Why Vans Wants to Own Skating

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 13. 05. 2024
  • Vans is the #1 skateboarding shoe company in the world, having become the uniform of choice for skaters, bikers, surfers and snowboarders alike. But how did a small, family-owned business achieve such success when facing competition from rivals like Converse, newcomers like Under Armour, and sneaker giants like Nike?
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    00:00 Intro & History
    01:49 Vans & Skate Culture
    03:55 Rise & Fall
    05:03 Transition to Marketing Company
    08:55 The Future?
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Komentáƙe • 600

  • @AthleticInterest
    @AthleticInterest  Pƙed 3 lety +415

    Two corrections for full disclosure:
    2:03 That’s Jay Adams, not Stacy Peralta.
    4:35 In 1988 Vans was sold to McCown De Leeuw & Co and then later to the VF Corporation.
    Thanks for all the support and feedback! What brand do you want us to talk about next?

    • @lodisfootwear3019
      @lodisfootwear3019 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      and the video doesnt explain why vans wants to own skating, but its more of a "the story of vans" video

    • @xxlolzzaxx
      @xxlolzzaxx Pƙed 3 lety +3

      3:38 / 4:21 - that’s Steve Van Doren, Paul’s son! great video though!!

    • @nicholaskearns6669
      @nicholaskearns6669 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      I saw 2:02 and immediately was like that’s jay adams and went right to the comments to see this lmao good on ya mate

    • @tudormiller8898
      @tudormiller8898 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Generally when I think of Vans I think of Skateboarding, when I think of Skateboarding I immediately think of Vans So skateboarding and Vans go together like Apple products and technology.

    • @cuzco1231
      @cuzco1231 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      At 1:32 that’s Sean Penn wearing vans for the filming of fast times at ridgemont high. Not James van doren. You even mentioned it in the video!!! How could you miss that??

  • @skateboardbruh
    @skateboardbruh Pƙed 3 lety +1741

    Make sure to get the "pro" model if you want to skate these shoes! ;)

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 Pƙed 3 lety +65

      I don't like skating even in vans pros, I prefer Converse Ctas Pros, they last me months

    • @poobingo1555
      @poobingo1555 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      Yo I love your vids, is a new video coming out soon?

    • @kuskus5842
      @kuskus5842 Pƙed 3 lety +75

      The pros are sooooo much better than regular vans, even for normal leisure

    • @TheCrazzyGuy11
      @TheCrazzyGuy11 Pƙed 3 lety +23

      I liked the sk8 highs for bmxing but Nike SBs always lasted the longest for skating, always had my vans ruined in a week

    • @instability2247
      @instability2247 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Depends on the pros the ones without heel padding suck they will eventually tear up your heel

  • @Mnka7
    @Mnka7 Pƙed 3 lety +712

    this guy german accent gets me everytime

    • @p1roncho
      @p1roncho Pƙed 3 lety +77

      and finally someone pronouncing adidas with the correct accent on the first A

    • @Jack-sc3dn
      @Jack-sc3dn Pƙed 3 lety +24

      Legit his voice is why I'm here

    • @ridingtothegrave
      @ridingtothegrave Pƙed 3 lety +5

      It’s a sign of great engineering

    • @apfelschorle1988
      @apfelschorle1988 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@Floricena7 who told you that you don't have an accent?

    • @DAZUNIVERSALINDUSTREIS
      @DAZUNIVERSALINDUSTREIS Pƙed 2 lety +1

      It’s nice

  • @Mu3azOsman
    @Mu3azOsman Pƙed 3 lety +798

    I ain't even interested in sports, but the quality of storytelling and awesome editing keep me coming back!

  • @JB-xk4kl
    @JB-xk4kl Pƙed 3 lety +324

    If you work at a vans store. This info is a part of you hiring training.

    • @psnpanuch8142
      @psnpanuch8142 Pƙed 3 lety

      No it’s not we were asked about any of vans history

    • @sidgillespie5879
      @sidgillespie5879 Pƙed 3 lety +20

      That's not that bad though. I once went to a Zumiez and asked a girl who works there to show me what they have from Etnies. She didn't k ow the brand even though they had shoes from it.

