This is the worst apology video of all time
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She could've posted a 3 second video saying "nuh uh" and it would've been less insensitive to the victims
nuh-uh💀
That kind of “apology” would certainly do less damage than whatever the fuck she called this shit
@@Aniwareyuh uh…
hehehehehehe i’m chuckling 😂😂😂
Ignore my goofy ahh laugh 💀
IT'S INSANE how the Sienna Mae apology could be topped 💀
Honestly did not think it was possible, but sure enough here we are
Those people who make apology tier lists are gonna have to make a whole new tiers for this shit
I still think she is way worse
@@castaway312 Yeah, that one was *way* worse.
It’s crazy the sienna may is all forgiven for that
If you're in your 30s and feel like you're still "like" a 14 year old, that's a great thing to bring up in therapy. Not to actual teenagers.
I've never understood this "justification" either... I feel like I'm not a very mature person and can act child-like and I like some things made for teens but I still don't hang out with kids?? I hang out with other adults like me??? There's tons of adults out there who are like that.
Exactly! Nobody would have an issue if she wanted to express her childlike personality by hanging with a bunch of people in their mid to late 20s who still acted like high schoolers.
@@CrystalRosebudright I literally collect toys and other things targeted for kids and you know who I talk about those interests w? OTHER ADULTS who also like collecting toys! The internet has been around for a long enough time that she knows she doesn’t have to talk to minors to to find other ppl who she can talk to lol
This. I am going to be 18 in a year and I still feel like im just turning 13. Only difference is I dont use this as an excuse for my shitty behvaiors!!
Colleen is a queen.
She followed the top four steps to a perfect apology:
1.) Diffuse responsibility
2.) Use ambiguous language ("mistakes were made")
3.) Blame others for calling her out
4.) Don't apologize
“You don’t like me punching you in the face? Well maybe don’t leave your face where I want to put my fist.”
Don't forget 5: hitting that 10 minute mark to maximize profiting off your bullshit
It’s not appropriate to call this an “apology video” because she didn’t apologize, it’s more like a “idonthavetoapoligizeforshit video”
Even worse it's an 🎶ididabsolutelynothingwrong🎶 video.
a video response.
She should have just posted the "I didn't do SHIT!" meme going around and called it a day.
... here and charlies video.. man you lookin for every one of these videos and commenting? Lol
@@mittens2773 You're reading the comments on the same video on two channels. Not exactly the high ground you got there.
her PR team is probably losing it rn.
I dont think she has one and thats what caused this
@@notyarrsshe does have one and they told her not to respond (she said this in her “apology.”)
There is no PR team, how did you think this happened?
probably quitting because she won't listen to them
@@notyarrsshe said that her team told her not to talk about this so she might have had one but probably not anymore.
Ludwig is definitely either downplaying this stuff on purpose to avoid drama or he really doesn't grasp how toxic Colleen was to these children, and how her family is predatory to her fans as well.
Yeah because he didnt meantion the fact she sent LINGERIE, would have boys stick down her pants to get cheeseballs, ask kids if they got their periods, and shit like that. It's downplaying the severity of it by a lot.
@@Weeniehutnurse Also the way he covered the "fart joke" thing did not do it justice to how violating and inappropriate that was to do to a young girl. She was harassed by men as she left the venue and felt unsafe as she couldn't tell if she had been exposed to the crowd
I don’t think he’s downplaying it. I feel this mogel mail is kind of a small summary of what’s goin on. Bc if I wanted to go in-depth to see what is actually going on, I would do the research myself or simply read the comments. I didn’t even hear about this until this video.
Mogul Mail gives you the what is happening and leaves the research to the viewers. Who the fuck is ludwig
@@Chickachoochoo I mean he did say we dont give a fuck after the hour and is just for laughs and entertainment of drama he could've just said there's a lot channels informing you you can watch them but here im just going talk about this ridiculous apology video and do a quick summary of what happened. You sounded like he didn't give a fuck.
Imagine singing an apology video about grooming kids in A minor.
💀
😭😭😭
Bro she was even grooming the strings on the ukulele
this joke is getting old. it's clearly in major lol
lol to be fair she's playing in G major
colleen: reaches for the camera to end the video
colleen: realizes the video isn't at 10 minutes yet
colleen: *freestyle rants*
LMFAO nah cause that’s literally this like????
pretty sure you only need 8 minutes for ads these days lol
This groomer thinks she is Rebecca Sugar...
No, you can see her reading the lyrics, so that Pause was def planned!!
