Bishop's Xenomorph Encounter in the Tunnel - The Missing "Aliens" Scene?
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- Of all the deleted and "missing" scenes of Aliens, one of the most fascinating is a moment where Bishop has a close-call with an alien while in the colony service tunnel. Was this scene actually filmed? Does Lance Henriksen have the answer?
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"Priority one - Ensure return of lost Bishop tunnel footage for analysis. All other priorities rescinded. Crew expendable."
Hey not bad.. Mother would totally second that! ✌😎
Damn you Ash haha
Good call. Unfortunately, this video only speculates that there is lost footage of an alien encounter in the tunnel. Apparently no evidence to support that. But I remember watching this scene for the first time in the theater and my immediate thought was... "Oh yeah... Bishop's DEFINITELY going to run into something in this tunnel. The setup is just too perfect for it not to happen." But, alas, no encounter. :(
👏👏👏. Well done.
@@ytsjcuser agreed, the setup was there, though this uneventful event also sets up suspense as well...not knowing when and if there was danger adds to the chaotic final...
Always thought the way Bishop says "Watch your fingers" as he is being sealed in the pipe was a perfect representation of how he was programmed to serve humans, even when being sent on a dangerous assignment.
Hoss Windu
And when he tells them how the blast that will wipe out everything around is in megatons.
I like how he looked at the small pistol and was like "what the hell am I supposed to do with that?"
Maybe also a reference to the scene at the table when he was doing his thing with the knife with Bill Paxton! Rip Bill by the way!!
@@dominicomegon4714 - The pistol was not to shoot aliens. They were to prevent live capture. They just didn't know it when they dropped.
@@angelajohnson6659 holy shit nice!
The balance between calm and chaos in Aliens was perfect. I miss the 80's/90's.
I miss the James Cameron of the 80's/90's he's lost his ability to tell good stories
The biggest thing we can probably all mourn; effects being all practical. No CGI armies or sky beams. Compare Ripley in the loader (all real) with the gun walkers of Matrix.
Word😊
@@navylaks2 old school Cameron ended with Titanic
rest in peace bill paxton, gone but never forgotten.
Loved him in True Lies .... "Take her, take her..."
Only dude to get killed by Terminator, Alien and Predator.
@@T-1001 me and my friends always call him deadmeat paxman , he dies in EVERYTHING :)
i loved him in near dark.
@@T-1001 in what predator he dies?
Lance Henriksen is one of those actor who actually goes deep in his work, to actually give a good answer like he is an expert just shows it.
Henriksen is absolutely amazing. I think there's some statement of his out there where he mentions experiencing identity problems after his part is over because he gets so caught up in the roles he plays, he really basically becomes the character. I haven't seen all his movies yet but he's given a stellar performance in everything I've seen him in. He and the creature effects crew basically are the only things that made Harbinger Down enjoyable for me, and he'll probably be the only reason I bother watching the later Pumpkin Heads or that one Hellraiser movie he stars in.
@notchjohnson1 Come on. The late, great Ian Holm knocked his performance out of the park.
His Ash was brilliant. When he just appears behind Ripley is terrifying.
I can't believe they didn't include the turret scenes in the theatrical cut. That part is crucial in showing the Aliens collective in thats why they learned to use the ceiling instead of going down corridors in the last battle scene.
I remember seeing this scene as a kid sometime in the late 80s when it was aired on network TV. I never saw it again, until years later, and thus, I thought I had imagined it in my youth. It wasn't until I got an extended edition (sometime in the late 90s) that I saw it again. Anyway, it is one of my favorite scenes. I agree. I don't know why they cut it from the theatrical version.
@@NibblesTheNibbler I saw the same extended cut on cable and never saw it again until the DVD box set came out with the Directors cut. I kept telling people about it but no one had seen it.
That scene weighed down the over-all tempo, and your explanation is flawed. The colonisers had walled themselves up as well, and the xenomorphs using the ceiling was also the big reveal as to why it never helped. It was a double horror moment.
The turrent scene was in the theatrical version I was at the drive in when I was a kid...Was it because it was a drive in??? At the time it was only 1 of a few remaining drive ins and it is still alive and active in Arkansas. the Kenda drive in in Marshall.....I remember it clearly and was always confused I never saw it again until more than 15 years later on TV.. I watched it on vhs at my friends several times and would comment to them how there was a missing scene where guns were mowing down aliens in a hallway and they would laugh at me and say I was making it up. Then when the version aired on tv I made a bet with them for a kegg of beer and boom they were speechless when they saw I was right for all those years.. Could it be the more full version was released to the drive ins for some reason???
I loved that scene. It's very good for the pacing, and it's so bloody intense. But afterwards it gets you thinking if they've stopped coming, or have they just changed tactics like... Most will just think of levity, but others will think "where else are they gonna try and get in?" 🤔😯😅
Of all the cut scenes that need to be in the film, the auto-sentry gun firing on the hoard of Aliens is in my opinion a very important one. The tension it builds as the ammo counter nears 0, is gripping. And it establishes that the Marines do try using their equipment to protect themselves, even fairly effectively for a while, until the aliens devise a new tactic. It makes their approach through the ceiling more meaningful and a clear sign of their group intelligence. The aliens are working together like a coordinated army.
That scene was silly, and it's the only one I'm glad was removed. It just seemed like Cameron saw an early laptop in the mid 80s and thought it looked cool, so he wanted to put that fancy high-tech portable PC technology in his movie.
I always thought this scene was in the theatrical version. I watched the movie recently and kept waiting for the scene to appear and it never did!
I asked Lance about this scene at a convention in Pasadena quite a number of years ago. He said nothing was ever filmed.
Prove it.
