HOW FAST IS AN 8s X-MAXX WITH JUST GEARS?? speed run GPS top speed ULTIMATE GEARING GUIDE!
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2020
- I tested a number of gear ratios on the X
these are my results:
54/18- 43.2 MPH (stock)
46/18- 47.2 MPH (included spur)
46/19- 48.8 MPH (I did run 50+ with this ratio previously)
50/19- 47.3 MPH
50/20- 49.3 MPH
50/22- 53.6 MPH (tires expand a lot more, handling is noticeably worse, its harder on electronics)
The higher ratios (numerically lower)are very hard on the motor, esc and batteries so *** DO NOT OVER GEAR** it may cause equipment failure FIRE or DEATH.
so gear accordingly.
My truck is currently geared 50/18 as that works well for the area i run at, i will experiment more with it.
If there is enough interest I can do part 2 and gear even higher at my own risk, so leave a comment.
THANKS FOR WATCHING. - Zábava
Big gearing FAST x-maxx.
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best video ever on gearing . thank you for taking the time and doing the work and sharing it .
Thanks for watching my friend, just don't gear that high if your running in grass and stuff.
Absolutely awesome video man. 1 of the best on XMaxx gearing IMO.
Thanks for your efforts sir
Thank you. I needed this video. I keep seeing videos of people swapping out gears but never explaining if it's faster or slower. This helps me know what direction to go when my stock gears go bad like every one says they will. So far I haven't had any problems with mine. Iv had it for a year now and just cleaned and repack my all my differentials and replace all my bearings, and all my spur, pinion, gears, etc, are in great shape. I'm either driving it right, or not bashing it hard enough. Lol. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for taking the time to demonstrate all the different set ups! Very very cool bro! You rock man 🤙🏽
Thanks for watching my friend
Easily the most informative video about x maxx gears. Great stuff!
Thanks
check out part 2 link in the comments....
Excellent video. Just bought an Xmaxx recently and was looking for a little more speed. This video helped tremendously. Thank you.
Thank you for watching 👍👍
Just want to say thank you so much your video was more explaining on the gears than anybody else's this was the exact video I was looking for thank you 👍👍🔥🔥
Thanks for watching.
And read my description and don't over gear your truck, the big gearing I used is more suitable for hard surfaces like black top, so gear accordingly.
The best video for x maxx owners! Thank you for the information!
Thanks for watching my friend 👍👍
Very informative ! Thanks for taking the time to put that video together. Nice job
Thanks for watching👍
Great video on explaining the gear ratios for X maxx
Thanks my friend
One of the best clear informatie i have gotten in a long time!!! Greetings from the netherlands!!! Subbed!!! Keep up the work
Thank you 👍👍
@@secretsquirrel1942
No, Thank you for describing and more importantly listing the spur size comparison.
Hat tip.
@@secretsquirrel1942 how hot was motor and esc and which gearing is best for bashing and higher than stock speed
@@tktk-om8cg
Temps were low but this was a short run.
I was using 18/50 last year, this year I went with 19/50 No issues so far.
@@secretsquirrel1942 thanks buddy my stock pinion just went out so I went with your 50/18 recommendations
genuinely great video, as a noob this helped loads. thanks bud ,
Thanks for watching my friend
Thx for the demos !! Helps lots
Thanks for watching.👍👍
Great video and very informative! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for the support
What a legend mate awesome vid
Thank yoy
thanks for all the useful information that I need.
best video for the gearing ratio.
thanks bro
Thank you for watching my friend
Currently owned the maxx. Gonna purchase an xmaxx soon. Thank you for this vid!
Thanks for watching my friend
dont wanna put you off Xmaxx is a great truck.. just have deep pockets for repairs/upgrades, more so if you plan on visiting a skate park "regularly" LMFAO
Thank-you Secret Squirrel :) I apricate the time you put into this
Thanks for watching my friend
AWESOME JOB BROTHER!
Thanks my friend
For a newbie this was a great way to learn. thank you
Thanks for watching my friend
Nice video and info. I been playing with gear ratios and making it a lil faster. I been running now 20/50 on mine and it has been perfect for bashing, with good temps. Definitely subbed stay safe
Thank you
stock motor end esc?
great analysis! many thanks.
