Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore - Angry Review
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AngryJoe, Big Time Harry Potter Fan OtherJoe & Alex Review the 3rd Fantastic Beasts film, The Secrets of Dumbledore, is this worth going out to see in theaters? Our thoughts!
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My wife apologized for taking me to see this.
😂😂😂reading this made me laugh so hard thank you
You have a good wife🗿
Man that made me laugh, thanks
You know it’s bad when your wife apologises over something 😂
she cares for you
This is like a Pokemon movie where the main character barely ever uses his Pokemons.
Great analogy imo
at last pokemon movie still revolving around pokemon and Ash's Pikachu still there for Ash, not suddenly become politics whatever is this movie about
And that is an unforgiveable sin. If you posses a bunch of fantasy creatures in your film, then you had damnwell better use them. Such a waste of potential.
Yooo if you liked this video you should check out my review for fantastic beasts BRAH
So like the Detective Pikachu movie with a stupid plot and a human main character who didn't even own a Pokémon?
"They could have done it without him" is absolutely the mantra of this entire trilogy. Newt is basically a non-entity who is there for some reason.
Newt is a Beast.
@@alexl.4362 No no, he *finds* beasts, there's a difference! He himself is kinda lame.
@@alexl.4362 it would be cool if he was tbh
Audience surrogate
I never liked Newt’s character after the 1st film. 🤔
Alex is such an awesome asset for AngryJoeShow.
He doesn't mindlessly mumble and ramble in the background and gives his raw opinion that isn't influence by others around him.
He knows what we want to say and delivers it without BS.
isn't influenced*
English is hard, amirite?
@@BennyGoId Am I right?*
You're right. English is hard.
@@ranmo2549 ur rite elngrish easynt*
no is ez
@@ranmo2549 you got him mate, you got him.
@@ranmo2549 Well I dont think so, I speak english really well. I think its the easiest language, tbh
Ive noticed it was never about Newt from the first movie. They should have named this series something else entirely. I was really excited at first thinking it was going to be alllllll about the magic animals in the world but it quickly turned into the backstory of Dumbledore and the wizarding worlds politics like you guys mentioned.
It is titled for a reason "Secrets of Dumbledore" - this movie was about Dumbledore.
The previous one was Crimes of Grindelwald.
It is Fantastic Beasts because each movie contains magical beasts and creatures.
If they treated this franchise as a vehicle to talk about poaching, animal cruelty and alla that this would be an amazing series of movies. They could even still have had the grindlewald angle in there but we'd actually have Fantastic Beasts AND LEARNING WHERE TO FIND THEM! So much potential to dive into creatures of myth and legend from other cultures wasted for a lazily written, heart-broken love story.
@@HideorEscape like i was expecting the movie(s) to be about how he came about writing the text book which is present in the harry potter movies. but you dont even see him thinking about a book at all throughout the course of the 3 movies. you see his lab but thats about it.
@@HideorEscape if thats the case by that logic all the harry potter movies are Fantastic Beasts: Harry Potter [insert sequel]
@@rramos7488
This movie only showed like 3 animals so the entire Harry Potter series could be called that.
The general consensus is that Fantastic Beasts should have been about Newt, doing his own magical beast related adventures (imagine Indiana Jones, but instead of hunting down artifacts you are looking for rare creatures), and the Dumbledore Vs Grindlewald story should have been it's own separate trilogy unrelated to Newt. Because mixing the 2 ideas was always a weird choice that has clearly made both of the stories less interesting. Instead of creating a singular series, they should have made an Wizarding Cinematic Universe.
get this person a job
The problem is JK is in charge of writing the movie script, and even after 2 films, she still treats it like she is writing a novel. She still doesn't get it that it's a film not a book.
This is what they do with the DC movies too. They put THREE plots into one movie and it just gets lost. ☹️
Rowling tricked all of us. The audience, the producers, the studio. She was always planning to sneak in this dumbledore thing.
I agree so much with this statement
Probably addressed but couple things: You do not have to kill someone to get control of the elder wand. Examples: Malfoy got control by disarming Dumbledore and then Harry got control by disarming Malfoy (Even though Malfoy never even held the wand) You can get control even if the wand is nowhere in proximity or being used.
Second, Dumbledore does not kill Grindewald. Grindewald is in the original Harry Potter movies as an old man in prison. Voldemort goes to visit him to ask about the wand. That's how he learns that Dumbledore owns it.
100% and these facts only show us just how boring and straightforward these last 2 films will be 😂
Shouldn’t Tina be master of the elder wand then? She disarmed grindelwald/graves at the end of the first movie
@@JustJoe10 No necessarily. The elder wand can change on its own will. Just because you disarm someone doesn't mean it has to change...it might choose to change it allegiance. It might have though... you can still use it even if you aren't the owner, it just resists you.
@@AudioWarcraft Everything you are explaining is the background of why so many people have lost faith in this magic system. The lack of foreshadowing in Books 1-6 also greatly disappointed me.
Like Joe says above "The magic somehow always has a (*) attached."
Was about to write these things, thanks 🙏
I actually liked the first Fantastic Beasts. I even told my friend it felt like a magical Jurassic Park for me. It's a shame they dropped that concept immediately after the 2nd movie. It feels like they just add the occasional fantastic beast here and there just to say "See! It's still Fantastic Beasts!" Just a damned shame.
After how Warner treated JD, I'd say its failure is more than well deserved.
Funny thing is mads mikkelsen’s performance is one of the only good parts
How they treated Henry cavil superman, Ray fisher cyborg.
@@cementbox4430
Not everything is about your Snyder Cult, dude.
One thing is for sure Discovery Upper Management needs to sweep WB house clean cause they have been awful decision makers and greenlight horrible projects most of the time.
Depp isn't some victim genius.
It’s incredible how they keep giving David Yates more Harry Potter movies and he consistently flops, over and over , and over again. Does he know something about the producers?
David yates films are sooooo ugly looking. Just because the story is dark doesn’t mean the film has to have no color. There’s plenty of dark films with great color.