@@N73B60 Give him a call. Ask him yourself.
@@N73B60 how can you prove that something doesn't exist. Your literally asking for nothing to be proved
@@N73B60he’s telling the truth I asked Lance the same thing at DC Awesome con years ago
"That's right, Bishop should go, good idea!
i guess we can just count you out of everything?...
@@michaelford1124 That's right man. Why don't you go?
I would have said the same thing.
So much for being the "ultimate badass"
Bishop: Believe me I’d prefer not to. I may be synthetic but I’m not stupid.
I love the bit in the novelization where Bishop says it'd be better if he'd had wheels or tracks, but was stuck with a sub-optimal drive system because of his creators' sentimentality.
I also wonder if somewhere in Bishop's mind he wonders if his mind will be "erased" possibly to prevent them from either developing a personality or worse, becoming a psycho like David or Ash? Star Wars its SOP to wipe their minds.
@Phelan They should have just made the Androids a giant spider with a human head, kinda like in The Thing. Who would not want to work around something like that? Plus the Aliens would have take one look at that abomination and collectively said, "forget it Queenie...that damn thing is Lovecraftian level shit...we OUT!"
I always wondered if the marines might have had luck looking for some sort of dolly in the facility. Like, spend ten minutes looking and save an hour of slow, laborious crawl.
@@PikkaBird ... The question though is, if this was real life, those wheels might have added too much sound/noise vibration in the pipe. That would attract more attention. It would indeed need to be rubber wheels. Bishop would still have to be careful. If due to wheels he zips by one of the cross openings/tunnels with an alien in it, that alien would alert more aliens. But the point of having no easier way to travel faster was to add more time & tension, thus dragging the length of the film longer to get your movie ticket's worth.
Yet wheels and tracks fail when a ladder is encountered.
I think showing a xenomorph ignoring bishop because he’s an android would have made the queen attacking him later on even creepier. It would have displayed that she was smart enough to attack him just cause she wanted to, whereas the regular xenomorphs act on instinct alone.
We already had a scene showing it's intelligence: it used an elevator
@@philmcclenaghan7056 They cut the scene where she solved Rubik's cube.
My favorite moment in that scene is when someone hands Bishop a semi auto pistol. A human would keep it, but Bishop is a synthetic and in cold reasoning knows if he is in that tunnel and the aliens find him a single pistol won't make a difference. So he just clears the action and hands it back.
It’s was of course Vasquez that handed him the gun! 💪🏻
Bishop is also programmed to under no circumstances harm a human or through a course of action allow a human to be harmed. from what I know secret 'combat androids' exist in the universe but regular androids are prohibited from using firearms- but not knives it would seem (the knife trick with Hudson). Bullets ricochet and can fire through relatively heavy gauge steel. So I doubt its worth the risk
That is exactly why I thought he handed it back as well!
I wondered for years why he did that
@@therecanbeonlyjohn Vasquez, a strong and well written female character!
@@callenbray8703 those rules dictate that an android must use a gun to defend a human, because otherwise they'd allow a human to come to harm. He didn't take he gun because he knew it'd be useless against their carapace
Lance is one of the 1980s greatest ever character actors. And one look at that haunted face, you'll never forget it. Bishop is iconic.
He was originally mean't to be the terminator.
He is amazing in every role- No matter how good or bad the film is.
I didn’t see the movies (as they slowly hit the screens) before reading the books. Lance completely brought Bishop to life for me and I loved to hate the weasely Burke too. Each of the films stands out, not only as part of the original trilogy but as a great work on their own.
For some reason I never get bored of this movie, I think I've watched it 40 times. #2 is Terminator 1. I think they are the 2 best sci fi films ever made.
TYSON 1999 you my friend are the reasons why cult classics happened even after 100 years people will still remember this film keep up the good work.
Alien, The Terminator, and The Thing are Sc-Fi horror that will never be topped. Cameron's attempts are fun but are laughably dated these days.
They knew how to make great films back then, reboots nowdays of the classics are just so lame.
I'm 45 and watched for 30th time just a few days ago.
@@henriccarlsson9052 I'm also 45 :P
RIP Bill. Phenomenal actor. One of my absolute favourites.
"Aliens" is still my favourite in the franchise.
Thanks for the great info.
One of my favorite Paxton roles was as the sleazy car salesman in True Lies. He killed it. That's Cameron's most underrated film.
Frailty is my favourite of his movies. He did a great job.
"Aliens" is still my favourite in the franchise."
Well, when you have only 2 choices, that's not that difficult.
Bill, was killed by terminator , alien, and predator, RIP.
I love that, because of the laws of robotics, the last thing Bishop says before he’s sealed in the pipe is “Watch your fingers,” making sure the humans are not harmed.
Bishop is probably my favorite Aliens character. He was a synthetic, but he was also a loyal Marine who delivered when they needed him most.
Not bad.. for a human 👊
I First thougt Not Bad.. vor a Woman...🙄
Queen takes Bishop.
@@mortenBP 😂
It's hard to explain to someone that hasn't seen this in the theatre how scary just this one scene was. You were in the tunnel with Bishop. You felt that claustrophobia and the fear that even in there they may be an alien lurking about. I vividly remember sitting in the seat at the cinema watching this part and the theatre was dead silent. I swear, we all stopped breathing for a minute or so. I remember how the local paper was advertising the movie as "Atlantic Canada's summer rollercoaster ride." I may not be quoting verbatim, but you get the idea.
"Atlantic Canada's summer rollercoaster ride" lol, I couldn't think of a more inadequate way to describe this movie without being deliberately facetious. I would've loved to see this in the cinema!
