YOU still bring THESE 5 BACKPACKING? 🙄
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- Our gear is constantly evolving from one solution that works... to another that works equally well but weighs less, and this is not only true for Ultra-Light hikers. To constantly improving your gear will give you a lighter pack in the end with a better hiking experience and with less risk of injuries as a result. Today it’s about 5 pieces of gear I have changed during my time as a hiker that I find to work just as good or better than my old equipment and gear I believe YOU should at least give a thought.
Although... leaving stuff at home that you don’t need and bring less and lighter food and buy yourself a water filter is the ones with the biggest impact on the weight and something everyone can do right away and before your next hike.
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Links to all of the products shown in the video, se links below.
EVA pad (Evazote- EV50)
backpackinglight.se/varumarke...
ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/f...
www.extremtextil.de/en/evazot...
Helinox Chair Zero
helinox.com/products/chair-ze...
LINERS, if you dont want to use Trash-Compacor bags
www.gossamergear.com/products...
Stoves and Pots
sotooutdoors.com/product/wind...
sotooutdoors.com/product/amic...
www.msrgear.com/ie/stoves/can...
evernew-global.com/products/t...
And in the end, a product produced in SWEDEN in high quality that will last a lifetime and are for many the GO-TO stove for the outdoors here in the Nordics, TRANGIA 😃 I will in the near future also try out and review their new UL set, the TRANGIA Micro Light.
trangia.se/
UL CHOICE 👉 trangia.se/shop/trangia-micro...
I use the 3 mm EVA for preventing my Xtherm from sliding around - PLUS - I have cut 3 sections off my Z-Lite to use as A) insulation in my chair B) entrance to my tent when kneeling C) as a sitmat and D) on top of the Xtherm from my waist up in very cold weather. My 2 cents 😜 Thanks for your videoes. Love them 👍
Hi 👋🏻 and happy you like my videos 🙏🏻 sounds like you have a nice set up with good flexibility… always nice not having to put down your knees in the dirt when going in and out of the tent and when packing/unpacking. 👍🏻
Love the chair jab!!! 🤣 I use a titanium pot. Aluminum and aluminum oxide is very unhealthy to cook with especially if you scrub your pot clean exposing the aluminum. Cheers!
It depends on the kind of aluminum. Earlier than the 70's yes. Later, it's safe. And there's also the anodized aluminum that is very good. Titanium is often much heavier than aluminum.
Thanks. Very helpful. Be well. Be safe. Wishing you peace and good fortune. Happy Trails!
🙏🏻 glad you liked it and that I could be of help! 🙂
Chair for me!! I won't leave home without it.
I love it too 😊 especially when hiking with friends!
Alright H, just for balance I'm going to agree with you 100% today.
Also big shout out to ultralight outdoor gear as it is my local store and they're awesome!
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Great video Robert!
A big thanks 🙏🏻😊
Love this video! Eagerly awaiting your next content! - "Success is a continuous journey of self-discovery and growth.."
🙏🏻😊 a much appreciated comment!
Nice! My foldable sleeping pad is in my bug-out kit to be used on its own, but as far as backpacking gear goes, your advice makes a lot of sense.
🙏🏻 happy to hear 🙂 thanks!
Good concise food for thought on some classic gear choices I think about a lot. I am pretty sold on the GSI Java Drip mesh. Hard to get much lighter. I am still on the fence about a chair - welcome your pros and cons.
Iv tried everything for getting the best filter pour over in the wild.. that GSI plus adding a harrio v60 coffee filter is easily the best
Yep, I take the GSI Java Drip and like xtoddx, now add a filter paper - not necessary but the coffee tastes better
I gotta bring my chair dood...my butts so flat and the ground is oh so hard 🥲. Just found your channel and loving the content. Happy trails sir.
Chairs are great 👍🏻 and glad you find my channel and liking the content 🙂
Forget the coffee filter, just take instant. It'll taste just as good, if not better if you DON'T forget the Whiskey. You don't need a whole bottle, just enough to put a shot in your coffee a few times.
Not a big whisky fan, but loves coffee and haven’t found one instant coming close to what “real” coffee tastes like! Haven’t tried them all off course… so appreciate any good recommendation.