Order of the Phoenix was good, I thought
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 that is the only decent film he made. And then he destroyed the whole franchise. I remember watching half blood prince and thinking why the fuck is it so dark , I raised the brightness of my tv but still it was the same. His movies are literally fucking dark , there are weird awkward silences and the tone is bad. I am wondering when are they going to fire this guy.
He basically agreed to do whatever JK wrote without question and she wanted someone she’d control
"Average Beasts and Dont Go Looking for Them" XD Damn alex summed it up real nice
"It's not for children and it's not for people with BRAINS!" - Alex, quote of the year
When i read about the duel in the book I’m like THIS IS SO EXCITING THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT MOVIE. But when they finally made it I’m like this is sooooooo boring.
This statement is true for so many things.
I had no idea how much Bambi trauma I was carrying until I saw this film & then these guys brought it up 😲
Usually agree with Alex but this is a bit much…still enjoyed this movie
They should have done a Fantastic Beasts trilogy and a Dumbledore vs Grindelwald trilogy. And alternate between them
exactly an independant dumblore movie sounds interesting
Nah. Fantastic Beast works better as a series. 1 or 2 beasts per 1 episode. It's a classic monster-of-the-week style. They can easily milk that shit for multiple seasons.
Yooo if you liked this video you should check out my review for fantastic beasts BRAH
Stupid idea
Raaaah I DEMAND MORE CONTENT - Consumerist gluttons
The movies could have been like the anime Mushishi. It should have been a trilogy focusing on Newt, his gang, their adventures with fantastical beasts. That could have been so much fun. In a similar tone to Dead Man's Chest. Great action scenes, characters you can get attached to. If they really needed to shoehorn in legacy characters, they could have come up as cameos or supporting characters. Like Dumbledore making an appearance and helping Newt on a quest etc.
I mean the new characters sucked tho
I wanted magical Indiana Jones with a focus on magical animals/poachers, not… this
No. The movies shouldn't exist. Period.
@@imperialspy805 lol agreed
@@lazaroskarmaniolas7410 lol I agreed they just milk it at this point
I would love it if we actually saw other magic schools. The fact we saw the American magical community without seeing Ilvormorny is a waste. Beaubaxton was another school we didn’t get to see despite the fact that the second film took place in France. IMO, Rowling needs to emphasize the Wizarding World and stop using Hogwarts as a crutch to pull on our nostalgia strings, we’ve seen Hogwarts, show us more new things.
Hogwarts is stale and a non factor
She doesn’t show it because she knows it won’t be as interesting. And any criticism will be met with her now trademark “well actually” response where she retconns anything to deflect and defuse the situation.
@@SH1NK1R01 The introduction of Ilvermory and the other magic schools was the highlight of her website and had many HP fans buzzing for a time, I find it disbelieving that anyone would find them not very interesting
@@Lethal_Giggles the problem will be they will show it but not use time on it and it will dissappoint everyone. did you think the french ministry was interesting in the last film? i sure didn't it felt lackluster as if they just had to do something and show something. if they want these new and interesting locations they need to make them needed in terms of the overall plot of the mmovie not just "hey Hogwarts look at that, remember Hogwarts?, oh well moving on with the plot".
and the reason why the French ministry also felt lacluster is because it had no relevance, it was to reveal that Credence was not a Black, but did we need that? did it matter? nope, it was just in the film because "hey you know the Ministry of Magic in Harry Potter? Well France also has a ministry! wooooow, any moving on".
@@mortenlunddk the French Ministry was aesthetically pleasing imo. The reason why it felt lack luster was because of the plot of the movie itself, which, was wholly the issue with the second film, the plot twist was unnecessary and did not have a big pay off. In regards to the schools, Newt is a magi zoologist, in theory he could be reaching out to these schools for further knowledge on magical creatures or asking permission to help extend their curriculum on them.
I like how Alex always sits quietly at the beginning of the reviews, waiting for his turn to say something and then just explodes with his impressions
They never figured out that all we really wanted to see was Newt taking care of his fantastic beasts (and occasionally finding one).
bro im sayyyyinggggg... like i didnt want a prequel lmao i just wanted an adventure in the universe. detached writers
They never figured out we wanted and expected wizard Pokemon
Yooo if you liked this video you should check out my review for fantastic beasts BRAH
RIGHT?!?!
They dropped the ball from the beginning of this phase.
We should have had the Wizarding Americas.
Voodoo, zombies, gris-gris, voodoo dolls, etc.
Sasquatch, Wendigo, Paul Bunyon and Babe, Mothman, Skunk Ape, JACKALOPES, etc.
Medicine men, ghost dance, thunderbird vs feathered serpent, skinwalkers, spirit journeys, etc.
All those options and more, right there waiting.
Good point Yogurt Yodeler
Agreed
An amazing idea, it would have been great to see but I've always had this impression that Rowling is too stuck in her own British culture to care that much about other places. Like, I know the books had ideas and things from other cultures and countries, but whenever she left the British sphere of Hogwarts (ie Beauxbatons and Durmstrang), she dropped the ball.
Yooo if you liked this video you should check out my review for fantastic beasts BRAH
well you see, Joanne hates to research other cultures so instead we get more magical family drama then in the entirety of star wars
They should have left the 1st Fantastic Beasts as a stand-alone film or just make sequels focused solely on Newt and his adventures with Jacob, while doing a separate trilogy that goes into the origins of Dumbledore and Grindelwald's first meeting to their final battle in 1945. Rowling isn't a good scriptwriter. She's a good author but when it comes to doing scriptwriting, she doesn't understand that things need to be done differently.
Is she involved in the scripts? or is it the fault of the movie studios trying to adapt a script out of her original stories? I had assumed it was the studios that messed this up by taking her characters but making their own plots.
If she had a big part of the script writing for this though, oh MAN that sucks.I'd have expected way better.
@@BattleBladeWarrior She is credited for writing the scripts to the two Fantastic Beasts before this one. This movie was written by her and the dude who did almost all of the Harry Potter scripts (minus the 5th movie).
