This bad advice could ruin your hike! 😮
Vložit
- čas přidán 6. 01. 2024
- There is a lot of lies and old truths out there and a lot of bad advice are given to new hikers or them seeking new information. Most in good faith of course, but we got to remember the advice given is a total of the experience from one person and based on the area of the hikes done... so not certain its always relevant to the conditions you’re going to hike!
That includes of course also the advice given by me.
PLEASE support this channel by 👉LEAVING A "SUPER THANKS"! 👈
That really helps this channel going forward and will be spent on gear for reviews!
Instagram 👉 / roberthammenrudh
Gearlist 👉 lighterpack.com/r/gsa6y6
BIG 3
atompacks.co.uk/collections/t... (custom)
bonfus.com/product/middus-1p/
cumulus.equipment/eu_en/quilt... (plus 50gr overfill)
www.nemoequipment.com/product...
#hiking #outdoors #backpacking #camping #trail #ultralight #backpack #boots #naturelovers #nature #wild #mountains #backcountry
So happy you addressed the sleeping bag/layering conundrum 4:30. I've done my fair share of winter camping and I've always been warmer while wearing more clothes than less lmao
Great job as always -- thank you!
Sleeping naked might be great in your own bed but in the backcountry? Are you taking a bath before you get to bed in the backcountry? No? Then you are transferring everything on your skin (sweat, oils, bug spray, sunscreen) onto your sleeping equipment.
You’re absolutely right, myself I never sleep naked outdoors… because of the reasons you mentioned, but this was more a “staying warm” kind of debate.
@@roberthammenrudh I need to sleep in nothing or really light layer. I sleep hot and sweat a lot if it's warm, at home I'd sleep with window open in under 0c winter and nothing more than underwear on.
Great video thank you! I don't bring rain gear as such in the summer if I'm not expecting rain but I DO always have an emergency poncho in my pack. Weighs about 2oz 🤷
Thanks, and a wise decision taking at least an emergency poncho in case of unexpected rain 👍🏻
Yes to all. People die every year from surprise weather changes without adequate protective gear.
Bring more than you think you need; pack for the worst weather that has ever happened in a location at that time of year.
Deserts: You still have to pack for wind and cold. An emergency poncho is a convenient and SUL layer that is multi-function. The transparent kind can be used as the "lens" of a super shelter. (So bring a space blanket, too).
We get ~11 inches (~28 cm) of rain a year. Most of it comes from Nov to Mar. I always carry a rain jacket. Most of the year it could be a windbreaker coated with DWR or a Montbell Versatile. For the colder/wetter months I use a more traditional hardshell. Given the way I layer, I think some kind of shell is required. Rain jackets are generally very good wind protection. I usually bring wind pants for warmth, and mostly rely on quick drying pants and just accept I will get wet legs.
Thanks for sharing your experience and how you cope with different conditions 👍🏻
I expecting much sillier bad advice to be honest :)
The ultralight one is actually among the most common. Bigger brick and mortar stores tend to dislike selling ultralight gear because it requires a bit more care and skill; I wouldn't recommend a Durston tent or one like it to a COMPLETE beginner who has never pitched a tent... but I like my Durton; it served me well when I was up in the Enchantments, even camping in the windier uppper Enchantments basin.
But I also did a week long loop hike in the North Cascades with a tarp and bug net, not even a bivy -- also something I would never recommend for a complete newbie, even though it can be quite comfortable if you know what you're doing and you have a warm enough sleep system for example.
Totally agree, some lighter gear like tents require some knowledge of fabric and pitch for it to work the best way and not to get damaged!
@@roberthammenrudh especially onestm that are trekking pole supported. Those can handle pretty gnarly weather when properly pitched, but that does take a bit of practice
I have to explain alot how adding more insulation make you warmer. Plp are so adamant that more insulation clothing makes you colder. But ive never turned down an extra layer in winter. Its like whats warmer 1 pair of gloves or 3?
My worst advise was to get “waterproof” gloves. I did, they were expensive and they were not waterPROOF. I snowshoe backpacked for the 1st time last winter and in the morning it was wet sleet. Luckily I was hiking out that day otherwise my sleet soaked gloves would have been a huge problem. Am getting warm gloves and waterproof liners.
Yeah, waterproof usually just means very water resistant. Things like that are funny, though. Like, I have a pair of "waterproof" boots and I can walk through streams and puddles all day long and they won't leak a drop, but 10 minutes walking through wet grass and they'll soak right through every time.
#7 gets a bit different even outside of 'deserts'. Some climates have such strong seasonality of rain that nobody takes dedicated rain gear in peak season. Much of California is an example even outside of the obvious desert areas. The high mountains can get local effect weather even in the dry summer so zero weather gear is still a bad idea. But I know few people that take actual 'rain gear' in the summer here. (as he waits for the contra comments 🙂)
Thanks for your input 🙂
My best advice is bring an umbrella i love my helionox one with its unbeatable 5 year warranty
I’ve been trying out an umbrella during 2023 but not yet fully convinced. Been too much wind when we had rain so difficult to use. We’ll see, I will continue bringing it on a few more hikes.