@@irraplaaceable that’s even worse imo 😭
It’s just insane to me how she acts like these are just “silly rumors,” but she’s literally being accused of grooming and sexual harassment. Not exactly something to take lightly lmao
not even just accused it was proven multiple times and she still did this shit 😭😭😭🙏
and she does absolutely nothing to support her claim either, just fucking reiterates the same point over and over. the supposed 'rumours' being made about her have way more valid evidence to support the fact that she is in fact a predatory weirdo.
you'd think youtubers or content creators would nail how to do apologies by now, with how many god damn examples there have been, but no. she literally had sienna mae as an example for why trying to do something 'artsy and quirky' for your apology is just gonna get you crucified by the world (rightfully so), and yet she still thought this was a good idea? what an actual, legitimate, clown.
there is also PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE
She basically admitted to it but just doesnt want to call it what it is
fr the way she’s acting is like there’s just some silly gossip about her being rude about friends behind their backs or something 💀 girl ur a groomer..
She really did the change the apology game with this. I want the next batch of apologies to be musical.
SHE BLAMES US THE ENTIRE TIME LIKE EVERYTHING SHES DONE IS OUR FAULT
The way she bounces from "its all lies" to "it wasn't so bad" to "I did it and I feel bad and wont do it again". The real message is just "I'm the real victim, feel bad for me, the real bad people are the people I abused who are clout chasers, and their parents who should have known not to trust me with their kids"
"I only made a mistake! and then I made it again... and again, and again, and a few times after that... then again-"
"Why won't anyone value my human element 😢"
100%
Goes from “It’s gossip”, to “It was just a mistake we all make mistakes,” to “I won’t do it again.”
It’s the narcissists prayer.
“That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.”
The Narcissists Prayer:
That didn't happen
And if it did, it wasn't that bad;
And if it was, it wasn't a big deal;
And if it is, it wasn't my fault;
And if it was, I didn't mean it;
And if I did, you deserved it.
i want to hear about her husband now.
DARVO in a nutshell
(Deny, Attack, Reverse roles of Victim & Offender)
Colleen was so much weirder than what was said here. She mailed her lingerie to Adam when he was 13. She not only asked her young viewers if they were virgins, but asked them what their favorite "position" is. She even was getting advice on how she should approach her husband at the time for some head. Like- what the actual fuck?
She needs adult friends wtf...jk they probably ditched her because she's so immature she has to try to hang out with teens. Ew
I am sickened
I know it's a cliche to be surprised when a CZcamsr's skeletons pop out of the closet as if they could've never done anything like this because they seem so "innocent," but this actually hit me like an Aerocuda eyeball to the side of my face. Like how hard is it to just not engage with underaged fans? Literally requires no effort.
@@naught_. I had a similar feeling with the Ned from Try Guys scandal. I watched them since they were still with Buzzfeed, and when they said he cheated, I honestly thought it was on an online game or with fantasy football or something like that. Him cheating on his wife was the absolute last thought that passed my mind. It feels terrible when people we grew up watching ended up being complete assholes.
yeah ong throws you for a big loop
She’s even done creepy stuff during her shows when calling up kids to be on-stage. She told one boy to grab a cheese ball from the inside of her pants 💀
Would've honestly been a banging apology video, if what she did was _actually_ a small mistake
Calling this an "apology" video is really nice of you Ludwig 💀
an apology video at this point is just not anything like an apology
like bro they even got the music genre on these apology videos now god damnn
He should listen to slime and stop being so NICE on his Mogul Mails. The H3 podcast did a better job talking about this (tho they talked about it for way longer)
Who's ludwig this is mogulmail
Ludwig is too kind.
1 GREAT THING about this situation.... Her kids have had 3 whole weeks of NO CAMERAS in their faces!!! First time ever in their lives. Thats beautiful 🥰
my only hope is that she’s bullied off of the internet for good and her kids never have to deal with that again
@@alyssareed3666 Amen to that, Sista! 👍🙏💘
@@alyssareed3666I hope her kids don't get bullied for this
@@atinyhorse1455 her kids are really young, if she gets offline forever and never shows them again I'm pretty sure it'll be fine. That is a valid concern tho, those kids deserve better.
Holy fuck she has kids???
I like how in the entire "apology" video she did, she never proved a single thing from the accusations to be wrong at all and just sang about how its all "toxic gossip and lies" and that without any evidence that it is. She definitely did NOT do it in a single take whatsoever, so she went through multiple takes and went to post it and SOMEHOW didn't think to address why the claims against her were false the entire time.
the worst part is when she stars gaslightling like "sorry mr.perfect im SURE you,ve never made these mistakes before" like no its kinda hard to make the mistakes you,ve made
The grooming her persian cat line was one of the worst responses I have EVER heard in my 21 years of living on Earth.
Like you’d think she would realize that going the Shane Dawson route isn’t it…
What in the Shane Dawson….
She's not wrong, she shoved her cat down her pants...