Tak for videoen. Den er god 👌
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Phew...I was worried when I saw the photos at the start...no mattress, backpack? I take the Primula Brew Buddy, it's basically the same as one of those coffee filters you have there, just a bit more compact. Also I am testing out those 'windscreen sunshade' type alu mattresses, commonly sold as picnic blankets on Aliexpress...EVA foam though, but with alumininium on both sides, hardcore hikers just use the windscreen ones with a light inflatable or to give a bit of extra R value, but they are a bit small. This way I can either use it as a sort of protection for my tent, or cut it down if it's too big for extra cold protection..
And as I said in my latest video...aluminium is usually the best choice unless you are just boiling water. Totally agree! Found cooking on titanium to be a total nightmare. Beware the wrath of commenters telling you that 'aluminium poisons you!!111' - I had a lot of those. I thought foil hats were also aluminium? ;-)
Interesting you say about Trangia - I looked at Trangia cos I am moving to alcohol stoves for short trips - very heavy! But the lighter stoves like X-boil, Kojin, Speedster (which is what I have) are much lighter than the gas setup, and more importantly for stealth camping: quieter. So it really depends on how long the trip is, and how many people.
Sorry I scared you 😄 …
I use titanium for one use and purpose - wood fire cooking. I bring a titanium Billy pot on colder times because I can use a wood stove or campfire. I make soups and stews mostly of course. With my wood stove I also steam, steam bake and dry bake with it - by using a steaming rack inside.
And titanium chopsticks too because they work as makeshift skewers for grilling meat and anything I want to make dry. Plus the chopsticks I keep them at hand’s reach for self defense against bipedal monsters.
And I use a raincover on my backpacks when cycling. Helps with aerodynamics. That’s about as useful as they’ll ever be 😂
1 - Use your tent footprint under your pad.
2 - Use a liner and a rain poncho
3 - I have a freeze dryer so my coffee is an instant version of regular brew with cream and sugar already the way I like it.
4 - A chair is pointless. Use the tent footprint and the ground pad built into the backpack
Yeah, Hallo!
Awesome mate
I am a big person. I dont trust the Helinox Zero with that. So I opted for the Mica Basin that has a much higher weight allowance. It does was almost a kilo, but I want to comfortable and not crawl around on the ground at camp.
Agree with all of that! I still prefer my alcohol burner setup though, but mainly because I'm a clumsy so-and-so and have a tendency to set fire to my tent with canister-top gas stoves.
😂 not a good thing!!! Smart choosing what you like, and can handle 😄…. No good setting the tent of fire 🔥 almost did it myself one day and scared the hell out of me… I moved the canister while it was on and THATS A BIG NO NO!!’ Big flame as a result… at the time I used a BRS3000T, Windmaster is a lot safer. 😬
I agree with most but the first one... On long backpacking trips 5+ days I do bring a folding foam pad. I broke my tailbone years ago and I do need to sit on something softer at some point. I also love taking quick naps, making it so much easier. Also, it's great to kneel on it while packing your stuff etc... so Yea.. Folding foam pad for longer hikes... Shorter (nope).
Ok, just curious … why wouldn’t a EVA foam pad work for you as a lighter option to the Foldable? Then off course, if one like a piece of gear…one should use it, right 🙂👍🏻
@@roberthammenrudh well, like i said... i broke my tailbone and need more than 3mm to be comfy.... the foldable can give you a wicked thick seat. But i do use a eva on some shorter trip. Not against it, but on longer trip the other one is better for me.
@@paddle_hike ok 🙂👍🏻
My Thermarest was a military one, it was more heavy than the Ridgerest but more compact. Now I have lighter self-inflatables. I found the Z-lite to offer almost no comfort. I do carry the Z-seat however. When taking any sleeping advice, find out if the person sleeps the same way as yo; I am a side sleeper. My coffee maker weighs 11g GSI Java Drip. You could always take instant coffee if that suits your taste.
I’m a side sleeper myself and yeah, absolutely make sure you get the advice from someone sleeping the same way… in this video it was more general recommendations. I use the Nemo Alpine and as a side sleeper I can just say wow 😮 so comfortable, in my opinion.
Instant coffee is not “my cup of tea “ 😄 prefer real coffee. Java drip is a good choice as well actually 👍🏻 used the Soto Helix coffee maker at 52 gr before so saves me like 46 grams, not much but why use something that’s heavier with the same performance 🤷🏼♂️
Java Drip is THE best option, but fragile. I have a hole in mine and will need to do some sewing since glue is not an option!