    • @storrho
      @storrho Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@sidgillespie5879 If you've ever worked in retail, it takes a while till you get familiar with everything the store has.
      I've worked at a supermarket for 2 years and i still didn't know every single obscure product.

    • @sidgillespie5879
      @sidgillespie5879 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@storrho I know what you mean but she didn't seem new and a whole shoe brand is not an obscure product.

  • @Glitch_II
    @Glitch_II Pƙed 3 lety +184

    "The production was moved to China..." shows a short clip of Koreans in front of a Korean palace in Seoul 😂😂

    • @Vinnicombe1
      @Vinnicombe1 Pƙed 2 lety

      Ok

    • @cozyboii9581
      @cozyboii9581 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      was just wondering too, bc i was at that place in south korea and he talks about china 😅😂

    • @seedfamily1404
      @seedfamily1404 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Ugggghhhh... That shit was painful.
      "Just some casual orientalism, no biggie."
      Running especially rampant these days...

    • @justme-hh4vp
      @justme-hh4vp Pƙed 2 lety

      that's where they make the seoul!

  • @alessandromascherin6827
    @alessandromascherin6827 Pƙed 3 lety +388

    I’m only at minute 1, but always remember “skaters chose vans, Nike bought skateboarding”

    • @DopamineMVWM
      @DopamineMVWM Pƙed 3 lety +33

      That’s why I refuse to support Nike sb

    • @fucker9002
      @fucker9002 Pƙed 3 lety +25

      @Mango if you want skater owned why dont you just get Ă©s or emerica or something else, they are more skater owned than nike

    • @TLSH12
      @TLSH12 Pƙed 3 lety +42

      skaters choose emerica,es,supra or "core" skate brands. Vans is just a half step down from nike.

    • @tristans_
      @tristans_ Pƙed 3 lety +80

      @@PrinceVegita1 they’re successful and mainstream so people hate them to be cool and edgy. Wear what makes you comfy or happy

    • @TLSH12
      @TLSH12 Pƙed 3 lety +53

      @@PrinceVegita1 core skate brands are skater owned, nike is corporate. its the same deal as "shop local" or "support small businesses". Instead its "support core skate brands" or "buy skater owned". its a bout supporting the community instead of globalized brands(if you want to support that it's fine, but its not because their "mainstream" as others falsely identified)

  • @leeanucha
    @leeanucha Pƙed 3 lety +29

    I love the fact that i can go buy the VANS model i use to wear in the 90s right now.

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 Pƙed 3 lety +40

    Geoff Rowley did a lot for Vans when it comes to core skateboarding consumers.
    During the 90's Vans wanted to go away from their classic look and focus on more techincal design,since that was the norm during that era. But it simply didn't fit for them. But the good part was that they had Geoff Rowley on their team,who at the time was one of the best skateboarders in the world. He did insane tricks in his videoparts,lots of skateboarders looked up to him...and Geoff always did his tricks in the classic Vans shoes. He promoted that look in his video parts and it also helped that he was in tony hawk pro skater video games. Nobody at that time did more for Vans skateboarding than he did.
    I can't think of a better shoe costumer than a skateboarder. Basketball player,football player might have the same pair of shoes for half a season. Skateboarders on other hand need new shoes non stop. Is a cosutmer that keeps coming back over and over again.

  • @MdAbdurCT
    @MdAbdurCT Pƙed 3 lety +108

    This channel deserve a lot of success for their hardwork.❀

  • @rockymanewasted
    @rockymanewasted Pƙed 3 lety +77

    This channel made me realize I’m interested in things I wasn’t interested in

  • @andrewhines939
    @andrewhines939 Pƙed 3 lety +24

    growing up in California vans were apart of my life

  • @andreidoanca4262
    @andreidoanca4262 Pƙed 3 lety +185

    Top content as always! I'm glad a bumped into your channel.

