Robert Hammenrudh
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The ULTIMATE pad? 🙄ZERO MAT from FLEXTAIL #hiking
The ZERO MAT from FLEXTAIL entered the market not too long ago and i got a sample to try out on my hikes and the short summary... it is not all good! This review will go through it all for you to make up your mind if it’s a buy or a no buy, in your book.
I believe it’s worth the money spent and for a good deal on the ZERO MAT; follow the link below.
For a good DEAL on ZERO MAT R05 from FLEXTAIL... add ROBERT15 (15% OFF) during checkout or follow the link below (affiliate link to flextail = a SAFE LINK)
👉 shrsl.com/4dpdv
PLEASE support this channel by 👉LEAVING A "SUPER THANKS"! 👈
That really helps this channel going forward and will be spent on gear for reviews!
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BIG 3
atompacks.co.uk/collections/the-atom-plus/products/the-atomplus-ep50-black (custom)
bonfus.com/product/middus-1p/
cumulus.equipment/eu_en/quilts-and-comforters-quilt-250.html (plus 50gr overfill)
www.nemoequipment.com/products/tensor-alpine
#hiking #outdoors #backpacking #camping #trail #ultralight #backpack #boots #naturelovers #nature #wild #mountains #backcountry #camping
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Is it for REAL? 🤩 Mirage 1.5 👉 UL Freestanding 2P tent!! #hiking
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I had the privilege to try out the new and updated Big Sky Mirage 1.5, a Freestanding 2-person single wall tent with two vestibules at only 1100 grams and not it DCF! Sounds a bit too good to be true? Well watch and determine for yourself if it is a BUY or a NO BUY, in your book. For more information regarding the Mirage 1,5, follow the link below: (affiliate) bigskyinternational.com/collection...
The lies hikers tell you guys…😯 you have no idea! #hiking
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The lies hikers tell you guys... about tents, backpacks and what not! This is the focus on today’s episode because these lies, or false truths are common and the more often they are told the more established they get so let’s fight them and talk about the truth instead! For a good DEAL on FLEXTAIL add ROBERT15 (15% OFF) during checkout or follow the link below (affiliate link to flextail = a SA...
Small pieces of gear that makes a HUGE difference 😮 #hiking
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Small things matter! Today its all about the smaller things in our pack that help you maintain or increase comfort on your hikes when transforming from a heavy pack to a lighter one... and I'm not talking about going ultra or super ultra-light here... this is something for everyone! For a good DEAL on FLEXTAIL add ROBERT15 (15% OFF) during checkout or follow the link below (affiliate link to fl...
7 MYTHS and old truths BUSTED 😮 #madvice #hiking
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There is a lot of myths, lies and old truths out there and a lot of bad advice are given to new hikers or them seeking new information. Most in good faith of course, but we got to remember the advice given is a total of the experience from one person and based on the area of the hikes done... so not certain its always relevant to the conditions you’re going to hike! That includes of course also...
These 5 makes us want to stay at home… 😔 #hiking
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These 5 makes us want to stay at home… 😔 #hiking
Stay aware when hiking using bone conduction! 😯 RunnerDiver2 review. #hiking
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Stay aware when hiking using bone conduction! 😯 RunnerDiver2 review. #hiking
This bad advice could ruin your hike! 😮 #hiking
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This bad advice could ruin your hike! 😮 #hiking
Could this be useful for hiking? 👉 Ultrahuman Ring Air! #hiking
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Could this be useful for hiking? 👉 Ultrahuman Ring Air! #hiking
These are a must on all backpacking trips! #hiking
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These are a must on all backpacking trips! #hiking
7 things I could bring on all my hikes! #hiking
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7 things I could bring on all my hikes! #hiking
THESE HACKS make a HUGE difference! 😮 #hiking
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THESE HACKS make a HUGE difference! 😮 #hiking
BUDGET Light-Weíght Cook-Set 🤩 Trangia Micro Light
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BUDGET Light-Weíght Cook-Set 🤩 Trangia Micro Light
These gear will NOT let you down! 😀 #hiking
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These gear will NOT let you down! 😀 #hiking
YOU still bring THESE 5 BACKPACKING? 🙄 #hiking
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YOU still bring THESE 5 BACKPACKING? 🙄 #hiking
The 5 BIGGEST LIES in the outdoor community 😮 #hiking
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The 5 BIGGEST LIES in the outdoor community 😮 #hiking
NU25 is CHALLANGED! 👑 A NEW KING on the THRONE?
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NU25 is CHALLANGED! 👑 A NEW KING on the THRONE?
This small pump is just amazing 🤩 The ZERO! #hiking
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This small pump is just amazing 🤩 The ZERO! #hiking
Worlds Lightest Rain Jacket 😮 AMAZING #review
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Worlds Lightest Rain Jacket 😮 AMAZING #review
What they’re NOT telling YOU! 😱 UL-Hiking EXPOSED
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What they’re NOT telling YOU! 😱 UL-Hiking EXPOSED
Do like this and your gear will stay dry! 🤩 #hiking
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Do like this and your gear will stay dry! 🤩 #hiking
Hit by a STORM! 😮 #Sweden #hans #weather
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Hit by a STORM! 😮 #Sweden #hans #weather
LEGENDARY GEAR 👉 YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT !
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LEGENDARY GEAR 👉 YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT !
This Is the next level Mosquito Repeller!? 😮
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This Is the next level Mosquito Repeller!? 😮
HOW TO Unclogg BeFree ➕ 7 Things YOU NEED TO KNOW!
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HOW TO Unclogg BeFree ➕ 7 Things YOU NEED TO KNOW!
BIG Backpacking Mistakes 👉 New Hikers Do!
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BIG Backpacking Mistakes 👉 New Hikers Do!
WOW 🤩 GIVEAWAY TIME WITH GEAR FROM #nitecore 👉CLOSED👈
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WOW 🤩 GIVEAWAY TIME WITH GEAR FROM #nitecore 👉CLOSED👈
BEST choice to fight MOSQUITOS? 👉 MR300 or EMR10 3 -1 REPELLER
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BEST choice to fight MOSQUITOS? 👉 MR300 or EMR10 3 -1 REPELLER
This cold be YOUR next tent! 👉BONFUS 🤩
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This cold be YOUR next tent! 👉BONFUS 🤩
HIDDEN FEATURES 👉 KOMPERDELL Trekking Pole REVIEW!
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HIDDEN FEATURES 👉 KOMPERDELL Trekking Pole REVIEW!