@@ninjabastard2 n7ñ
One little blooper about this scene, that once pointed out I was never able to unsee, when Vasquez cuts a cylindrical hole in the pipe you see the 'lid' dropping through and into the pipe, this is because the cutting tool is melting/destroying and thus removing a thin line of metal along the circumference of the hole and what is left (i.e. the 'lid') after it's finished is actually smaller than the hole itself by a few millimetres all the way around.
Yet once Bishop climbs into the pipe the 'lid' is replaced onto the pipe and it fits perfectly allowing Vasquez to re-weld it back into place. In reality the lid would have fallen right through the hole again and would have needed something to hold it in place and additional material to be welded into the gap to reseal it. That or the lid would have needed to be heated and stretched, if the thickness of the material allowed for that.
Like a metal worker I can say your theory depends of the pipe wall thickness, the closer the hole is to the diameter the easier is too place it back, imperfect but doable, and is the future so the cutter don't have an material lost so big like actual methods? Other technique is to overlap two sides and weld/ fill the two sides gap resulting, believe me, when you are in the need to keep monsters away you become full of ideas and resources XD
I noticed that scene too, never thought somebody would pick up on it.
there plasma torches are way more advanced so stretching and reshaping metal is simple its just a matter of how skillful they are with it keep in mind this is way in the future and there technology is way better in alien isolation amanda uses a plasma torch all through out the story its very versatile
What behooves my mind is how they just grab it right after cutting it. That metal should be super hot. Maybe in the future, welding/cutting metal can be done at low temps. 🤷
Since it is cylindrical I could retrofit it by few degrees and it wouldn’t fit, then weld about 80% of it back on with no issue. However in the movie it does show a perfect fit
Instead of Area 51 we should raid James Cameron’s under sea hideout on the Titanic
NOTE: This video was re-edited multiple times and this final edit leaves a 30-second blank screen at the end unintentionally. I apologize for any inconvenience. Please leave bishop fist bumps in the comments to show there's no hard feelings. :)
I'm going to knife you between your fingers...aaaaahhhhh not me man!
Alien theory has described editing this video as 40 miles of bad road.
its the POV from the tunnel
DAMNIT When Alien showed up i bloody jumped lol
Your content is great. Thank you for all the effort you put into it! 🙂
Michael Biehn's reaction & his hug given to Henriksen is priceless. He had all his reasons to hate A3.
Did you ever listen to the Alien 3 audio drama? It was totally rewritten and brought back Michael and Lance as Hicks and Bishop.
@@BerryNiceToMeetYou - Never came across it.
@@750kv8 it's very good. There are 4 really good Alien audio drama's. Aside from Alien 3 You also have River of Pain which is set on Hadleys Hope when the Aliens take over, before Ripley and the Marines arrive.
There is also a 2 part series. The first is Out Of The Shadows, which features Ripley (it's a woman called Laurel Lefkow who actually sounds like Sigourney Weaver in parts) and is set between Alien and Aliens, it' sreally well done, especially how they fit it into the lore between the 2 films. The second is Sea of Sorrows and features a descendant of Ripley.
The Bishop tunnel scene is terrifying ;I met a Vietnam veteran,He was a tunnel rat; they had to crawl into the tunnels created by the Vietnamese and clear them out , He carried only a flashlight and a side arm.
"Maybe they're demoralized" I bust out laughing every time Hudson says that.
Wait, was it Hudson or hicks?
@@TheKwod Hudson sir... He's Hicks
I found that the interesting part of the Hudson character is that he doesn’t see the Aliens as intelligent throughout the film. It’s well proven in the film that he’s ignorant to the fact they are purely instinctual and driven based on reproducing and reproducing alone, and have inherited knowledge genetically passed down.
- it’s those factors that make them so relentless, which is primarily why the films work. It’s similar to Jaws, when a Shark has a primary goal to eat and can come and go without too much in the way of resistance. It’s THAT ‘borrowed’ concept that also makes the Alien franchise (on a primary level)
@@sickofitall8486 What is it Private?
@LaseRamon How do I get out of this chicken-shit outfit?
Never knew the second ship was Smart Ass. That’s great learning something years later, thanks.
i had the same reaction. i think we are both smart asses. we are certainly both mgtow's.
Shit! go buy yourself a lottery ticket because ghost is my favorite band. Checke them out!
And "Smart Ass" saved their Ass in the end.
GYOW lads
I’ve been trying to find out the name of the ship that brought bishop II at the end of A3 after the Sulaco crashed. Any one know?
RIP Bill Paxton, so many good moments in this movie. "I'm Hudson, sir, he's Hicks"
Bishop : I'm afraid I have some bad news.
Private Hudson : Well, that's a switch.
“Hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man?”
“No. Have you?”
Game over man. Game over🥺
How do I get outta of this chicken shit outfit lmao.
“I’m ready, man, check it out. I am the *ultimate* badass! State of the badass art! You do not wanna fuck with me. Check it out! Hey Ripley, don't worry. Me and my squad of ultimate badasses will protect you! Check it out! Independently targeting particle beam phalanx. Vwap! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phased plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, we got sonic electronic ball breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks...” RIP Bill Paxton, The Ultimate Badass
I always thought Bishop being safe in the pipe was an extension of the plotpoint of Newt surviving in the air ducts. Some places are just too small for an xenomorph.
Exactly. There were only so many colonists. There doesn't have to be a xenomorph _everywhere_
We're in the pipe 5 X 5
Who had to look that up to see what it meant? I did.
Don't know if you're making a Titanfall reference but I'm gonna assume that you did because that will help me sleep tonight
Ferro was a hottie.
XCOM 2 anyone?
