The 5 BIGGEST LIES in the outdoor community 😮
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- There is a lot of lies and old truths in commercials and in the outdoor community that seems to never die out, for new hikers that could mean a BAD first experience! Today I give you the five biggest lies and give you the truth instead, all to give you a better start in YOUR NEW HOBBY!
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MT100 Down Jacket - www.decathlon.se/p/167571-112...
TREKOLOGY Pillow - trekology.com/products/aluft-...
Crown2 60L Backpack - www.granitegear.com/crown2-60...
Lanshan Tent - 3fulgear.com/product/ultralig...
BRS300T Stove - www.amazon.se/BRS-Ryggs%C3%A4...
Amicus Stove - sotooutdoors.com/product/amic...
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True, true and once again true. Unfortunately, I had to spend a lot of money to reach similar conclusions. Regards.
First I laughed, then I cried. I’ve bought some gear three times over.
Me too, I made so many purchases that turned out to be poor choices.
So true about tents. I learned to "add 1 to the rating" when I was in scouts.
They have gotten worse over time, not better.
The old 150cm-wide 2-person tents are now merely 120cm wide. Ugh.
As you say, 1-person tents are for experts rather than beginners.
Very clear, and judiciously reasoned. When I have "over-packed" in the past, it discourages me from being in the woods; when I pack lighter, I get out more frequently, and enjoy the experience more. Stay safe, and enjoy the woods; thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
Thanks and glad you enjoyed the episode 🙂🙏🏻
Great observations. The Durston 1 person options might be okay. The large vestibule size and using a sit pad really give you more options and lots of room for gear, though I will say I do agree that hte 2 person options are better yet (and better than most other options, particularly for the price) by allowing you to keep all your gear inside so bugs and moisture don't attack your stuff.
The backpack observation is true as well. I swear, I don't work for Durston, but the Kakwa (and similarly designed packs) can be purchased larger and rolled down to daypack size so that might save a new backpacker money vs. buying two bags, and of those styles for the money, the Durston once again seems like a really good option. I paid as much for a more traditional Gregory Zulu 40, which I love, and does have two features the Kakwa (40 or 55) don't, but the latter shaves a lot of weight and is really well designed.
I couldn't agree more with you on lightweight pants, even in the winter time they seem to do better to keep you warmer. I use a very low cost option; not sure if you can find them in Europe but Wrangler makes some really nice ones. They're about $35 USD (often cheaper) and are incredibly comfortable and pretty darned durable. Here's what Wrangler calls them: Wrangler Men's Outdoor Stretch Zip Cargo Pant
Thanks for a great comment and glad you agree and find it fit your own experience. Will look into the pants from Wrangler, thanks for the recommendation.
Agreed. The Durston 1p is plenty spacious and just the right size. Two vestibules offer plenty of storage space. Yes and yes to the Xmid and Kakwa.
You're sooo right! Outdoor experiences are mostly different from the commercials that shall keep us buying new gear!
A great video again, enjoyed it! And: nice cap!! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it and yeah, a new cap with channel logo and all, though it would be a nice touch.
@@roberthammenrudh It is!!!
Naturehike Cloud up 1 - is a 1 person tent, but it is VERY generous with 80-110cm width and 220cm length and a nice abside. Plenty for a person and gear.
Hi 👋🏻, that’s one of the tents I would like to try actually. I’ve heard so much good things about that tent 👍🏻 we’ll see, maybe I can make it happen during 2024.
Yes, this is refreshing! You earned a new subscriber 😊
Thanks, glad you liked it! And, welcome to the channel 🙂
This is all true, there are alot of lies about gear. You pointed out that clothing can be used on the trail and everyday life, versatility. I have carried a heavy pack, no fun and learned the hard way. Packs are complicated. Remember, will the pack support the weight of the gear you need to be safe and comfortable, everyone has different levels of comfort and require different gear to achieve this. Very good video.
Thanks and agree to all your points as well! 🙂👍🏻
Absolutely great topic my friend, so nicely elaborated and presented!
Thanks 😊
Great video Robert! As usual.
