing well Kroft! Thank you for another great video
Dude WHAT!! That makes the story SO much better! Why would they absolutely gut the film the way they did? Cmonnnn
Welcome back, Kroft!! If you only knew how many people you made happy by your incredible content. Thank you.
Really Glad to see you posting a video. I really enjoy your insight, it's always cool.
Thank you so much for coming back with some more Prometheus
Stocked that you're back. Amazing content and showmanship on your work. Keep it going.
Its crazy how memories can be twisted. After the video, i felt an urge to listen to the particular soundtrack you play in the background. Knowing Prometheus and the Alien franchise pretty well, i was sure it was one of their tracks. I guess watching your videos for years has conditioned me into thinking it was. Thank you for crediting Audionotix (Atlantis). Amazing video as always!
Wait is this not an official alien song from the movies or games? Lol, for some reason all this time I thought it was.
Great to see you back creating new content 👍
Thanks !
Love your content brother! Great to see another video. I really wish they wouldve explored this more in the sequel rather than going back to primarily an action movie. I really love prometheus and the lore surrounding it. I didn't even know it was in the alien universe until the sequel. I thought they just threw in some cheeky references at the end.
I'm so happy to see you upload another video. Your lore videos are amazing and I hope we get some new movies/shows soon for you to make more content for.
I'm very happy to see that you still make stuff like this! I thought that you stopped after your last video 1 year ago. Please keep it going, I love your stuff!
Cool to see you put out more material. I like it very much. It's detailed and well told. Would love to see more.
And the legend returns! Glad to see you back!
Thanks !
This actually makes so much more sense. Why david was so upset upon the decons death in the movie. More then curiousity at that point he was finishing the engineers work. He was emotional, real in that moment of witnessing his attempt of creating it be ruined.
Deacons death??
@@TobeyStarburst they probably meant the Neomorph.
Without you, I would have never been a huuuge prequel fan. Kroft, thanks for these awesome theory and explained videos 🙏🏻
You are back! Made my morning! Thank you!
What a coincidence, I used to watch your videos a few years back to learn more about the "Aliens movies" and today it just came to my mind and I decided to rewatch both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant today and wanted to do a bit digging to see if there is anything I missed like deleted scenes and such and it just so happened to be just after you returned to this channel. Seems like fate but I really do enjoy your content, it's very interesting and I hope you make more videos, don't let this channel die.
Haha, so funny, exactly the same story here my friend. Loved this channel a few years ago, and just hopped back, to find a new video! Gotta say, I love these movies and I still think about this story, hoping to find the next chapter's continuation on the Covenant with David.
Bro it's been a while I missed your content !!! Keep up the work !! Upload more !
Happy to see you back we Love your videos man we need more !!
A GREAT deal of that draft was written by John Spaihts. Particularly the cut scene with David translating "the warning/ chamber curse' which echoes such warnings found on cartouches inscribed on clay seals to secure tombs in the Valley of the Kings in Egypt. Also a 'point of proof' that the Engineers had given their beliefs and faith that were apparntly locked in their DNA -- or they returned to guide their fledging created life form of Earth. I've liked this for this reason. So many civilizations who adopted pyramids as temples and holy places, the fact that the Engineers were designed for the film to resemble the Greek and Roman marble statues, as though they were honoring the true Lords of Perfection, the Givers of life. The language was based on Indo-Proto-European roots which are still being studied and spoken to this day. I find the Engineers fascinating, would love to see more of them and how it all ties together. They are a culture to be explored.
The man, the myth, the legend is back!! Thanks for the upload 🙏 I would love to see video reviews of new movies or even possibly tv shows that you enjoyed or maybe even thought were subpar. Honestly, I would watch anything you put out.
Hi Kroft. First of all, I want to thank you for your new video. Thanks for trying to explain things. Your videos are just so excitingly done, also the background music is just fitting. I can't wait until all the mysteries are revealed. Maybe in a series or a movie.
I would love it so much if you have an interview with Ridley Scott. You deserve it.
Thanx for the great content...glad to see you are back!
Welcome back. I love your analysis of the Alien franchise and always look forward to your breakdowns. This was really interesting 👌🏻
You have returned when most needed!
The best cut of Prometheus is the one that didn't come out.
You came back! And I missed it! I'm so glad you're back!
welcome back sir!!!!!! your videos are amazing :)
Thanks !
this universe has so much more to offer.. they really missed an opportunity with diving deeper into Prometheus. im still holding on to hope for a prometheus 2 or some kind of prequel about the engineers
Maybe your best so far, finally! Have loved this movie since its release, but now I understand it!
Glad you're back, brother. Your content is amazing.
It's good to hear you once again, Kroft. Thank you for bringing more light to the much cut down masterpiece that PROMETHEUS film is. I still watch PROMETHEUS: Workprint Edition, as well as "Chaos Edition". I'm also waiting for PROMETHEUS: NINTH CIRCLE EDITION. We'll see if it gets published, one can only hope. Thank you for the video!
You're back! We have missed you! Great video!