@@StoopVital more like titanfall (and starcraft before it) was making an Aliens reference. It's in the drop scene
Michael Biehn hugging Lance Henriksen made my day
The first bump was the shit
@@lunafrenz8278 Yeah, sums up how a lot of them were pissed off about Alien 3, especially the ones who survived the movie and were killed off at the start.
@@LandersWorkshop Biehn got paid more for Alien 3 than for Aliens.
I met Michael biehn.
@@garygood6804 Me too, at a Dragon*Con years and years ago. Very cool guy.
Hudson's got loads of wicked lines, "stop you're grinnin n drop you're linen" is definitely one of them!
"I say we grease this rat fck sonofabitch right now," is a personal favorite of mine. 😂
I've seen Aliens more times than I can remember. I owned the VHS tape, when it first came out.
I've seen all of the different edits, and not once did I ever see a scene with Bishop being attacked in the tunnel.
However, the TV edit was the very first time I saw the sentry guns scene. This was WAY before DVD was around, and at that point, I had watched my VHS copy at least 50 times! That scene was never in any VHS copy I had ever seen.
The sentry scene adds much more intensity to the film as a whole.
Yeah, that scene was amazing. A shame it was cut. I remember seeing it as a kid, and being psyched to see the scene again and never seeing it in the movie. I thought I was going crazy - that I had imagined the turret part!
That scene was integral. They knew the sentry guns were empty with the exception of the one with 10 bullets remaining. They were sitting ducks.
Hicks: Next time they walk right up and knock...
Ripley: Yeah, but they don’t know that...
It created a whole new fear and tension. The hoping that there wouldn’t be another swarm on the tunnels, hearing them at the pressure door was scary enough after the first wave.
I can’t believe the studio made Cameron cut that scene for pacing purposes.
@@tarantulagirl exactly!
The sentry gun scene was in the VHS copy I had. It was the full Director's Cut.
@@tarantulagirl I hear you! Though, I've never heard/read anything exactly, but Fox may not have made him specifically cut that scene (or any scene, for that matter), they probably just told him to reduce it to a certain run time, since I've always understood that his original cut was deemed "too long." So, he probably just did the best he could without butchering it too badly.
The aliens would ignore me, being synthetic. Yeah tell that to the queen mate!
Epic response only some will get what you mean wink wink mate..
Exactly what I was thinking when he said that...
That's right... She tore him in two.....
She was aiming for Ripley...f*$%ing jet lag :)
@@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 it's ok you don't have to tell me what someone meant or what to believe.. Again there are people who understand an then there are people like you. Who name call out of frustration 😆.
That jumpscare when the Alien popped its jaw through! I just shit myself! 🤛
Don't worry. In space, no one can hear or smell that you shit yourself.
Cool.
Same. Thankfully, I was sitting on the toilet when it happened.
gonna say same thing. im tired and watching this and BA#M i jumped, maybe music did it.
Etheric Desktops yeah it was the music that did me. I was sat in lamp light and the hall landing was dark so I had the wiggins anyway! I was tired and didn’t expect it!
I simply cannot get over how much Ripley went through to get Newt off that planet and into safety and what an amazing dynamic James Cameron created - a little family unit consisting of Hicks, Ripley and Newt, who we all really cared about, just for David Fincher to tear it all down in the opening of Alien 3. I wish Neil Blomkamp Alien 5 had been made instead.
to be fair David was working with what he was given. That script was already far off the rails.
@@trailersic I was about to say.. With a little research, you'll know that the studio interfered with David's vision and never gave him full control over it because his original idea is pretty sick.
The Dark Horse comics do it some justice, though they're also kinda suffering from crackhead fandom at times.
Why did they kill Newt and Hicks ?
I just assumed the company didn't want to pay for their actors salaries.
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@@anathardayaldar Honestly I've always wondered? I could swear I read it was the way the development hell of Alien 3 screwed with everything more than any pay issues, but that might be Mandela Effect memory.
They mostly cut out the best bits mostly 😂
@Rob O it says mostly can also mean ON THE WHOLE or FOR THE MOST PART .
but Imagine newt saying in the film ALIENS on the whole they come out for the most part It would’ve sounded pretty crappy 😂 .
The actress who played newt is online somewhere talking about that line she hates it now . everyone takes the Mickey out of her even now that she’s an adult .
But I think that line isn’t so bad you don’t expect a kid To have a perfect vocabulary and she didn’t write it anyway 👋🏻
That jump-scare that suddenly barged into your narration scared the begeezus out of me! Nice one! :)
" that's a lovely pet you have there Bishop."
Bishop : "Magnificent isn't it ?!"
IMHO I believe that Wayland Yutani knew of the Xenomorph and this is speculation, realized the only way they could study the Xenomorph was with a synthetic.
As weird as it sounds it makes sense because it seems the Xenomorph has either some form of enhanced vision or a form of telepathy and can detect organic from artificial. Perhaps a synthetic does not have the same brain wave patterns as an organic and thus the Xenomorph doesn't detect them or read hostility or fear as they can "lock" onto it.
If anything this might be the reason in addition to use during FTL travel that synthetics were created. They needed a way to study this life form and humans or anyone else would be torn to shreads.
Edit: For context to this speculation, refer to Alien or Prometheus and refer to the "David and Ash" series and how they descended into a hatred of organic life. David by what the Engineer did and more importantly Ash who had been programmed with "If extraterrestrial life is discovered, all other considerations will be rescinded".
Crew (and anyone else) expendable.
@@deathstrike Especially if it's Arcturian, baby.
The most terrifying thing I could imagine is that you get to the end, and it's BLOCKED, and you're exhausted. You'd be DOOMED! AHHHH!
it was genius to add bishop as a hero in the end. the tension from the original movie was felt in the sequel.