Thanks for that, glad you liked it. 🙂
good advice, even tho I need boots because of multiple previous sprains, I agree that should be the exception, I'm glad to see bulk considered, sometimes I'll take a little more weight over less bulk
I really agree with the clothing and shoes. I really only camp about a night here and there. And never more than a 20 minute walk from my house. Regardless, I usually hike in what I'm wearing. Thanks for the video.
One of your best. Tnx a million.
😀🙏🏻 a big thanks for that!
Like the new format, very easy to watch. Great content. Thankyou
Thanks for that and glad you enjoyed it! 🙂
Thank you. Very helpful. I am still trying to keep my total weight under 35 pounds for 7 days. Be well. Best wishes. Happy Trails!
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I use simple trail runners during the Spring, Summer and Autumn and only in potential bad winter weather, will I wear high end mountain Scarpa boots! This means my expensive boots last 3 to 4 times longer! Excellent advice in this video. Liked and Subscribed
Glad you liked this episode and, much welcome to the channel 👍🏻🙂
Agree with all of it. I just fid the PCT and walked thru a lot of different climates. Good job!
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Tack själv för en trevlig kommentar och att du håller med resonemanget efter en så pass utmanande och lång tur som PCT! 🙏🏻
😂. It is true that some tourism trends are not true. But as often happens, this is because there are no universal solutions for some tasks. You need to stop looking for ideal solutions, and think about your situation and move along the path of evolution of equipment and skills. Specific of your hike, terrain, your budget and the state of your organism ... etc tell your your evolution steps 😊
You’re right, the perfect “one for all…do it all… for all” does not exist! 👍🏻been thinking a little bit about that and how to implement it in future videos… and less do this or don’t do that! 🙂
One of the best reviews on how to enjoy hicking and choosing the best gear. Thank you 🎉🤩👍🏼
A Big thanks for that comment 🙏🏻😀
Depends on where you hike. Up here in the mountains of Colorado you'll choose different gear than hiking down in Florida.
Or if hiking over here in the Swedish mountains… 😄 agree, location and season is two big factors.
Totaly agree!! When it comes to pants I always go for syntetic climbingpants. The are light, easy to move in and the dry extremly quick. They also last very long. You can get a pair under 1000 kr.
Hi 👋🏻, Any good recommendations/specific brands for the climbing pants?
Good points. I've used hiking boots all my life and have been mainly satisfied. The problem for me is that they never dry once they get wet and don't seem to last as long as they once used to. I've faced three shoe bottom breaks in the middle of nowhere. So after just hiking over 50 km in rainy and chilly Jotunheimen in wet boots that were fixed with duct tape, glue and rope, I decided to give my trail runners a change next summer and see if I like them better 😅.
Fun to read about your problems and solutions on the trail now 😄but not to fun I guess when on the trail and having this issues with your boots!! I hope trailrunners will work good for you, I prefer the ones with a wide toe box like Altra but, there are many different types of feet out there so try a bunch before buying.
Trail runners are great for warmer conditions..the idea that they will dry out..but pretty much suck in the winter because there not going to dry..not in Washington anyway..for winter I have had really good luck with Oboz Bridger mid B- dry..they might be clunky and heavy but they keep my feet dry and warm.
@@dalehilliard5535 yes, wintertime is another story completely. Agree.
I agree with many of your points. The bushcraft style pants are my go to, I find they do actually dry as quick as thin fast dry pants if you have any direct sun or wind, vent pretty well (especially the models with built in vent openings) (some thin pants don’t vent almost at all because they are too garbage bag like), and all the pockets tend to be pretty practical for carrying a knife, phone, snacks, etc.
love your content 👍🏻 I also use a small 2 person tent for solo hiking and trail running shoes if I‘m not hiking in an alpine area (then I need the extra support)
Glad to hear ❤️ 😃
You're not wrong about the backpack but: most advice I've seen on packs has been to take as small a pack as possible. I use a two person tent as well but again: that's what I see most channels suggesting. You need to take all advice with a pinch of salt, get out and figure out what works for you. A lot of people ask things like "what size of pack should I get"? To which I always say "what are you intending to do"? With you 100% on not needing expensive gear. Most of my gear was reasonable. I only spend a lot on my winter gear
Funny. I always felt like a beginner. But not anymore. In case anyone is interested. Austria is a phenomenal country for hiking adventures.😊
Thanks. I agree with with everything except the boots and the tent.