It's probably been said but...
1. Aluminum is t.great to cook with because of material transfer which has been linked fairly conclusively to dementia and Alzheimer's disease.
2. I don't know if you have access to it, but REI makes a Helinox knockoff (I actually find it more comfortable) for just $99 USD and it also only weighs 1lb. It's a much more cost effective alternative.
If you have, and utilize, a traditional backpack, with pockets and a brain, I would not recommend leaving your rain cover at home. But if you have a single compartment UL-style pack, a liner is preferred.
Yeah. A little bit depending on the fabric but generally yes, you’re right! 👍🏻
Another good post. I use a 3mm Eva pad as it stops my mattress from sliding around as well as a sit mat.
I use a nylofume liner inside my pack.
Coffee - yuk. Hate the stuff. 😊
Cooker - also love Trangia but I prefer a Des Cattys alcohol burner. Aluminium is a health issue for cooking pots.
Chairs - I use a Thermarest chair as it can also be used inside the tent. If I do take a chair I use a Big Agnes UL as it’s far more comfortable for me than the ridiculously low Helinox.
Thanks 🙏🏻 and agree that Helinox is a bit low… my older but heavier (890 gr)chair was higher and a bit more comfortable but… for the 500 grams is just great and much better than sitting on the ground.
Coffee while hiking is overrated. It dehydrates when hydration is needed.
Trangia gear is nice but expensive! I keep it low and limited. I have bags for coffee, like t-bags but refillable. I take a chair because the bike takes the weight; I use the Zedlite, AND alumat, In a bivvy bag with sleeping bad & liner I cut the alumat to shape but left the zed as it goes underneath the bivvy bag inside the tent or hammock. I take a stealthy 1 man tent and optional cargo net camo. I use a trap always - the tent needs a porchway. I use titanium pot sometimes I use steel. On long trips I use the bike trailer and go comfortably. I keep a day bag, where i leave the bike to go hike.
I have an REI FlexLite Air chair, 480g. $100 US.
Claimed seat height=28cm. Measured height=10cm. Short but otherwise comfortable. 4 legs (statically indeterminant=tippy).
I also have a GCI PackSeat, 540g, $25 US. 46cm seat height (measured), 3 legs (statically determinant=strong and not tippy).
I carry the PackSeat much more often. Bonus: It sets up and folds faster. It has a built-in flap for sand and soft ground.
I prefer having some back support so a stool is not for me, great thought it’s better handling soft ground, that’s a big bonus 👍🏻
Personally I disagree with the chair and the CCF pad. After experimenting with thin Eva foam and bringing a chair, I actually prefer to bring a short thick CCF pad, and use that as both mattress protector, R value increaser, and sit pad. Because it has more cushion, I can sit crossed legged, or nap.
But then, I hike solo more often, so I have less social time where a chair may be better to have.
Yeah people tend to be either for or against when it comes to chairs, I love them and have a hard time leaving it at home. 😊
I most use my Thermarest Trekker chair inside my tent when the weather is bad. It makes life so much more comfortable being sat up with a back support especially when cooking and eating or if lounging back, reading. It also insulates nicely.
@@chrishamilton2527 I have to try the tekker sometime. Just a little paranoid about popping my pad. (Just did a quick search, it does look like it can be used with a CCF pad… nice!)
@@tanvach I agree - I carry a piece of Tyvek and a 3mm thinny as a sit pad and to put under my mattress in the tent to stop it sliding around. I also use this beneath my Trekker. 👍
@@tanvachwith CCF . Trekker chair is not optimal. Fiberglass will poke into the ribcage. It is doable for 30minutes.
I bring a Crazy Creek. Use it both as a chair and under the sleeping pad. Dubble use equals half weight, right.
Absolutely 😄 have a friend using a similar solution but he converted to a chair… tried it but didn’t like it and I agree! But if you do and find it comfortable enough then 👍🏻🙂 lighter than a chair, especially if only counting half the weigh 😄
What if chair weights 850g and is reaaally nice? 😁
Mine is not arrived yet. After considering everything and founding last one of its colour on a really good sale, I pulled the trigger on Nemo moonlite. Stronger structure was must as I have broken many regular chairs in the past.