Love your videos! You explain these movies better then anything out there. Iv watched them all a few times and any ?s I had you have answered! Thanks very much keep it up!
Better than watching anything on YT this channel. Keel it up!
Thanks
@@kroft_movies I keep watching these because the tone and atmosphere, as well as information is just beautifully put together!
I look forward to every installment…..! Awesome content….! Thanks Kroft….!
Thanks !
Thanks for posting 🙏🏼 I missed your content
I’ve watched all your videos. Still had some questions on the deacon which you’ve answered. Thanks so much.
Look forward to your new space channel
Your videos are fantastic! I love the eerie music and your voice. The editing and production of them are on point and give a sense of wonder… I wish that they went with this portrayal and Engineer sorta lore. I can just know that a version of this story would be so fascinating and cerebral in the manner or likeness of the great science fiction story ever told. In my opinion anyways… also like the comics having the Precursors or progenitors, I forget what they were called.. the original space jockeys and how they created the engineers.., anyways good work my friend cheers
No wayyy😭😭 I was just back on this channel yesterday for the first time in a longgg time and you come back , and you come out with a video today ! What a crazy coincidence , great to see you back 💯
Subscribed, you've taught me so much about this movie I've got to rewatch it. There's so much that I missed 😫 amazing 👏
So glad you uploaded. Been such a long time.
Missed you croft! Hope your bangers keep on coming
Wow! Kroft is here!
Man I love your content the music goes so well with everything you talk bout and how deep you go into it and I'm glad your back keep it up.......and please dnt ever change the music for these videos it makes it more interesting for the story
You're back!!!! I love your videos!
i like both those movies. I wish there were ten more of them. Fassbinder's two characters were the perfect B story to the creator search. Masterful
For reals…these movies keep going and going…especially with Krofts help. I love Ridley Scott.
Kroft is BACK!!!!
What a beautiful explanation! Thank you for all this profundity
I really appreciate these videos, it gives me a whole new appreciation for this movie!
Knowing the engineers were going extinct makes David's Ozzy scene wiping em all out sooo much more woah now. Great video 👍
10:25 the engineer's version of the blood of the 1st deacon was ingested by non-engineers so the results would be different but in a way, they did create new life, but not in the desired results.
Happy to u see making videos again man
Years later & bro still keeping us updated. That’s commitment. 👍🏾
Bro you need to do more videos! We need more information please keep up the great projects! Awesome chanel!
Thanks I will !
Just found your channel and started binging your videos. Great stuff would love to see more
Kroooooft is back with a new video! You made my day 🎉
Glad Kroft is back. Looks like he didn’t get drafted
Ayyyyy - thx for this. Engineer society had always been a cool focal point for me tbh.
Yes, Kroft is back!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Thank you for the video…
It's so odd that I search for your videos yesterday, planned on watching a few days before, after months of not having re-watched them - wanted to because it sets a nice escapist atmosphere in my head.
I would have loved to have scene this full scrip realize into the movie. ❤ you hard work!!
Welcome back!
WOOO Kroft is back! This made my day!
I’ve been waiting for so long for one of your videos.
It's always interesting seeing and knowing stuff like this because in a sense the only thing really missing is the context given by what was cut because often it really is still part of the texture of the narrative and still visible within. In this case it is almost poetic in the synergy afforded through itself in relation to its plot
There is just nothing like this series, Prometheus specifically, I love the eldrich horror vibes, wish there was way more that could touch this movie
Thank you for creating this video. Tragic what this script became on screen. Hopefully, someday, Scott will fill in the blanks this provided.
Long time no see old friend.
It's been Awhile
Kroft! Great to see you back 😎
I didn't realize this was new! Welcome back :D!
We missed you man.
What happened to the Deacon at the end of Prometheus?
This shows what The Deacon did after the end of the movie it’s AMAZING:
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I like that background sound soooo much, gives me goosebumps everytime I watch these videos here
Gawd i thought we would never hear from you again about this saga. Appreciate your vids bro. Lol also your voice is very calming
Thank you for the video! Great staff.. I which they’ll make sequel . I miss Prometheus/ alien world
What A HUGE Mistake it Was to Leave Out The Dialog Between David and The Engineer ... This Was An Important Part of the Movie !!!!
Kroft! I am sooooo happy that ur back, I missed your videos, I hope you're doing well and more videos are on the way :)
Great stuff Kroft.
Imagine how goated a tv series based on prometheus would be
Great too see you back, Kroft!
This script could have given some of the many answers the Prometheus left us with after the premiere.
I looked so much forward to watch this prequel til my favorite series of Alien movies.
But while I thought I would get a lot of answers to all the mystery especially around the Space Jockey, I found a whole bunch of new doors open, giving even more (unanswered) questions.
And that the remains of the Space Jockey seen in the original movie should be just the remains of a spacesuit of an Engineer made me sigh.
I recall how I, in the beginning of the movie, was sceptical about Noomi Rapace being able to fill in the role as a 'new' Ripley, but that was one of few positive surprises... and then they killed her off between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, which I to this day have only seen once.
Wow, this starts to make sense now. Thank you very much.