As for if Rowling is completely at fault, I wonder that myself. Yes, she has control over the Harry Potter franchise at Warner Bros. (soon to be Warner Discovery). It was part of the deal to make the Harry Potter movies, that she would never sell the rights to them and that they would be partners in making the films. But the thing is, who knows how much control she truly has. Even in a partnership, corporations can easily take control of something in other ways. While she could easily leave with the movie rights, I believe there might be something in place to keep her from making more films with any other studio for a time.
I could be wrong, these are only rumors I've heard about. She could very well be at fault for how things have turned out. Either way, her scriptwriting isn't as good as her novel writing is.
@@tjjordan4207 That makes sense. Yea, I've heard of several films where they have the creator on board, and then they end up using only 5 - 10% of whatever they wrote, and the rest is re-writes and different direction.
Sort of what happened with justice league, for example. So if they pulled that on Rowling, then I can't really fault her for what happened, but if these last couple films were true to most of her script, then yea, she really missed the ball on those.
If you're going to name the title of your movie after a character, and fantastic beasts, then the movies should center around that main character encountering/using fantastic beasts.
Not just using them as essentially a stand in for the audience. I've heard the Harry Potter novels are really well written, havent heard too much on this particular series. . .
@@BattleBladeWarrior I think it's more believeable that JK is at fault here. She's a novel writer, not a script writer, which is a huge difference. I'd say that JK simply can't get it into her head that it's not the same, and just messes it up that way. That the series is called 'fantastic beasts' but does not revolve around them is actually not so surprising. JK might've gotten just bored of the concept and her excitement for 'another idea' got the better of her. That's why novels can have up to 10 drafts so the author has time and space to clean up after themselves. Scripts don't work like that tho.
@@namelessrv8771 Oh that makes sense. Plus, a novel can have days worth of reading, whereas a movie on average you only have around 2 - 3 hours. So she might be running into issues where she just has way too much she's trying to cram in and its all getting lost when they have to chop it all down to fit that.
Hopefully its a learning experience so the last 2 (or more) will be a little better.
I actually like Newt as a character but this whole series suffers from 'The Hobbit' syndrome. Bilbo and Newt were great and fun when it focused on them, but they became less and less important in the movie series that is named after them.
While that's true, I feel like Bilbo's case was made on purpose. His position as a reclusive Hobbit out of his element made him the perfect candidate to play as the audience surrogate.
Bilbo the protagonist of the whole series was literally knocked unconscious in the final battle because they had nothing to do for him.
@@TomCruz54321 he was knocked out in the book
Can we make Alex facepalming the new epic fail seal of approval?
Yes!
LOL Forreals
Genius idea 😆
Yooo if you liked this video you should check out my review for fantastic beasts BRAH
Dumbledore never kills Grindelwald. Voldy kills him in book 7. You don’t have to kill the owner of the elder wand. You just have to beat them in combat/duel. Come on guys
That's no dumber than what they said nice try fanboy
As someone who has Engrossed themselves in the lore of Harry Potter. The rules with the elder wand are inconsistent at best and fucking dumb use of plot armor and story telling. So I don’t blame them for not knowing that because even JK Rowling seem to have no fucking clue on how the elder want changes hands.
@@redfalcon091 I haven’t even seen the movie and don’t even care too. Just pointing out that they repetitively “guess” how things are gonna end when we already know how things end.
What's the point of making movies tyen
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This trilogy actually confuses me, who is the main character. Is it really Newt?
Chilly
The final duel with Dumbledore and Grendiwald was anti climatic af. They could have done so much more with that. It also reminded me of a Kingdom Heats fight sequence, only lamer.
really looked like a final fantasy or kh boss fight lol
kingdom heats.... gyahahaha.... them disney final fantasy crossovers where there's a lot of heats happening...
Alex's facepalm is all I needed to see. This gonna be good.
true lmao. he is a critical watcher and if he likes it then it's a good movie no doubt
Alex is a bit too woke for my tastes. He supports race mixing and white genocide, sadly.
While I liked it (marginally) more than the last one, all this movie really did was make me realize that I love the first one.
Imagine a more lighthearted series of movies that focus solely on Newt traveling the world and encountering weird creatures. (Maybe to finish his book?)
Sigh... I'm just gonna pretend the first movie never got a sequel.
That makes me think. I wonder why Harry Potter never got a proper tv series. Your idea would be great for series
@@kingrobotnik6950 Hollywood no longer has the writers for it it would just turn to shit like everything else they make today
@@kingrobotnik6950 I've been wondering about that, too. Now obviously the books would be hard to adapt since the actors need to look the right age and all, but I mean they've been calling themselves "Wizarding World" for how long now?
Just off the top of my head, I could imagine a show about Quidditch. The origins, the first world-cup, that sort of thing.
Then again, with how the Halo TV series turned out, maybe we don't want that.
@@_Skorax oof. Don’t remind me about Halo. All the resources they have from all of those games and that’s the best they could come up with. But, yeah maybe do their own thing. Honestly, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a cartoon of it atleast. If they can expand the series with the Fantastical Beasts, something that goes into the world of Harry Potter but with the freedom of animation would look spectacular, ya know, with the right people. An overarching plot, with new spells being learned, new classes to take, new friends, new enemies and maybe some old ones.(lol I sound like a trailer) But after Halo, it might be best to avoid it…
I think you’re right on for the first 3 movies, then introduce the dumbledore bit for the final 4-5 films
Alex strikes me as that one guy that could've been great in the narrative department of any game, movie or TV show... just that they don't want him cuz he'll hurt the team's feelings.
The best kind of Dungeonmaster
Alex is really good at explaining and point out important things👏
You know he’s boiling up a great point of opinion when he’s quite at first and explodes when AJ asks him his what he thinks about something.
SURE
If “muggles” comes from the British term “mug”, and it does, you gotta wonder after watching the wizards in this film who the real muggles are.
Deep.
when I first heard "ugly mug" I thought he was talking about the coffee mug.