Komentáře

  • @TheWorldOnPaper
    @TheWorldOnPaper Před 18 hodinami

    I don’t comment on videos much, but this was valuable insight! Thank you.

  • @TomSwango
    @TomSwango Před 4 dny

    Does the ultrasonic repel mosquitos are the pads necessary for mosquitos?

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 4 dny

      @@TomSwango hi 👋🏻. The ultrasonic is for rodents so for mosquitoes you need the pads.

  • @northcountrygirl1980

    Excellent video in comparison to the Americans who speak at a ridiculous speed with distracting background music.

  • @LindsayLindsay-c9x
    @LindsayLindsay-c9x Před 7 dny

    No holes in the bracket? How to add one's own UL headband?

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 6 dny

      @@LindsayLindsay-c9x yeah I know… a big downside if one wants to make their own!

  • @thomasgarrison3949
    @thomasgarrison3949 Před 8 dny

    I'm 69, I don't backpack anymore, so got a TETON Sports Mountain Ultra Tents - 3 Person Backpacking Tent & the TETON Sports Mountain Ultra 3 Footprint; Waterproof Tarp, for $205. The matching footprint cost only a little more than a Blue 6 x 8 Tarp from Walmart. I'm putting it in my Motorcycle tow behind trailer, when I go on a camping trip with my 2023 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Trike. I got a 3 person tent because both my young girlfriend & I are both 200+ lbs & we want room, just incase we get frisky in the boondocks.

  • @vvs3796
    @vvs3796 Před 8 dny

    .."and a hydrapak sponsors me"

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 8 dny

      @@vvs3796 Nope 👎🏻 not at all! Found it, tried it, liked it… nothing more than that!

  • @vvs3796
    @vvs3796 Před 9 dny

    My cnoc bag is a big pain to open n close, literally

  • @waxman4207
    @waxman4207 Před 9 dny

    5:15 I go UL including camp shoes I could take a chair and still be under 14lbs. I'm 70 yrs old and still going strong.

  • @evesouthwood7633
    @evesouthwood7633 Před 9 dny

    Where can you buy these awesome reusable coffee filters?

  • @muskett4108
    @muskett4108 Před 10 dny

    I maxed out all the sales and sponsor discounts, and bought a few items to hit the free post. All good stuff and gave loads of change compared to just getting another higher end pad. Comfy, warm enough, and pretty quiet which some other pads aren't. No crisp packet racket every time you turn. Pretty good value; pleased with my purchases. Not everyone has tons of money to spend. Plenty of parents have to kit out more than themselves. These are a lot better than the cheaper stuff out there. Time will tell if they last. I have top end kit, but don't always need that level especially if lending stuff out to get others to give the outdoors a go..