Thank you
Thanks for the big info Sir👌🏽👌🏽
Thanks for watching my friend
Awesome video!
Thank you very much I appreciate your support
Thanks 🙏 man very informative
Thanks for the support.
Great info 👍👍 thanks
Thanks my friend
I’m going to a 50T Spur also just waiting for it to arrive, stock gears lasted one charge and took off teeth wasn’t even abusing it so will need to keep a close eye on mesh when I do the swap. Anyway thinking of running a 17t pinion with the 50 as was happy with the stock gearing, but with a 50T spur it makes gearing swap easy to achieve a wide range of ratio, so I’ll be able to play around trying higher and lower ratios fairly easy as you did. Nice video with good info!
Thank you
Keep the 18 thats what i have now 50/18 only 2mph difference from stock.
It has pins inside so dont have to set mesh the old way but you can remove them and still set it yiurself if you want.
@@secretsquirrel1942 some of the gears I ordered came today, only my new 54 spur showed up so I put it in with a 18 pinion, I used the pin holes for a 17 pinion and the mesh is dead on in my truck. This is with a Hot Racing spur and and a Robinson Racing pinion, went for a test drive tonight when done checked the gears and looked like brand new still. When my 50 spur gets here will likely put it in and leave the 18 pinion in and see how I like it.
great informative video helped a lot thanks
Thanks for watching
Great video .. 😎👍👍
Thanks man
great vid
Thanks great info
Thank you
Nice video
You did a great job showing us the different gear combos.
Did you do all the gear swapping on site? If you did, awesome 👍🏼
Yes exactly, did it in the parking lot while the batteries were topping off.
And thank you very much.
Thank you..
Thank you for watching👍
I am running 18/46 for over a year with stock electronics. Havent tried hard on bushes. Mostly asphalt and low traction surfaces but havent faced any issues. I guess I’ll stick with it since it does have good speed and torque balance
Grass is the worst.
Interesting thanks 🇬🇧🇬🇧😎😎👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks
You're welcome.
nice subscribed
Thanks for the support
Very nice. I'm currently running 50/20 gearing, max 6 esc and HR motor mount with manual mesh. HR for the spur and Robinson racing for the pinoin. I did blow a 6s motor (it got too hot on wet grass) and a 8s motor (I didn't grease up the rear rpm bearings. My fault), with this gearing, so I'm more careful now and I always have my temperature gun with me. I also run the duratrax lockup x 22mm tires, which are a bit bigger and heavier than the stock ones. The belted duratrax tires have zero ballooning and run nice on pavement or any other surface 👍
You really blew such a powerful motor due to installing brand new bearings?
May have been a symptom, rpm gives you a piece of paper with the bearings specifically stating that they need to be oiled before installing. 🤷♂️
great video!! I'm going with 20/50 with trencher tires and his 52 bc the tires are larger and I still want to bash with it :)
Thank you, with the taller tires maybe try stock or 50/18 first.
I'm guessing that a good gearing for on and off road would probably give you around 47 mph, since the gearing for 50 and over would probably over heat the motor on off road from what it sounds like.
I bet on a first pass on a full battery you would easily hit the 50 I mean the voltage always affects the speed but I like how smooth it drives by handles great at 50 I can’t wait to get mine thanks for the video really helpful
Check out the new vid
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That’s rolling for that size
Thanks I love this truck.
Hi there liked Ur video very much! I'm from the UK, must say u know Ur gear ratios, I'd love it if you carried on with video 2 b really good to know has I have x maxx 8s my self 👍😁💯.
Thank you very much.
Will do.
Are you still using the Peg system with all these gear ratios? I was considering going with a 20/54 setup without the Peg system.
Very good video. Thx.
Just bought me an X-maxx and it's a monster 😁. I'm looking for a good combination to go faster then 40mph on grass without overheating. I don't know if that is possible.
i got me one too
Try 50/18 or 50/19 and see how the temps are....
just wanted to thank you for the content in this video..... I'm getting my X-Maxx this week a according to my local Hobby Store.....and I'm looking to use mine mostly off-road so like you I'm not looking for a speedster.... for that I roll out my Felony.....I just want what Traxxas says it'll do.....50mph.... just like on the box...... I would also look into converting the X-Maxx to Belt Drive ....I believe belt drive would provide a smoother running RC with much less vibration .....I'd love to know what you think about it...... Thanks Again for your insight on gearing....