  • @umairabbasi8196
    @umairabbasi8196 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I'm a business student and your videos help me a lot thank you very much

  • @funygameur
    @funygameur Pƙed 3 lety +74

    Was recommended to me after 1m of being posted, had 50 views.
    Never heard of this channel,
    never clicked on a skateboarding video. *WHY?*

    • @goassnmane
      @goassnmane Pƙed 3 lety +11

      be greatfull it did

    • @funygameur
      @funygameur Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@goassnmane oh, now, I am!
      Totally!!

    • @phoenix-king779
      @phoenix-king779 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@funygameur it’s sad how many times I taped that read more

    • @funygameur
      @funygameur Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@phoenix-king779 I agree, same for me. I'll try my best not to do it anymore, you're right. Wasting time.

    • @funygameur
      @funygameur Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@phoenix-king779 edited! :)

  • @org-corp
    @org-corp Pƙed 3 lety

    This is an amazing channel . The content is great as always.

  • @iviv1316
    @iviv1316 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    amazing channel, thank you for your effort

  • @nickhumph
    @nickhumph Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Just stumbled across your channel. You’re doing a great thing! Keep going!

  • @MayorInCheif
    @MayorInCheif Pƙed 3 lety +16

    3:49 Vans Caballero model was first sold in 1989. A later innovation, the Vans Half-Cab model was released three years later in 1992.

  • @augustocanosa785
    @augustocanosa785 Pƙed 2 lety

    Dude, this is a good channel, I hope you grow as much as you deserve. Have a nice day.

  • @PlayingOutsideSomewhere
    @PlayingOutsideSomewhere Pƙed 3 lety

    That was fun and informative đŸ€™đŸŒ been wearing vans for 30 years.most my life â€đŸ€—đŸŒŠđŸ‚

  • @adri0095
    @adri0095 Pƙed 3 lety

    Awesome content. Keep it up!

  • @luismartins1150
    @luismartins1150 Pƙed 3 lety

    Great video! This channel is for sure one of my favorite in all youtube

  • @kazyyss
    @kazyyss Pƙed 3 lety +4

    I remember getting first Vans. They tore up rather quickly, never got chance to enjoy them. But for casual everyday use they are perfect.

  • @boltywolty123
    @boltywolty123 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Love old skools. Timeless.

  • @pawegodlewski1991
    @pawegodlewski1991 Pƙed 3 lety

    Your content is great. Amazing job :)

  • @1789Bastille
    @1789Bastille Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Hikmet Sugoer did a brand check on vans and told the story of how van dorren made the waffle sole in his waffle maker at home. He fitted them individually.

  • @yayco_rez
    @yayco_rez Pƙed 3 lety

    Omg, I love this channel, so much.

  • @m.r.8091
    @m.r.8091 Pƙed 3 lety +55

    2:03 In the picture its Jay adams. Not Stacy Peralta.

  • @WolfWould
    @WolfWould Pƙed 3 lety

    Really good work sir! I love Vans. I have a small collection.

  • @woolfy101
    @woolfy101 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I have a few pairs pre the first sell off, the quality difference when you compare to today’s shoes is drastic.

  • @jackharris1
    @jackharris1 Pƙed 3 lety

    Would love to see a video on supreme as it was recently acquired by VF for 2.1bn ! Love the content keep it up!đŸ”„

  • @phoenix-king779
    @phoenix-king779 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This channel is beyond good

  • @BeigeSports
    @BeigeSports Pƙed 3 lety +8

    I legit am considering getting another pair of vans after watching this video.

  • @zuzumuzingomane8385
    @zuzumuzingomane8385 Pƙed 3 lety

    Watching this videos in my vans authentics. What a wow.

  • @Jack-sc3dn
    @Jack-sc3dn Pƙed 3 lety +2

    This is the most underrated CZcams channel

  • @aaronwawra181
    @aaronwawra181 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    You could probably tell the story of how Nike failed in the early 90s trying to get into skating and then later took over with vengeance

    • @jonathanfisher9745
      @jonathanfisher9745 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      And that's exactly why I can't watch the Olympics(I tried last night), that Nike country club gear that everyone was wearing was completely wack and corny......pathetic!