"muggles" in the World of Witches and Wizards?
Any human being who wasn't born with the natural ability to conjure magic... Apparently even without the use of a wand too
@@tsohgallik its also a genetic thing bc a mage with "muggle" parents is still considered "muggle blood" and a wizzard born non magic person is considered a "squib"
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I dont even go to the movies anymore, I just watch their reviews with some popcorn knowing that I will 100% be entertained every single time.
Same here. Most movies for the last decade have become so predicable that 80-90% of the time I figured out the plot in the first 15 minutes. So why not save $20-30 bucks and watch the reviews from people that are more entertaining to watch.
@@Hybris51129 then check FRESH or ONE CUT OF THE DEAD for example
Yup. For the past few years Ive just watched older movies and older shows. Everything’s becoming “theme parks” and what I mean by that are visual spectacles. Engaging plot, character development, writing and more that made the best movies and shows great just aren’t around much anymore. Society is collectively getting dumber. The most popular music today has very little to no meaningful lyrics, and media in general is dumbed down and political.
I don’t know how long it’ll take for this “woke” bs to get out of media, because ironically, many people consume media to get away from that bs, not experience it in their place of escapism . Corporations need to stop caring about peoples feelings, and instead tell the stories they want to tell, uninfluenced.
Laughing in bit torrent
Watch Arcane instead
Dumbledore's brother isn't a "new charachter". He was in the books and the movies. He runs the tavern relatively close to the school of Hogwarts that student's often buy butterbeer from. Students like Harry, Ron, and Hermione.
also bails harry out at one point in an emergency
@@pnutz_2 Sure does.
He was a shoehorned character Rowling introduced in the last book as a deus ex machina, so not much better
@@ymirs4400 hes mentioned in goblet of fire by name and shows up in order of the phoenix as the unnamed barkeep in the hogs head
Exactly just shows how little Joe actually knows about the Harry Potter world
The first one was ok, but it should have been a one movie deal tbh. They keep naming it fantastic beasts, and get us invested in Newt but totally put him on the backburner here. A movie series Id like to see is the creation of Hogwarts. Seeing the stories of the original headmasters.
Also, funny side note: she requested an order for half a dozen copies of the case, comes back with 4.
another detail that I feel was dropped in the rewrite was Jacob's wand. Newt mentions it has no core like its foreshadowing that something is inside it that will play a role in the ploy but there's no payoff
I think the biggest problem with Fantastic Beasts is that there's no reason for this series to exist. I was alright with the first movie, the second was a snoozefest, the third I haven't watched yet and don't plan on doing. But either way, none of the movies gave a reason for this series to exist.
It feels like a dollar store Doctor Who. Where they decided to take out all the interesting parts of the Harry Potter world that made it good and rehash it's story with politics instead.
I think the first worked as a stand along
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It’s time to let the Harry Potter franchise Rest In Peace.
Should've done that when they started to "mugglefy" the film series. I miss how Hogwarts and the teachers looked from the first two movies
we need to take the Harry Potter franchise behind the barn, watch a last,beatiful sunset together and gently put it to sleep. If the young Potterfans ask about it, the franchise lives at a farm now. We can't go visit it though
it won't die, they will milk this franchise until it's dry. incoming mini series
@@masterknife8423
This niqqa said mugglefy
They just need to expand it in a way that makes sense, Im hyped for the Hogwarts Legacy though!
The good thing about this movie was I got so bored that I looked for a new data deal whilst the movie was playing and saved myself £17 a month, thanks fantastic beast.
I started having my doubts when the trailers were less about the move and more about capturing the nostalgia of the harry potter series created.
I always know a good review is coming up when Alex is facepalming in the thumbnail.
That was the first thing I noticed 😂
That's the one thing I always look for first
same 💪🏾🤣
It's like they make sure he does it in the Thumbnail
I’ve actually clicked on every facepalm video when I typically haven’t watched AJ as much as I used to. Marketing strats?
I'm convinced that the fantastic beast trilogy is a comedy.
Why
@@alexl.4362 Because
I used to think it was a tragedy....
@@ultimaxkom8728 That works.
Huh?
"It's not for thinking grown adults, it's not for Harry Potter fans, and it's certainly not for children... who the fuck is this for?"
This really got me! 🤣
i just got home from seeing this movie. Here are my thoughts: For the first half of the movie I was so worried about trying to touch or hold my date's hand that i have no clue what happened. For the second half of the movie it was warm in the theater and the chair was cozy and I had to stop myself from falling asleep. I have no clue what actually happened. But it was a nice date
Good for you! 😸
wholesome as shit
Did you get the hand tho???
I didn't even know this movie existed until the reviews started coming out
I remember watching the first trailer and the very next day I see everyone reviewing it
there was a lot of 'oh yeah that film's coming out soon' and then going to see sonic 2 'oh the movie comes out in 5 days'
I honestly thought its release was later this year, so I forgot it was april entirely
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You know it’s good when Alex is facepalming in the thumbnail.
Joe consistently saying "Grumball" instead of Grindelwald is hilarious, but them saying how they remember all the Harry Potter movies while forgetting Aberforth, Hermione's parentage (both her parents are muggles, thats why Malfoy calls her "Mudblood") and how the Elder wand works is doubly hilarious.
What I find fascinating is how and why people continue to pay money to see movies that are quite obviously terrible? 😐🤨🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
The second this movie ended I googled how many Fantastic Beasts movies there will be in the theater… when I saw “5 movies” I said fuck this to my friend 😂
WB said they future movies hinge on the performance of this one so it’s likely they’ll be cancelled
The 'Secret of Dumbledore' was that he secretly liked a big meaty-sausage. XD
does he rhyme with the word "Day"?
Up the wizard bum
Jajajjajaja
Yeah ... A Swedish German sausage
Yeah like the one you put in mouth everyday
You guys should know that grindelwald isn’t killed by dumbledore, just defeated. He appears in deathly hallows and is killed by Voldemort in the books
5:06
If the Big Harry Potter fan of the group is falling asleep in the beginning, that's not a good sign for the movie.