Well three out of five ain’t bad 😄👍🏻
:-)
A two person tent is ideal for one person. I always add one more ( make believe ) person for comfort when going solo. Backpackers will start heavy and eventually go lighter as time goes by. The lighter backpack will eventually be wanted for comfort , medical reasons ( doctors orders ) of just enjoying the trail more. At lease that happen to me , went from a large heavy pack and now use one where the whole outfit would fit inside my old pack and still have room left over. Didn't happen overnight , over time from the late 1950's to today
Sorry, I'm happy in my Sea to summit alto tr1 plus tent. Smaller tent is also warmer.
I’m also quite happy in my Middus 1p, but it’s a choice and balance between weight/bulk and space and If I would have picked it when new to hiking… I would have probably hated it!! 😄
Never tried a STS tent… the Alto is a special looking tent, a bit different.
I'm different so it fits 😉
@@samimurtomaki5534 😄👍🏻
Good advice! Cheers from new Dutch subscriber
Thanks and much welcome to the channel 🙂🙏🏻
Great video. Good to bust the "wear boots to prevent ankle sprains" myth - research says you'll prevent ankle sprain but cause a broken leg (I'm paraphrasing) - better and cheaper and lighter to use an ankle brace if you have chronic ankle issues. But of course, if someone likes or prefers boots then wear boots.
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Very good video as always
Thanks 🙏🏻
I think that what you have said is the same for most areas of outdoorsmanship. Companies are always promoting expensive gear and I understand that in certain circumstances, top notch gear is important but especially when you are starting out and you aren't certain if camping, hiking, hammocks, etc are for you, what's the point of spending a fortune just to end up leaving it stuffed into the back of a cupboard because you've decided that it's not what you thought? You can always upgrade your gear later
Agreed I always laugh at the ridiculous gear they try to sell
That was a good video 😁
Thanks 🙏🏻 glad you liked it 🙂
Instead of Rugged Pants, I made pants from Old Rugs....
These are very sturdy and warm, although somewhat dirty.
Hmmm 🤔… 😄 send me a picture!!
I do like 1 person tents and I would not change that
If you like them, why change? Just a positive thing… less weight and smaller footprint. I use one too, and find it to be ok and for longer trips worth the smaller space for a somewhat lighter pack. If doing maybe a one or two nighter locally then it’s nice to have something bigger.
These recommendations is for new hikers mainly, buying their first tent and that are not sure what they need.
I agree with the other points though; pretty much. I'd add that you don't need special clothes, or if you do, look beyond expensive hiking brands which a few technical pieces (jackets, waterproofing maybe) aside are mostly fashion.
It seems the words 'ultralight' or 'hiking' double or triple the price of the SAME gear. This is what my channel is about - I've found better and cheaper advice from hunters, preppers, and trail runners on good gear than many hiking channels, because they aren't wed to Rab or Montane or Gossamer Gear or whoever, and don't have money to burn. ALDI stuff is fine - they even do merino layers now! Decathlon and Trespass are good, usually, Chinese brands are quite often the same as the branded versions that are sold 2-3x more.
My best waterproof goretex jacket is an ex-Navy one, and it's as good as many new current brands, for fraction of the price. Only thing I'd like is maybe a three-way hood cords, but otherwise, it works. And yes, I have the MT100, and the 3ful Lanshan 1 and 2, the Lixada cup like the TOAKS although I'm moving to the Fire Maple XK6 cos well, titanium is a scam - etc. Those are good bargains.
BTW the Granite Gear Crown 2 is as expensive as Osprey in the UK. Impossible to get actually, I can only find the Crown 3 for around £190-250. That's why I setup a UK budget backpacking channel, cos what's cheap in Europe or US is horrendously expensive here.
Good points and recommendations and yeah, we’re you live plays a big part in what you have to pay, unfortunately and US gear here in Europe is many times over priced due to freight and customs… so you run your own channel? And budget oriented ? Will for sure take a look… 🙂👍🏻
@@roberthammenrudh Yes I've just started my channel. Those issues you mention is why I started mine, as there's a lot of space for UK hikers cos we are in a weird position now (Brexit etc, sadly) so it means US or Europe advice for gear only applies to us if there's a UK distributor. If not, we get hammered by massive VAT and import duty. Even then, it is more expensive (pounds for dollars).
