Elon Musk's Worst Idea
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thanks for 1 million subs- this channel was an experiment to get good at recording youtube videos offline. The content that I make has changed a lot but clearly the experiment resonated with a lot of you. I appreciate it and I got no plans to slow down going into the next year
Yes
mogul money comeback
😊
Np man keep up the good work
Hush mogul mail. What did you do with ludwig
Are we just going to ignore this man killed Ludwig…
ludwho? mogul mail would never do something like that.
Live on stream no less!
No he didn't. Ludwig faked that. If you look closely you can see that that wasn't Mogul Mail on screen. It was Ludwig pretending to be Mogul Mail.
the bots are fucking evolving
bots making fun of bots smh
yes, he deserved it
It's gonna be sad when everyone slowly realizes that it was the time that made it so good, not the platform itself being good, the reason you miss vine is you miss being 10-15 years old
I really hope that if vine comes back ppl will see the nostalgia and create more content like the ones when vine was up
do people actually miss vine?
uh, nah, a lot of us were in our 20s. gen z is not everyone on the internet. I think the secret to vine was forcing creators to stay within 6 seconds, which limited the cringe factor, and that tiktok was basically a lip-syncing app until vine died and it had to evolve to take vine's place
Not you relaying verbatim jacksepticeye
@@fireem1016 "you can't have the same opinion as someone else, that's illegal now"
Small correction, Twitter was evaluated at about 13 billion when he closed the deal. So he lost about 3/4ths to 2/3rd of the money instantly
no he didnt... it cost 13 billion and its worth 13 billion
@@Trathien- Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion.
That's just wrong
@@beamed5382 proof?
@@liviroon2449 yahoo finance? Literally just look up the stock price when the deal closed and multiply that by the number of shares lmao
I don’t think we can produce vine energy consistently enough anymore
we still do, youtube shorts and shit
@@Antonin1738 not the same. YT shorts and tiktoks are cancerous.
@@SavouryLobster yeah, humour back in 2014-2016 was WAYYYYYYYY different to humour now, just makes me miss MLG memes.
@@nuggetgod2618 it was more cringe that's for sure I used to see memes where it was a bunch of people with flour put around the floor n shit while playing the song that goes "I'm in love with coco" it was so annoying but weirdly humerus lmfao
@@Unknown_Number yeah, MLG was peak though because of how absolutely bizarre it was, remember when people found doritos funny? good times they were.
Please. Let Vine rest. It had its time in the light, and it died a hero. I don't think it can live in Tik Tok's world.
You either die a hero or a billionaire revives you for profit and you become the other Tik Tok
yeah I agree
Vine isn't a person, it doesn't need rest or to stay dead.
It beats Tick Tock everyday
@Mogul Mail 🅥 NOOO WAYY!!!11!!! THE REAL MOGUL MAIL!1!!1!!
IT EVEN HAS THE SUPER REAL CHECKMARK THAT TOTALLY ISNT RECOGNIZABLE AS A FAKE UPON A TINY BIT OF INSPECTION!!!!!
I'm glad someone had the balls to say it.
“Elon treats the world like a guy with $20 treats a dollar store.” 😂
Vine is nothing but nostalgia. As a creator, everything from shooting, editing, and even just growing is so much easier. Don't miss it at all
Easier on CZcams or tiktok? If Vine is reborn, I suspect it will be a tiktok clone anyway.
Vine is 100% a product of its time. Not to say tiktok is good or bad but in terms of cultural impact, success, and profit, it has surpassed vine
I do miss a good vine though haha
As a creator?😭💀
Yeah it's the exact same thing as tiktok except vine had the limitation on video length. Terrible content is on both, great content is on both.
If Mogul Mail dyes his hair a few more times he'll get past Ludwig in no time.
Ludwig is dead this guy is Mogul Mail
nah ludwig is gone
True
If he goes red I'll sub.
who’s ludwig? never heard of that guy..
Vine will never be the same, our sense of humour changed too much.