Copied Comment, be original bro
and we live on the same planet as shane dawson which makes it even worse
The craziest part is that lud didn’t even touch on the weird sexual shit she would say/do. Sending her underage male fan her bra and underwear, asking a bunch of teens what their favorite sex position is, asking all of them to send pics of them with tampons in their mouths. It gets so much weirder. And the fact that her brother groomed a fan as well
What do you expect? I literally had a coworker who said he would HELP HIS SON DONIT WITH HIS TEACHER ONLY IF SHE WAS HOT
nobody cares about men being assaulted by women.
him*
She also joked about how she got her dog put down as a child. Showing zero actual remorse. "So I murdered a dog!" 😀❤️
She murdered her dog. Thats what she kept saying in her story, her dog, her dog. But at the end it was i murdered "a" dog.
She's an actual sociopath that's why she's done all these things she's disassociated with reality.
Wait her brother? I thought it was Cory,
@@chantaleliza2902 she has 2
Love your commentary on parasocial relationships between creators and viewers. It’s just not normal for someone in their 30s to want to strike up an intimate friendship with teenagers. It’s dangerous and wrong. Glad to see you having such a no nonsense take on this issue
she simultaneously admits to it but also denies it, very interesting
Not only did she make fun of the victims, but she kept denying everything while saying that, "People should take accountability,." I CANT WITH THE HYPOCRICY.
"I'm cool with holding *other people* accountable, but will absolutely shame the shit out of you and send my fans to harass you for calling me out on my shit"
yeah but its funny asf
In no way defending Colleen and its not exactly the same but hasn't Ludwig on his livestreams often talked about goofy ass masturbation stories and shit like that. Just seems like another example of people holding women to higher standards than men.
@@WindReiter10 talking to your audience as an entity that happens to contain a lot of u18s and being in a groupchat with specific kids is very different
I think I missed the part of the video where Ludwig covered victims, who'd she groom/sexually exploit? (I'm a 12 year old boy, so don't reply, or imma report to FBI)
i think she wanted to go the crazy route so people would focus on how insane the apology video is and not how insane she was actually acting with her fans who were children
I genuinely believe this.
Yeah it’s kinda genius tbh
100%
Not buying that quirky aspect of that... whatever that was because the most unsettling part of her body language: her eyes barely blinked and her entire face was like a mask. The only time she had some reaction, was at the end.
@@amandaanstett6973 wnfjs in
it's so much worse considering what she's "apologizing" for
This is not just drama... when it involves kids, it's not something people should just forget about.
I think her strategy was to make an apology video so cringe you couldn't finish it and just forgot about the original controversy
thats the current adam22 strat
@@BrandSolutionsWhat?
@@Oogwayne eh could be chat gpt
@@OogwayneI think they just busted out chat gpt to write that comment or something
@@BrandSolutions LOL YOU SPEND TOO MUCH ON THE INTERNET
its not an apology video. she is intentionally saying she isn't sorry and is belittling her victims
Yep!
Sending your used panties to children isn’t a fucking mistake. Asking to see ass pictures of children, is not a mistake. Spreading a minors legs while they have a skirt on, and assumedly looking at their underwear, on stage, then embarrassing them with fart noises, isn’t a mistake. *(Seriously.. there couldn’t have been a planted audience member for that? Instead she had to call a random girl up, spread her legs, look at her underwear, and embarrass her in front of everyone?)* None of this shit is a mistake. It’s grooming.
And I love how she says it’s a gossip train and untrue, then says she made a mistake THEN says no one can criticize her because we’ve all made mistakes. My mistakes are shit like… accidentally hitting my dog with the door, misinterpreting something my partner said and getting unnecessarily upset, and so on. Even my ‘bad’ mistakes are NOTHING compared to grooming.
And as someone that was groomed, her continuously downplaying what she did is fucking disgusting. I was 100% groomed. I’ve never had a single person argue I wasn’t. And it’s already hard enough to come to terms with and accept. Can you imagine how hard it might be to have THOUSANDS of people, INCLUDING YOUR GROOMER, doing this “nuh uh!” bullshit?
What victims? She seems weird but I don’t think she did anything terrible
@DirtyRandy100 well there's the children she made uncomfortable at the time, and all the fans that feel betrayed by her predatory actions towards said children. She was quite literally asking 13 year olds their favourite sex positions
@@DirtyRandy100the way she behaved towards her underage fans, letting them get close to her and acting like she was their "friend", only to bring up weird topics like sex and wanting to see them in sexual positions... you don't think that has the potential to fuck with the mind of a child?
@@DirtyRandy100 Dude, maybe look up the things she's accused of before commenting.
she probably played that ukulele in A Minor 💀💀
I am going to hell.
thank u for this twitch man i was about to watch that one 3h video abt it but now my curiosity is satisfied
she almost ended the video but realized she didn't reach the 10 min mark for monetization yet 💀💀
One of the biggest things that jumped out at me lol I'm surprised Lud didn't mention it, especially since he took the time to talk about the pause
I thought the 10 minutes wasnt a thing anymore. Cant you already run mid rolls from like 8 minutes now?