So hence REI and Gossamer Gear are out, as is Backcountry (can't even see their site, they ban UK IP addresses entirely) and other US sites and gear mostly.
For instance: Durston X-Mid is a tent I'd like to try, but it's horrendously expensive here, more like £300-350+ vs $250. Pounds for dollars AND import/VAT. So that comes out to more $425 after all that on today's exchange rates.
At those prices, it makes sense to look at more local makes, or Chinese. Sad cos the US gear looks great, love the little bit of MSR gear I have.
@@harduphiker understand and wish you all the luck! Love the UK and have a lot of colleagues over there would love to hike cost to cost sometime in the future!! Beautiful country.
I have been hiking in cheap synthetic dress slacks for years. They are light, they dry quickly, and with a wool base layer, are fine for cooler hikes.
Great and yep… doesn’t have to be expensive to work great! 👍🏻👍🏻
So good to see you not in that flower pot hat ! 😂
😄👍🏻… got myself a new one with channel logo and all! Glad you liked it… or at least don’t miss the bucket hat 😄
I don’t agree with the one person tent theory , I have a southern cross 1 that has plenty of room 👍.
It’s a general recommendation but sure, some exceptions might exist. Normally a lighter 1p made for hiking is more cramped on comparison. Haven’t tried the Southern Cross 1p but it’s much like the Enan and only 85 cm i height and a fairly small vestibule so 🤷🏼♂️ can’t see from my perspective how it could not be cramped. But then again, I’m 180 cm, height makes a big difference.
I've heard a lot of this same advice from other members of the outdoor community so it's not clear who is are the "they" that are lying to us. As for tents, sometimes weight is a more considerable concern and in those cases a 1 person tent is appropriate. It's all about balancing comfort on trail and in camp. Heavier gear might make you more comfortable in camp but it means your pack is heavier while you are hiking. For me with bad feet, I'm going to lean towards lighter gear to take some load off my feet and I'll take the smaller lighter tent. (I'm still not an ultralighter but might consider it in the future.) Others might feel the larger tent is preferable. Everybody has their own needs and preferences.
Sorry have to disagree with a couple of points there, I hiked the UK Coast to Coast using the Dan dursten X-Mid 2 Which is an excellent tent. However, it has a rather large footprint as do most two person tents meaning finding a better pitch is harder I have since also bought the X-Mid 1 as it is truly an excellent backpacking tent.
Point 2, the old adage of 1Lb on your feet is equivalent to 5Lb on your back is incorrect and has been scientifically proven by United States army studies (see gear skeptics you tube video on this very subject). that unless you are doing greater than 4 miles an hour this is incorrect and the differences are virtually immeasurable.
I agree to the first that a 2p has bigger footprint and therefore finding a god spot is more difficult. The X-Mid in particular along with Stratospire due to massive vestibules… mine Revolution 1.5 or the BA Cupper spur on the other hand don’t, but still, choosing a 1p has an advantage absolutely.
To the second I don’t agree, sure the old 1-5 might be debatable but, 1kg on each foot compared to maybe 300 gr is a HUGE difference and also the way you move is completely different so boots drains more energy, for sure, and something I have experienced myself.
One can’t always agree on everything right, what would be the fun in that 🤷🏼♂️😄
I'm 68 and retired I also have and love the Durston X Mid 1 and am trying to switch from my boots to the ever popular trail shoes/ runners but not loving them yet 😊
less is more
You missed heavy cook kits like Jet Boil, and narrow low R value sleeping pads. Good video though.
True true… 👍🏻 and thanks 🙏🏻
The problem with the first one is that comes from privilege. I have a big 80L backpack...because I can't afford a backpack for every type of hike. If you're poor, you have to go for heavier items, whcih means a bigger pack, or something older/second hand or Army - which are all heavier/bigger choices.