Especially if they add filters, 80% of TikTok humour is carried by filters/editing.
I was thinking-- maybe he knows that TikTok will end up being blocked in the US, so he'll have somewhere for all those attention seekers to go to.
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 tiktok isn’t going to be blocked in the US anytime soon
It really isn't lol, that's not something you can even verifiy but there is a LOT of content not based on filters. Fuck, most of the shit I see doesn't use filters. This is just boomer talk. "Back in my day..."
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 it won't
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 I hope
We don't need a vine again. All vine is right now is nostalgia
Yes, but tiktok is chinese. The "why" is pretty obvious here
@@setretika5673 what? "why" would we need a platform where you can only post videos up to 6 seconds when we have multiple short video platforms with youtube already being one of them
@@walsheee93 there’s a reason why you could only post up to 6 seconds during that time. And I highly doubt it’s still going to be 6 seconds when it relaunches.
@@Riwuru my point still stands that there is way bigger competition out there right now. If Vine gets released again, sure it might have a huge surge for a couple weeks but after that its just gonna be forgotten again.
@@walsheee93 you mean the exact same thing musically did when vine shutdown? You can’t really speak for the future cause you don’t know what features they may add that could compete with the bigger platforms.
You could say that Elon Musk is going all in and doing it for the vine.
Such an underrated statement
W
Huge W
W
we can only go forward, not back
Elon is the “it’s just a prank bro” type of fella
So the worst kind of human on earth.
@@Jodariel. I have watch two videos from this Mogul, and both were clearly biased.
-Attacking against the source instead of proving that the evidence in that specific article was wrong, is a genetic logical fallacy.
-Media made the assumption that the Pelosi attacker was from side X just because he was anti-government. Well the side Y is also full of people who distrust the government, so this is no evidence at all. The attackers whole front side of the house is full of posters that very strongly indicate that he was on the side Y, but this evidence is ignored by him and media.
-He clearly denies that there is censorship of truth in twitter before Elon.
-He hides that fact that the "non-radicals" are at least as radical as the other sides radicals, and the "radicals" violence is just the expected counter reaction of the other sides oppression and violence. Twitter allowed posts that caused the Christmas parade attack. Elon openly want to stop all radicalization, while the old twitter supported Mar ists liars
@@Jodariel. you realize there are murderers on the planet right? But yeah an edgy cringey guy is the "Worst kind of human on earth" okkay. Extremist cringe
@@nuave Do you realize Elon fart is the same exact guy that didn't want to help or provide masks or gloves to his workers because he didn't care enough even if people working at his company were getting covid left and right and some of them died?
Don't call people extremists if you don't know what you're even talking about.
Also whipping out the old "WhAt AbOuT tHe KiLlErS!?!1!?1!" Gives a STENCH of one of two things:
1- Elon fart shill fanboy, he can never do wrong in my eyes.
2- Can't take sarcasm as it is and instead takes it literally.
Either way...kinda cringe, ngl
To be honest vine before was amazing with super popular memes and especially when there were creators like thomas sanders, king bach, marlon webb, and basically any popular youtuber before 2014.
But now if vine does actually come back I feel like it wont be the same anymore, it had its golden age and it died with happy memories. But maybe Id be wrong i dont know.
love the new format. most entreteinment and up to date than ever !
I don't think vine would survive in the world of tiktok.
I used both Vine and Tik Tok, and Vine without the nostalgia factor is just worse Tik Tok in practically every way
Well what if TikTok gets banned for the danger to national security. It's already in the talks and it might happen sooner than we think.
both your pfps perfectly explained your opinions
@@stalindorf0195 Except that tiktok is literally spying on you
@@Veesu ?
The only difference with TikTok will be the branding. We won't get the old kind of vines back, the content will be about the same as on TikTok
Not true at all. 6 seconds, no reply system and actual categories is literally a 180 experience from TikTok.
How can you even say something so stupid?