@@k_Whyyes you can
Even if she didn't groom anyone, a 33 year old woman going to a group chat filled with her underage fans to then vent and complain to children that literally worship the ground she walks on is so weird.
And ask them about their sex lives and talk about her own...
@@loganmadson5465Also, she asked for butt pics.
Best case interpretation is that she's in some kind of arrested development and never really matured, I guess. Worst case is that she thinks her fans are stupid and easily manipulated, and she takes advantage of that in many ways.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 I personally think it's def worst case interpretation since she allegedly also 1) had Adam McIntyre work for her for free and 2) made kids do some weird stuff at her shows (taking advantage of their admiration towards her and manipulating them into doing thing they'd never do otherwise) Instead of real material. I don't think having a teen in a short romper spread her legs in front of everyone is crowd work... if it is, it shouldn't be.
@@SisselSashaalso she took her brother on tour when he’s a legit pedo who was trying to groom a 14 year old
And she'd get kids to put a tampon in their mouth and send photos. H3 does a good slideshow about it.
Seriously tho, first we have Sienna’s interprative dancing, and now we have Colleen’s ukulele playing and singing. Bet the next one will be a twitch streamer making an "apology" by performing a whole Shakespearean play.
now she gotta do a second apology video for her apology video.
Ludwig didn't even touch on the spicy stuffs...
She was doing really creepy stuff like sending fans her used underwear, and asking teenagers what they like in bed and what not...
This woman is nuts, and it's a little more than an "Oops! I am human! My bad!"
I'm human, I make mistakes, however, sexualizing a bunch of kids would never be one of those mistakes...
That's like saying, "Ah, damn! I have bipolar, that's why I murdered my ex! Don't you guys understand?! It was a mistake!"
I hate when people play off like "Oh, I couldn't help it, it's my personality!" or "That's how I am, you can't be who you're not!"
What? A child molester?! Like, holy hell! If you can't not be a child molester, you need to get some help! Like stat! ASAP! Right now!
She also made a little girl reach into the front her pants, made a little girl reenact pregnancy and said kids are fertile, I'm pretty sure there's more
Jfc, I thought the comment asking for pics was enough
and these type of ppl are the ones making "kid's content" imma throw up now. its utterly disgusting
I can't stand when literal criminals have the gall to go, "Oh well, I guess the rest of you are just PERFECT and NEVER make mistakes!" Like, yes, we ALL make mistakes, we just don't ALL prey on children. I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, never sexualized a child though. So in that aspect, yeah, I consider myself better than her. Her video gave me the impression she was more bothered by people looking down on her, like she was offended by that more than anything.
@@drby163please tell me you’re joking 😭
Also the 16 year old girl who had to spread her legs on stage was specifically wearing a dress and was afraid of her body being shown to an entire audience of people and detailed the fear she had leaving the venue because grown men were looking at her in a specific way that made her question her safety
Literally wtf
yup this ain a shit for funs and giggles and to make fun of the apology this is fucking weird
COLLEEN NO!! PLAYING A MINOR IS WHAT GOT YOU IN TORUBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE
BROOOOO YOU GOT ME DEAD WITH THIS ONE
SOBBING
If lud ever makes an apology, he definitely has to include an Ukulele
IT WAS SOOOOO BAD.. i don't understand what went off in her brain to make her think the best way to address extremely serious allegations.....was THROUGH A SOOOOOONNNNGGGGG
enough hubris to outdo ancient greek heroes probably.
The song itself slapped imo
@@benkei8577you must listen to garbage artists if you think this “slapped”
@@benkei8577it was like one chord dude
Giving me Sienna Mae Gomez levels of tone deafness…
The funny thing is, if she had addressed the situation *privately* like Adam asked, this would’ve ended two years ago before anything incriminating came out.
No it wouldn’t cuz the Gay kid just wanted to end her reputation cuz he is a petty gay kid.
The fact that he was showing text messages completely out of context shows he had bad intent to make her look bad even though he NEVER had a problem with her until he fkd up in the tweet he sent on her behalf.
Her only guilt was over sharing with a gay KID, Kids tend to leak things and spread or overblow lies about adults and if you are Gay… even worst cuz you will always look like a victim. He is a fkn hypocrite in my book. I read the entire report and watch the videos, he is trying to make her look like her intentions were different.
She was naive by trusting her personal life to a group of fans that in their majority are still kids even though NONE of them act like it and they are not stup!d.
Power house. No everything you said is bs. This woman named cody came out and that's why this blew up. You're hating adam for being gay and sassy. That doesn't take away anything.
It's not just Adam btw. It's numerous victims.