I think the aliens were way to big to fit into the pipe bishop was in..
Facehuggers on the other hand...
I thought of this before and came up with the theory that maybe they are capable of something that Roaches do IRL called "lateral folding" where they can compress their bodies to fit into tight spaces. Don't ask my why I even know this fact lol.
Ro Jaws yeah but facehuggers would need an egg near by. I don’t think that big old mama alien would fit.
@@lemurianlightbringer8071 Good idea, but the difference is, the alien exoskeleton is a lot more rigid and is lacking the chitin-segmentation a cockroach posses. Also parts like head alone are already too big to fit into the pipe.
I think a alien juvenile, who has not fully matured and maybe did not have a fully hardened carapace yet, would made a lot of sense and would made a good addition.
@Planet Purgatory "You secure that shit Hudson" Get it right HAHAHA :D
Sentry gun scene was included on TV broadcasts back in the day. 100%
Not only did sentry guns show up on tv back in the day- so was this from hicks foretelling the sentry guns. Hicks indicates their remaining inventory of weapons, lying on a table.
HICKS
This is all we could salvage. We've
got four pulse-rifles with about
fifty rounds each. Not so good.
About fifteen M-40 grenades and
two flame throwers less than
half full...one damaged. And
We've got four of these
robot-sentry units with scanners
and display intact.
He opens one of the scorched cases, revealing a
high-tech servo-actuated machine gun with optical
sensing equipment, packed in foam.
Yes this is why I felt like I saw the “sentry gun scene” in the past but never saw it again in the video version till it was restored.
Yes, I saw that broadcast too.
I seen it too
yes sir
Hands up if you’re still watching this in 2020 🙋🏼♀️
🙋♂️ and always.
Watched this a couple nights ago
@Alex Watson I AM CZcams at this point.
Watched this 2 hours ago.
To the day I day! But because I'm immortal, I will watch it forever 😉
"A bolder model was required to study these creatures." Instant David chills
I almost dropped my soup that I was eating, when that alien jumped out at bishop in the tunnel. You got me!😳
Robert LaFlure it got me too, lol
That noise too! Still gets me, 35 years later! @_@
I love when it shows him turning around, even if it’s a shot from another part of the movie. that sequence was well edited :)
Whether this was shot or not, I assume it was cut because seeing an alien pass on attacking a character - synthetic or not - would make the aliens seem a little less threatening to the audience. It would also kill any suspense in Bishop’s journey if we learned he wasn’t in any real danger. It’s more suspenseful to wonder if an alien would attack him if he encountered one, so the question was avoided, (at least until he was physically standing in the queen’s way at the end).
Anyway, great video as usual! I hadn’t heard about this scene.
could be argued that the alien wouldnt have seem him even if he was a human
Going into that pipe would be a big NOPE for me. Genius to add it for a little extra for the claustrophobics.
Thanks for all the research on this. Also, good work looping and stretching the small amount of Bishop tunnel footage available to fit your video. Finally, thanks for the heads-up on and link to that Q&A!
I've seen the full sentry guns scene once on television...just once in all the times that Aliens has been shown on a variety of different channels over all these many years. I always wondered why it was never included again. Love that scene.
Yep, we had the 80s TV version with the sentry guns recorded on VHS, that was the one we grew up on. Eventually saw the "real" version and only then found out how lucky we had been!
Love how the scene is recreated via minor editing here?!, with a little more touch ups you could practically recreate the Alien meeting Bishop in the tunnel scene. Well done Alien theory!
You are by far the best narrator in youtube. And absolutely perfect for this franchise and genre.
I was too young back in the days when I watched it. I was scared shit less. Even today this movie gives me goosebumps. Absolute masterpiece.
i just cant cope watching it, let alone climb in or crawl in that TUUUUUBE!
Aye, the tunnel scenes used to really fuck with my claustrophobia. Still does in fact.
I know, i reckon Lance Henriksen was happy as you know what? when James Cameron yelled cut for his scene to be over, cos that tube looks to be super claustrophobic as anything. *Cameron:* (finishing filming the scene) O.K. and cut, we got it, hey how ya doing in there Lance? *Lance Henriksen:* "Jim get me out of this f --king thing will ya!"
I wouldn’t be able to do it either, so claustrophobic! I suppose that’s the real reason why Bishop did it, maybe the others would know how to patch through to the ship but he was the only one who could crawl through a tiny tunnel for god knows how long because he’s an android. No claustrophobia there lol
Carl HIRST in the eighth grade, some friends and I found this tunnel that went under the freeway… An 8 Lane Freeway and we were all skinny as heck, but halfway through, tunnel must have shrunk a tiny bit, a fraction even, and I being very skinny, I unfortunately have very broad shoulders.
I got stuck in that mother… Started panicking and trying to push myself scraping my elbows and knees to they’re all bloody, not even caring, and mind you, I couldn’t turn around obviously so I had to keep going!
this proves impossible so I started screaming and tell my friend to call the cops, all the big rigs driving over the freeway a few feet on top of us, the whole thing rumbling and very loud…!!!
eventually, I settle down, knowing that I had to because I didn’t want the damn fire department pulling me out or cutting up the road or whatever… So I started doing this little butt wiggle jump thing , going back the way I came. with each little but bounce jump maneuver, I was probably making like an eighth of an inch each time-LOL
I think it took me like 45 minutes or something to get back out, which took me like 10 minutes to get there in the middle of the tube.
I would gladly rather climb in a slightly larger tube with an alien in it then do that again! and I’m dead serious!
I agree. I could have faced the alien queen much easier than I could have crawled into the pipe.
Bishop was one of my favorite characters from Alien II! Thank you for this video Alien Theory!