@@noname-ng6sj zero brain cells were used in this reply. Nostalgia is clouding your judgement
@@noname-ng6sj explain to me right now how to make that profitable
Plus no spyware and risk of the app being banned. It’s literally safer then tik toc simple because it’s not Chinese.
@@noname-ng6sj they’re probably gonna take shit from TikTok like every other social media app is doing. And also if Elon is trying to revive it I have very little hope for its success
0:28 Ah the good days of watching Thomas Sander when you get home from elementary school for hours on end
Love the new format, summarizing Atriocs recent videos lol
I wouldn’t pay $20 for verification, but NYT would pay for themselves and their journalists. I think that’s what he’s going for.
What he said, but In reality, he’s desperate to recoup losses. He’s grifting
@@dgjdtuvsth4051 except it's not $20/month, it's $8/mth
And so will the many fake bot/scam accounts. The entire point of the blue checkmark was to separate say, the real Ludwig twitter account from the dozen imposter ones. Now if all the imposter ones can also get a checkmark you've just kind of destroyed the purpose of verification checkmarks. Like the checkmark has always been just that, a way to differentiate a legitimate celebrity/political whatever twitter account from a fake one, not this weird "lord/peasant" shit Elon is talking about.
@@HH-le1vi 18*.
@@HH-le1vi doesn’t make their point wrong though
Pretty stupid of Elon Musk to buy twitter for $44 billion even though you can download it for free
This just doesn’t add up
havent heard that extremely original joke before
this is a good comment, keep going.
1:40, ooof that transition. So much for the one-take-andy.
I remember the video Ludwig asked us to check this channel out, he said you will give us storytimes but now its only drama. Congrats on 1m tho! 🎉🎉🎉
I don’t think people understand that it won’t be the same. The sequel will ruin they original, at worst people lose nostalgia for what they loved a decade ago and it dies off, at best it’s TikTok dances coming to vine
they don't get that if CZcams suddenly closed down tomorrow, then they'd grieve and cry too. If tiktok gets banned, then they'd compile all the best content and scream about how good it was. Like there was way more shitty stuff on vine too, there was a horde of content creators which were straight up cancerous on there.
Put it this way though, even if it’s the same content, I’d much rather have and use Vine rather than a TikTok, and having it as an actual competitor to TikTok seems like an interesting prospect
@@deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee6925 Problem. If and when vine just becomes tiktok 2.0 nobody will want to use it. The only people there will be is people trying to recreate vine humor amd failing... and hipsters.
@@PippyPopsSelfHarmMonica Vine, TikTok, CZcams, it's all about the People creating content which makes the vibe. You think Elon would compensate creators well enough to get them to switch? Create tools in-app to make editing+effects easy? Sink even a ton more money after he said he overpaid for Twitter. He's doing what he constantly does. Make huge promises he never really delivers on.
@@deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee6925 the platform doesn't matter, the creators do. Why go on Vine if everyone is on CZcams and TikTok now? It has nothing to offer now lol
I love the new zoom on yt i can now watch all your vids just only staring creepily straight in to your eyes on mobile
the best quote i've seen that encapsulates much of the internet's feelings on elon musk is this "i liked elon musk until i learned about elon musk"
Don't let those 1mil subs go to your head Mr. Mogul Mail... You wouldn't want to end up like Ludwig...
Imagine it: every time he hits one mil on a channel, the creator is canonically [expunged] before rising from the ashes into a new channel
That’s why he killed Ludwig
Or something else will go to his head
Yeah. Though neither want to be outed as someone with an opinion. Dude said it was great then suddenly changed the title of the vid to completely flip his opinion. Kinda pathetic imo.
Idk if vine could really survive nowadays man 😔
It's going to die on release unless they do something big.
Low attention span mean vine would be poppin
Why did Vine die, but Tiktok is successful if they're basically the same concept?
TikTok may eventually get banned in the US, there are legitimate concerns regarding cybersecurity when it comes to China. I can see a lot of creators congregating to Vine if this does occcur.