    • @yeahno6100
      @yeahno6100 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Wearing Nikes in Skateboarding is like having a huge floating bill board over your head that reads " I HAVE NO TASTE"

    • @glooboy2206
      @glooboy2206 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@yeahno6100 I mean, if I see Janoskis on sale I’ll buy them. But every other Nike SB is meh.

    • @luisdavasconcellos2914
      @luisdavasconcellos2914 Pƙed rokem

      ​@@yeahno6100 pero lo importante son las piernas no lo que lleves puesto

  • @dogsaymoo7406
    @dogsaymoo7406 Pƙed 3 lety

    Editing is on Point

  • @meuswe
    @meuswe Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I have a pair of custom SK8 Hi’s with comfy Cush and my feet still hurt after a skate session. Airwalks were the shit for me but that was way back in the 80’s. Now I skate in UA Valsetz with a gel insole.

  • @FutonParkour
    @FutonParkour Pƙed 3 lety +5

    It’s pretty simple why Vans are so successful.
    1) Comfort
    2) Style
    3) Affordable
    Can’t say the same about Other brands

  • @senithaperera8466
    @senithaperera8466 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Amazing content as always❀. Hope you will do a video on CR7 soon

  • @juliogalvan2625
    @juliogalvan2625 Pƙed 3 lety

    Vans is dope, I just use crazy glue to fill the holes. Best fix yet. Nicely made, highly informative Video!

  • @rememberedtoys
    @rememberedtoys Pƙed 3 lety +10

    Vans has what so many other shoe and clothing brand are desperately trying to achieve: an authentic status co-signed by skateboarding culture. Nike is getting close, but Weckingball just set them back a few years and Louis Vuitton can’t do that with a $700 skate shoe.

  • @Daniel-lb8tu
    @Daniel-lb8tu Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Daaaaaaaaamn Daniel! Back at it with the white Vans. Tasty, man, tasty!

  • @businessguide6219
    @businessguide6219 Pƙed 3 lety

    Awesome stuff! New subscriber here!

  • @BerinMaik
    @BerinMaik Pƙed 3 lety

    I like the research u doing

  • @Riccardopelle98
    @Riccardopelle98 Pƙed 3 lety

    You made me want to buy a pair of vans again 👏👏

  • @mathieubourhis4916
    @mathieubourhis4916 Pƙed 3 lety

    Nice vid man, very interesting content !!
    Just to have some questions on something, maybe we cannot compare Vans and "thrasher" which is a mag and a form of spirit of skateboarding nowdays, they already have their audience, in my opinion, thrasher don't need " marketing transition " instead of a shoes brand like Vans "maybe "

  • @phoenix-king779
    @phoenix-king779 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Yooo you’ve done videos on sport gods like Ralf and lebron. But the 🐐 of sports marketing Ronaldo would like to make an apperance.
    Love the vids BTW

  • @beanslinger6247
    @beanslinger6247 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    I started wearing etnies a while ago. They feel good and they're almost always on sale for some reason.

  • @jameschristensen1658
    @jameschristensen1658 Pƙed 3 lety +27

    skateboarders go through more shoes. pretty simple

  • @gustavopezzodipanepicallo2648

    The first picture of Stacy its actually Jay Adams. But great video!

  • @voxclips555
    @voxclips555 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I really like your Videos😀

  • @clintendo
    @clintendo Pƙed 3 lety

    Should note that e VPS (Vans Park Series) was taken from the concept of the the US Open Surf competition that also used to hose the Converse Coastal Carnage.. but once Vans took over the surf come converse the skate event was taken over also

  • @siddheshtejal
    @siddheshtejal Pƙed 3 lety

    Great job...!!

  • @freeizzy8395
    @freeizzy8395 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I got my only pair of Vans in like 2010. Was kinda disappointed with how quick the ripped. Took like a month.

  • @jerryhughes8851
    @jerryhughes8851 Pƙed 2 lety

    My first pair were the the Madrid Flys... They did a calibration Madrid Skateboard company. Shoes were "BAD ASS"!!!!