Also wow. You obviously didn't watch the story from adams perspective and watched papa gut or something. Because your comment is utter and total bs.. you're acting like kids should've known better and treating Adam like shit because he's gay which is homophobic.
Colleebs brother is very predatory also. Maybe you should look at where you're getting your information from and maybe also think about why you're taking away what you are because it's not normal to blame kids. Kids are kids for a reason. And if a kid is acting more adult like that means they've been forced to grow up by truama.
@@powerhouse884holy shit. Why are you so obsessed with this person's sexuality?
@@FukaiKokoro I don’t hate him, clearly him being Gay is an excuse for many people to see him in a way that can’t be judge. It’s pure BS and he is a hypocrite. Its his motive that bothers me cuz its so obvious he had bad intentions to ruin her spreading lies and things out of context.
Sienna Mae: I’m gonna have the worst apology video to ever exist
Colleen: Hold my ukulele
The dead no emotion stare into the camera sells it too as an apology video 😂
Lud i don’t think you gave enough context to how she was interacting with these minors. who were generally around the age of 12. During her tours she would invite boys on stage & have them stick their hands in her pants to grab cheese balls. While being recorded , in front of hundreds of people. She was the one who created those groupchats involving minors. And asked them wildly inappropriate questions like their favorite sex positions. Asking 11 year olds their favorite sex position. Seriously. There’s so much more vile shit she’s done…. It’s not even just a case of being too close to her fans & not being aware of boundaries. But she was preying on these kids who admired her for her sick advantage !! It’s despicable the amount of damage & trauma she’s caused so many children that are now able to realize in hindsight as they grow older.
For real. It's obvious by how he was like people only care about the drama when this is horrible behavior and people absolutely do care. I wish he at least tried looking into it more than 2 seconds
I was wondering why he didn't mention any if this 🫣
I’m genuinely surprised his fan base let him get away with this. He shouldn’t have touched it if he was gonna be this half assed and insensitive
Chris Hanson needs to make her take a seat
I'm glad someone else feels this way! If you already know the more serious details, then this video felt like Ludwig was protecting her. I'm sure that's not his intention, but he went way too soft on her.
In what world would anyone think singing in response to grooming allegations would be the best thing to do?
She really shouldve listened to her management team.
Man youre being real breakdown about digging into the drama was solid. A very important thing to talk about. I also in some ways agree with Ukelele Girl's point of humans make mistakes...that isn't to say I'm defending her, I havent even finished the video and what the hell she did yet overall. Of course the severity and type of what happened changes things a lot. I just wanted to agree with you being honest about getting into gossip.
Edit: Aight I finished the video and wow. Along with the whole shipping panties thing, wow.
i love how she reaches for the camera to stop recording and then SUDDENLY DECIDES on the encore like girl you wrote that first and then decided to be weird about it
Congratulations, Colleen! You’ve officially made it to the Bad Apology Hall of Fame! You’re up there among the best: Logan Paul, Shane Dawson and Sienna Mae 👐
I honestly think Logan Pauls apology wasn’t that bad
@@gd_gd_gd_gd🥸
Travis Scott
@@blcklst_cairoThat one was definitely atrocious
@@gd_gd_gd_gd clown
We thought we hit rock bottom when they stopped apologising in their apology videos. But really, it was truly just the tip of the ice berg.
I'm so glad this video was made cause I watched the apology video yesterday and was really confused on what was going on lol.
CZcams apology videos will never fail to baffle me in its insanity
If I had a nickel everytime a female influencer had sexual misconduct "apologized" with a literal performance blaming the haters. I'd have 2 nickels. Which is not a lot but weird it happened twice.
Women
Lmao this is an under rated comment
there wouldn't be enough nickels in the world for every time someone has made this low effort formulaic reddit spec comment
It's probably happened a lot more. But the people it's happened to prob have stary eyes and don't actually think about how bad it is
tbf all the other videos like james charles apology is also a peformance. They're acting like they care only because they've been called out for it.
Unfortunately you didn't get in to some of the worst screenshots. I believe Colleen was also asking the group chat if they were virgins, and sent a video of her putting a tampon in her mouth asking if the members of the group chat could remake it and send it to her?
oh yeah the worst ones I saw were ones where the kids would be having normal conversations for people their age and Colleen would chime in out of nowhere and ask about their virginity or something else extremely inappropriate, insane how she tries to write that off as just her wanting friends
I can go my entire lifetime without ever knowing a youtubers existence even IF they make an apology video. and the fact colleen's 'apology' video was SO BAD that even I got to know about It Is an achievement
ok but she got some bars. like what a joke apology its crazy i cant believe she did this but “manipulation station” goes hard. its sooooo funny. and she acted like that last part was improv but we all know that was all planned.