The tunnel scene always gives me anxiety, I'm not a claustrophobic, but damn, that tunnel is a whole new level 😂
Me too! I was watching Aliens again the other night, and thinking about how insanely claustrophobic that tunnel scene really is....😬
That’s so weird how I remember watching a scene where he encounters the alien in the tube but no such scene exists. It’s the Mandella effect in reverse.
Dude! Same here! I was reading the comments to see if anyone else had the same experience. I saw this movie when I was 9 or 10 and I CLEARLY remember a scene where a facehugger comes down the tunnel onto his face. I remember it because it was the most terrifying scene in the whole movie. It's like they filmed it in an alternate universe!
Funny how memory works like that. I forget the movie, but someone was sure they'd seen a scene that doesn't exist, and refuses to believe they read the novelization or a movie or fan magazine like _Starlog_ (which is where I saw shots of a pirate dance number in _Hook_ that was deleted because Spielberg was afraid of releasing a musical).
Bishop, you did alright.
I did?
@Stripey Arse (shhhhhhh....) UUUGHHHHH!!! D:
Not bad......for a human.
It's Pishop not Bishop lol. Sgt Whipley said that.
@@mikimiyazaki man your right!. And Mewt she's just annoying eh? Scudson a not bad. But Shicks is a badass lol
The scene would have been a quick and possibly cheap jump scare. The xenomorph had been proven to be attracted or at least sensitive to sound, so the narrow pipe could have been signaling to one of the xenomorphs on the way to the marines.
But in retrospect, the sheer claustrophobia of the scene itself was enough to keep up the edge. With things as dire as they were at the time of the film, it was probably more pragmatic to the setting to just keep going with the temporary moment of rest they had, and with the bonding over the pulse rifle. Which, in its own way, gave a mild sense of renewed optimism in that Ripley had taken another step in standing against the alien enemy.
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I always like the line "watch your fingers " 3:19
That's such a classic character moment; it's the little things that really make it all work so beautifully.
Me too. Its seems so human, but at the same time i realised it was probably in his programming to speak/ behave in such a way . Considering myself in the same self sacrificing situation i doubt i'd have such concern for those i left in relative safety, but then i'm only human.
He cannot be allowed, by omissions or inactions, to become harmful to humans.
Bishop so nice
It's a nice touch.
Damn good retelling of the Bishop tunnel scene. Keep up the great work, love your channel!
That Q & A with the Aliens actors must have been lots of fun......rest in peace Bill Paxton.......amazing cast
I don't know if this was answered in the novelization, but when I watched this way back in 1986, I always wondered why did the entire crew have to go down to the surface? Why didn't they have someone manning the Sulaco and have a team of reinforcements on the starship? The ground team would have radioed their intention to seek the missing colonists at the atmosphere processor and then check in at regular intervals. In case of a loss of communication, the back up team would be able to assist and/or evacuate the ground team.
Oh man, that's a can of worms. Ultimately it makes for a better story. Having to remote pilot the dropship which was unheard-of tech back in the 80s.
But on your line of thought. Here's a few more. Why hypersleep at all if they could be rescued in just 17 days? The colonists had PDTs implanted, but they didn't transmit any life signs and could not just be located automatically, they had to do this process manually in a digital map. Why did Ripley so quickly write of the marines as unsaveable after the first attack but insisted Newt could be saved? Why wouldn't Bishop be used in combat with his superhuman abilities? How did Ripleys pod not possibly have a transponder? Why did the company not know anything about the Aliens, wasn't Ash working with Mother sending info to the company? I've seen the movie probably 30 times, I could go on and on.
Well this whole rescue operation was Burke's idea and his secret plan was to bring back an alien to earth. Perhaps he just wanted the least people involved to make it work. Just one platoon with no back up team.
@@JimP226 The answer is very simple, movies are not supposed to reflect real life, they are dream factories. When you watch a movie you want to be sucked into another world, not watch a breaking news, so whatever works to scare us, bring tears to our eyes, keep us in suspense, let us forget about the reality will be used, even if it's unrealistic in our world.
@@JimP226 didn't they say it would be 17 days until they were declared overdue? That doesn't mean a rescue ship would necessarily reach them in 17 days. That's just the period of time that has to pass without any communication before they acknowledge something has gone wrong and send out a rescue.
@@EricaEchos Yes. It wasn't rescued in 17 days. It was 17 days before they were declared overdue. God only knows how many more days they'd wait before declaring them MIA and sending a mission to look for them and who knows how long it would take to get a rescue mission to their last known location. Could take weeks.
If you can find the Alan Dean Foster novelizations, they're well worth a read. They contain several scenes that never made it into the movies.
You seriously cannot get a more in depth and informative channel about the aliens universe than this channel. Just when I think I know all about the Alien world, this channel teaches me something new. Great insightful video as always. 👍
Cutting out the sentry guns was a mistake. So was Ripley's elderly daughter(which would explain how time slows down in space but on Earth it moves faster).
That's not the explanation.
Ripley was in suspended animation for 57 years. Her daughter got old and died while Ripley slept.
Time dilation/contraction only has a significant effect at near light-speeds.
@@gohumberto And how fast were they going in space again?
@@bryguysays2948 I don't know the speed but not fast enough to make any difference.
Ripley's daughter died aged 66. She was 10 when Ripley left. Ripley was gone 57 years and her daughter died a couple of years before Ripley's return.
But, even simpler, Ripley promised her daughter she'd be back for her 11th birthday.
Travelling at speeds that make a noticeable difference to (relative) human aging is the stuff of very silly Sci-fi, because it can never happen (even less so if you're towing millions of tons of cargo, like the Nostromo).