One of the biggest lies in the community is that there's this massive abundance of money to be had for gear. Cos most of the videos and media are sponsored by gear companies, so they push more stuff! For most, lighter hiking is an expensive sport, I can't afford a Hilleberg or Dyneema tent, also lots of locational priivlege. Yes you can get a lot of cheap even ultralight gear in the US from US makers. It's not cheap here in the UK. So don't assume everyone else can get those prices/things/access.
I can only agree and the same can be said about any sport or activity that includes some kind of gear, unfortunately it costs a lot of money many times even if the activity itself is free, like hiking.
You need the gear, transport to and from location so yea… can be expensive and cheaper stuff aren’t alway light!
I will make a budget gear episode in the near future… where I will try and focus on gear from Europe and Scandinavia, even if it is a challenge!
@@roberthammenrudh that would be very cool to have a European budget video :-)
Backpacker's nonsense, see them all the time with high end, light weight gear, soaked & freezing, smaller backpacks but with crap strapped to the outside, eating crappy dehydrated food !
This video has nothing to do with Ultra-Light hiking though… at least that was not the idea. If one freezes or is soaked and hungry well… nothing to do with UL, just bad choice of gear for that hike.
I sort of disagree on your tent comment, it's not a bad rule to add 1, but it's not across all manufacturers and tent styles. Pack capacity is another peeve of mine, not all litres are created equally.
True, some 1p are bigger than others so this is just a “general recommendation” and yea, bulk is equally important and some you can really stuff in there and some you have poles and such to take in consideration.
If you have a 1p to recommend… that you could say fit into this category of less bulk and good or at least fair amount of space for you and your gear, please do 🙂 would be great!!
@@roberthammenrudh I'll start by saying that I'm 1.78m, so bigger than a Chinese person, but I'm no Scandanavian. I'm UK based, and have too many tents, some smaller, some larger :D. My go to for long distance solo hiking is my Tarptent Notch Li, I find it spacious enough, not coffin-like, and light. For a couple I have a Tarptent Stratospire 2, and that's worked very well. I also have a Tarpent Aeon Li single skin tent, I used it in the Alps on the TMB in a good mix of weather and it worked well, but I'm just happier in my Notch - I think of it as the tent equivalent of the Victorinox Classic. From what I've seen the Durston tents have pretty good space, but I've not used one. Regarding volume I was referring to packs themselves, as in how one manufacturer's 50L is the same size as another's 35L. It's another one of those internet discussions and comparisons that's meaningless, and a real gotcha for the unwary.
@@AmblingMan you have a great collection of tents, haven’t tried any Tarptent yet but they are on my radar and Notch I nearly bought a year ago… great tent. And yes, pack size… I always evaluate the pack size based on the main compartment and up to the top of the frame. Good to have a bit of extra in the roll top and a good sized front mesh but if the main is to small 🤷🏼♂️ will not work!
My current backpacking tent is technically a one-person tent but I jokingly call it a 1.5! The inside floor is 83 in long by 37 in wide (211cm x 94cm). Plenty of room for my 6'3" height (1.9m for those across the pond) plus some gear. It also has two vestibules 👍
@@jon27d now you made us curious 😀
Don’t trainers or trail runners slip a lot more than boots
Not at all, trailrunners have great grip especially if choosing ones with a vibram sole.
@@roberthammenrudh I’ll have to give them a try I’m a dog walker but I’ve got slippery hills and my boots were a massive improvement to my trainers
@@user-dh4oy1id4i you do, myself I like my Altra Olympus and one of the few Altras with a vibram sole. Good luck, I hope you will like it.
@@user-dh4oy1id4imaybe you need microspikes.
Tjaba.
Vart lite intresserad av dina brallor.
Sökte men hittar inget med det namn du anger i filmen.
montane terra pack pants.
Men på montanes sida finns det en variant som heter: Montane Men's Terra Lite Pants.
Kan de va samma, eller?
Var har du köpt dina?
Hej… 👋🏻 ja till min förvåning fanns dom inte kvar, fick länka i beskrivningen till de du anger dvs Terra Lite Pants. Tror det är en uppdatering och ett namnbyte, inte satt mig in i vad som ändrat.
Jag köpte mina direkt från Montane om jag minns rätt, men finns ju lite varstans.
Tack tack. 👍🏻😎