Lol it's very catchy 😂
8:54 Ludwig described this very generally, but hearing that girl describe the experience on tiktok, it was truly disgusting. she was wearing iirc either a dress or a loose-fitting romper shorts with spandex underneath. when Colleen spread her legs, she felt exposed, and was afraid that the spandex became see-through & that Colleen could see everything. she said the image of Colleen standing over her & smirking haunted her. she said that this gave her the same icky, wanna-crawl-out-of-my-skin feeling that she got when she was SA'd by someone years later. she said that when she left the show, a lot of men were then looking at her in ways that made her feel unsafe & that wasn't happening before she got on stage for that bit. this was violating and could've been a dangerous experience for her, not just mild discomfort or weirdness.
That's so effed omg
That is such a weird thing to have in their show, couldve just had their friend or something do it instead. Did she know that that was going to happen before she went up on stage?
How something makes somebody feel is entirely irrelevant to whether it's bad or not, or more specifically how bad it is. To an outside observer, what happened was that a young girl was asked to spread her legs in front of a crowd of people. That's the only part that should be discussed because what goes on inside your head isn't the fault of other people.
@@jamesmccomb9525You have no idea what you are talking about. What goes on in your head while it is being affected by someone else, leaving negative results for you, or behaviors you didn't have before that benefit the perp IS grooming and, more often, abuse. Both of which very quickly, and in Colleen's case, likely will, lead to criminal charges.
Just to reiterate why you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The difference between a 1st and 2nd degree murder charge is premeditation. What is premeditation? The act of thinking out or planning, usually in relation to a crime. In other words, what led someone to do what they did. This would include: How was this defendant affected mentally by the victim or victims? What was the defendant doing to the victim(s) mentally before the crime? What was the defendant's relationship with the victim(s) like? And the list continues. Again, in other words, how people were feeling and thinking. Thoughts and feelings (motive) are some of the strongest factors in criminal cases and allegations in general.
I should add, and I thought it should just go without saying: We are talking about a situation in which a 33-year old woman brought a 16-year old girl on stage and spread her vagina on stage in front of who knows how many. In a room alone with the two of them, we would call that predation/pedophilia borderline at the least. On stage? Arguably sicker. That all is without mentioning the physical evidence, not accusations, evidence of this 33-year old adult woman, Colleen Ballinger, asking children as young as 12 to send her pictures of their ass, or when they lost their virginity, or to send her pictures of them with tampons in their mouth. Just normal stuff Colleen Ballinger does. The person you're defending.
I have to assume a lot of this will be lost on you as I'm likely currently arguing with the demographic that Colleen Ballinger salivates over.
So, TL;DR: Child predation not good. Feelings do, in fact, matter. You seem lost. Have a good summer break.
Deserved
I hope she’s held accountable to the same level as male predators. Especially since she just spit in all of our faces while playing a ukulele.
shes gonna get the same treatment as any other male youtube predator, walk free without any real consequences (like shane dawson, onision, edp445)
lmao
@@Brian-wx4ig nah edp445 got hit HARD, he was followed for months and was made sure he was known as a predator, honestly surprised he didnt get any charges
James charles? Andrew tate? Edp? How about preds in general
Nah shes not gonna get charged. Best case scenario is her career is completely ruined and everyone knowing shes a predator
1:45. all those open tabs are gonna give someone watching this a panic attack...
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I loved the disclaimer at the front end Lud. Too accurate
Two things people don't really focus on about this situation that I think are really important are:
1) She actively weaponized her audience of minors to online bully and investigate people who were critical of her.
and
2) She would talk about her husband's dick size, thirst after her director, and chat about dildos in a group chat of minors. That's more than a little inappropriate.
What the actual fuck
HER HUSBANDS WHAT WITH WHO ??? thats fucked up
@@woahlaceroh it gets so much worse than that. Discussing these things with kids as young as 13, too.
she also sent adam her underwear and gaslit him for literal years about everything. there are also videos of her getting an 8(9?) year old kid to stick his hands down her pants, and another of her opening up a (maybe 13-14 yr old) female fan's legs (while the fan was wearing a dress + lying with their back on the floor). she also asked about the fan's favourite sex positions, things about their first periods, and "jokingly" asked adam for pics of his ass
Is she still married?
It honestly makes me believe the allegations even more with her showing how seriously she doesn’t take grooming allegations
I love watching the mogul mail, charlie, mudahaar, and pyro videos all back to back on the same exact topic
@5:00 I love that. Thank you for being so real lmao. I see something crazy and say, Imma let myself be a lil dirtbag for 15 minutes.