@@roberthammenrudh I have found a ton of random uses for them on top of keeping more dry in torrential downpours.
Rain gear:
Here in the coastal mountains of British Columbia. In the summer if I see 0% chance of rain for the week and I'm heading out for one or two nights, I probably won't bring a rain jacket, maybe just a poncho tarp. Otherwise, yes weather can change drastically even if forecasted 20% chance rain you could get unlucky and soaked.
I don't take rain gear unless odds are high I'm going to see a significant amount of rain, but you're right: You really never know.
I had one trip over the fall where the forecast called for about a 50% chance of about an hour's worth of light rain starting about 9pm. What really happened was about 5pm the sky turned black, the wind kicked up, the temperature dropped like a rock and it poured an unholy amount of rain nonstop until after 9am the next morning when the temperature was a good 15 degrees colder than they said it would be.
So I’m from the desert of Arizona. I always carry rain gear. I mean it’s raining today. If it’s not for rain, it helps me keep warm.
So how often does it rain in the deserts where you live and hike? 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh we get about 7 inches per year of rain, but it I drive 3 hours it jumps up to 21 inches of rain and 89 inches of snow. We have all kinds of different climates in Arizona
@@roberthammenrudh also the temperature ranges from -40°F(eastern Arizona) to 127 degrees Fahrenheit (where we live). 🥶🤯🤣
All within 5 hours during different seasons of the year of course
@@markprotzman8480 sounds like being prepared is the right choice then, for whatever weather 👍🏻 including rain gear 😄
I live in the arizona desert, and I always bring rain gear.
Ah ok… so something we all should bring to be prepared no matter what and where! 👍🏻
if the second pair of socks is more than liner sacks they can make your shoes or boots tight and you will not be warmer. people always tell what is the the 'best one' of anything without considering the person or where they live or the season. this doe not work
On #3. Yeah, not bringing all your own necessary gear to sustain yourself. That's not just bad advice. That's deadly advice. What if you get separated from your group. You'd be screwed!
I've actually never understood the thing about sleeping naked or in just your underwear. Especially now that I challenge myself with at least one night out/month and always need to pee😉 in the middle of the night. I have quite a few layers on me.
Same for me, always use a base layer except if it is really hot, then only the shirt… don’t want to get to much sweat and stuff into the bag, a lot easier washing the base layer 🙂
At home though I always sleep naked ☺️
Not too long ago I crawled in my bag wearing the usual pair of heavy wool socks that are always so warm and comfy, but on this particular night my feet just would not warm up, so I took them off and they immediately did. I don't know why that happened. I use them all the time in identical weather, but that night I had to take them off for some reason, so I guess the case could be made that *in the right circumstances* sleeping naked is warmer than sleeping with clothes on.
And this is my problem with so much advice, be it bad or good. It's often given as one size fits all, all the time, for everybody.
Like you say and like I wrote in the description, advice given is based on the summary of experiences so, yes… might not be a solution that fits everyone.
As a base I believe the ones mentioned in my episode are good advice, but with own experience one may notice something else works better for you…. Maybe your socks were a bit damped that evening without you noticing and therefore made your feet cold 🤷🏼♂️ regardless, you solved the problem and kept warm. 👍🏻
Another possibility is that the socks were slightly too tight and were limiting circulation to some degree or another.
@@roberthammenrudh Oh, I wasn't saying you were wrong, just that so much bad advice we hear from people isn't bad because it's always bad, but because it's not given in the context where it's good.
"Sleeping naked is warmer" is just something I was using as an example because it's one you're already familiar with. It's bad advice if that's all there is to it, but it's good advice when it's followed with "if your base layer is damp". All too often this context is left out when people give it, probably because they don't recognize it themselves.
You can have the same problem with advice that's generally regarded as good, but we tend to not have a problem with it because good advice is usually regarded as good because it applies to the circumstances we encounter the most.
@@jeffreycarman2185 That's always a possibility as your feet and ankles will swell after you've been on them all day, but they're loose socks. That's why I like them and I wear them all the time and it's never been a problem before. I don't know why it happened that night, but there had to be a reason. Probably they did pick up some moisture somehow after I put them on.
I agree. I don't like sleeping with clothing no matter what the outside temp is. One time when it was 0 F with my bag rated at 15 and a poly liner (like sleeping in a garbage bag but good for another 10 degrees) I wore socks to warm my feet. Didn't happen till I took off the socks. Go figure. A good pad(s) + good bag = no clothes (better comfort)! That's my take.
As a desert dweller, I always bring rain gear on my excursions. Weather can change rapidly in the desert and bring heavy rains in short order even when the skies were clear only hours ago.
Thanks… seams like most desert hiker do bring rain gear after all! 🙂👍🏻
Thought provoking as always. But I would love you to open the "wear boots because you need ankle support" can of worms 😂
😂… not this time but… maybe a future topic 😄 then I’m sure there will be a lot of opinions in the comments!!