  • @jacekhabrajski8440
    @jacekhabrajski8440 Před 10 dny

    What is the color temperature of the light - neutral - cold?

  • @martinstockl2846
    @martinstockl2846 Před 11 dny

    Is this a paid advertisement, just based on specs, or did you really test the device? I have reviewed dozens of different tests now, and most of them end up telling, that the device does not get hot enough to distribute the ingredients of the plate, plus duration is less than 2/3 of the specified time. Did you receive a "Sunday product", while others received a "Mondays product" and there is just a big variety in quality? I never see such a discrepancy between good and bad results for ThermaCell or for Nitecore, as I see it for Flextail. 🤷‍♂️ Any idea, why?

  • @bruno3833
    @bruno3833 Před 11 dny

    Can you make video on NU21

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 10 dny

      @@bruno3833 would love to, have a bit of a break from CZcams at the moment but have some plans for a couple of episodes during summer but not the NU21… but I will ask and see if possible 🙂

  • @chuckberg5585
    @chuckberg5585 Před 11 dny

    Everyone stop boiling water and start cooking something ☝

    • @chuckberg5585
      @chuckberg5585 Před 11 dny

      And please no Ramen noodles! Actually cook some real food😮

  • @lauralossie3893
    @lauralossie3893 Před 17 dny

    Great info! I don’t love my Lan Shan 1 person, but it’s cheap and light and gets me on the trail. I’ll definitely want to upgrade later.

  • @Swatek77
    @Swatek77 Před 17 dny

    Would it be a big problem to use the women's version of the crown 2 for a 180cm, 75kg man? thank you for answer

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 17 dny

      Well, depends. Women’s versions normally have more J shaped shoulder straps giving room for the boobs 🤷🏼‍♂️🫣probably work just as good for you but you might wanna try it out before heading out on a longer hike.

  • @PraktischTaktisch-Gut

    1 Person tent means your backpack sleeps outside

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 13 dny

      True true… or at least a bit more exposed! I like having mine inside 🤷🏼‍♂️ but the big vestibules on my Middus is ok.

  • @ZgNavigator
    @ZgNavigator Před 18 dny

    Chris Revees Sebenza 21 large 24/7

  • @j-sonS
    @j-sonS Před 19 dny

    My family of four are going away this summer. I bought each of us a different filter. Befree, lifestraw peak, sawyer squeeze, and epic nalgene. Will see what we prefer

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 13 dny

      Please come back and tell me and the audience your experience 🙂🙏🏻 have a great trip!

  • @Antijab
    @Antijab Před 20 dny

    Hey, do you ever wish you had the Middus 2p instead of the 1p, as a 1 man tent? Or do you feel the space is good enough, and that the benefit of having smaller footprint/easier to pitch is too much of an advantage obver the 2p? In my case, the little bit of extra weight for the 2p Middus don't matter to me at all, and so it will only come down to practicality... I live out in tents in Norway area atleast 100 days a year, so I need to have somewhat of a comfort, but honestly it does seem like the 1p gives you good enough room in the vestibule stash gear and cook... Looks like it is super good against the weather from this video as well, concidering you are not suffering from condense or rain slipping in... - What do you think? Middus 1p vs 2p as a solo traveler in Norway area? Subbed!

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 19 dny

      Hi 👋🏻, and welcome to the channel! 🙏🏻 this is a good question, I believe it comes down to personal preference off course. A classic weight vs space scenario but in this case… not to big weight penalty here so choosing a 2p sounds reasonable. The smaller footprint is only interesting I would say if hiking in the forest where big spaces to put your tent is difficult to find, for mountain hiking, over the tree line this is most of the time no issue. If spending 100 night/year it’s a no brainer for me, 2p it is. For the space inside…. For the comfort it gives. 1p is nice to have for 1 - 2 week adventures, walking long distances …when wanting to go as light as possible. 🤷🏼‍♂️ //R

    • @Antijab
      @Antijab Před 19 dny

      @@roberthammenrudh Thanks! that made a lot of sense. Gotta go with some extra comfort in this case. - Emil

  • @JamesChung2000
    @JamesChung2000 Před 22 dny

    When is a good situation to use water purifier tablets in conjunction with this filter? And can the tablet be used in the BeFree container? Thanks for the video!

    • @mischiefner
      @mischiefner Před 6 dny

      From what I remember, tablets (with these types of filters) are used when there's suspicion of a viral contamination in the water.

  • @Wonforic
    @Wonforic Před 23 dny

    WONFORIC MINI Air Pump is also very good. You can try our products.

  • @stephanmedlin7323
    @stephanmedlin7323 Před 25 dny

    Guess who might be going to Sweden bro!!!