Actually, thats the wrong way around. Time is slowed by gravity.
@@gohumberto Indeed, one of my problems, originally leaving the theater was, how do you run a trading economy at the pace of building a cathedral? The resources you extract might be obsolete junk by the time the ship returns.
This was very entertaining! I'm a huge fan of the first two movies and this channel is very informative.
7:50, I have the original novelization of Alien, with Alan Dean Foster's autograph!! I got it at a Bookman's 3 years ago.
We know now that the aliens do not recognize synthetics as they cannot be incubators. While they might investigate a commotion, they would not attack a synthetic any more than a vacuum cleaner, unless it became a direct threat. From what I've learned from reading all the novels, anyway...
In Alien Isolation it was the same.
@PhreshFunk Only to get to Ripley and Newt.
@@the-trustees He wasn't a direct threat though, he was just standing there. The Queen must have assessed him as a potential obstacle to her attack on Ripley. The rules are different for a Queen though, unlike an autonomous drone they don't operate solely on instinct and have at least human level intelligence so they can actually analyse a situation before choosing an appropriate response.
Do the drones ignore synthetics purely because they can't be a host though? Drones have attacked humans many times with no intention of using them for procreation. Could their sensory organs perceive synthetics differently to biological organisms? I assume synthetics have no nutritional value to a xeno either.
@@Lieutenant_Scrotes From all the novels, I maintain that the aliens rely solely on telepathy (non-verbal) and possibly pheromones. I actually think that the queen would not have speared Bishop in the reality of the universe. I think it would have merely swiped him away as an impediment to her getting to Ripley, but it wouldn't have made such an iconic moment. I dont think that the universe was described well enough when JC made Aliens so he went with the best set piece he could and that my take on this was not possible until after many of the novels had been written and gave the universe most of its rules.
@@Redmanticore I think it was the WAY the queen did it. The attack seemed specifically designed for a living target. But if the queen just swept him away, it wouldnt have been the iconic scene it became. Again though, Aliens was made long before any concept of the universe or its rules existed. And even though it may bend the rules, it will always be awesome to watch.
"Maybe we got them demoralised!"
I first saw the film in 1986, in Portugal. The scene with Bishop in the tunnel is real. As I remeber it is a rather long scene, very tense. It shows Bishop crawling through the tunnel for a long while. Suddenly he stops. For long long seconds we only see his face, lighted by the lamp he's carrying. Then, an alien sting pierces the tunnel in front of him, but misses him. The sting goes away, Bishop waits a while, and carries on crawling. I couldn't invent such a scene. In fact, I went to the movies with some friends, and we discussed this scene after.
The concept of the Xenomorphs *not* reacting to Synths because they didn't sense them as living creatures, or even as a threat, is an awesome concept.
I think the only other time I ever saw something like that was Alien: Isolation.
Great video!
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This is my favorite movie of all time. I could watch it from any part. Terminator, Predator, The Thing, Die Hard, Transformers The Animated Movie, Krull and Legend made the 80's awesome.
Private Hudson : We're all gonna die, man.
Billy (in Predator) There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die.
Happy 35th Year Anniversary Aliens 🎂 Original Release: July 18th 1986
Starting off with an interesting bang for the new year. Looking forward to another eventful and interesting year on this channel!
I saw _Aliens_ the night it premiered and, being claustrophobic, just the idea of the crawl down that narrow pipe (without an alien) creeped me the hell out!
If it had been filmed I think Henriksen would have definitely mentioned so when answering that fan question. So I think the narrator’s answer is the correct one...
I love that certain people swear they saw that in a television broadcast. That sort of thing - “the Mandela effect” - exists for lots of films. You can trust that 99% of those accounts are mistaken memories, but are still interesting to wonder about.
Unless you believe in multiverse theory anyway.
David Hance ....i swear i saw the robbery scene in reservoir dogs, but, alas, it doesn't exist. *Reality Acceptance😩
Saun Krystian lol, perfect example!
E.g. I swear I saw Optimus Prime crumble in to dust when he died in the 1985 movie, and apparently so do others.
But don't put all of these sightings down to Fosters' novels. There is a scene from Alien that I swore I saw (& according to a former projectionist my city used to be a test market for horror films, so who knows) that wasn't supposed to be in the theatrical release. And people keep saying I must have read it in the novelization. The only problem with that is I never read the novelization.
No matter how many times I watch Aliens, whenever it gets to the scene of Bishop shimmying down the conduit makes my slight claustrophobia spin up.
I have to raise my arms in order to feel some sort of relief!
Yep, the first two Alien movies make the Top 10 all-time Sci Fi list.
Musical score adds so much to watching a film. It works best when you don't notice the music per se, it just fills your senses and helps to establish the emotion of a scene. Now, after you watch a film multiple times and are no longer hung in suspension about what's going to happen, you do notice things, like the music. The scene when Ripley takes control of the vehicle and goes crashing into the station to rescue the trapped Marines...that music is awesome! Gets your heart racing! Absolutely perfect score to establish the intense emotion of the scene. It's heroic yet you are brought to the edge of your seat, nail biting, with the question: does Ripley rescue the trapped Marines? You think she will, you hope she will...but....
James Horner & Jerry Goldsmith are also a big reason why Alien & Aliens are so great.
It’s crazy to think Horner only had 11 days to write the score for Aliens.
Your voice is the love child of agent smith and capt kirk
I find the way Lance reacted at the Q&A very interesting... I'm assuming they did shoot it and it isn't the first time he's been asked about this scene, else I reckon he would have said something like "Ah, the conduit scene again - we never shot it!". Because he just passed off the "was it filmed" part of the question, and simply went on to explain how the aliens react to a synthetic, I'm gonna assume it was indeed shot.