😄🤷🏼♂️… I think you already answered the question yourself 😄 I love bringing one and I hope the Nemo Moonlight will hold up and not brake like the rest 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh Sorry *moonlite, I corrected it to the original comment.
Hate canister stoves. Hard pass on those.
Some do… so what you use instead? 🙂
my 40 y/o Optimus 111b. It has never let me down, especially as a good portion of my outdoor adventures are below 32F.
thx for the great vids, btw@@roberthammenrudh
Almost every time I pack I consider not bringing my chair and every time my L4 and L5 discs dare me not to. The chair I use is a Naturehike Moon Chair, basically a Helinox Chair One clone with an additional horizontal bar and detachable ball feet to prevent it from sinking and breaking. It's a shockingly high quality piece of gear, only costs $50US and if you leave the ball feet and storage bag at home it weighs just a hair under 2lbs.
Same for me, always put it away when packing but ends up bringing it the last second anyways 😄 so nice to have and especially if you have back problems 👍🏻
These dudes that tell you to leave the chair at home are just being plain ridiculous now. Carry what you want and as much as you want or not. So tired of these ganks telling everyone what to do.
It’s a highly appreciated piece of gear yes 🥰
For coffee: Take a phin. Trust me. ;-)
A phin? 🤔 can’t say I understand so please explain! 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh Just type into the YT search bar. A Phin is a vietnamese coffee maker, usually from stainless steel, pretty lightweight, no need for filters or anything else. It works great with medium grain sizes and for all coffee types, not just Vietnamese coffee.
Also they are super cheap at your typical Asian supermarket.
Not to bring a closed-cell foam pad is not always good. Here's why... like most of the time, there's not just one possibility with a piece of gear. And that's the flaw with this video. Let me explain... As said, there are many uses for a closed-cell foam pad.
- as a sleeping pad.
- to improved the R-value of your inflating sleeping pad.
- as a protection for the sleeping pad.
AS A SLEEPING PAD
The closed-cell foam pad is an EXCELLENT option of you don't have the money to buy an inflating sleeping pad, or don't mind less comfort. In fact, some prefers to sleep on hard surfaces. That's YOUR personal choice, and not everyone has the budget for an UL inflating sleeping pad...
TO ADD MORE WARMTH
The closed cell-foam pad is an EXCELLENT option to increase the R-Value (insulation) of your inflating sleeping pad if you're not rich. However, it'll add more weight and more bulk. Here are some data from one of my databases:
- Nemo Tensor Insulated: R-Value 4.2, 595g, manufacturer's price: $173usd
- Nemo Tensor Alpine: R-value 4.8, 690g, manufacturer's price: $210usd
- Nemo Tensor Extreme: R-value 8.4, 630g, manufacturer's price: $259.95usd
- Thermarest Xlite NXT Max: R-value 4.5, 570g, manufacturer's price: $339.95usd
- Thermarest Xtherm NXT Max: R-value 7.3, 680g, manufacturer's price: $379.95usd
- Nemo Switchback: R-value 2.0, 415g, manufacturer's price: $54.95usd
- Thermarest Z-Lite sol: R-value 2.0, 410g, manufacturer's price: $54.95usd
Now, let's take an example:
Tensor Insulated: 595g, R4.2 $173
Z-Lite Sol: 410g, R2.0 $54.95
Total: 1,005g, R6.2, $227.95
So you have almost the same insulation as the Xtherm, and saving $159! The downsides are 325g more, and more bulk.
BUT... if you compare to the brand new Tensor Extreme; You only save $30 and will have to carry 375g more.
So it all depends on if you already have an inflating sleeping pad or not. And what is your budget. If you don't already have a sleeping pad, my suggestion is to go for the brand new Nemo Extreme IF you plan to go camping during cold nights. If not, go for the basic one.
With the Tensor Extreme:
- It'll cost you just $30 more (Than buying the Insulated + Z-Lite)
- You'll have a better insulation (8.4 instead of 6.2)
- Will carry less weight (630g instead of 1,005g)
- Will carry a lot less bulk.
But if you already have an inflating pad and plan to go camping in spring or fall or even winter. Then adding a closed-cell foam pad is a very good option. Unless you have the budget to buy a better insulated inflating pad.