Im a mother and I have 7 kids. 6 of which watch you tube. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for not only bringing Colleen to my attention but also for the “I am not your friend” video… which I am having my youngest two watch today. I can not say thank you enough. Especially for breaking everything down the way you did. Im 40 and have no business asking kids for pics or their relationship status. And neither does Colleen. That’s not only weird but disgusting. Idk who she is but she’s being blocked on my account and my kids account as well. Thank you ❤
One of my favourite creators likes to say, "You don't love me, you love the idea of me." I think that's a solid foundation to build your parasocial relationships around: straight to the point, but very eye-opening.
Definitely a stunt of an apology to go viral. Further solidifies how terrible she really is.
She is not terrible, she is incredibly naive.
People need to grow up and learn the difference.
@@powerhouse884 Asking children what their favorite sex position is, is not naive. It's fucking creepy.
@@powerhouse884you're just uneducated on her so far, making you naive actually.
She's a sociopath. She made a joke out of getting her dog put down when she was a child. She was stressed one day and dug her nails hard enough into her dog to where her dog bit her in the face. She lied as a child and said i dunno the dog attacked me for no reason!
Which, i can forgive a child if when the child grows up and shows remorse.
But she herself said all this as if it was a funny joke, ends with: "So I murdered a dog! 😀❤️"
Nah. She murdered HER dog.
She has a scary disassociation with reality and as narcissist craving attention a lack of accountability across the board.
@@bigtoblerone8446 OMG i read a TEXT message in my own head making it sound horrible. She is such a horrible person for thinking that when she was a KID. OMG…… well then i guess these kids are just as bad as she was aren’t they? Lol
@@chase5436 Yeah i am sure they are innocent kids who don’t talk about any of that. Yeah, talking is such a crime. She was there to violate them an make stuff to all of them right….She was not naive at all, just a pervert and the poor poor kids are all innocent. She made them do it. 🙄
i watched it all yesterday and it was all wild. adam’s response was golden as well. its crazy watching youtube history go down in real time
Just crying inside at Lud calling himself old as shit while being here in all my 32 yrs old glory :')
I hate to bring up gender but truly, if this was a male CZcamsr sending underage fans lingerie, asking personal questions in group chats with more underaged fans, using a fan to basically work as a social media assistant under the guise of being “friends” and promising to meet up (just to name only some of it), he would’ve been gone in a second. the fact that it’s been debated for the last three years (bc btw, she asked another fan to attack once the first allegations came forth), is a little wild.
if this is a male youtuber doing this he'd still be in a business. look at James Charles and what he's done, and he is launching a fucking business. don't bring gender into this. this isn't a matter of gender, it is a matter of grooming.
A little wild is a huge understatement. It's such a sad double standard that exists. Women get away with shit men get scalped for in today's society
"i hate to bring up gender" okay, so don't? wtf
Hasn't that Minecraft CZcamsr called Dream been accused of almost all the things you mentioned for years? (minus the lingerie). He's just one example. Men get away more with this type of stuff, imo.
@scott--1629 it means it sucks to have to talk about these things and why it exists. It's not that weird if a thing to say
Also worth mentioning her brother was being extremely weird and creepy to her young fans talking to them when they were 13 and Colleen did nothing to stop it. She also asked her fans about their sex lives and if they had their periods yet. It's wasn't quite as innocent as just trauma dumping about divorce.
I’ve always hated my name being miranda, because of her. People in school used to bully me about it, and it always made me uncomfortable, because she gave me weird vibes. I’m glad I’m not the only one who gets weird vibes from her content, i would watch her collabs and be kinda disgusted. The things she would say, the things she would do, just felt surreal. I didn’t want to be connected to that at all. It honestly made me feel like sh:t because I couldn’t change my name, and I would always be connected to her.
you know its bad when mogul mail hops in
I am so fking tired of ytubers saying “mIsiNfOrmAtiOn” to excuse their heinous actions. Maybe her mistakes don’t make her a horrible person but her inability to take responsibility and apologize to her victims definitely does
I have known about and followed this situation since Adam’s first video. I am beyond floored that she actually pulled out a ukulele and basically told everyone to F off because she did nothing wrong. She might’ve actually lost her entire mind.
How tone deaf. If this was a publicity stunt to distract from the actual accusations it wouldn’t surprise me. I think it’s so important that we as a community remember what she’s being accused of, because right now people are having that gut reaction of “she didn’t even apologise and she sung in the video” the video seemed like it could’ve been a response to allegations of racism, not predatory behaviour towards children. That way she plays it off like “a mistake from the past” is so very ick
Its the fact I used to look up to her is crazy.
That would be a mental breakdown
She made Adam, a teenager, feel absolutely guilt ridden over the response to that tweet, despite the fact that she had final say on everything and approved everything and the fact that she shouldn’t of been having a teenager running her account for free. She absolutely manipulated him into feeling like he had ruined her career. And then she sent a group of her fans dig up dirt on him and smear him when she knew she couldn’t attack him personally.