@@cornheadahh they're literally completely different apps dude
as much as it makes me happy that elon wants to revive vine, i dont think it would last long since tiktok kind of replaced vine
Ludwig news is the best segment dude!
Vine could have been as big as tiktok today if they just left it open and updated it, Twitter was really ran by idiots
Vine ended on a good note it doesn't need a new version
Died a hero, now well... You know the quote
I agree. I kind of "unironically" like Elon, but Vine should just stay in the grave... When you start bringing stuff back, because of "Muh Nostalgia" it always tends to fail. It was a great app, possibly one of the greatest apps ever created. Let's leave it at that and remember its greatness, and not forcefully try and bring it back. I will give Elon MASSIVE credit if he can bring it back, and it succeeds just as much as it did back in 2011. But I have loads of doubt.
these bots 😭😭
also yeah, i agree. i think that if vine comes back it’s just gonna be tiktok part 2, like all the content we wouldve gotten from vine if it didnt die is basically already on tiktok. Its all nostalgia bait
Why is it so hard for people to let good things rest, and not try to revive them. Vine is so liked and “missed” partly _because_ it’s dead. We only keep the good parts alive in our memories, and the bad parts faded away. Also, people really like the fact that you can’t go and see an original vine. Good vines feel like artifacts. If it’s brought back and widely available again, the nostalgia will disappear, and it won’t be any cooler than any other social media platform. There’s no point, and it’d ruin the almost universally positive reputation it has. Not to mention that our favorite vine creators have already settled into new forms on content, and the new creators who would’ve succeeded on vine are already on TikTok, getting paid for their content. What can Vine offer that another social media doesn’t?
@@crystalgemstv4609 tbh I thought vine was shit, a majority of vine 'stars' made me cringe so fucking hard. I have a passionate hate for "im in me mums car" girl. So annoying to me, idk
I need more Mogul Mail uploads
1:28 nice voice crack mr.mogul moves!
People seem to forget that Vine wasn't all that great in its last year of operation. A lot of ads plagued the platform. Plenty of idiotic trends popped up, same as Tik Tok. People like Lele Pons, Logan and Jake Paul were on the platform and went on to make some subpar content. Even then, I think people need longer form content than simply 6 seconds these days. Tik Tok culture may be cringy and stupid to follow, but Vine easily could've been the same. Twitter shut it down before short-form video services became immensely popular. Vine, if released today, will either be a watered-down form of Tik Tok, or something altogether entirely terrible. I can't tell now, but, with Musk at the helm, I already don't trust it.
Mogul Mail is just what I need, he gets to the point, gets all the details, and is entertaining all in the same video, and is on the way to beat Ludwig in sub count. Amazing
Congrat on 1mil!
shiit i camt wait for the video on the balls situation 💀
Vine vs Tiktok vs Shorts vs Reels vs the never ending cycle of short formed content
But we can never forget the Grandfather of all laughable shorts...
AFV... America's Funniest Home Videos
@@OffTarget is it still on air or did they cancel it?
@@senatorarmstrong2100 Yes it still airs. On May 13th, 2022. ABC renewed AFV for it's 33rd Season.
@@OffTarget and for the uk, i would say a show called "You've Been Framed" hosted and narrated by a guy called harry hill
Mogul Mail, I am so proud that you have decided to get rid of that Ludwig guy. He kept copying you and this was the best way to silence him.
My dude Mr Mail did a perfect Sykkuno impression in the outro
Ludwig’s attempt to get Elon to bring back vine
Congratulations on 1M Mogul Mail! You catching up to Ludwig, you guys look so alike 😂
Fax
Eh I don’t really see it.
Ludwig is dead Aware
It's crayZ
Congrats on 1 Million Mr. Mogul Mail.
Hope you can pass Ludwig someday!
@yes Amazing
I have watch two videos from this person, and both were clearly biased.