AS A PROTECTION
There, I agree with Robert. A closed-cell foam pad is not the best option IF it's just to protect the inflating sleeping pad. But, the EVA foam pad is not the best option. The best option is a simple ultra lightweight Tyvek sheet. You can probably get a small piece for free from a contractor and it is WAY more puncture resistant than any evo foam pad on the market. Also, adding a layer under the sleeping pad will have the condensation between that layer and the floor of your tent, instead than directly under the sleeping pad!
I personally used a Tyvek, or Mylar sheet under my sleeping pad and I also use one of those floor pad for kids room. they sell for about $4 for four square. They are incredibly resistant (1,000 times more than any evo), and they are very ultra light. I used it as a sit pad summer and winter time. And in winter I have two. One as a sit pad and one under my boots when sitting at camp. I also used a Sharpie pen to draw a checker board on the back!
**** BACKPACK COVER ***
Here I have to disagree. Sorry for that. The reality is that it takes seconds to put the cover and most good backpack have a special pocket under to easily access it and very quickly. It also protects most of your backpack since your body is protecting the rest. As for saying it's too late: Have you seen any rain lasting for a few seconds only? Not me. So what is better, not to protect it at all, or to protect it for 95-99% of the duration of the rain? There's also a VERY good reason for using a rain cover: CONDENSATION. Condensation is not fun/good. So the last thing you want is to have anything wet inside your tent. And leaving the backpack in the vestibule when raining is not an option (it'll get wet from the running water on the ground). THE best is to have both: a backpack cover and an inside liner.
***COOKING GEAR***
I agree, Trangia is not be the best. However, any stove + isobutane is also NOT the best. The best is a Twig stove. Either a DIY one or something like a Bushbuddy. They are lightweight and you don't have to carry any fuel! Simply use twigs, pine cones, leaves, etc... As for the pots, look for the REAL numbers. Aluminum (Anodized or not) can be much lighter than Titanium! Your aluminum pot may be not perfectly round after several usages, but who cares!!!? You've saved tons of money and some weight, so...
PRO TIP: Whatever pot you have, ditch the cover! Instead, take an aluminum plate, put the pot upside down on it then trace a circle around it. Once done, cut it a bit larger than the diameter, place on the pot and bend the sides. You can also use a very small piece of aluminum ductape made for the ventilation ducts as the top handle. Smart, isn't it? ;)
*** CHAIR ***
Helinox's chair is NOT the best, Get a Sportsneer instead. Very lightweight and costs 1/4 of the price of Helinox. Are they durable? I let you be the judge: A friend of mine has one, he weights 275lbs and it never failed on him....
WHAT NOT TO BRING?
- multi-tools
- a large roll of ductape (some length rolled around a balsa is just fine)
- a Rambo knife ( A MORA companion is more than enough, or sometimes a little Swiss Army is OK)
- your mother in law....
😂 nice list down below.
Now, EVA is a closed cell foam pad and will add some R as well, just not as much compared to Z-Lite and similar. And… I addressed it’s multi functional 🤷🏼♂️ and in comparison to tyvek EVA also prevent the pad from sliding around. I prefer and recommend EVA.
The rest is a personal choice and great you give us your opinion and ideas 👍🏻 I have the Sportneer chair, or at least a copy of it with another name but with 2lbs it’s like 80% heavier. For me, that’s a bit to much spending on a chair… if you don’t need it for the durability/weight reasons. The new Zero L could be an option with a 320 lbs max load and at only 1lbs 6oz.
Thanks for your detailed comment and thoughts.//R
@@roberthammenrudh An EVA 1/8 pad costs $22 and offers an almost inexistant R-value of... 0.5. And it won't prevent puctures which is what you need the most! In comparison, a Tyvek sheet is much lighter, will prevent punctures, and also have many uses. As for slippery, that doesn't happen often, and if you want to prevent it anyways, the best is to add a few drop of ShoeGoo glue under the sleeping pad and problem solved! In short:
- EVA 1/8" has almost no R-value
- EVA will not prevent punctures
- EVA is fragile
- Tyvek will prevent punctures
- Tyvek has also multi-uses
- Tyvek is very resistant
- Adding few drops of ShoeGoo glue under the sleeping pad prevents slippery.
- Tyvek + ShoeGoo is way lighter than EVA.