Ohhh no a teenager had their feelings hurt because they fucked up... let me call the news... i feel much sad for teenager with hurt feelings... they will surely never get over that
@@LoFiAxolotlyou should have more empathy for your fellow children, kid.
@@LoFiAxolotlgod tier simp right here
@freak1337able did you not read the part where she sent a mob of her fans to essentially doxx this kid? When this is added to the context of this woman having a repeated, prolific history of emotionally abusing and predating upon kids, it's much worse than "some teenager getting their feelings hurt."
This is yet another example of how dangerous it is when people with bad intentions gain social power and authority over impressionable young adults through social media. We have a responsibility amongst all of us to make note of what this behavior looks like and stop supporting content creators like this.
@@LoFiAxolotlvery interesting message for someone who has teenagers by MCR in their music playlist
I cannot fathom this person's straight up privilege & entitlement! What a gross, disgusting vile human. I feel horrible for the victims. She was so dismissive.
Victims of what? She talking with them? GTFO lol
@@powerhouse884please grow up
@@FrostytheWicked Look who is talking.
i feel bad for her kids as well that they have a mother like this💀
@@powerhouse884are you saying it’s appropriate for a 33 year old to ask for pictures of a 14 year old’s ass? Or to ask them what their favorite sex position is?
I thought he was kidding cuz i remember another apology video that someone made for a "best/worst apology video contest". This is so much worse
New song title: the train of " i'm right, you're wrong "
You’d think that she would’ve learnt from other people’s failed apology videos over the years.. yet somehow she made them look better
This isn't an apology video, it's a deflection
The minute she picked up the ukulele i knew it was all about to go down hill and fast
Someone should make an apology video compilation.
And to think Logan Paul’s apology video couldn’t have been topped, Colleen said hold my ukulele 💀
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I thought I had witnessed all the various different forms of malignant narcissism, I was wrong.
This is just insane, on a whole new level.
Not only does she dismiss the proven and very real bad things she did, she makes a joke out of the victims, she tries to make herself the victim, she talks about accountability while taking none, and she's insane enough to actually believe that this was all the correct course of action to take!
To remind everyone... she sent LINGERIE to an UNDERAGE fan who she had been having wholly inappropriate conversations with about her adult relationships, after USING him as an unpaid volunteer for her social media and community.
If she was a man she would probably already be under criminal investigation and she wouldn't still have a damn CZcams channel. This event has shown the outrageous hypocrisy in companies like CZcams. If Colleen had a peen she would not be on this platform after the things she has done.
i feel like theres more hypocrisy in society than in CZcams. youtube doesnt give a shit about any of this. they'll only take action when enough people start bothering them about it, because then it would look bad for them to do nothing. but i feel like when women do predatory shit, not as many people get angry, there are more people who somehow forgive her, and therefore theres not enough outrage for CZcams to take notice. i dont think theres any hypocrisy or double standard in youtube because that implies that a corporation would even in any case make a decision out of their own good will. its always about their image and their profits, whether its a man or a woman.
Top 2 of worst biggest apologies of all time:
1. Colleen Ballinger singing
2. Sienna Mae dancing
This is on par with Sienna Mae’s interpretative dance apology about her SA allegations
This probably takes 2nd place for worst YT apologies of all time, only second to Sienna Mae's dancing apology 💀
its possibly worse. The cringe factor is so extreme.
Third to simplykenna’s, Tati’s or Lauralee comes first ☠️
Someone please edit her dancing over this song
@@Unfortunately_Mickey that would be incredible
At least sienna Mae was just some kid. Yeah she is a dumb cringe kid that did a horrible thing but maybe she will actually have common sense in the future. This woman is 30 something. This is her AFTER she’s matured.
Can't call it a apology video if see never said sorry. Literally just gaslit her victims and said they were lying.
A+ ending on the ukulele song
Ludwig's head bopping along with the tune is the most hilarious thing ever. 0:31
The super fake decision to do a second part had me ROLLING
So... she's being cancelled for grooming kids and her "apology" video ends with "well fk me I guess." 🤯... No! That is the problem in the first place! You can't tell kids to fk you! 🤦♀️ That's CREEPY!
Thats not what she meant, she meant " well im the one to blame i guess". And well, shed be completely right for doing all of those weird sht. Like the only time she's gonna be right is when she 's being sarcastic 💀
@@hendry9984how did you manage to not understand it was a joke
@@wldnrkls the emojis
I was not expecting that outro lmao 😂😂
my favorite part is that ludwig had to make himself feel better by telling us we are all terrible together for covering this topic xD
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The look on her face and in her eyes before a word comes out of her mouth says more than anything. It’s worrisome.
I feel like we deserve an apology video for that verse tbh
Influencers and CZcamsrs need to set boundaries from the beginning in order to cut that shit off from jump.
Oh my god, that's crazy. I actually just started watching New Girl.