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Cavan Booth
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Anything and everything to do with magic!
These two magicians just CHANGED magic... FOREVER.
In this edition of #MagicNews, I discuss the David Copperfield situation and the two magicians who just changed magic forever!
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/may/15/david-copperfield-allegations
0:00 Intro
0:24 The David Copperfield situation
4:12 Dan & Dave Buck
10:16 Outro
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/may/15/david-copperfield-allegations
0:00 Intro
0:24 The David Copperfield situation
4:12 Dan & Dave Buck
10:16 Outro
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David Cop-a-feel.
Well done mister Potter!
So where do we download everything?
How sad is it that you are already assuming that David Copperfield is done, that his magic career is over because some women accused him of something. You haven't even given him the legal right he has to a fair trial or anything, you just assume he's guilty. I have a question. Why wait so long to come forward? It's been proven over and over again that there are a lot of scummy people (yes, even women) who try to take advantage of people with lots of money by bringing false cases against them years after the fact so that it's nearly impossible to have any kind of effective defense other than calling them out as liars. I don't know if you've ever been falsely accused of something by a woman (I have), but it's absolutely infuriating, knowing that you are completely innocent and also knowing that everyone is going to assume you are completely guilty. Luckily, the judge we had was reasonable enough to see through my accuser's lies, and to realize that she was a compulsive liar. That doesn't always happen. If Copperfield is found to be guilty of these things, THEN you can say "Throw the bum out!" or whatever. Until that time, he deserves the due process he's entitled to. I'm sure if it were you that you would want the same consideration.
I never once said the word "guilty", actually. He hasn't been charged or arrested or tried yet. But guilty or not, when 16 women accuse you, you've got to step away from the stage. Innocent until proven guilty, yes. But being accused by one woman is very different to 16 and we can all use our common sense to come to our own sensible conclusion about who is telling the truth.
As an criminologist, one who studies crime, I am extremely skeptical of any accusations being made years later. In addition, many of those in the articles states that they did not feel anything was inappropriate until years later; that is a problem. Furthermore, David is innocent until proven guilty and i see there it nothing that to date have been found to lend any credibility to guilt. Finally, he was accused and under federal investigation back in early 2000s where the accuser was found to have fabricated the assault allegation. Not. Saying all famous people are not capable of raping others, but there must be more than hanging stories later. The article had at least two that did not want their name to be used, prop all because they would have to payback nda settlement they were given and don’t want to have to pay the premium penal that goes with it!
I understand signing an nda for business related issues but signing one because of an interaction you had with someone is pretty sus. It’s doesn’t look good for copperfield. Pretty sure the presumption of innocence only relates to court, not public opinion.
Maybe I am mistaken. But anything you publish in magic is automatically public domain. Anyone can create their own version of a published effect. Just looka t the ammount of "out of this world" or "Triumph" Vernon never gave anything as public domain. And all of his effectss are taught. If seems more like a publicity thing by D and D to create sales in their old material. If it was honest, they would make their materiall free for download. Its still a positive thing-
When a magician dies, their work becomes public domain. So when Vernon died, Triumph et al became free to teach and adapt!
@@CavanBooth1Interesting. I was wondering about that . When Tommy Wonder died, the family was very protective of his work.There are also many variations of Dan and dave routines by other creators already. I still dont see how this is helping the community. They still ask money for their routines and have now given permission to others to ask for money for teaching their routines. Maye I am overlooking something here.
This has always been something that’s bothered me. So many magicians I see do effects and routines that are decades old. Even if it’s dressed up. But then all I hear is don’t steal be original. So I assumed that meant, how you portray yourself? Seems a real grey area, that we police ourselves in the community. Since the “rules” are kinda unwritten.
Is there a link for the magic they are sharing?
He made his career disappear! Unbelievable!
I dunno if this is magic news or billionaire pervert news but either way it doesn’t affect how bad your/my double lift is. Michael Jackson being a pedo didn’t affect the music industry. Don’t get defensive if it doesn’t apply to you .
Do you have a link to the Dan and Dave stuff?
Like I say, they're not giving it away for free and you can't pirate the material. If you buy or own any stuff, you have the right to use it
They had to update to clarify that they are still against the piracy and uploading of their DVDs and downloads. It did seem that they were allowing that at first.
Great news Cavan. The stuff about Copperfield starting leaking out a while ago, but only now getting the light because of all involved. Dan and Dave sounds too good to be true. But looking forward to see what comes out. 😊👍😊👍👏😎🙏
"did he know what was going on" - well, I read the wiki entry on Epstein and skimmed a few articles and still have no clue what was going on. A lot of vague stuff, written in a very sensationalized manner but no facts about what was actually going on. I'm reminded about the "rape" case involving Julian Assange and the outrage that ensured. I barely read those outrage articles but read the full transcript of the police interview with the victim and knew that people just made up that nonsense about rape. People tend to make up so much horrible stuff in their minds when they aren't presented facts (and sometimes even if they are)...
Honestly, if the Epstein docs were released then why isn’t half the government under arrest?