To be honest the only way these movies could have worked is if they were sort of an stand alone anthology series, first movie on fantastic beast, second one for the origin of Grindelwald and third one about Dumbledore young days. But WB and JK probably were too greedy and want a big brand like the old HP films. The fantastic beast original cast literally have nothing to do in this film and the whole nagini thing that build some hype from the previous one is literally forgotten.
yeah, just like how jk forgot to have harry use sirius' 2 way talking mirror to communicate with him safely in book 5.
I'm going to be honest... I didn't know another Fantastic Beasts was even coming out.
Your not alone, heck I even forgot it was coming out this month.
I just found out an hour before this review came out
Same here.
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For the Elder Wand, it's who ever Kills or Disarms the other wizard can use the full power of the elder wand
My biggest problem with Harry Potter has always been that people only ever seem to learn spells that already exist. Nobody is making new magic. The wizards don't embrace/incorporate much modern technology either. Seems strange
Are we watching the same films? The new movies we have seen so many spells not seen before
@@WhatsUrPing I haven't been keeping up with the new stuff.
@@BlooCollaGal oh lol fair enough
@@BlooCollaGal I thought you meant the newer films not just Harry Potter my bad, yeh I agree then
Should seem oddly familiar as that’s how our man-made world goes … Do you really not recognize that 😲
Took my 7 year old nephew to the movie and immediately got uncomfortable when they killed the Chila and dozed off quite a bit with the Dumbledore scenes 😂
That'd grindewald for you. He's not a nice guy lol
That is life
I read somewhere that Warner Bros are just pumping these movies out to like keep the rights to the ip or something and at this stage It really feels like it, this is coming from a die hard potter fan. It feels like to me the FB movies aren't even in the same universe as the HP movies because of how little im interested in them
Nah jk rowling is writing these things, Johny depp just became radioactive at the wrong moment
Of course, because she will charge them so much for the licence after the way she has been treated
@@TheSILENTBOB180 She's the one writing the shit show. I say blame JK Fraudling
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I feel like I need to watch your show the day and time you put it out.. before someone bans you again. It's like rushing to the store for a sale before it's out of stock. Love your show.
How is nobody mentioning that a film called Secrets of Dumbledore actually has NO secrets?? So many things I would love to know about Dumbledore and I learned NOTHING new. 😓
For ONCE, Percy Jackson is finally getting more attention and devotion than Harry Potter after being written off as a knockoff for years now. It's oddly satisfying.
I've enjoyed the percy movies more than the latest two from this series.
Those movies are… rough to say the least. I’m a huge fan of the books, and Heroes of Olympus was my Avengers. I’ve heard rumors that they’re making a tv show on Disney+ with Riordan heavily involved. Hopefully they pay the source material more respect, that franchise is a goldmine for badass action, meaningful romance, and a sharp sense of whit. I’d love to see it done justice.
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Honestly the movie was okay, but some points were weird and confusing. I like Mads Mikkelsen as Grindelwald and they used more magic in this film than the last few movies combined. But the look on Alex’s face on the thumbnail says it all 😂😂😂
I didn't think it was that bad, it was decent, not great but not terrible
He makes that face for pretty much everything, I watched it while gaming.. didn't really grab my attention away from the game at all
@@kasimahmed3841 but a definite improvement over Crimes of Grindelwald
I agree with all the comments so far. I enjoyed the movie. It wasn't a brilliant film by any means but is was perfectly serviceable and a reasonable watch. I enjoyed Mads as Grindewald but I definitely would have preferred that Johnny Depp continued to play the role and I can't help but feel that a lot of fans were turned off by how Warner Brothers treated both himself and JK Rowling. To many films are definitely being used as Platforms for Wokeness but I definitely didn't feel Fantastic Beasts 3 had to much of that rubbish going on fortunately. It's main problem was a pretty confused story line that couldn't work out if it was about magical beast's, the magical community or the horrible political games of the Elite class that nobody really cares about 🤔. That side of the film and it's lack of focus was a mess sadly.
@@mattb6646 how did you manage to watch while gaming.. 😅
You dont become the master of the Elder Wand by killing its master. You get it by disarming its master. Thats why Harry was the master of the Elder Wand. Draco disarmed Dumbledore, and didnt kill him, then Harry disarmed Malfoy.
I just realized. this is the Harry Potter equivalent of the new SW trilogy, They had no plan on how to make these trilogies end, SW was ruined by directors forcing their ideas into it and FB was ruined by trying to get HP equivalent numbers.
Alex is face palming in the thumbnail…
This is gonna be good!
I just want Alex's review, it's what we live for.
Honestly, I respect Joe on his videogame knowledge on the other hand his takes on movies, series, etc are absolutely retarded and fanboy driven, is really fucking cringy
Alex could potentially be bigger than AJ. I think a lot of the audience llike to hear his thoughts just as AJ.
@@jamesviken2589 doubt it.
Yeah but especially Love the dynamic as a group.
@@TheManWhoTypes Alex is the only one who actually faces the music on all of these reviews, angry Joe is always trying to rationalize things, other Joe plays the middle line.
Only kids who enjoy hearing spastic curses and loud yelling think Alex doesn’t have legitimate points. Take one look at this comment section and cope harder.
Now back to flying drones through sewers kiddo.
I don't think that was supposed to be the 'final, epic battle' between Dumbledore and Grindelwalt. But that might have to be at this point.
You Three are great, those movies don't interest me but your reviews are so much more entertaining than any movie could be. Keep up the good work. 👍👍
joe the problem is grindelwald is alive in the potter saga, so they cant kill him
Correct
That’s not a reason. It’s an excuse. Bad writing.
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The PROBLEM with the entire trilogy is J.K. Rowling herself. She is a Book writer, not a Screen writer.
There is a HUGE difference.
Screen writers face a lot more obstacles than book writers do. One of those things being time. That's why all 3 movies feel none sensical, boring, complicating and confusing of all. J.K. Rowling needs to stop writing these movies!!