Thank you my friend
Stock 46t spur 18pinion will get very close, I think I went 49.7mph best but 46/19 will get there for sure.
Belt drive sounds sweet but I would worry about the belt coming off when the chassis flexes.
Definately worth a try thought.
I'm uploading new gearing video right now......
@@secretsquirrel1942b
Can you run the high speed gearing (46t spur) and bash it if you have multiple auxiliary fans without it overheating
What speed are you getting is 18/50 and are you able to bash with it?
Great video. You ran 8s traxxas Or ? I’m looking at lipos using 8s but not sure on the C rating besides min 25c. I’ve seen videos saying 25c is two low for the ESC and having it heat up. Your thoughts on that. Thanks
Watched your bash vid turnigy 4s 5000mah 65c
65c/130c burst right
Yes 8s, go with higher c rating
I like the turnigy graphene red or green label 65 or75c
Most durable battery I've tested to date.
Check out CNHL 70c they say it's the same battery as turnigy for less money.
I also did a battery test. Check it out.
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Awesome thanks man I’ll be watching your boat video my first rc was a boat shockwave 26. Looking forward to learning more off your videos thanks
No problem will do more.
Hi nice video can you do a speed run at this Same location with a 46t spur and 20, 21, 22, 23 pinion gears. Thanks
Hey i might
But its gonna be so hard on the esc.
I might do it anyways just to do it..
@@secretsquirrel1942 thanks
Thanks
Here you go
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what is the better gearing for stock motor esc if i upgrade my tire to a proline badlands? so it will not over heat?
I'm sorry I don't have that tire.
Maybe try 50/18 and 50/19 and see how the temps are.
hey, secret squirrel I have one for X-Maxx 54t hot racing steel hardened and stock Traxxas pinion 18t it is possible for reduced 50T to 20t no ballooning tire or ESC frying?
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Sir.. can i ask u..for my xmaxx..the best spur and pinion size is ?? For topspeed... I plan to upgrade combo..but now i stay at stock esc and motor... The best u think for topspeed.. 🙏 ty sir...
Start at 46/20 and go up on pinnion from there but be mindful this is very hard on the motor batteries and esc and may cause damage and overload electronics.
So I finally upgraded my 6s x maxx to 8s . Went with a 50 spur 20 pinon. First pass did about 53 . 2nd pass went 56.5 all on stock 6s motor but 8s power. Do I need to gear down for bashing? If so what do you recommend?
Ya probably Watch your temps
Throw an 18 on it if you have it or 54 spur and even that may get hot so be carefull, if its still hot then do both.
I actually have one of those motors but did not play with it yet.
That's a big difference glad you left this comment 👍👍
8s with stock gears...i got 44mph on a grass football field....its uncontrollable on pavement with stock tires above 38mph
can you make the Part 2, im realy Interestet
If I find the time I will try
Here you go
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Gonna be running Pro Line HP Belted 3.8 what would be' the best gearing for the larger than stock tires.
Hi, I would try stock gearing first 54/18 then go up gradually.
Here you go
Check this out
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What’s a good gearing for Off road to get a little more out of the truck?
For the stuff I do, I like 50/19.
Are your tires belted to prevent ballooning throwing all your tests off?
My tires are stock, the truck is stock.
Now they are
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so a 21tooth pinion would give you roughly the same speed as the 22? thanks
About a 2mph diffrence.
Whats the best gearing that gets a bit faster.on the xmaxx that does not do damsge to the xmaxx when bashing?
I had zero issues with 50/18
@@secretsquirrel1942 is it faster than stock gearing?
Nice video. I printed myself a few sets of different gears out of titanium. I love the sound they make compared to the steal gears and they are actually a few grams lighter and should be much stronger. Made 20-26 pinions and 46,50 and 54 spur. Sounds like a turbo charger now instead of clinking gears. Love this truck. Just watch out for your legs. :) Took me out once already when it slid sideways into me. Heh
Thanks
Thats awesome that you have the ability to do that, very very cool.