-Attacking against the source instead of proving that the evidence in that specific article was wrong, is a genetic logical fallacy.
-Media made the assumption that the Pelosi attacker was from side X just because he was anti-government. Well the side Y is also full of people who distrust the government, so this is no evidence at all. The attackers whole front side of the house is full of posters that very strongly indicate that he was on the side Y but this evidence is ignored by him and media.
-He clearly denies that there is censorship of truth in twitter before Elon.
-He hides that fact that the "non-radicals" are at least as radical as the other sides radicals, and the "radicals" violence is just the expected counter reaction of the other sides oppression and violence. Twitter allowed posts that caused the Christmas parade attack. Elon openly want to stop all radicalization, while the old twitter supported Mar ists liars.
Already did, stole his channel, mogul moves
1:44 hahahaha i spit my coffee
Wow Mogul Mail knows Brandon “Glizard Wizard” Atrioc Ewing, that’s so cool. I wonder if he knows Nathan Staniel
The most socially awkward people running the biggest social apps
Rare Mogul edit at 2:28
More like a cut, but still
sadly you didnt mention how some policy makers are considering banning tiktok in the US - if that were to happen, the likelihood of vine coming back would skyrocket to fill the void of tiktoks absence
Im so down for this. Tik toks algorithm is severely damaging free discourse in America. Our new generation is too 'woke' and closed minded when it comes to diversity of ideas
@@nestorv7627 Sane American? Rare sight nowadays.
@@Divinity_vA most people are sane here. You simply dont see it like that because social media (which is riddled with r*tards) skews your views of most americans
this man really love focusing on elon being a billionaire I think we already know that seeing HE BOUGHT TWITTER
everyone fr bouta be hittin the luddy on vine
One thing I notice with these videos is that Ludwig never takes a hard stance on anything. He could be saying something completely untrue, that he knows is untrue (he’s a smart ass dude), but give the take on account of it’s the popular thing to do. Expected a little more from Luddie. Ima keep watching regardless lol
Slime would agree
Ludwig who? This is the Mogul Mail channel
I wish the best of luck for mogul mail to handle this and ludwigs channel at once. Rest in piece ludwig 🙏.
ayyy 1 million subs
Could u turn mogul mail videos into a podcast? I love the short form news and I think it would be nice to be able to listen to the audio.
This really hits that marketing monday high that I crave so much
Vine killing TikTok would be the event of the decade.
It wont.
FRFR that voice crack at 1:27 just killed me FRFR
yooo i saw the cold ones podcast. that was nuts.
Makes sense to me. It's a bit of a stretch to say Vine was ahead of its time, but if they had stuck around for longer and made some changes to the platform they could've been a big player in the short form content arena
This video kinda feels like a shot for shot remake of Atrioc's at the start
Ludwig’s attempts of a marketing Monday
Can we talk about how amazing it is that Lud’s managed to make two different channels with a completely different format and focus yet managed to accrue just as much of a following? Out of the channels I watch the only other person I’ve noticed manage to do that is Kwite, so bit impressed on my end.
the glizzard wizard spreading wisdom and glizzies as always
cant believe mogul mail is gonna start streaming, cant wait!
Probably gonna be on twitch
Also holy crap so many bots
He already did a couple streams of pogostuck
Bro called it
Grats for the 1million subs Mogul
Vine will never work in the modern world, The 6 second videos only allowed you to make "funny = random" videos and the Vines that you laugh at are the ones you've already seen 100 times and you're only laughing because you have good memories of it. Tik Tok works because you can use any song you want to make your joke/dance/meme/whatever you're doing. Vine is just your voice and 6 seconds. Tik Tok can do that already. Vine has no purpose in the modern world and 'Vine humour' won't make a comeback just because Vine did, Because if it ever was going to come back then it would've came back on Tik Tok
It’s so strange looking at Elon Musk buying Twitter when it’s only some months until Digital Marcets Act and Digital Service Act go into effect for socialmedia platforms.
likely ahead of the game on that, I'd bet... probably gonna see big changes for that on Twitter, but tbh twitter never gave me many ads anyways
Vine is an archive of a peaceful and slightly cringier time. Tik Tok is like a drug addiction or a parasite the burrows into your brain. You hate it, it's bad for you, but you can't stop. I don't want that to happen to my poor Vine.