I mean the Harry Potter films themselves are pretty terrible barring the first 2
I believe this new franchise needs a different director!
@@slowmercy69 Word. The first two captured the "magic" if you will of the fantasy setting. And by having children cast in the role, it captured that childlike wonder of what being in a magical world would feel like. As the story goes on, it just gets so steeped in darkness and politics that you lose a lot of that wonder.
Sounds like this franchise has had the same problem, except all the way through. Just dark, empty drivel.
@@BattleBladeWarrior I blame the director(s)
The books became longer, and they couldn't include everything. Added to this is the tendency to be unfaithful to the source material. I used to love the films but then one time I watched the third movie after reading the book: the film was god-awful, many bits were just not correct. It was like the producers of the film had not really read the book
And from then on I read each book and watched the movie. The first two managed to cram as much as they could into their runtime while maintaining the, like, feel of the books and being decent films. The rest of the films just changed stuff and ended up being disjointed scenes, with terrible acting by the students. Like, watch Emma Watson in Order of the Phoenix
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@@slowmercy69 You kidding? Prisoner of Azkaban is one of the best in the series. Alfonso did an amazing job.
Alex and Joe's early statement is right on the head. It feels like it's made just for the people looking for *anything* new to be able to get back into the world.
I watched the first movie and it felt like a dollar store Doctor Who, so I completely lost interest in the series after that. Which it even failed at doing that, it just doesn't feel like it was made to accomplish anything meaningful. Most of the characters don't even feel like they're really adding to anything, they're just there to tag along. They also decided to remove all the actually interesting parts of the Harry Potter world and replace them with politics that is essentially just a lazy rehash of the original movies. But instead of Grindelwald actually feeling like a threat, he turns out to just be a dollar store Voldemort. He's not even a Dark Lord, which it probably would have been much better if he turned out to be one.
It's sad. My friend went on the 2nd day and it was around noon and no one was in the theater. The lobby was full... but there was him his sister, and 3 other single people in the movie house that seats over 100.
That happened to me as well, it was probably about 20 people in a house of 100 seats. It was disappointing to see that because I do want them to continue the last two films. I will hate to see it be canceled.
I’m a massive Harry Potter fan but the fantastic beast is boring as fuck I keep falling asleep while watching it
I mean some points were making sense to me, at least I think so.
Albus vs. Credense was happening in young one's mind, it was an illusion spell.
Kowalski getting Crucio was because he was already accused (but not sure why we was walking all willie nillie) of attempted murder on Grindelwald.
Breaking the curse was because both Albus and Aberforth tried protecting Credense, with Aberforth's spell making direct contact with Grindelwald and Albus' just strengthening it.
But so many points just weren't adding up. Just like in books - you can explain many things with magic. But the movie felt lazy and inconsistent.
I wouldn't really call Aberforth a "new" character as he was prominent in the 7th harry potter book.
Your timing is fucking spot on, Joes. Got home from the theater, took a shower, this video was waiting for me. I fucking love you guys.
As soon as I noticed Alex's arms crossed, I knew immediately knew he was gonna rip into this movie in his signature style.
In my opinion, this movie was merely a "meh". It was not nearly as good as it needed to be to revive the series.
I don't remember, but you don't have to kill the owner of the Elder wand... I believe you only need to ''win''? Harry gets it from Malefoy because he disarmed him I think? I don't remember exactly how it comes from Dumbledore to Harry, but I believe it went Dumbledore to Malefoy... to Harry. Not sure. It's been soooo long.
I am pretty sure Grinderwald doesn't die and is sent to prison. Voldemort kills him later I think.
On Albus' brother... Maybe you don't remember, but he was always an existing character from the later HP books. I don't remember if he was in the movie, but he was in the books ;)
Honestly, they should just stop making movies about this at this point. The writting is terrible.
Nah, Severus Snape is the one who killed Dumbledore in that tower scene, then later Voldermort killed Snape. The previous owner has to die.
@@M419.99 Not really, that's the whole reason why Voldemort's spell bounced back when he was about to kill the Elder Wand's owner. Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore in the tower and that's when he became the owner of the wand, then later Harry disarmed Malfoy when he escaped their house and that's when he became the owner. Snape was never the owner of the wand and that was Voldermort's mistake that costed his life.
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This movie could have bean good if it was written well , like how in the first couple HP movies it was very light hearted but in the later movies it became darker and darker. Though when Alex said he rembered the HP movies but then forgot about DBs bro I laughed out loud 🤣. Though it does seem that you guys did forget somethings from the previous movies. Honestly I think the ministry of magic is weak as hell , if I'm remembering it right , I'm pretty sure that the ministry was taken over by the death eaters , which left the fate of the whole wizarding war to a bunch of hogwarts students and teachers which is kinda dumb.
I think the thing was, it wasn’t just weak, but also very corrupt and very outdated, which was the primary factor that lead to their downfall 🤔
The first of the fantastic beasts was peek for this new series, and Newt is a very interesting character. It’s a shame all the amazing creatures are taking a backseat when it’s in the title 🤣
The creatures are the best part of the movies right?
yes thank you!! All I wanted was to see Newt's adventures with the fantastic beasts... Magical Pokémon 😢😢😢
@@eternalconfusion6226 I did a whole video on my channel mentioning that same point in a video called how to fix fantastic beasts. Feel free to stop by to check that out and my other movie content too.
I liked the first film in this series. The second one was just 2 hours of exposition dump. It was "hey, remember when we mentioned this name one time in the original series? Here they are! Here's a reference." It felt like Star Wars prequels. Someone mentioned something as a throwaway line, better bring it up because people will memberberry it.
I work at a theater. I had the job of ushering the theaters for the early screenings for this movie. A lot of the theaters had people who passed out and fell asleep. That told me the movie was boring as hell of a lot of people couldn’t stay awake 😂😂😂
Thank you. I just didn’t understand how he suddenly broke the blood pact with that reasoning. He was attacking, I was protecting….like
After all that!