You know, you have the perfect voice for the Aliens franchise. Your intonation, your voice fits terribly well to version of humanity we see in Alien universe and realities of that universe.
Dude I love your info and explanations on all this stuff! Very cool
I think a scene like that wouldn't be bad. Really, James Cameron's additional scenes make it almost a different story to me. Me and my father watched the Special Edition way back in the day. The scene where she found out about her dead daughter and how insensitive Burke was REALLY helped us see Ripley's anger and irritation. Before hand, I was like, "At what point did she go from insecure, unsure but forced to be aggressive Ripley to Tough, Rough, Take Crap From No One Ripley?" The idea of her only family dead and having nothing else certainly would give a person the "I got nothing to lose, so don't FUCK with me" type attitude she developed. It also made her bonding with Newt so much more meaningful. That scene alone seemed to really help Ripley's character evolution in that it EXPLAINED it rather than just dumped it. The part with the Sentry Guns made more sense because I HAD to believe they'd have recovered something from the wreckage. It showed how Hicks was a better leader and how they kept them at bay. That it was more than just sealed doors, they had to manuever around a defensive line of turrets. The normal version was a GREAT movie, action-packed, terrifying and suspenseful, with a great cast and music. But the additional scenes? They really just tie everything up PERFECTLY. I love it. So a little extra of Bishop actually running into one would actually make sense. Doesn't take away, only adds and makes it a little bit more. But that's just my opinion.
Am I the only one who got sad seeing Bill Paxton bro hugging Lance?
Timothy Jones - I thought that was Michael Biehn.
It was Michael Biehn
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Are you the only one who suffered a severe stroke and mistook Michael Biehn as Bill Paxton? Yes, yes you're the only one...
@@heathkaarvakian7263 Gorman thought he was Hicks...
A day in the core is like a day on the farm, every meal a banquet, every formation a parade, I love the core!
That Michael Biehns shout "Fuck alien 3!" gave me immence joy! Damn that cast and writing on aliens was superb. I can only dream of Neil Blomkamp sweeping alien 3 and 4 under the rug with 5. Same to new monstrosities of Ridley Scott.
Kudos my friend, you really got me with that jump scare. Not much gets to me these days.
A.T.
What up brotha,
Every time Aliens is on tv and I realize it’s the theatrical version, it bums me out. It’s that moment I always get up and throw the Directors Cut on Blue-ray on. Thanks for the vid, looking forward to the next Accounts of the Earth War.
Thanks for your great video & hard work!!!
I've seen different cuts of the movie of the years, especially on TV where I first saw the Sentry guns and learned about Ripley's daughter. I can say that I have never even heard of the scene with Bishop running into an Alien while crawling through that pipe but I would have loved to have seen it. It sounds like it would have been a great jump scare!
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This scene is definitely a strong case for the Mandela effect....
i swear i remember seeing the scene somewhere
Ditto. I read the book. It must so good I thought it was in the movie on some version I saw.
This is quite an interesting video to run into, because when I saw Alien 2 as a kid I could swear that the scene in the tunnels included a shot with Bishop running into a xenomorph, however upon re-watching the movie as an adult on the anthology re-release I noticed that there was no such scene!
I was quite surprised frankly, tho, I just accepted my memory was wrong, since a lot of the movie stroke me very different as a kid.
Me too
I have a VERY clear memory of a facehugger coming down the pipe and attacking his face when I was a kid. I can't believe it doesn't exist.
Okay, I admit it, you got me with the jump scare.
Ro Jaws lol, glad I wasn’t the only one.
You just gave me a childhood flashback with your profile name, Ro-Jaws and Hammerstein, I was in my 30s before I realised that was a play on words of Rodgers and Hammerstein, not quite sure how Mek-Quake fitted into that joke, but anyway, I was a big 2000ad fan back in the day, it was my first foray into sci-fi lit that became a lifetime obsession, great stuff, thanks for the reminder.
@@Lumibear. Yeah I hear that a lot. I actually didn't know about Ro-Jaws and the ABC Warriors when I first chose this name. Ro-Jaws was a nickname I earned in school. Eventually I learned about the charmingly rude and anti-authoritarian comic book character and decided that he would be great for a avatar.
Ro Jaws now that’s weird, I’m guessing you were chatty at school huh? Somebody must have been a fan.
I always wondered why the scene where Bishop has to crawl in the tunnel was so short in the movie, and no more importance was given to it, knowing that the success of Bishop is really important for the survival of all.
IKR? I was hoping there would have been some scenes of Bishop exiting the tunnel and sneaking his way to the uplink tower, instead of just cutting to him being there.
Not much you can do with endless crawling through a tiny tunnel to make it exciting to watch.
@@garibaldi54they couldve built up dramatic part of hearing a noise/skritching/scratching ahead coming at him and what shows up is some kind of version of a rat from that planet that isnt dangerous and it stands up and squeaks at him and jumps over on his back and runs on down the pipe.
@@d.aardent9382 They had to cut a lot of the movie already due to it running over time.
This is well done! Kudos to the you tuber that uploaded this video! Well done my friend
Well made video man. Much appreciated.
Isn't it interesting that Bishop looks at his watch, rather than calling on an internal BIOS Clock, to keep track of time?
thedungeondelver you’re not wrong. But it was the 80s
yes, but make something up. (watch referenced human time)
Mannerisms meant to make him more human.
Mabye curiousity to check if his 'bios clock' and the watch would remain in sync.
All androids are made to feel as close as human to the team. Apparently, simple thing as to looking at your watch is very human indeed. Like eating and drinking with the team even tho they have no need to.