Rain gear can keep you warm in extremely windy conditions .
That is absolutely true, they are a good wind blocker even if I prefer using a dedicated wind jacket for that 👍🏻
I wonder what that word in the background says at 7:30 😂
It’s not “tjenis” or “klenis” that much i can say 😉😂 forgot to blur it!!! 🤷🏼♂️😄
Great video. Can't say I disagree with any of it. Tents in high wind. I can't say I have the mountain wind experience like a lot of people, so I have to rely on people that I can find that are credible, to be able to give that kind of advice. Now, toe spreaders! I've been doing this stuff for over 40 years and believe it or not, this video is the first I have ever heard of such. How would your foot fit in your boot with that? Wouldn't you have to buy your boots with that width measurement?
First of all thanks 🙏🏻 glad you liked it!
When it comes toe-spreaders I use them for my hallux-valgus not to get worse. I have not problems with it now but can get worse if I’m not using them… for boots and shoes this is problematic yes.
When hiking I use shoes with wide toe boxes like Altra Olympus and that works great 👍🏻 I don’t hike in boots but I use boots in my everyday life and need to buy wide ones like EEE width to have room for them.
Don’t know if any hiking boot with these kind of wide toe boxes though 🤷🏼♂️
@@roberthammenrudhInteresting. I'm starting to have some trouble with my feet. I'm going to have to try them. Thanks!!
@@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 I find the ones with a bit “harder” silicone with spacers between all toes (like the ones in the episode) to work the best. I use them all day long and only remove them during the night! Take a bit of getting used to but works. Good luck
@@roberthammenrudh I really appreciate it!!
Plp telling plp a very insulated pad in summer is comfortable. I've seen that argument recently
I have used my Xtherm and my Nemo Alpine also during summer with no problems so a bit of truth to that statement I would say. But, the summers here in Sweden might not be as hot as in other places but up to like 20-25C (day temp) I find it to be ok. The nights then is usually between 15-20C.
@@roberthammenrudh thanks for sharing your experience and quick response
Layered-sleeping: The best sleep in conditions colder than bag/pad's rating is to wear a single thin layer, then lay fleece/puffy over top, but inside sleeping-bag/quilt. This is due to two factors, 1) Compressed layers don't contribute to warmth, 2) Extra air pockets created by clothing laying on top of body (and under bag/quilt) provide much more insulation than worn gear. Wear extremity gear (hat/gloves/socks/booties), but lay core gear over body for maximum warmth and comfort.
I’ve tried it both ways but prefer to have them on, but you’re probably right… stayed warm though when I needed to so the difference might not be that big.
Sometimes I also use the puffy underneath my core for less draft (using a quilt), that is also a great way of using it if you twist and turn a lot while sleeping! Found that to be a good choice when temperature is close to the end of the comfort temp.
Beanie is a must yes 👍🏻
I’ve never seen puffy pants before!!! Wow. I can’t unsee that❤
I love my puffy pants… so warm and nice in the evening when it’s below +5C 🥰
@@roberthammenrudh no doubt. It makes sense
I like a pair of thin socks. As breathable as possible.
Only time Im getting close to a blister is all day rain or poor hygiene.
Got to wash the feet daily.
Can only agree, I use two only for the reason I use toe spreaders these days!
And hygiene is important, in bad weather I wash my feet (and other stuff 😉) inside the tent using a wet wipes. But so much nicer if the weather allows to take a swim!!
Title should be *This (not These) advice. In English the word _advice_ is always a singular noun. There's no plural of advice. There is no "one advice, two advices, three advices" as advice can't be counted, but it can be divided. There can be a piece or a sliver of advice, some advice, several pieces of advice, a lot of advice, most advice, or all of the advice. English is a strange language, and it's not my native language either, so only wanted to help as your fluency and proficiency is amazingly good. Appreciate your videos, even if I don't comment often. Hope you have a great 2024.
Thanks, and I will change the title as suggested 🙂👍🏻 appreciate the help and glad also you like my content 🙏🏻 always nice to hear!
@@roberthammenrudh I am curious, are Swedes ever taught about the New Sweden colony on the North American continent on the east coast of what would later become the United States?
@@Eidolon1andOnly well yes, and no … we know a lot of swedes emigrated to America late 1800 and a lot of Swedes settled in places like Minnesota and a lot of these places exist even today who celebrate midsummers eve and kept a lot of the Swedish traditions.
@@roberthammenrudh There's a vid "Old Maine Swedish Farms" with Americans who still speak Swedish to this day. I wonder how well it would be for a native Swedish person to understand them or how their accent might sound to a Swede. I'm of Polish descent and the closest I come to speaking anything close to Swedish are English and Dutch.
@@Eidolon1andOnly thanks for the info, and yep… probably a “strange” accent but would be interesting to hear and visit some day!! Poland is nice, good food and nice/polite and professional people is my experience!