👍👍
secret squirrel I am very lucky to work where I do. I’ve made myself so many parts out of titanium and aluminum. Also helps I design the supports to build our parts so I get to make pretty much anything I can cad up or find an alt file of. I made a replica of Cain from Robocop2 completely in aluminum. That thing is a beast. 15lb posable statue. Without watching the video again you are running stock tires or after? I got the badlands on mine cause it shredded a tire on the body. I can’t get mine to go over 48mph with the 22/46 combo. I’m sure the tires being so heavy don’t help much. It’s all stock for now also.
Yes stock tires.
Can u make me some titanium gears for mine and possibly alum steering rods for the front end can pay you through PayPal if the price is right
@@JeremyDN let me know if ya can make me a 18 pinion and a 50tooth spur from titanium and I'd love a set of steering rods for the front end in aluminum
Mate what kind of batteries were you running! Apologies if I'm asking a Much repeated Question you have already answered!
I ran Turnigy Graphene 4s 65c 5000mah in this video, but I tested a few batteries on the X in this video czcams.com/video/dfK0J1z9QQk/video.html
Dammm that's stock??? You learned something every day! So 20/50? Got u going 53mph stock?👍so! If I went with these gears setup! Would I go over 53mph?? 22/46, 24/50,24/46???? Badass video by the way. Thank you sir 🙏
Yes stock
No 22/50 but you have to be carefull with this gearing
20/46 should be similar speed.
But again hard on stuff esc/ motor/ batts.
I wouldnt use either for any off road.
And thank you very much.👍👍
All the details are in the description too.
Check thst out
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Do you set your mesh manually? If so how? Thanks
No I still use the pins and appropriate holes.
After motor is removed just make sure that the bottom area is clean, no sand, dirt, leaves etc.
Sometimes I vacuum it out or use compressed air to clean it.
Btw you are loosing some voltage every time you make a run. You are probably at ~3.8 per cell while trying 50/22 which will decrease your top speed by nearly 10%. So I think you can achieve close to 58mph with full packs on 50/22
I recharged the batteries while I was switching gears out every run was started with the battery at 100%.
I was wondering if you can help me I have a x-max I have the spur gear 46 I was going to put the pinion gear 27 so I can run at 65 mph do you think that will work I seen it on the video I'm just making sure it's a 8 s
With the stock motor mount and locating pins the biggest that will fit is a 26T
But even that may be too much for the stock electronics to handle.
Now you should try a 40t spur and a 30t pinion, I guarantee you’ll get over 70 with it
what would 46spur 30pin get? also 46s with 32 or 34 pin?
@@Raptor-Jesus I didn’t try it yet, but I assume that it will get 90mph since I did a 20t pinion and a 40t spur, and got 80mph
@@Raptor-Jesus
I can tell you what a 26 does
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Whats the best gear that doesnt eat up the whole system ?
That depends on what your doing with it, many variables.....
I had zero issues running 50/18 and 50/19 even in some gnarly off road stuff.
I'm Running A 46 & A 22.. Me Too, I'm Not A Speed Person, I'm More Of A Basher..Lol! But My Main Goal Is Not To Make It Wheeile When Full In Throttle.. I Thought It Would Work By Running Taller Gears, But Same Thing, Its Just To Powerful..Also I'm Running The 1600kv Motor From The X-Maxx 6..
The electric motors have so much torque that gearing up is an inneficient way of keeping the nose down.
More power = more wheelies
You'd be better off going back to the 1200kv motor if you want less wheelies or run 6s.
Gearing so high is real hard on the esc, motor and batts.
My buddy runs that gearing (1200kv) and the tires expand so much that its hard to drive the truck straight on blacktop.
At one point the tire distorts so much that it actually slows it down.
@@secretsquirrel1942 Ooh Ok..Thanks For The Info..!😊
With the 20/50 gearing can it still wheelie on command?
It will wheelie with almost any gearing combination, this motor has lots of torque.
I didnt get the battery stats but I feel like you could gain some rpm with high mah or higher c packs?
I used turnigy 4s 5000mah 65c in this video.
I sent you a link of others that I've tested.......check it out.