Let it Rest in Peace.
you should bring back two take jake. I liked his editing style
My world view is corrupt, because I had no idea pinterest had more users than twitter. Felt like that was a thing of the past, or just for my mom to find craft things
“look at all these moguls”
Wow so committed to the one take Jake he left the voice crack in
Vine was just the early tiktok. It had that wow factor that was incredible when introduced but now we are used to it.
Haven't watched it yet but I'm guessing that Vine is coming back.
Hurry up and sum up this video I’m about to sleep
an alternative short-video platform that won't monitor my phone to the point it can read my clipboard and call history?
sign me up
I can't remember the last time I actually saw a jump cut in Mogul Mail 2:28
Great vid Mogul Mail hope you let lud stream again so he can beat pogostuck as he’s the legend, anyways keep up the good content :)
How will Ludwig stream again?
Elon Musk claimed he'd have humans on Mars a decade ago, there ain't no way he's competent enough to resurrect Vine
Did you just say bringing back a social media app is harder than literal rocket science..
Your arguments are weak, just like Moguls arguments
@@zani6610
No, I'm saying that Elon Musk is an incompetent fool who can't stick to his guns.
@@HobbesHobbiton of all the issues with getting people to mars, determination is not one of them.
Can’t believe that mogul mail knows the glizzard wizard
3:43 Mogul Mail doing his best Marketing Monday
@Ludwigs 🅥 omg mr Ludwigs V?
Elon musk waking up after 1 hour of sleep to do shit noone asked for:
Lol you are delusional. Elon doesn't even spend 5% of his time on twitter
@@cfvgd Lol you are illiterate. No one ever said anything about a time percentage used on Twitter.
@@cfvgd ok
@@cfvgd cap
@@armin7321 truth
love the shirt mogul mail
mans saving comedy i legit clapped with you omg
vine is most definitely gonna fail if it comes back😊
😐
Vine is like the skype of short videos.
@Mogul Mail 🅥 no way real mogul mail :/
I think vine could be good if they keep it strictly to that 7 second format (or maybe like 15 seconds, 7 is nothing) for 1) being kinda like Twitter and therefore appropriate, and 2) being easy to make content for. To deal with the people that reupload long videos in 3728 part series, maybe just take them to a Twitter post of the full video or possibly have a rule against it because it's so annoying. That said, it's very hard to monetize and they'll probably become a tiktok clone anyway, but it's a nice thought that maybe it could be the viral video generator that tiktok is, without the cringe of tiktok's dance based past or stolen content based present. Alternate slightly crazy idea, only allow videos taken by the camera, and allow subtle edits like tiktok or yt shorts. I don't mind high effort content but it's worth the sacrifice to get rid of Reddit text to speech or gameplay vid + satisfying vid, or blatantly stolen content
Congrats to 1 million
never been so hyped on a video istg i hope vine is actually coming back dude
Won't be the same tho, all the TikTok trends will just have a new place to try and mooch clout from
We wont be able to replicate vine humor as a generation anymore.
1 Million subs and 2 smooth balls...
What more could we ask for?
this is wild to me, elongated muskrat is basically a 4 chan shitposter except he's also a bilionare
Don’t really want Elon to bring Vine back, I don’t trust him to make it a decent app based on his plans for Twitter
I find it funny how ludwig thinks Twitter was an open square of communication lmao
glizard wizard, sounds like king gizzard and the lizard wizard
mogul mail and charlie should have a collab fr fr
Wow, did he just say he was “okay with people knowing he is Ludwig Ahgren” not just did he kill Lud, but he’s trying to steal his identity. Not cool man