  • @UlloaJordy
    @UlloaJordy Pƙed 3 lety

    I LOOOOVE this channel! Wonderful and extremely interesting content!

  • @paunchcoorlightly4000
    @paunchcoorlightly4000 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    3:57 that is Jake Brown, not "James" Brown (cue James Brown scream)

  • @rizzorizzo2311
    @rizzorizzo2311 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Just started back skateboarding and my wife got me a pair of vans slip ons to skate in. Within 2 weeks the shoes had 3 holes all the way through to my socks đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž

  • @georgedavidson2024
    @georgedavidson2024 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    My guy sounds like Klaus from American Dad

    • @thePacman175
      @thePacman175 Pƙed 3 lety

      Most Germans sound like this (or worse) while speaking English

    • @georgedavidson2024
      @georgedavidson2024 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@thePacman175 doesn't sound bad, he just has a similar vocal timbre to Klaus

  • @thiagofornaciari5668
    @thiagofornaciari5668 Pƙed 3 lety

    Great channel, Make a video about the north face too

  • @carlyle6071
    @carlyle6071 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    The Vans Era were actually called the “Style #95” not “Off the wall”.
    The “Off the wall” is a motto that did make its first appearance on the Style #95 (era) though.

  • @coolhrik
    @coolhrik Pƙed 3 lety +7

    You should do a business of CZcams and chronicle how you guys went from uMaxIT to Tifo to anchoring The Athletic's CZcams channels lmao

  • @Robin-tt4lo
    @Robin-tt4lo Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I’d say it was a pretty good business idea to start making shoes for people who are gonna absolutely shred them and still go and buy the exact same ones.

  • @mclone2581
    @mclone2581 Pƙed 3 lety +54

    your forgot 1 recent thing : Vans bought Supreme

    • @tumbleweed.productions
      @tumbleweed.productions Pƙed 3 lety +14

      didnt that just happen in the past two weeks tho? i understand what you mean but maybe the video was already getting posted before the supreme stuff was announced

    • @user-xj3pt6em4p
      @user-xj3pt6em4p Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@tumbleweed.productions exactly

    • @mclone2581
      @mclone2581 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@tumbleweed.productionsno bro but maybe he already make the video...

    • @blaowskiton
      @blaowskiton Pƙed 3 lety +2

      No they did not, VF Corp bought Supreme, VF Corp owns Vans

    • @marcop.525
      @marcop.525 Pƙed 3 lety

      VF corps sells supreme, vans and guns 😁

  • @R3DLiFE
    @R3DLiFE Pƙed 3 lety

    vans will forever be life for everything ! since 1998 ive been wearing vans XD

  • @TheQsanity
    @TheQsanity Pƙed 3 lety

    Skater here. Subbed!

  • @zeedause5289
    @zeedause5289 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    They've always put back into skate, and that's why they're loved. They're in it for the money, obviously, but they make skating a better sport in being big.

  • @babluch7205
    @babluch7205 Pƙed 3 lety

    Those checker board was my favourite shoes ever

  • @samudhra.aakula7044
    @samudhra.aakula7044 Pƙed 3 lety

    Vans with Van Gogh goddd that's another level!! ❀❀

  • @afhamkamarudin3141
    @afhamkamarudin3141 Pƙed 3 lety

    damn this channel . fuck now i am very motivated

  • @Fanaz10
    @Fanaz10 Pƙed 3 lety +17

    "Twice as thick" I bet it's twice as THIN now

  • @reghuramiyer3671
    @reghuramiyer3671 Pƙed 2 lety

    Please do a video on NoBull shoes. Thanks.

  • @paulocuento9949
    @paulocuento9949 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Please make a video about @STORROR and how they have taken over Parkour. thank you

  • @blessingtirivepi
    @blessingtirivepi Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Could you do one on the business strategy of WWF/WWE

  • @michaelcullen5955
    @michaelcullen5955 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    should also point out that the shoes they were making in that stagnant period in the early 90s were bulky rip offs of dc and osiris, but when they started selling shoes that they used to make, they did well

  • @abscar5336
    @abscar5336 Pƙed 3 lety

    youtube bump this channel up wtf? subbed

  • @localdude2979
    @localdude2979 Pƙed 2 lety

    Brandless footwear is cool too, I only wear vans cause the sole works quite fine with bike pedals!