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 25 dny

      Then I wish you a great stay… what are the plans? Hiking, sightseeing or?

  • @Im_With_Stupid
    @Im_With_Stupid Před 26 dny

    I have a Sierra Designs High Side 1 that I really like, but then it's pretty big for a 1 person bivy tent. I also have a Wild Country Coshee Micro that I really like because it's so comically small. That thing ought to come with shoehorn zipper pulls just for a laugh. But seriously, 1 person tents are good if you're trying to wring every bit of weight and pack size you can out of your kit, but a better alternative would probably be a trekking pole tent that let's you keep the 2 person space while wringing the same amount of both if not more.

  • @vmpol
    @vmpol Před 26 dny

    It depends on the tent, season and type of journey. Summer wild camp for 1-2 days? No issues with 1-man tent and a tarp. Mountaineering trip in winter? 2 man tent with a huge vestibule is not enough.

  • @feldgraufox4927
    @feldgraufox4927 Před 27 dny

    I got a denttabs bamboo toothbrush and toothpaste tablets. Saved 9 grams swapping my normal toothbrush with the bamboo one 😂 i really bought it for the tablets though

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 25 dny

      Small savings are also great 😂👍🏻 it’s like, why not 🤷🏼‍♂️😄

  • @YoMoma777
    @YoMoma777 Před 27 dny

    How well does the Flextail work when there is a small breeze? Does it just blow the insecticide away leaving you unprotected?

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 27 dny

      It’s the same problem with all these evaporation products like TinyRepel, Thermacell etc and that they don’t work very well in wind. Small breeze is ok, but not more.

  • @Jbo143
    @Jbo143 Před 28 dny

    Good 👍 info! Kentucky guy here. My Outdoors videos @Jbo143

  • @cherylhikes2234
    @cherylhikes2234 Před 28 dny

    Yes one night is awesome.. feels like a week!

  • @twatmere9726
    @twatmere9726 Před 28 dny

    I'm looking for pants with knee pads, stretchy and breathable. I already plan to get boots (lowa mk2) and I have a jacket that's cool and strerchy from Under Armor. I whanna get into hiking or trekking so I'm still thinking of a backpack to get.

  • @Mountain-K2
    @Mountain-K2 Před 29 dny

    The problem with these Nitecore lights are they have built in batteries that cant be replaced or a spare fitted if needed this makes the NU25 lights throw away disposable lights. and if you forget to charge them they let you down in pinch. The light output is not enough runtime if in the mountains or backpacking activity and they need charging more frequently and not trustworthy or reliable in mountain or backpacking usage. cheap plastic and questionable battery life. no way to replace battery while on the move, if you forget to charge it your in trouble. I will stick to my 18650 battery metal powered headlights as they offer long run times and more power and longer beam distances if needed. Yes this is more weight but its worth it for safety and relibiity and performance to get up and down a mountain...

  • @vvs3796
    @vvs3796 Před 29 dny

    i done this with my sawyer squeeze( and yes i used filtered hot water) it improved the flow, but then shorlty after i toook it on my trip and the thing water just barely dripped bit and i tried several times during 3 days! i had little better experince with mini, what is the problem? i m giving up .. katadyn be free as i understand works with similar technology and suffers from the same problem.

  • @sirchristopher2000
    @sirchristopher2000 Před měsícem

    Much nicer edditing that 2 years back. Nic eone man :)

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 29 dny

      Thsnks 🙏🏻 appreciate you giving me a second chance!

  • @zoomzoomgt
    @zoomzoomgt Před měsícem

    Are the pads reusable. (Up to 4 hrs) or it's 1 time use, if u only use it for an hr, and the patch is no good?

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před 28 dny

      Hi 👋🏻 they’re reusable 👍🏻 so for me they last at least two night or moments you want some peace when eating or relaxing 🙂

  • @sirchristopher2000
    @sirchristopher2000 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the info but I would really enjoy the video much more if you stopped the relentless sound effects - pop, ping, woop, ching! arrrrg!

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      I totally agree… I’ve learned that and devolved further 🙂 I hope you can give my newer videos a second chance and take a look?

    • @sirchristopher2000
      @sirchristopher2000 Před měsícem

      @@roberthammenrudh affirmative! Thanks for getting back to me

  • @juggernaut316
    @juggernaut316 Před měsícem

    is it possible to connect tubing between the two?