@@secretsquirrel1942 Thanks! Think higger c would push it any faster? I use 100c 6s in my typhon and it skreems with optional gearing. I realize the xmaxx is a whole different beast. Thanks for sharing link!
I run a lot of boats, rc boats are harder on batteries and electronics then any other RC's.
The batteries that get a 5 minute runtime in a boat get at least a 15-20 minute runtime in an rc car.
These are some of the best batteries that i have tested, they are 65c continuous and 130c peak.
The new version of them is 75c continuous I have yet to find anything thats better, the 100c HRB graphene are almost equal in speed.
The new CNHL packs are said to be the same battery as the 75c turnigy panther graphene but are about half the cost.
I hear 22/50 is the sweet spot
That depends on the surface you're running on, I personally wouldn't use that gearing on grass or off road, I normally run 50/18 or 50/19 for that.
Please read the description....
Cool good to know I plan on running on road and off road so that helps thx for replying.
No problem
Is it uncommon? I'm getting 49 to 50mph straight out the box? 54/18 truck is about 2 weeks old. Any thoughts?
Not sure why yours would be faster then what traxxas claims....
I tested 3 of these trucks and they were all about the same.
Maybe they install the smaller spur now, did it come with an extra spur? mine came with two.
The only other things would be tire size or different motor KV or try a diffrent gps.
@@secretsquirrel1942 Yes it can't with an extra 46 tooth pinion. I've posted several videos . Who knows?
I have stock set up 54/18. Would a 50 spur really make a difference?
Yes, about 2mph add a 19 tooth pinion too and it will gain about 4mph.
@@secretsquirrel1942 Thanks. Still pretty minimal though. Guess it really does not matter for bashing around.
Do you think a 46/20 its a good combination for 50mph ?
I went 50 with 46/19
46/20 could go 53ish
But if your running on grass motor/esc may get very hot so be cautious.
21. 46. 21 50. Try those out
I dont have a 21
But some quick math tells me that 50/21 should go about
51.45 MPH, its not exact so +or- 1 MPH
And 46/21 should go faster then 53.6 mph maybe 54 maybe even 55, thats if the stock esc don't fail in the proceess.
do you have a patent so that the attacking rack does not slide off ??
?
50/18 fits with cover on ?
It fits with the stock 54, so yes.
I only had the cover off to help speed up the gear swapping process during the video.
Normally its always on to keep debris out.
Less wheelies with different gearing than stock?
Not really, motor has lots of torque.
were you running 8s or 6s for this?
8s
What batteries are you running
Turning graphene 5000 65c in this video
Check out the battery test I did....
czcams.com/video/dfK0J1z9QQk/video.html
Does the truck run any different on the 50/20 vs the 46/19 is there benefits in running the 50t spur over just gearing up the pinion with the stock 46t spur
50/20 is more like 46/18
Yes there is some potential benefit, more gear contact area, I put that info in the video.
Batteries are draining so it might not be as accurate
While I was changing gears the batteries were on the charger, all runs were with the batteries at 100%
Make it fly by going on a ramp at high-speed. Make it jump over the truck next time.
Now you're takin.
Lol good one lmao👍
Just curious but which batteries are you running, type and size a c rate
In this video I ran Turnigy Graphene 4s 65c 5000mah.
I also did a video testing several different batteries on the X, check it out.
czcams.com/video/dfK0J1z9QQk/video.html
would that 50 /22 53 mph set up be too much for bashing?
I wouldn't use that for bashing
Thats more for a few speed runs on a hard surface.
Put a 50 spur in it and try it with the stock 18 pinion gear then if you want more and the temps of your electronics allow it go up 1 tooth on the pinion and check temps again.
If you do a lot of blacktop then you can go higher if you run mostly on grass then I would run a smaller pinion.
Here is the X-MAXX battery test.
czcams.com/video/dfK0J1z9QQk/video.html
Oh by the way don't reck Ur motor just to show us fans, we know they ain't cheep 👍
WFO gear company is pathetic. Small company in Washington state. They don’t respond to emails period. No phone number to call them. Spend your money somewhere else. Last 14 months completely out of stock for their gears. Their steel manufacturer shut them down
I use stock traxxas or Robinson racing.