  • @luisernst91
    @luisernst91 Pƙed 2 lety

    I ride bmx and i love my vans. Especially the slip on pros. My every day shoe

  • @henryhoward7589
    @henryhoward7589 Pƙed 3 lety

    I am a bmx rider they are really good shoes for bmx as they link into the pins in the pedals the bmx vans shoes are good as they feel already broken in

  • @nurmuhammadwahid1957
    @nurmuhammadwahid1957 Pƙed 3 lety

    Wearing vans since mid 2000s đŸ™ŒđŸ»

  • @goodguyphil8625
    @goodguyphil8625 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    do one about converse

  • @harryhaller9670
    @harryhaller9670 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Video in english with "adidas" pronounced right đŸ˜đŸ€€

  • @ibnudiogaungperkasa8449
    @ibnudiogaungperkasa8449 Pƙed 3 lety

    Always rocking b/w old skool since in the highschool. People said converse are comfy once theyre breaking in, but i prefer vans over them.

  • @mayura9875
    @mayura9875 Pƙed 3 lety

    my go buy type of shoes is alwys either vans or converse, and i didnt even skate, just love their model.. its alwys fit with wide variety fashion u be wearing

  • @LeftBackAtHome
    @LeftBackAtHome Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi, what's the music in the background at 3:10?

  • @TunaStrata
    @TunaStrata Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I think its time for you to make video about "the business of david beckham". He is the most celebrity athlete right know.

  • @heinerloser
    @heinerloser Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Ok so nice video...But what was that about own skating? Didn't catch that tbh...

  • @Tomek666
    @Tomek666 Pƙed 3 lety

    legendary skater Steve Kabayero

  • @tmt446
    @tmt446 Pƙed 3 lety

    What software u use to make video amd how he make it somebody help me

  • @candy-fl2651
    @candy-fl2651 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I just spent 10 minutes learning about a shoe company
    No regrets.

  • @keiiko2533
    @keiiko2533 Pƙed 3 lety

    my first pair of vans was given to me by my friends older brother, they were dirty and ripped red checkered vans

  • @sciencedakhasi6409
    @sciencedakhasi6409 Pƙed 3 lety

    Please make a video on how New Balance came as a sports sponsored.

  • @sirdope2575
    @sirdope2575 Pƙed 2 lety

    STACY AND TONY CHANGE THE GAME.. NOT JUST IN VANS BUT ALSO THE WORLD OF SKATEBOARDING

  • @isaacrodriguez6154
    @isaacrodriguez6154 Pƙed 2 lety

    Converse is my favorite skate shoe

  • @moboots
    @moboots Pƙed 3 lety

    My ultimate skate shoe is an air jordan 1 high, also vans does some very sketchy shit to have their shoes classified as sandals/slippers and cheap out on materials so they can save on taxes and shipping costs but still market it as a "shoe" when taking ur money

  • @ababrabrasil1447
    @ababrabrasil1447 Pƙed 3 lety

    Please next video about supreme

  • @vinzsangil4742
    @vinzsangil4742 Pƙed 3 lety

    best of all the skateshoes i used in bmx..

  • @luqmanvhakizm
    @luqmanvhakizm Pƙed 3 lety

    Hi Admin, I have a good content suggestion for you. How about you make a video about the transformation of a club in Malaysia. Johor Darul Takzim FC. A small club which go a great transformation under the Crown Prince Of Johor who takeover in 2013, modernized it and now it is a well know club in South East Asia. I think you'll get more subscribers from Malaysia đŸ‡ČđŸ‡Ÿ. Thanks.
    p/s: just my 2 cent. Your channel have a lot potential to grow more and be popular like Copa90. Love from Malaysia đŸ‡ČđŸ‡Ÿ