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      Yes i believe so, the drinking tubes have the quick connect in one end so why not just remove the drink end and stuff it to the adapter. Should work. Take a look at their website. 🙂

  • @richardalun-jones3319
    @richardalun-jones3319 Před měsícem

    Why not use a wind shield? Seems like the most obvious thing to do given the circumstances... 🤔

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      That you can absolutely do, but added weight. This set is supposed to be a complete solution and the reason I tried it the way I did. Not worth the money in my opinion, but the pot is a good budget option.

  • @jonnytentpeg
    @jonnytentpeg Před měsícem

    I always use the equation 2 man tent 1 man and his equipment 4 man tent 2 men and their equipment with my tents over the years although after feeling lost and alone in my MSR Hubba Hubba NX2 (it's cavernous) I've decided to take the 1 man tent plunge for the first time with the durston x mid solid after seeing one in the flesh I think I'm going to be okay we'll see 😬😀👍

  • @johncramer9564
    @johncramer9564 Před měsícem

    So in the case of the Thermarest you said 63 grams if including batteries, but in the case of the Flextail zero pump you said it is 33 grams. But this is not including the weight of the batteries or adapter. This is a kind of deceptive comparison. To compare the two you should give the weight of both with the batteries needed to operate them. If you also weigh the Zero pump with its battery, and adapter the weight is the same as the Thermarest Micropump at 2.2 ounces. Same weight.

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      True and all explained in the full review on the pump. Difficult to have all the technical details under 1 min 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @billb5732
    @billb5732 Před měsícem

    Modern silpolys can be better than most silnylons. Poly has less stretch and absorbs less water. It still packs small, stuffs, and lasts longer than laminates (DCF and Ultra).

  • @dominicsantangelo2610
    @dominicsantangelo2610 Před měsícem

    An elegant if somewhat expensive solution. I've often worried about losing that little washer!

  • @bcamping1
    @bcamping1 Před měsícem

    First

  • @getphuked2
    @getphuked2 Před měsícem

    Just go to a job site, if you can find 1. Ask for a piece of scrap TYVEK.

  • @wheepingwillow24u17
    @wheepingwillow24u17 Před měsícem

    WELL I DID A SEARCH ON THOSE LINKS, AND CAN'T FIND THE EXACT THINGS YOU SHOWED IN YOUR VIDEO. BTW YOU DID SUCH A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING IT ALL. BUT I'M FRUSTRATED THAT I CAN'T FIND THEM OR PARTS TO CONNECT. SO I NEED THE SAWYER, WOW THERE ARE SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM, THE THAT BOTTLE, AND ALSO AN ADAPTER? HELP? I CAN'T SIT FORWARD FOR LONG TO VIEW MY COMPUTER AS I AM SIGHT IMPAIRED AS WELL AS SERIOUSLY NECK IMPAIRED, LOOKING FOR ALL THIS CAN LITERALLY CAUSE MY DEATH. HELP PLEASE? THANKS

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      Hi, don’t know where your from but look at these links. They have made some upgrades. hydrapak.com/products/plug-n-play-42mm-cap?variant=31642503675994 hydrapak.com/products/filter-adapter-28-mm?variant=39424192413847 hydrapak.com/products/flux%E2%84%A2-1l?variant=44289302462697

  • @barnyWRX
    @barnyWRX Před měsícem

    What about Darn Tough socks? Does any thru-hiker NOT own a pair?

  • @Chris66able
    @Chris66able Před měsícem

    Oh look it s the guy who harps on constantly about pack weight, yet cries if you say he is obsessed with pack weight and never fails to mention it !

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh Před měsícem

      Ok ok 🤷🏼‍♂️😄… I believe one should save weight where possible but, for packs I’m all for framed packs.

  • @dons1643
    @dons1643 Před měsícem

    What about a smell from Sawyer squeeze... I use bleach water combo after hiking to clean and let the filter dry out for weeks... Just pulled it out to use on my upcoming hike and it smells bad tastes bad... But I've had it for about 9yrs. Does anybody have this issue?

  • @dons1643
    @dons1643 Před měsícem

    What about a smell from Sawyer squeeze... I use bleach water combo after hiking to clean and let the filter dry out for weeks... Just pulled it out to use on my upcoming hike and it smells bad tastes bad... But I've had it for about 9yrs

  • @RavenBlaze
    @RavenBlaze Před měsícem

    A comment for the hiker guy 😊

  • @outsiderswalks5460
    @outsiderswalks5460 Před měsícem

    What kind of frameless packs have you tried for extended priodes ? :) frameless packs have other advantages than lower weight (you still save some 300-400 grams) its more about that it carries the weigt better when you are 8-10 kiloes or lower - you carry the weight closer to you body center of gravity, so it affects your walking motion less at the same weight. But of course this is when we are talking UL pack weight.