Thank you for talking honestly about Copperfield. This is the biggest piece of magic-related news this year, and if magicians as a whole do not speak up about it, it will only serve to hurt the public's perception of magicians and magic. We need to speak up about it, disavow him, and let magic move forward without Copperfield as a guidepost. As far as Dan & Dave, I'm honestly stoked. This is a huge move for them, and I can only hope that other authors of magic take note of the response and consider doing similar. Keeping secrets among magicians and only allowong those who can afford it to join only hurts magic long-term, and having open and free access to materials is a huge boon overall. Also, fwiw, about the one-month experiment idea, if you want to do something similar, as far as I know it's possible to declare _certain works_ as public domain and not others, though check various resources about it and don't trust a random commenter before doing anything lol
Your talking about Copperfield for clicks which is extremely lazy and unethical.
Did you realize, that every CZcams video is about clicks or is that too much for your tiny mind to understand?
"For clicks" ... yet its not in the title or thumbnail? Not one person clicked on this video thinking I would talk about it.
Well done for bringing up David Coffield issue. We must not be silent.
Copperfield isn´t going to step away. The article from the Guardian is very well documented. So except if one of the most serious newspaper on Earth got it all wrong: he´s going behind bars for the rest of his life and it seems it`s long overdue (and the Moon vanish is definitely not happening as it was planned in February. Somebody else could pick up the idea but the trick is tainted now, I think it´ll take a decade before somebody else tries it). Congratulations to Dan and Dave for doing the right thing. Most of magic is public domain already (sleight of hands cannot be patented, most methods are a zillion years old or variation on such ideas and except for apps pretty much no magic gimmick or prop reaches the threshold to be patented. Moreover magic being deception, you can expose just like you expose any scam and deception).
AFAIK he's not currently facing any criminal charges due to statute of limitations, but yeah, dudes cooked at this point, there are way too many allegations for this to just go away.,
David Copafeel...
🤣😂😂
Wow
I love magic news lol
Congratulations, you got a like for electrocuting yourself Uncle Fester style!
Thanks!
Thank you so much!!
All of your stuff is highly valuable and interesting, but this ... THIS, mate ... it's such a cliché, but it's a goddamn game changer.
Really means a lot, thank you!
Yeah, I saw a trick and figured that it was done like this, thanks for confirming. I think that guy also had a smaller card behind the main card that he could move around, to hide up some holes, because he could flick the card and four holes opened at once. Very neat trick together.
You probably dont remember, but I heavily criticized your technique a few years ago on both your previous tutorials. I must say that you've improve a lot, and you came back to put a better version of your past work. Well done. That's admirable
Thank you!
Awwwh! Pretty sure by "NOW" you know how the silver "coin" dish works (LOL). I've used it a few times and folks are generally impressed. I'm glad you got a good haul of products. I do find a few gems from time to time. Some of my 1st magic purchase came from wish before I started going to Murphy and Penguin.
I know how it works... this one didn't work! You know the 'click' they're meant to do? No click!
its shorter but same width...means if ur spectator cuts the deck from.. the side the trick is not working...shuffle so I cannot see the deck might end u up in a casino wash
It will work if you cut it from the side, as you always cut to two cards when you halve the deck. The force card will be cut to either way, as they alternate.
What brand is the hole punch?
Rapesco
The guy should get a life.
Me, Lloyd, David or all three? haha
Number 2 did something completely legal in magic: MISDIRECTION. And Penn & Teller fell. Nothing wrong with it 😂
Your a wizard harry
Love the colour changing knives. Always wanted a set. I'll have to look out for them.
This is OLDER than the hills. This video is trash. Everyone already knows about this Mr. Obvious. Get a life! NOOB!
Daniel is a master!
Great video love your stuff!
Wow such a great video 😊👍😊👍👍
About the switch Brynolf & Ljung did: they weren't performing for regular schmucks like me, they were performing for top notch magicians, so they had to adapt their misdirection accordingly. I don't think it's cheating or not believing in their effect as you put it, just another level of misdirection that Penn and Teller fell for.
Enjoy the video. You may have better luck getting magic to review with more in depth reviews. While I like the video, I’d prefer a review on the instructions as well.
Love your videos! Great as always, man ;)
The reason why P&T give away some trophies more easily or even despite them not being fooled is actually pretty easy: The n°1 rule of the show is: every episode needs to have (at least) one winner. Episodes without a winner is bad for ratings, because people turn off the show if nothing is happening. They actually had "fool-less" episodes in the early seasons every now and then and it was a problem. So during taping of a season, when they realize they have too little foolings, P&T need to "adjust" their judgment a little bit to ensure they get enough trophies out for the tv show to survive. And of course, they prefer to give it out to people that deserve it even if they didn't fool them, like Shin Lim, Richard Turner oder David daOrtiz.
Your setup tour please
The melting is an Idea by Tobias Dostal you can see him performing that in some of Chris Ramsays Videos
Where is the Dex review?
You forgot to review the cards. But great video btw!
I did actually review them but decided to cut it all in the edit as it was a bit dull!
Not including the sharpie is beyond fucked.
Yeah, strange!
Shoes
I’m kind of shocked that you didn’t immediately recognize the money printer. I thought that one came in every beginner magic kit ever.
Freaking genius!