Their wards met but they didn't mean to kill each other so it caused the blood pact to break. Thought this was obvious.
@@mandisi5144 clearly not since I ain’t the only one questioning it
Right? So they could have just fought all along?
I am sorry you have to suffer for our amusement Alex, know we appreciate you.
Alex da 🐐 fr
and all da AJS crew
@@sirleeproductions he's like Oj, Aj, and Delrith fused into one being.
I have watched a lot of other reviews and its funny that almost everyone says that this is better than the previous one which I agree (mostly because of storytelling compered to that one). But honestly when I saw it I also thought it was sooo boring. It would be so interesting if (S P O I L E R S ! ! ! ) Dumbledore and Grindelwald had the same fight paralleled with really simillar fight that happened when they were young. I also would like to find out MORE about ALBUS Dumbledore.
i agree there is just one problem with that in order to do that you probably have to dive deeper into Albus and Grindelwalds homosexual relationship and that would inevitable mean no chinese box office
@@gregmadden6519 I guess but for example Joker or Dark Knight didn't play in China (red it somewhere I think) and they made bunch of money! I know those movies are like million times better (So I do see your point) but it just kinda feels like they want to introduse something different/new in the movie (Albus being gay) but are too much afraid to deepen the story with that concept. This whole franchise suffers from one major thing (of course not just only one!). It doesn't feel like a franchise with continues story. It feels like three movies from HP world with some characters and sometimes magical creatures. That's what is missing compered to HP movies. There have been introduced so many concepts throughout all movies (D and G being gay, Letta sacrifaces her life for love (almost like Lily), G showing wizards and witches the reason why they should be concerned about muggles (WWII), Jacob as a muggle being thrown to world of magic etc. etc.) but it just feels like they dropped it in the story and then kinda forgot about it.
@@gregmadden6519 i didnt like Mad Mikkelsen on the role of Grindelwald,he is too serious and too EVIL,i always imagined Grindelwald like someone you would follow as if he is a good guy and then later when you are too deep you understand his methods are unethical and evil.
@@gregmadden6519 it would also mean really fucking cringe and i would rather they hadnt turned him into another boring gay character. like if you wanna do that make a new character, quit changing old shit. these writers seem to think that just cause the character is gay makes it a well developed character with good writing. just no.
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Spoilers
First, I am going to start out with some positives because I really did enjoy a few things in this film.
The opening restaurant scene with Gellert Grindelwald/Albus Dumbledore and the scene in the forest with Newt rescuing the Qilin are both excellent. Mads Mikkelsen is fantastic as Grindelwald. He exudes the perfect duality of charm and menace that genuinely makes me believe he is the type of person Dumbledore might actually have fallen in love with. The resolution with Credence and Aberforth was pretty interesting and one of the more satisfying plot points in the movie. Jacob is an amazing character that brings some much needed comic relief to this series, and Jude Law does a great job playing Dumbledore (even if I initially wanted to see Jared Harris in the role of a younger Dumbledore). On the topic of Jude Law playing Dumbledore, get Jude Law some pajamas and shelve the suit - he's Albus Dumbledore, not Al Capone.
Now, for the mixed and rough parts of the film. I was really surprised at the ending with the Qilin because I thought the real Qilin was going to end up bowing to Jacob. It would've been fascinating to contrast Grindelwald's speech about muggles being the enemy with the Qilin identifying a muggle as the person most filled with purity and goodwill. It would have been a fantastic twist and fit well within Jacob's character arc because we know he is a well intentioned person with Dumbledore even saying to him earlier in the film that Jacob is "a pure/good hearted person."
Also, there is kind of a ridiculous irony that the "Qilin" - the bewitched dead one - bows to Grindelwald and identifies him as "pure" and then Grindelwald immediately proceeds to cast two Unforgivable Curses within the next minute in front of the entire wizarding world 😂.
I was a bit disappointed with the resolution to the Blood Troth plot-line. The Harry Potter series was always great at coming up with fascinating storylines involving magical devices/concepts, but the resolution to this magical item felt a bit lacking. I was expecting Dumbledore/Newt to find a more clever way to destroy the Blood Troth(or maybe Jacob would use his non-magical insight to provide a unique perspective that might lead to an idea on how to destroy it). The other stylistic choice that continues to perplex me with each Fantastic Beasts film involves the wardrobe choices for most of the characters; why does every witch/wizard look like a 1920s gangster? They establish in the Harry Potter series that witches and wizards dress in a unique manner when compared to muggles. The lack of any color in the world - compliments of Mr. David "Director's Seat Who Is Way Too Comfortable" Yates - in combination with a serious lack of creative wardrobing is what contributes to this world feeling bland, lifeless, and unable to create a strong sense of magical wonder. Where are the crazy outfits? Where are the wizard/witch hats and crazy get-ups that we saw with different characters in the Harry Potter series. I want to see unique wizards with creative character designs and complex personalities similar to Mad-Eye Moody or Professor Lupin.
My diagnosis for the remainder of the series would be to move on from director David Yates; and instead of jumping right back into production for the 4th film, let JK Rowling write the last two films first as novels. Then, when JK Rowling is finished with the novels, have a screenwriter interpret the books and write two films that translate the story effectively to the big screen - similar to how the Harry Potter movies were done. JK Rowling is an excellent novelist, but some storytelling mechanics that work in a novel do not always translate well to film. There is still another 15 - 20 years of in-universe time before Dumbledore and Grindelwald have their climactic final duel and letting JK Rowling take her time to correctly craft these final two stories might at least help end this series on a high note.
They also need to increase the stakes in this story. This series is supposed to be occurring during the first Wizarding War where Grindelwald is thought to be the most dangerous dark wizard of all time. Outside of Grindelwald's belief in magical supremacy, and the occasional murder, we really don't see Grindelwald come close to the evil or danger that Voldemort presented to the wizarding world. We are told that Grindelwald is a dangerous dark wizard, but we don't really see it in the way I think we should as an audience. To be clear, this isn't the fault of any of the six actors who have portrayed Grindelwald - it's the writing. We know Voldemort is a dangerous dark wizard because the Harry Potter series begins with Voldemort murdering an infants parents and attempting to kill a child. We know he has inflicted mass PTSD on the wizarding population because the average wizard cannot bring themselves to even utter Voldemort's name. This film did a better job than the previous Fantastic Beasts outing of painting Grindelwald as a dangerous dark wizard, but it still feels like we need to see more before he can be considered in the same breath as Voldemort (and to be fair, that may be where the series is heading now that Grindelwald was unable to take over the wizarding world through "peaceful" means).
Anyway, if anyone actually read all of this then I personally thank you 😂 Harry Potter was one of my favorite book/movie series growing up and I really wanted to see this series succeed - its quite a bummer to see it struggling(especially because I think there IS actually a compelling story somewhere in here).
Now Joe you got to review Everything Everywhere All at Once, that movie was freaking amazing. Shout out to Ke Huy Quan (kid from temple of doom) stole every scene he was in.
Been waiting to hear your guys thoughts! Personally the humor hit for me and it was fun but some weird plot points really took me out at some points. Did really like some of the duel stuff with Dumbledore
The stories may still be there, but The Magic is clearly gone.
I would have loved a series of stories about Newt traveling the world helping to trap or appease dangerous magical creatures that might end up wandering into muggle populated areas if they aren't careful. Like if a dragon got magical rabies and is seen heading towards a muggle city so Newt has to stop it. Or magical hunters took a nundu's cubs so Newt has to get the cubs back to the mother before it goes on a rampage and destroys an entire town. They would have only needed to make a trilogy instead of a 5 movie series, and they could have finished it with a grand finale with some kind of Godzilla sized creature that's just waking up from hibernation that Newt has to make the hard decision to not save because its too aggressive and he has to end up killing it or something. There are so many things you can do with Magical creatures and I don't feel like they are taking advantage of it. We already have good spy movies, good soldier/army movies, good magic spell movies (the original Harry Potter Movies), so having movies that focus on magical creatures that don't have to worry about the world building too much because the Harry Potter original movies already did that, would be amazing.
Diverse cast: ✔️
LMBTQ: ✔️
Cuteness: ✔️
Nostalgia scenes: ✔️
Story: Lets shovel together something fast with no logic at all then on to the next movie..
As a Harry Potter fan I was shocked how bad this movie was. I liked the first one, was curious what the next movies are going to be. Then watched the second one, literally nothing happened in the 95% of the movie. Then here we are with the third one almost feels like the second one. Nothing happened, awful boring "story", almost fell asleep at around 1 hour into the movie.. Its really sad what they are doing with this universe...
Were there any overpowered women in this movie that could beat up all men?
Hopefully CBS doesn't take this down
Don’t you mean WB
Oh yeah, facepalming Alex in the thumbnail! This one is bound to be a good one lmao.
Honestly, the way WB treated Johnny stained this whole series for me, plus I can't sit there and watch a bunch of people pretending to be the beacons of morality and standing to the forces of darkness when nobody of the cast did anything against a horrible injustice happening just as they started filming it, one of them (Jacob's actor) actually posting a bunch of victim blaming tweets, Dave Batista put his career on the line when James Gunn was fired by Disney, that's a man with principles.
This hurts because believe it or not, Newt is the protagonist whom I've connected the most in all of cinema, I relate so hard to everything about him and It's a really bold and unique male protagonist to have, in a big franchise nonetheless. But I guess abuse supporters Warner Bros had to come, fire Ray Fisher and JD while keeping Amber Heard and Ezra Miller, and just be complete assholes, all of that really made me avoid this studio like the plague.
Just get over about Jonny Deep already jeez ppl caring about celebrities like if they give a damn about them 😆 🤣
@@kratos1783 it’s about giving a f*ck about male victims of abuse,
d umbass. I hope if when your partner/significant other abuses you, you have a group of people that would support you through it.
The ACTUAL secret of Dumdledore, is that Credence is the lovechild of his brother and their SISTER, which explains the obscurial power being passed on, and why he was discarded. True story. Probably.
Whaaaaaaaaattheeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc
8:28 My favourite quote: "It's all the incest"
Can’t wait for Alex to start his own reviews or side podcasts, love his takes.
I think the same. He really has so much to say and always brings very good points. Deserves a little more time in the reviews
Alex podcast would be great to fall asleep to
He has the most refined palate of the 3
Remember when everyone hated Alex because he hurt their feelings?
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I’ve been back watching AJS a few months ago after not having time over the last few years. I noticed Alex has been in with reviews and what not. What a great addition. You got AJ being AJ, OJ reminding me of me 😂, and Alex just giving an opinion that opens up the others perspective. When did he come on board with the team?
An actually, deliberately dark prequel of wizard wars and massive collateral damage of regular humans, leading up to the formation of the Ministries of Magic to keep the peace would be amazing for all the kids that grew up with the Harry Potter books.
Imagine how much more support and money this film would’ve made in box office if JD was in it.
LOL no, it would only get more support if Rowling stopped being a transphobe
Ikr
@@jacksonteller3973 no not really since she entitled to her opinion
@@jacksonteller3973 oh please you people are soft, men cannot be woman and woman cannot be men how does that make you transphobic
@@jacksonteller3973 it’s called science
Mads, Jude and Redmayne, you'd expect this to be one hell of a movie. :(
Nope, not considering the writers and the general cash grab nature of this ology of films 🤷🏻♂️
Joe, is there anyway you can post the audio for these movie reviews as a podcasts? I understand the game reviews have a lot of visuals so those wouldn't work well, but I feel like I would get the info from these movie reviews just fine. If you already do, maybe put a link the the description so I know where to get it please. Thanks man, keep up the good work.
I went in thinking it was going to be good and it was sooooooo bad
The battle at the end was so lame, this is dumbledore at his peak against who supposedly is the greatest dark wizard of all time and they throw a couple of stun spells and then it ends? dumbledore was like 1000 years old vs voldemort and he would still wipe the floor with this version of the character